The French Army Canteen Cup Stove.

In this video I show the French Army canteen cup stove and the new French army pouch I had to get to carry my updated set.
The answer to will this stove fit a US GI canteen cup is yes! But it may not work with all pouches.

[@templetonlee1722]

Just for info, regarding French canteen cover : P = you can take it to the cleaners. The little square with the circle = it can go into the washing machine, not more thant 40 degrees . You can iron it but no drying machine.

[@brodequin8261]

If your brewing tea use the tea bag afterwards to remove the residue, it cleans it off pretty good.

[@sandyadams5504]

Thank you for the video. I just bought a box of them at a yard sale. I didn't know how to use them.

[@larrykramer6057]

Thanks, John, for showing this as I saw this stove on ebay but they didn't show how it worked. Now I know.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

No problem Larry. Thanks for watching my video!

[@eleveneleven572]

The whole French Army canteen and cookset is marvellous. I've had two mess kits for a while and one alu bottle and cover. but only yesterday bought an entire bottle, cup, burner plus cover from my local surplus here in Brittany...as cheap as chips ! 😁

[@simonweber415]

good morning and thank you very much for this video

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

I enjoyed your video. You are the Hiram Cook of mess kits :-) I loved the bug noises in the background it's very relaxing.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

I don't know about being that smart about mess kits but I sure enjoy playing around with them! Thanks for watching and for your comment.

[@tracker5849]

What ever happened to Hiram Cook?

[@jelkel25]

These were on UK Ebay a short while ago but listed as Belgian and being sold with the Belgian canteen cup. I have two Belgian canteen cups and they're not so great, very thick aluminium, hold a small volume, heavy for what they are and no canteens nest in them, not even the smaller Dutch ones so I didn't want another one of them taking up space. Shame, the stove stands an interesting design and the French kit is very usable. Thanks for the vid!

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

The Belgian cup I have is smaller than the French one but they look like the same design and maybe the same company made both. I wonder if the Belgian stove version is also smaller to fit their cup?

[@jelkel25]

In the UK sellers mix up French, Belgian and Dutch items so I don't know if there really is a Belgian version of this stove. As far as I know Belgian kit is marked A.B.L. with a date but French kit is marked with the makers name and sometimes a date (like your stove).

[@siatbury58]

For what it is worth Tournus is in Burgundy in eastern France, so the stove is definitely French, even if UK surplus stores marry them up with Belgian canteen cups. Someone told me later French canteen cups were smaller in capacity (around 600cl and possibly identical to Belgian ones...) Complicated isn't it?

[@colintaylor4847]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222779475671 This one fits my Begian canteen cup

[@colintaylor4847]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182632663435

[@leighrate]

Patch is to write your name & number on. Label inside is wash and care instructions.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thank you for the information! Also, thanks for watching!

[@100mmtubeofjustice7]

thanks for uploading this vid. i'd heard about this but never saw one, I have always liked the French canteen, I still think dave Canterbury "borrowed" the idea of it for his kit.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

I'm glad you enjoyed my video. The French kit is even better with this stove.

[@RoadKill4Two]

Very cool, thank you for sharing

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thank you for watching!

[@UrbanGrrl69]

I have this exact canteen. I need to get that stove! Great review John.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Urban Grrl cool! I trust you saw my first French Army canteen video from the first reply I sent you. In that video I mention that you can put the canteen in the fire if you remove the cap. That is done easy if you spread the chain link where it attaches to the canteen and remove it. Also, you should know that your set is not WW2 but post war. Thanks very much for your comment and for watching my videos!

[@UrbanGrrl69]

@@John-Sherwood-W4JFS much appreciated thanks John.

[@tracker5849]

Saw one of those today..thought about buying..

[@casqueadrian]

There is late models with plastic bottle (polyethylen ) and stainless cup ( both leaves no taste). Patch is for written your name and inner is the manufacturer name + town and washing instructions. Curved shape is for spoon+forks ( knife : Tatoo /Baroudeur or last CAC knife is on belt ). My favorite canteen kit !

[@casqueadrian]

@@francisfuchs6943 hehe

[@casqueadrian]

@@francisfuchs6943 oui ça marche mais il faut que le bocal ne remonte pas trop haut pour ventiler la flamme

[@Scoutforlife]

Nice one John. I like those. Bit different..nice vid.thanks for sharing.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thank you for watching and for your comment Scout!

