The Earliest History of the Nicolaitans

[@MarlonOwnsYourCake]

It's not often I get to see people talking about Christian history and use actual historical research or say things like "I'm not sure" thank you so much for this and God bless you

[@taceyw1135]

So does that mean a certain church of once saved always saved, Nico's?

[@NightmarePoliceX]

325 ad the bible was altered at the council of Nicea Islam is the way

[@mele2456]

@@NightmarePoliceX Jesus is the Way

[@Keepitoriginalministry]

​@@NightmarePoliceXif you truly love God. Then I promise you that CHRISTIAN PRINCE will teach you how horrible Islam is. KZbin CHRISTIAN PRINCE

[@jeremyrobbins9064]

Testimony of Jeremy Thomas Robbins: When I was a young man I enjoyed what most young party going men liked, such as girls, beer and drugs. I would have sex with any girl, any time and anywhere. For so long I am not sure how many I have been with at this point. I had little to no morals nor cares about anything really. The only thing I held onto was my word as I was taught when I was a child, that a man is measured by his word and to keep your promises. So, IF I said I was going to do something, I did it no matter the cost. That being said, one night I awoke from my sleep. Sat up in my bed and vocally promised myself I was going to read the bible. Not sure why, to this day I still have no understanding as to why I made this my word. So I sobered up and started to read..... and read and read more. Turns out the bible is a rather large book and it was taking me some time to do it. But I gave my word and I kept on reading it and as I read it the words where convicting my soul. I could feel something in my heart start to turn and became uneasy. Then one night, when I was asleep. I awoke to a presence in the hall at the end of my bed. I could see something was there but I was not able to see what it was. Then I heard a disgusting noise coming from it and I told it. You're disgusting!! Then out of the silence, out of the darkness I heard. YOU ARE TO And it grabbed me. Then I awoke not knowing I was in a dream as the entire dream was where I was and how I was. "Never had a dream like this before and never had another like it again." The crazy part.... I still felt right where "IT" grabbed me, as if the tightness of its grip was still on me. To say the least I have seen something that is not normal nor good. There are evil things in this world we can not explain nor understand but I know as true as the air in my lungs. Spirits are real and so is God. This is my testimony.

[@yeshuaschild209]

Praise be to God. He opened a door so you could see what awaited you if you did not change your ways

[@robynrob4867]

I too, have a similar experience. I was baptized in 2014. The night of the day I was baptized, I came home feeling refreshed and satisfied. Then, as I lay down on my bed getting ready to sleep, I said a prayer of thanks. Then, out of nowhere, a whisper in my ear "You're praying, but you're sinful." I told that accusing whisperer, "Sorry, I'm not yours anymore." And that's the only time I've had an encounter with the evil forces. To think it would go that length to cause me to doubt the gift I just received. It just shows how each soul is valuable to God that the devil would do all it can to snatch people from God's hands. The Bible says, resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Your waking up from sleep and making a promise to read the Bible is God calling you to know Him more. The Bible is the mind of God. To know Him, reading the written Word is a must. During Jesus' temptation, He didn't fight the devil by showcasing His power. He fought the devil by quoting Scripture. I pray He keeps building us in our most holy faith.

[@billquantrill4960]

The demonic realm is very real and we encounter it every day. Those created outside the law of creation in Genesis 6 are trapped here and 24/7 lust for our damnation. This is why we are to put on the full armor of God.

[@dipakchowdhury31]

I too ‘saw’ a figure approach me whilst I was in bed. I had just woken but my eyes were still shut yet I was seeing as if they were open. As the figure approached I opened my eyes and it was gone. This was circa 2019.

[@holdthewinds]

Thank you! I appreciate this. I will be using some of this to teach to my Bible study group.

[@keelion3443]

Thank you very much for this video; I got a lot of information from it. May God bless you.

[@rejbrodeur7069]

There sure isn't much material available concerning the Nicolaitans. I wish there was more. Thank you for your compilation and comments.

[@austin6174]

This was super helpful 🙌

[@ebsss100]

I haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m gonna subscribe I love when people talk about things that aren’t usually talked about. God bless!

[@ljones98391]

Very thoughtful study. I also have never accepted the often supplied definition as simply a word study (which I think you referred to as a reverse engineering.) Since the Nicolaitans were mentioned multiple times as being hated I think it important to try to understand what they were doing.

[@BradleyHigginsMinistries]

Very well done video. Thank you for this resource

[@ricksteen935]

I have been studying this passage for years. Why could it not be all of the above. These two passages in Revelations already cover the sexual immorality issue, so it seems to be a bit redundant. I tend to think that, having seen what has been touted from the pulpits of many congregations, that it also means what you have argued against. Pastors have led their congregations astray with drag shows and prosperity gospel. Could it mean “power over the people”? Look at the desire for numbers in the congregations yet not the desire to help those that are already there to mature in the faith. We live in corrupt times, within in our congregations and our governments, where seeking power over others is blatant and the immorality is higher than imaginable. Lust, greed, power are all twisted into being goals of our modern faith, and wrongly so.

[@midwestmamma3]

Very true

[@RealDefinitionsMatter]

I would add, any church preaching against God's law, is doing the work of Satan to receive the masses. This is nearly every church. It's creating lawlessness while pressing the name.

[@Keepitoriginalministry]

I totally agree with you. And God always goes by the meaning of people's names also. Plus peter and Jesus told us to don't Lord over the flock. So regardless of the nicolatians or not. It's still stands strong. That pastors need to stop ruling over God's sheep. Just like the catholic church does

[@jesussaves2822]

True. The spirit of the Nicolaitans is still evident in this generation and even more vivid than before. Maranatha- May the Lord Jesus Christ come soon. Come Lord Jesus come.

[@BradyJay_USA]

@@Keepitoriginalministry are the Eastern Orthodox bishops introducing drag shows, or is the Christians who don’t submit to them? Pretty obvious it’s the latter.

[@pamhays4443]

I appreciate your scholarship

[@TheActualLiz]

Oh, i am so subscribing. Very well researched. Please make 1,000 more like this.

[@tkoghdn]

Great video.

