How Farmers Won the Netherlands’ Local Elections

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Local elections in the Netherlands have dealt a huge blow to the incumbent governing coalition, as the anti-government BBB party came out on top. So how did this all play out? Why did the pro-farmer party win? And could this spell the end for Mark Rutte?
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[@gijsvanosdeman938]

As a Dutchman I want to show my appreciation for trying to pronounce the BBB party

[@whoknows8225]

Build Back Better?

[@dontknow4942]

@@whoknows8225 Boerburgerbeweging Meaning FarmerCitizenmovement.

[@hillbillysceptic1982]

It's pretty obvious that the BBB was formed to co-op and then derail the farmers market, I predict they will claim impotence to do anything that stops the seizure of farm land. The WEF has scheduled the netherlands for cultural destruction by mass waves immigrantion. No political group wants to stop it outside their rhetoric to voters.

[@kwarkposteworst5953]

​@@whoknows8225 hahahaha

[@kevirulezz]

Controlled opposition, its just CDA (politicians that ruinate the farmers right now) with a new new name

[@R0D18]

Fellow Dutchies, we made it to the big leagues, getting covered by TLDR News!

[@puikepuck]

They covered Dutch politics a bunch of times, far more often than actual important things in NL such as, for example, the nitrogen crisis

[@amosamwig8394]

bruh its not the first time

[@toyotaprius79]

Sure

[@edgar-edgarton]

You are being covered in Canada by Jordan B Peterson, Rebel News and The Countersignal. Let's Go Farmers!

[@chunkykong1976]

the way he pronounced BBB 😂😂😂

[@FinlayDaG33k]

I absolutely collapsed laughing when he tried to pronounce "Boeren Burger Beweging" but he gave it a fair shot.

[@drttgb4955]

My gat af gelag vir die probeer slag. Afrikaner hier.

[@eldrago19]

Rutter: came out of an election triggered by a scandal in his own government with more seats. Also Rutter: lost an election to angry cow and pig farmers.

[@HCShuffle]

All the farmers together only makes up for 3% of total voters. In fact many citizens see that under the coalition we have pretty much lost our dutch identity. Also they think 1 provence is entitled to everything at the cost of the other provinces, especially if it does not border the elite provence.

[@maxchase133]

I am happy you tried to say the Dutch name of the party. It was a noble effort. Unfortunately, not perfect score but definitely best grade in effort! 👍

[@NLvideomaster]

Exactly, A for effort 🤣

[@sneaky_krait7271]

Zonder context had ik het niet verstaan haha

[@Some_Dutch_Kid]

"not perfect" I rate it an F he said boehr buher beweving he also said rate instead of rutte

[@MrHedgehog69]

@@Some_Dutch_Kid Reete is wel een betere naam voor rutte

[@rolfdekkers1043]

A for effort D- for result but it's the effort that counts

[@wingviper]

Update: The BBB is expected to get 18 seats instead of the 16 seats stated in the video. Seems to be settling down to 17 seats.

[@Jack-Hands]

At the moment it's 17, but we'll see.

[@johngalt5166]

What was it?

[@wingviper]

@@johngalt5166 updated the comment.

[@johngalt5166]

@@wingviper thank you sir

[@jakeglenn2246]

This NAZI needs to be prosecuted for treason and jailed for life.

[@stevens1041]

I grew up in an overseas Dutch farming community. Small town of Dutch emigrants, growing almonds and raising cattle. Great people, I miss seeing all the almond trees.

[@LordCoeCoe]

Did it pay well?

[@abbadi0202]

​@@fontfroide1 😂😢

[@obinator9065]

I'll be laughing when you clowns have your fields drying up.

[@abbadi0202]

@@obinator9065 to your room now!!!

[@maarten1115]

​@@obinator9065 Given how every vegan on earth is dependent on almonds for their milk, I doubt that they will let the almonds die.

[@TheJH1015]

as a Dutchman, this really signifies how the Senate has completely lost its meaning and original purpose. Technically the Senate should only be checking if the new legislation is in accordance with the constitution and other (European) laws, not blocking legislation based on party policies. This is one of the reasons why a LOT of people are calling for the Senate to abolished - it has stopped doing its job anyway, causing actual decisions being made (which is already difficult enough in Dutch politics) to be almost impossible now.

[@dallassegno]

sounds good to me

[@gessie]

Plus, the Senate hasn't blocked major legislation in decades. It's like royalty and the pope: Utterly redundant.

[@pimziengs2900]

I am a Dutch citizen and this explanation is spot on! Although your pronounciation "Boer Burger Beweging" was pretty funny, but you made a very good translation of this acronym. This video is also a good recap of the whole situation, although I am a Dutch citizen. Respect man!

[@stupidminotaur9735]

lying about farmers attacking police, police have been shooting at kids. disliked this video.

[@AB-zl4nh]

Sorry but being born or resident somewhere doesn't make you a very knowledgeable on the politics. Most people living somewhere for all their life are pretty ignorant of politics there.

[@markthompson4567]

@@AB-zl4nh how do you know

[@markthompson4567]

he called the citizens framer union right wing standing up for what the people in your country want as right wing

[@pimziengs2900]

Exactly! I don’t feel offended in anyway cause I have followed the matter quite closely for some years now and my understanding is thorough enough I assume. I was amazed about the depth and clarity of the video.

[@Luxx0002]

This is actually one of the Better election summaries i have Seen. The news is reporting mostly on voter emotion forgetting to analyse the impact in the “real political world”. You quite well captured there are still options for Rutte with all other stuff parties. Dutch politics demands messy coalitions and compromises. Single “Big wins” won’t change that much on tomorrows government direction. This really differs from for example us or uk’s systems

[@SensitivityGames]

thats because the left does not want to talk about what this mean politicaly here XD

[@ezz625]

Yeah, it was kinda the same last time around with the far-right FvD. I was really worried when they became the biggest party in the senate, but in the end they basically achieved nothing and now they only have 2 seats.

[@janhogendoorn2]

One remarkt: BBB is not anti-government. They only are anti the ideas of the governing coalition parties.

[@ivvvvvvi]

@@gooser__43 We don't need farmers for food - they mostly produce for export which doesn't even constitute 2% of our GDP while taking up 54% of our land. They destroy our nature and don't even have anything to show for it.

[@denzellmovies]

@@gooser__43 we have more than enough food. And contrary to what you may think, we do actually need nature

[@Dronedudevideo]

What a clear and great news coverage. Great work!

[@Dikkeganzenclub]

Not much is going to change. BBB presented itself as a saviour from Rutte's horrible policies, but they pretty much want just the same, albeit slower.

