The Duviri Paradox | A Warframe Experience

[@NovaUmbral]

Support me directly on Patreon! www.patreon.com/NovaUmbral And Join the Discord: discord.gg/RUKf8PVn2r The duviri Paradox video is finally here! Let me know your thoughts down below, and thank you for the continued support!

[@alovera8592]

pin it man 😅

[@nanachisaisho8037]

you forgot about the fact the spirals change the damage dealt by enemies in duviri.

[@Yesnaught]

My thought on Duviri as a new player was that it's simply not representative of the majority of the game. It's not bad, but outside of Duviri, very little of what you learn gameplay-wise doesn't ever come back.

[@goreobsessed2308]

Very true

[@kawaiidesu8864]

True, spending around 2 hours going through the quest and learning about Drifter combat only to realize that the small Undercroft session (Which only takes up 2/6 of the spiral mission) is how the majority of the game is like is very strange

[@thenetherway198]

Not to mention, having a full modded load out then going in the real game and being weak af not knowing why

[@SmoothTurtle840]

Meanwhile you learn how to do Void Flood 100-200+ hrs before you’ll actually need to know how to play the mode (assuming if you’re a new player starting with Duviri).

[@Boiled_Pizza]

@@SmoothTurtle840 is void flood the name of that game mode where you seal stuff by stuffing it with blue stuff?

[@kazen16]

I think it also says something about how powerful a Warframe compared to a "normal" human are also... When you hit your 5 and transforms into a Warframe in duviri you feel like a god one shoting everyone in sight 😂

[@kennethfocarino7075]

That’s my favorite part of the whole thing, it hammers out that power difference way better than Warframe/operator combat.

[@villepore7013]

The kullervo boss fight is the most extreme example of this. If you don't have quite a lot of decrees, you pretty much have to block and hit him until transference surge is ready, but after the frame is out even in SP he just melts.

[@elgrifolorian]

As a warframe vet, I enjoyed the way they told the story within this new game mode.

[@badreedinedjellali1328]

it's like playing a game inside a game I can't belive it's free

[@MortalTempest]

One small nitpick, the drifter didn't create duviri on their own but was recreating it from stories they heard from Euleria aka Gomaitru aka Mother in Deimos.

[@DearMetallia]

If the combat is going to be slowed down to such a degree with drifter, I have to really like the feel of it. It's just not there at the moment and just makes me feel like I could be getting better elsewhere.

[@squiggles9612]

Yea, like why would I bother with Duviri combat when I can just play Elden Ring 💀

[@chainsawplayin]

To me, it feels like a diet Sekiro, or at least tries to feel like that.

[@Tarumarugan]

I love duviri because it’s so weird. But I just started playing this year so it’s all new to me. But I’ve gotten the hang of things. Plus my brothers been playing for years so it’s good to basically have a live-in tutor.

[@NovaUmbral]

Glad that you enjoyed it, its definitely not for everyone but I hope your having fun!

[@drchaoswaffle3624]

Duviri helped me as a veteran with 700+ hours into liking weapons i initially wrote off as mr fodder that i actually love the control of, it feels good to me especially when you play solo or with a friend and go your pace

[@Marianojoey]

I came to Warframe when Duviri got released, and started my game in this mode. I played through the whole story before going into the main game, and I loved it. :) The problem I have with it is that controls work differently than the main game, when fighting as the operator, and going back and forth between the main game and the Duviri Paradox makes my brain freeze a little every time I have to fight.

[@BottomBunkArt]

It would be nice if the combat system for the operator got overhauled to be more like the duviri style

[@AngelSong16]

Good luck with the actual game it has nothing to do with duvuri

[@Tangerator]

​@@AngelSong16not till new war

[@Juan_Dominguez]

I 100% agree with you about the undercroft. Everytime I get to that part it justs annoys me

[@rerere1569]

I have the exact opposite opinion, undercroft is simply the only thing that feels like playing warframe. Not a fan of drifterframe gameplay tbh

[@GDKF0238]

Not a fan? Don’t play Duviri lmao. It’s so easy

[@mcjagergaming]

Glad Im not the only one who wants a drifter only mode. I do hope they add 1 or 2 more emotions, and along side another warframe to grind for. Because if your just grinding Kullervo you can only do it on like 3 cycles so theres no reason to play the paradox, unless your on those cycles. So adding another Warframe to the paradox on diffrent cycles would give you somthing to always be working towards, at least for your first 20-30 hours or so. Plus the OST for the Paradox is the only music I play in my orbiter

[@kazen16]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion with Warframe community, don't get me wrong I like the change of phase with drifter in duviri but seeing how unpopular kahl missions are, that's gonna be a long shot.

[@MortalTempest]

I don't think they will be adding more emotions, but they will likely be adding in new islands based on the lore from Duviri. We should be meeting Albrecht Entrati soon because of Duviri

[@mcjagergaming]

@@kazen16 Kahl is a weird one, but he's not the drifter, he doesn't have decrees to make him stronger, plus he has challenges that make his mission tedious. And it's one of the only 2 ways to get archon shards. So it feels mandatory. You can never play the paradox and it won't really change warframe as a whole. It more like a game with in a game. So I agree Kahl mission are pretty bad, they are no where near the paradox. Besides all they need to do is add a new boss or a different version of the oroworm fight that the drifter can do. And just leave out the undercroft.

