The Dutch Railways just got new trains and they’re AMAZING

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@mavadelo
@mavadelo Жыл бұрын
Fun fact. Many Dutch trains have a nickname. We had the Hondenkop (Doghead, Mat'54), the Apekop (monkeyhead, Mat'64), the Buffel (Buffalo, DM90). the Blauwe Engel (The Blue Angel, DE1 and DE2) and this one was voted by the public to be called the Wesp (the Wasp)
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
Mat '54 is called Hondekop, without the second 'n', because the name was set before the spelling reform. There's also the Bison, which is the DD-IRM/VIRM; the backbone of the intercity network. Plan Y is the Sprinter (which now has become the name for local trains); Plan Z is the Koploper (it's a pun; literally, it means Frontrunner, but it also refers that you could walk through the head (kop) to another train). Plan U (DE3) was called "Rode Duivel", Red Devil, and the DH1/DH2 was the "Wadloper". The latter can be found in Romania and South America these days.
@mavadelo
@mavadelo Жыл бұрын
@@SeverityOne Hondekop... of course... force of habit :)
@gianlucateodori
@gianlucateodori Жыл бұрын
In Italy we have this train (the version with different interiors and lower speed for local service) and we call it POP (Trenitalia loves to give his regional trains a musical genre as nickname)
@laurensnieuwland4657
@laurensnieuwland4657 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the current most used one: Koploper, named this way because they used to have a head which you could walk through to access other trains when they drive in a set. It was removed around 20 years ago due to high failure rates and maintenance costs.
@Rainbowroad12345
@Rainbowroad12345 Жыл бұрын
The vote was not really representative. It was a poll of a train news site where wasp was an option, with 1500 votes. If NS did this, it would be possible a different story.
@margrietvanderkaaij3660
@margrietvanderkaaij3660 Жыл бұрын
i love the look of the new train! my only issue is the amount of seating im seeing. As a dutch student i know how hard it is to get a seat on even the old intercities where there are far more seats per coach but now its going to be basically impossible, especially around 9 am when all the students are travelling, we get free travel on public transport so most take the trains. The fact they have spaced out the seating way more is nice for comfort but idiotic considering the student/work rush the ns has to deal with on a daily basis.
@sanserof7
@sanserof7 Жыл бұрын
Yes there is not enough seating. I'd rather have more seats and less comfort.
@tr33c21
@tr33c21 Жыл бұрын
I think this was sadly a conscious choice by NS, having less seats and no stairs for a second floor actually creates more standing space. So more people standing, meaning more people in a train carriage. Less carriages needed. Also it will cause people to stand in trains more, making it look fuller, which will scare away people more quickly to other carriages or alternative transport.
@Nottokena
@Nottokena Жыл бұрын
Ik zat er vorige week zelf in en was persoonlijk verbaasd met hoeveel stoelen er waren , interieur is ook super comfortabel ik heb eig niks te zeiken😂
@yn6292
@yn6292 Жыл бұрын
I hate how much capacity those first class seats take, often they are completely empty while the blue sections are over stuffed.
@markiemannie
@markiemannie Жыл бұрын
@@yn6292 and that’s why I pay for them
@hebijirik
@hebijirik Жыл бұрын
I work in the factory that makes the outer doors and their systems (it is in Czech Republic). I have been seeing "project ICNG" in production for some time now and I mainly work with the door drive (the thing under the ceiling that opens and closes the door). It is nice to see the whole train these go into.
@micheljansen85
@micheljansen85 Жыл бұрын
I don’t do anything with these trains, i just like it’s built in the EU 😄
@hebijirik
@hebijirik Жыл бұрын
@@micheljansen85 You might be surprised how much of it actually really is. It is not like just the final assembly of it is in EU. I only know the door system but for that pretty much everything from custom aluminium extrusions and castings through laser cut sheet metal, zillion layers of paint, rubber seals and windows and all the way to the control electronics and wiring is built locally. I would imagine most of the train to be the same. It makes sense to do it like that for many reasons: the quantity of production is too low to get significant savings by moving the production elsewhere, having it local makes a lot of customization for every type of train much easier and since trains (and trams and metros) are largely paid from taxes it is good to keep the flow of the money close to where it came from.
@TheLukasDirector
@TheLukasDirector Жыл бұрын
​@@micheljansen85 (they always have been for NS)
@Rafa-mv4nn
@Rafa-mv4nn Жыл бұрын
Love the way these trains look! There's one glaring issue that others have posted about though, and that is that there is a decrease in sitting capacity, because of the general design and also because a larger portion of the train-cars are 1st class. Since most people buy 2nd class tickets, they'd either have to stand or hope there's a seat available in the limited space.
@tychohuisman5686
@tychohuisman5686 Жыл бұрын
Although the train looks stunning, as a Dutch student, I experience crowded and overloaded on a daily basis. This is with the previous IC. All students were hoping for more seats in the next gen, but we were let down and got much fewer seats in return. I expect no more trains where I can sit and work on my way to school anymore...
@jonaswhale6451
@jonaswhale6451 Жыл бұрын
Are there toilets again ?
@MusicIsLegal
@MusicIsLegal Жыл бұрын
Yeah i really hate the new trains, no space, less seats and still TOO short trains, they are supposed to be here for the coming 20 years or so right? In 5 years these trains will be obsolete.
@thehunter5475
@thehunter5475 Жыл бұрын
the country is getting more densly populated every year. with more and more people choosing alternative transports to cars (THIS IS GOOD!!) and what do we get? Fewer seats, longer intervals between trains, less rails and routes and more expensive fares! Great job private sector, free monopoly capitalism at it again!
