the edgy-fication of kids shows [winx club, sabrina, + riverdale]

[@ActualDisasterArt]

Netflix pulled an “I’m not like other girls” with all female characters

[@KHALI_SEAWEED]

It sounds like you're joking but that's literally what they did jferjjkg

[@monaelisa8713]

You hit the nail on the head there 😂

[@einekartoffel2490]

@@KHALI_SEAWEED They are joking, joking while expressing the truth.

[@randomkword]

“ If you haven’t noticed, *I’m weird* “

[@blueghost4769]

@@randomkword i'm a weirdo. I don't fit in and i don't wanna fit in. Have you seen me without this stupid hat on? That's WEIRD.

[@nasinnarcotics]

Netflix has such a ridiculous obsession with making things "dark and mature" when they really don't need to be. Honestly it's a really juvenile way of thinking; only a child idolizes maturity in that way.

[@ametsunami4070]

You have become the very thing you swore to destroy, Netflix!

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Sadly that's really true

[@deulalune]

Yeah ;-;

[@DylanRomanov]

I love things girly and magic oriented . I prefer the darkness to come from the drama not always the aesthetic.

[@FacelessCrowd]

Because all us teens are just depressed adults but an 16 or 18 on a ID

[@xine.7701]

they didn't even bother to let an asian girl to play as musa or let a hispanic/latina girl to play as flora😭 also rip techna

[@paniccake1219]

I agree, I’ve always hated the absolute whitewashes in Netflix shows. It’s even worse when they have a character that’s a certain race and they just change the race and say it’s right. It’s like Netflix put up a poster for an actress and the only physical requirement was not being white.

[@ellaella5365]

Hopeless Gay I don't think shows on Netflix are white washed anymore now a days if you watch something I see all sorts of colours and races but the second part I agree

[@giuliad223]

I don't think flora was supposed to be latina, I think she was more generally supposed to look southern European - meaning olive. I think since the show originated in Italy it was a way of representing white people with more diversity - so they have a blonde, a redhead, and a brunette/olive.

[@sodiumchloride3040]

@@giuliad223 Flora's design was based off Jennifer Lopez and she had a hispanic voice actor I believe, so I do think she was coded to be hispanic

[@Sonic-zc8kj]

@@giuliad223 well, even if we use this logic in the adaptation is not even tanned (she is pretty pale and doesn't remotely look like a southern european)

[@eggarts9158]

I have a feeling why productions can’t get teen actors is because teens look at the script and go “oh no they’re going with this style of dialogue again”

[@nessyness5447]

Hahaha " no thanks, we don't want to colaborate in your fake stereotypation of us"

[@nothankyou4269]

And also because they can't make teens have sexy scenes because that would be extra gross and weird.

[@nothankyou4269]

@月Lua Natsuki Sweet Jesus....

[@saracampernel8582]

i also feel like that could help get better scripts, these shows are horrid

[@feminine8766]

Sometimes I noticed how the actual teen will be played as the sibling of the teen character who in real life isn’t a teen make it make sense 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@shgurr]

This show is an insult to the original. Why do they keep taking fun titles and making them horribly edgy?

[@mewacky]

because netflix is not like the other girls

[@MistyLose]

Don't forget Extremely extremely Hormonal

[@avidanime158]

they think our generation is all depressed and edgy smh

[@7minutesago4yearsago29]

@@avidanime158 Tbh we come off as such. We have a lot of bad representatives that are edgy and glorify depression/anxiety. It's annoying but I guess we'll just have to live with it until we're adults. But on the bright side, we can still enjoy the rare gems that appear on Netflix.

[@avidanime158]

@@7minutesago4yearsago29 I agree with that, but the amount of sex is still uneccessary

[@zauromoun]

"I hope Netflix isn't deeply hurt by that - if they are, feel free to wipe your tears with the million dollar bills you probably have lying around." DAMN, GO FOR THE THROAT QUEEN LMAO

[@helloitsaperson6447]

For this quote alone, I hope some executive at netflix or some sister company finds this vid somehow

[@theshywolfie6655]

I DIED LMAOO

[@KlownKumiho]

*Daddy chimed in “Go for the throat.”* Irrelevant, but I had to 😅

[@theshywolfie6655]

@@KlownKumiho a fellow Melanie Martinez fan? :D

[@EllaAngeli]

What's the time stamp on that

[@beethomp1942]

I feel like she was trying so hard to avoid the word “boring” in this lmao

[@JC_artz]

Yeah

[@capy4765]

Fr

[@andrewth5276]

Lmao ft

[@andrewth5276]

Fr

[@spookyho5994]

Fr tho

[@s.m5576]

Bloom *never* wore red- literally never- even though her powers were fire she literally never wore red she usually wore pink and blue accents why did they make her colour scheme all red and edgy i- yk what im done lol XD

[@foxinandtrottin3943]

Probably because wearing wearing light blue makes them look “too young” and doesn’t fit the whole depressing colour scheme of the entire school

[@s.m5576]

@@foxinandtrottin3943 yeah I get what they were going for but it just doesn't feel like its winx anymore- lol

[@foxinandtrottin3943]

@@s.m5576 it gives off more of a “trying too hard to be funny and I feel like all the life has been drained out of the energetic fairy characters” vibe

[@Dred0n]

@@s.m5576 bloom outfit in netflix:red dress, red water boot and red jacket just because she's a fire fairy🙄.

[@veegsredds]

That reminds me of how Riverdale dresses Cheryl Blossom in red constantly to the point she says "I OWN red" in a scene (lmfao) when in the comics she primarily wears yellow, teal, white, blue and sometimes pink, I get the "Haha Cheryl = cherry = red" thing they were going for but in the comics she had more of a flower aesthetic (reflecting the Blossom part of her name), almost never a red one. Another character, Veronica Lodge, should have the primarily red palette but then she almost never wears red on that show

[@wren5962]

The Bloom from the reboot gives me intense “I’m not like other girls” vibes

[@pogget5523]

I’m not like other girls, I’m a hotdog 😔🤪😉🧐🙂😅😚😚🤣☺️🧐😅

[@cotatoga5113]

omg-

[@hexxedthorn]

In all honesty, if you told me that the female leads in every Netflix reboot was based off of r/NotLikeOtherGirls, I'd probably believe you.

[@muhammadfaizmohdnasiruddin2889]

She looks like that girl from Tall Girl. You know, the one where she complains about being tall.

[@littlelady9801]

Original bloom was the type of girl you'd want to be friends with Reboot bloom is the type of girl you'd want to avoid as much as possible

[@averyskipper9584]

With as mush as Netflix likes to “darkify” stuff it does a horrible job of addressing serious topics like depression and eating disorders

[@JeffreyThrash]

16 years on and the media has learned nothing from the video game “Shadow the Hedgehog.”

[@ghostie7776]

Like 13 reasons why

[@aa-zb1jf]

@@JeffreyThrash AIHSIHSOAHS TRUE THOUGH

[@129das]

Ya it weird it almost like standardized story telling of this old content. They try to kind of make this different version and it is different but also samey. Or it just bad.

[@iisxftestmxnster1839]

@@129das You remember their Death Note? 😬

[@Scififan926]

Netflix: “Teens like edgy stuff, right?” Teenagers: Rewatching cartoons from their childhood

[@Urfavoriteinsomniac]

I KNOW RIGHT!!!

[@goldencove2670]

Thank you

[@ScoptOriginal]

Teens liking edgy stuff was more last generation. And most of that generation still likes edgy stuff. So really instead of not reaching their target market, they're accidentally targeting young adults instead. Only problem with that is that it's the same market as the original show, but grown up, and they were intending to draw in a completely new audience. So they also essentially cut their market in half by making it nothing like the original

[@caspertheunfriendlyghost]

The only thing I watch is animated childrens shows *ahem* mainly she ra

[@anirnemi2394]

Pretty much lol, edge works the best with pretty color schemes and likable main characters anyways

[@jeiku5041]

Original creators: This is a comedy made for kids and tweens. Netflix: Did somebody say dark and edgy drama? No? Well that's what we made.