[@rhlove666]

Nicolaitons. What's the beginnings of the Catholic Church. . Controllers of laity . Is exactly what started back then. Where the priest stand between man and God and control every aspect of their salvation.

[@mikebisgrove962]

Very interesting study

[@justinotherpatriot1744]

Excellent. Thanks for this. God bless!

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Thebloxfruitsledgend]

Thank you for a very informative and factual study.

[@danielyoung7727]

This is essentially the same as the error of Balaam. Leading the people of God astray and thus to destruction. Impostors accomplishing the destructive desires of the devil.

[@RevivalistsforChrist]

I would love to have you on as a guest over on my channel to discuss this more. Is there a good way to get in contact with you?

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Good morning. I’d enjoy that. You’re welcome to email me at [e-mail] and we’ll go from there.

[@notallgarbage]

Thank you very much

[@JenesisLilithSchaBer]

Thank you for sharing.

[@CA-LOVEFORJESUSCHRIST]

I'm glad I came across this channel, Thanks for sharing I needed to here this explained just like this, short and sweet, I looked up, Who are The Nicolaitans...I was reading Revelation again and it hit me What Jesus Christ said, how he hate them, so I want to hate who he hate, and love who he love.

[@followingjesus2028]

This was very helpful thank you!

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

You're so welcome!

[@rosemaryrojahn584]

Haven't watched yet but reading comments. Intend to listen. Agree with one on particular. Churches aligning with the state are in danger of allowing man's rule to override God's laws. 501c3 is how it starts. Covid is a prime example.

[@chuckwieser7622]

The greek word Nicolaitanes and hebrew Balaam have similar construction and meaning. For Baalam it is Strong 1104 (destroy) and 5971 (people). NOW I'm not sure if The greek word Nicolaitan and Nicolaitane is the same word. I assume the 'e' is only a conjugated suffix. However, this is very coincidence. To have such similar words relating to each other, seems to make a case for this word being a deliberately 'term' (for lack of a better word) instead of the name of a teacher or a sect. I was also wondering, would a person's name like Nikolas normally be converted into a name for his followers in Koine Greek? Would it be formed and conjugated in a way that would lead to the creation of the new word 'Niko-laitan'. Afterall, we are of 'Christ-ians' but were not called Christ-laitans. And we were are the 'people of Christ'.

[@jonatangeorgsson4391]

Thanks for a great explanation!

[@Ocean-ht9gn4nn8j]

You want info on Nicolaians, Buy the Book by Lew White ( Fossilized Customs The Beast Is Unveiled) 12th Edition, page 292. Excellent Book, full of Truth.

[@glmiller5894]

No need. This video covers the early church understanding.

[@DedicatedtoYAH]

“For from ancient generations Moses has had his preachers in every town, for he is read [aloud] every Sabbath in the synagogues.” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭15‬:‭21‬ ‭AMPC‬‬

[@maineiax]

The word Nicolaitans is Greek, defined in English as A conqueror or destroyer of the people. All churches can fall within this as they operate via the doctrines of men being contracted with the STATE. The contract even says they have to put the doctrines of men before the Commandments of God.

[@maineiax]

@@JasonMcAllister-d9g Thank you for responding to remind me of this video. Since writing my comment, I have come across new information, but Im not sure how to put it to words here and not have it disappear. It was your reference to Balaams doctrine which is related to what was going on in the Days of Noah and days of Lot. Balak was a prophet of Baal which means he got his powers from Baal most likely from some ritual performed on him as a child to make him a prophet based on what happens later to the Moabites. All the Israelites who participated in the Moabite ritual to Baal were killed by a plague and then God sent Moses to kill all the men, women and male children of the Moabites but to spare the maiden Moabites. When God wants something destroyed, it is because it has been corrupted in some way that cannot be fixed or fixed easily. An example is when Joshua was sent to destroy the peoples of Canaan. In some of those Canaanite cities they had to kill all the animals too due to misusing them in their rituals, which tells us sex crimes were a big part of spiritual rituals to Baal. Based on some recent information I found on Spiritual deliverance and how those in the occult worship their master, its possible this doctrine was related to secret sciences of the human brain and the development of it when a human being is between the ages of 2 and 4. When they are ritually abused from behind, something happens to their mind that causes them to go into a trance and be programmed using unclean spirits. We are given examples of unclean spirits in the Gospels with the devils that could not be easily cast out of some people except by fasting and prayer or by knowing their name, ie: Legion. Today, this ritual is used by secret societies and govt agents to create mind controlled slaves. So the doctrine of Balaam would have made him like god to the moabite people who had gone through this ritual. They were made into mind-controlled slaves. And will be again during the end times when all kings give their power to antichrist as then much like it is becoming already, it will be like in the days of Lot which was probably like in the days of Noah. The act used in these rituals opens a portal for devils to enter and drive ones vessel, also making them double-minded.

[@I-Choose-The-Light]

Facts ! No go a little deeper. They still exist today.

[@NMMD1531]

Thanks, great teaching. I agree with everything you said. I believe there is an additional aspect about this group that is overlooked. The economic support for people to live an extreme Hedonistic lifestyle is slavery. The Roman Empire was built and maintained by this institution. The main source of slaves was from war captives. Openly speaking against slavery and inciting rebellion would be get you crucified. Paul always promoted work in exchange for food even though he could have lived off of generosity. Notice also fornication is a specific reference to “stalls” in Roman Amphitheaters were spectators could pay to abuse war captives. The coins of Ephesus and Pergamon displayed Roman Legion Standards which show how integral the Roman War Machine was to their economies. Jesus hated the economic doctrines of the Roman Empire and what they did to people. War and slavery are the real deeds of this lifestyle. Remember the Colosseum was built by Jewish war slaves from Herodian Second Temple treasure.

