I had one of these when they first came out in 2004 for £400 when I was 14 years old on the family farm, I had absolutely no problems with it and put 10’s of thousands of pellets through it, fondly remembered.
@CliffordShute6 жыл бұрын
Bought my brand new. 22 mk2 s16s in 2006, 500 quid Inc bypod and full moderator. still one of the most accurate air guns i ever fired. drop a rabbit at 35 yrds. on the range pellets hit same spot every time. only downside is the cocking mechanism, but used to it now, and the weight. Still use it for pest control. Brilliant gun.
@chriswerb74825 жыл бұрын
This is a really, really informative and entertaining airgun channel. I'm enjoying every minute catching up.
@blackpoolairrifles93115 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris :)
@russdouglasagw81516 жыл бұрын
This was so much fun to be invited along / involved-with, I have to apologise for unknowingly wearing a black T-shirt ...had no idea we'd be looking at all-black rifles (d'oh!) The lovely lads at BAR have since kindly loaned me a Mk2 Leshiy, which I've been reviewing & have nearly finished testing for an exclusive Airgun World magazine article (first UK mag review, likely to be in the October issue now, in the shops around Wed 26th September). It would've been sooner but Terry the Editor chose my first "Disabled Pest Controller / new Permission" article for the September issue, out 29th August. Thanks again everyone for the opportunity, and the biscuits. :o)
@jakestvns48846 жыл бұрын
Russ DouglasAGW =
@WattWood6 жыл бұрын
I just bought one yesterday Mk II and I am in love with it , just need a new butt pad and some extra mags , the cocking is no problem its rock solid not some soft action
@andysj5308 Жыл бұрын
I brought my s16 New over 20 year's ago loved it so much i brought my son the s16s we still have them brilliant rifles and we wouldn't get rid of them and as for pellet jam we have only had that a couple of times and easy to unjam
@andybeckett44804 жыл бұрын
Late feedback: My first airgun was a second hand gat when I was about 12. My first air rifle was a long while later, when I was 23 in 1976. A Relum Tornado .22 second hand, £10 when I was working in Cornwall. Still got it in working order. Andy B.
@SAKelly-gq6pj6 жыл бұрын
1st gun was milbro repeter (looks like a 1911 ), and 1st air rifle was 1950s daisy pump action, both bought for me by my dad when I was about 7 years old (I'm 44 now) still have both and both have been sent in for a rebuild with my local gunsmith, great show keep um coming!
@hunter100t6 жыл бұрын
My first air gun was a birthday present from my older brother when I was 8 in 1968 a Webley pistol, then the next year a new Webley rifle, still got them both, a meteor after that, loved that one, and the mid 70s a commando rifle Spanish I think it was, but it was accurate. a Vulcan followed then of coarse so did a HW 80, the cannon ! HW 77, 90, 100, various Theoben's including the great SLR88, 1 Daystate, Regal, great hunter. now i'm on my (hopefully) last one a Brocock Bantam, apart from the commando I still have them all and all in perfect working order, then there are the fire arms but I won't go there as they are not even close in the fun factor to shoot ! keep at it lads, the show is a winner !!
@ncb27346 жыл бұрын
Yet again guys a great video. They keep getting better and better. Huge thanks. Very entertaining and informative. Careful Lloyd that's 2 videos with no hat on........
@mickhunt32036 жыл бұрын
I was 8 years old when my dad got me a second hand MK1 asi paratrooper for my birthday all my friends were very jealous because it looked like a Tomy gun.last year I striped it down and rebuilt it still works as well as it did the day I got it and all the plastic grips are in one piece
@thedeester1004 жыл бұрын
The S16 was £399 new. It wasnt absolute crap though. I thought it was a joy to shoot. I did have some issues with leaking through damaged o rings but I largely cured it myself by polishing everything to a mirror finish and replacing the o rings with ones i got from an industrial o ring dealer that were made of a different compound. I dont remember the exact spec of the o-rings used but I was advised by a great bloke in a pneumatics shop in Rotherham who helped me greatly when I showed him the problem. The name of the bloke and his shop I forget but he never charged for the time I spent with him, only for the o-rings which cost about £2. He even admitted that the o rings should be like 20p but he couldnt create an invoice for 20p. I was overjoyed to pay that since the gunsmith charged me £40 to fix it the first time it sprang a leak. Ok I guess you could say it was absolute crap if you are not a tinkerer.