[@Ajia_No_Envy]

Netflix: Hey is that spongebob? Everyone: Yes, its the best childhood show and really funn- Netflix: Here's the netflix adaptation, The Depths of the Sea. Where Spongebob is a human being thrown into the sea and exploring it.

[@nessyness5447]

Netflix: teens and young adult girls/women like edgy things. Teens and adult girls/women between 18 and 30 yo: yay, bratz fashion is comming back! I want plataform pink boots with black flames and sparkly tops!!!

[@jeiku5041]

@@nessyness5447 I want platform boots...

[@luuuuux_]

@@jeiku5041 me too

[@annabuchova8737]

That's reality

[@ditnat9714]

Petition to have cosplayers that actually care about the characters personalities and such make a live action

[@nessyness5447]

I offer myself as stella or bloom( have wigs and clothes for both of them) if someone from spain wants to take the project 🙋🏼‍♀️

[@ed_1thxx]

@@nessyness5447 I used to have Stellas wig and clothes but the wig got too messy and I grew out the clothes as I had it when I was 5 or 6 and I’m 11 now

[@nessyness5447]

@@ed_1thxxi don't know if you mean like an actual kid's costume? , i was not referring to that, the wigs i have are sythetic fiber heat resiliant, i have a blonde one i used for sailor v that can work for stella and an orange one from one piece nami post time skip that would work for bloom. And, as i have clothes in many different styles i like and enjoy character inspired outfits, i have "normal" clothes that can work for stella or bloom combined appropriately. Like maybe not the exact cartoon clothes but in the same colors and style. Then again i am an adult and have been in the world of cosplay for over a decade, so i had time to make a good collection of clothes than can be worn daily or combined into casual cosplay.and wigs...way too many wigs. 🤣🤣

[@-taemiso-292]

If they can act as well, i agree.

[@valerykravtsova3345]

Yes please 🙏🏻💕

[@Chamble]

Let’s get this straight: Netflix sucks at recreating kids’ stuff. It’s like: “mm, yes let’s make everything b a d . “

[@ghost_shivers5276]

Yea...

[@skillissue816]

Yep, im afraid what they are gonna do to avatar: the last airbender :(

[@kemcaphe]

Anne With an E was really good though, I don’t understand why it got cancelled when Riverdale went on for many seasons

[@ghost_shivers5276]

@@skillissue816 noooooo not avatar pls noo

[@ChiakiHatori]

Sorta agree but I loved Sabrina, it wasn't outstanding but fun to watch.

[@myxhoney]

next netflix is gonna put out a revamp of h2o: just add water where they don’t even turn into mermaids

[@willowcassidy7199]

if this becomes real i will come back here and cry at the dark timeline you put us in

[@lilymarie8644]

they touch water and are suddenly moved to kill everyone they've ever met

[@allicat9499]

@@lilymarie8644 and then they develop like siren powers and hypnotize everyone into joining their water cult and it gets really awkward and sexualized to the point where Netflix has to cancel the show because parents are complaining on common sense media

[@Livlatte]

They would

[@jazmin7640]

Please dont give them ideas

[@stevenhiggins3055]

Netflix: tries to pander to nostalgia Also Netflix: removes everything the now grown up kids loved about the original in the reboot.

[@obssesivlyanalytical]

@Isaac O'Hara Those were safe maybe only because they were animation. It’s the live action that never works out

[@ducle7066]

@Isaac O'Hara both of those are actually pretty good and bc it’s animation

[@evagarcia865]

The color pink: *Exists* Netflix reboots: *now this is an avengers level threat*

[@randomkword]

Somewhat feminine things: exists Netflix: *What is this filth?*

[@xfakelucid6504]

Strong female characters who are also girly and feminine: *exist* Netflix: Impossible! Perhaps the archives are incomplete?

[@monbub]

yeah it's super confusing bc they try as hard as they can to make the new shows liberal, but then they strip away any sign of uniqueness and femininity and diversity. I dunno if that made any sense, but what I'm trying to say is that I have no idea who these shows are supposed to appeal to ://

[@ashleyhansen4479]

Honestly, there’s a lot of anime such as Madoka Magica, Yuuki Yuna, and even Sailor Moon which are all dark at times but use a lot of pink. Also, Elfen Lied is dark but the main character has pink hair. If anything though I prefer dark series that are well written which is why I like anime a lot!

[@Roses-101]

Girl: Wears a dress Netflix: _So ya see, I started stereotyping_

[@meogatopreto]

You CAN'T make a thing "dark and mature" just throwing a desaturated pallet and heavy, angst scenes. You do it by developing complex narratives that explore the worst in humanity, you can do it even if your show has a pastel pallete! I thought that a dark version of the Winx really could be interesting, but the way they did it is like painting a broken old car and saying that it is new. Edit: WOW! This kinda blew up '----' I wouldn't do that but, since the talk is about dark and mature media, well, I did this horror fan animation a while ago, just dropping here if someone is curious :v kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5u7YqimZ5idbsk

[@lifewithluci1764]

Exactly!!! Even if the story was dark and edgy, that doesn't mean the palette color and outfits should all be gray and black. A story can be dark, horrible, soulless, while having a great costume design that actually goes along with the character's personality and helps the story telling.

[@mayscasitoro163]

PASTEL G · O · R · E Idk it just came to my mind XD

[@haveagoodmourning]

Yes! In fact, some of my favorite "mature" shows are animated and have bright color palettes. The Dragon Prince, for example, manages to be incredible and legitimately mature, while still being a somewhat cutesy-styled animation about Scottish elves and lightning magic.

[@adhdweirdo4314]

It’s why all the cute horror anime’s are terrifying, and the grungy ones are just bad and not good at all

[@longislandicedtea6323]

Deviantart dark, that's what I'm calling these live-action snorefests

[@kaylaamay]

the fact they didn’t even add Flora, they added her ‘cousin’ Terra, they made Stella’s character like, the antagonist of the group the only relation they gave Musa to music was her headphones that she wears all the time both Stella and Bloom got bad mommy issues they sorta made one of the Trix sisters, you can see the inspo they got from them (her name was Beatrix in it) Riven is a stoner, that’s all he does, and his anger issues are low key toned down in this?? he gets with Beatrix, idk if he’ll ever get with Musa, i’d say no because Musa is with “Terra’s” brother

[@JC_artz]

Wait... I thought it was Flora....

[@Vynicant]

Ik like why not even bring all the characters. Plus Flora was always my fav and i kinda dont even like Terra :(

[@kaylaamay]

@@JC_artz yeah it was, but netflix decided to throw in her nonexistent cousin Terra to take her place, she’s also one of the girls that got their race changed, her and Musa are now white characters?? i was so mad at that when i watched the show

[@kaylaamay]

@@Vynicant yeah exactly same, Flora was my favourite as well, Tecna also isn’t a thing in it, they just completely scraped her idea

[@nialicious2]

Can we talk about how they just removed Tecna all together?

[@ka.BLAMM0]

Netflix is basically obsessed with “not like other girls” characters lmao

[@kawlev8009]

Ikr it's just ridiculous 🤦‍♀️

[@user-dl3vn8ze9n]

And gay people for whatever reason, I heard.

