The Early Medes and the Median Empire (History of Ancient Iran) | Supplemental Podcast #3

In this video podcast, we'll take a look at one of the most overlooked peoples of ancient history, the Medes, and reconstruct their early history using Assyrian, Babylonian and Greek sources, namely Herodotus (the Medes don't have any primary sources of their own). It was the Medes and the Median Empire that laid the foundation upon which the Achaemenid Persian Empire of Cyrus the Great and his descendants rested upon.
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[@janqamishlo8576]

Thank you for this information about the Medes, the ancestors of the Kurds. In Sulaymaniyah, in the Kurdistan Region, there is a Qazqaban cave, in which there is the tomb of the last king of the Medes.

[@HawreXYZ]

It’s in my village 😊

[@saliksayyar9793]

It is said ancestors of humans came from Africa, not true for Kurd?

[@JojoBojob]

@@saliksayyar9793 Ofcourse, the most ancient ancestors of mankind came from Africa, and the same is true for Kurds. But the Medes are the ancestors of Kurds, not the MOST DISTANT ancestors. For example; Your most distant ancestors came from africa, but that does not necesarily mean that your father or grandfather were africans. Hope that answered your question.

[@lotus7540]

Med language is classified as Western Iranian Languages ​​just like Kurdish, it is the ancestor of Kurdish, 15. In a sacred text written in 7 languages ​​in the century, the Med language is also included. H.W. Some scientists such as Bailey, Henning, Shanidze and David Neil MacKenzie examined the text and said that the text is the same as the Kurdish.

[@iranianwarrior]

You forgot Luri and Laki and Balochi

[@kurdistan1091]

@@iranianwarrior Laki (Kurdish: له‌کی, romanized: Lekî, Persian: لکی) is a vernacular that consists of two dialects; Pish-e Kuh Laki and Posht-e Kuh Laki. Laki is considered a Kurdish dialect,by most linguists and is spoken chiefly in the area between Khorramabad and Kermanshah by about one million native speakers.

[@kurdistan1091]

⁠​⁠@@iranianwarrior Baloch Luri Kurds=Medes

[@iranianwarrior]

@@kurdistan1091 Yes I already know that. My grandpa was a Lak and he spoke Laki, Luri, and Kurdish

[@iranianwarrior]

@@kurdistan1091 And Gilaks and Mazenis too

[@kalle1453]

Any Kurds in here?!

[@arist0krates]

Here! Biji Kurdi, Biji Medei.

[@Born2Fight4Life]

MEDES --- THE REVIVAL. WASSUP!!

[@Watchmaty]

Kurd people are so strong and honest

[@ozcanpaylan169]

I am half Kurd. My mom is Kurd, my dad is Cricaucassian(Adige)

[@redhornsms2649]

Ci bu! Em li virin! Tu ku derey!?

[@Midya_G]

As a kurd I’m really grateful for this video u made and thank u for your effort

[@anaskurdi5275]

E. Sloane and Vladimir minorsky described the Kurds as "the son of medes". Much respect and thanks for this great video I'm hewrami - Kurd from hewraman.

[@EzKurdim1]

@@Ardonbb assyrians are not Kurds

[@EzKurdim1]

@@Ardonbb they are not We still have Assyrians today

[@EzKurdim1]

@@Ardonbb they are Semitic they wish to be Aryans

[@EzKurdim1]

@@Ardonbb median are Kurds but not Assyrians

[@EzKurdim1]

@@Ardonbb Karda yeah I know that was a place near Assyrian empire but it wasn’t Assyrians it was Kurdish Inshallah we will create our Kurdistan

[@empiremediankurde8562]

In the Middle Ages, some historians called the Kurds Med, and interpreted their wars with the Kurds as Med occupation. Median language is included in the class of Western Iranian Languages ​​just like Kurdish. Median is also included in a sacred text written in 7 languages ​​in the 15th century. H.W. Some scholars such as Bailey, Henning, Shanidze and David Neil MacKenzie analyzed the text and found that the text was in Kurdish.

[@whitenigga4165]

@S U ok turqo

[@yguc9342]

The language doesn't represent the origins of a nation or a race. According to your logic, the Kurds in Turkey are originally Turkic because they speak Turkish..

[@Flamma7777]

​@@yguc9342 One thing is sure with or without facts and evidence, u all in middle east were arameans/assyrians a long way back and today the same and in 2000 years from now... the same.. Only changes is the culture, language and religion . Father forgive them for what they don't understand, god bless.

[@yguc9342]

@@Flamma7777 we are here for more than 12000 years and and the mid east is a huge region and the bridge between Asia, Africa and Europe that hosted hundreds of different ethnic groups for thousands of years. We are not only Arameans and Assyrians. They played a small role in our history.