@peetje280219706 жыл бұрын
The Leshiy is the only airgun I consider buying at the moment. Such a lovely little thing.
@russdouglasagw81516 жыл бұрын
peetje28021970: Checkout StevenBrown custom riflestocks & grips for some awesome custom Leshiy grips... he has an FB group and also a website... woodfield-gcp.co.uk/product/steven-brown-custom-stocks/
@willybee30565 жыл бұрын
The Leshiy is my first and only pcp air rifle. .. 3000 rnds and I still love it... But it is boring,,, at 10 meters, the stupid pellets keep going in the same hole. I smile every time I shoot it, ... bunnies? Not so much...
@peetje280219703 жыл бұрын
Picking up my third one tomorrow.
@fencer396 жыл бұрын
My first air rifle was a second hand Webley Hawk mk1 with .177 & .22 interchangable barrels !!......then bought a HW77 in 1984 which iI still own and still shoots beutifully 34 years later !!
@hotair42696 жыл бұрын
I have business about 32 years now and I haven't seen a worn out Hw77... Amazing gun !
@cornishpagan6 жыл бұрын
Still got an original "Sweet 16 MK 1" still working fine as a pest control gun, few teething problems when I first bought it around 14 years ago but once they were ironed out its run perfectly and pellet on pellet accuracy … get a good one and they go on and on...
@hotair42696 жыл бұрын
Thats great to hear . They weren't all bad , just quite a percentage of them. From a retailers point of view, anything over 10% is bad, the S16 was a lot higher but I've seen old guns nowadays and once sorted, like you say they are good :)
@davidallen75406 жыл бұрын
My first gun was a " Gat gun " it fired .177 pellets, corks and metal darts. My late dad bought it for me when I was 7 years old.
@murdoch4516 жыл бұрын
Mine was in 1972 a BSA (super) meteor .22 still got it and still shoot it and still like new. purchased from Woolco super market in Leicester. I was 12.
@markhomer57046 жыл бұрын
David Johnson Them were the days eh.. me old man bought me the BSA Mercury back in 1974 ... when I were 14 ... great being 58 aint it ...lol ... how times have changed, air rifles too say the least .. still got the old mercury though , dont shoot it though because the stock has an awful hairline crack in it , and with the new titan spring I put in recently ( dug it out the attic about 3 yrs ago )every time it fires the crack opens ... so ive stopped using it ... nonetheless , geting it out the attic after god knows how many years gave me the " bug " again ... and now the kids have moved out , spending time shooting my collection of pcp's (and riding motorcycles)... aint bought another springer though ..
@murdoch4516 жыл бұрын
hope the crack is not on the pistol grip btw. Northampton.
@moonbear1st6 жыл бұрын
i had the original stealth 2000 and later i bought an s16 -2nd hand almost give away price because it was always jamming. well honestly it was just down to sheer laziness on the cocking in my opinion i never had a jam in the time i had it and when i sold it on to a new comer to the club because he was taken with it i just explained the cocking and he never had a jam in all the time he and his son were at the club..if anything it was a tad heavy for anything other than bench rest which is what we do anyway at bags. the edgar brothers one sold for £399 locally when the price dropped....i still have the crosman that russ showed and the 2240 both set up the same......just after i had bought my edgun which was the 2.5 version i believe ,..ed made the next version the mk 3 about a year later and on a video he said everyone complains my guns are too dear well they are unique he said and if you want one you will pay the price he has maintained that and still going strong..love the look of the leishy but these days unless i won the lottery i couldnt afford that or any high end gun..good video prog keep them coming chaps..
@plummz6 жыл бұрын
First airgun was a Weihrauch 35, early teens forty ish years ago. Paid £40 for it, sold it for the same. Could have bought it back for the same too and regretted not having ever since!
@VinCent-xy5lg6 жыл бұрын
Webley Vulcan which I ordered from my mothers mail order catalogue, still got it. Circa 1978.
@philgoodall78726 жыл бұрын
got a Webley junior .177 from my grandad when I was 9 I'm 65 now I still have it. And it still works
@Martin_IPL59906 жыл бұрын
First gun was a Crossman Medallist pump up .22 pistol. Bought circa '77 when I was 14 yrs old, and yes still in my man drawer.