[@tomriddleschild6256]

And that "oh that person is gay it's obvious stereotypes." 🧍🏽

[@ww.DuzaFizz]

@@snauw I mean, representation is important, but the way they implement the representation is horrible. They boil everyone down to (mostly harmful) stereotypes, but try so hard to pretend to actually care about the people they portray. Also the toxic feminism is cringe-inducing at best (not saying feminism is toxic, but they love to use the 'toxic twitter/tumblr' brand of feminism)

[@charkie9313]

It's really annoying their like let's make her a tom boy because she ain't like other girls she is edgy

[@babydragon1234]

Dear Netflix, If your main character is a teenager, that doesn't automatically make them edgy. If the target audience is teenagers, that doesn't automatically mean they want edgy content. Edgy doesn't automatically mean likeable. If you want to make likeable characters and content, make likeable characters and content. Don't just go "look they said manslpaining, that means they're cool right?" Did you forget what show don't tell is? Sincerely, me P.s. stop using goth as shorthand for depression, goth is a music based subculture that many people from all walks of life are a part of. Depression is a serious mental issue. Yes goths can have mental problems, but they don't have problems because they're goth and vice versa

[@-ix-3152]

Goth is also a major fashion style too, but other than that you've got it spot on!

[@babydragon1234]

@@-ix-3152 the fashion is a part of the subculture which is why I included the subculture as a whole instead of just the dress of many members

[@JJINX]

Right?! And- this happens in a lot of movies and tv shows in general, not just Netflix- but teenage characters are always portrayed as rebellious, moody, and some are just straight-up hateful for no reason. Like teens in any form of entertainment are always edgy and almost never have an interesting and original backstory.

[@anonymouse9510]

You should telll netlfix on twitter because this is a really good argument to what netlix is doing

[@SarahAbramova]

Yes

[@Anemone_Productions]

"Madoka is darker than this netflix reboot will ever be" oh true

[@chidubememma-ugwuoke2315]

Ikr

[@nightlingpandemoniummalefi6806]

@A Gacha Demon no meduka don’t become meguca

[@mmm-ei3yi]

Lmao, what happened in madoka? I needa watch it still

[@mmm-ei3yi]

At 5:17 what’s the top right, left and bottom right (Sorry, lmao, i’m into anime but not that much for magical girls)

[@aquamarineee]

@@mmm-ei3yi I think the top left is Yuki Yuuna Is a Hero :)

[@aidanthepotato3974]

The worst thing about these reboots is that netflix goes so far off from what the original show was that if you change the names of the characters and places it wouldn't even be connected to the original.

[@anna4.44]

I didnt even recognize the Winx reboot as a Winx reboot. My brain just thought "its just a fairy movie duh" but then I realized and it's not even funny bc I watched Winx, and i didnt even recognize it😔

[@muhammadfaizmohdnasiruddin2889]

@@anna4.44 it could have easily been mistaken as an X-men teen show.

[@-ix-3152]

@@anna4.44 I did the same thing

[@randomgrmlin]

Honestly the show would have been fine if it wasn’t connected to Winx.

[@AraiaHikari]

@@anna4.44 Saw my mom watching a fairy show on Netflix, watched it for a bit, didn't even connect it to WINX until watching this video.

[@keira_f]

The thing I hate the most about the reboot is that to make the show seem “more grown up” they striped all the female characters of any good healthy relationships with other girls, be it their mothers or their friends like bloom and stella were besties in the the og but in this they basically hate each other and for what?? Like the show is so bland that to make drama they have to add in bad relationships. Ugh

[@randomhumanbeing5416]

That’s actually a really good point. They probably sabotage the main characters relationships because they already destroyed the plot with their “edgy-fying”. They ruined a good show to the point of having to rewrite it completely, but rewriting it so badly that everyone is unlikable and so they have to pit everyone against each other to make it even have anything “interesting”

[@theaitokyo]

they honestly should’ve just made it their own show with a different name. like this is nothing like the winx club. especially the characters are aren’t the same cast ethnicity wise.

[@lazylamb1767]

Another thing that grinds my gears about them acting like they made winx “dark” is that winx already had heavy and “dark” subjects in its show. Death, sacrifice, genocide, trauma, all subjects the show has tackled and it hit HARDER because it’s not all dark all the time. They’re TEENAGERS they go to school, get in to trouble, and goof off. You know, like teenagers do. When you see characters at their best it hurts a lot more when you see them at their worst.

[@lixyororke]

idk. i remember layla/aisha going blind was TRAUMATISING to me as a kid because of her reaction

[@TheLalacream]

Madoka magica: beheads Mami on screen, Homura fighting against the inevitable suffering and death of her best friend, Kyoko being the only survivor of her father's murder suicide, Sayaka going mad and becoming a witch. Sailor moon: that one season where all of Usagi's friends and loved ones die. Magical girl raising project: magical girl battle royal.

[@TheLalacream]

Yet they all have cute and colorful aesthetics/characters

[@thatperson8787]

Indeed. Take for example Musa and her family. I feel like it would not have had the same impact that it had if the show was a dark and edgy teenage superhero show.

[@InkaCee]

I agree with this. I still remember when I watched it and some hard hitting scenes, because it was on surface level so light hearted. Stella’s parents getting divorced, bloom being adopted and finding out where She came from, Musa and Riven literally being in toxic relationship and on/off, Tecna’s sacrifice, Flora’s sacrifice when saving Miele, Aisha’s and Nabu’s engament and Nabu’s death? So Many things that could be interesting plotlines if you tweak them to fit live action. Still keeping the same sparkly fairy vibe og had. It would feel like Real life but with spice by making them Magic.

[@Helloknight]

netflix: you can't have an edgy show with pink. madoka magica: *cackles in literally the edgiest magical girl show with its mc in pink frills*

[@keshagriffin3375]

LMFAO.

[@CaioSantos-zg5ru]

Magical girls are edgy, dark or mature with pink

[@also_arles]

Danganronpa: *laughs in pink/purple blood and Junko Enoshima*

[@aliciamarrow7062]

Oh.. My God

[@2pl2f]

Yuki Yuna is a Hero: *giggles in sange and also a pink mc*

[@sonic.energy.drink.]

Riverdale, Sabrina, and Winx Club: *exists* Netflix: Let's make it a sexual murder mytery!!

[@monkeman1519]

Yeah- as if we weren’t satisfied after 1 or 2

[@ilyulia_]

yesss

[@PearlieCake]

Bro I swear Netflix is the home of r/fellowkids

[@nopewmv3377]

Ding

[@thejazzy6012]

@Isobel McGovern not yet. Wouldnt be surprised, since they ruined literally everything that people loved as kids already.

[@oximoron613]

Princess Tutu has the girliest name possible and is about a magical ballerina yet manages to be incredibly dark and mature as well. Netflix is just lazy

[@SacredSacral]

Oh my gosh I came here from a Princess Tutu video! And you're right. It's a classic!!

[@oximoron613]

@@SacredSacral Netflix wishes its edgy remakes had 1% of the quality Princess Tutu does

[@maiya5560]

One thing I hate about Fate was that they got rid of the wings to be "edgy" But at the same time I'm grateful for them not adding wings because the CGI of the fire was terrible

[@pola8687]

I think they took away the wings because it would have been too expensive 😄

[@ScoptOriginal]

Actually they did add wings, but only at the end, as a "Bloom has unlocked the ancient powers of the fairies" thing. And the fire CGI was actually not bad at all. The trailers made it look awful, but all the CGI was actually really well done in the show itself

[@maiya5560]

@@ScoptOriginal Oh, okay. Thanks for telling me. I honestly think the CGI in the first 2-3 episodes were not good but I'm sure it got better in the later episodes that I wasn't bothered to watch.

[@nessyness5447]

@@pola8687 which is the reason in general for everything to be so dark and edgy. Is cheaper and is easier. The burn ones are easier and cheaper to do than a troll or ogre. The dark ambience makes editing easier, etc. Netflix is lazy and cheap

[@cozi3]

@@pola8687 netflix has millions of dollars it’s not an expense problem. their just lazy and want to take the cheap route to just get a cash squeeze out of whatever their adapting.

