The Dutch Government Collapses: What Happens Next?

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After 13 years as the Dutch PM, Mark Rutte announced he is stepping down as VVD leader following the collapse of another coalition. So in this video, we'll explain what's happened, why the government collapsed (again) and what might happen next.
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[@poltergijstt]

Being Dutch I feel like you've explained it really well. It can be hard to keep track and understand the politics of a country you're not living in, so videos like these about any country are more than welcome. I really hope we will get a different coalition. Our parties have the habit of saying they're not willing to work with certain other parties even before the election results are in, this causes big groups of voters to be ignored. It's a problem I hope we will get rid of

[@ivvvvvvi]

Being unwilling to work with 'certain other parties' is the last thing to consider an issue in Dutch politics. The only parties that are excluded are far-right nutjobs that are clearly incapable of governing anyway - they've shown that much during Rutte I, and the results of a coalition with the far-right in every other country are similar (just look at Finland). It's not like the PVV is even remotely interested in governing at this point - they know fully well that they can't govern.

[@martijnkoning3354]

No, the last coalitions show why you shouldnt work with some parties. A coalition that is too different ends up making no decisions

[@merenwen4495]

If you’re talking about ignoring parties like PVV and FVD, I really hope they keep doing that for a long time to come.

[@Arjonko]

@@merenwen4495 who are they? VVD will collapse now that Rutte has fled the scene.

[@risingphoenix02]

@@Arjonko Extreme rightwing conservative parties. They are mostly known for their hatred towards immigrants especially Muslims. One of the scary things is how ever that with BBB if they become the largest party will probably make a government with them. But now we will just have to see if they get a big enough part of the vote or not to be able to make such a extreme right wing coalition.

[@GorgeDawes]

To be honest, I’ve had the distinct impression that Rutte couldn’t really be arsed any more since the last election. This feels like a convenient way out for him.

[@j.t.6741]

Same impression here. The fact they are going to present a successor this week gives me the feeling they had a candidate ready for a while now

[@leandervr]

He wanted that record of longest sitting PM and it feels like that was literally the only reason he was still participating in the last election.

[@bzuidgeest]

@@j.t.6741 They don't have a great candidate ready. Rutte just realized he was dragging a dead horse and quit while at the same time positioning his party for the election. Something any good strategist would do.

[@MLWitteman]

Some people actually speculate that D66 forced him to step down. The leader of D66, and deputy prime minister, Sigrid Kaag called Rutte on the phone. Telling him that members of her party, and perhaps the entire fraction, would support a vote of no-confidence. This would have forced Rutte immediately out of office. But the way he played it, let’s him stay in office as a caretaker prime minister until well into 2024.

[@danielmantione]

Getting the next budget through parliament would have been next to impossible without a majority in the 1st Chamber. This would have required major consessions to BBB (biggest party there), but those necessary consessions would be unacceptable to D66. A government without budget cannot spend money on new policies, which is sort of an issue... So if the government would not have collapsed now, it would likely have collapsed within a few months.

[@RealLooktea]

Its always strange when a long time leader like Rutte steps down. Reminds me of when Merkel announced she’d be going, a long time centre right leader, stepping down after waves of controversies around immigration while the countries main right wing opposition begins to surge electorally

[@ShivamGupta-sr9zf]

Yup, mass migration can be a coalition destroyer.

[@vanCaldenborgh]

Comparing a political light-weight without any vison like Rutte with Merkel is almost blasphemous ;)

[@tonicornelissen5429]

Don't call Rutte a leader. He doesn't like that. It sounded like a person who was in charge of Germany in the second quarter of the previous century. In one aspect I hope Rutte resembles Hitler: Germany recovered after 13 years being ruled by Hitler.

[@RealLooktea]

@@vanCaldenborgh Rutte was no light weight, the dutch political system is infamously hard to navigate and stay a float in, Rutte was a hard hitter all things considered

[@utilitymonster8267]

The right winged opposition doesn’t surge really. It just switched to a different party. If anything, it’s a shrink, since the voters went to an almost openly racist party with conspiracy theories to a general populist, but relatively sober party.

[@oliviertilanus]

I was interested in this video, because it was for me a test to see if TLDR their news was reliable. And it is. The information given is the same information you'll see in the dutch papers I read this morning. They truly do give a shortened, but reliable overview of the current news. Now that I know that their reporting on my country is reliable, I'll be more comfortable seeing what they say about other foreign topics.

[@Luredreier]

They're usually not far of here in the Nordic region either although there's definitely nuances lost. I think that you can trust them, at least for European news.

[@ericconnor8419]

It means they get their news from the Dutch media, so it guess how reliable reporting is will depend on how good the local journalists are. It will either be that or Wikipedia they have no journalists on the ground.

[@djan71]

Well maybe there are other countries they'd be more biased about, I don't know

[@TheOrangeGambit]

Generally outside of the US, I find their stuff to be very reliable. I don't like their US coverage though (too many inaccurate things) so I stick to their non-US news.

[@lucasrem]

The anti Covid lobby was the trigger here, Dutch newspapers are never objective. Papers only feed their own community, that can never can be any objective, readers stop the service or stop buying them in newsstands.

[@mistrants2745]

And now the real reason: Rutte intentionally dropped the entire thing. There was NO reason to collapse over this and its no mystery that it came as a complete blindside for almost all parties involved.

[@theuglykwan]

Rutte is the longest serving PM in EU after Merkel retired. He's been PM since 2010. In that time we had 5 prime ministers in the UK.

[@Kalimdor199Menegroth]

Rutte is the longest serving together with Victor Orban from Hungary, who also took over in 2010.

[@RunawayTrain2502]

And none of them have outclassed that lettuce yet...

[@miguelmota5980]

Well yeah... but it's the UK. You go through PM's like you go through meals.

[@dex6316]

@@miguelmota5980I mean they had elected a lettuce to prime minister once. Crazy stuff those Brits can get up to.

[@theuglykwan]

@@miguelmota5980 Between 1979 to 2007 we went thru 3. It's just since 2016.

[@hungrymusicwolf]

While yes Mark Rutte claimed to have left over immigration, as many politicians in the Netherlands have pointed out there were both plenty of options available (eg. restricting economic migrants of which there were multiple times as many) and much larger previous problems the last year / few years that they were happy to ignore. Chances are immigration is just an excuse and this was a political move of some sort. What exactly his plans are only time will tell.