@zero_recall98276 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these videos, especially the tales from the trade that we wouldn't normally hear about.If you're after questions to ask Claire West when she makes her appearance,could you ask her if they'd consider offering their springers with the original 14mm longer piston latch rod, either as an alternative to the longer stroke we have now, or even as an after market spare piston.
@LloydSchober2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I've given up trying to talk to Air arms about springers. They aren't interested.
@mavicsteve92756 жыл бұрын
BSA Meteor at 11 years old now 63 still got it in its box with target holder small tube of pellets and oil. Look forward to your show. Might be best if quests wear lighter cloths so we can see the rifles.
@maximpestsolutions36965 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video 👍. Liked and Subscribed ✌. Cheers 🙏
@lyonscultivars5 жыл бұрын
The s16 is already a colectors item. Got my 177 in pump lovley rifle
@Jayt7506 жыл бұрын
Webley Tracker in .177 was my first gun. Had an S16S and it was faultless.
@hotair42695 жыл бұрын
The S was much better than the Mk1 . Logun were making a big effort to improve them :)
@llamedosr78436 жыл бұрын
Hw80 at 16. Had as Diana sp50 and a Webley hurricane prior to that. The Diana got me in trouble with the special patrol group(spg), back in the early eighties
@NordleM205 жыл бұрын
remember going to one of the big game fairs once and logun had a stand there with the protoype of this gun, only difference was the cocking mech, it was pump action! i was sold, even though i had a rapid at the time, the pump action was just so sweet. then it came to market and no longer had the pump mech, i inquired as to why and was told it was illegal to have the pump action on it. so that was the end of that.....
@lordthomastravis16176 жыл бұрын
Leak like Teabag's if dry fired they blow the breach seal out ! But I now upgrade seals on them as most smiths won't touch them !
@lordthomastravis16176 жыл бұрын
I had a stealth /storm and shadow! Also got two s16s
@andreicalancea415810 ай бұрын
Hi.What thread are they on valve bottle?What size ?M18x1.5?
@jamesconway73366 жыл бұрын
My first gun was a weihrauch hw70 from 1981 second hand in 1989 and still going strong. then a bsa lightning in 96 which I've still got
@Portion97646 жыл бұрын
Yet another good vid guys👍 when will you be reviewing/comparisons of under-levers.
@cblack1green6 жыл бұрын
I had one of these and not happy memories, I did have a Skan once and I am sure that was pump action. May be you can get hold of one for a future review.
@hotair42696 жыл бұрын
We have a Skan on the list to find and review Chris :)
@TonyBelas6 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, they were pump action until the s16 raised the point that they were not allowed. After that they changed to a pistol grip cocking action....I preferred the pump
@longbowdt5 жыл бұрын
Got a Parker-Hale Phoenix laying around? I'd like to see that one.The Phoenix has an interesting story behind it, as well. I've owned the Sweet 16(S), and it was a great and powerful gun (FAC). It cocks on the forward shove of the bolt, so you're correct about the jamming. It was a difficult gun to tune, but I managed a more-flat shot string for my efforts. Miss it. Keep doing this history segment.
@hotair42695 жыл бұрын
As it happens, I've just found a Phoenix for one of our next shows, but still looking for an Air Logic Genesis, just so I can watch Tony turn purple trying to cock it :)
@markthomas67704 жыл бұрын
I have a logun S16Xs in 22 working holds air with no leaks
@LemonySnicket-EUC4 жыл бұрын
Same here. I'll never sell it.
@unobadboy6 жыл бұрын
I've had two of these the early one and the S, no leaks or jams you just have to take care when using them
@hotair42696 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about playing the lottery ? The early ones had about an 80% return rate so yes there some good ones, and you are right, taking care when using them is a good idea. Unfortunately not everyone reads instructions or thinks about operating the cocking lever correctly .. Strange but true :) Thanks for watching Andy .
@matthewpearsall92496 жыл бұрын
Great video I had a Webley Vulcan I was 16 I'm 47 tomorrow 22nd july so 31 years ago it was a great gun but so heavy
@mrbritcoinnakamoto27934 жыл бұрын
hi nice video can you do a rebuild video on the logun S-16s iv got two myself and would love to rebuild them both but im not to confident would be great video for the followers thanks
@guestandsons4 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff again.
@dazzpol6 жыл бұрын
After the S16s was the s16 EVO with a conventional side bolt.