@TaskForce-ql3bx
@TaskForce-ql3bx Жыл бұрын
@@thehunter5475RUTTE WOOHOO 😞
@mcaviator4585
@mcaviator4585 Жыл бұрын
actually, they have a higher capacity than the trains they’re replacing
@RoelBaardman
@RoelBaardman Жыл бұрын
Looks like you were here around King's day! He visited Rotterdam this year. Did you know? NS is the only operator that insists on providing a uniform look&feel for their travel information inside the trains. The screens you see on the side of the internal doors are built and operated by NS. They build their own platform (OBIS), which not only gives you information about the travel but can also supply information in case of diversions and delays. I've been part of the team that builds the hardware abstraction layer for OBIS. The part that talks to the train and controls the destination boards on the outside, the lights and stuff like the bio-toilet (telling it when it can/cannot flush externally. Not in tunnels/stations). There was a plan to adapt the lights around tunnels and when approaching a stop. Since our software talked directly to the hardware of the Alstom platform, we visited Alstom Villeurbanne. I have to say I was extremely impressed by the work they're doing there. Everything was well organised and the engineering looked very well done!
@qornopiratu
@qornopiratu Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure SBB trains have standardized passenger information systems as well. They all look the same. But it might just be the exterior looks
@hypernewlapse
@hypernewlapse Жыл бұрын
SBB, SOB, BLS, DB, OBB also have their own standard screen tech LOL
@RoelBaardman
@RoelBaardman Жыл бұрын
Haha, really? I was misinformed! Thanks for correcting me!
@pbilk
@pbilk Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that neat information!
@Barrosy
@Barrosy Жыл бұрын
I don't believe you mean to say "talking" in this context, rather "communicating". As a part of a team responsible for building technology for this type of transport, I would like to inform you that you failed in regard to realise screens to always display data rather than advertisements or pointless animations. For example, if I would like to know my next station when I'm in the middle of nowhere (not literally but you get my point), I wish I would be able to tell my location without grabbing my phone and opening any type of GPS software. Hopefuly the NS will improve their work on these displays.
@RegiRaidillonVT
@RegiRaidillonVT Жыл бұрын
This is it, guys. The changing of the guard. And oh boy, does it look beautiful. I absolutely can't wait for them to be in full service
@bluebear6570
@bluebear6570 Жыл бұрын
Beauty always is in the eyes of the beholder. I think they are simply butt ugly.
@tubester4567
@tubester4567 Жыл бұрын
cool train.
@JomirBrands
@JomirBrands Жыл бұрын
They are great!
@klausbriesma9050
@klausbriesma9050 Жыл бұрын
What's the brand of these trains?
@VakishIndrajith
@VakishIndrajith Жыл бұрын
Klaus they are made by Alstom
@stevenbanaan
@stevenbanaan Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how lightning quick this man moves through the coaches?
@pbilk
@pbilk Жыл бұрын
Haha, my thoughts exactly! 😆
@smeetsnoud1
@smeetsnoud1 Жыл бұрын
It's the STEP: Standardized Train Enthusiast Pace!
@harrickvharrick3957
@harrickvharrick3957 Жыл бұрын
Well, YOU can talk about it, you certainly are free to talk about it. I for one do not specifically feel inclined to dive into that matter that deeply myself. (Just kidding.)
@Scrapemist
@Scrapemist Жыл бұрын
Because he is not allowed to film in the train..
@DailyDiscountNL
@DailyDiscountNL Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he was like: I am speed! 😂
@stevenoskam
@stevenoskam Жыл бұрын
10:45 for the past 10-15 years, most of the new train seats got tested by actual commuters in a mock up at Rotterdam Centraal. NS then chose the seats based on the reviews given there.
@tijmen131
@tijmen131 Жыл бұрын
and yet we still ended up with those garbage seats from the refurbished VIRMS
@JoelHaasnoot
@JoelHaasnoot Жыл бұрын
I know that the testing of seats was in 2014 or 2015 or so, so going on 10 years ago. I think the order is the other way around - the refurbished VIRMS have the same seats as these trains. Likely volume purchasing here...
@josephr9551
@josephr9551 Жыл бұрын
A beautifully done video, thank you Thibault. The train is beautiful inside and out. The Dutch countryside looks so clean and orderly. One of my work colleagues just returned from a visit to the Netherlands and raved about the country, especially the massive fields of spring flowers.
@iamthestig1
@iamthestig1 Жыл бұрын
Those spring flowers ain't what they seem...
@myrajanssen2719
@myrajanssen2719 Жыл бұрын
I think your friend romantasizes the Netherlands a bit too much
@drunkensailor112
@drunkensailor112 Жыл бұрын
​@@myrajanssen2719 no it's not. The Netherlands is one of the most beautiful countries I've ever seen.
@capybaratherealoneNL
@capybaratherealoneNL 10 ай бұрын
@@drunkensailor112come to the north and enjoy the onlanden 😂😂😂
@rickkearn7100
@rickkearn7100 Жыл бұрын
Great post, SR! You Europeans are truly blessed with arguably the best public transit in the world (all aspects considered). Thanks for highlighting these great trains. Cheers.
@leonpaelinck
@leonpaelinck Жыл бұрын
No country in Europa matches Japan
@justpf
@justpf Жыл бұрын
Switzerland 😛
@befreetv354
@befreetv354 Жыл бұрын
Japan is No.1 ! even I am not a fan of the country ! Salute from Europe
@unepintade
@unepintade Жыл бұрын
@@leonpaelinck In regional transport, many of the western european countries greatly outmatch Japan and for Highspeed, Spain is very close to Japan in coverage
@koosgijsman
@koosgijsman Жыл бұрын
@@leonpaelinck no country matches japans debt either… they spend it on trains!!