[@ddanenel]

i’m seeing people say that right now would be the best time for an election for the VVD, and rutte in particular, since other parties (particularly BBB) don’t really have their affairs in order yet, and the VVD doesn’t have a successor to rutte lined up yet. if that was the plan it seems to have backfired massively though

[@MChagall]

The economic immigrants benefit the economy because they fill up labour shortages. They are also housed usually by the agencies that hire them as a lot is seasonal work.

[@hungrymusicwolf]

@@MChagall Sounds great and all, but the economic damage of letting the cabinet fall is easily 10 times greater than any good the 5000 economic immigrants they'd have to deny (that's one number mentioned for the amount of people they expected to be affected by the issue they let the cabinet fall over). So quite frankly, that makes zero logical sense to do.

[@mike140298]

Exactly, I believe this coalition was doomed to fall this year. However, the reason it fell now instead of September is because Rutte (or the VVD) wanted it to.

[@hungrymusicwolf]

@@ddanenel Yeah, some opposition parties mentioned that. Though Rutte essentially proved them wrong by stating that he will not be up for election again, I believe even on the same day though I am not quite sure anymore. Anyways, not long after.

[@supernenechi]

I hope we're not going to make this a regular thing, that anytime we have a difficult issue, the government collapses over it. It is quite inconvenient though, since it's very difficult/impossible to make big decisions with a collapsed government and there are lots of things that require attention at this moment.

[@tubecraft5343]

Nene!

[@purest_evil]

Some of those things could've been lessened if your government didn't take fly-brained migrants and carefully screened them instead

[@moeite7756]

Based and Nenepilled

[@frank551]

dutch government colapsing happens all the time this is nothing new or something to be afraid of.

[@arneloo4976]

He did it on purpose

[@cyrilio]

Great reporting guys.

[@jeannetitor]

he's called teflon mark because non of the scandals during his reign all these years stick to him.

[@Kholdstare1987]

Mark Rutte is the pinnacle of either you die a hero or you live long enough to become villain. He was an improvement compared to Balkenende, but with every election it became worse and worse. Finally we can have a breath of fresh air again, for good or for bad. We will probably get some really bad governments first before we can finally get a good one.

[@Milo19970]

What he did during covid can't be forgiven! I know numerous business owners that went bankrupt because of his stupid restrictions.

[@julianhill5360]

@@Milo19970 They were not stupid.

[@nonegone7170]

@@julianhill5360 Taking measures during covid wasn't stupid indeed. The measures they decided to implement however, were wholly and completely stupid.

[@RoderikvanReekum]

Balkenende was fine and he was right we do need more VOC mentality! It is a bit before my time but Balkenende had less scandals than Rutte. Balkenende was very stable though not that charismatic but that is not so important for good political policies.

[@nonegone7170]

@@RoderikvanReekum VOC mentality in the sense of the rich putting the poor to work in squalid conditions, to enrich themselves? Wait, isn't that exactly what we've been doing the past 13 years...

[@anoniemegamer]

Mark Rutte has been the only prime minister I've known

[@purplehaze8557]

and a bad one at that...

[@Yawnymcsnore]

Poor thing

[@greyghost2492]

Log off and finish your homework, kid

[@BarringtonDrive]

His predecessors weren't better. None of them really were. Politicians are ideally changed as often as diapers - and for the same reason.

[@sten6216]

@@mangonel No he wasn't a good one, he single handedly destroyed the care system in the netherlands, also it's rampend censuration, al lot of scandals, and alot of more poverty, while the rich where getting richer...

[@pietsnotty8283]

The 2 status system has already been tried in the Netherlands and was abolished in 1992. In other countries, such as Germany this system leads to loads of bureaucracy

[@Tinky1rs]

Yes, to add context for other readers: The two status system led to many of those falling in catagory B to sue the government, regularly with success. This led to enormous waiting times and a bogged down judiciary system. These issues are now at play in Germany, and is one of the reasons D66 at least was sceptical on reversing back to it.

[@GundamReviver]

Honestly I'm surprised they haven't implemented a post-nl style two stream system: fast and slow. Fast: you have all your paperwork in order and we don't have to find all kinds of shit out? Step in line. Slow: send us the data first via poat/mail/WhatsApp, whatever. Don't even bother showing up otherwise, of you do we will not house you, go away.

[@sebe2255]

@@GundamReviverThat would require balls and vision

[@alexderpyracc4053]

Yet it still exists unofficially

[@DenDave_]

A key note about the BBB (farmers party) is that a vast number of the votes they received in the provincial elections were in essence a 'protest-vote', a vote for the BBB was also seen as a vote against Mark Rutte, so they earned their victory then as a populist party. While they will remain one of the larger players in the general elections, it is unlikely they will replicate that landslide victory.

[@the11382]

BBB will likely replace CDA over time.

[@kevinwong7254]

Yes, I was waiting for this. Thanks for the video! And good explanation

[@longbow857]

Cannot blame them for explaining it the way the VVD wan't it to be explained, but everybody can see that Immigration was an excuse from the VVD to make the coalition collapse.

[@v0lky1]

You guys are incredibly well informed on our politics. Great job.

[@Heshhion]

Dutch PM, Mark Rutte resigning over immigration was a clever move. Even if you don't like his policies, he out played everyone.

[@123ricardo210]

How does that work, he's no longer going to be the prime minister which is what he wanted.

[@MrJimheeren]

No it’s very cynical and not proper at all. The only reason he didn’t get a motion of discontent stuck on his arse is because he resigned. There is no crisis in our immigration system right now, the numbers are lower then last year and he collapsed a government over it

[@jodawgsup]

@@123ricardo210 Because the opposition was going to issue a vote of no confidence, or a motion of no confidence. That would've meant Rutte would've been essentially unable to perform his duties as prime minister, leading to him being essentially fired. Now, his coalition is "demissionair" (a demissionary cabinet) which means he will be able to essentially fulfill his position as prime minister for another ~1.5 years, due to the motion being retracted after Rutte announcing his retirement, instead of halting immediately after the vote of no confidence. On top of that, he further lays out a foundation for the VVD to be the future ruling party with a more right leaning coalition. Edit: this latter part is relevant because according to recent polling, the VVD is still one of the biggest parties out there

[@mboer4]

@@jodawgsup that's not how it works, in three months we have new elections lol

[@ddanenel]

@@mboer4true but chances are he’ll be accidentally correct on that timeframe since forming a coalition will probably be even more difficult than last time

[@buurmeisje]

As a Dutch person, I think this is great.

[@BossBasher]

Why that

[@buurmeisje]

@@BossBasher Because Rutte has been a terrible prime minister and I'm happy to see him go. He privitised all kids of stuff, which expectedly made them a lot worse, ruined our universities, so bad that he changed back all the reforms he had made to education like a year ago, scammed innocent parents for money for years, acusing them of tax fraud, when they hadn't done anything. I mean really, he has been a disaster.