[@jaylintz1683]

Thank you that was good information

[@jeffeBrannon]

The instruction in Acts 15 was the minimum the former pagans needed to do to be able to enter into the Temple area and be taught on each Sabbath the Torah. We have a 2 part series on the Nicolaitians on our channel The Way Remnant. Nicolas was influenced by Simon MAgus and Cerenthus. Very fascinating study, and I am so glad you didn't go down the path that is taught in Seminaries.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

It’s interesting how “to whom we gave no such commandment” and “to lay on you no greater burden than this” becomes the minimum the former pagans need to do. IF this narrative were true, then it would be mentioned somewhere in Scripture and early Christian writings. In fact, it’s just the opposite. And quite a few of the early pastors and apologists go to great lengths to lay out in great detail this fact. To be clear, by mid first century, I’d say that no Christian was habitually visiting or even welcome in the synagogues. Certainly not after 92AD. A fact that IF your narrative were true would be just the opposite. I do appreciate the comment tho

[@salpezzino7803]

I see you are in the Hebrew/Jewish roots cult. Verse 21 sends no one anywhere

[@RealDefinitionsMatter]

​@@firstcenturychristianity6864 Pray for understanding and the heart to lay aside precepts of men for the commandments of God.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@@RealDefinitionsMatter I’m afraid you’ll have to elaborate. Not sure what point you’re trying to make. What exactly is the spirit supposed to be showing me? Exactly?

[@AMDAVID365]

Thank you for the clarification.

[@DedicatedtoYAH]

Thank you though for this video.

[@time-motion]

It is using faith as an excuse to live a sinfull life, and not apply yourself to repent of our sins, and disregarding the law, statutes and commandments. Profaining the blood of out Lord and Saviour.

[@deedavis1950]

Well done!! Thank you!

[@DDFergy1]

Nice job. Makes sense.

[@ILIYASTEFANYUK]

I believe this teaching came from Nicolia of Antioch who was one of the candidates in Acts chapter 6 to become an Apostle. He was never chosen and became a deacon, eventually losing his way. He was a pagan, converted to Judaism, converted to Christianity. He had no issues meddling pagan world with the christian world.

[@tkinnc1]

Thx for digging up those references.

[@victory3490]

Rick Renner, Who were the Nicolaitans? very insightful.

[@AMRARDvermebrungruppe]

Interesting that all of these references to "fornication" seem to revolve around the use of prostitutes... There was at least one accusation on the Wikipedia article that the "doctrine of the Nicolaitans" was sharing women in common (i.e. swinging). It would seem to be a very important question to answer since this oblique reference in Revelations chapter 2 would seem to be the /only/ Scriptural reference to such a practice, with adultery otherwise always implying to be against the will and/or knowledge of the spouse.

[@wesley3300]

⁠There’s a lot of back-and-forth in this comment section, but I’d like to throw in my two-cents: the etymology you spoke against could still be valid, considering that the clergy and leaders of the Church are meant to be servants instead of rulers (see Mark 10:42-45). If everything that you’ve researched for this video is true, then we are enriched with yet more knowledge; nevertheless, clergy are not meant to be “rulers” over the laity, but rather shepherds and servants (which is, if I had to guess, what most clergymen are at least hoping to be). Those who take up the mantle of minister while acting as rulers over their congregation would also be very likely to justify their own sinful behaviors while setting themselves up as arbiters of the truth apart from what’s been revealed through Christ and the apostles, thus leading people astray. They could be considered the “shepherds for hire” referenced in John 10:12 as well. All that to say: the etymological definition-whether technically correct or not-does still harmonize with the facts that you’ve described. The distinction comes not by the repudiation of Church hierarchy, but rather by the way in which the members of that hierarchy lead their portion of Christ’s flock. Understood this way, there is no tension with clergymen holding to the definition you mentioned in the beginning, because it’s not against clergy per se, but rather against bad leadership…the tares grow alongside the wheat until the harvest, after all!

[@sandywoolen3270]

It may just be the time of year, but I have recently been wondering if these Nicolaitans have any correlation with the St. Nicholas aka Santa ... any thoughts? (Evidence is preferred, but I've only found an AI overview affirming as much...but I'd like a bit more reputable source if possible

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@@sandywoolen3270 The biggest issue I have with that connection is the timeline. St Nicholas lived from 270 to 343 AD. Revelation was written about 92-96 AD. St Nicholas is about 200 years too late to be connected.

[@sandywoolen3270]

@firstcenturychristianity6864 not if the practices of the nicolaitin's continued to be practiced those couple of centuries... If Santa's pratices are similar to the Nicolaitans seems there would always be one to lead this order/group. Nicholas was and still is a popular name. And also, names seem to change to fit one's role in His story I've been learning

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@ I’m unaware of any evidence that St Nicholas condoned or taught anything similar to the Nicholaitans. Seems like a worse theory than the “rulers of the laity” to me.

[@sandywoolen3270]

@firstcenturychristianity6864 not a theory so much as an uncertainity or a curiosity and with such little actual or factual knowledge on the topic, I asked my phone this year and the AI Overview didn't hesitate to affirm this connection. It appears you disagree. I, personally choose to err on the side of safety. I will stick with the Scriptures, which I've not found ANY support for St. Nicholas nor for Santa....

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@ Please don’t misunderstand me. I’m not in favor of St Nicholas or Santa either. My point is that I don’t believe he was connected with the Nicholaitans. Two unrelated things can both be wrong. I appreciate the comments tho. Have a blessed day.

[@JustinDOehlke]

Thank you much mister

[@priestofelohim]

Great teaching

[@Theperspectiveplus]

Thank you sir

[@larrytruelove8659]

The meaning of Nicolatines appears to be what you said, defining a word by the composite roots of the word.

[@alanlegendre251]

His name was nicholas.He was one of the first deacons in the book of acts. I think Acts 6.

[@michaelroots6931]

Seen a recent video that claims that they were a gnostic group. Have you heard this opinion before.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

I’d be interested in the documentation behind that. I’ve not seen anything supporting that claim to date. Not saying it doesn’t exist, just that in all the documents I’ve been thru, it hasn’t popped out at me.

[@ebae7355]

I will choose etymology over extra biblical writing... In the end you essentially agree, as this 'group' is recognized by you and by the context of scripture, as falling under the 'doctrine' or rule of a man!