@mattianardelli2296
@mattianardelli2296 Жыл бұрын
We have that train also here in Italy for regional service (Trenitalia has purchased it recently) under the name “Pop”, alongside the new double decker “Rock”. It’s really comfortable, but when the train is super full it can’t accomodate lots of standing people, plus the doors are weirdly located. However I really like it, it’s quite smooth and quiet
@playerscobongameplay
@playerscobongameplay Жыл бұрын
As a traveler that most of time I used rock I agree, is smooth, fast and comfortable
@gab_v250
@gab_v250 Жыл бұрын
It's also the same version used in Trenord's own regional fleet (Donizetti).
@klausbriesma9050
@klausbriesma9050 Жыл бұрын
What's the brand of these trains?
@domepugliese
@domepugliese Жыл бұрын
​@@klausbriesma9050 Alstom
@klausbriesma9050
@klausbriesma9050 Жыл бұрын
@@domepugliese much better than this Italian fyra. What a nightmare
@UlliStein
@UlliStein Жыл бұрын
0:23 Wow, Rotterdam has a really beautiful station!!
@kathrynelrod5570
@kathrynelrod5570 Жыл бұрын
utrecht too. there are some gorgeous stations in the netherlands!
@colanitower
@colanitower Жыл бұрын
Nice touch are the iconic letters "R O T T E R D A M C E N T R A A L" carried straight over from the previous building
@rdevries3852
@rdevries3852 Жыл бұрын
If you like modern architecture, Delft and Arnhem also have beautiful train stations. Or, if you prefer historic stations, Den Haag Hollands Spoor, Haarlem and (especially) Groningen spring to mind.
@UlliStein
@UlliStein Жыл бұрын
@@rdevries3852 Oh yes, thanks for the travel ideas! I'll be back...
@zenjii1
@zenjii1 Жыл бұрын
Great video, glad you are highlighting our new train!!! The prices on Dutch train tickets though...aargh...
@BruscoTheBoar
@BruscoTheBoar Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile germany: "Hold my 49€-Ticket"
@JomirBrands
@JomirBrands Жыл бұрын
Public transport will become even more expensive. Everything in the Netherlands is very expensive
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
NS isn't subsidised, and pays €80m to the government, even though it's 100% government-owned. This may change, though, because they've been making a loss pretty consistently for a couple of years now. The pandemic didn't help, for example.
@JomirBrands
@JomirBrands Жыл бұрын
@@SeverityOne Important note: people in our country know that it is not the fault of the carriers. The country makes everything expensive and we hate it. There will soon be less public transport. It is ridiculous.
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
@@JomirBrands That's a bit of s sweeping and somewhat populist sentiment. Somebody has to pay to have the trains run, and to maintain the infrastructure. You can subsidise them with taxes, but that implies that either (a) other services suffer or (b) taxes go up. And the senior party in government has been conservative liberal for the past decade. I left the Netherlands at the end of 2000, and moving country opens your eyes to your old country. (It's also damn hard, but that's another issue.) When you live there, you don't really see what's around you. Move abroad, and you realise that the Netherlands is a country with perfect infrastructure, rotten weather, and a lot of complaining people. Where I live now, in the middle of the Mediterranean, the weather is postcard perfect (except it gets VERY hot in summer), but 20 years ago people were habitually driving cars from the 1960s and 1970s. As their daily drive! The different in wealth was staggering. I came from a country where everything was organised to the last iota, and while it's not even that bad here considering what's around us, perfect it's not. To give an example: I get 10 days of fully paid sick leave a year, 10 days at 50%, and after that it's unpaid. In the Netherlands? 365 days. And who pays for that? Take it from me: the anger and disaffection aside, the Netherlands are a very comfortable country to live in.
@markusstudeli2997
@markusstudeli2997 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see that the Netherlands finally seem to get good new IC trains! The only small complaint I'd make is that the bay-seats do not seem to be well aligned with the windows, but that's a minor thing. I particularly like the colourful wallpaper in and around the toilet area as well as the lighting color schemes, well done!
@Sanderos25
@Sanderos25 Жыл бұрын
The problem is they are IC trains on a High Speed rail line, we've built a 300 kph capable rail connection, because the ICE3 was 'not good enough' we had a Fyra fiasco. Who would have guessed with Ansali Breda. Appearantly everyone except in the Netherlands. Now 10 years later, almost to the day we have new IC trains, capable of 200 kph. I don't know who greenlit this.
@andrebrait
@andrebrait Жыл бұрын
Don't they fit less people per wagon, though? Current ICs have two floors.
@markusstudeli2997
@markusstudeli2997 Жыл бұрын
@@andrebrait I don't think that's the ones they are replacing. The doubledeckers are used on slower lines. The old trains on the high speed line have two locomotives and wagons in between. There should be at least as many seats per train in the new EMUs. What could be criticized is that they don't live up to the full potential on the high speed line with their 200 km/h max speed.
@wasmic5z
@wasmic5z Жыл бұрын
The ICNG is actually a completely new development! Only the exterior is similar to the other Coradia Stream trains, other than that it's a wholly new train - and that's also why it got delayed by so long, because software bugs had to be taken care of. Here in Denmark, the DSB have ordered 100 trainsets that will be very similar to the ICNG, but with double doors instead, and all the trains are only 5 cars long. From the previews, I would say that the exterior of the Danish trains doesn't look as good as the Dutch ones, but the interior looks more comfortable and higher quality on the Danish trains. However, we'll have to wait until 2025 to see them in action.