[@klompb]

​@buurmeisje don't forget destroying citizens' faith in our political system with his Rutte Doctrine.

[@user-wj5gj9ld8b]

As a fellow Dutch man I agree 💯👍

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

As a fellow Dutch I do support his foreign policy but his domestic policy is terrible like he does a better job doing that has nothing to do with the Netherlands

[@KhaalixD]

Great video!

[@iamaloserkid]

thanks for this! I was waiting for some more info on this😄

[@upgradeplans777]

One funny thing is that Rutte misspoke when he said that his position is completely subordinate to [the Netherlands]. He actually said that is was completely unsuitable to it. (It was pretty clearly a mispronunciation though.)

[@rjfaber1991]

I did notice that as well, yes. He meant to say _ondergeschikt,_ but actually said _ongeschikt._

[@jaspermooren5883]

Really good video! I'm Dutch myself and have been following the news closely and it's fairly accurate. It is indeed basically completely useless to look at current polling for an election in November. The Netherlands is always pretty swingy and almost no party has a large stable voting base. It is not uncommon for polls within weeks before an election to change by 10%-points or sometimes even more. Parties can double or halve in size in the polling simply based on tactical voting and new developments. People who always vote for the same party are the exception rather than the rule in modern politics in the Netherlands. There is also the complete wildcard that is the BBB (farmer's party) that won big in the provincial election as a more or less new party. They could reasonably get anything between 4 and 40 seats.

[@jimmyver3613]

I will be surprised if BBB canget above 10 seats tbh. They had success only because of the farmers but beyond that they really don't have very good points and people to become a big party. Maybe this will change but it also happened to FvD

[@MartijnPennings]

It will be very interesting to see what BBB will do in the election. If anything, they proved to be good at campaigning for local elections, where lots of people are rooting for their own local farming community. It's something else to do a national election campaign, with national and international policies.

[@-haclong2366]

Yep, I've voted across the political spectrum over the years, I know very few people that consistently vote for the same party in every election.

[@KevinNijmeijer]

Covered very well! Thank you!

[@RoderikvanReekum]

Great video it is very accurate.

[@ceesjanmol]

There is a huge sigh of relief going though the Netherlands. And despair in some quarters, where people are suffering from crises inflicted by Rutte and his governments.

[@j.t.6741]

Yep. On the international stage he was a good head of state, but within the netherlands it was pretty much constantly us dealing with the consequences of bad decisions he made

[@ceesjanmol]

@@j.t.6741 and the civil servants that prepared the non-solutions, breaking the law (11 pages of laws broken listed in only one of the crises), who are still there and who will prepare non-solutions for the next cabinet.

[@Koozje]

yoo dramaqueen He did more good than bad. I am not reliefed, but it is good to have some fresh blood. We will see if the next PM will be better/ worse.

[@kuunoooo7293]

Rutte was een goei, het doet me spijt dat hij moet gaan

[@bzuidgeest]

Only in your corner. There is nobody to really replace him. We are still one of the best countries to live in. Until the war in Ukraine poverty and unemployment and such were al going down steadily. I expect that especially if the BBB leader replaces him, we will be going to need to vote again quickly. There are many problems without easy solution. Things that driving a tractor to den haag will not fix. You don't only need intelligence and knowledge, you also need a very strong back. And I for one don't know any politician that has those in the quantities needed. If the BBB win I give them three months or something before their leader has a mental breakdown.

[@kalpeshmanna7233]

13 years is quite short. In Russia leaders serve for life time

[@RunawayTrain2502]

They serve untill they stand to close to their 13th story window.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

could be longer if there is no crisis from russian war. might be longer than xi jin ping or erdogan.

[@outerspace7391]

The fact thay you had to make it about Russia all over again 🤡🤡🤡

[@PAard-ko6ig]

The fact that you had to make it about clowns 🤡🤡🤡. Clowns are people too you know

[@outerspace7391]

@@PAard-ko6ig TRUE, very true actually

[@susanwood1445]

Thanks

[@vicakolbeek7904]

Great video! I am from The Netherlands, and it was expected that the government would collapse, but that Mark Rutte would step down was a surprise for a lot of people. All the subjects you mentioned will be debated, but I followed the debate yesterday and every party was talking about new leadership and a new political The Hague. I think that the next election will also be about which party and who will be the best to take The Netherlands in that new direction they were talking about yesterday.

[@jdjphotographynl]

Then again, new leadership has been a theme for several elections already, but what has really changed in that sense?

[@vicakolbeek7904]

@@jdjphotographynl Now people feel that there need to change something and with Mark Rutte stepping down means that there is going to be a lot of change. There is an end to Mark Rutte and they want to use that to change things. And create a new political The Hague where everything goes faster and smoother.

[@jdjphotographynl]

​@@vicakolbeek7904 Let me keep it at seeing is believing... ;) Fact remains that we in the Netherlands are as politically divided and splintered up as we have ever been, so chances are very likely you're still going to need at least 4 political parties to form a government. And the more parties get involved, the slower and stickier decision making generally goes. And in terms of having politics more open and transparent, let's see how much of that will be left after the first scandal in a new government has broken out, and the media are on the case like mosquitoes on a hot summer night. The parade is fun and games when everything is going well, but once the shit starts to hit the fan, I want to see if the concerning politicians will still stick with their principles then and keep showing their transparency. If so, respect, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen.

[@sebe2255]

@@jdjphotographynlExactly nothing will change and people will keep whining about the same issues that are barely adressed

[@GundamReviver]

Finally he is gone. maybe FINALLY there can be some actual change. instead of teflon mark just smiling and everyone forgetting all his fuckups and inaction XD

[@ICANanimations]

this is a really good video I have to say. thank you for making it.

[@raphaeldekker6124]

Love the vid

[@augustus331]

I hope someone like Frans Timmermans will take over the reins of power. He's the only one with the authority and legitimacy to take over from Rutte.

[@nonegone7170]

Frans ran to EU politics to shout at us filthy peasants from his ivory tower.

[@Rosebakker5242]

Btw there have been only two times where the same party in the polls was the biggest 6 months before the elections and during election night. Those two times are 2003 and 2021 The list is 2021: VVD lead, VVD won 2017: PVV lead, VVD won 2012: SP lead, VVD won 2010: CDA lead, VVD won 2006: PvdA lead, CDA won 2003: CDA lead, CDA won 2002: PvdA lead, CDA won 1998: VVD lead, PvdA won 1994: D66 lead, PvdA won 1989: PvdA lead, CDA won 1986: PvdA lead, CDA won 1982: CDA lead, PvdA won (but didn’t form govt) 1981: PvdA lead, CDA won

[@Pindasaus]

This gives me hope. I don’t want the BBB to win. They represent 0,3% of people (farmers). It’s a one-issue party but not everything is/should be about them.