[@alexlammk]

I bought the stove half a year ago from Ebay. To my surprise, I bought one and the seller sent me ten pieces. I gave some to few of my friends. I find it can fit most of my canteen system on hand. I have a reproduction of French canteen system bought locally,which use Rothco canteen cup . The stove fit and the cover's snap can close with a little bit of force. My Keith Ti canteen system(may be same as HC canteen system) is also fit. However, Pathfinder canteen system do not fit for the base of the cup is larger than the stove.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

That's a nice surprise. Nine extra ones. I'm happy to finally have my own! (thanks to George). Thanks for the information on cups it fits and don't fit.

[@redstickrant]

John: I've seen these type of stoves before, through when I tried to find one (a real French one), they didn't seem to be available anymore. So, good score and a great review! I settled for a stainless steel copy I found on eBay that's made in China (isn't everything anymore?). The quality is alright, I guess. The arms for the pot legs poked out of the sides of the base 1/8 when folded. Ground those down, as I didn't want them poking holes in my canteen cover. They are nice but VERY susceptible to wind. On a calm day, they heat / boil about as fast as an Esbit Pocket Stove (mine's so old, it says "Made in W. Germany"). But I mean REAL calm. It can hold four Esbit fuel tabs in between the folded lags and the base. Overall, I'm still going with my Esbit. Had it for 30 years, stores five fuel tabs inside, darn near bombproof, and less susceptible to wind.Again, excellent review, as always. God's Peace, my friend.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Many people have told me about the Chinese knock off. I am with you on the Esbit stove. I have a couple and that is what I prefer when burning fuels tablets. If its windy out, I bring along my folding windshield to help. I will probably not use this French stove very many times. I have it mostly for my collection. I was very lucky to have one sent to me. Thanks for watching another video and for your comment!

[@pyromaniac1491]

Cool stove. I love my canteen setups also. My heavy cover sets my favorite but the Originan USGI cups my go to setup. I no longer carry my pathfinder set.

[@matthewprior3762]

These things are awesome if there isnt any wind. Esbit tabs burn on average 11 minutes for me. Once again Sir, i aspire to be like you one day... A cool 😎 older gentleman that has great tastes and goes outside and does things.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thanks! I hope to be out in the woods for a very long time!

[@001desertrat3]

Rub a bar of Soap on the bottom of your Canteen Cup BEFORE you put it over the Esbit fuel . The soot & tar from combustion of the Esbit tablet adheres to the Soap which easily washes off .

[@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234]

Interesting stove, thanks.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Quinn The Eskimo thanks for watching my video!

[@daljiba]

nice/good French innovative idea

[@jhorojhoro3412]

Ahoj John, tenhle francouzský vařič používám, ale musíš si vyrobit lihový vařič z plechovky od 3dcl limonády. Velikost musí být taková, aby se vařič vešel pod držák ešusu. Výhoda vařiče z plechovky je v tom, že se může ešus postavit přímo na vařič. Trangia musí mít určitou mezeru mezi ešusem, aby mohl hořet.

[@baron8107]

There's an Amazon seller called "G.A.K." that sells copies of these with a steel USGI-pattern canteen.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

I'll check it out. Thanks for the info!

[@doughroasterbushcraftandsu3947]

I bought one from a local surplus store back in 98 it’s still a regular in my haversack for boiling water in my crusader mug

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Doughroaster Bushcraft And Survival thanks for sharing about your stove and thank you for watching my video!

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

That's awesome. I recently got a Crusader mug and a Osprey bottle, cup and pouch. I think I will use that when i'm using solid fuel with the Crusader. Thanks for watching and for your comment!

[@Thereal111t]

Neat setup!

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thanks!

[@kxd2591]

Try a mesh nylon filter. The REI with the plastic legs works great and is fast. But it takes two Tsps. of coffee to make one cup. The coffee is ready as soon as the coffee filters through. However, if you cut the legs off, use one Tbs. and then submerge the filter into the hot water (or place the filter with coffee into the cup, then pour the 194F water over the coffee) you save some coffee. But you need to wait 3-5 minutes for the coffee to brew. GSI sells a nylon filter w/o legs.

[@scoutsniper485]

Usgi cup does fit. But butterfly handles fit inside stove

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

That is what I found too after I got home last night. Thanks for your info!

[@scoutsniper485]

John Sherwood i gotta fine me an original stove. They sell stainless or aluminum ones on ebay by GAK. Out of california. I have couple of those and they are solid and made well.