[@paleghost1487]

Imagine making a magical girl show and trying to be realistic. 😴

[@commandermcnash5137]

Spec-Ops Asuka did quite well, kinda, sorta.

[@paleghost1487]

@@k1n5h0 what? 😆

[@k1n5h0]

@@paleghost1487 I'm just saying I don't really like emojis, but keep going if you want to.

[@freshcupofangst]

Well, I don’t know about you but I'd like a magical girl show where there’s an actual logical explanation about where their magic comes from and how it works, instead of just: “it's magic it doesn’t need to make sense”

[@k1n5h0]

@@freshcupofangst we need this

[@effie5292]

ok so apparently what netflix thinks teens act like in this series: - i don't go outside (she probably has a vitamin d deficiency) because im not like other girls - popular girl who is supposed to be seen as badass but is just annoying - the only decent character - i'm so edgy and cool, i wear headphones to escape the chaos of my existence - i'm super nice and your supposed to feel sorry for me but you probably hate me honourary mention: - mr im so cool because i do drugs and smoke, you totally wanna fall in love with me and my slowly deteriorating lungs

[@thejazzy6012]

Like giving people edgey, dark personalities is just a cop out for actually writing a decent character at this point.

[@7minutesago4yearsago29]

@@thejazzy6012 Their character reflects their effort. The writers probably went through wattpad and slapped on whatever bottom of the barrel "relatable" content for teenagers they find. Then they went through a few karen feminist social media accounts to use *lit* and *woke* language like *mansplaining* which is just horrendously moronic.

[@alpha_jasperflair1097]

Teens in netflix: edgy and dirty Teens in real life: friendly and dorks

[@monbub]

@@alpha_jasperflair1097 exactly bruh like teens aren't even like how the characters in the show act. yes we are somewhat edgy, but not 24/7 and not everyone is. most of us are just normal kids that wanna make friends and get through school. and hell, I love being childish and girly, but im almost 16. apparently netflix thinks teens are just depressed adults that go to school for some reason

[@thejazzy6012]

@@monbub The girls in the show are 16! Every 16 year old I knew and my past self were chill. Some are anxty at most, why has teenage anxt become deep, last time I checked teens dont even think its something super cool and edgey

[@thominehansen8969]

I love how she became salty at the end there lmao Like this cute, bubbly character, cute voice, careful and respectful comments, and then at the end she's like "I'm sorry Netflix. If you wanna cry about it, wipe your tears with the million dollar bills you've got"

[@pappanalab]

IKR!? Its great

[@xHoneyHime]

I also hate that with all these "revamps" they're basically following the whole scheme of "women need to act like men to be tough", which neither helps with female emancipation nor produces strong female lead characters. They could've all been super "girly" and "feminine" and still kicked ass, that would've been a lot cooler than have a girl get sassy every time a guy opens his mouth. Neither of the two concepts are bad, there is no "this is what a woman needs to be" - they can be more stereotypically masculine or more stereotypically feminine and would all be valid. But Netflix always seems to go out of their way to deliberately crush everything that looks "too girly to be cool."

[@oonooooooooo]

tbh the chilling adventures of sabrina created interesting female characters without taking away their feminine traits.

[@mistymoooooor]

Ikr. They tried to make "strong female characters" but really they were so the "main-character-whos-not-like-other-girls-also-im-edgy" type

[@mme.veronica735]

Once again She-ra proves to be the one outlier. They have feminine leads that are great strong characters!

[@chrysiewright4292]

Im a weak girly girl and i don't mind

[@justarandompeep8945]

Yeah Lots of shows I watched growing up pretty much taught me that being girly is dumb and you can’t be respected if you are, the old “I’m not like other girls” thing, And unfortunately I acted like that for the brunt of my childhood and refused to admit to people that I did have a girly side, I thought it was considered a dumb thing to have, thankfully I don’t have that habit anymore, but it is very damaging and sad to see being taught.

[@yadagasai9304]

It’s a big pet peeve of mine when “mature dark themes = dark edgy, no color scheme” like not everything has to be edgy??

[@pogget5523]

Exactly, like look at K-12, it has a *very* colorful aesthetic and scheme, yet it still has mature dark themes

[@thejazzy6012]

I am starved of colour, winx was so bright cause its meant to seem magical and from another world. I swear your average college campus is more saturated than this

[@erikaboueres]

Even recent shows like euphoria know this. It's even darker than fate but they dont shy away from colorful scenes and inventive clothing (with helps even more that when shit hits the fan you see the darker atmosphere and goes "oh shit")

[@colourofart01]

Bloom went from optimistic and cute to angsty and selfish... Also they completely ruined Stella. In the original Stella's character development was the best and was gradual and Netflix made her go from snobish and mean to friend oriented in an episode- there was no explanation for her personality developing

[@christinesamaan5695]

I freaking hate what they did to Stella, like this queen was literally the closest protagonist to bloom, never liked sky like that and wasn’t with that attitude But the show literally made Stella the opposite of her character an antagonist who “LIKES SKY?! Plus not even enough screen time and with an unlikable attitude like who the heck is she and what have they done to Stella?!

[@spiritualsnail1584]

Yeah they couldn't find any other way to create drama 🙄

[@elieli2893]

Yeah, seriously, I mean Stella was always vain and a bit shallow, but she was a LIKEABLE ditz! And yeah she liked "Sky", but that's just because of the weird switcheroo between Sky and Brandon -> she liked BRANDON the whole time :'D Also, bye bye Techna, I guess? Or is she somewhere in there? Did they change her for a different character like with Flora and Terra?

[@xxbattleblazexx]

BRO!! THIS!!

[@thejazzy6012]

I SWEAR THE WRITERS HATED THE SHOW. IM SO MADD THIS WAS MY CHILDHOOD, MY FAVOURITE CHILDHOOD SHOW!! I loved the sparkles! I loved the clothes! Why take away such a huge cool aspect? Whyyyyy!!

[@Lurker787]

OMG I THOUGHT THE SAME WHEN I WATCHED IT

[@rockyblak2]

Fun Fact: Pink was originally a masculine color in early 1900’s Edit: and makeup too

[@bloopsagain]

Don’t forget the Wigs, High Heels, and Mandatory Ballet before that

[@ihssaneminyaoui7296]

Yup

[@greattexanbluedragon2773]

yay I'm not the only one who knows!

[@fairysecretary]

Woah- I didn’t know that-

[@mythicanimations]

“Pink is bold and strong, while blue is soft and gentle” Quote from a related documentary

[@PascalPlayz]

I was really disappointed with Winx Sega like seriously they changed the show like altogether, the plot, the concept, everything. I used to love Winx but I heard they are gonna remove the original off Netflix, I don’t know if that’s true but if they just remove the lighthearted kids show and replace it with, whatever this is. Ima file a complaint

[@ddootzles]

On Canadian Netflix it's already gone last I checked

[@Meowkid1000]

They only have season 7 up in the US as far as I know at this point

[@Hazyla]

@@Meowkid1000 yeah it really makes me sad :(

[@lemonshark4961]

It's on KZbin for free!!! Posted by the official winx account!

[@graced1446]

i was also so so upset with the whitewashing of the characters and the complete deletion of tecna! grrrrr, they didn’t even include wings!!