@unepintade
@unepintade Жыл бұрын
Well that would be weird since the ICNG is the most numerous variant of the Coradia Steam
@ViktorFromDK
@ViktorFromDK Жыл бұрын
Um at least the ones we are getting here in Denmark is Corodia Stream sets just with more powerful brakes (Due to the fact that DSB dont want loco drivers having to go out on the track to place blocks if they had to stop on the Great Belt Bridge...)
@wasmic5z
@wasmic5z Жыл бұрын
@@ViktorFromDK They're all called Coradia Stream. The issue is that "Coradia Stream" is actually two different families with the same external design and the same name, but very different mechanics and programming. The first type of Coradia Stream runs in Italy and several other places as regional trains. These have a lower top speed. The second type of Coradia Stream is the Dutch ICNG and the upcoming Danish IC5. These are designed as intercity trains with a higher top speed of 200 km/h. The two types look very similar externally, but they're very different in terms of mechanics and programming. So the ICNG, despite being called "Coardia Stream" like some previous trains, was actually a completely new development (which is why it had so many problems with getting approval). The Danish IC5 trains are just a small modification of the Dutch ICNG.
@apveening
@apveening Жыл бұрын
A couple of small remarks: 1) The airport (and the station at it) are called Schiphol, not Schipol. 2) The lack of storage space is not really smart as Schiphol is one of the major stations on that line and a lot of passengers for the airport will have luggage with them.
@StefanWithTrains
@StefanWithTrains Жыл бұрын
10:12 That is me and my friends on the right! I was the one with the Black/White/Green hoodie. Thx for the selfie! I really liked the video! Btw, the NS ordered the ICNG 3350 and 3351 prototype trainsets for services to Germany.
@mart555rct
@mart555rct Жыл бұрын
They look comfy, but what I liked the most about the old IC´s was the amount of two-seat-rows. Most people travel alone or with two, and these two seat rows had the best distance to the tables. In the new trains it looks like these tables and four-seat-rows take op so much space. Not that practical with the busier trains nowadays...
@Thomas1980
@Thomas1980 Жыл бұрын
Super great Video👍Thumbs Up😀
@BubblesBub434
@BubblesBub434 Жыл бұрын
I don't think we can class these trains as AMAZING. First issue: most people in the Netherlands want to work while on the train or otherwise sit alone whenever possible, you can't do work on the 2+2 opposing seats as there's no table, and you will likelier be sitting with someone random. So it's a really terrible choice that they went for that. Second issue: relative lack of toilets, though this is an issue across all Dutch trains. These ones will do long distance journeys (Groningen -> Amsterdam -> Rotterdam), often toilets are out of order, you really need to have more per trainset. Third issue: less seats than the IC Direct trains (Amsterdam-Rotterdam at high speed) currently running, which are already filled to the brim in rush hour. Stadler KISS or Siemens Desiro would have made much more sense for this line through its higher seating capacity, max platform length is just 320m. Maybe the Dutch railways suffer from max weight restrictions through poor soil conditions and that's why they opted for this one? I got Alstom stocks (and Thibault seems to work for them) so maybe I shouldn't say this, but it just seems like a weird choice to go for their Coradia stream single-deck model here over their competitors.
@lorenzoa5272
@lorenzoa5272 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful trains! Romania will have this type of train soon too, the first is expected to arrive in December 2023 and is going to connect Bucharest to Constanta :D
@geerd1
@geerd1 Жыл бұрын
So happy we’ll see this beauty here in Belgium as well 😊
@christopherbuckley94
@christopherbuckley94 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a nice train set. I'm glad they finally got the seats right!
@capybaratherealoneNL
@capybaratherealoneNL 10 ай бұрын
we dont have enough seats! rush hour on NS is hell and now they removed the seats!
@christopherbuckley94
@christopherbuckley94 10 ай бұрын
@@capybaratherealoneNL that stinks!
@railvideoseu
@railvideoseu Жыл бұрын
Great video! Awesome to see a video of you up here so shorty after they entered service.
@kaybe3044
@kaybe3044 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the power outlets are one things that I felt like have been missing from current ICs. Especially on the longer distance trains it is important to have some kind of power outlets. Glad they have those in the new generation.
@befreetv354
@befreetv354 Жыл бұрын
nice to see this man ! ..Romania bought the same kind of trains...this year - summertime- will arrive in Romania ! Total 37 new trains will arrive in Romania this year and the next! Cheers from Romania
@LeafHuntress
@LeafHuntress Жыл бұрын
Will they be used between "Chișinău & Bucharest"? Why yes, yes i do plan my holidays on the basis of an Eurovision song, why do you ask?
@befreetv354
@befreetv354 Жыл бұрын
@@LeafHuntress I checked the news on newspapers...it says ONLY romanian rutes inside the country !
@filegrabber1
@filegrabber1 8 күн бұрын
Rotterdam Centraal Station is so beautiful. Always a nice welcome into the city.
@Nadia1989
@Nadia1989 Жыл бұрын
I really love the benches right next to the door. When I was on the train to the airport I was uncomfortable standing next to the door because there was no space for luggage in the Sprinter.
@diannewi
@diannewi Жыл бұрын
Level boarding is HUGE, so much easier get on and off with luggage. A really nice train.
@SimplyRailway
@SimplyRailway Жыл бұрын
Agreed! That's the most perfect level boarding I've seen in a long time!
@thechilledonion9313
@thechilledonion9313 Жыл бұрын
I like Coradia trains. The only downside for me is that they are very noisy (when you are outside at least). Where I live, we have both Alstom Coradias and Stadler Flirts on regional services. And, Flirts are much more quiet.