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@@ebae7355 So God hates the clergy? The apostles, prophets, evangelists, teachers and pastors? The ones that Ephesians 4 says are gifts to the assembly? Because that’s literally the final conclusion to the etymological opinion. God hates the doctrine of the rulers of the laity/assembly? Personally I’ll trust historical quotes of trusted 2nd century Christians over 18th century grasping at straws by people who can’t admit they don’t know. But please, feel free to perpetuate ignorance.

[@ebae7355]

​@@firstcenturychristianity6864nice red herring attempt...lol - I'll TRUST the SCRIPTURES with all it's divinely inspired etymology as given by the Holy Spirit!! NOT the non-canonical writings of others, no matter who esteem them more highly than scripture in it's original language. Those who actually feel free from the will of God to revere the Word, are those who purvey and perpetuate ignorance of the precise language of the Holy Spirit. Through the use of ANACHRONISM, ignorance of His thought is justified by believing more in their 'connection' to these faux authorities, supposedly giving them a higher critical 'insight'. (Ex.: the perversion of Eph. 4 ministries into "rulers" / "clergy". - WOW! I'll take 1st century divinely inspired scripture over anybody in the 2nd, or the 21st century... but then I don't suffer from post scripture confirmation bias.

[@DaughterofJerusalem]

After reading an article by Martin De Beers who makes the case that Nicolas, the deacon, was basically a patsy or scapegoat for the true Nicolaitans based on the etymology that you found. He suggests they were adherents to the intermingling of Roman paganism with christianity which became Rome's state religion. The author didn't venture to the same conclusion I have, which might be offensive. But it seems apparent to me that celebrating Christmas is the practice of the Nicolaitans. And it's St. Nicolas (Santa) who presents as the antichrist, who was, is, and is to come.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Thanks for the comment. Hope you’re enjoying the content. Just a point of clarification, the St Nicholas who history records as Santa Claus, is an entirely different person than Nicholas the deacon.

[@DaughterofJerusalem]

@@firstcenturychristianity6864 Of course sir, Nicolas, the deacon, is not a Roman Catholic.

[@taceyw1135]

After the original apostle's we're dead did the Nico's really take over!

[@zissler1]

They did. That was the falling away prophesied.

[@taceyw1135]

@@zissler1 and they are still in controll some of people are blinded and can't hear! God may say oh well.

[@DiscipleofJesusApostleofMary]

@@zissler1 only non Catholics and Orthodox Christians say these type of things like the gates of hell would prevail against the Church. The Church has been here the whole time. Nicolatians are not in control.

[@DiscipleofJesusApostleofMary]

@@zissler1 the falling away would happen 500 years ago.

[@user-ym9wb2mk5e]

After the Apostles, there were no other people who were gifted with the ability of resurrecting people (none that I can find written about). If it was still possible, imagine how it would be plastered all over the internet. Jesus gave them things that us normal people can't exhibit.

[@PaulShell-ql3md]

John likely wrote under the scrutiny of censors, maybe Roman guards. Inventing a new word to critique a popular Roman ideology such as Neo-platonism, which later heavily influenced Augustine, is a reasonable assumption. Also, John was writing by inspiration of the Lord, prophetically, so that future eras of Church History could see problems in their era and understand the Lord's instruction concerning them.

[@DedicatedtoYAH]

Darn…I was so hopeful you would include vs 21 telling them to go learn Torah so they could learn how to distinguish good from evil as the Torah teaches in the spirit of the law through Yeshua. Most teachers seems to not want to include this for some reason

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Sorry, but that’s not what verse 21 says. It says if they want to learn Torah then they can go to the synagogues where Moses is taught. This idea that early believers were told or commanded to learn Torah is simply unsupported by anything in the New Testament and anywhere else I can find in early Christianity. I’ll just post my response to another commenter about this topic It’s interesting how “to whom we gave no such commandment” and “to lay on you no greater burden than this” becomes the minimum the former pagans need to do. IF this narrative were true, then it would be mentioned somewhere in Scripture and early Christian writings. In fact, it’s just the opposite. And quite a few of the early pastors and apologists go to great lengths to lay out in great detail this fact. To be clear, by mid first century, I’d say that no Christian was habitually visiting or even welcome in the synagogues. Certainly not after 92AD. A fact that IF your narrative were true would be just the opposite. I do appreciate the comment tho

[@DedicatedtoYAH]

@@firstcenturychristianity6864 What about our Jewish messiah Yeshua / Jesus and all the disciples who grew up in synagogues as was their custom? It says they were gonna go to synagogues on Shabbat and learn from Torah as Jesus did all the disciples did and earliest forms of judeo Christians did. Or in a home once they came under persecution right. Scripture says his Torah is NOT too heavy right? Man made it heavy. Just like the papacy did and then used it’s power to do the same thing. I’m not saying one can be saved by Torah apart from the Lamb Yeshua the messiah. But wow what a weapon those books are against wickedness and teach between good and evil. Jesus becomes the walking Word to show us how to live it out appropriately not throw it out. We are literally seeing the cause and affect of throwing out the OT or even 10 commandments. Curses brother, and confusion. Andy Stanley decided to throw out the 10 commandments and guess what? He is so spiritually confused.

[@DedicatedtoYAH]

“For this commandment which I command you this day is not too difficult for you, nor is it far off.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30‬:‭11‬ ‭AMPC‬‬

[@DedicatedtoYAH]

@@firstcenturychristianity6864 Moses is a representation of Torah brother. That’s what I understand. But apart from the prophet greater than Moses it’s the dead letter of the law. Shalom! Just good conversation 😁. I like these discussions. Are you excited to see our savior soon? I am! May we have oil in our lamps