[@gratianray2]

with kullervo added, there's a bunch of quiz tablets around duviri now, on the amphitheater, i think, the right answer for what duviri is, it's a guide to managing emotions while under void exposure (just paraphrasing, don't know the exact wording), so its not just a storybook or a story the drifter personally made, but it's like protocol for accidents like the one on the zariman, with a story tied to it for children to understand the process maybe

[@Psion_Phoenix]

My favourite activity in Duviri is collecting all decrees and then running around the map like I’m sonic. XD

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

I think the best way to describe Duviri is as a diet Elden Ring. Has a lot of good and well polished ideas and elements. However it still suffers from a lack of a fully cohesive narrative and focuses on having a lot of said elements and ideas but not connected enough to each other. Crimes of Kullervo does fix some of those story and idea issues but still needs more content.

[@STV013]

Im sorry but It’s no way like elden ring

[@nobody4y]

​@@STV013DE is working on new title named SoulFrame which is inspired by souls series. Some in community speculated that Duviri was atempt/prototype for SoulFrame.

[@MagikarpMan]

@@nobody4y not really speculation, it literally is

[@Just_B0red]

@@nobody4y Wow what an original name for a game.

[@SmoothTurtle840]

@@Just_B0redYeah they coulda made it more subtle lol

[@Egalia_1]

As a new player, Duviri was the first real "fun" I had playing Warframe. Instead of stuck behind wall after wall after grind after grind, this lets you jump right in, play with warframes, weapons, and just have fun. It's definitely far from perfect, but it's one of my favorite parts of the game

[@lookalike4805]

Wait until you want the Incarnon Adaptors 👀

[@kennethfocarino7075]

⁠@@lookalike4805Yeah but let’s be real it’s one of the best grinds Warframe has ever had, with the only complaint being it takes too long to get to rank 10 in SP. If they kept both paths at the “normal” mode pace, and some plant recourses as rewards at each stage, it would be perfect. The best thing is that you can only optimize it to a point with the randomness. The only way to have difficulty at endgame is by randomizing our kit lol

[@tinhornname4117]

Opinion: As someone whos been playing Warframe pretty much non stop for like five or so years, Duviri is a very welcome change of pace/breath of fresh air. It took getting most of the codex thingies in one run and getting the rest of my intriniscs done for me to take a week break from Duviri. I find Duviri fun to play with some friends and just shitposting in Duviri or getting lucky with a solo queue and the other randoms in the lobby mutually deciding to do literally anything but the main objective and by the time we decide to finish the run, it's not a matter of us surviving the boss, it's a matter of the boss surviving us. Memes aside, I really like Duviri as something you can play when you get deathly bored of traditional Warframe gameplay but don't have anything else you want to play and have some time to kill.

[@Helloworld.11122]

To me Duviri shows what direction the new warframe team wants to go in, as well as potentially showing a small tech demo for their upcoming game.

[@oysteivi]

Undercroft is a breath of fresh air after slogging around on the drifter.

[@r3ktfox146]

I really wished for more from the story aspect of duviri....felt like way to little

[@goreobsessed2308]

Me to I was hoping for something narrative focused. But I've seen people complain about what we did get as to much so maybe I'm not the right fan

[@hazeltree7738]

I wouldn't be surprised if we got more story later. The quest we got felt like an introduction to the concepts and things of Duviri, with potential for expansion later on

[@godzelda123]

While the story might be lacking at first glance, the world building and lore is incredible the deeper you look into it. Once you realize Duviri is was created by the Drifter and everything/everyone is a reflection of their mental state, everything hits different

[@lookalike4805]

If you want lore then all you have to do is run around and collect those Data Pads lying around in nooks and Crannies... Beyond that .. every Warframe update is literally just an Excuse to grind more Power Creep Junk that's going to Get Nerfed later 👀

[@r3ktfox146]

Yes the update brought in more lore but story wise it was short and lacking a bit imo

[@DennyPhantom]

Having to do like 20-30 mins of side stuff ("story") before you could fight the boss was such an aggravating experience in this update.

[@goreobsessed2308]

Lol it's nice to have a little story now and then

[@Lucifer04289]

I thought it was fun

[@UNGGodYT]

yup, if the pathos was required only for the adapter would be a thing, but a lot of stuff requires it, so it is an insane grind, and the FOMO is super high with timers.

[@lookalike4805]

@Lucysnamepending Fun huh ? Okay come back to me After you've done it 50 More times. 😐

[@Lucifer04289]

@@lookalike4805 ok, I found it fun the first time. I haven't touched it since edgey knife warframe was released

[@Parra1el_Divide]

Solid video, my only issue with duviri as a long time player is that besides steel path circuit there's nothing to really grind for. There's new Melee weapons and now kulervo but before the update came out incarnon adapters were it. Now the base SP circuit experience is a good system but it sucks waiting and hoping I get one of my 5 SP ready weapons and Frames. Just wish you could somehow farm incarnon adapters outside of SP

[@schrodingersdog5512]

You're biggest problem is that you only have 5 SP ready frames and weapons. You need to exit your comfort zone and learn to build some other frames and weapons. It's a grind, yes, but can any of us really complain about grind at this point?

[@excaligaming2435]

Idk, I am pretty happy about the fact, that Duviri does have an end as a content island. The last thing I want is an endless grind (outside of arcanes for plat that is) tied to this mechanical dumpster fire and I am glad they confirmed on the last dev stream that there will be no further resources squandered on Duviri after the echoes update. I just hope after all these years, that DE finally acknowledges the fact, that some older content islands need a lil bit of love to integrate them properly in a newcomer's routine, because the two biggest features of the game, helminth and operator amps, are gated behind those with no warning or pointer towards them. Then we need a complete balance and SP overhaul and my personal favourite would be more love for Railjack. It is still the coolest system in the game, which is just held back by it's monotonous and copy pasted game modes. It could also be the perfect setting for a weekly "raid" encounter, as in big multistage boss fight with archwing, railjack and warframe objectives properly blend together to give a true epic space combat experience.