[@hyperforce]

The reason for the Nitrate policy from the government is actually a bit more complex than that, at least as I understand it. The nitrate emissions are actually EU mandated, and are to strict because anywhere within 25km of a Natura 2000 zone (a natural reserve) is protected terrain. Now early in the 2000s, the previous government decided it was a good idea to designate EVERY pond, forest and lake as a Natura 2000 zone to the EU. Since unlike say, France, the Netherlands has a lot of interspersed nature zones between its cities and towns, this means that a large amount of these zones overlap infrastructure, and farming zones. Which is a major problem... Other countries have to follow these laws as well, but often have more space and are not nearly as densely packed with these natura 2000 zones as the Netherlands is. France for example has major Natura 2000 preserves, but they are few and far between. so it doesn't matter. As such, now, a major part of the Netherlands territory can't exceed certain emission levels due to the Natura 2000 zones being too close to them. While previously the government tried to sidestep this by allowing emissions to be offset from elsewhere... the ruling from the regulatory body (and the EU) basically made this bypass null and void. As a result, from one day to another, suddenly, the Netherlands had no more allowance in many of these zones to build, farm or well do much of anything. Even building windfarms or solar plants is restricted by these idiotic zones. Its gotten to the point major construction projects, like the Dutch airport are buying out farmers just to be able to expand one of their runways and fly more planes...

[@elibrahams5566]

Nitrate emissions can be bad. Especially for humans if they inhale them. However not eating, or losing your livelihood Is objectively worse.

[@ArnodJ]

You are damn right!!! That's the problem but people only think they have to protect the farmer, the farmer is still a director of a company so they wanna make money. The 'nature' that we have is under severe pressure from our agroculture, that's why groups of nature preservation activists have started farms with nature inclusive food production. Like agroforestry and foodforest systems, even tho the numbers are far better then on a regular farm but it takes longer till it makes good money. The farmers refuse those systems because they rather drive their tractors 😅

[@advancedomega]

Prohibiting farming in practice due to this law is an example of "The disease is annoying, but the cure is lethal."

[@aidanquiett668]

@@ArnodJ I mean, you try and convince someone to abandon their job to take a chance on something that some guy in a lab says will magically make you more efficient. Even if its foolproof, you have to uproot the single longest lasting profession in human history and essentially rebuild the industry from scratch

[@tijmen5355]

​​@@elibrahams5566 the Netherlands can lose 1/3 of famers and still have a food surplus. We are the largest food exporters on earth only behind the US. So this is not a matter of whether you want food or not. But many in the Netherlands dont understand this. Thats why the bbb won do big.

[@jannoottenburghs5121]

Also while the nitrogen law was passed by the Dutch parliament, the provincal councils are responsible for the implementation. Councils that are now filled with BBB members

[@Treinbouwer]

It has not been past. The law states 2035 as BBB wishes. They want to pass an other law that moves it to 2030.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

​BBB is like the party that received most votes to oppose coalition and opposition as a partisane movement of people who have distrust in current government and coalition of farmers (led by big agricultural companies and big farmers who direct small farmers and hobby farmers)

[@willemvanbeek5210]

It wasn’t passed, Groenlinks and PvdA blocked it, wasn’t going to far enough

[@martk1267]

​@@Treinbouwer 😊😊

[@stupidminotaur9735]

lying about farmers attacking police, police have been shooting at kids. disliked this video.

[@podunkest]

I think it's also important to mention, in case some viewers don't know, that although the Netherlands is smaller than most US States they are among the best farmers in the world and are the second largest exporter of food in the entire world behind the US. To say farming is important to their people and economy is a huge understatement.

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

There's also a Dutch enterprises that make an unique component, chip, key for technology. Truly a crucial country nowadays.

[@podunkest]

@@alejandrop.s.3942 You're talking about ASML, yes, they are the only company in the world that can make EUV lithography machines and are headquartered in Eindhoven. Arguably one of the most important companies in the world.

[@dallassegno]

which makes their 40% nitrogen compare significantly higher than other countries who have much much less. yeah let's stop making food first to reduce emissions. that sounds right

[@podunkest]

@@dallassegno and on top of that their ratios of emissions to production are also among the best in the world. They've jumped through hoops and even gone above and beyond, on their own accord in some cases, because they actually do give a fuck... This is blatant criminal behavior in broad daylight as far as I'm concerned.

[@f-86zoomer37]

@@dallassegno there is plenty of land elsewhere around the world to create food. People need to stop being selfish and think about our climate crisis. Unfortunately, feelings and fearmongering by conspiracists and science deniers failed the Dutch in these elections. Hopefully, this BBB party is just a fad and disappears next election.

[@mastrxl]

It's not about being "anti-green", it's about the total disregard for other plans, forcing a forth of all farmers out of buissnes after years of forced investments. This is going on while all industry powerhouses can continue on their merry way with hardly any laws in place for them. That is unfair, so that's where the shift in tone comes from

[@farrelco]

Klaus Schwab 'You'll own nothing and be happy' .. seems like a land grab to me by the Dutch Government working on behalf of WEF

[@borek772]

Except, it really is the Dutch farmers (who are obscenely rich btw), who are 99% responsible for the nitrogen crisis. I'm happy to bash big corpo, but this is rare case, where they are actually innocent. To reframe the discussion - it's rich asshole farmers who are destroying whatever left we have of our nature, poisoning everyone and stopping economic growth (no transport, no housing - but 'poor' 10M€+ networth farmer have to have his fat paycheck).

[@thomasandriessen1046]

It's also shitty that you'd have to vote for a right wing party to do something about this unjustice. At least that's how I interpreted the vid

[@fopdoodler9427]

​@@thomasandriessen1046 BBB isn't right-wing on the political spectrum.

[@achilleskoliakis9288]

@@fopdoodler9427 yes they are

[@maxchase133]

Side note for those interested, CDA already said they view the results has a clear message that things need to change. This could lead to friction with the D66 part that wants to push through with current legislation and agreements.

[@Taeriqify]

But eventually D66 might not have a choice but to acquiesce. If the current government falls it is likely their influence will diminish in a new coalition.

[@arturobianco848]

True but be real the only options we have is how much compensation do we give the farners that need to be closed down and can we give farmers batter compensation for their products so they can feed them with less polluting fodder. The farmers themself can probable diversify a bit so the impact is less. But even with all of that there are just to many so some of them need to be "forcefully" bought out or simply terminated. Now there might be a little wriggle room in the margins but the dutch governement has done that way to much so i think the EU patients is wearing a bit thin. And rightfully so (and yes i'm born a bred Dutchy)

[@JerehmiaBoaz]

@@arturobianco848 There is hardly any wiggle room, if there was real wiggle room the current government would have used it to avoid this election loss. The point is that the Netherlands are forced by the highest Dutch court (which went to the highest EU court for advice) to implement the minimum EU environmental standards considering ammoinia and nitrous oxides emissions. This means the goals are set and the only wiggle room is in how much each of the emitting parties must reduce its emissions. The largest emitters in the Netherlands are agriculture (61% of emissions), road traffic (9%), industry (9%), air and water traffic (6%) and homes and offices (6%); from those numbers it's obvious that reducing agriculture emissions by 5% has the same effect as reducing every other sector by 90%, and that doesn't even take into consideration how small the agricultural sector is compared to the others with exception of air and water traffic (there are 17.4 million Dutch of which 50,000 are farmers). Because the emission reduction has to be large to meet EU standards, the only rational choice is to reduce agriculture emissions first because that's where the big gains are to be had.