@jdj8168
@jdj8168 Жыл бұрын
this is the first time I have come across your channel and I definitely wouldnt call myself a train enthusiast, but I love the way the video is setup, the details like drone shots, google earth footage and maps are great!!
@scottyerkes1867
@scottyerkes1867 Жыл бұрын
Great ride! Comfy seats! Colorful interior lighting. Thanks Thibault.😀💚
@SzrrrkEWL
@SzrrrkEWL Жыл бұрын
Comfy seats, if you can get one that is.
@stevesteffen7001
@stevesteffen7001 Жыл бұрын
The exterior of the Rotterdam station is great love the look.
@keizervanenerc5180
@keizervanenerc5180 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the selection of the seat manufacturer, pretty sure it was going to be a top priority after the new NS local trains SNG (from Spanish CAF) had a bit of a PR desaster. Their seats suck! Too upright not soft enough. Therefor those trains are known to some people as the "backpain express". Glad to hear NS did a better job with the new InterCities!
@dykam
@dykam Жыл бұрын
The seats appear identical to those in the revamped VIRMs, which makes sense now.
@Mew178
@Mew178 Жыл бұрын
Why aren't Europeans copying what the asian discovered a long time ago, use rotating seats that way you can easily accommodate groups of 4, have the privacy of 2 seats if there no groups and most importantly have adjustable seats, so even if the cover suck the passengers can just adjust it to their liking.
@morrisz2
@morrisz2 Жыл бұрын
@@Mew178 Probably would be vandalized pretty quickly. the Netherlands tends to be cheap on security these days. That's why these new trains are so open. Easy too see if something happens without having to hire more staff
@augustin4374
@augustin4374 Жыл бұрын
@@Mew178 SNCF did on TGV Océane for a time but discontinued the feature because it wo too complex and costly
@patrickreuvekamp
@patrickreuvekamp Жыл бұрын
@@dykam Those are different.
@AlexHaan
@AlexHaan Жыл бұрын
Wow. That's expensive! I paid €56-ish for a first class ticket from the top of the Netherlands to the west in Belgium! (Straight to Rotterdam, then Antwerp, then to the west).
@wouterpaap9343
@wouterpaap9343 Жыл бұрын
That is a fast review of this new train, compliments! And well done as allways, thanks. From what I hear, in future this train type will ride the The Hague - Venlo connection and lateron the reoute you were in will be extended to peripheric destinations in the Netherlands, such as Groningen and/or Enschede. When that happens, lets hope catering will return on our domestic trains.
@funkyhetzer6624
@funkyhetzer6624 Жыл бұрын
Really amazing new Sets NS got! Keep up the excellent reviews!
@wondersupremo
@wondersupremo Жыл бұрын
in Italy we have the exact same train model (etr 104 and 204) can be in 3 or 4 cars and it goes up to 160 km/h used mostly for regional service (it's a little bit uncomfortable but amazing as a train I want them in Thier longer version aswell in my country lol)
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
Well, you got the ETR 700 instead. 🙂
@MrJimheeren
@MrJimheeren Жыл бұрын
I traveled with one in Sicilia last year. Nice trains
@stefanokasuga4384
@stefanokasuga4384 Жыл бұрын
@@SeverityOne And they're working perfectly as Red Arrow segment...so we thank you for that :D
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
@@stefanokasuga4384 Do they indeed? I've always found it a bit of a strange story. Let's just say that you cannot always rely on what's reported in the media.
@LucaPasini
@LucaPasini Жыл бұрын
@@SeverityOne Yes, they do: mainstream media usually just don't care about train models; specialized railway-oriented media covered the refurbrishment process extensively and were and would be the first to report on any malfuncions. And if it wasn't enough, I personally see those trains running all the time exactly as the other models. They're for sure not the best rolling stock in the Trenitalia fleet, but they've been doing their job reliably for years now.
@Mgameing123
@Mgameing123 Жыл бұрын
DSB will be getting these too. Will you review the DSB varients in the future?
@drdewott9154
@drdewott9154 Жыл бұрын
Its probably too early to tell. I mean we won't get ours delivered until 2 years from now, and we won't even know if ours will enter service quickly or not. These dutch ones took a long time to get into service
@jonathangat4765
@jonathangat4765 Жыл бұрын
I have to check out Rotterdam station one of these days soon. I have a long-planned trip through the Netherlands planned.
@garykuipers2696
@garykuipers2696 Жыл бұрын
Great design in all aspects. As the old saying goes, "it isn't much if it isn't Dutch." Your videos are top notch.
@Benjamin0c
@Benjamin0c Жыл бұрын
Amazing NS livery 😍
@jossefjossikajit4169
@jossefjossikajit4169 Жыл бұрын
Super Work ❤ Greetings from Maastricht ❤
@laughingcat6540
@laughingcat6540 Жыл бұрын
i once read an article saying they would be released in 2023. the memory kept popping back into my mind lately, and here they finally are
@joostvanderlee9569
@joostvanderlee9569 Жыл бұрын
around kings day, cool. Cant wait till everything is in full service
@CARambolagen
@CARambolagen Жыл бұрын
Well done! Very insightful!
@vuxphan
@vuxphan Жыл бұрын
I rode on the old one last week and still comfortable and clean. I just missed this one. Oh! well next times
@christophedejonge918
@christophedejonge918 11 ай бұрын
Wow, don't travel by train much anymore, I didn't know. Can't wait to ride one in the wild. As a Dutchie, travelling by train was daily practice in several periods of my life (with fold-up bike and everything).