[@Flamma7777]

​@@yguc9342 unfortunately you are completely wrong, the first population was the Sumerians around 6500 years ago, then I am talking about history, facts and evidence. I'm telling you basically you are all the same but have different cultures and traditions, the problem started with to Arabic that's when Islamization started in the late 8th century when they chose to erase the original language Aramaic and its history through imams who then brainwashed the misguided people and divided the community. The problem with this whole mix of peoples and different languages ​​etc started with muhammad who was thrown out of the church in damascus because he did not agree with the church, he let his wife's uncle who was a priest (waraka ibn nawfal) to write his book because he could neither read or write, the priest wrote the "Quren" =write in aramaic.. and was efferently murdered, then muhammad was hunted by everyone because he chose to defy the holy bible and put the messages and words from his own perspective, this also happened because he had a big ego and felt bigger than others... had his story not existed, you would supposedly be called Arameans or Assyrians today but from different countries, and wars would be against the Jews and not against each other, think how wonderful it would be if everyone was united in the Middle East like for example Europe.... then after many invasions with muhammad's successors the mother tongue was no longer needed so they chose arabic as the mother tongue after all the dominance in the warpath. as well as translated the Quren into the Quran from the mother tongue into Arabic. They did everything they could to erase the language and history after Islam became dominant. People went to war misled by imams and did not know that they were at war against themselves.

[@chakibashi267]

thanks for showing our history of media love from a Kurdish person

[@empiremediankurde8562]

Wadie Jwaideh, a professor of history at the University of California, said: "The Med Empire, one of the prominent ancestors of the Kurdish people, is the first national state established by the Kurds.

[@MadKingOfMadaya]

@S U Van Bruinessen has been bought out by Islamic nation since 1998.

[@MadKingOfMadaya]

@S U Why don't you do your own research if you "doubt"?

[@lenal.4485]

@@MadKingOfMadayaçünkü Kürtler dağıldı ve bir devletleri yok

[@empiremediankurde8562]

Med language Median language, or Median, was a Western Iranian language spoken by Medes. It belonged to the Northwest Iran subfamily, which includes many languages ​​such as Kurdish (Sorani, Kurmanji), Zazaki-Gorani, luri Laki Gilan and Beluch.

[@kamyaresmailzade]

@kristina zboodram Actually the people mentioned in this comment have similar looks to the Ancient Medes (The Mada) as well. Their language sounds a lot similar, While the Luri language sounds a bit like the Ancient Persian as well.

[@kamyaresmailzade]

Something to mention here, is that the Kurdi language sounds a lot like the Ancient Mesopotamian languages as well. And from what I know, some scholars actually say that the Kurdish people might have Mesopotamian roots as well as Iranian.

[@kristalomar8888]

Medes language is closer to hurri and sumerians than persian language which is indo European, we are nor descendants of indo European, our language, costume, religion was different from them

[@kristalomar8888]

@@kamyaresmailzade you're right but about iranians except medians, they were indo European with no Mesopotamian root

[@lavieenconfinement3511]

@@kamyaresmailzade this is true Kurds have Mesopotamian, Anatolian, Caucasus and Iranian ancestors. Many civilizations brought kurdish people today.

[@gotian6649]

Kurdish from urmia We hope median empire come back☀️

[@Ardonbb]

Inshalla 👑☀️

[@kianabah]

im a Medes descendant but Iran has had way better empires

[@houseofsuren510]

@@kianabah Media is Iran

[@kianabah]

@@houseofsuren510 yes it’s iran

[@Berxwedan.]

@@kianabahit’s not

[@deathblade111]

The Medes are so interesting! Thank you for everything you do on this channel.

[@HistorywithCy]

Hey, my pleasure! I'm so glad that so many of you are into this stuff...it inspires me to put out more. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Stay safe!

[@Zanna444]

Kurds are descendant of meds but today we have been divided over different countries. Those countries even destroy any historical evidence if it serve history of kurdish in this area. For example in 20th century in iran they changed one of the graves of meds for their advantage. In our national kurdish anthem we say “ We are the descendants of the Medes and Cyaxares Kurdistan is our religion, our credo, Let no one say Kurds are dead, they are living They live and never shall we lower our flag”.

[@lotus7540]

The first historical document showing the bond between the Medes and the Kurds is in the Kar-nâme, mentioning Erdeşîr I Papakan (242 BC) as the Kurdish king of Med.

[@gha1934]

kurds are the descendants of medes(maybe) not vice-versa. in 242 BC there were no kurds.

[@matina4552]

I've read the Kar-namag, and in it the Kurds are mentioned several times, though Ardashir lived in 180-242 AD not BC.

[@ÖmerÇelik-x2v]

​@@gha1934😂😂😂🧐?

[@adem6732]

They aren't mention as kurdu but iranic

[@jeffersonwright9275]

The story of Cyrus the Great being raised by a shepherd is such a worldwide trope! It occurs in the Bible & 1001 Nights and shows up Ancient Greek legends especially Oedipus. It even pops up in CS Lewis’ story The Horse and his boy, except the father is a fisherman rather than a shepherd!