[@arturobianco848]

@@JerehmiaBoaz There is always some wriggle room but i agree with you most of it is already spend. Its more like ok we gonna run 2 or 3 years late in some earia's but it just because it took longer then we planned excuse kind of thing. And nobody is gonna buy that unless we actually deliver on the rest and stick to plans that where already made. I do think voting on BBB because of the emissions was the most stupid thing you could do cause in the end it will only cost everybody more and more the biggest loosers are going to be farmers because more of them will have to go and there will be less money to buy them out. But that what you get if you don't think i have zero sympathy for those farmers who voted BBB and will be screwed over by their own choice. I do have some/a lot of sympathy for their situation but that doesn't include to them making it worse for themselves. They are sounding suspiciously like Briitisch fisherman pre brexit.

[@bzuidgeest]

Cda won't there breaking up the government. They would loose badly in any election. Only stupid parties willingly lose seats in elections.

[@guineapigmart882]

your pronunciation of the Boer Burger Beweging party had me laughing out loud. sorry, but in my defence, it was funny.

[@pinquinsam4812]

At least he tried. And the dutch g-sound is hard for nonnative speakers.

[@hendrikjanssen9075]

It was fun! 😂😂😂

[@Tubemanjac]

How about Rutte? Sounds like rotten. 😅

[@utregsoulnorh715]

@@Tubemanjac hahaha.brilliant...cheerz for that coz he is rotten indeed

[@hungrymusicwolf]

@@Tubemanjac I mean that's just the right interpretation of his name so you can't even fault anyone for saying it like that.

[@LEGOMANIAC419]

Have these politicians never heard the adage, "Don't bite the hand that feeds you?"

[@denzellmovies]

they have, but they have probably never heard of the adage "Don't bite the hand that feeds other countries at the expense of your own nature"

[@thewrightoknow]

Very encouraging to hear, thanks for the clarity in the voting process!

[@jakeglenn2246]

This NAZI needs to be prosecuted for treason and jailed for life.

[@doranzyovalentijn5353]

Its a bullshit video

[@johnawakening9908]

Your delivery is still rough but very good job! I enjoyed it due to; interesting intro without too much second headline, good setup for the 30,000 foot overview and then and analysis that sounds convincing and has logic. You're a star ;-) Good job and thanks x

[@roodborstkalf9664]

Very good analysis for a person who is not from the Netherlands. You had hardly anything wrong.

[@twankoning6892]

Litterally the first sentence started wrong.

[@alwaysmeepin9609]

@@twankoning6892This video wasn’t sponsored by ground news?

[@jakeglenn2246]

This NAZI needs to be prosecuted for treason and jailed for life.

[@victoriabarnett4279]

Great reporting. Thanks

[@doranzyovalentijn5353]

BBB is literally green, left wing and pro gouvernment. This whole video is pure shit. This guy thinks that just because BBB says something that it is automatically true. Only way forward is to vote Forum For Democracy (FVD).

[@peterlol5125]

Though it seems the farmers and their sympathizers have won "politics", their radical actions such as lighting asbestos on fire on highways, blocking distribution centres and making holocaust comparisons have made them hated by quite a large part of the Dutch public. This is visible in the elections where the BBB's 'adversaries' (the coalition parties, the left parties and several small opposition parties) actually have quite a majority over the BBB and it's 'allies' in both the senate and the house of representatives. Edit: removed a part since it was outdated information

[@res6148]

Everything is better then the coalition and the Rutte regime to me at this point.

[@jfbrycn8628]

Really clear and concise summary, even though I live there this is the best understanding I've had of the issue! Really good reporting.

[@mr.nobody1081]

Too bad he never mentions the fact that Rutte is an errand boy for the WEF

[@jakeglenn2246]

This NAZI needs to be prosecuted for treason and jailed for life.

[@bapo224]

It's important to note that the BBB only has 1 seat in parliament ("tweede kamer"). So while they will be biggest by far in senate it would still be practically impossible for them to govern.

[@jevinliu4658]

Wait for 2025 maybe

[@TheBooban]

They just need to ally themselves with right wing parties.

[@PbPomper]

@@jevinliu4658 We'll see. It was a perfect storm for BBB, but I expect different results for the second chamber (the one that actually matters).

[@giantWario]

Well yeah but they had only been created a year and a half before the last parliamentary election so this doesn't mean much. If they keep that percentage of the vote for the next general election two years from now or even improve it further, they are gonna be able to govern quite easily. Now of course, a lot of things can change in two years so unless a snap election is called, I really wouldn't count Teflon Mark out yet.

[@bellateef]

Let's hope so

[@diemme568]

as an Italian: if it hadn't been for the internet, we'd have heard nothing about it in the news, amazing, isn't it!

[@Leadstar1212]

Very well done guys! I am looking forward to your analysis of the upcoming elections next week in Bulgaria. The anti-corruption and anti-Borisov coalition have increased with several parties entering the scene. It is important to note that like in the Netherlands even the farmers' agricultural parties are stepping in (BZNS) and United Agricultuers to give their support to Vasilev and Petkov on their anti corruption/ anti Borisov/ coalition on condition that the state will help the middle and low range farmers to increase their competitive advantage in the market. Currently, Asen Vasilev and Kiril Petkov are leading the biggest known coalition of parties in Bulgaria it comprises :We continue the change, Democratic Bulgaria which is a coalition of YES Bulgaria and Democratic Union for Bulgaria, Boec, BZNS, United Agricultures and some other movements.

[@mr.nobody1081]

Too bad he never mentions the fact that Rutte is an errand boy for the WEF

[@alainhofman3894]

Very good job explaining the situation in the Netherlands. One little detail though, the election was held last Wednesday, not Thursday.

[@jakeglenn2246]

This NAZI needs to be prosecuted for treason and jailed for life.

[@wendywolfman]

They always get little details like that incorrect on this channel lol.

[@ksoosk]

Another little wrong detail: the title. It should be big agro-empires winning local election, not cattle farmers.

[@jakeglenn2246]

@@ksoosk Where is the proof?

[@stevenwilson5556]

@@jakeglenn2246 There's none. Sounds like a lefty who wants everyone to starve to death

[@maxwellbrigitha]

actually the Kingdom of the Netherlands did not have a regional election. The Netherlands did. The kingdom of the Netherlands consist of 3 other island Nations, my home island of Curaçao, Aruba and St. Maarten. they did not have an election that day.

[@JackDSquat]

🤓

[@renzowessels505]

@Maxwell Brigitta that's actually incorrect. The other nations within the Kingdom of the Netherlands had island council and Senatorial electoral college election

[@maxwellbrigitha]

@@renzowessels505 I think you mean the islands of Bonaire, Saba and Statia that are part of Netherlands proper as oversee provinces. Then you are correct. However I refer to Curaçao, Aruba and St. Maarten who are not part of the Netherlands but are part of the Kingdom. I should know, I am from Curaçao.

[@user-ke8hx5rr3j]

Well-done farmers!!! We are so proud of you for standing up against this sheer madness !❤

[@Lefaid]

Thank you for releasing this video. I had been ignoring this channel for a while because it seemed like EU news was Ukraine news for a while. I see you all are branching out more so I am happy to resubscribe.