[@goreobsessed2308]

I really think that duviri was mostly about giving new players ways to get frames and arcanes and focus way easier. I've got like 6 new Warframes from it and my first few arcanes

[@Parra1el_Divide]

​@@schrodingersdog5512your definitely right about that lol

[@lookalike4805]

Well congrats... You can Get Incarnon Adapter's for platinum in the next Update 👍

[@venomous7337]

My main issue was that I expected so much more after four years of development (and yes the pandemic was a factor). My expectations were so high and a majority of what I wanted from it wasn’t there. I ended up playing it two or three times after completing the quest and just went back to the normal origin system. The melee just feels like a slowed version of regular and the emotion spirals should have had a much bigger impact on the game.

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

The things is that it didn't take 4years to develop. It took them less than a year to make if I remember correctly. They teased it long ago yes but they also didn't quite know what Duviri was back then.

[@technoultimategaming2999]

They teased duviri in 2019 but didn't do anything until 2021 when they finished New War

[@nobody4y]

11:09 I warned you , I warned you but did you listen to me ? Oh no you know didn't you , oh its just a harmless little bunny isn't it , well its always the same isn't it , I always tell , do they listen to me ....

[@infernalmonster4901]

One of my favorite decree set ups is the power strength boosting decree that increases power strength with armor then pair that with the decree that gives you armor when enemies are affected by corrosion then pair that with the decree that makes eneimes take corrosive damage if there close then pair all of this up with hydroid

[@alpine6610]

The moods do have a bit of difficulty change cause heralds can buff their allies with elements respective to the mood spiral Anger for fire Toxin for envy Tau/True damage for Joy Cold for sorrow Electricity for fear But it doesnt really matter too much if you just kill the herald that cast the buff, since doing that will dispell the buff on all enemies

[@Sithishe]

Great video! I actually understand whats going on in Duviri :D also absolutely love Duviri, leveled all Intrinsics, unlicked weapons, farming Curcuit. And I agree I would love Duviri mode without undercroft

[@WILDWOLF_PRIME]

I don’t think gauss mains are ever happy since volt mains beat them in any race no matter what

[@methanoI]

What you on about? Volt gets destroyed in short range.

[@bagusprayogo7025]

​@@methanoIhe also probably forgot titania also exist, lol actually fck speed comparison in general, volt this, gauss that, titania this, these people should just shut up, instead of screaming about who's the fastest why don't just stop screaming asking for a help/taxi on SP nodes cuz most people that likely talking about speed comparison BS they most likely playing with meme mods, gauss speed build that easily dies in a matter of seconds, volt speed build or even bring eidolon build into SP nodes, titania speed build that made her razorflies/exalted weapons totally useless for short, these people should just *Shut the hell up* and play single player with their so proud " *_speed build_* " Why do I sound mad? I'm tired of hearing this since 2016 and why did he typed that comment anyway in the 1st place? This video subject is about duviri

[@marcosgarcia8544]

​@@methanoIimagine use Volt and Gauss for short range when you can use parkour with any other warframe ☠️

[@methanoI]

@@marcosgarcia8544 In a 250m race Gauss always wins, in a 1000m race Volt would win.

[@marcosgarcia8544]

@@methanoI if you want to travel 250 m use parkour, a k drive, archwing, kaithe, anything. In 1000 use Volt

[@beeleuazevedo8142]

Need more rewards for playing it tbh, i only play it for the adapters but it is a enjoyable experience

[@stefandecu6500]

Man, I hope you're reading this, every time I see you post something longer then 20 minutes I go grab a snack immediately. Always a pleasure seeing your videos. You should try to make lore videos too.(and one of my favorite video is the limbo one)

[@NovaUmbral]

:)

[@Aaroning]

actuly the spiral dose effect the element the enamys use like with sarrow they use ice which slows you or anger is heat etc now 3 of the 5 are the same for drifter where joy i dont know what it dose and cold only matters for movement early on

[@NovaUmbral]

I honestly haven't noticed but if that's the case its super subtle.

[@pakkacae4830]

@@NovaUmbral it's because only the dax herald is able to buff other dax with the element corresponding to the mood, but because he's the squishiest unit in duviri he usually dies before he's able to do anything

[@pakkacae4830]

would also like to add that oddly enough during the joy spiral, all dax (when buffed by the herald) and the orowyrm are imbued with the tau element and can deal tau damage

[@zerokarma8777]

After playing the duviri experience i got vibes of roguelike like each run is different with perks wep and etc but in the end all finish doing the same final boss,so maybe the devs make it this way to feel like a minigame

[@marcmichaud1643]

Duviri is visually stunning and beautiful. I absolutely love it. That being said once youve figured out how to do everything, your essentially just farming for the incarnon adapter resources and thats essentially it. And because of that the open world just feels a bit empty. I do enjoy playing it but it just needs a bit more meat on the bone.

[@lookalike4805]

I'm convinced DE Hates us because the keep putting their Most Demanding Resource Behind A Single Activity. They Did it with Eidolon Shards, Toroids and Archon Shards...😐

[@marcmichaud1643]

@lookalike4805 Archon Shards got a percentile boost so its really not that bad anymore. But what we need now is a way to covert extra Shards to Tauforge. Torids though...I'm just getting to Little Duck. I avoided it for years. It's just AWFUL

[@lookalike4805]

It's not the Shards I take issue with... It's the Hunts themselves. If wanted to fight Ability Immune Enemies then I would just go back to The Plains Of Eidolon at Night.