[@tvrulz46]

Moses, Mahabharat's Karna, Paris of Troy and countless others

[@soniahemmati2372]

Actually according to many prominent schalors of religion, the Persian religion of Zoroastrianism also had a strong impact on the development of Judaism and through it on Christianity and Islam as wel, which is also interesting.

[@tvrulz46]

@@soniahemmati2372 very difficult to say which influenced the other precisely and when due to the obscurity of the origins of both judaism and zoroastrianism

[@soniahemmati2372]

@@tvrulz46 Yes I know it is difficult. But still, most scholars well trained in both traditions, conclude that Zoroastrianism most likely was the source, since the level of antiquity and originality of these ideas In Zoroastrianism seem to be much more clear and they also predate the earliest Jewish sources by the centuries. But it's not really even that important which one was the most likely source. As an Iranian, even if it was Zoroastrianism, it doesn't make me proud at all that it ever had anything to do with the development of the ludicrous Abrahamic religions, all of which are very misogynistic, justify or even promote slavery and they have an insane, enraged God that tortures people constantly. I agree that Christianity is more peaceful, but still they consider the old Testament, which is full of racist, hateful, genocidal commands by an insane God, as part of one of their holy book and it has been used by Christians to justify various crimes including genocide and slavery. Islam is also an Arabized and universalized version of Judaism. Mohammad obviously believed the stories of the old Testament to be true and was very much inspired by them and considered himself a Moses of sorts, with all his destructions, plunders and attacks on the non-believers. The main difference is that at least, in the old Testament, those commands to murder, plunder and the enslave non-Jews is limited to the so-called promised land, but Mohammad copied and expanded this theory to the whole world and that's basically how Islam began.

[@tvrulz46]

@@soniahemmati2372 fair enough. As someone who has no vested interest in any of these religions I want to provide an alternative perspective of the vengeful Old Testament god. It may not be that he was insane but rather playing a necessary evil to guide a still nascent human collective consciousness through a master plan which we can not comprehend. Killing a certain tribe may have been necessary to facilitate humanity but that does not mean god did not have ,erect on those victims of genocide. They may have been taken to some other special place of gods choosing befitting and recompensing their fate which is apart from paradise or hell.

[@jannestiemes4328]

I feel like you do the voices of the Assyrian kings just perfectly.

[@HistorywithCy]

haha thank you! You're in luck, there'll be more kings to quote in upcoming programs. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!

[@bau4409]

@@HistorywithCy "just how much horses he got and from who" best sentence. :D thanks man, keep up the good work!

[@lotus7540]

In the work that examines the history of the baluch written in the middle ages called kurdgalnamek, it is written that the Kurds and the Baluchs are the descendants of the Medes.

[@bocajunior4912]

MEDES KURDSH EMPIRE

[@dancemonkey118]

They are persians.

[@hashiramasenju5354]

@@dancemonkey118 no they are not they are kurds

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

@@dancemonkey118 True

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds. Medes/Medians were Iranian and they were related to the Persians. I am a Medes from Persia/Iran. Kurds are not Medes.

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

Medes/Median were Iranian. Medes/Media was Iran. The capital of the Medes is in Iran and it is a Persian city. Even the traditional Kurdish clothing bear no resemblance to the Medes/Median clothing. But the traditional clothing of Persian and Lur Iranians is similar to the Medes/Median clothing. And the Luri language is a dialect of old Persian. All Medes/Median cities today are Persian cities. Persians and Medes/Medians mixed together.

[@aidanmagill6769]

Thanks for this. It's really hard to find good content on the lesser known (and even some of the better known) civilisations.

[@HistorywithCy]

My pleasure, glad you liked it. I have some more lesser-known civs coming up...some of them I didn't even know about until relatively recently. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!

[@TheObserversTV]

Important thing to note is that an Assyrian king is the representative of Ashur and is considered the 'high priest' of Ashur in the nation. Interesting tale about King Sargon II, in 705 BC, Sargon II returned to the rebellious province of Tabal and did not know about the alliance it created with the Cimmerians, so Sargon II charged at the Tabal/Cimmerians and was killed during battle, the thing is though, his body was taken by the Cimmerian alliance, and Sargon II never had a proper burial, and in Ashurism (Assyrian religion), if the Assyrian king did not have a proper burial, his spirit would be cursed to haunt the lands forever.

[@HistorywithCy]

Yup, that's correct. I think that's also why Sennacherib seems to have gone out of his way to distance himself from his father. He probably thought that Sargon II's excessive worship of Marduk meant that he was abandoning Ashur, which was perhaps why Sennacherib felt that when Babylon revolted, he was justified and would even be protected by Ashur should he need to resort to subduing the city with great violence. Assyrian history is so fascinating and really in my opinion is so much better than any work of fiction. Anyway, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it. There's are more Assyrian history videos on this channel if you're interested. Thanks again and stay safe!

[@زهراءيوسف-ر5ز]

Im Kurdi Im son of Medes ❤️☀️💚✌️

[@kianabah]

Hamedan doesn't even have Kurds tho. Im Persian and before there even was a Persian empire my ancestors have been living in Hamedan (Ecbatana) for as long as I can go back.