[@aflamingidiot4427]

Netflix 16 year old: depressed, drug addict, angsty, tries to kill someone with their powers, is agressive to everyone, probably writes angry poetry about how they hate their family and or life. Me, a 16 year old: Stares at snow for a while cause it looks so pretty at night, giggles uncontrollably cause they saw a picture of a pet snake in a hat, cries cause two wolves were playing and happy in an animated movie, (Wolfwalkers if you were wondering), reads comfort fics for too long, sees a very small and chubby puppy:"OH! Look it's a baebies. It's so wittle." Please don't take this as a "not like other teens!" post. I'm an edgy idiot but not in the way Netflix think.

[@fueledbypaintwater]

Lol I'm a cheerful and nice punk, so get you

[@markp1988]

the only form of media that shows teenagers good is anime they aren't edgy and are full of personality trust me you won't cringe unless you suspend your disbelief

[@akirathewildcard9625]

I thought I was alone when I started laughing at a snake in a sweater

[@Rosa-he6xb]

I seen Wolfwalkers too! Man I love Cartoon Saloon with their own unique art style and takes on Irish folklore💚 🤍🧡

[@maryagrimm8412]

well I'm a teenager and I will write edgy dark poetry and buy emo clothing but I have also done all of the above

[@ananyavallurupalli673]

Alright- I’m writing Dora the way Netflix would: Dora a teenager with abusive parents. She lives in the forest with her parents who are researchers. To escape the abuse from her parents she creates her own world where her backpack and map can talk. One day her parents burn the backpack and map because they don’t want some delusional child, this was the last straw and she runs away. Before she leaves the forest she meets boots- a talking monkey- tho to the audience it’s unclear whether or not the talking bit is dora’s imagination or not. Her parents want Dora back (for whatever reason idk) and it’s revealed that they’re actually in a mafia. They hire Swiper, a hot fox that steals stuff, to bring Dora back. Dora and boots almost make it but not before boots supposedly falls to his death while fighting swiper to save Dora. She’s heart broken and makes it out of the forest alone. Cut to dora’s parents again talking to boots. Where it’s revealed that boots worked for them all along. *end of season 1* Edit: Dora is played by a 27 year old even tho she’s supposed to be 16

[@user-tu9ke2zo8b]

I’d actually think that would be funny 😭

[@ananyavallurupalli673]

@@user-tu9ke2zo8b it would be hilarious ngl

[@Discohater4]

I'm sorry but "swiper the hot fox" is so funny to me XDD

[@ananyavallurupalli673]

@@Discohater4 he needs to be *ripped*

[@Discohater4]

@Ananya Vallurupalli he needs the love interest treatment since Netflix can't leave a hot character alone

[@genericname2747]

I'm going to be making a live action, edgy remake of My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic. The ponies are super realistic CGI and never show emotion. Also the main villain is Rarity. She's evil now. Everyone cries all the time and happiness is a lie. Pinkiepie is killed immediately and Nightmare Moon dies in agony.

[@nEdr-hw2319]

As a fan of the show I fully support this idea. But may I suggest making Cute Mark Crusaders serial killers to spice thing up?? Try selling it to Netflix they are probably going to love it!

[@genericname2747]

@@nEdr-hw2319 perfect idea. You are a story telling genius

[@nEdr-hw2319]

@@genericname2747 Thank you,thank you just ask for ideas if you need more drama or spice✨

[@eevee4817]

@@nEdr-hw2319 more girl, give us MORE!!

[@nEdr-hw2319]

@@eevee4817 lmao let’s make Fluttershy eat her “animal friend” she keeps at her house and Spike takes over the Crystal Empire by selling Cadence and Shining Armor to Chrysalis , also Applejack and Rainbow dash become mafia bosses I hope you are satisfied🙌✨

[@Silcos_lost_eyelashes]

Next show: Dora the explorer is a depressed girl that runs away from home

[@matikashu6033]

That sounds more plausible than I would like..

[@taytaythehufflepuff8532]

At least there’s already a movie about Dora that’s actually really good and funny.

[@clown-eyes]

No Dora 😭

[@taytaythehufflepuff8532]

@@LunaTheCommenter But the songs and breaking the 4th wall is what’s the best. I love that it really stayed true to the show.

[@lotusdragonjbh]

Watch this , Boots would be some super old man who was tricked by the devil to sell his children for bright red boots he can never take off.

[@thalianox2492]

Dear Netflix, not everything needs a dark, grim and gritty reboot

[@j3ssthealien283]

Legit the show had scarier moments because it was so lighthearted. so when it took that turn you became terrified for both the characters and yourself. Technic nightmare from the dream demon episode freaking terrifying an existentialist as shit.

[@mycrazyworldgacha9729]

"Lets make every kid depressed and ruined their life" -Netflix

[@bookdragon9667]

T H I S

[@cyberxolim]

Fr

[@supercuteanimegirrl7759]

They’re copying Latvia 🙄

[@mightychondria666]

Shoto: copycatsx

[@black-nails]

and when they make realistic teens for once with problems it get's cancelled 😃💔

[@TurtlesAndTortoises302]

I have never once used the word "mansplain" if a male underestimates me, that's it, conversation over. No accusations of "mansplaining" I just don't have time for ignorant people

[@nessyness5447]

And it was out of context, like ....poor guy was just offering to help a new student to find her way around the school.that's not mansplaining, is called being nice to new students

[@mfriz5317]

I don’t understand why Netflix thinks teenagers don’t like colours or colourful things? Like you can add more the dark blue gray and red...we won’t be upset. Would have loved winx to have a more fun aesthetic like euphoria or something.

[@daphnia9664]

netflix is allergic to color

[@kerri6011]

exactly Winx club touched on a lot of darker subjects while being bright and colorful a lot of kid shows manage to do it Adventure Time, Teen Titans, Avatar the last Airbender, etc

[@JC_artz]

When you look at things like the movie Avatar ( not the ATLA one the actual avatar movie) and stuff and you just realize that older movies are better than newer ones

[@death1019]

I mean I was emo as a teen and still loved Sailor moon, W.I.T.C.H, Hamtaro, and other similar things.

[@dum..]

Winx club was the perfect mix of dark and colorful.. I mean, they literally killed one of the characters through out the show, treats and explains dark or horror topics like: genocide(ex. Bloom's past), toxic relationships (Musa and Riven, Valtor and the Trix, Stella's parents), passive aggressive behavior (Riven's anger issues), manipulation (Vilains did that quite often, surely you remember), trauma(My God, so many characters with traumas like Musa my bb 😭) , LITERALLY MYTHOLOGICAL HORROR MONSTERS THAT RAPED WOMEN IN THEIR SLEEP (very very old episode where the Trix summon a incubus and allows the incubus to haunt the winx), child neglect(Somewhat resembles Aisha's trauma, i definetely remember something else similar to child neglect but i can't remember), body shame (The enchantix serie where Stella becomes a monster and Brandon loves her passionately despite her appearance), disability (Alot of characters without wings that were bullied for it, like Musa's world princess), slavery(I mean almost all the vilains did that so), WAR(MULTIPLE TIMES) , LITERAL APOCALYPSE SCENARIOS (aka the first serie *cough cough* the enchantix serie) , envy (Surely you see where I'm coming from), revenge wishes (literally the main topic in the believix serie). I could go on and on, I only talked about the first 4 seasons. This is why i openly tell people I still watch and love this show. I watched it since when I was 4, and it was created in my country so i have basically everything regard it. Edit: Spelling

[@freshcupofangst]

Never watched Winx when I was Smoll, but as a fan of the Percy Jackson books I feel this fandom's pain.

[@brokendaylight13]

Same bro

[@fueledbypaintwater]

Yep pjo had it the worst

[@Aphelia.]

I love how you said smol

[@meridaskywalker7816]

Luckilly we're getting a show soon!

[@uno.raeverse]

They did y’all dirty, man. I’m sorry.

[@wirelessly__]

I really think that netflix is trying too hard to “appeal to” teenagers and young adults. It’s fine to have things edgy, but something like literally destroying the personality of characters that are supposed to be sweet is going overboard.