[@carstengrooten3686]

This video sums up everything pretty nicely. I would like to add that although the BBB got a huge victory, this does not guarantee their rise in Dutch politics or anyone elses fall. 4 years ago the FvD surprised everyone by becoming the largest party in the 'senate', but their influence over Dutch politics never became that big and they soon collapsed in on themselves as in the parliamental elections 2 years ago they fared far less well. Considering no one, incuding the party itself, expected the BBB to get more than 10 seats, filling 16 of them is a difficult task for a party only founded in 2019 and there likely will be some inexperienced personel taking on important jobs. So, despite Rutte becoming decreasingly popular, he might stay for while (again).

[@jamesgrover2005]

I felt it was missing some important information, farmers are free to produce our crops but NL has way too many animals pissing and shitting in a small area, most for export, this destroys our local environment in the name of profit for multinationals. The protests are bankrolled by the agroindustry that profits most from this animal agriculture, Dairy, Meat, the feed, and the machinery for the process. 2% of the population are farmers and you can bet regenerative farmers didn't vote for the BBB, it is a protest vote cleverly manipulated by an industry to protect its massive profits.

[@StratosTitan]

@@jamesgrover2005 You're spot on. The indsutry holds enormous power even over before the BBB, now this will only be worse, shame to see so many people misled easily into voting for this.

[@battragon]

Fingers crossed.

[@battragon]

@@StratosTitan Yes.

[@nerolowell2320]

@@jamesgrover2005 it doesnt matter if the protest was manipulated by the large industry or the farmer, as long as there is strong resistance against the WEF/UN Agenda 2030 unless you and many other people like you want to eat bugs, crickets and worms burgers for the rest of your life

[@acertainfruit]

The election was on Wednesday the 15th of March, not Thursday.

[@Amyante]

To clarify here, Rutte is incredibly pro-Europe, and a lot of people believe he is perfectly willing to sacrifice the country if it means looking good in the EU. Keep in mind, the Netherlands' agricultural exports last year amounted to over 120 billion euros, and now Rutte wants (to use the video's numbers) to close down a third of all farms here. There was bound to come a point where farmers (and people depending on them economically in the supply chain) would have had enough, and this is the result.

[@res6148]

Im pretty sure that if the EU asked Rutte to kill all of us to reduce emissions and offered him a seat, he wouldn’t hesitate. Hes also forcing us to abandon our culture and what it means to be Dutch. Not only this but he seems to be trying to make us dependent on the EU which is a scary concept to me. I am from Friesland and it’s also pretty obvious to me that everything that isn’t north holland is dead to him.

[@bigboy7927]

It's always good to see a country getting out of a RUT.

[@nielsrosink5051]

Spot on video. As a Dutchman I can confirm everything you say! 👍

[@07_sev52]

Dat pronunciation of boer burger beweging though...

[@Omega24V]

Nee jong! 1. BBB heeft 17 zetels en geen 16 2. De bewering dat de boeren de politie zouden hebben aangevallen is een leugen! 3. De coalitie en GL/PVDA hebben nog steeds de meerderheid in de 1e kamer! Ergo: Er gaat zich NIKS veranderen!

[@boppanarajach]

Your country is 30% racist?

[@doranzyovalentijn5353]

BBB is literally green, left wing and pro gouvernment. This whole video is pure shit. This guy thinks that just because BBB says something that it is automatically true. Only way forward is to vote Forum For Democracy (FVD).

[@Jesus420.69]

Honestly if it wasn’t for TLDR, I would know nothing about this.

[@LordSandwich17]

Good video! As a slight remark that doesn't matter to the point of the video, I'd like to point out that the King is only officially the head of the Raad van State. They do not take part in deliberations and the only time they set foot in the actual building is for ceremonial actions. The vice-president of the Raad is the actual head of the council.

[@jarnodatema]

I’m Dutch and I didn’t even know the BBB existed until the voting results were in 😂

[@janwillemnl]

Dus je leeft onder en steen

[@emmanouilachladiotis5272]

Niks gehoord over BBB in de UK. Maar ik kijk ook geen nieuws. Allemaal van het systeem

[@truongsinh9955]

@@emmanouilachladiotis5272 I love my home country but for once, I wish I was Dutch so that I could vote and show my support to the BBB. You really have no idea how big this victory of the BBB is. It gives hope to so many populations in other countries to stand up and fight back the oppressive government, where in this case, your Mark Rutte is a puppet of the WEF, which wants to turn Earth into a totalitarian state. In many places of the world, a citizen's vote doesn't make a difference. That is not the case in the Netherlands. I've visited your country and seen its greatness and beauty. Don't waste this opportunity to vote and to preserve and honor your ancestors' legacy.

[@f-86zoomer37]

That's because they're just a fad. They'll hopefully disappear next election. Luckily, the anti climate and anti science far right fascists didn't get enough seats to ram their fascist agenda through.

[@gio3061]

It is not the end for Rutte, he already forgot the results

[@methos4866]

He doesn't have an active memory about it 🙃

[@SteefHartman]

@@methos4866 shocking he didn't lose the receipt of the vote counters

[@jakeglenn2246]

gio- This NAZI needs to be prosecuted for treason and jailed for life.

[@KhaalixD]

Wow! This video was so informative and engaging. I learned a lot about the Dutch electoral system and the recent election results. The video explained the context and the implications of the vote very clearly and concisely. I was especially impressed by how the new farmer party managed to win so many seats in such a short time. This video was definitely worth watching and I recommend it to anyone who is interested in Dutch politics or European affairs. Thank you for making this video and keep up the good work!

[@casper8464]

albeit a bit more decent, but in concept it is basically a middle finger to the ruling parties.

[@oscarvanlaar6043]

You write like chat gpt

[@KhaalixD]

@@oscarvanlaar6043 the comment was indeed written by GPT4 after being provided with the transcript :p

[@oscarvanlaar6043]

Haahah no way that is great

[@doranzyovalentijn5353]

BBB is literally green, left wing and pro gouvernment. This whole video is pure shit. This guy thinks that just because BBB says something that it is automatically true. Only way forward is to vote Forum For Democracy (FVD).

[@DutchGamingPieces]

Great video, but I am missing the part where: 1. The nitrogen laws aren't Rutte or the government's idea's. It mostly all comes from the EU. 2. The goals that the BBB set, are unrealistic because of: The EU. We need to scale down and farmers are the biggest polluters in our country. The only way to not scale down is stepping out of the EU, and that will never happen because of the rich subsidies we get from the EU for farmers.

[@frannypalmer2726]

Congratulations and much love from people in America!!! Keep up the good work and kick the rest of the scoundrels out of office!

[@killhimnotme9129]

Bbb is absolutely horseshit. Its not a good thing

[@kevinbot1314]

A thing to note is that it's stated that the BBB is anti-green. But it is rather in favour of renewable energy as it lessens the burden on farmers. Just not on farmland or fishing pastures. More on roofs for example and de-contreteting the cities and towns. And they're pro-nuclear, as opposed to the green party. Which is ironically more green than the green party.