[@personalmobile9421]

​​@@kianabahdear Kiyana more than half of the population of Hamedan are still Kurds , since the reign and dictatorship of pahlavi dynasty , the process of turkification and assimilation of Hamedan has begun , lying in not good for your skin 😂 I see you under every historic and cultural videos about Kurds , seems like u are a paid propaganda spreader , the end of percian fascism is about to end.

[@personalmobile9421]

True​@Adanzeyehalilibrahim

[@gubruikertje]

Wow I actually saw this before I got the notification

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks, good to hear! Hope you find it useful or learn something from it. Thanks again, stay safe!

[@Emcee_Squared]

Love learning about early Iranian history. Great video!

[@HistorywithCy]

Love providing it! There's a lot of it coming in the next few months. As always, thanks so much for all of the support, I really appreciate it...I know it sounds like a broken record but stay safe!

[@Emcee_Squared]

History with Cy thanks, I look forward to all your content!

[@lovelyartin]

These are all Iranian Peoples!

[@ariebrahim2011]

Medes 🦁 kurds not iran is pasia🖕😏

[@lotus7540]

In the Middle Ages, some historians called the Kurds the Med, and interpreted the wars they waged with the Kurds as the invasion of the Medes.

[@SweetOne968]

I wish there were more KZbin channels like yours. I admire this content

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it! There will definitely be a lot more on the history of ancient Iran coming up in the next few months...stay tuned and stay safe!

[@nazacro]

Thank you for this video about Medes! I'm a huge fan of them so it was a delight to learn something new.

[@HistorywithCy]

My pleasure, glad you liked it! More to come on both the Medes and the Persians, stay tuned and safe!

[@rusarmysambo]

Also let's not forget that the Medes are united kurdish tribes and only when the kurds are unified/united are they referred to as the MEDES.

[@zhirtaqana966]

everyone knows the medes are kurds without someone who hate us😌❤

[@Trinath_Narayan]

In Rigveda the dasarajna war describes iranian tribes like parsu,parthava,vaikarna,bhallana,pakhta,simyu,alina etc... Then after mahabharata and purans tells about madra tribe associated with them...

[@jb0433628]

I read that when historian first read the description of Nineveh in the bible, they dismissed that such a large city could have existed at that time, until it was found by archeologists.

[@dominiqueblagojevic9447]

They also claimed the Hittite empire did not exist from the Bible but then they found archaeological evidence in Turkey.

[@jb0433628]

@@dominiqueblagojevic9447 And it's true of a multitude of historical events, I was watching a video "Evidence for the Bible (with Brian Edwards)" showing a few such examples. There is also very solid physical and historical evidence all over the place for the flood of Noah, "Mega-Sequences' Evidence for the Global Flood" and "90 minutes of evidence for the global flood" with Dr. Kurt Wise.

[@dominiqueblagojevic9447]

@@jb0433628 Yes. Not to mention that most every civilization has a flood story even in china they do. We the Bible is the true word of God.

[@dominiqueblagojevic9447]

@Anonymous No one cares about your opinion.

[@michaelhowze8198]

@@jb0433628 The evidence is that there was a massive flood that hit the Near East. Not the whole world mind but when the tales were written they would've believed it was.

[@Noobfantasy]

My man your videos are priceless. Much respect 🫡

[@luisaymerich9675]

I'm glad you do your own narration. With all those foreign names I wonder how a robotic voice would have botched the names.

[@HistorywithCy]

Haha thanks, I didn't know that people still did that. I've seen a couple of older videos on health and related issues have a computer voice which is just weird. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!

[@empiremediankurde8562]

There are opinions among historians and travelers in many periods, especially in the early period, that the Medes are among the ancestors of the Kurds. The first historical document showing the bond between the Medes and the Kurds is in the Kar-nama, where the Papakan I 242 BC referred to Ardashir as the king of the Kurdish Med in his war against the Kurds.

[@3angels.Rev.14]

Great!!!

[@personalmobile9421]

Thanks for talking about Kurds , since we lost our country and got divided among 5 countries , unfortunately no one recognises us ❤️☀️💚 but good news about the independence of Kurdistan can be heard , long live my friends 🫂

[@salamyaya162]

Your country was the Ottoman Empire.

[@personalmobile9421]

@@salamyaya162 ottoman empire was Kurdish Empire so yes ottoman empire is Kurdistan.

[@m.b.y6130]

When the Medes entered the Zagros, they merged with the Kurds, and the Kurds are the original Iranian people.🦁🇮🇷

[@alexanderdaeva8931]

Kurds are one of the original peoples, the Aryan tribes are many

[@Tacticalerth]

Majus

[@matrixxx3662]

They didn’t merge with Kurds because Kurds didn’t exist back then. They were called Guti by Sumerians and Akkadians and raided neolithic people In Northwstern Iran. Their descendants called themselves Kurti which became kurdi and later kurdish.