[@KevinSmile]

I'm new to this game, and this was the first story I tried out right after the beginning. I really liked it. I'm surprised this was free.

[@DaniAl-pb8ln]

Honestly can not wait for you to cover umbra

[@BottomBunkArt]

I love how you can just keep getting decrees in the Experience and feel like a god when you fight the orowyrm. Edit: the ending of the duviri story can also imply that the man in the wall is also the drifter

[@puppd7428]

How?

[@gushterell7989]

Metaphorically and literally a content island.

[@s.c.2180]

Not at all since it allows you to get frames and weapons from other game modes

[@nikolaiprophet]

If you ask me.... Duviri is like all the other semi open world

[@lookalike4805]

Big and Pointless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@reye9162]

i feel like there shoul've been 7 spirals, each representing a capital sin. they already got envy, sorrow and anger/wrath. it would've been much easier to make specific changes to each spiral going by that, making enemies have different behaviours, npcs have different dialogues, the world has different hazards, even new and unique decrees for each spiral. duviri is new to warframe and all, but... it was in development since 2016. it could've been so much more and it just feels short of what it was even promised.

[@NovaUmbral]

Thing is, it was probably in early development and was worked on here and there throughout all these years until 2022. They've had to develop for many major expansions (War Within, 3 Open worlds, New War etc) And the idea for specific decrees in each spiral sounds really interesting, and definitely can give each spiral more identity outside of visuals

[@ari-mariberry]

I think emotions fit better with the narrative they've built around the Void (a volatile dimension easily warped by human emotion), though I do agree that there should be 7 spirals, since the number 7 is sort of a principal number in Warframe (The Orokin Seven, the seven virtues/drift mods, 7 crimes of Kullervo, etc). More meaningful gameplay changes between each spiral type would be awesome too

[@blockomaniac]

cant wait to watch this all the way through

[@Luzaku_kiss]

We have Elden Ring at home

[@bagusprayogo7025]

nah man, duviri isn't Elden Ring at home, it's Youthful Ring

[@nflhd8678]

The story wasn't created by the Drifter, since we can hear Euleria Entrati (Mother) narrating it. Also he may not be the sole survivor since it was heavily implied that Thrax is a "Tenno" too which might be just Rell since he also had problems with emotions.

[@ceral1871]

The drifter made Duviri and thrax lol

[@TheGameRuler]

Dominus Thrax is, when we catch it in the cutscene on the book cover, the primary figure of sorts of the Duviri story. Here's a few things people missed about Duviri and its implications: The Drifter is the Tenno that WASN'T saved from the Zariman incident, but he is still us. How? Because when the Operator shoke the hand of "Wally", it eliminated all possible outcomes, keeping only the one that shoke the hand. However a possibility is still needed, so the Operator is the one that escaped/was saved (from) the Zariman, while the Drifter was the possibility that didn't. The Drifter, feeling lost and pained, fell back into fantasy to preserve his/her minds, thus creating Duviri in the Void from the book by Euleria Entrati. As such, Dominus became a type of "shade" of the Tenno, our Drifter, in question. Hence why our moods and emotions are more entertwined. He is a part of us and his reach is thus our own too. Problem is, the Drifter was broken, thus they didn't believe they could fight back. It's also heavily implied that the Drifter's style is inspired from the Outlaw in the Duviri tales, hence why they appear to be older than the Operator. This is possibly the reason why Dominus may be different from the Drifter/Operator and why some people assumed it was Rell in the beginning, because as Dominus IS a key figure of the Duviri Tales, it's likely he had a fixed gender and behaviour, thus despite being an aspect of us... he is his own entity, much like the hosts of the Orowyrm may also be extentions of said emotions that belong to us but a fixed way of being while free of us. This is essentially the heart of the Paradox: Duviri is fake, Duviri is real. Dominus is you, Dominus is his own being. The Orowyrm Hosts are your emotions, the Orowyrm Hosts are themselves. EDIT: Also, Rell was more collected and calm as showed originally in game before he got possessed by the Man in the Wall. The Man in the Wall was who made him too unstable since Rell didn't go into cryo sleep like the other Tenno did and was alone holding him back for all this time. Now that the Tenno have awaken and tapped into their powers, they are face-to-face with Wally from time to time, except they have a better "support group" than Rell... also, since the surviving Rell is from our Operator's possibility and not the Drifter's... it would be hard for our Rell to be in control of Duviri, specially since Rell's body was effectively destroyed/discarted before completely synching with his warframe and all the hints pointing at us being "Duviri's creator". So it's highly unlikely to even be him.

[@nflhd8678]

@@ceral1871 I said might be. And the story book still isn't made by the drifter.

[@Box-O-Soldier]

About Kullervo's Bane - they patched SP dropping the same mount as regular one, now it's better. (This is in case people who are watching haven't tried the farm yet)

[@tapirdebain]

It's true, but... you probably shouldn't bother with SP Kullervo's Hold anyway. At least not for farming Kullervo and the Rauta. The Banes drops in SP are only 6, 7 or 8 banes per run as opposed to the 4, 5 and 6 of standard mode, and it still takes twice as long while being much harder in the Undercroft due to the unreliable RNG equipment. With that said, if you just want to enjoy the cinematic experience with some actual difficulty instead, go ahead. Be warned that the SP Orowyrm fight is still buggy as hell.