[@Rosebakker5242]

@@Pindasaus same! I hate the fuckers, anti-democratic, anti-minority and anti-rule of law with a touch of defending the big agro business is not my flavour

[@Selivio]

@@Pindasaus Maybe you should first wait and than read the BBB's election program. After that you should/could decide that it's an one issue party or not. Too easy to say now that they are an one-issue party...

[@toraqi8225]

@@Selivio This will be BBB's second national election and they already won the past regional election. As it stands based on previous elections they are pretty much a one issue party, I don't see why that would be a controversial statement.

[@martijn8554]

​@@Seliviothat's like saying we need to wait for the Party for the Animals to show their complete program before thinking of voting for them. They (and de BBB) can write a complete program, but you know that in any coalition negotiations they'll drop everything not related to their single issue. Don't get me wrong, I think the BBB could grow to be more than a single issue party but they're going to have to prove it first.

[@moeite7756]

There's a lot more factors that have probably been left out due to the video length limit that make speculations on the next election even more interesting. First off, Mark Rutte was the sole face of the VVD with no real significant politician within the party to follow him up. The other centre-party CDA alienated a lot of their voters by picking liberal-minded Wobke Hoekstra as their party leader while the more conservative, pragmatic Pieter Omzigt definetly was more popular, the latter leaving the party afterwards (which was kinda orchestrated by the ministry). Also Frans Timmermans making a return to the Dutch left (which I think was published after this video) might tilt the scales in their favour. All in all, elections will definetly be shaky this year.

[@JvWet]

Very perceptive and to-the-point analysis about the real reasons the government has fallen

[@dutmala]

I'm scared of what to come

[@ryltair]

I think Rutte did good things and bad things. I had only voted for him once a decade or so ago, and think it's good for the country's politics that he resigns, but I bear no ill will towards him. I do dread an electoral victory for the BBB. It will set the Netherlands a few decades back and won't solve any of our existing problems.

[@bleedingflower6078]

exactly I understand people want a good centrist party that in this case cares about the famers but I doubt the bbb is a party wee need to be in the lead. I am somewhat biased towards left parties because I believe they have my best interest but even as a centrist I feel like i'd probably believe bbb is not the way.

[@merenwen4495]

@@bleedingflower6078the problem with left is they’re only focusing on climate change nowadays.

[@yourealittlebitfat4344]

Mommy someone else that i don't agree with won an election, WE ARE DOOMED!!!!!!!!!

[@MijnAfspeellijst1234]

Amazing coverage tldr. I am dutch and follow dutch politics a lot and i can say this video is very informative. Good job :)

[@Mosern1977]

Cool, as an outsider it is good to know if the news represented are on point, or misses the mark.

[@guffeluffe5987]

Hopefully you will vote for the farmers party! else ur just dumb

[@sebe2255]

@@bommelmapping307By leaving?

[@sebe2255]

@@bommelmapping307 Eh I think most people who don’t vote vvd are mourning his departure lol

[@ObscenePizza]

@@Mosern1977 Did the "misses the mark" pun (as in Mark Rutte) come about by accident?

[@johndewit6877]

Very good piece, and I say this as a Dutch person

[@EGO0808]

What makes Dutch people always think they know what is right or wrong?

[@johndewit6877]

@@EGO0808 We’re really direct when it comes to our opinions. Most people “think” they’re always right, but don’t say it aloud. We do

[@EGO0808]

@@johndewit6877 I think 'blunt' is the right word in English, rather than 'direct'. The Dutch do not seem to understand how their bluntness is often being perceived by many as either arrogant, or ignorant at best.

[@johndewit6877]

@@EGO0808 I agree, but the reality is, we are neither of those things. Since we’re used to everyone just speaking their minds, we don’t see being blunt, or rather real, as a problem but as an asset

[@gregdemetri7867]

In Canada, media have said nothing. I checked local new stations, and local radio station, not even a peep.

[@MeiinUK]

Why should they say anything ? This is a Dutch issue. Either if you are a part of the EU, like the UK is.. then you need to know. But if you are in Canada... this is and has nothing directly to do with you. Unless you are their trading partners. This channel has been disputed in UK parliament as well... Cos we have lost good reporting for Europe... KZbin, and the lieks of Facebook.. and now Meta.. is ruining European politics. Their so called "immigration" is directly linked to these social media platform.. b ypassing their own immigration laws... And even locals, cannot actually find out who should and should not be allowed to enter. That is atrocious. Even for my job, I have been harassed out of existence, for quite a few roles as well.. Cos I use Facebook.... recruitment agencies, with those so called analytics, meant that as a Brit.. I am being targetted here... This is not on top of so called Chinese hackers.. and even local terroristic... chinese hackers either. So.... It goes on and on and on.

[@bryan2439]

I waited for this one

[@abyssal_phoenix]

May i say that you said ter apel quite well? First time hearing a foreigner besides a german saying its name

[@Pigeon0fDoom]

Waiting 5 days for this video

[@a4senal101]

Loving the new Barnet

[@rohansaxena4751]

I can't believe that all of this is happening while I'm in the country for the first time taking a course on european politics

[@normanclatcher]

Lucky you. Front-row seat.

[@PAard-ko6ig]

You should visit Belgium

[@boyanandonov6723]

Hope the flames of capitalism keep you warm.

[@cheswick617]

so says a commie bot.

[@rohansaxena4751]

@@cheswick617 I am a commie but I'm interested in knowing how you figured out 😂

[@michelvondenhoff9673]

Rutte plays gambit time and again, but this isn't a game of chess it is running a country with people...

[@edy8984]

Chess is not gambling

[@fur_avery]

​@@edy8984...do you not know what's a gambit?

[@eefaaf]

6:13 Interesting sign on that tractor.

[@Ticklestein]

7:07 - It’s actually funnier, he misspoke, he didn’t say “subordinate to it”, but “my position in relation to that is unfit” Where you substituted unfit with subordinate. (Ongeschikt is unfit, what he said. Ondergeschikt is subordinate, which is what he meant)

[@meestalmees]

Rutte is like a nokia (props if you get the reference) it was great when it came out, and although it still technically works, it is just better to get yourself a new phone to get things done

[@Nick-vd7cg]

Yeah also the 3210's were able to be thrown off the stairs and it still works, i wonder if Rutte can survive such a fall too.