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@@DedicatedtoYAH replying specifically to your first paragraph. The issue with your narrative is that the text doesn’t support the claim. The broader message of the passage is that the Gentiles do not have to be circumcised (which is anti Torah) and that the Jerusalem council is going to lay no greater burden on the Gentile believers than verse 20. These specific restrictions are mentioned two more times in Acts without any command to attend synagogues and the response to the message each time confirms that the supposed “instruction to attend the synagogue or to study Torah” was not part of the message and that anti circumcision for Gentile believers was the new accepted standard by the elders of Jerusalem. This perspective is definitely born out throughout any and all early Christian writings from this point onward. This is something I’ve researched extensively and have found zero to support your interpretation of verse 21 and have found quite a bit of evidence to support the plain text interpretation. I’m sorry but there’s just nothing supporting your interpretation except preferential bias and people trying to make it say something it just doesn’t. Being as you’re pro Torah observant, I’m sure you’re aware of the massive issue that arises with an uncircumcised man observing Torah. Circumcision is the first step of observing Torah according to Torah, Exodus 12:44-49. Anyone who is uncircumcised is not allowed to even “draw near”. The idea that strict Torah observing believers (like the Jerusalem assembly) are gonna remove a critical element (circumcision) but require gentile believers to study Torah is contradictory logic and is a recent invention by some with a partial Torah observant bias. I say partial because presently the most important part of Torah cannot be observed logistically, and if it could be observed it would be blasphemy against Messiah. I’m referring to the fact that Torah commands animal sacrifice for sin atonement and gives no exception or substitute, yet presently, the Torah commanded Aaronic priesthood is extinct, the temple does not exist, and nothing is mentioned in Torah to allow Yeshua to be a substitute sacrifice or for him to qualify to offer a sacrifice. To be a believer requires acceptance of a scenario that is not Torah ratified or acceptable, and acceptance of the crucified messiah makes any Torah commanded atonement blasphemy against a divinely ordained, sacrificed Messiah. From my understanding, it’s impossible for anyone post crucifixion to be 100% Torah observant and a believer in Messiah. If you’ve found a way to reconcile New Testament salvation with 100% Torah observance then I’m all ears. If not, then partial observance is just vain posturing and self righteousness in my view. Especially since early Christianity is replete and inundated ad nauseum with support for my perspective.

[@bevie29]

If there were not so many churches where the leadership fellowshipping with the laity was discouraged then one could say the lording over the laity definition does not apply. However , in many churches, leadership encourages a separation between these 2 groups. It is very prevalent and produces a disjointed unity in the churches and the wisdom that laity does have is scorned and not permitted to be shared with all. The fornication and meat to idols is attributed to Balaam and Jezebel in my opinion. I fthere is no teaching about leaders blocking and prohibiting laity, there should be.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

While I generally agree with you regarding the ecclesiastical glass ceiling/floor, my point in this video is that there’s no historical connection to that definition. It’s literally been a made up definition within the last couple of centuries.

[@he.is.rael13]

Eating foods sacrificed to idols are practices of the law *for* the sin of fornication…. • “For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10‬:‭26‬-‭29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Thanks for the comment. I’m not sure I’m understanding what you’re try to say. Eating foods sacrificed to idols are practices of the law for the sin of fornication. Can you expound further?

[@clintsequipment]

The teaching partly comes from Nikolaus and Balaam have the same meaning. Ministry for personal gain requires a hierarchy😎👊

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Thanks for the comment. In short, I’d encourage you to study the topic of apostasy. You cannot accidentally break covenant, but you can break covenant

[@al-kabeerkabeer2853]

Respect love and blessings; The Futility of Life 1 ¶ There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: 2 A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease. Vanity and vexation of spirit when a people or person practices this spirit and teaches others to do so you are going against God. The nicolaitanes. Rev 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes , which I hate.

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

Etymology of words is a legitimate way yo understand Scripture. Like anything it can be taken too far. I don't know what the nico-laitian doctrine is but considering how very early Church bishops began to lord it over the laity I don't trust their words. There is a doubt about much the early Church writers wrote. We get a sanitized version but when you actually read them you find many bizarre ideas and doctrines contrary to Scripture asserted with certainty and anathema. I personally don't know which to believe but my trust is early Christian writers continues to diminish the more I read them fully as opposed to excerpts.

[@BumperMetcalfe]

Why would you EVER use the NKJV?! That’s a 21st century Christian thing to do if ever there was one. Might as well use an NIV.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Thanks for the comment. For the record I’m not a KJV onlyist. That’s why. Hoping to do a video soon on the Masoretic issues with scripture and theology.

[@cryptojihadi265]

What a ridiculous statement. The NIV is a wild paraphrase of the Bible, while the NKJV just removes the archaic language of the KJV. Language that is so archaic, the reader is forced to reinterpret the words on the spot, anyway. So, far better to have scholars make that conversion than for each reader to have to make it for themselves, in the moment, without the breadth of knowledge or background to do so. BTW the KJV not only isn't THE only true translation, it's actually a pretty poor one. Not only is it written in such archaic language as to be utterly useless, but it's not even close to being the most literal or Christian translation. That honor goes to the New American Standard Bible. It also has SERIOUS errors, like translating Sheol, hades, Gehenna and Tartarus, ALL as Hell. This has led to A LOT of confusion and even heresy about the afterlife and the judgment. Hades and Sheol are just the Greek and Hebrew versions of the grave, but Gehenna is a completely different place, it's an actual place in Israel, but clearly used by Jesus as a symbol or example of the final judgment of the Lake of Fire. In Revelation, Hades gets thrown into the Lake of Fire as proof Hades and Gehenna are clearly not the same thing as hell(hades) can't be cast into hell(the lake of fire). Tartarus is the pit where the arch angels that mated with the daughters of men are bound until the day of judgment. So again, NOT HELL. Another HORRIFIC error it makes is when it says God is the author of EVIL, instead of calamity, which is a much better translation of the word and wouldn't be a direct contradiction of the Bible or a direct assassination on God's character and nature.

[@BumperMetcalfe]

@ you have terrible doctrine concerning the word of God. Pretty arrogant too.

[@BumperMetcalfe]

@ you a wrong about so many things

[@Dr.Reason]

Nico is not rulers but conquerors. A very different result in function.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Can you elaborate on the difference? Do conquerors not subsequently rule over those they’ve conquered? On a side note, apparently I wasn’t clear enough in the video that this definition of rulers/conquerors of the laity has nothing to do with the actual Nicholaitans. It’s a made up definition at a much later date by people who don’t actually know who the Nicholaitans were or what they did. And then repeated by others who are in the same boat. Hopefully this video clears up the lack of info so people don’t have to use a horribly misleading definition anymore.