[@cursedcandy800]

Ikr

[@endlessemptyvoid]

Honestly, just looking at Netflix's version of Riven... Yeah, they really try to appeal to their idea of teens and YAs. "Let's make this character super edgy, alcoholic and, OF COURSE, he loves weed!" Ew.

[@crowwithashortcake]

@@endlessemptyvoid who doesnt love weed

[@zohabaig6426]

But also, WHO is this appealing to? I watched the original Winx, I'm in the target demographic for this show, but why on earth would I want to see desaturated edgy versions of my favorite characters? I also don't know anyone who is snarky and annoying like that in real life, because most real humans actually try to be nice to people!

[@spiritualsnail1584]

What's kinda silly is that the targeted audience is young adults, but young adults cringe and only teenagers like it

[@Raikantopini-b4k]

Children's shows: exists Netflix: It's free real estate

[@demonheart13]

Nostalgia: this is a kids show Netflix: but what if we gave everyone severe depression, kept them underage, but completely focused on their sex lives

[@kokojuice1138]

I really dislike the fact that they completely ignored the fact that musa is asian.

[@supernova-o3i]

Haha

[@zeearts9484]

And they made Flora white!

[@Uniyou0459]

and techna doesn't exist

[@-ib.3869]

Exactly!!!!

[@mysticalmulberries]

my childhood is officially ruined ;_;

[@angie.castle]

Oh, and considering how depressing the world is right now, I feel like a light, fun, colorful adaptation would've been a breathe of fresh air. Something dreaming and magical to take use away from all this dread

[@tappydani9378]

I just watch Bluey lol

[@middleeasternforhire8985]

Fr man im too depressed to watch edgy stuff give me pink and sparkly

[@_soft_tea_]

I like that for a while people were pushing the norm that girls can have a darker tomboyish style but now that's literally all I see- I am uber-feminine and especially now people think it's dumb to be feminine because I'm "conforming to gender norms" no Sharon I just like the color pink and like dresses leave me alone.

[@Hyacinth-Blue]

Pink's a _colour_ for goodness' sake, what's the problem with liking it?

[@SugiyamaHiromin]

Seriously, I'm not that feminine, but I have history inspired wardrobe that's kinda preppy and girly (skirts, dresses, pinafores, poofy sleeves, blouses, and frills). I used to be the type that was against anything girly (god forbid I had to wear a skirt when I was 14) and now I want to smack my old self for hating anything pink/red and anything that wasn't pants and hoodie just because it was too "girly."

[@Hyacinth-Blue]

@@SugiyamaHiromin I was similar as I think a ten-year-old, I absolutely despised pink, but now the problem with pink for me is more that people use bright/neon pink which in my opinion looks disgusting, and I'm fine with pink as long as it looks nice and doesn't burn my eyes out.

[@SugiyamaHiromin]

@@Hyacinth-Blue I'm not that comfy in pink (only certain warm shades like peach, rose and dusty pink cause my skin is warm toned) but I can appreciate how it looks and actually use it along with warm reds. Neons tend to look better on people who are more flashy and modern (as opposed to my old style) and have cold skin tone.

[@SpringStarFangirl]

I never really liked pink when I was younger, but my style definitely has some feminine edge to it. Finding me in something that doesn't include a skirt or a dress is very very rare, and I don't mind ruffles and elaborate stuff so long as it's not uncomfortable and doesn't get in the way of me living my life. (I'm sensitive to touch.) The coloration is admittedly very cool- blues and greens and grays dominate my wardrobe- but that's more because cool colors contrast my red hair better.

[@cjc689]

Blues clues netflix reboot: a depressed guy named Steve runs away from home and finds an old cottage in the haunted woods with a scary blue murder dog. Steve’s job is to kill Blue so he can escape.

[@Dragon_prince90]

Plot twist : he is having an extremely bad LSD trip

[@cjc689]

@@Dragon_prince90 yes. Just yes.

[@Dragon_prince90]

@@cjc689 mate, I want some .

[@pogget5523]

*Depressed detective, that sounds familiar*

[@mariunfabregas7533]

Nah, innacurate. To be a true Netflix reboot, you need more *S E X S C E N E S,* preferrably with underaged characters who are played by 30 year olds so no one can call the writers out for being pedophiles. Because surely a show can't be mature without it, right?

[@itiswhatitismindset]

"Sailor Moon if they got their hands on her" Netflix: *Write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN!*

[@ifeeldead463]

Oh god, they'll pull a Light Turner on her too lol

[@DrGregoryHouseIT]

Saban Moon flashback

[@ЕкатеринаСеренкова]

Sailor Moon, a manga which loses its own anime adaption in every way. I mean, crystal is unwatchable.

[@JeffreyThrash]

There was an attempt to “Americanize” Sailor Moon before it came to the US, ironically. One of RebelTaxi’s videos covers it briefly.

[@murakamiyoko681]

@@ЕкатеринаСеренкова That’s a matter of opinion. 😅 I personally prefer Crystal over the 90’s anime adaptation, in most aspects.

[@zillyhooo]

Edgy Reboot Movie: *exists* LavenderTowne: So you have chosen....redesign

[@aashycoconut]

Lmao

[@imaybecringebutimfree]

I hate it when Netflix takes a perfectly good kid’s show and destroys literally everything about it that made it a perfectly good kid’s show

[@littlesongbird7881]

They really don’t care about making it good they take a popular kid shows that teens used to watch and try to make it “relatable” and “for teens”. they just want money

[@DivineDEC]

They made she-ra

[@hayoumad8775]

@@DivineDEC Ay she-ra was actually really good😤

[@lavender_milktea2810]

I hate when they take ANYTHING and ruin it like Death Note the live action Netflix adaptation made me wanna cry in frustration and disappointment

[@rippingoutbookpages7224]

... perfectly good show. Period.

[@Carbonated_Clara]

Okay, so now I really want a love action magical girl show. Like it doesn't have to be a reboot or anything, but omg can you imagine the costumes? Big fluffy, poofy, silky dresses with lace and bows! I can see them being so gorgeous if the effort was actually made for it, and it would be so fun to watch!

[@death1019]

Not sure if you are into Sailor Moon but Japan has at least one series that is live action. Not sure if it is any good to watch but it looks nice.

[@Carbonated_Clara]

@@death1019 Omg really? Aaaa, thank you so much for letting me know! I'll definitely check it out! ^^

[@kyoshiec5340]

next remake: mlp is now abused horses that find a dragon egg

[@crystalizedghost1575]

Last thing i remember from this show is defeating some pinky imposter who made whole village equal WHAT HAPPENED?

[@thesunisdark1]

@@sarahbunnig2212 why Celestia and Luna need to retire, Alicorns are immortals ? So that's also mean that Twilight will live and see her friends die, that's sad.

[@crystalizedghost1575]

@@sarahbunnig2212 oh wow

[@shoaibakmal3151]

God Pray Netflix never gets its slimy little hand on MLP

[@Slomurr]

The edgy side of the mlp fandom in a nutshell.

[@giuliad223]

All Netflix does is take girly shows that had a fair amount of success and turn them into stereotypical male targeted superhero cliché shows. Like, "yes this is better but it would be even better if it appealed to m e n" and the result? Everybody hates it

[@giuliad223]

I've seen the last episode today and all those comments about how lame it would have been to have Bloom transform the classic Twinkerbell way, but it was so cool to have her transform in that broody, fiery, bad green screen way, that had me cringe so hard. Just say you're a mysoginist at this point

[@randomhumanbeing5416]

Literally if it was like tinkerbell I would’ve flipped. Do you know how a w e s o m e that would be? But no. It was b o r i n g. I wanted a live action magical girl transformation damn it!