@TsLeng
@TsLeng Жыл бұрын
Love that there are some couches too. Fab
@kanchanananayakkara8959
@kanchanananayakkara8959 Жыл бұрын
Wow i love those sofa like seats on sides! 😊❤
@mixa4195
@mixa4195 Жыл бұрын
Great train, greeting from Serbia!
@JomirBrands
@JomirBrands Жыл бұрын
It's a great train! I love it!
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 Жыл бұрын
I believe ICNG are rated at a top speed of 200 km/h (124 mph). That allows them to run quicker on the HSL line between Amsterdam and Rotterdam and allows better compatibility with the _Thalys_ trains that use this line.
@daanwolters3751
@daanwolters3751 Жыл бұрын
Between schiphol and rotterdam they will actually be as quick as the thalys once they start driving 200 with next years timetable, as they accellerate and brake a lot quicker, rotterdam antwerpen they will only be 5 minutes slower. However that is if the ns can go trough with their plans to skip a lot of stops.
@gymnasiast90
@gymnasiast90 Жыл бұрын
@@daanwolters3751 I doubt that they will tighten up the timetable for next year already. It would first require them to replace all the Traxx+ICR sets. Until that moment, they will only drive 200 km/h if they have to make up for delays.
@daanwolters3751
@daanwolters3751 Жыл бұрын
@@gymnasiast90 for all the lines, no. However, they only need to replace all the traxx on the ic direct services to be able to raise the speed there (you can leave the ic brussel at 160, while increasing the speed on the national lines.) So we will probably see an speed increase on the amsterdam rotterdam line, since it is a very short line this year. Hopefully on the den haag eindhoven line as well. The trains to belgium and leeuwarden/groningen/enschede is less certain, as alstrom keeps delaying deliveries of additional trains.
@timnewman1172
@timnewman1172 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Thibault!
@dion8976
@dion8976 Жыл бұрын
Whatever microphone you're using is incredible, sounds like I'm there with my headphones
@MrEoinkeane
@MrEoinkeane Жыл бұрын
You were in the Netherlands around King's Day?! That's our National Holiday. Hope you got to experience at least some of it. The King was in Rotterdam that day.
@gymnasiast90
@gymnasiast90 Жыл бұрын
Great video. One thing I have to disagree with: the old trains (the Traxx loc with ICR coaches) are notoriously unreliable, especially when going through a change of voltage or security system (which happens every time it enters and leaves a station, all the stations use 1500 V DC with ATB, while the HSL has 25000 V AC with ERTMS). This is why NS is prioritising their replacement with the ICNG. The ICM (an EMU that the ICNG is also supposed to replace) will remain in service until then, even though the oldest still running trains of that type are now 40 years old - much older than the TRAXX and about as old as the ICR.
@Izithel
@Izithel Жыл бұрын
I had my doubts when I first saw the mock-up at an NS confrence in the Hague, but I feel like the final product turned out pretty good afterall.
@nvwest
@nvwest Жыл бұрын
Main concerns with interiors is efficient use to fit chairs, comfortable light when it’s way too late at night, and headrests that are high enough so that you’re not starting into other people’s eyes. Wifi and charging points are also a nice luxury.
@corneliusjacobsenmay5753
@corneliusjacobsenmay5753 Жыл бұрын
Nice review of the train. Looking forward to travelling with it. One thing about filming in the train… not sure if all passengers are okay with being on youtube?? Anyways thanks for the thorough review.
@davidaarthur
@davidaarthur Жыл бұрын
Bright and airy, and you can tell the seats are comfortable just by looking at them! I don't understand why there are so many doors along the corridor, though.
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
At a guess, because of the different zones (blue, orange and purple). It's especially visible at 9:19.
@jonkoops
@jonkoops Жыл бұрын
Could be for fire protection/noise reduction between the cabins?
@MrStarfishPrime
@MrStarfishPrime Жыл бұрын
Why in the UK we cannot have cool comfy trains like the Dutch?
@Mdgd63
@Mdgd63 Жыл бұрын
Thalys, that's a good train design!
@DailyDiscountNL
@DailyDiscountNL Жыл бұрын
Nice train, I hopefully can use it soon! At least the NS now looks to have a modern train for longer distances, next to the new Sprinter for shorter distances 👍
@hundun5604
@hundun5604 Жыл бұрын
From the same factory as the new/latest sprinter trains? They look alike on the inside. In the 2nd class, the walking path between the seats seem a bit narrow. The transition between coaches is so smooth! Same goes for the train-door to the platform. That's a big improvement compared with the older trains.
@johnshares444
@johnshares444 Жыл бұрын
Love from new Mexico
@ThePizzabrothersGaming
@ThePizzabrothersGaming Жыл бұрын
You can save on your ticket by getting it digitally! you can even just check in and out using an nfc enabled payment device or card
@Lisasplace
@Lisasplace Жыл бұрын
i have mixed feelings about the new trains NS is rolling out. But from the looks of it they finally gave all of the spaces an outlet anf FINALLY a dedicated luggage space. That being said the newer trains are spacious in the sense that half of the commuters have to stand the entire ride. i also hope they communicae the zones well buecause even if the window has bold letters with SILENCE on them people ignore it.
@palmsky1119
@palmsky1119 Жыл бұрын
Looks really nice!
@Raysboss302
@Raysboss302 9 ай бұрын
And 87% more options. And that’s a fact. ❤
@naturallyherb
@naturallyherb Жыл бұрын
Really awesome!