[@platoprato1593]

They are in lockstep with parlement about the 2030 agenda... It's build back better party xD

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

Anything that is pro-beef _is_ anti-green. Inherently. It's a massively wasteful, polluting and fundamentally unnecessary way to produce food, even in comparison to other types of meat. I get farmers wanting to preserve their livelihoods, but calling it green is false - you could produce the same amount of food over a small portion of the land area, rewild the rest, and it'd be a win for everyone and everything _except_ the beef farmers.

[@advancedomega]

@@merrymachiavelli2041 "It's a massively wasteful, polluting and fundamentally unnecessary way to produce food, even in comparison to other types of meat. I get farmers wanted to preserve their livelihoods, but they are deluding themselves." You know what is wasteful? Making food creation more difficult and more expensive ahead of inflation.

[@remc0s]

As long as they are realists. Better realists than globalists.

[@remc0s]

@@merrymachiavelli2041 Animals live in the wild and eat other animals. Are they a burden on the planet? No. So why would livestock being eaten by humans be a burden on the planet?

[@maxymvandenbogaert8345]

Love your prononciations of the politcal parties

[@everythingsfine3064]

thanks for objective news.

[@mike-rd3ow]

One very important thing that is left out, the BBB is in all provinces the biggest party but in like Drenthe (as shown) they have 30%+ votes. They can easily not implement what the government want because the provinces have to implement the rules but if they refuse (which BBB said they would) the government can make a law/some kind of arrangement but it won’t be implemented meaning that the country will stall. And probably when this happens new elections for the parlement will be held.

[@BlooFinguhz]

Knowing Rutte's past tendency to cling to power and the electoral danger for the coalition partners I do not think we will see a new election for the lower chamber anytime soon.

[@jesperPLZ]

The problem for the government is that even if they pass laws through the left (and Rutte has been in a coalition with Labour before so that won’t be a surprise). The task of actually implementing these measures lies with the provincial governments, who will all be led by a BBB coalition, who stated before that they will outright refuse to implement things as forced buyouts. So it’s kind of BBB’s way or the highway at this point

[@merenwen4495]

So nothing will be achieved in the next 4 years. Congratulations. All these people voting for these populist parties because they are against the government are the worst. Especially since they are the soul reason everything stays the same and nothing ever gets done.

[@sportysp]

Then it is exactly the problem for the Netherlands. As BBB cannot propose any legislation themselves and can only oppose. Great to see another great mess up in Dutch politics. Discontent is quite normal and regular and typically every new party fails when it needs to govern

[@HarhanDerMann]

Which is something BBB just can't keep doing. Espescially with the EU regulations also needing us to reduce our nitrogen output, BBB is going to have to greatly dissapoint their voters because they can't stop what is already happening.

[@jesperPLZ]

@@HarhanDerMann not entirely correct because the word “nitrogen” is never even mentioned once in European legislation about this issue. So that is something that we decided ourselves

[@albertinsinger7443]

EU sets farm policy for the whole EU. So the fight will be between BBB and EU in Brussels.

[@damienkeijzer2954]

As a dutchie I'm not particurlarly glad with this outcome honestly.

[@koya5001]

*Wednesday* our elections are traditionally held on Wednesdays, no idea what the history is behind the voting day. But it has always been on Wednesdays. 🙃 I am guessing some Dutchmen already mentioned this in the comments prior to my comment. But just in case you’ve missed it. ;) 😅

[@donamills863]

Funny, in America they are always held on Tuesdays. When the bulk of the presidential primaries take place, it is called Super Tuesday

[@emielsilverentand5175]

Technically it's not the kingdom of the Netherlands but the Netherlands who elect it since the Kingdom also contains some former colonies.

[@Quintinohthree]

It should be noted that the Netherlands also includes three of the six former colonies and those also elected local Island Councils as well as electoral colleges and along with Dutch citizens living abroad electing a new fourth electoral college, those electoral colleges will in turn vote for the First Chamber exactly like the 12 Estates Provincial.

[@LOL-ev8ft]

You must be the life of the party.

[@PauldeVrieze]

Please note that the "raad van state" (council of the state) is actually two separate functions under one name: an advisory body and the highest judicial body for public law. It is in this second function that the nitrogen decision was made.

[@joeking1019]

where lawmakers suddenly become chemists

[@qweriop]

One thing I would like to point out is that the plans to eliminate so much livestock, didn't directly start the farmer protests. It was the massive farming corporations that would be losing the most money, which they of course didn't want to happen. The major corporations started financing the "Farmers Defence Force", the farmers that weren't happy with the government. The big corporations never speak about things like this. When (if I remember correctly) someone from "Friesland Campina" was invited to "Nieuwsuur" (a program by the public broadcaster that is infamous for being extremely critical), they declined the invitation because: "The farmers are fighting and need to be heard." Which is of course total nonsense. They want the farmers fighting for their cause, and if they would get the scrutiny they deserve, the farmers wouldn't be supported this much. I think it's scary that the biggest party in the Netherlands is basically a lobbyist group for corporate.

[@RadicalizedRadical]

And it’s still better than the opposition. Imagine how destructive your left wing party is for your people and economy. Lmao

[@huigverstraten415]

The footage of the BBB was not shooted in Den Bosch but in Deventer

[@zerellix]

We have a huge problem in the Netherlands. We simply have to much farmers on to little ground here. After the USA we are the largest exporter of food. And we are near the bottom of landmass in the world. Our soil is dead. We have 70% less insects in the Netherlands than we did 20 years ago. We are in dire need of more forest and less pollution. This is not sustainable. In 15 years we will see major diminishing returns.

[@A-world-of-My-Own]

My God the world is flat? In NL around 17% of the country's current land area has been reclaimed from the sea or lakes. You are one of the greenest and most productive countries in Europe. You want stop all this and import food at great cost? Strange.

[@halihalo4024]

If all farms in the Netherlands disappeared in the Netherlands tomorrow, they would still have a nitrogen crisis. It is an illusion to think that without farms their wouldn’t be a nitrogen crisis.

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

Maybe the farmers will be happy

[@tomhill3262]

You always get one negative numnut

[@zerellix]

@@A-world-of-My-Own Welp.. The Netherlands is flat.. On that your right. Claim your own land from the sea. Or convert 54% of your countries landmass to farms. The only plant that grows here without fertilizer is grass. Do some research and you wil find it is a countrywide disaster..

[@sanderdeboer6034]

The farmers we are talking about are actually more like large meat factories. The Netherlands is a huge importer of soybeans mostly from Brasil, to feed its insanely large animal stockpile. 1.5 million cows, 11 million pigs, 100 million chickens, 1 million sheep. A large part of the Amazon rain forest has been destroyed to grow these soy beans to feed our livestock. And these animals produce high amounts of manure, which has been a problem for decades now in the Netherlands. The BBB is partly sponsored by large agricultural corporations who supply the animal feed, machines to operate the farms and all kinds of services. Like ForFarmers who produced 3.3 Billion euros last year. They are known to also aid the protesters, and even hired an agency to plan all of the protest, do marketing for it, and arrange the entre organization of the protest. So we are mostly talking about farms with thousands of animals, that not only produce harmful toxins for the environment but also emit large amounts of ‘fijnstof’ or particulate matter that creates health problems for humans on the farms and its surroundings. In some rural areas the ‘fijnstof’ emissions are higher than in large cities with lots of car traffic. This causes respiratory issues and even higher rates of cancer. So we are not talking about the old fashion idea of farming, with some chickens running around, several pigs rolling around in the mud and some cows in the meadow. These are industrial size farms that pollute often more than modern factories. The Netherlands has been the second largest agricultural exporter in the world for years now, right behind the USA. While being 220 times smaller in landsize. To be fair, this is partly caused by the export from Rotterdam harbour. But even if you take that into account, the Netherlands is still an agricultural powerhouse. Dutch farmers are the most productive in the world, but that comes with a huge price for the environment. What the government is proposing is to buyout the farmers with high emissions close to nature reserves. I understand this has a huge impact on the farmers effected by this, and maybe we need to look at alternatives. Like setting up a fund to allow these farmers to transform to sustainable farming. But what the government is doing is required by law, both national and from the EU. (Voted for by the Netherlands itself)

[@baronvonjo1929]

If you got rid of a huge chunk of all this foreign stuff wouldn't prices for these products go up? What's going to replace all this?