[@rojvankoc7252]

Medes and Kurds are the same, like Iranian and Persian

[@ariebrahim2011]

Kurds orginaly from kurdistan iran country was kurdish country

[@josephgonzalez8138]

Keep it great work. This is one of my favorite channels.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much, I really appreciate the kind words...more to come for sure, stay safe!

[@lotus7540]

Although Profesor Gernot Windfuhr has based the Kurdish languages as the lower layers of the Medce, she said that it is also similar to the Parthian language.

[@saeedmodanlou1874]

The mythical story that Herodotus mentioned in his book is a Median story that was made for Cyrus II. The purpose of the creator of the story was to explain the reason for Cyrus's kindness and his soft nature. However, Herodotus got some part of the story wrong and thought that " Spaco" which in Median language, means "Dog" was the name of shepherd's wife but was the name of shepherd's dog. The story wants to tell that Cyrus suckled a dog nipple and drank milk out of it, when he was an infant. Dog was a cherished and well treated animal in Medes society as human's best friend. Median were Horse breeder and the dog was a useful animal for herding horses. Dogs were also useful to give a warning to them of Assyrians and Scythians attacks before they reach to their cities and villages. There is one account that says: When Hephaestion died in Ecbatana, Alexander destroyed the temple of Anahita in Ecbatana out of rage. There was a statute of a dog beside the statute of Anahita. m

[@Bra.1]

Respect for you 😎😎😎

[@HistorywithCy]

Thank you, appreciate it...stay safe!

[@Bra.1]

@@HistorywithCy I Stay safe But 🇹🇷 🤫🤫🤫

[@Berxwedan.]

I swear god even our grand ancestors were fighting for freedom, her bijî Median Kurdistanê✌🏼☀️

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

What freedom, my brother? Your ancestors killed the indigenous people of Iran, like the people of Elam. You are evil

[@deheradewera545]

Gid made us to fight for Justice, go back to Summerian block, the Guti trieb was fitghing them in the 3-d melleinum😂😂😂

[@Berxwedan.]

@@deheradewera545 lol that's crazy bro.

[@shahryarvinsent5901]

The Medes are also the ancestors of the Azeris! According to genetic tests, Azeris and Kurds are genetically very similar! I hope one day the Azeris and Kurds will revive Median atropatene ! 🔥❤️🫂

[@Yusufsnmz07]

The Medes and Parthians are thought to be the ancestors of all northwestern Iranian-speaking peoples. Old Azeris also spoke an northwestern Iranian language.

[@deiocesgutium4187]

Medes are kurds not persia

[@lovelyartin]

These are all Iranian Peoples!

[@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326]

lovelyartin kurds have mixed origins both iranic and non-iranic so in fact they are not iranic

[@lovelyartin]

@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326 You can be stupid but you can let all be stupid! haaaa

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

Medes Iranians have nothing to do with you Kurds.

[@haven2526]

Kurds gang wya ☀

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds.

[@Mandarah-o8m]

@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran Iran is not land of persians, most of persians empire is kurdish, persians didnt exist, we kurds was in Iran way before persians, persians came from western india, go be educated, medes were anicent kurds, todays DNA medes are closest to kurds both with language and culture, stop claiming our history like yall took western Iran which is kurdistan, go be educated kid

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

@@Mandarah-o8m No, the Medes never called themselves Kurd. Kurdish clothing is not similar to the Medes clothing. And the capital and main cities of the Medes are Persian cities, etc.

[@Mandarah-o8m]

@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran Ecbatana was capital of median empire which is a part of kurdistan, it is a kurdish city with kurdish population Stfu

[@doctorbrad]

Thank you sir! this video means a lot to me

[@seige82]

Hey Cy, Thanks for making another great episode! I really enjoy listening while I work.

[@HistorywithCy]

My pleasure, glad you liked it! Thanks for stopping by and stay safe!

[@rubenducheny2788]

Very informative! Thanks for all your hard work.

[@mittanikingdom6506]

Medes = Kurd

[@anotheryoutubechannel4809]

6:00 Interesting that Bactria was already famous!

[@fdadachanji4635]

Nice podcast, love listening to this while doing work in the background!

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks my friend, I really appreciate it... glad it helps...stay safe!

[@AlenOfAshur]

The fall of Assyria was not just brought down by the Medes and Babylonians, but by many elements. Shamash-ShumuKin, AshurBanipal’s older brother, whom was so jealous, conspired against him, because he felt he should have inherited the empire and not his younger brother, whom realistically was more apt from all aspects. This weakened the empire, treachery within. The fact is that it took a coalition of Babylonians, Medes, Elamites, Scythians and Persians to bring down Assyria, and yet even that alone was not the whole story of the fall. A scientific article published a few years ago says the fall of the Assyrian Empire began 200 years prior with devastating climate change in the region, and this emboldened all of Assyria’s enemies to muster up against her. All these elements led to the ultimate fall of Assyria , but it is false to conclude “ Assyria would never be heard of again” because under the new Median, later Persian and Parthian empires, Assyrians served in their Armies and Royal services, and Assyria continued being called Asoristan and Athura. You should read the books, Ancient and modern Assyrians, and Nineveh beyond the fall of Assyria. There are sources in there that confirm all of this.