[@martinadejaquiz2482]

john, dearie maybe if you ever have time honey you could make a video of this stove and how it fits the usgi canteen kit please if you have time dear? thx

[@martinadejaquiz2482]

well, i forgot i check into this about 6 months ago and i forgot what i learned. guess no need to do a video on it because here's a link where i found the info maybe 6 months ago, but thank you my friend, kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHPJiGaNpdysjck there's an ebay link there in the comments section with pics

[@martinadejaquiz2482]

i saw that stove on ebay before. i wish it did fit the trangia. shame it doesn't. that collapsible orange pour thru coffee basket i may have to buy one. collapsing does look better than the way i do it with a hard plastic 4 cup coffee maker basket (packs better / smaller). that's right no clean-up with the filter / easier / less water / better coffee. same coffee quality as at home and i do care about that. instant ain't coffee to me - never will be either. sorry don't wanna beat a dead horse. good outing john - thumbed it up & enjoyed it!

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thanks for watching another one! The coffee drip is very nice to have. Just make sure if you buy one that it has two drain holes in the bottom and not four. I hear that the one with four holes drains too fast and makes weaker coffee. Mine is made by UST which may have a parent company with another name. I bought it on ebay. Have a great day!

[@Thereal111t]

Martina Dejaquiz you might be able to make a Stove similar to the Crusader Stove mod by coiling up some fiberglass rope in an appropriately sized tin. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp2XoIuIrNVoq80

[@m1cajah]

I have that same collapsible filter holder. My coffee always ends up with a slight rubbery or plasticky taste and smell. But, still better than any instant.

[@martinadejaquiz2482]

TheReal111t: i like the crusader and the MK2 also. i like the bigger 1L pot of the MK2. i watched your video thanks - thumbed it up! a couple of years ago i almost bought the Crusader. i like the rope and alcohol. i don't like Esbit tablets. most of the time i build a wood fire, but sometimes use alcohol. i have 5 USGI canteen cook kits. some with canteen shop HD stoves (i don't like them that much for alcohol). some with pathfinder lids and i have 1 with a HeavyCover lid. 2 of them have the original open-top / open-bottom usgi stoves. i have some of the usgi aluminum esbit type stoves, too. i modified one of the usgi aluminum esbit type stoves inorder to do this... leave in truck as bugout to use small skillet on and to use canteen cup on. i have never seen anybody else ever do what i did and my work looks like it came from the factory that way. the trangia is used in it and the trangia is 100% fully adjustable inside of it effortlessly and conveniently. i wanted it to nest small and be able to support a small skillet. on trail i want to do skillet cooking on trail - not just boil water and it does that perfectly. i don't know how to do video or pictures of it. so, i can't show you what i did in the modification. i wish i could, but i can't. in the US. the USGI kits are so inexpensive. on ebay i noticed the crusader kit was quite expensive. my modification adds no extra parts / no moving or adjustable parts / nothing to lose / nothing to assemble. it costs no money to do it either and with my modification the entire nested unit packs down much smaller than the crusader because it is the exact same over-all nested size of the original USGI canteen kit. i pack-out a small 8" skillet and a small cookie spatula. i want bacon and eggs in a skillet on the trail and boiling too with alcohol as the fuel. my mod works perfectly and i have never seen any videos of anybody ever doing anything similar. sorry to talk so long.

[@martinadejaquiz2482]

john, you don't have a rubbery or plastic taste or smell with yours that has the 2 holes?

[@olivergaudette3290]

Amazon sells an almost identical stove under the GAK brand.It has 4 bumps on the bottom,round holes instaed of slots and is not stamped in French.It comes in aluminum or stainless steel.Inexpensive.Fits in my issue French pouch well.It's not French bu looks and works well.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Thank you for the information! And thanks for watching my video!

[@simonh6371]

I use a Trangia type aluminium pot grip with all my canteen cups/mess tins and camping cooksets, saves having to put gloves on or risk burning your hand. Also good for manouevring my simmer ring on or off the burner. I don't have a Trangia cookset though, just the burner and pot grip bought separately

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Simon H that’s a nice tip! Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching my video!

[@larrykramer6057]

I have ordered a French "Vintage" cook set that has a handle in the smaller top pot that looks like you put a small tree into it as a handle. I can hardly wait to get it because we can be sure that the French will always do something odd.

[@JohnDoe-ee6qs]

Larry Kramer the French mess tins are very well thought out, three parts rather than the British two part, you get two mess tins large and small and a shallow one which you can use to eat off or to fry stuff on. Good stuff

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Nice! When you get it, see if there are any markings it. I'm curious if they are dated.