@jetblack51156 жыл бұрын
Great review. ..keep reviewing the old rifles with the new please. ..
@hotair42696 жыл бұрын
That's the plan Pete :)
@andreicalancea415810 ай бұрын
What thread size are Logun s16 on buddy bottle valve???Many thanks🙏
@PaulMoorhousehankooks4 жыл бұрын
my first air rifle was a BSA super meteor.22
@Brunosdad6 жыл бұрын
I still have my s16 only problem I had was after 13 years the trigger spring needed replacement but its virtually impossible to get one that's not under powered so had to go with the FAC spring and cut it down but over all its a great.
@andrewedwards8582 жыл бұрын
I had a Webley Victor at 14 years old
@themerc33842 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the gunpower stealth please
@LloydSchober2 жыл бұрын
We haven't stocked them for years but I will give you a few tidbits. The importer in the Uk is hopeless , doesn't honour warranties and doesn't seem to have parts . The guns themselves are very basic , not particularly good quality and seem to be a tinkerers gun. One gun I would avoid .
@Bows4106 жыл бұрын
17 years old first gun was the logun s16 it diddnt last long before I got the air arms s410
@Leewainwright88 Жыл бұрын
How do you identify Edgar Brothers model?
@gethinjones89924 жыл бұрын
my first gun i was 12 and it was a baikal .177 made in the USSR 😂😂 but sadly it broke and was replaced with a BSA meteor 👍
@alicew93274 жыл бұрын
The last version of the s16 (s16 evo) was a good rifle but logun went under during the release of the gun so there was no customer support.
@victorguerrero38026 жыл бұрын
I have a daystate air ranger .25 The problem is that it sounds a lot and when I shoot a blow of air comes to the face. What is it, some solution? Thank you.
@hotair42696 жыл бұрын
Have your gunsmith to check the breech O ring .
@nizzmo1006 жыл бұрын
That Logan Is the spitting image of the Airforce Condor SS sold in the usa which Is an awesome gun , not sure If they sell Airfoce guns In the UK .
@WattWood6 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are called gunpower in the uk , so we have stealth , storm and texan here :)
@mrbritcoinnakamoto27935 жыл бұрын
hi got two of those loguns 177 and 22 i was told there was only 200 made in 177 is this right ? and what would it be worth today ?
@stevenward64535 жыл бұрын
Pump action shotguns have never been outlawed in Britain what are you talking about
@MrRockstar19684 жыл бұрын
I've seen reviews where they states the Edgun Lashiy accuracy was appalling and the trigger was poor.
@carsmax6 жыл бұрын
Right, this pressure gage is on the right place !!nice gun, but just 200 shuts per fill ?? for this big bottle ! Not regulated ????
@hotair42696 жыл бұрын
There were some really nice touches but not regulated and not an efficient internal design so not many shots per fill :(
@daddyandsonsadventures85263 жыл бұрын
Webly tempest 22 was great fun armed response took it helicopter T5 dog van 2 land rover discoveries 4 normal cars evacuated the hole industrial estate blocked off the road stoped traffic motorbikes they wasn’t very happy i was 19 got threats off them to kick my head in and to make it worse i never got the gun back i was playing in the woods behind the industrial estate a bit over the top still miss that gun to this day lol
@jimrobinson29086 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me why the new Brocock cannot be sold in this country with a folding stock? I am sure there are airguns that are the same length as this when its stock is folded already out there. Is this a case of the manufacturer being frightened of where legislation is heading.
@hammyh11656 жыл бұрын
Jim Robinson blame it on The Gun Trade Association they lie down to the government all the time, they are also behind Anti-tamper on guns.
@TonyBelas6 жыл бұрын
Actually I've already asked and did not really understand the answer. It's to do with legislation and minimum gun and barrel lengths. But I'll be looking at one at the game fair next week so I'll get back to you on the next show
@TonyBelas6 жыл бұрын
Jim Robinson : well I've looked into it, interrogated the main players, and I cannot find out either. The action with the butt folded is over 60 cm, the barrel is well over 39 cm, the shroud is locked in place and with the barrel removed the rifle cannot be fired. Please correct me if I'm wrong but there's no restrictions on butt length or even if it has one, just overall and barrel length. Anyone have a contray view? Or do you agree with jim and I?