[@owendewaal9805]

​@@Nick-vd7cgWell that made me cackle like a maniac out loud, thx xD

[@coronaphone710]

But those Nokia's lasted... 13 years to be precise 😅 Unlike their fancy new counterparts, but I digress. Maybe 2 terms are enough for leaders and prime ministers all across the globe, now we are all online and have a better view on how our new global orwellian technology actually helps us on a global political scale. I can see online that we all across the globe are actually kind of the same.

[@jojboy]

Its not purely about immigration.. They didn't wanted to fall on the ecologic part. They have to reduce the amount of nitrogen but the actions to solve this is too controversial. To win votes.. they let it fall on immigration..

[@GundamReviver]

bingo, it was all one big show. mark's government fucked up (again and again) but know voters tend to have the memory of a may fly. so now they only remember this, not the fails, and thus the vvd doesnt crash to the floor like it should.

[@armingleiner5292]

Both far left climate and mugration pllicy need to be stopped and turned around 180 degrees.

[@Jajalaatmaar]

Immigration is a pretty huge issue though. More than 50% of new houses built have to be build to accommodate population growth. This population growth is exclusively caused by migration and is higher than predicted. So the housing market is still fcked, especially if you're poor. In addition, switching to full population growth by migration means enormous changes in society as migrants bring different values, customs and needs. So far, this has been ignored for about 30 years by ruling parties (and sadly, by pretty much every left-leaning party in the Netherlands), to the dismay of many voters.

[@MasoMaria]

@@Jajalaatmaar sure, it is definitely a big subject with a lot of complex problems that a lot of people disagree on. However, the government didn't fall because of disagreement on this subject, it fell because the VVD decided this was the most strategic moment to force new elections. They proposed something they knew their coalition members would never agree with and they did it on a subject that they know can get them some extra points with the voters to their right instead of letting the government fall on another subject that would see their own voters move to other parties. It was strategic, it was smart, but it's also backstabbing your coalition partners and showing that when choosing between our country and their party, the VVD will always choose their party.

[@sebe2255]

@@MasoMariaYeah but that is always how it works. If the other parties (mainly d66) thought new elections would have been beneficial, they would have voted Rutte out earlier

[@supernenechi]

I want to just express that this video is extremely well researched and well made! You expressed everything I needed to know and all the stuff I already knew as well. Seeing it condensed down into a format like this is very helpful.

[@SJITZ]

Oh my, it's about my country now.

[@jimnirvana5841]

I am dutch and born and raised in the Netherlands and believe me that much happened which is not mentioned in this video but its a decent basic info video so +1 for that !!

[@nightclock626]

If you could show me sources to dive deeper into this, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

[@jaspermooren5883]

I agree, but they are literally called tldr, so yeah, you can't really expect to get 13 years of politics in detail in a single 10 min video.

[@WhiteOwlet]

@@bommelmapping307 As a Dutch person who's been living abroad for most of that period, I'm a bit out of the loop. How has the political landscape changed?

[@WhiteOwlet]

@@bommelmapping307 That's insanely many parties. Are the most extreme parties (PVV, FvD, those tiny leftist ones) still growing fastest, then? Or are there still some relatively centrist parties of respectable size left?

[@salami_boi3169]

@@WhiteOwlet pvv has stagnated to about 25-ish seats, fvd only has about 2 seats and lost seats to splinter groups like ja21. left has mostly lost seats and have not really been unified, so its good that pvda and groenlinks are working together, sp (socialist party) has been about stable for the last 10 years.

[@rubenk548]

It's long overdue for him to step down. He has made almost criminal decisions and then suddenly doesn't have a recollection of it ever happening. We hope to never hear from him again as he has been lying too much. In regards to the BBB, they are an incapable party that originates from a group that resorted to something you may even want to call domestic terrorism. Hopefully that it will become clear that they don't actually are able to perform anything on a larger scale and will be moved from the political stage completely.

[@denizyilmaz5381]

Speak for yourself, not others.

[@nonegone7170]

@@denizyilmaz5381 A majority of dutch people agree with him...

[@denizyilmaz5381]

@@nonegone7170 he should still speak for himself, or state as a fact (with source) that the majority thinks this way. In addition, the issue has always been that there was no one more capable, and still is, which Ruben is also implying.

[@joostvhts]

We may not even want to call it domestic terrorism. It WAS terrorism.

[@AnymMusic]

@@denizyilmaz5381 BBB just is a "fck rutte" party and nothing else. If Rutte didn't have a vision, then the BBB is legally blind

[@Gdsamplify]

Godspeed

[@harinarain09]

This might be a bit of nitpicking but you showed a German farmers protest instead of a Dutch one

[@DrGeoxion]

Ah a video about the Netherlands where I live and know the situation always give a nice opportunity to see how TLDR covers it. And every time I'm pleasantly surprised by how neutral and factual it is! So well done!

[@Palinghufter]

I think it's good that we finally have a change in leadership. 13 years is just too long, there needs to be a limit.

[@sebe2255]

Why, if someone was popular and did a good job for 13 years why would you get rid of them arbitrarily

[@sebe2255]

@@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIIlIlIlIllIlIl Personally I agree, but he managed to hold on for 13 years. So a lot of people clearly thought he did a good enough job But I was speaking more broadly. If there was a leader I liked and he kept getting reelected I wouldn’t want him to be arbitrarily forced to quit

[@PutsOnSneakers]

@@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIIlIlIlIllIlIl People who dont do a good job don't get re-elected for 13 years straight. You must be blind to the majority that kept voting for him to stay in power that long

[@raimuu14]

@@sebe2255 tell that to Turkey, whose PM turned President (the presidency seat used to be separated and was independent of parties but this guy forced them to merge) has run for 2 decades and has run the country's economics to the ground, with rampant corruption left right and center

[@sebe2255]

@@raimuu14 Yeah so?

[@robashworth83]

Love the videos but please sort your audio balance out. It's not matched between sections and it makes for a frustrating watch.

[@bradcapello6875]

He's finally gone. 🇳🇱 Great video. 👏

[@SourVodka]

Anyone enjoying the NATO summit too ?

[@losdirectosdetroopa973]

Could you talk about Spain? You talked about dutch provincial elections and their anticipated elections, but not about Spain, who had autonomous elections and have anticipated the elections

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

because spain isnt woke enough.

[@losdirectosdetroopa973]

@@rizkyadiyanto7922 Why would that be a reason?