[@martaakh8105]

Iran great culture and glorious civilization then and now

[@anuraganand3874]

Medea must have came from "Madhya" which means Middle in Hindi and Sanskrit and also there are reference in "Mahabharat" Epic

[@justinpeterburford]

Cy is awesome. Love this channel.

[@Tarihi552]

its not old persian its old kurdish language🤨

[@Golshanim]

Superb. Very complete presentation of the Median people. Ecbatana or Heckmataneh means place of gatherings. Apparently it had 7 walls each a different colour. It’s well worth a visit in the modern city of Hamedan.

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi! Yeah I've been to that area once, just for half a day to see the Ganjnameh inscriptions. Beautiful area though, remember going to a restaurant and being invited by a Kurdish family to join them. Another interesting place not to far from Hamadan that I'd like to visit in the future is the fortress of Tepe Nush-i Jan. It's probably the most complete Median site ever to have been uncovered. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!

[@Golshanim]

@@HistorywithCy I loved the beautiful waterfall next to Gangnameh

[@HistorywithCy]

@@Golshanim Oh yes, I remember that! It's a beautiful area...that and Kermanshah also is nice!

[@kurddelasemsur0280]

Em kurdim ✌🏽

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

Kurds are not Medes.

[@theheroesjourney7770]

@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran cry baby cry 😂

[@cydia1720]

@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Irancry lmao Deicoes the first king of Med rose hes state from Rojhelat,Kurdistan moderne day

[@onefeather2]

Love that you pronounce the names right so one can repeat and learn. History is interesting and so informative thank you for the information and research.❤❤😊

[@bugsytv6852]

You the have best videos man. Though I don’t always agree with some stuff, I agree with a majority of what you say it’s amazing work bro thank you for taking time to help others understand brother. Bless you, in Jesus name, amen. ♥️

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks glad you like them and have been watching several from what I see... appreciate it and am flattered! I'm always thrilled when I that people are learning new stuff. Thank you, stay safe!

[@Peschi123]

We are Kurds the Medan are our Ancestors... Ty 4 ur Support :)

[@karzankurdish7957]

Yes medes are Kurdish empire

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

Medes/Medians were Iranian and they were related to the Persians. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. Medes/Median were Iranian. Medes/Media was Iran. The capital of the Medes is in Iran and it is a Persian city. Even the traditional Kurdish clothing bear no resemblance to the Medes/Median clothing. But the traditional clothing of Persian and Lur Iranians is similar to the Medes/Median clothing. And the Luri language is a dialect of old Persian. All Medes/Median cities today are Persian cities. Persians and Medes/Medians mixed together.

[@rajanya157]

​@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iranमद्रदेश आर्याणां देश ईरान। अब धर्मभ्रष्ट होकर वेदनिन्दकनास्तिक आर्यद्रोही हैँ।। 15:09

[@thaliathern7551]

Thanks 🌷🌱🌺

[@farmanosman2759]

Greate old kurdish people history from Middle East

[@lovelyartin]

These are all Iranian Peoples!

[@shkark9945]

@@lovelyartin hhhh

[@bara5426]

@@lovelyartin?

[@araminmecianic3663]

Thanks for this great video 🙏🙏🙏 And of course i like and subscribe your channel . 😁😉

[@michaelhowze8198]

@@lovelyartin There's a substantial amount of Kursish people in Iran isn't there?

[@outoftowners92]

Love your content bro!

[@HistorywithCy]

Thank you, more on the way, stay tuned!

[@sultansaladin1135]

Yessssss thank you so so much..

[@HistorywithCy]

My pleasure, I'm so honored that the great Saladin Ayyubid stopped by! Stay safe!

[@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326]

History with Cy Video about Ayyubids is also sounds good.I have read book about Ayyubids.

[@aryanboy8409]

we are all Aryans💪🏻❤🌹🙋🏻‍♂️ Medians❤ and Persians❤ are one people and one history and one Blood. we love you. from Tajikistan🇹🇯❤🌹🙋🏻‍♂️

[@kurdekibedin1347]

@MHD 11 no they were not Persians

[@aryanboy8409]

@MHD 11 brother no difference between Persians and Kurds, one and the same people. I myself, as a Tajik (Persian), do not understand the Sassanian language, but there are similar words but I do not understand. today's Persian is the language of Samanids that is Bukhara and Samarkand (deolect of Asia).

[@aryanboy8409]

@Ardaşire Korde Lorestanî My dear bro 🙂🍀 ( brie min dli mni❤ ) I said i'm kurdish i'm tajik i'm irani. for me there is no difference. the difference is just different dialects.