[@JaegerDreadful]

​@@baronvonjo1929 other food sources that are much more efficient. But no, people get all emotional about their piece of meat and can't think clearly anymore.

[@War4Skills]

Yes, and what about the economy of the Netherlands? What about the great reduction of food production? What about stop comparing apples to oranges when it comes to nitrogen levels from the Netherlands, a highly desnily populated country producing a IMMENSE amount of food for the rest of the world compared to a much bigger less populated country like Poland?

[@JayForsure]

Thank you for acknowledging the Amazon Rain forest. It's so sad seeing massive, size of football fields getting burned everyday. And all that smoke affects us and our air quality. Also, they NEED to use so many pesticides (Some of which are literally banned in the whole of EU because they're extremely harmful to people) to keep up with demand of those dam soybeans. It's gotten so bad that the pesticides leak into our tap water even into Sao Paulo. It got tested and found around 22 different pesticides. But ultimately we as humans NEED the Amazon rain forest, it's essential to keep weather patterns consistent for everyone around the globe.

[@BrianHuis]

​@@JaegerDreadful this is such an un-informed straw man argument. Replacing all food lost by canning meat with the beloved greens would require fast swaths of new farmland which in turn destroys local ecosystems not to mention threaten many species of small animals. The whole 'just replace it with veggies and fruit' argument is extremely shortsighted. The answer as always lies in the middle. A sensible reduction to meet the climate quota and an investment in technology that can help elleviate these problems in the future. But alas people vote emotionally not logically and now we have a party that lives in a fairy tale winning. Its not surprising, people prefer stagnation over change.

[@Youtubechannel-po8cz]

Good on our Dutch and French citizens for making a stand against big Government and business. 🇳🇱🇫🇷🇬🇧

[@chrisbacos]

I got a lesson in Dutch civics. Thanks. What you said about the majority in both chambers is also how the US Congress works too.

[@doranzyovalentijn5353]

BBB is literally green, left wing and pro gouvernment. This whole video is pure shit. This guy thinks that just because BBB says something that it is automatically true. Only way forward is to vote Forum For Democracy (FVD).

[@ari54x]

Given TLDR's long standing misunderstandings of PR systems, I guess I shouldn't be surprised you didn't spot the difference between the Netherlands' 'win your first seat outright' threshold and no threshold at all. PR systems allow you to 'round up' to a seat, so this is actually a material difference.

[@j.k2126]

Nothing will change.....we have to deal with this kind People already for many years.

[@TomlegoProductions]

Quick addition: the Council of State consists of two Departments, one of which is the advisory organ described in the video, the other is an administrative court. It's the judicial department that judged the Dutch nitrogen emission policy was insufficient, not the advisory department. Also, nitrogen emissions policies are based on EU law, not Dutch law

[@davidmckeown9936]

This is such a huge victory for all who value freedom. Respect from the UK and God bless all Dutch Patriots.

[@jgmdewilde]

👍👍👍👍😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤thank,s I,m so happy...and say goodbye to traitor mark rutte!

[@davidmckeown9936]

@@jgmdewildeit's really wonderful, I can feel your happiness, mate. I hope we can achieve the same in the UK but most people are overweight and passive here. God bless you all and good luck to The Netherlands.

[@jgmdewilde]

@@davidmckeown9936 👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤that,s very sweet of you...May God bless you and the UK....!

[@wardskidoedels512]

I salute you for trying to pronounce Boeren Burger Beweging.

[@spartanx9293]

The translation didn't work it's the farmers burgers movement

[@wardskidoedels512]

@@spartanx9293 burger is citizen in English.

[@spartanx9293]

@@wardskidoedels512 I know but the translation was funny

[@HXT_916]

The UK could really do well to follow the Dutch Election Model. We badly need constitutional reform in this country.

[@HansWurst1569]

Yeah nah, this is not that good. We now have 2 different coalitions in the two different houses of government. Right now we basicaly have one side of the room able to make and propose changes and implement them and the second one who can just say yay or nay on the implementation. It halts all progress

[@johnwilson5637]

We don't need Constitutional reform. What we do need is Constitutional Lawyers to sue the Government for creating Laws designed to change our Constitution without the consent (ie referendum) of the people.

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

@@HansWurst1569 As opposed to what, killing the entire farming industry in the Netherlands? Farmers are the lifeblood of the country, without them you have to import literally everything

[@equipbasicsword]

@@HansWurst1569 In the UK you either have Tory, or Labour. Whilst you could vote for other parties, their chances of getting in power are minimal. On top of that, in the UK a party could have a majority whilst not actually getting the majority of votes. So whilst the Dutch electoral model isn't perfect and has its flaws, it is miles better than the UK one.

[@HansWurst1569]

@@mrcaboosevg6089 I mean you either dont understand anything about this problem, besides having watched a youtube video or two, or you’re just stupid but my comment had nothing to do with that.

[@bastaardzmuller]

Do not under estimate Teflon Rutte 😁 he’ll fix it easily with a beautiful Dutch compromise like he always does.

[@kurt1391]

No mention of Tristate City? A lot of investors are putting together a lot of money for this project and they need land, but I'm sure the Dutch land grab has nothing to do with money.

[@whoknows8225]

The "stikstof" (nitrogen) law may be pushed thru, but don't forget that in all the provincial governments BBB is the largest... and it's the provincial governments that have to roll out the forced shutting down of the farmers.

[@cykablin1104]

Hebben we toch geluk dat het een "must" is en provinciale overheden er inprincipe niks over te zeggen hebben en het gewoon moeten uitvoeren

[@cihancanatan6749]

@@cykablin1104 geluk? Clown.

[@tomsmits259]

(As a Dutch person) I don't see that much changing. This isn't the first time something similar has happened

[@Beun007]

Right!

[@whoknows8225]

i agree, i don't see anything will be able to change.. WEF has it's grab on us for years already.. it's waaaaaaaaaaay too late to do anything to stop it.

[@thomasprent2179]

precisely; the BBB will fall just as the FVD did

[@thedutchgamelife6264]

@@thomasprent2179 LPF, FVD and BBB all have one thing in common: populism. its only fitting the BBB will fall, as most people dont even know what they voted for (again)

[@RoelBruggink]

Please note that it is not "Rutte's plan" or "Rutte's intentions". We all have known for decades that this would become a problem. Farmers have know for decades as well, but they just play innocent. There's way more to do, though.