[@Dr.Reason]

@@firstcenturychristianity6864 I made the distinction here because the video seemed to use the “rulers” interpretation as a reason to reject the concept. To explain: The rulers of the laity is a right and good position when used correctly, while conquering the laity requires that the laity once had a former position that had been changed by the new authority that conquered their minds and understanding. Since the Scriptures speak no more on the subject but to harshly condemn the deeds and works in Revelation, I believe the only other use of Nicolas in Scripture must be a key. The meaning in the name itself. Then add to that Paul’s warning of Acts 20:29-30 and we begin to see an emergence of the concept. This concept is not an invention, but rather simply an interpretation of the name Nicolas: derived by two words, a concept that you know. Oddly, the scriptures speak almost nothing directly of the Nicolaitans and their works or doctrine. I spent weeks combing through the seven Churches of revelation and the book of Ephesians (an entire book written to the first of the seven Churches) using the process of elimination of works and doctrine identified under other titles such as: Balem, Jezebel, lukewarm, etc., looking for what remained. I reached my own conclusions before I then went to extra-biblical sources of the early church elders, who seem to confirm my findings. Lastly allow me to add by way of explanation the concept of St. Nicholas; the conquer of a Christian nation who once focused on Jesus at Christmas but now, by a slow process of desirable and pleasant alterations for society sake, see only Santa Claus secularism on the holiday, to the point that earnest Christians now despise Christmas as Pagan, so in a righteous perspective stop celebrating the arrival of the Messiah. Now THAT is a conquest of the laity, and that’s just an example of the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. I think I failed to make clear that I agree with your work here, with only the distinction I presented. I feel it also important to specify that the I conclude the deeds that became doctrine in the Church which Jesus loosely calls Nicolaitanism, can be summed up as polite tolerance of compromise with the world believing it to honor Christ. I will go so far as to say I believe that includes as the end result the doctrine of extreme Calvinism that believes you can’t out-sin the grace of God.

[@MrAlbino1960]

Nico from Nike godess of victory and lao in Greek people. Nicolau the one who won, overcome or conquer people

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Hmm. Maybe I didn’t emphasize enough in the video that this reverse engineered definition actually has nothing to do with the Nicolaitans in biblical history. Further, IF this definition was true, then it literally means that God hates the clergy, which is ironic because the clergy are the ones who have created this made up definition.

[@taceyw1135]

Funny to think but many things were burnt up mysteriously way back then and then in 1600!

[@goodday23456]

They seem to do that a lot when they want to change things.

[@rebeccaeaton6543]

There’s too much Catholic terms used that cause me to be very cautious with the information in this video.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@@rebeccaeaton6543 I know what you mean. Roman Catholicism co-opted so many terms from the early church. Protestants tend to shy away from them in an effort to distance themselves from Roman Catholicism, not realizing that they are allowing themselves to be distanced from early Christianity.

[@lewishudson231]

In the new world translation it is referred to as the sect of nicolaus I wonder what Jehovah's witnesses know about them.

[@romandaigle455]

Are you a Biblical Sabbath keeper? Sundown Friday to sundown Saturday.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@@romandaigle455 I am not an Old Covenant Sabbath keeper. I observe the same sabbath cycle that Christ did post crucifixion and the same cycle that the first century believers observed. Contrary to the Hebrew Roots narrative, after much searching, I can find no Old Covenant observance post crucifixion. Only First day observance.

[@romandaigle455]

@ give me scripture that says the 4th Commandment has been changed from Saturday ( 7th day) to Sunday ( 1st day) thanks

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@ Umm. No. That’s a question that doesn’t equal what you think it equals. Also you spelled canon wrong. A better question would be why didn’t Jesus observe the seventh day sabbath during the forty days post crucifixion? Zero recorded. How many first days did he assemble with the believers? Two recorded. How many seventh days did the believers assemble post crucifixion specifically for a Christian assembly? Zero. Also how many seventh day assemblies have I been able to find in the first two centuries post crucifixion? Zero. So a better question would be why didn’t the early Church, including the apostles, observe a seventh day worship and instead observe a first day?

[@romandaigle455]

@@firstcenturychristianity6864 thanks Karen for correcting my spelling. Jesus did keep the Biblical Sabbath during his 40 days after his resurrection. Jesus also called it “ His Sabbath “ in 3 verses Exodus 31:3, Leviticus 19:3, 30 and Ezekiel 20:12,13

[@romandaigle455]

@@firstcenturychristianity6864 read Acts the apostles talk about keeping the 4th Commandment, the Biblical Sabbath over 80 times!!!

[@NightmarePoliceX]

Olde saint Nicolaus Merry Christ Mass

[@yeshuaschild209]

Thank you! Bless you

[@goodday23456]

Acts 4:12. AKJVNT

[@girnucci]

What if its the teaching of the Talmud

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Thanks for the comment. Regarding your question, I’ve seen nothing that would connect the Nicholaitans to either the Talmuds or the Masoretics/Rabbinic Judaism.

[@TigerDan925]

Witches then?

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

I’m not sure I understand the question

[@TigerDan925]

@@firstcenturychristianity6864 the Nicolaitans - seem like modern day witches or new age types of people

[@TigerDan925]

@@firstcenturychristianity6864 sorry i replied to myself by mistake

[@Sdvaughn04]

Perhaps….Nicholas was a Sampson and the early church was his Delilah. He held strong to his convictions and beliefs which gathered him a following. However, his peers tormented him and persecuted him to the point he caved in and gave his wife over to them as proof he wasn’t what they said he was. Nicholas started out strong in the Lord in chaste virtue and was tricked into cutting his hair so to speak (gave up his wife to fornication) and everything he once stood for came crumbling down. Therefore some of those like Ignatius spoke of things prior to the fall of Nicolas. Or Like Balaam taught Balak to put a stumbling block in front of the children of Israel to curse themselves so was the fate of Nicholas. He started out strong in chaste virtue and holiness but fell by way of nagging peer pressure surrounding him to the very thing he once stood against. Therefore you have the Ignatius and other commentary of those who knew him before his fall happened. Just some thoughts.