[@Box-O-Soldier]

@@tapirdebain To be honest, I find myself doing SP Kullervo's Hold with randoms in around 30-40 minutes, which given the higher amount is now actually worth the investment, unlike the almost hour-long runs I had back when the update droppes, so if you have a good setup - go for SP. If you don't think you can do it quick or something - do regular. Either way, as of writing I am literally one run away in either normal or SP to get the last part for the second set to feed him to the helminth :p

[@tapirdebain]

@Box-O-Soldier Welp, i usually speedrun normal Kullervo's Hold in 15-20 minutes, so I'd say I'm probably statistically better off doing normal over SP, if only to avoid the eventual rng during the setup (sure Teshin, I'd love nothing more than fight the SP Orowyrn with Hydroid, a Kuva Kohm and a Stug. I'm sure nothing will go wrong with that). But you're indeed right, it's not as clear cut as it was.

[@shade6001]

I find Duviri fun but I don't like doing it multiplayer because of issues I keep having with the host leaving mid-spiral and getting booted back to the orbiter. On top of that, i don't like undercroft. At all. I think that a mode without undercroft should've been something that existed and a lack of one has gotten on my nerves more than a few times. Aisde from that I find it kinda misleading that the two paths cutscene for the opening is "choose the guy with a sword if you want a shooter and the guy with a gun if you want melee combat" as it can be a bit confusing but not as much of an issue. Otherwise i find Duviri incredibly fun even if I'm incredibly stubborn and turn that dinky pistol into a status machine that shreds anything it hits in a few shots rather than doing melee combat like the game wants me to do.

[@NovaUmbral]

Yeah I just hate that the pace is robbed everytime you go to the undercroft, I get it it’s supposed to tie warframe base combat together to make things connected but it feels awkward

[@excaligaming2435]

Let's just hope for the future, there will never again be any "Experience", that isn't Warframe.

[@UNGGodYT]

It is funny how for those who played all content, we know the drifter sentient adaptation was killed by that paracesys. My biggest complain is the pathos resource, even if you speedrun it on normal, it cant take 15m+ for just 10 of it, and many things requires it, not only adapters. so i am so burned with resource gathering, and the fact it isnt booster supported, i just gave it up, got the incarnion i really wanted and left the rest to collect dust. i guess i was right when i theorize the duviri is the drifter torturing himself, survivor guilty.

[@justehcupcake]

I agree, there should be a mode for drifter gameplay only

[@junkandcrapamen]

After hearing Teshin berate me for letting an excavator get destroyed for the thousandth time, I think I hate him now.

[@dylanbarracks3509]

So funny story but playing through the quest for the first time, during the final cutscene between my character and Teshin, they straight up died and stayed a silent ragdoll the entire cutscene.

[@Swagbrahamog]

Wait a minute what was daddy stalker doing at 19:34? ;) Great video, as always!

[@AyBee9725]

I think the duviri paradox story is somewhat inspired by mental illness, depression coming to mind. Probably other illnesses too but I can’t figure those out.

[@Starhiveart]

Its based on rell who is autistic so yea

[@sasson10]

What Decree builds do you guys usually go for? I always go for a status based build, basically stacking up as many status decrees as possible so that you'll one shot stuff, and the enemies that didn't get hit still die after 1 tick of damage because of Close Contagion

[@excalibur2596]

I go for a crit build if I have a good primary or a melee build if i have a good melee such as the glaive.

[@sasson10]

@@excalibur2596 I think for me the 4 most important decrees are (in a basic explanation) "enemies around you get cold", "if enemy is cold then you do more damage to them", "when enemy is hit, 50% of their status is passed along to others" and "melee hits cause heat", cuz then I'm doing a bunch more damage to enemies around me, and the heat caused by my melee attacks gets passed on, killing everyone else in a certain radius

[@lookalike4805]

Crit and Damage since that's the only thing that Work on The Orowyrm 😐

[@concernedviewer2887]

i will never pass up close contagion when i see it. getting it on the first decree with cedo as an option is a feeling i can never forget

[@KaiSoDaM]

At first i rushed the duviri and after the quest ended i never saw any reason to go back. I never understood the purpose of duviri. It is beautiful, and it is wellmade. But i feel they left out much more things they were expecting to put in the game but could not for a number a reasons, being it tech, money or time.

[@haroldpedro726]

It still need polishing but overall it's a great update. Playing star chart mission now feels like a chore because of monotonous it is

[@HardStankThe2nd]

I like it, but its so weird and nothing like what the main warframe experience is, i also personally dont think it should be a new player option at all for various reasons, the main one being that the gameplay and combat is absolutely nothing like what the main game is, which players will HAVE to go through. Plus when you dont know the story this ends up being extremely confusing for new people, and even people that knew the lore. Like every module DE makes, its fun, very short and barely expanded upon, im looking at you Railjack. This gives some good rewards that youd normally have to grind for in the main game, so it is worth doing at least.

[@zaroc91]

It’s a ROBOT PEGASUS. Enough said!

[@lookalike4805]

So we're just going to Ignore the Elephant in that Room that is Pathos Clamp Farming 🧐 ?

[@crr4482]

been enjoying the actual gameplay of duviri. The new combat system needs polishing but at least DE are trying something new. But I have been having some awful load times and stuttering in duviri, and weirdly it only happens in duviri and not the rest of the game.

[@lookalike4805]

It's because Duviri has a Memory Leak... The More Times you load in and out of there the Slower your System Becomes.... 😱

[@BespinGuard1]

"I forgor 💀" - Driftor

[@Nicolisweetiepie]

Its what every warframe fan wished for, a shittier, slower warframe.