[@infj4w511]

Turns out you were right! Rutte's coalition failed

[@lolicantthinkofabettername3437]

The root cause of Forum for Democracy losing so badly is that their party leader became a conspiracy theorist. 4 years ago during the last regional election he was quite bog standard rightwing. His decent into madness caused many party members that occupied seats in the senate and regional councils to break off and form their own political parties. This splitting of and mainly his decent into madness led to them getting decimated at these elections. A lot can happen to a person during covid apperently.

[@tijmen5355]

His descent to madness is crazy

[@serza7254]

BBB is sponsored by Bayer/Monsanto (GMO). Look the director named Annemieke Tromp of the BBB. She works for Alfa accountants and advisors and that business supports the 2030 agenda. Then if you look into the marketing company of the BBB named ReMarkAble is a customer of the Bayer/monsanto gmo's. The founder and owner of ReMarkAble are Wim Groot and Henk Vermeer and those 2 people are secretary and vice director of the BBB and also the adress of the KvK of BBB is the same adress as Bayer/Monsanto their Dutch location. The only real political party that is here for the farmers are BVNL and FVD. (BBB stands for Build Back Better) and is a false "hero". They have to show colour now so i guess people wake up soon. My flag keeps hanging at blue white red, as we are still in danger as farmers.

[@orktv4673]

While I agree with your assessment, I only hope it's actually the case that that's why voters left FvD. I think many don't notice or care, and if BBB should collapse FvD might gets seats back.

[@charlesponzi9608]

I admire a politician who is willing to say what he or she truly thinks rather than one whose words are shaped by opinion polls. We need people to speak out and question official narratives. Conspiracy theories should be openly discussed and debated in public. The fact that opposing views are silenced or censored only makes conspiracy theories more attractive. Is it any wonder that millions of people like myself have completely lost trust in government and now see it as a form of mind control? My trust in journalists along with politicians and bankers is at an all time low. Thierry Baudet and Gideon van Meijeren will never be right about everything all the time, but I never get the feeling that they are intentionally lying to me--unlike Mark Rutte and Sigrid Kaag. I fear that Caroline van der Plas is just another wolf in sheep clothing. BBB's position on climate policy is downright ambiguous. The party wants to terminate the national climate agreement, to replace it immediately with a climate agreement that is more realistic. The same destination, but via a different route.

[@tijmen5355]

@@charlesponzi9608 conspiracies are talked about regularly. They just dont belong in Parliament. And you should not be sure Thierry is saying what he believes. He could just be saying what you want to hear.

[@mylenekruger9222]

While we are still waiting for oversea votes, it appears that the current coalition + the green parties will also not make a majority, giving the BBB 16 or 17 votes and the current coalition a minority, meaning they would have to find yet another party to work with to make their policies happen.

[@dennisd9875]

Overseas voting excluded BBB, they were literally not on the stembiljet

[@hans7856]

​@@dennisd9875 The foreign votes may still take a seat away from the coalition or Groenlinks/PvdA, which would mean they get 37 seats together. That's not a majority. That seat would probably not go to BBB then, but to another party that Dutch abroad voted for. But it would mean that the coalition can only get a majority with BBB, or work with multiple parties to get a majority.

[@mariannesartcorner]

I literally just only watched to hear how you would pronounce the "boer burger beweging" and I am not disappointed at all

[@Joey-ct8bm]

Farmers!? Citizens? The agriculture lobby! The agricultural lobby fully paid and founded the BBB. It wasn't farmers or citizens who started the BBB and it certainly wasn't a movement.

[@MyILoveMinecraft]

As somebody from a rural region right on the border, kudos to them. I took part in the farmers protests right across the border as curtesy since they do the same for us, the energy was amazing and I hope we can get the same energy here in Germany, sadly we are missing a party to represent us

[@sogghartha]

maybe the AfD ? the BBB is also supported by the extreme right so..

[@MyILoveMinecraft]

@@sogghartha absolutely not. They are the same shit as the greens, just the other side of the coin. Bunch of populists, business owners sons and other Gesindel. I personally put my vote behind indipentent candidate's often, freie Wähler is an upstart party which could become something decent. And maybe right but not far right. My experience was that most people walked away when their mini trump showed up for example

[@joeyleeuwestein7133]

​@@soggharthaThe BBB is also supported by former SP and PvdA voters. So what? You confuse disagreement with foul intent.

[@larsvanzijl1060]

Why the fuck did you involve yourself with local Dutch matters? They are quite literally none of your business.

[@thierryparte2506]

Yes it's true we elect our own water boarders, torture is a serious thing thank god we have democracy to keep it in check

[@johandevaraan5266]

0:53 Ah ja natuurlijk, ik heb ook gestemd voor de boeuew beheuer beweving

[@RBRT02]

BBB got offered all problems and said: double it and give it to the next person.

[@Captain_Cinnamon]

Not really. We have no evidence that climate change is even solvable by human intervention. We only influence the accellaration of it but not whether it happens or not. And thats why BBB got so many votes. The green parties are crusading hard on things that may not even be solvable but which are very impactful on people.

[@ronaldderooij1774]

One correction: The Council of State has two independent parts. The advisory body for the government (officially headed by the King, but the King is not supposed to have any input) and the supreme court for administrative matters. Yes, the Netherlands has two supreme courts, one for punishment and civil affairs and one for administrative affairs. The latter has ruled that the government is legally bound by European law to limit nitrogen (the EU Nitrogen Directive) and uphold the quality of ecosystems in Natura 2000 areas enshrined in the EU Habitats directive. The EU Commission gave the Netherlands a derogation not to comply with the Nitrogen directive for more than a dozen years, but said, we won't do that anymore as there is no progress. So, the Council of State court had no other possibility than to say that any new nitrogen emission must fit into the current environmental quality. As a consequence, it is very hard to build houses, or for farmers to grow. They should even be removed or go to green farming when close to a Natura 2000 area. As you can see, there is no way the Farmer Citizen Party can change that without being fined by the EU high court for non-compliance with the Habitat directive and the Nitrogen directive. So, it is harsh, but the farmers (and industry, and cars, shipping, and aviation, etc) will have to comply, whoever is in power.

[@hazelpino7391]

Actually, The Netherlands has four supreme courts: - Hoge Raad: civil, criminal and tax law; - Afdeling Bestuursrechtspraak van de Raad van State: general administrative law, environmental law, asylum law; - Centrale Raad van Beroep: social security law; - College van Beroep voor het bedrijfsleven: economic administrative law.

[@ronaldderooij1774]

@@hazelpino7391 You'r right, and I thought 2 was already many!

[@gertscheper9653]

@@ronaldderooij1774 you are spot on sir.

[@brandonbeedle5278]

Or they could just tell the EU to pound sand.

[@ronaldderooij1774]

@@brandonbeedle5278 A war is going on in Ukraine to uphold the rule of international law, and I get comments like this. It is so sad.

[@tomasbos6309]

The end for Rutte? I wish, young Padawan, I wish...