[@fasted8468]

They folowed achoo named nickel less its obvi

[@MrLightvsEAT1]

I know your video is older. But if the answer hasn't been given as to why the Nicolaitians are pointed out to be clergy and paid pastors is Balaam. God uses word definitions to make it clear but also Balaam was a prophet for hire.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

You must have not been paying attention to the video. There is no evidence connecting the Nicholaitans to the clergy. That idea has been made up out of thin air and passed along as if it were true. It is not. While you are correct about Balaam, the two are distinct and completely separate from each other.

[@MrLightvsEAT1]

I thank you for following up with me. I heard your video clearly. Jesus says the Nicolatians follow is the doctrine of Balaam. The way of Balaam. I not sure how can separate the 2. Especially since Jesus said they were the same. Paid preist who lower the standards of God and are full of compromise. I appreciate your video. You did a great job. I don't understand why you would be aggressive, especially since your video asks if someone has an answer. Either way God Bless. Keep up the great work.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@@MrLightvsEAT1 I appreciate your response and the initial comment. My frustration comes from people being sloppy with scripture. I’d encourage you to reexamine the scripture you think supports your claim. I can find nowhere that links the two as one issue. I do have a couple of videos on Balaam that would agree with your claim regarding the clergy. But I am unaware of any connection between Nicholas and the doctrine of Balaam. Either within the canon or in anything early Christianity. If you know of any source material that links the two, I’m always open and appreciative of the reference. My frustration comes from people who regurgitate the fallacy of other people who are regurgitating the fallacy without any evidence to support their fallacy.

[@MrLightvsEAT1]

I love your videos. I don't want to diminish your hard work. I pray your work goes even farther than it already has. I will leave it at this. God Bless you. May He reveal it to you that he and he alone receive the Glory.

[@MichaelTheophilus906]

the Nicolaitans were the first trinitarians.

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

Interesting comment. Why do you think that?

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

@@MichaelTheophilus906 that’s some stellar logic you’ve got there.

[@JesusRocksTryPrayin]

I wonder, is it related to the.. "repentance through sin" thing? Zabatai Zeti or, there was an antichrist, in 1666? Also, Rasputin fell into a group called "the klystes" or something.... where they sin, in order to repent; IDK. I just want Jesus, but being wise as serpents... There is SO MUCH false doctrine, I just wanna repent 10000% and help whoever else I can in the process... God is the best. I hope everyone finds Jesus, but I know he'll get his :) and it's all good in the end!

[@WordsOfMyTestimony]

Laity < Italy - Rome - catholic - church/council Nicoliatans < Nicean...

[@NightmarePoliceX]

Sounds like Santa Maria, Christmas and alot of liberal churches.

[@Bless-the-Name]

Christmas causes children to turn away from the Father - because it instills the notion: happiness is attained by the receiving of material possessions. St. Nicholas is santa (satan). Technically speaking: those who celebrate Christmas run the risk of having a millstone necklace. The problem with Christmas is: it's a front to thank the Father for the gift of Yahusha - but people insist on doing it wrong time of year with pagan idolatry and no commandment in scripture to do it. If you celebrate Christmas - here's my advice: stop the pagan nonsense and only give a gift to the new born so the child remains unspoiled. You can do a rewards based system throughout the year instead to teach participation in society. Then ... sing those carols in to thank the Father for sending His Son in September - if you must.

[@2.3_44XD--]

Revelation is in the future so maybe the Nikoguys haven't even appeared yet

[@onceamusician5408]

Ah, i see!! no, i am not being sarcastic. either the term is the Greek meaning, of the name as you say or the followers of one Nicholas I guessed this myself but then left it at that, not knowing that early Christian writers had addressed the question so followers of a heretic called Nicholas, OR the subversion of a true teaching of said Nicholas, OR his own apostasy from wat he earlier taught seems to be it them. thanks for this. i was going to say that the info was forever lost and we could not know

[@milesstoneman]

Allowing that there might be no documentation of Nicolaitans is a good beginning. But assigning the heretical group to the Nicolas of the Seven is just as undocumented. Notice the little word "also" in Rev 2.15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. "Also". Meaning along with, or "and", indicating a separate group. Nicolaitans might be those who, like Diotrephes "loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not." Written as you will know by the same Apostle as the one who penned the Revelation. Finally, note that all of your examples come from men who were "preeminent" among the brothers. This, at least, should inspire us to put an asterisk next to their teaching of "who" the Nicolaitans were. The systems of government of the church became more and more "man-made" and therefore corrupt as time progressed. Surely Jesus hates this. Note: Luke 22:25-26a And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so:"

[@firstcenturychristianity6864]

I appreciate the comment, but I dont understand your comment about assigning the heretical group to Nicolas as being undocumented. Thats literally what I did with this video. Each of the comments is footnoted as to who wrote each of the comments and in which document it can be found. I am also not a big fan of the ecclesiastical hierarchy, so it seems that we are likeminded that way. I’d encourage you to check out some of the other videos on my channel regarding that. Specifically the video on the Doctrine of Balaam. That being said, I can find no supporting documentation to support the “rulers of the laity” perspective in the era I consider Early Christianity (the first two centuries). This perspective seems to be manufactured in the Reformation age (some 1300 years later) due to a void of knowledge of who the Nicolaitans actually were. If anything, it seems to be a crude attempt at reverse engineering who the Nicolaitans were. Anyway, I appreciate the comment and I hope you enjoy the other content of this Channel. I’m currently working on my next project which is Who wrote the book of Hebrews? I hope to have it posted in another month, God willing.

[@taceyw1135]

A repeat of the laws like the Jews and YOSHUA is the highest PRIEST AND the last, all others under him are who, mother brothers sisters, no levels of being seperior to Him.

[@taceyw1135]

What do we really know after the original apostle's? Surely someone wrote maybe Hebrews wrote about these as some call us YOSHUasfreeks not the Greeks!