[@BrightWendigo]

@@losdirectosdetroopa973this channel clearly has a left leaning bias

[@losdirectosdetroopa973]

@@BrightWendigo But that doesn't explain my question

[@shadowsift]

Super left :(

[@Goatcha_M]

Sounds like they need to switch to Ranked Voting.

[@brodacx2268]

I wonder what the future will hold for us

[@MegaUMU]

There has been growing Resistance to Rutte's leadership within his own party as Rutte's time to shine was going down. (More resistance to support certain stuff for example). What kept him on was that there was and still is no clear replacement for him

[@xiyition]

Quite stupid. VVD has nobody but Rutte. No rutte means no votes for them from the three million boomers who think "oh he's alright"

[@outerspace7391]

Good. Was about time for the vvd to kick the bucket

[@MegaUMU]

@@bommelmapping307 Edit: resistance = i mean to his policies and decreasing PM "able" he was. there has been way more noise since last elections as Rutte had more trouble getting his party together. Since last elections he has been critised more openly by party members than b4 as b4 the party was pretty united under him. Also the fall of the Rutte 4 is partially made possible due to the insistence of the VVD party pushing Rutte for a stricter Asylum measurement to tone down the numbers (they have been moving more own their own rather than Rutte setting the tone). Since (atleast for now) Rutte is retiring from (atleast Dutch) Politics he would have less reason to end his PM carreer like this, unless like some rumors said prior to he announced to step down that he aims for a European/NATO job. Doesnt mean his support in his party was low, but thats also due their being no clear VVD succesor to Rutte and the party still wanting to remain united. So the support figure doesnt rlly show the little details like these. He had support but his party didnt (mostly) follow their leader as blindly as before. The fact that the noise surounding a succesor to rutte was being thrown around is also indicative that they are looking for something to replace Rutte.

[@MegaUMU]

@@bommelmapping307 The pushing for the stricter Asylum is but 1 aspect to why Ruttes hold over his party was less. There has been more resistance than blindly follow Rutte and Rutte had to make more compromises than b4 with his party showing that the party was drifting away from him. 2nd Rutte's leadership was brought into discussion especially since last elections talks about replacement of Rutte was creeping up every now and then. This couldve just been speculation by the media but now its seems to be that Rutte was also considering stepping down was right. If Rutte was fine support for him to remain wouldve been strong, but hes been here for too long causing his party members to worry if the "Rutte Effect" was decreasing (each elections has been less for them was if I remember is also 1 of the reasons the started questioning that). If no noise about replacement heard it wouldve been fine but the fsct that it was being considered showed Rutte's time to lead the VVD was also coming (though at the time just speculation)

[@rchap-grab]

I think he wants Ursula's job on the EU commission when she goes to NATO

[@darrylbonner7208]

2023 is going to be an interesting year.

[@SpazzyMcGee1337]

You either step down from the role of Dutch Prime Minister, or serve long enough to see yourself become a meal.

[@Bram06]

I think one thing that's very important to keep in mind is that Rutte was extremely popular within his own party. With that, it's very unclear who will now become the next leader of the VVD. Historically, the VVD has always had two wings: the centre-right and the right-wing. Rutte was originally from the centre-right, which is why the Rutte administration has always been relatively relaxed on immigration. However, with Rutte gone, it's now possible that the VVD will elect a more right-wing leader, tougher on immigration. This is not only possible, but perhaps likely, as this would ease the cooperation with the other right-wing parties. One thing is clear: the political future of the Netherlands will in terms of immigration and environmental policy be right-wing, putting it on a collision course with EU law and consequently EU membership altogether.

[@antimonycup7066]

One can hope..

[@madafakahakunamatata8269]

You are not wrong, but also not entirely correct either. The Netherlands knows that EU membership is needed for survival. So they wont do anything to risk that. Furthermore, more and more EU nations are opposing immigration, so it will translate into a change in policy from the EU aswell. Otherwise they'll be risking their own existance.

[@Bram06]

@@madafakahakunamatata8269 I concur that leaving the EU would be a tremendously stupid undertaking for the Netherlands. Nonetheless, the most likely coalition after the next election will most likely be fairly eurosceptic. Not hard eurosceptic per se, but certainly more eurosceptic than the average voter. And what I'm basically saying is that the VVD may become more eurosceptic immigration.

[@armingleiner5292]

Thank God. We need more countries who stand up to the EU suicidal migration and climate policy.

[@Just_Flipy]

@@Bram06 problem is that its not Europe that is the problem for these right winged parties, the law is forcing them to do these things, and its only getting worse./ their policies wont stand at all and that should be made clear during the election that all of these right winged plans are just that, plans... not actual truths. all of these right winged policies are in the early days of policy... for decades, its just not going to happen. Education is shit because of cutbacks by the right as is infrastrcuture as right wingers pushed for more roads, but this did nothing to solve the issue. and there is no more Rutte to explain these things away with a ralious but stable future, because with him, there was at least the idea that plans from a decade ago, could be pushed and worked on. not anymore and as with parties, never has it been a positive sign when a leader leaves. from D66 to GreenLeft. also the left is more... organised. they have proof their policies work and that they can be implimented right away.

[@rickvandam3238]

As a Dutch person I missed this entire thing and the most worrying thing to me is, who will take over? The other options are not very confident and rutte just has been here for too long

[@ysbrandd4908]

ik weet niet, we zullen het zien na de verkieizingen!

[@nxtlvlnlkr5312]

i cant imagine others doing a worse job than the last coalition

[@rickvandam3238]

@@ysbrandd4908 joh ik zal niet stemmen Ben te dom om te weten wat er toch gebeurt Zolang ik maar een baan heb 🤣

[@methos4866]

I'm glad that Rutte is gone. The fact that he's been there for so long was the problem and it shows. I vote left and i'm all for helping refugees btw lest you think i'm one of those right wing crazies.

[@nxtlvlnlkr5312]

@@methos4866 yeah so you're one of those left wing crazies, nice

[@quantumcomata105]

Collapse? Were there any injuries?

[@MChagall]

Interesting how your poll shows BBB in the lead while all other polls show VVD in the lead. Basicly a reverse between these two parties.

[@aidanya1336]

Its strange how there are so many more people voting right. VVD always won because they were the only non extreme right wing part. Now they finally have some competition it seem to not have lost many voters to the BBB. I wonder how many people vote BBB without knowing what other stances they have besides for the agricultural sector. I think this will make them drop during the election cycle when people find out.

[@spudragaming8374]

Good video, just something I would add: The expected 70.000 asylum applications is a way too high expectation, since we’re currently only at 20.000 for this year.

[@shadowsift]

Only 20k a year? Jesus christ. I feel bad for the country your grandkids grow up in.