[@GoldWabbitG]

I wish Duviri was more like infamous 2. That might not make since but I get me.

[@vValkyr5]

You should do valkyr for next warframe video:)

[@samanthafaenovale2463]

My brother got my into Warframe just a few days ago. I can honestly say as a new player, starting on the Duviri path was the intro I needed for this game. Not necessarily because it teaches what to expect for the rest of the game (cuz it really doesn't, but that's fine), but because it grabs your interest with the story right from the jump. Personally when I get recommended a new game, I'll normally buy/download it and play once that day. Then it'll sit on my desktop for weeks or months until I have any real urge to fully dive into the game again. Because the story of the Duviri is so bat-shit wild from the instant it started, it made me want to explore and figure out the rest of the game much faster. The only thing I'd want to change is when you pick your Warframe for the rest of the game. Maybe I was just a little too high, but I didn't realize the second time you picked your Warframe, that was the one you were locked into until you're able to grind another blueprint. All in all, this game pulled me out of a Hyper-fixation on Red Dead 2. The only other game to pull me out of a hyper-fixation was Rimworld, which for me isn't too special since it's pretty much an ADHD simulator/tamer

[@APLItsFlauline]

One funny thing for me is that The Duviri Paradow udpate is, in itself, a Paradox. - Giving the opportunity to new players to have a different start is really wierd and confusing. It introduces it to a gamemode completely separated from the Core of the game that do not have a huge utility yet. In the end, after doing the quest and some spirals (let's say 3 to 4H), the player have to redo the tutorial in the Awakening. In my opinion, Duviri should be quest-locked. I think that locking it after either The Second Dream, The New War or Angels of the Zariman are good options depending on how accessible you want this gameplay to be. - One nice thing is the Tutorial that feels far better than the initial one, even after the remaster. The thing is that the Tutorial is good because it is an interesting one but because the other option is worse. The Warframe Tutorial in Duviri should be removed but we'll need to rework the New Player Experience again if not Vor's Prize entirely. The paradox here is that you need to do The Duviri Paradox, an experience really different from Warframe's Core Gameplay to have the best Tutorial for Warframe's Core. - The quest in itself is good, it tackles a really interesting story and theme and introduces perfectly the player to this new gameplay. - The lore surrounding Duviri and the Drifter is quite complex and disturbing, especially with The Seven Crimes of Kullervo. We have connexions based with Warframe Characters but it is hard to see clearly what is happening. In any case, it adds more questions and theories to the game, which for me is good enough. - The Drifter's Gameplay is quite interesting, the Melee system is a little bit simple with only one stance per Weapon but the job is done. The locking system is a little bit wierd so I almost never use it. We are really feeling Powerful after a few decrees, especially in Steel Path. One thing that is wierd is the filtration of decrees. For example, the game is supposed to give at least one Melee Decree if you have already some of them. The thing is that, despite having a few of them, I rarely see one and it became worse as I select a good decree (but not a Melee one) and the Game Start to give me this type of decrees. I have the feeling to be slow (before having the Speed Decree) but it is far better than Khal's Gameplay. This one is slow as hell and having to do this each weak is a real torture. But in Duviri, we can move quickly with the Kaithe and have some movenment options with it. - The Missions are good but not balanced between them : when I'm doing Steel Path Duviri Experience, I rarely do side objectives like Tammns or Sanctuary as it is longer than Opening a Chest, Killing a bunch of Dax or Killing a Chest Guardian. It is worse with the Undercroft as Survival / Defense / Excavation takes around 5min while a Duviri Mission last around 30sec. - The area is really beautiful, with the Different Moods giving a really different ambiance and giving the impression of 5 Different Open Worlds. I personally love the Joy Spiral, it gives a really nice touch to the area. There are lots of Points of Interest, the Area is not empty. There is always something near you to do : a side mission, a cave, a little village, an Enigma, ... The areas inside Duviri are really diverse : Snowy Mountain, Desert, Plains, Lakes, Structured Cities. It is not like a unique Biome like the previous open worlds. - The Orowyrm fight is really good but a little bit Frustrating. Having to do the Steel Path version (the least optimal one) to have a full Boss Fight is sad and I even want it to be longer orr more adapted. The First Phase is really good but I think it need some tweaks. As a Veteran player, I would like to do the Full Squad version of the First Stage in Solo. Having to tweak the 4 Pathos Valves is much more engaging than only 2. Controlling the Orowyrm and Destroying everything around is amazing, I just wish to have more 1v4 Orowyrm Fights like in the Quest. However, the Second Phase is not as good as the First One : either you have a good gear and the Orowyrm is out easily or you have a weak gear against the Orowyrm and the Fight can be really long. Also, i think the game should give us a random Archgun of our Arsenal instead of a default Imperator. This weapon is here if our current weapons do not deal enough damage to the Orowyrm and the Default Imperator is not enough for the Steel Path Orowyrm. The new Segments of the Second Parts are also a little bit frustrating as shooting the Wyrmlings can be painful for some players.

[@jingmingyap230]

In fact I did have a full heavy attack decree setup, and one shot kullervo with one heavy swing, also destroying orowrym ring with the shockwave, its satisfying. And starting as a new player from duviri.... rather disappointing, you just simply go through the quest and back to deal with vor

[@EyeHeytEwe]

from the videos I've seen, Duviri feels like you're playing a SoulFrame demo. Slower combat than Warframe, more of a medieval-type of look and vague storytelling akin to Elden Ring.