@tommoore50116 жыл бұрын
How come their is no hardcase with the rifle like on other videos i have seen on utube.
@hotair42696 жыл бұрын
Edgun stopped supplying the case with the Mk2.
@russellprice10624 жыл бұрын
Can u tell me where these guns leak from as iv just bought one cheap
@LloydSchober4 жыл бұрын
Mainly the valve but also the rear coupling can cause a few problems.
@Jumpin2457 ай бұрын
i still have mine in 2024
@MrAlphapapa5 жыл бұрын
I had an early Logun S16 and it was very accurate and quiet but you really had to rack that bolt in a firm positive manner otherwise it would jam. Not the sort of gun you just handed to a mate to have a go let's say that.
@hotair42695 жыл бұрын
Saw a lot of guns borrowed to mates with pellets jammed in the barrel when returned.
@aboutthemetal87835 жыл бұрын
The Evo was the best version but unfortunately logun pretty much vanished upon its release
@ghanditw6 жыл бұрын
think my first was bsa paratrooper or meteor cant remember which. but id rather have a stealth than a s16
@tonkajjz1095 жыл бұрын
Guy on Facebook does the pump conversion
@airwavepaul4 жыл бұрын
My first air gun was a Relum Tornado and I loved it,, think I was about 14 years old at the time, sadly no longer own it 😢
@stepup8986 жыл бұрын
Where the result of the competition?
@TonyBelas6 жыл бұрын
Next video
@fedaykeen6 жыл бұрын
Bsa meteor.. dont have anymore.. I think its nice you have a guest or two on, however i think your show works better on reviews with the two of you, i did find a bit of overtalking quite annoying at times.. yes i know its not all the time, just me nit picking.. Great show.
@TonyBelas6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it is tricky when it's unscripted, three people and restricted to 20 minutes. But I think we will get better with practise.
@tommoore50116 жыл бұрын
Thinking of buying one Lloyd as your shop within driving distance.My only decision is whats best .177 or .22 looking for something unusual and whats the best scope for up to 50m range not much information on this one.
@hotair42696 жыл бұрын
Well the calibre debate is opening a can of worms. Generally .177 for target and .22 for pest control is accepted wisdom but some people prefer .177 even for hunting , although I'm not one of them. As for scopes the guys in the shop will guide you but you can't go wrong with a Nikko Panamax . Take a look at one you will be impressed with the quality as a sensible price :)
@tommoore50116 жыл бұрын
Just put my order in for a .22 mate.I will try them scopes you recommended when i pickup gun from shop can't wait.
@lindarogers89946 жыл бұрын
I can't see the profile of the rifle because the guy in the middle is wearing a black t-shirt, you need to think about what the viewer is able to see, is there any chance you could film a close up of the rifles you're reviewing as they all just look the same from where I can see it. I preferred the review vids you did in the shop you could actually see what you were reviewing.
@bassmanrich444 жыл бұрын
i really love the look but the cocking i really dont like it...such a shame a bolt action would be amazing with a 10 shot mag ...but there you go..
@dazahunter16 жыл бұрын
Top gun add one for 4 years
@allanwind2956 жыл бұрын
I didn't care for the first half. Consider splitting each segment into separate videos so you get useful analytics as to what your audience like. Kudos on the full disclosure re being importer.
@rogerparker92285 жыл бұрын
1st gin I owned was a .22 Wembley omega. Had it for over 10 year. Amazing and to this day I regret selling it to my mum's old partner. I'm now 46.
@carsmax6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I have to say , this Leshiy thing is stupid coking stuff . To cock this , U have to move the whole gun AWAY from "avery thing" ???? this is rubbish .
@russdouglasagw81516 жыл бұрын
Carsten: I've found I can maintain good / safe range discipline when using it, i.e. keeping the barrel pointing downrange at all times. It just takes practice.
@johnpickering74496 жыл бұрын
It's a bit like a texen
@kevinparker4612 жыл бұрын
S16 .... heap of shite!!. Brought a new one because i used to clear pigeons around factory units & didn't want to spoil my other walnut stocked air rifles. And as for firearms law, plod don't know what they are talking about most of the time, & they all sing from a differant hymn sheet. I have a Steyr Hunting 5 SA totally legal ... go figure?
@edwalmsley14016 жыл бұрын
S16 mk 1 was honestly the worst gun I ever had,just total garbage