[@aryanboy8409]

@Ardaşire Korde Lorestanî Bele brie min. Ez qurbane Kurdanim.❤ Her biji merdumi Kurde ma ve Her biji merdumi Tocike ma.🌹❤🙋🏻‍♂️🙂

[@karzankurdish7957]

@@aryanboy8409 I love all Aryan people but medes empire is Kurdish empire

[@brewmaster212]

Now we wait for the Next Medo-Persian Empire.. but we won’t have to wait long..

[@merxasezman986]

Meds are Kurds

[@bahaamin8950]

Well done mate

[@HistorywithCy]

Thank you! Stay safe!

[@lotus7540]

The Armenian historian Heyton (Hethum), who lived in the 5th century, says: “In the end, the Arabs lost the rule of Egypt; and Medes; “They were called the Kurds.” They dominated Egypt

[@derrickybarra3657]

In the Median text do they ever mention the the 12 tribes of Israel going into slavery?

[@Maelum_]

excellent work! I am slightly confused though since looking at the title of the Early Median and Persian Kings - Deioces, Cyaxares, Astyages and Cyrus the great, it feels like you've already covered this subject a few months before.

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it and glad that you also saw the other video. That was a short, condensed story of the Medes and Persians showing their relation to extent... in this podcast, I wanted to just go through some of the early sources that were specific to the Medes as well as go into more detail about their history since often, it gets tangled up with Persian history. I'll be talking a lot about Persian history (that was/is actually my specialty) but I thought before that, I'll give the Medes a special episode. Once again, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it! More to come soon, stay tuned and safe!

[@Golshanim]

Excellent video. Well done.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much, I really appreciate the kind words. Stay safe!

[@Golshanim]

You need to do a video on the Scythian’s and all the various people associated with them. Please join the Scythian Group on Facebook if you can

[@Golshanim]

Do you think it’s true that the Magi were a sub tribe of the Medes based in Rey and they had their own Avestan dialect and where the hereditary priestly class of the Medes?

[@HistorywithCy]

@@Golshanim Herodotus says that they were one of the tribes of the Medes, but that's the only place I've heard this. There is a small Zoroastrian cult in India called Ilm-e Khshoom that believes in a bunch of Magi secretly living in Mt. Damavand who speak only pure Avesta and practice a very high form of Zoroastrianism, but this is just a splinter group and not related to the Medes. There is also a tradition that Zarathushtra was born in Rey, but again, there is no proof of this and based on the Avestan dialect of the Gathas, he was mostly likely born somewhere in Central Asia. If I learn more I'll let you know. Thanks again for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!

[@HistorywithCy]

@@Golshanim Working on it! Oh I didn't know there was a Schythian group... I'll check it out. Thanks!

[@hoomanm1935]

Guys, they were a group who traveled with Persian groups to Iran and they were PERSIAN , I'm a Persian kurd and first I know myself as an Iranian next a kurd .

[@JamalDabiri]

❤❤

[@Brainsteve]

Her beji kurde Kurdistan..

[@gha1934]

what's that got to do with MEDES ??!

[@ailuvkurdistan]

@@gha1934Kurds are the descendants of MEDES. BIJI KURDISTAN

[@ClockedUp1]

what already frustrates me even at the start of the video 0:38 is that how the artifact carved out of two medes is in a british museum and not somewhere in iran where its ment to be.

[@danas4065]

Do we know anything about before them and who where they ancestors? I’m very curious as I don’t know much about them

[@Quran_inkurdish]

I dont let them steal my history, dyiako was the first king created medes empire

[@Quran_inkurdish]

@Arkam Knight they were separated like now.

[@debztully1339]

Awesome!

[@theitineranthistorian2024]

excellent

[@ianison9820]

Is there any link between the Biblical realm of Midian & that of the Medes?

[@selahaddineyyubielkurdi4051]

medes are kurds biji kürdistan long live kurdistan

[@anusirvan11]

No

[@brightburnedits4278]

Kurds are iranic

[@selahaddineyyubielkurdi4051]

@@brightburnedits4278 yeah ı know :d

[@brightburnedits4278]

@@selahaddineyyubielkurdi4051 iranic history is best history in history long live iranic people🇮🇷🇦🇫🇹🇯😎

[@selahaddineyyubielkurdi4051]

@@brightburnedits4278 long live my dear brother greetings to tajiks from kurdistan

[@kurdforever1]

Medaain. Kurdstan Kurdish Bji kurdstan

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes.

[@kurdishart5952]

Medes are kurdish empire

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

Kurds are not Medes.

[@seyithan73]

@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran ez qûze dayîka tennim

[@dorianphilotheates3769]

Greetings to the Great People & Civilization of Iran from your ancient frenemies: the Greeks!

[@KAZVorpal]

The Greeks would have pronounced that "Meideis" (two syllables, unvoiced S), not "Meedz"

[@Midiec_]

Мидия Курдистан ❤

[@atillathehungry3145]

The Median Empire was a fair to middling empire.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it. It was a pretty powerful state indeed... stay safe!