[@hansscheib7610]

The book of Revelation has a number of names and everything has is significant meaning in itself. There is proof that a wellknown Believer is a man who created what Jesus Christ himself hates(!). The struggle for power in pride is Satans original Sin in his attempt to overthrow God. THAT hates God. So when all the powerstructures, not biblical founded, take over by the 1.) deeds of nicolaitism (maybe power conspiracy) and then to consolidate the succsess

[@hansscheib7610]

By doktrin

[@I-Choose-The-Light]

The Nicolaitians still exist today !

[@AbrahamsBridges]

Paul taught the doctrine of the Nicholaitans. He claimed that idols are nothing, and that followers of Jesus are allowed to eat meat sacrificed to idols as long as it doesn’t become a stumbling block. He wasn’t an apostle. Pay attention to what Jesus is saying. Paul never met Jesus. Paul never taught the teachings of Jesus. They were only 12 apostles and Paul did not fit the criteria of an apostle, according to the book of acts. He was self appointed and had no witnesses for his vision who can testify of what he claimed to have heard.

[@goodday23456]

Paul didn't teach what you said. Paul explained that an idol was nothing. Everything good comes from God, and an idol is nothing/false god/graven image. It cannot do the things that humans do, although today they're trying to make graven images that can do as humans do: robots filled with demon spirits and/or man-made spirits, as those idols were back then. And idols, certainly, cannot do anything that God can do. God can outdo a demon or a man any day, any where. Therefore, it's nothing. In Jesus Christ we are at liberty to do whatever, because we've been set free from the law, but we should not, as Paul pointed out, take that liberty to give us occasions to sin against God in Christ Jesus. Our Liberty in Christ Jesus is NOT a license to sin. Being set free from the law is simply not a license to sin. The law is our schoolmaster that shows us how wretched we are before the One and Only Holy and Righteous God in Christ Jesus. The law shows us what God expects from us, but the law will not save you. Yes, you should obey God's Commandments and Rules, because they are right and just. Breaking the law leads to death, which Paul told you that "the wages of sin are death/ consequences." While trying to keep the law, if you fall short, stumble, fall; you have an advocate (attorney) before the righteous Judge Father in heaven, whose blood by our obedience to Acts 2:38 covers our mess-ups in Jesus Christ. Paul was stating, that if you went to a feast with a Gentile, and he told you it was meat sacrificed to idols, that you should not eat it, if you know that, but if you didn't know it and you ate it; it wouldn't matter, because an idol is nothing but a graven image made from material that God made in the first place, and even if you knowingly ate it; it wouldn't matter either, because prayer cleanses stuff. (1Tim. 4:4-5). (What many pagans did then, and still do is mix their idol worship with sexual orgies, which was sin, as well as adultery and fornication against God, and each other.) Thus, breaking the law of God. (Exodus 20). I think it's evident Paul preached against Idol worship. Paul tells everyone throughout his writings that Idolatry is a NO. (1Thess. 4:17; Luke 10:5-10; Gal. 4:1Corr. 10; Gal. 5:13-25; etc.). He does not say it's ok; it's not. He simply tells you that it's nothing but ritualistic nonsense, because an idol is nothing, and what those who do those things are doing is sacrificing to demons (disembodied, fallen, evil spirits.) Paul was directly spoken to and chosen by Jesus Christ on the Road to Damascus. He repented, and got up and was water baptized and received the Holy Spirit directly from Ananias, a disciple of Jesus Christ. "Walk in the Spirit and you won't fulfill the works of the flesh," and you cannot do that if you don't obey Acts 2:38. Acts 2:38 saves. AKJVNT

[@sheridanpayne5347]

Vitually everything you claim here is NOT true. Clearly you do not know the Scriptures. Paul did NOT teach the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. Paul DID preach against idols, as does every true Christian teacher. The Book of Acts specifically FORBIDS the eating of meat sacrificed to idols. Paul WAS an apostle, apointed by God Himself. Paul met Jesus on the Damascus Road. Paul knew the teachings of Jesus, as witnessed by his fellow apostles. Paul clearly met the criteria of an apostle, as he was 'a sent one' to the Gentiles, appointed by God, and his divine calling was divinely confirmed by a great many signs and wonders, as recorded in the Book of Acts, as experienced by many, many witnesses. So I perceive, sir, that you are a false teacher, appointed by .....yourself! I solemnly urge you to repent, as your soul is in great danger. The truth of God's Word speaks for itself.

[@AbrahamsBridges]

@ who is Paul to say that an idol is nothing, and all that matters is a clear conscience? There should be zero pagan temples in the promised land. Jesus flipped over the tables…what would he say about his followers pagan temples in the land or, much worse, his followers placing eating food that was unclean?

[@EL-imadawg4u]

@@sheridanpayne5347 It is true Paul did not encourage his converts to eat food sacrificed to idols, and there is no evidence he ate such food himself, but he did not forbid the practice either. He discouraged it but only if done in the presence of those weak in the faith; those who did not know the gods the idols represented were not real. In my view, Paul was correct in saying "Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do" (1 Cor 8:8), but in the very next verse he states that to eat it is his followers' right (liberty, KJV) or privilege. When Paul accepted the Council's letter (Acts 15), a letter stipulating four requirements for Gentile converts, he also accepted the "right hand of fellowship" from the Jerusalem disciples as a token of good faith (Gal 2:9). But did Paul act on it in good faith? Did he read this letter to his formerly pagan followers in Corinth and exhort them to abide by it? Judging from his letters, he did not. Instead, he seems to have adopted a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy regarding the first stipulation: "that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols." This could be construed as a betrayal of the trust extended to him in Jerusalem when he accepted that right hand of fellowship. There is no mention of this letter in Paul's epistles. In fact, we would not know such a letter existed if it were not for Luke and his Acts of the Apostles. Perhaps we should apply the one tried and true test to this issue and to all issues regarding faith and practice: What did Jesus say? To answer that, we need not speculate. It is there for all to see in Revelation Chapter 2, verses 14 and 20.

[@EndTimes-u7p]

the practice of pagan holidays , maybe it just sounds that way. the chapter is speaking or refers to the practice of balam .idols and compares it to nicoliatans ( doctrines )