[@atticgamer3134]

u made a better video than the dutch about this ty mate

[@salobrena6442]

fantastic!!!

[@venepskeuten9206]

I expected the bbb party to do well with the whole "stikstof" fiasco, but such a landslide victory was unexpected. If it does spell the end for Rutte I'm fine with that. Dude did his job and he did it well, but clearly the government has started to stagnate after like 11 years rutte or so and some change is needed. Personally I wanted to vote volt as they seem pretty cool, but I forgot there were elections last Wednesday💀. Still all the power to any party that isn't forum for democracy 🗿

[@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva]

>voting for a party that wants Europe to turn into one big federalist state where no power is left to the invidual countries *Good thing you forgot to vote.*

[@someguy872]

Did it well? no, he caused the suffering of millions of people. He did not do it well.

[@brianfrommars]

@@someguy872 ? The Netherlands is one of the best places to live on the planet.

[@HD_HerpDerp]

@@brianfrommars It is, but you can't deny that its been getting worse in many areas. The housing crisis has gotten so out of control most starters will be renting for decades, and going to a non-local college is completely inaccessible to the lower classes. 20-30 year olds are having to move back in with their parents. Almost all our important jobs in areas like education, police, public transit are overworked, underpaid and lack proper training. A focus on higher education has left us with a severe shortage of skilled laborers while society as a whole still looks down on them. A whole generation of students is stuck with massive depth. Integration policies only help to create more division. Right-wing extremism is on the rise, and finally a whole swath of the population is willingly supporting the corporate farmers that are not only raping our land for their own benefit, but act as if they're somehow an oppressed class when they're asked to take responsibility for their greed after decades of monopolizing agricultural and ecological legislation.

[@brianfrommars]

@@HD_HerpDerp Virtually none of those issues you’ve mentioned are unique to the Netherlands in any capacity. Every Left-Liberal nation is seeing price-of-living raise rapidly, yet quality of life is not plummeting like you may suggest. All things considered the Netherlands has been doing quite well for themselves over this past decade.

[@DrSeastorm]

I think it's worth mentioning that we can assume a similar thing might happen to BBB as what happened to the FVD, a smaller party winning a large amount of under prepared regional politicians will create lots of in-fighting and splitsing off. The FVD lead to several new parties in under 2 years for the represantatives election

[@ynzevelema1858]

Let's not forget that the FvD fell apart due to a power struggle in the party top. The BBB leader does not seem likely to do the same thing the FvD leader did.

[@denzellmovies]

@@ynzevelema1858 I don't know about that. Caroline van der Plas seems like a complete idiot to me

[@connieschuiling979]

Monsanto Caroline, is a agenda 2030 bot. People fell for the easy solution, and now they can suffer for it! Fvd was the real alternative, that is why they were so infiltrated, demonished by the far left marxist media. Fvd riight now is smaller because they got rid of the corruption and opportunist within.

[@YgramNolles]

​@@ynzevelema1858BBB does have the advantage of having a leader that isn't completly bad-shit insane

[@williamsherman1942]

@@YgramNollesShe’s a casual citizen in-fact, some accuse her of populism

[@MonkMovies]

Aah okay thanks, I knew I had no clue what was going on in my own country

[@gideonhorwitz9434]

Never bite the hand that feeds you literally

[@joeribaars5481]

as a very left-leaning dutch guy i like that Rutte got his asshandeled on a platter. i dislike the fact that BBB got so much votes, i voted SP and while they didn't do as bad as the coalition parties we still got a hit, as an opposition you need to be the voice of the people and according to the votes we (the SP) were not that voice so it means we need to better listen to the people.

[@denzellmovies]

you need to be the voice of the people, but you shouldn't feed into anti-science rethoric like the BBB

[@dwi2921]

Unfortunately there are very few left wing parties that represent farmers. And those that do are not in the west.

[@orktv4673]

What left wing party do you envision that BBB voters would actually vote for?

[@joeribaars5481]

@@orktv4673 BBB votes are all or mostly votes against the coalition, against the status quo , the SP should be the answer but we became part of the status quo part of the establishment or at least people think we are.

[@dwi2921]

@@orktv4673 That's the point. They won't. Perhaps 30 years ago, but the urban/rural has become to sharp over the years (even in my home country of Canada) that there is basically no shot of things ever going back to where they were. Left parties have been so focused on urban issues that they have forgotten the other half of the population. Forcing already mildly conservative (but otherwise reasonable) people towards extreme politics. It not hard to reach farmers, ranchers and other rural types. As evidenced by BBB just throwing out some mildly populist rhetoric. Granted I can't speak to what Netherland farms would want. There was a time in my country where the ONLY pro rural party was a socialist/cooperativeist one. Sadly they (much like the Liberals and to a certain degree the conservatives) have gone full urbanite. Forcing our rural folk straight in to the arms of neo-fascists.

[@mastomax]

I'm from Italy and alot of Italians especially younger than me go in nederland for job because i think in Europe Is the country most cultural and for young people

[@jonsmith5058]

True, but not very material to the conversation no?

[@mastomax]

@@jonsmith5058 i think yes because the right party farmer can be against some european values shared by each member state

[@jonsmith5058]

@@mastomax oh you are trying to connect them with being Euroskeptic? Hmm maybe, but I think thats a vague connection. They are a long way off from trying to limit free movement.

[@MeijerMovies]

There actually is a threshold of 1 seat. Otherwise it would be possible to get a "restzetel"

[@danieltjuh377]

As a Dutchman, nothing will change.

[@mcmeyer1785]

I'm Dutch and from the Northeast. I don't agree with many BBB points, but voting for them did cross my mind. I'm pro EU and something farming related should happen, but I'm so fucking happy that everyone showed that the way this was done doesn't work and doesn't respect people.

[@Dutchwheelchair]

the big meat and livestock food companies are so happy right now. This what they wanted.

[@baukepoelsma]

"Boehr burweh bewewe" party is what you said sounded like to a dutchman instead of "boer burger beweging" 🤣 (i know espescially the dutch g is really to pronounce)

[@lukasriessen9577]

@tldr the vote was actually on Wednesday

[@HermanDuyker]

It's interesting how your shots of cows all show cows outside in the countryside (or even on a mountainside... NL is FLAT :D ). Most cows (and most nitrogen production) occurs when the cows are inside, where their droppings and urine combine to create ammonia, which is one of causes of those nitrogen problems.

[@OldieBugger]

Don't bother to call any politician a populist. They all are, it's how they get elected.

[@ronaldonmg]

No. populism is defined as harping on the struggle between the "good" people ("people" defined any way the populist deems convenient) and the "corrupt" elite. FvD is a textbook-example, as they openly state that they want to replace the elite with another elite. The PVV doesn't even have members (...)

[@BLD426]

Some common sense in the Netherlands. Go farmer citizens!!

[@doranzyovalentijn5353]

BBB is literally green, left wing and pro gouvernment. This whole video is pure shit. This guy thinks that just because BBB says something that it is automatically true. Only way forward is to vote Forum For Democracy (FVD).

[@pauledwards5954]

This needs too happen around global rid this world of these corrupt governments