[@giuliad223]

@@randomhumanbeing5416 yes! Exactly! Boring is the right word

[@bituinl]

I 100% don’t think it targets men but women. It’s common these types of things get targeted for women.

[@giuliad223]

@@bituinl yeah that's the damn point it's Winx it's obviously for the girls why make it so moody and broody

[@nyxnightmare8482]

I feel like every time they try and make a movie centered around girls they try and make them more like Bella from twilight, cause we have really desaturated colours constant conflicting emotions, complete disregard towards everything and constantly feel that everything is centered around them

[@xfakelucid6504]

Don't you love it when 40 year old men try to write a movie about teen girls

[@pieceofcheese3639]

You have described her PERFECTLY.

[@asterisque9252]

Avtually, the movie Bella seemed emotionless almost, unlike the books... but yeah, you're right

[@RikaRieGaming]

@@asterisque9252 I mean all around she was a boring character but they might had told movie Bella to act like that.

[@asterisque9252]

@@RikaRieGaming hmm i think you maybe b right! Agreed

[@lucydale3214]

As a teenager, i can say that these "dark and edgy" teen shows almost always feel off (and also teenagers act nothing like this???). also side note but how are there almost no people in hoodies? that's like,, 80% of what we wear?

[@JC_artz]

Me and my friends are teens and some of my best friends still do quite childish jokes... I don’t think we need all the edginess lol

[@lemon967]

Litteraly and its not like some edgy shit isn't nice some times its just that this overabundance of it makes it feel cringy and uncomfortable.

[@randompatchofgrass5034]

The only shirts I wear are hoodies so like yeah where are they

[@lucydale3214]

@@lemon967 Exactly. its the fact that you can tell they're trying too hard to be edgy that just makes it unwatchable

[@adhdweirdo4314]

We need some big oversized sweaters and leggings people!! What kinda teenager actually tried most of the time??? Like, maybe once a month they can dress up trendy and how the like , but let’s be real I’m not gonna try more then once a month

[@violaceamare]

I honestly LIKE darker versions of fun childhood shows. However, someone needs to talk to Netflix about what they think is dark/edgy/relevant because the over dramatized stuff needs to stop.

[@violaceamare]

@Darling Vexa Art I feel like there is, especially in a world where good original ideas are harder and harder to come by. Remaking a show from someone's childhood and making it a more mature version that speaks more to those people grown up is an alright business model. However, I'm fine with our opinions disagreeing. I hope you have a wonderful weekend!

[@elliedove7899]

Yes, taking a darker, sometimes more real look at childhood favorites can be amazing. This just ain't it cheif

[@violaceamare]

@@elliedove7899 Never said it was it, chief

[@SamJ.J.]

Literally just make a new show. If the only thing that stays the same is the names you would be better off just changing those as well.

[@violaceamare]

@@SamJ.J. Shows like these remind me of fanfiction, where sometimes the only thing that stays the same are the names. And I like fanfiction. I have no issue with this show other than the unnecessary "woke" ness and dramatization

[@InactiveTwig]

Netflix teen: Omfg I hate my parents, *does drugs*, *climbs out of the window to go to parties*, *almost murders their parents* I'm so emo yuh Actual teens: lmaooo look it's a sQuirReL

[@ilovecucumbers15]

XD

[@averagemcdonaldsbaddie1068]

XD I’m not a teen yet but it sounds pretty fun 😸 Why? BECAUSE SQUIRRELS ARE ADORBS

[@zannis5441]

The first one sounds like Steven Universe Future

[@fueledbypaintwater]

Ok not even emos are like that lol 😂

[@akirathewildcard9625]

Because sQuirReLs are adorables

[@verumgaudium1564]

As a mentally ill person... Can we not make characters that act like how I see myself, in shambles and like something's broken. I would prefer to watch somebody that makes me feel better, not makes me feel worse via stress. And please, don't patronize me.

[@taytaythehufflepuff8532]

Tbh, as long as it’s realistically portrayed, I’m fine with it. I don’t want to watch something that feels like an 11 year old’s fanfiction. Nobody gets over depression by having a bf/gf.

[@mysteryzero213]

Huh?

[@randomhumanbeing5416]

Honestly mood and do something you enjoy! You deserve it (sorry if this sounds patronizing I don’t mean it to be)

[@verumgaudium1564]

Prof. Turtle Queen nah, you're fine. Thanks

[@sydney.5235]

YES!! I would much rather watch a character be a fun, sweet person rather than an “edgy” character who’s only personality trait is having a mental illness

[@unicornburgers302]

What I hate the most about having adults play teens is, it’s usually used as a way to get away with sexualising high schoolers.

[@randomgrmlin]

Omg yes. It’s disgusting!

[@JeffreyThrash]

These shows still get lauded for being “woke” regardless.

[@monkeman1519]

Honestly yeah it just makes all the scenes look gross and uncomfortable. I don’t want to see a 25 year old chiseled man acting as a high schooler being edgy and sexual

[@lauramarschmallow2922]

"Traditionally" women were expected to be kind, caring and friendly/ supportive and men were expected to be strong and aggressive. And in lue of "feminism gone wrong" SOMEHOW the connotation of "women who are kind" was mixed up with "when a woman is kind she supports the partriarchy". And in another wisted way this came to mean that "women need to be portrayed as gruff and aggressive and/or better (in everything) than men or else they are weak". Which is in a way also mysogynist!

[@user-dl3vn8ze9n]

Women need to be kind. Not beause society says, but because that's basic respect!

[@ladylynx9891]

Exactly

[@meridaskywalker7816]

@@user-dl3vn8ze9n EVERYONE needs to be kind.

[@randomthingsstudio]

The thing that I liked most about Winx, was there outfits weren’t stereotypical to the power they had! Like how Bloom has fire/dragon magic yet wears all BLUE! It’s not something you see all the time. Though it’s not with every character it makes you think about ways to shock your audience with designs :3

[@landoncluff3415]

Let’s be honest, they ruin everything with their “reboots”. Haley just kinda sugarcoated in this video lol.

[@mme.veronica735]

The only good reboot I know of is She-ra and that had a few different things. They had it animated, it was made child appropriate, they collaborated with other creators (Dreamworks), it was *hella* gay, and it wasn't needlessly grim.

[@landoncluff3415]

@@mme.veronica735 yes I agree, I actually really like the new She-Ra, and also Carmen Sandiego. They didn’t stray too far from the video game.

[@donkkut5003]

@@mme.veronica735 and the voltron reboot was amazing too

[@haveagoodmourning]

@@mme.veronica735 Yes! Also, Series Of Unfortunate Events balanced "edgy" with "whimsical" super duper well, and the adaptation of Umbrella Academy was great. Netflix does have the occasional gem :D

[@despicablepenguin]

@@haveagoodmourning I might be wrong here but aren't those attributed to the writers, not the studio? The studio just oversees things right?

[@coainc]

the thing i hate most about this is that it seems they've taken away most of the stereotypically very feminine/female associated elements from the original cartoon, as if you couldn't be girly and love fashion and makeup and follow trends while having powers and fighting bad guys. then they slapped on some fake performative "wokeness" bullshit (oh god that mansplaining clip WHY) and whitewashed some characters and there you have it; an atrocity

[@fladerud9375]

Yes! Like why is Stella such an awful person in the show? Is it because she's feminine? I don't get why they had to ruin her character.

[@idontknowreally2474]

@Max Hawkins I don't exactly have a HUGE problem when an LGBTQ character is a typically "bad person." I actually quite enjoy LGBTQ antagonists and would like to see them a lot more. I dont think a character being LGBTQ should add any other 🤔 limits? I think they should be treated as any other character.