[@ignobleking8241]

each time i try to boot up the quest line i'll get to the hand scene and then my controller disconnects, is this a bug? someone please help

[@aorozco_roz]

I have a potato PC, since this update arrived I legit stopped playing, my PC cannot run it propperly anymore.

[@James-9999]

All of last gen

[@szuman963]

I find Duvari somewhere between irritating and boring as it slowly oscillates between those two states (look how thematically appropriate). After finishing the quest I had zero interest in doing it a second time until Kullervo came out. Repeated the stronghold enough times to gather Bane resource to buy all parts of the warframe and his weapon and just then I noticed what are other resources needed to craft it (I wasn't interested in sun&moon at all so i wasn't paying attention initially), did one more run dedicated to trying to gather as many Tasoma Extracts, Saggen Pearls, Connla Sprouts, Ueymags etc. in most efficient manner and..... I was about to puke. The only thing I like less than Duvari is mining. That's my Duvari experience.

[@rugino3614]

Finally, peak pedro Pascal gameplay

[@animatt1881]

I thought the story was bizarre like the writers gave up half way through it. It's like there's a concept to be conveyed yet there is no purpose to the story at all. Like what is the doll supposed to represent? being whole? You can vaguely understand what the story is trying to say but it's all based on intuitive allusions and there ends up being no real meaning to it at all. I thought the story was terrible. The alternative gameplay was good though and it is pretty interesting to see the devs add a new addition to the game mechanics... although it is rather wonky.

[@vKILLZ0NEv]

That's Warframe's story in a nutshell. Overly obtuse to a point of absurdity. DE genuinely SUCKS at story telling.

[@animatt1881]

@@vKILLZ0NEv lmao

[@tylerwarwick7975]

It's possible that after watching this my perspective of Duviri will change but as it stands with what little experience I have in the game overall I'd say Duviri is phenomenal as far as the concept is concerned but the concept doesn't really seem to translate all that well into the practical which sort of drains the fun out of it faster than it should. I'm hoping that this video will give me some perspective into how it works and maybe even make it more fun because right now it just seems like another possibly pointless grind.

[@synthwave465]

Sorrow spiral is just not completable on PS4. I've done it seven times and had to abort mission every time. also, the whole "you get rewards up to your last selected decree" thing isn't working either. If I leave before orowyrm, I get nothing.

[@schrodingersdog5512]

I've completed the sorrow spiral at least a hundred times on ps4. Sounds like a skill issue to me

[@ari-mariberry]

Decrees *do* save your rewards - the mission end screen is just bugged to not display anything. Also doesn't work with Kullervo's Bane.

[@bruakumfd2845]

It's nice you get to try different frames and weapons you might not have at the moment, but those times when the game gives you a stick, and a rock gets irritating. A re-roll or access to mods would be great.

[@chainsawplayin]

All the default builds are awful, you're lucky if you find a good mod like CO or viral on even one weapon. I also hate that decrees only ever give you corrosive damage, but never Viral.

[@concernedviewer2887]

@@chainsawplayin on normal mode the builds are good. before they start getting bad the decrees have long picked up the slack. but on steel path it is immediately apparent that the builds are terrible. unless you get one of the few guns that are good regardless you are basically fucked. your only saving grace is to hope for a either a gun you have built for steel path or an incarnon weapon

[@r-saint]

Forced Undercroft is meh, but overall it's a masterpiece!

[@maxim30]

Soooo. What is the story exactly?

[@excaligaming2435]

it is pretty much self contained and thus completely irrelevant to the greater story arc (which is already barely there after taking hundreds of turns). Duviri is basically a fantasy world of another Drifter (a version of you, which didn't acquire void powers during the zariman incident and wasn't able to escape) manifested in the void. All the characters, names etc. are from children's books or are some version of a Zariman crewmember/friend.

[@maxim30]

@@excaligaming2435 thanks buddy. More of the same. Shame how badly they fucked this game up.

[@lookalike4805]

The Story is Pathos Clamp Farming in Another World also Bugs 👀

[@lemnajcavite]

Warframe : Duviri Inside Out

[@miguelcabreracastro6968]

steel path should give us 30 pathos clams or 20. I dont like roguelikes,(if you have a bad roll just let yourself get killed or restart, the randomness is more a pain than a enjoable thing) but this experience was really enjoyale and at least the things you can get are worth. I would say that the undercraft is really annoying on duiri experience, speccially because you sometimes get bad rolls or your equipment, i dont know how someone can fin fun playing with random equipment, it gets old fast, ut at least the mayority of times you get something to play with. And no, the random equipment havent done anything fo me to exit the confort zone... at the contrary, i usually only use one weapon, i dont like switching weapons, i have more fun shooting with one o going full melee, but switching between those is extremely annoying.

[@NerdishGeekish]

I liked it.

[@zenerstorm95]

I genuinely hate that The Duviri Paradox teaches you how Void Flood works and makes it a base Undercroft mission type. Here's a question: Where in the game are you able to play the only Void Flood mission? That's right, the Zariman. How do you get to the Zariman? That's right. THE NEW WAR. They could've chosen any mission and instead they chose a mission type that only appears once in the entire game and is locked behind a long as hell quest line which you'd get to quicker by doing the MAIN PATH.

[@LEAN_Monster]

i really really dont like having to do the undercroft in duviri, it feels so boring having to do warframe stuff when it’s supposed to be a new experience, it should at least be optional as its such a slog to get through all but extermination in undercroft and even then i could just play normal warframe.