[@spudragaming8374]

@@shadowsift It will go up since we’re only half way this year, but so far it’s lower than the expected 70K. 20K isn’t a lot, but keep in mind this is only asylum, not immigration as a whole. I’m just talking about this situation specifically. But then again, why do you feel bad for my grand kids (if I would ever get them) due to asylumseekers? I find that kind of a weird thing to say since there are real problems like capitalist greed, but people like you seem to like to always point to asylumseekers as the problem? Especially those that the government collapsed over are just kids who should be able to join their parents, which are really not that many, but xenophobes prefer them to die in a war torn country…

[@sebe2255]

@@spudragaming8374Asylum seekers and immigration are also a massive problem for a ton of reasons. Like obviously greedy corporations are a problem but so is immigration, especially at the current extreme levels (400k a year in total) when combined with an already existing demographic crisis

[@spudragaming8374]

@@sebe2255 Can you provide a source? I know last year was a peak due to the war in Ukraine and I guess a little bit also because of the end on travel restrictions due to covid, but not near the 400K. 2019 was a peak at that that time at 108K, covid brought it drastically down in 2020, 2021 recovered to normal levels and 2022 (Ukr war) it was a peak of 200K, which is still half of the 400K you claim.

[@sebe2255]

@@spudragaming8374 The source is literally the cbs, look again

[@RafaelW8]

Finally, no more Rutte. Thank God. I hated that guy. Maybe now BG and RO will finally join Schengen.

[@Tinky1rs]

You're the second one to bring this up here, but this topic is not internally discussed in the Netherlands. I can find two articles (among all regular news media) from 2022, and a few from 2011. I doubt it's Rutte himself vetoing it, and migration policy (as that is what they paint the issue to be) is only getting more stringent. Unless we get a more leftleaning coalition, I doubt much will change on our side of things.

[@georgegilden2540]

Jack, you have way more hair on your head than before. It looks good and makes you look younger. Is it your own hair/natural?

[@fulconielsgawein]

Good report a bit late but nevertheless a good report.

[@aaronjones8905]

What I find so bizarre is that international law states that refugees should be granted asylum in the nearest safe nation. One can simultaneously pity the people seeking to enter Europe and question why they are in Europe in the first place. It is far more logical for refugees and asylum seekers to go to nearby countries because of a) a closely related culture, b) ease of return, and c) safer routes. I'm left to conclude that some in Europe feel a sort of guilt over Europe's prosperity and therefore feel obligated to admit people in large numbers. This is evidenced by the confusion of words when this topic is discussed. Immigrants, refugees, and asylum seekers are not supposed to be synonymous, nor are they supposed to be treated under the same policies. - Immigrants are expected to become permanent and assimilated members of the new society. The host nation has every right to set the type and number of immigrants they admit. - Refugees are normally large numbers of women and children fleeing a disaster or war which may be resolved in the near future. Nations have an obligation to admit them, but they normally go to the nearest safe place, as they expect to return once it is safe. - Asylum seekers are historically small groups of people or individuals who are facing persecution for their beliefs. They are not likely to return to their home nation unless significant political changes occur. They normally seek long term residency in the nearest safe country, although, that may be farther away than that of a refugee. Europe seems to be facing a large number of immigrants who are being erroneously labeled as refugees. Seeking a better economic situation has never been grounds for refugee or asylum status. Also, those refugees who are fleeing war torn areas like Sudan, Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan have multiple safe countries between them and Europe. The large numbers of young and unmarried men demonstrates that something is not right here.

[@MijmerMopper]

Over 80% of refugees are in neighbouring countries, in extremely overcrowded camps with insecure (if any) access to clean water, shelter and food

[@JoshSweetvale]

The problem with being able to soothe all conflict - as a superpower, like Mark Rutte has - is that when _real_ problems show up, instead of _fixing_ them, you paper them over. It's the "charismatic CEO" problem writ large. The Dutch government may be one of the best in the world: when something goes wrong, usually it gets fixed. Rutte's supervised an uptick of coverups instead of glasnost. The farmers are the last in a _long_ line of groups to be 'oops'd' without an adequate fix. Only difference is the Farmers got given money by oligarchs, so they got politically active.

[@helvis7336]

ah thought it had something to do with tulips....

[@AspieGamer13]

>_< sharp change in volume at the end

[@Welgeldiguniekalias]

The people sleeping outside the reception centre in Ter Apel were doing so of their own volition, in order to jump the queue. There were several offsite "crisis emergency shelters" (sports halls with field beds) with free capacity. Municipal authorities made very clear they didn't want anyone pitching tents for the queue jumpers, because it would aggravate an unsanitary and unsafe situation, but some NGO did it anyway, and then the responsible ministry did it too, illegally and much to the chagrin of the local council.

[@ChristiaanHW]

the NGO's that act in Europe are almost criminal. look at the ferry services illegally trafficking people all over the Mediterranean. if they wouldn't do that the risk would become a lot higher for migrants and less people will make the journey. and they dump them on islands not even remotely up to the challenge of supporting thousands of people. illegal immigration is a business supporting not just the traffickers in (North) Africa but also the NGO's and the organisations like The Dutch COA and Vluchtelingenwerk. with less immigration they will need to scale down and get/make less money.

[@outerspace7391]

The NGO's are responsible for all this suffering, coming from both locals and migrants. The entirety of their activities is illegal, a normal government, a government unlikeRutte'a for instance, would have put an end to their criminal network... Europe is dominated by Ruttes however, which are gladly cooperating with them

[@transient_]

In my opinion he waited 13 years too long to retire.

[@adrianvazquez6127]

Family reunion restrictions seems only fair, because there is just not enough infrastructure to have them just yet. It's egen hard for highly skilled workers with high salaries to find a decent place to live for a sane rate.

[@spicychad55]

Didn't a govt collapse happen in Belgium some years ago?

[@teaser6089]

2:20 For people that aren't very well known with The Netherlands as a country, 40k - 70k might not sound like a lot, but The Netherlands is one of the most densely populated areas in the world. And we have a housing crisis that requires The Netherlands to build over 1 million homes before it is fixed, all these immigrants are basically too much for the building sector to handle whilst also needing to build homes for Dutch people, whilst the Nitrogen Crisis is causing big building projects to spend months on research and buying off farmers to be allowed to build, due to too much nitrogen production in Dutch soil. Basically it's not that The Netherlands cannot handle the immigrants economically, but politically and socially in the current situation it is impossible to keep explaining to citizens that have been waiting on a list for 15 years to have a chance to rent a home that a family of immigrants will be put in front of you in the queue, cause they fled their country. Next to the fact that it is a tad crazy that the EU is wanting to put immigrants in the most expensive country in the EU(technically Luxembourg is more expensive, but it is so small that no one can fit in there anyways lol). If you ask the average Dutch person I think you will find that paying X amount to house refugees isn't a problem, the problem is that they are being housed in a country with almost no land left to house people in, we barely have any nature left and currently the EU wants us to protect the nature that is left, whilst also housing many more people, the land shortages are crazy. Whilst countries like France and Germany have so much empty space left, that The Netherlands would be totally willing to pay for the costs to have the refugees be placed in countries that can actually fit them.