@0sireion
@0sireion Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the exciting review! Lovely trains. I love the coloured zones concept (if people follow it!). The all-level navigation is really helpful, accessible lavatory really helpful. But where would someone in a wheelchair sit? Are there fold-up seats in the passenger cabins? It looks like the only place for a wheelchair is in the bike area, not part of the passenger cabin--so like that person were only luggage. If a person in a wheelchair was travelling with someone, does that person have to stand the whole way in the bike area?
@SimplyRailway
@SimplyRailway Жыл бұрын
I think I forgot to record this area...
@evandalen4227
@evandalen4227 Жыл бұрын
@@SimplyRailway look at 12.17 ..you're walking trough the wheelchair area. Regular seats at one side, fold-up seats at the other side, right where the large toilet is located.
@DavidTheScientist
@DavidTheScientist Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I hope that NS will just buy more train washes and hire more cleaners to keep them looking nice like in the video. Too often the trains are gross inside and out, rather like CrossCountry trains in the UK. Also, I find it interesting that they chose a 200km/h rather than a 250km/h train given the intention of running services to Belgium. I would imagine that any delays from schedule could cause quite a knock-on impact on 300-320km/h trains like the Thalys and Eurostar as a result...
@patrickreuvekamp
@patrickreuvekamp Жыл бұрын
This has a lot to do with passenger behaviour as well. It doesn't really help if people litter, spill food and drink everywhere, put shoes and wheeled suitcases on seats, etc. About the speed: these trainsets are meant to replace regular intercity stock as well. For that purpose 250 km/h is totally pointless and these trainsets would be considerably more expensive. This means that either NS would have to buy a whole fleet of 250 km/h and spend a lot more, or they would have to keep a fleet of separate trainsets for services on the high speed line, which also would increase cost and is less practical from an operational perspective. And keep in mind that, within the Benelux, distances are relatively short, so you won't gain that much time with 50 km/h extra.
@DavidTheScientist
@DavidTheScientist Жыл бұрын
@@patrickreuvekamp I agree about the behaviour, but when there's greasy smears on the window, dust on the sills, crumbs everywhere etc you know it doesn't get cleaned often. Taking a train in Germany, even comparable RE, they're usually much cleaner, while IC/ICE trains are typically pretty spotless inside... As for the speed, yeah, I'm aware of that, although I wonder just how much more something like the Hitachis are that have been bought by many UK operators, which are capable of 250km/h. And yes, I realise that it's a relatively small part of the network that would utilise that speed (~Schiphol to Antwerpen), but it would also leave open the possibility of running faster services up to Groningen if they ever upgrade/build a new line (which I'm a bit ambivalent about...)
@RhnRailfansdaop4SMCOFC
@RhnRailfansdaop4SMCOFC Жыл бұрын
Versi beautiful train, good video 😊
@5mnz7fg
@5mnz7fg Жыл бұрын
To be honest I don't know. These trains may be technically advanced but I don't like the tendency in modern trains to make the seats ever narrower. I also don't like different levels within the coaches. And I find the outer appearance and design quite boring compared to the much more stylisch ICR, Koplopers, or VIRM.
@thetoasterisonfire2080
@thetoasterisonfire2080 Жыл бұрын
Of course the rgb leds make the train go faster
@esterribeirotrens.8456
@esterribeirotrens.8456 Жыл бұрын
Bom dia...inscrita no Canal!! Saudações do Brasil!!
@RobbertsTravelGuides
@RobbertsTravelGuides Жыл бұрын
if you would have gone on the wednesday it went in service it would have been a perfectly sunny day! I hope you enjoyed the ICNG! I for sure did!
@Happymali10
@Happymali10 Жыл бұрын
One of these trains made the news in germany when it suffered some sort of brake-failure while being towed to a testing-facility, pushing its helpless towing-locomotive through a buffer stop and almost killing the train driver. The report still isn't out on the accident, so they might still be busy trying to find out who messed up how badly.
@theexcaliburone5933
@theexcaliburone5933 Жыл бұрын
The Netherlands is so small and densely populated that intercity services within the country are almost regional in scale, probably why they bought regional trains
@Morrie1160
@Morrie1160 Жыл бұрын
was fun meeting you 😁😁
@dsdonovan
@dsdonovan Жыл бұрын
Wow! A clean, unvandalized NS toilet!
@SimplyRailway
@SimplyRailway Жыл бұрын
Not yet haha
@rbrouns9569
@rbrouns9569 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I would be interesting to compare the new ICNG with the ex Fyra trainsets.
@SimplyRailway
@SimplyRailway Жыл бұрын
You can always watch my video on the ex -Fyra in Italy .. :-)
@rbrouns9569
@rbrouns9569 Жыл бұрын
@@SimplyRailway Yes, i have seen that a time ago. What's your verdict when you compare the two trains. You experienced both. I'am very interested in your verdict.
@LucaPasini
@LucaPasini Жыл бұрын
I don'r really know how fair such a comparison would be: for start they are totally different kinds of rolling stocks, with the Fyra being a pure high-speed train, while the ICNG is a regional train with a higher than average top speed and a different interior. The Fyra have been refurbrished by Trenitalia, so their interior is different from the original one NS/NMBS designed for it, which by now would also look quite outdated. It would have made more sense if someone had managed to film a similar video on the short-lived period where the Fyra were running in the Netherlands many years ago.
@hypernewlapse
@hypernewlapse Жыл бұрын
Why order slow trains for the high speed line though? At least they could have ordered a 230kmh set (Talgo ICE L for DB, Bombardier Twindexx for SBB) but realistically they should have gone for an Alstom New Pendolino, Stadler Smile, Siemens ICE 4, CAF Alvia 120, or something like that
@therealdutchidiot
@therealdutchidiot Жыл бұрын
There's a very simple reason for that. It had to be able to operate on the entire network, not just the HSL. On top of that, at these distances there's a difference of minutes when going faster.