[@JohnDoe-ee6qs]

John Sherwood only the large mess tin has any kind of markings on it, mine has "JAPY 1953" on it

[@barryhopesgthope686]

The white patch is for the Milspec information.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Barry Hope SGT Hope Thank you very much for the information and for watching my video!

[@geraldross5180]

You do know how to ruin a cup of coffee. LOL Still like your show.

[@matthewprior3762]

LIFE HACK: you can blow out Esbit tabs and reuse them later..

[@JohnDoe-ee6qs]

Matthew Prior yes you can.

[@BingWatcher]

Nice video John. Too bad they are hard to find as I think it's worth noting that this strategy works and is a great way to add more options for the USGI kits. There is a Chinese knockoff of this on Amazon for about $10, in case anyone else is interested. I was wondering if you could share the name of the collapsing coffee ☕ brewer? Thanks ✌✌👍

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

The coffee drip I bought was labeled as UST (Ultimate Survival Technologies) but probably has a different parent company name. I purchased it off eBay.

[@johnpittman3489]

Never. New that thanks.

[@cardiacbob]

Those symbols are laundry instructions. You can iron it and machine wash it and dry clean it, but don't throw it in the dryer. I was in the US Military 22 years between the US Army and the US Marine Corps, and I can tell you I never ironed or dry cleaned my canteen covers, lol! The French are weird.

[@1Splat]

John, do you know if that bottom stove part will fit a US canteen cup? Thank you.

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

I'll stick with the good old American canteen cup stove. You aren't restricted to just the Esbit cubes. Nice video anyway !

[@stinkyfinn6977]

im glad you finally got yourself one of the French stoves, will it fit your Belgium set too? I've the French canteen and haven't been too impressed with it as it leaks (hopefully fixed now) the pouchs are pretty great I've used a set of green 4 stud ones for at least 2years now with the Dutch canteen and cup and found the extra space in them is so useful, all the bestl

[@tomw9659]

Stinky Finn I found (in my own experience with the stove) that it will fit on the bottom on the Belgian set with the mug handles tucked inside it however it only fits on one way. I also found that it does just about fit in the standard jigsaw camo pouch but it doesn’t come out as easily as you would expect. As well as this, it makes the plastic parts on the end of the straps holding the flap part on the canteen shut rest at an awkward angle. So inshore yes but not very well

[@nikkogutierrez5393]

The canteen and cup look like the US army one as well.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

They are very similar. The French set is all aluminum and the canteen is a little larger.

[@Bretoncap]

Surely those marks are the washing and drying instructions.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Probably is. That's what I was thinking it could be when I made the video. But one thing I have learned on here, if you turn out to be wrong, 30 people will comment and correct you! Thanks for watching and for your comment!

[@OKBushcraft]

Are the white patches light reactive? Do they glow in the dark? Interesting items.

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

They don't seem to be. I'm sure someone who was enlisted in this military will comment and tell us. Thanks for watching another video of mine!

[@Lord_RavnFar_Tannerwise]

An easier way to make coffee is to use folgers coffee bags, they're just like tea bags but coffee!

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

I tried those a few times and they are convenient.

[@dubb8510]

John Sherwood they make throw away pour over coffee filters that attach right to your mug you can get a pack of 100 for less than 20$ on Amazon I believe

[@gilleslanstroffer3518]

Cup french strong... In the time see you later maybe..

[@MrFullautoak47]

Me n Bear got two of em...

[@JohnDoe-ee6qs]

it's in great condition compared to the one I've got

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

Yeah. I think mine was unissued. Does the Esbit eat the stove up pretty bad?

[@JohnDoe-ee6qs]

John Sherwood don't really know I only got it last week, but those esbit tablets really do mess up my crusader Mark 1 stove

[@MikeCarr-qo6rj]

Say chowder Frenchy

[@gilleslanstroffer3518]

But there is a probleme with the cup... Find it.....

[@John-Sherwood-W4JFS]

gilles lanstroffer I don’t see anything wrong with the canteen cup. It works perfectly.

[@siatbury58]

MMT are still going strong; here is a link (www.tournus.com/en/lentreprise/depuis-1910/) MMT and Bourgeat (your French canteen) have made civilian and army kit for years( at least since the 19th century for military kit.. I casn send you a neat article and photos on a French collector's site of MMT and Bourgeat and other makers stamps.

[@nikonman3971]

Water filter