[@petemartin_net]

I live in NL, and I've long held the opinion the the position of Duth PM must be.... a really sucky job that nobody wants. Rutte's success appears to be based on pulling some people together, not to be a ideological leader or develop any meaningful policy. Very good unassuming diplomatic skills, useful in the wider EU, but he's essentially been a 13 year caretaker manager.

[@methos4866]

I'm glad to see him go and i wish he left way earlier. Now i just hope the country doesn't backslide even further to the right more than it already has.

[@peterjanvanbijnen226]

you forgot pieter omzigt

[@getnohappy]

Godamn it, everyone else's RW government is collapsing but ours (UKs) rolls onward.

[@joost00555]

Usually when I watch one of your videos it is about some thing or another from another country. It is very interesting to hear how you explain this event from my own country.

[@polpolik2]

Great Video, nice informative yet compact. If there is a future video about Dutch elections, be sure to include the MP Pieter Omtzicht in this analysis. He is a huge playmaker in the elections due to his trustworthyness and honesty. What he is set to do so far is still unclear, but polls indicate he can move an incredible (read 20+ seats) of votes!

[@MxSheep]

Unfortunately it's purely speculating. And therefore something journalists are carefull to talk about. First he needs to be on the ballot, than you can discuss the impact it will have. (yes there is a serious chance he can get my vote if he does)

[@marym7104]

Within 3 hours!

[@Vanyali]

zo gaat dat, ze hebben 18 jaar op hun postje gezeten, tijd voor pensioen :p in België niet anders

[@johnvanjohn825]

On one hand, its good that Mark is finally gone. On the other, it means a lot of things are up in the air right now. There's even the posibility that the oligarch-funded BBB could win, and that doesnt bode well for our country.

[@Hephaestios01]

Do you have any sources/info for me to read up on the BBB being funded by oligarchs?

[@johnvanjohn825]

@@Hephaestios01 Sadly, there isn't one clear place to read up on this, as most of it is done discretely, but a good to start would be the following: Its sponsor is a company called "ReMarkAble communitcatie BV", focused on "strategic marketing and communications in the agro- and foodsector". It is funded in large part by Vion, SAC, Bayer and Monsanto, all agriculture giants. Additionally, there's the thinktank Agrifacts (frankly, the name should say enough). The leader of the BBB said herself that its party-owned, although it isnt officially. Its funded by Royal A-ware, De Heus, and Vandrie-Group, also all agriculture giants. Agrifacts has repeatedly spread misinformation in favor of the companies, putting official government figures in question with faulty research papers.

[@peterfireflylund]

@@johnvanjohn825a good thing the “greens” and the Socialists never lie about anything and never receive any kind of shady money! They have always been as clean as a Tour de France cyclist :)

[@ChristiaanHW]

@@johnvanjohn825 to be fair a lot of parties are (probably) sponsored by corporations. but there is a limit to how much 1 party can donate to a political party so it isn't like the big farming lobby is giving millions to BBB. for example why do you think so many ministers get a nice easy job as director or CEO of NS, Schiphol etc, after they leave politics. it's because during their time as politicians they did the bidding of that company.

[@Glindraug]

@@ChristiaanHW But this is far worse, we are not talking about lost Euro's, but about pollution of our soil and water

[@leandervr]

It was utterly bizarre that we got this coalition again after they resigned because of the benefits scandal last time. But the again, for some unfathomable reason, despite that and the many other scandals on the preceding decade, people keep voting VVD. Okay it's not entirely unfathomable, people are just selfish. As long as VVD will do everything to keep all the benefits for homeowners and landlords in place, boomers will vote for them... So we're probably looking at exactly the same crap with a new face after the next election...

[@gasbasman]

Do you have any better choice on the right?

[@pjhgerlach]

The left will ruin the country. It's a shame we don't have any center parties. The political landscape polarized just as Dutch society. 'Polderen' is dead.

[@redrazr6269]

I mean… what did you expect? Do you really think if given the choice, people are going to vote to end their benefits?

[@pjhgerlach]

@@redrazr6269 So how did you vote then? Better yet; why do you vote?

[@leandervr]

Better choice on the right? No. Better choice than the right? Sure.

[@pietero.o6792]

Im just happy he didnt pronounce it as "Rootuh"

[@LeeuwAdelaar-xe7hh]

Nice ⭐👍

[@ericconnor8419]

It is probably a good thing for Dutch people that apparently he has been in power so long and I barely recognise his name. I wish we had a PM like that. I recognise his face but I could not say a single fact about him, other than he is PM of the Netherlands and he gave some IFVs and AA equipment to Ukraine. You know you live in a stable country when the government can collapse and nothing changes (presumably you don't have the army out in the streets and you still have electricity etc.) and the neighbours don't even notice. Imagine the circus if it happened in America or Britain.

[@sudazima]

i heard my govt fell from a polish friend of mine lol

[@maxdenbreejen9844]

Yeah I live in the Netherlands and this is the first time I hear our government has collapsed.

[@sudazima]

@@maxdenbreejen9844 xD

[@Tinky1rs]

The only good thing is that on the international stage he was a competent guy. Nationally he's been quite a handful. I don't think much of the internal Dutch shitfuckery is reported elsewhere.

[@MijmerMopper]

On NATO and EU level he was quite recognizable.

[@ThijquintNL]

Here is a wild guess: coalition between VVD, BBB, CDA (basically BBB for old people) and ja21.

[@findict52]

That would be uniquely disastrous.

[@Clickens]

huilen. einde natuur en klimaat (was al weinig van over maar toch)

[@armingleiner5292]

​@@findict52This would be the best possible outcome. Climate policy and migration policy needs to be reversed 180 degrees.

[@findict52]

@@armingleiner5292 Fuck the world and fuck the people isn't actually going to fix anything

[@jasonhaven7170]

@@armingleiner5292 Kick out the Ukrainians.

[@yookalaylee2289]

Those two tiers seem completely backwards

[@paradigmfellow]

Why is your voice volume low?