[@kennethfocarino7075]

I like it but they gotta chill with Diet Souls. I’ve never understood the appeal of Souls games, but it seems like it’s the difficulty tied to the combat system, not necessarily the combat system itself. You can very rapidly get your driftor to OP one shot power fantasy territory (like WF) but it’s still trapped in the slow, methodical Souls combat system. I assume block/parry/dodgeroll/attack style of Souls is fun because you HAVE to use all these mechanics. With max driftor intrinsics and a few decrees, you can brute force your way through no problem. I feel like driftor should’ve had more “Devil May Cry” esque flash and flare to his combat. Right now it just feels like playing Souls with an Easy mode, which idk who that appeals to. At best, all Driftor feels like is a soft play test of what Soulframe will improve on.

[@GoldWabbitG]

Duviri is a empty world. There’s really nothing outside the circuit.

[@ViburaBlanca]

I know this got one like but you’re right. Now you have 2 likes.

[@GoldWabbitG]

@@ViburaBlanca thank you .

[@AmsZero]

You can't have your sound so high then cut to a cutscene that sound muted!

[@lookalike4805]

Yeah I also Found it Weird that Content Creators still don't do Basic Volume Mixing in 2023 😱

[@FotoAquatica]

Oh yeah boy

[@Violent_APC]

I hate how it wasnt something explained to you. For me i was just slapped into it thinking its the actual game

[@humu39]

Until this video was put out the story made absolutely no sense as a "vet" I find it a little irritating even if i pay attention to the upmost degree and personally they should have left the undercroft section out of the drifter parts

[@NovaUmbral]

Until I played through it again for recording footage yeah.... the first time around I was just as confused. Having a replayable paradox quest option would have at least resolved this issue.

[@TroglodyteIQ]

Yeet

[@cristoffis]

loki vid pls pls 👉👈

[@Visigoth_]

*game audio is way too low*

[@nanosmokex6998]

Am I the only one who hated the story while everyone else was complaining about bugs, glitches, and Drifter combat

[@vKILLZ0NEv]

lol 6 months later and Duviri is still a buggy incomplete mess. "there's more to come" lmao 😂 Bruh, this is DE we're talking about. They don't revisit previous content. Their entire design philosophy is fire and forget.

[@Phillipmurr]

yeah people still asking for more Rail jack stuff lol they scraped everything planned for railjack when it flopped hard...

[@vKILLZ0NEv]

@@Phillipmurr Same with archwing. Non-Warframe content NEVER does well. I have no idea why DE are so obsessed with making something other than Warframe. Hopefully now with Soulframe being a thing they can channel all that nonsense into that game lol

[@Phillipmurr]

@@vKILLZ0NEv unfortunately, the opposite seems to be true ,Duviri was created to be an acid flip for Soul frame. They share the same engine so they would’ve took the base code and animations and built off of that for so frame. It’s so obvious. But now warframe has majestic animals . Spell book weapons. There’s no consistency or integrity with their story any more either.. I think I might be jumping over to helldivers 2, for my looter fix

[@rinnowoph]

yooo

[@justinleffingwell8277]

I've grinded EVERYTHING IN THE GAME this is the first game mode in which I will buy everything, or not I don't care, I absolutely HATE duviri

[@itsKimi]

Duviri could have been so much more.

[@dariusmnc9153]

Not tryna sound rude or anything but can u explain how ?

[@itsKimi]

@@dariusmnc9153 better "quest" design, instead of running the same "story" every cycle to begin with there could have been way much more diversity, add more diversity in objectives as well, orowyrm fight feels like a complete joke and needs to be completely reworked as an actual boss fight, "an ever changing world" yeah the sky change but nothing really change in duviri from 1-2 islands that appear or not, duviri could have used some of that random generation tech to change it's world even further or at least something to make it feel really different every cycle and mood change. undercroft feels so under used from a lore perspective and gameplay wise, they could have created new game modes for it just like they did with zariman (jackal boss fight will come with future update but again..... it's the jackal fight nothing too fancy about it to begin with..) overall duviri could have been way more than that, just look at the concept art for it, dive into the lore of it more and just look at what we already got with every open world they added, it's always just islands, nothing really breathtaking or different about them in proper ways that will make you think or play differently.

[@MagikarpMan]

@@itsKimi use paragraphs man, seriously

[@dariusmnc9153]

@@itsKimi but do you enjoy it or u rlly dont?

[@dariusmnc9153]

@_Velvette_ I agree with da jackal boss like its cool but they should add a new boss cuz da jackal has its own boss , it's in fortuna and the razorback is a "stronger version of jackal"

[@bleepin]

Farmed the heck out of this place cause of the stuff you need for Circuit things. But I don't like going here, it's very boring for me

[@TiredWings8]

Duviri and the circuit are just too buggy. I despise doing it.

[@James-9999]

De as a studio might have some of the worst open worlds in modern gaming

[@sumkindacheeto]

Outside of the circuit being a way easier place to farm warframe parts, the whole Duviri story arc just feels like a warframe shtpost. Just disconnected plots being played out and retroactively rewritten.

[@thedisappointedoptimist6916]

Ngl. I hate it. It's clearly a test for something else and I hate it for being in warframe

[@awiseauthor3456]

Honestly, I didn't like Duviri. I love the gameplay, and everything, but the story... First off, it spoils The Second Dream, War Within, etc. which for me was the whole reason I played through the game. Second, the story had ZERO answers to the questions that we all have had since TNW. I really want to like it, but story is one of the most important things about Warframe for me.