@hypernewlapse
@hypernewlapse Жыл бұрын
@@therealdutchidiot as counterpoint, faster trains can also run off a high speed line. And even with small sections in HSR you can gain quite a few minutes. For example in Spain, to take advantage of the HSR lines, there are some trains called Avant, which are High Speed (250kmh) trains that connect a Big city (Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla) to the nearest HSR stations (like Toledo; Girona, Cordoba)
@therealdutchidiot
@therealdutchidiot Жыл бұрын
@@hypernewlapse Be that as it may, on these distances you'll never get any serious gains. On top of that, the schedule hasn't been adjusted for the ICNG yet (it runs on the ICD schedule) which is set for 160km/h. They want to ease the train into service.
@lexburen5932
@lexburen5932 Жыл бұрын
@@hypernewlapse we dont want another fyra disaster wich we call the " italian maffia train " 11 miljard wasted in the bin. they ripped the NS of pretty good.
@soumitrachatterjee9512
@soumitrachatterjee9512 Жыл бұрын
My dreamland..❤
@TurdBoi-tf5lf
@TurdBoi-tf5lf Жыл бұрын
Nederlands? Nice
@WouterBoere
@WouterBoere Жыл бұрын
funfact, the walls between the compartments of the train are fireproof walls, but there is a gap between the fireproof walls and the walls of the train, so the fire can still spread. but the walls are there to prevent that the fire spread :)
@HDAlchemy
@HDAlchemy Жыл бұрын
Sad to see that there are not any wheelchair accessible spots in the actual carts, I guess we have to sit in the bike space, that forces people we travel with to also sit there while I expect the chairs not to be too comfy.
@XavierXonora
@XavierXonora Жыл бұрын
At 13:18 the old guy from Up makes a cameo
@cajundragon
@cajundragon Жыл бұрын
Are these available for the public to ride? I'll be staying by AMS Centraal Aug 2-Sept 3rd and would love to go 200kmh snelheid! 🚄
@beeniemen
@beeniemen Жыл бұрын
The Netherlands had the best train company imo fast reliable modern and very efficient
@hl.4me
@hl.4me Жыл бұрын
No. People with handicaps were still discrimminated: No invalid toilet and no place coor scootmobile for exampel.
@malmoran8643
@malmoran8643 Жыл бұрын
jaysus the price for a short distance
@nibuanad
@nibuanad Жыл бұрын
Travelling at this price is unnecessarily expensive. - Buying at a ticket machine adds a €1 supplement to each ticket. Avoid this by using an e-ticket, smart card or bank card. - The Rotterdam-Schiphol high-speed line requires a €2.90 supplement, but if you travel by smart card or bank card, you get a discount on this during off-peak hours. - Dutch train subscriptions are pretty cheap: like €5.60 monthly for a 40% discount off-peak, or €35 monthly for free travel on weekends and holidays. - And of course, this is 1st class, not 2nd.
@rezaalan3991
@rezaalan3991 Жыл бұрын
Great trip. What a nice train to be honest. Even though this train using regional train based, but it's alright for intercity trip in Netherlands.
@SimplyRailway
@SimplyRailway Жыл бұрын
It's perfect for the Netherlands :)
@SGtravelsEU
@SGtravelsEU Жыл бұрын
@@SimplyRailway yeah, but it might become a fiasco on the service to Belgium. The number of seats available on each service will be a lot less than with the current coaches. Since quite a few of the trains between Brussels and Amsterdam are full already, especially during the summer months, this will probably result in lots of people standing ....
@clearlynotwoke4929
@clearlynotwoke4929 Жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@cordisdie4519
@cordisdie4519 Жыл бұрын
I always liked their blue and yellow paint.
@SimplyRailway
@SimplyRailway Жыл бұрын
Same :-)
@_JoyceArt
@_JoyceArt Жыл бұрын
I always feel a little responsible that it’s still this yellow-blue color. Way back when (roughly 27 years ago) I was selected and interviewed during one of my commutes to give my opinion on the whole look. And I was very adamant that they should keep these colors. It’s instantly recognizable and it’s a cheery color-combo.
@A_Canadian_In_Poland
@A_Canadian_In_Poland Жыл бұрын
Trains built in Chorzów, Poland (city adjacent to Katowice, Poland).
@dryxos6420
@dryxos6420 Жыл бұрын
As for the luggage compartment, these trains are primarily intended for the high-speed lines. They will run from Breda to Amsterdam - first CS, later - South - and then via Zwolle (later perhaps via Emmeloord, Heerenveen and Drachten - a line still has to be built) to Groningen and Leeuwarden. Trains that call at Schiphol Airport certainly need more luggage space, and Groningen and Leeuwarden are also destinations where people often travel with luggage. To that extent, your comment about the limited space for luggage is justified. The NS should make more room for this in the case of sets that have not yet been delivered.
@floatinsun
@floatinsun Жыл бұрын
Sad thing about dutch train jorney is it gets over in short period maximum like 6 hours 😮😅from Stavoren (in Friesland, a province in the north-east) to either Vlissingen (in the south-west) or Kerkrade Centrum (south, near Maastricht)
@philthai99
@philthai99 Жыл бұрын
Very nice.
@weifengjiang7579
@weifengjiang7579 Жыл бұрын
Hope I'll get to sample an ICNG in the coming years! Seat alignment with windows could be better ...
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