[@aidanmagill6769]

Boom boom! 👏👏👏

[@stephenrioux6821]

The Medes were an important outlier. I call them a ''Monkey-wrench Culture". They rarely became predominant. but they could always swing the balance of power.

[@lovelyartin]

These are all Iranian Peoples!

[@gutiumkingdom65]

MEDİAN EMPİRE = KURD 🦁💪

[@masonmadmanhpk6]

They are Kurdish

[@mithridatesi9981]

Don't say it like that. Yes, Kurds are the descendants but not only Kurds. Different Iranian tribes are also descendants of the Medes such as Zazas and Iranians from modern day mazandaran

[@masonmadmanhpk6]

@@mithridatesi9981 lol sure

[@alexanderdaeva8931]

@@masonmadmanhpk6 Kurdish is a Iranic(Aryan) language, national state of Iran and Iranic is not same however interlinked. Basically its Aryan(Iranic) tribes. Azeris, Kurds, Persians, Lurs are all Iranic(Aryan).

[@masonmadmanhpk6]

@@alexanderdaeva8931 no they are not tf they have different language

[@masonmadmanhpk6]

@@alexanderdaeva8931 go learn about history

[@asokarim4536]

Medes=kurd ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran]

No, Medes Iranians have nothing to do with you Kurds.

[@melvinjones3895]

I liked and learned. Thanks a lot looking forward to the next one. And the one after that.

[@HistorywithCy]

My pleasure, thank you for watching, really appreciate it! Lot's more on the way, stay tuned and safe!

[@MadKingOfMadaya]

*_I can't help but notice Cy has not given a single like to any comment referring to the Kurds._*

[@fatemea6552]

Irans history 🇮🇷😊

[@fatemea6552]

@Bazz medes were lurs actually not kurd. btw kurds are one of the Iranian races

[@fatemea6552]

@Bazz haha I am lur too. Nd we are not kurd at all. you just call lurs kurd to make fake history for urselves just like turks lol If u re lur speak luri to me I'm waiting

[@fatemea6552]

@Bazz u speak kurdi not luri u re assimilated kurds calling lurs kurd is an insult to lurs. dont try to steal others history lurs re southwestern iranic ethnic groups while kurds are northwestern ethnic groups we are not even close to each others lol ای چی که مو ایسا وت ایگوم لورین نه چی که کردل سیت گوتنه ای تو لوری بیدی ایسا کوردی آویدی کوردل تاریخ هویت لرر دزینه تونم دلت خشه لری نه تو کردی لر نیسی

[@fatemea6552]

@Bazz kurdistan is only the land of kurds in arabic and turkic County U should leave lurs, zazas alone

[@fatemea6552]

@Bazz lol u even use kurdish keyboard you re not lur مو سیت ایگوم ای چی ک تو گپ ایزنی لری نی لرل ایطو گپ نیزنن بیشتر خوته مسخره نکو

[@blaircolquhoun7780]

The only source I read about the Medes was V.M. Hilyer's A Child's History of the World, (1924).

[@viveliran7509]

Medians were not Kurd But modern day Kurds Azeris and Talyshs have Median Root

[@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326]

Azari people disappeared long before,the Azeris are not Azaris btw

[@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326]

Tat people are only medes of today

[@gcrecords1731]

@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326 azery hazara is turkhis iranians or mongolics iranians in antics tyme kazak tribes scityians

[@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326]

G&C RECORDS ????🧐🧐🧐🤨🤨🤨

[@freezeyou-Always-Frozen]

Azari should be iranian but we see azari turks. They are not azari anymore The main tribe were kurds MEDES ARE KURDS

[@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326]

Kurdish nationalists loading...

[@ozcanpaylan169]

Ok bro, be calm! Median Empire was a Turkish empire. No problem. Happy your bullshit eid

[@lofibaloch52]

Turgay

[@starletsmokey3508]

Lol Medes empire were Kurds? Kurds had an empire? Seems like this is all new history that someone tried to keep it secret from us lol

[@stephenmichalski2643]

Seems a common theme with these ancient kings.......boasting and bragging of their deeds.......like they have to convince themselves and everyone everywhere of their greatness......I guess some things never change.....death....taxes...arrogant heads of state.Every country seems to have been cursed with such personalities at one time or another.Too bad humanity hasn't learned much from the past.Another video well done.....informative and enjoyable as usual.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks my friend, glad you enjoyed it and always great to hear from you. What you mentioned, for better or worse, are all common themes in world history. We as humans don't change too much over time! Thanks again for stopping by and stay safe!

[@nothingbutthefunk4785]

ok what bothere me is u say they are persian ,, thats not true ! medes are kurdish

[@qolalite6001]

Im a Mede❤💛💚

[@justdawn9636]

Fantastic

[@joyreinhardt7621]

At 7:42 min. I see something that causes me to wonder, if 'this mountain' could be 'intentional' !

[@HistorywithCy]

Yeah that's Mt. Damavand in Iran...I intentionally put it there because I mentioned Mt. Damavand. thanks for stopping by, stay safe!