[@poppixie101]

I used to look up to both Flora and Musa as a tan-skin Asian kid, and not gonna lie, the white washing kinda hurts me here.

[@brunetteartist24]

@@poppixie101 same

[@idontknowreally2474]

@@poppixie101 Yeah :(

[@weaselsoda]

Can we please talk about how cringey the dialogue is in Riverdale? like, I can’t even.

[@BeeYootie]

I stopped watching when they went and did stuff with babies around a campfire. That was it for me

[@manuba_]

For me just the fact they straight-washed an aroace character was enough to piss me off

[@welcome_to_nowhere]

@@manuba_ That was always something that bugged me.

[@lavender_milktea2810]

The musical parody episodes make river dale worse I stopped watching in season 2 cause I was bored but than they made musical episodes and I now despise of riverdale

[@ppcaprisun]

@@BeeYootie That's where I stopped watching too. I liked season 1 and 2 and then *boom* babies floating over a fire.

[@NessaArianna]

I know this is off topic but after seeing how you drew Bloom, I would LOVE to see you design the rest of the Winx girls! I'm real interested to see how you would go along with dressing them up and all

[@hedvig5220]

The thing that disapointed me the most is how they made everything so grey and boring + the fact that they made an asian and latina WHITE.

[@madluxurious7749]

maybe it's just casting parts, like about who is more talented because if they stay true to their character race shouldn't matter, but to the untrained eye it's just classic white washing.

[@randomgrmlin]

@@madluxurious7749 There are talented latina and asian actresses tho

[@mice8791]

@@madluxurious7749 thats’s literally the line hollywood has been using for decades

[@rottingross]

@@madluxurious7749 its fact that there ae many great Latina and Asian actors but Hollywood only wants white ones

[@sea-of-dirac]

@@madluxurious7749 I think you meant "great latina and asian actors are terrible and white actors are always better"

[@lunam0thh_live]

I don’t know if you’d see this, but I have a small idea: Umbrella Academy comic vs Netflix Adaptation? 😅 Edit: I’m not trying to say one is better than the other, I too, like both the comics and the Netflix adaptation. I just thought it would be cool to see a comparison between each of them

[@username5741]

YES (even though the Netflix adaptation was cool despite the differences)

[@danaekoloka9819]

Tbh it's the only adaptation I'm in love with

[@lunam0thh_live]

@@danaekoloka9819 I’d have to agree, even tho the comics are just *chefs kiss*

[@kingofallhallowseve]

YES

[@Ansytea]

@@lunam0thh_live Y e s. I love them both ♥ I hope LavenderTowne does that idea haha

[@galaxyunicorn6936]

"Feel free to wipe your tears with the million dollar bills you probably have lying around." DANG GIRL

[@wintersnowcloud]

That's my favorite LavenderTowne quote of all the the LavenderTowne videos made... That's gold.

[@chidubememma-ugwuoke2315]

@@wintersnowcloud same

[@michaelcheng9987]

I honestly want a show that's not afraid to be cute and colorful and magical and amazing, while also being dark and dramatic and tragic and terrifying. I think I just want a show that's not afraid period.

[@m00nl1ghtj3w3l]

Puella Magi Madoka Magica is a very good anime for that. It deals with dark themes (such as hopelessness, depression, grieving etc) but the character's designs are all cute and colorful (Madoka literally wears the poofiest pink and white dress EVER with tons of bows lol). I think you should check it out, tho idk if it's on Netflix.

[@lurkerofthenight]

Late to the party but "Princess Tutu" is unapologetically girly while also being dark and dramatic. Give it a go because its criminally underrated c:

[@Sakura_Aki_Chan]

“I’m gonna draw Usagi the way I imagine Netflix would if they had their hands on her” PLEASE HALLIE NO THEY ALREADY HAVE DEATH NOTE DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS

[@death1019]

At risk of jinxing things, what's the worst they can do to Death Note? Its already edgy and terrifying. (At least from what I recall from reading it a decade ago.) Totally agree that they shouldn't be touching any other anime though.

[@Meowkid1000]

@@death1019 ... did you not see Netflix’s death note live action? If so I wish I were you 😔

[@death1019]

@@Meowkid1000 yikes! Sorry. I hadn't heard anything about the death note one so I thought it worked out better than these. Sorry. I shouldn't have assumed.

[@avaedwards9133]

@@death1019 They didn't make it edgier... they changed the plot. Light yagami?? Nahh let's make is Name sound like it's from America!! Misa?? Nahh Mia is way better.. etc.

[@death1019]

@@avaedwards9133 so... they gave it the 4kids treatment? 😕 what is wrong with Netflix?

[@gabriellem9161]

I'm just TIRED of nostalgia bait, if you're going to change the whole aesthetic, characters (visuals and personality), location, worldbuilding, plotlines and conflicts JUST MAKE A NEW SHOW. If u think bland character with a riverdale filter on and some sex and drugs sprinkled in the middle are gonna be enough reasons for a series to air, why make the old fans mad?

[@RedPilledAsFuck]

Yeah, facts man. I’m so sick of reboots and remakes in general. Feels like everything is a terrible remake of a wonderful original anymore. What’s up with that? Why must big companies keep ruining everything? Istg if I see one more live action Disney movie come out ...

[@blue1601]

@@RedPilledAsFuck I think it might be an issue with the live-action versions, because I thought the re-boot of She-ra was okay, and the re-boot of Carmen Sandiago was really good!

[@RedPilledAsFuck]

@@blue1601 yeah, live actions from cartoons is specifically sucky. There's also been remakes of already great live action movies though, witches for one. Which I despise and never will watch because I'm sure they'd just make me angry haha

[@questionablechoices6347]

not even anything to reply with, you are just absolutely right. It makes me so frustrated thinking about what this reboot could’ve been.

[@mikkogeneration]

@@questionablechoices6347 nice pfp. and I agree too.

[@lilabenford7159]

They can’t ruin winx too- that thing was my childhood, they need to stop ruining it 🥲

[@mars5277]

Ikr, I saw it being released on Netflix and thought it was a joke cause it looked nothing like how I saw it as a kid.

[@Theclawdeen26]

how can someone ruin your childhood when your not a child anymore? it doesnt erased the original cartoon, watch it instead and ignore the live action? i suppose its too complicated for people x)

[@lilabenford7159]

@@Theclawdeen26 ....I understand just the fact that it exists is kinda hurting

[@Theclawdeen26]

@@lilabenford7159 wo, ur life must be complicated for many things then. ^^

[@just_that_girl3873]

@@Theclawdeen26 it kind of tarnishes the memory of something you really loved. The fact that some people will remember winx as another failed Netflix adaptation just hurts my seven year old self

[@vend1ngmachine169]

Also they made raven from teen titans soft like wtf the one time you actually had an ‘edgy’ character you made her nice?

[@nessyness5447]

And why could they not paint starfire orange??? Why???

[@lkun9051]

Wait there is a teen titans live action remake!?

[@vend1ngmachine169]

Um no there is a Netflix original series called titans

[@lkun9051]

@@vend1ngmachine169 that's even worse

[@vend1ngmachine169]

@@handsomerat5926 what do you mean

[@katherine6181]

Netflix: TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS WANT EDGY TV teens and young adults: She-Ra is life

[@autumnwillow3284]

yes. just yes.

[@transphobesarestillrampant]

Yes it is!

[@lucydale3214]

YES!!!

[@beetleeatssoap5049]

i spy a fellow lore olympus fan👀

[@9croissants]

Fellow She-Ra fan!

[@hot-iced-coffee1295]

Netflix proves that big companies are never in touch with their consumers.

[@maeee-jh552]

The thing that gets me is that if they wanted to make a so called darker version of winx they already had material from the original show like I could list off so many examples off the top of my head. Riven and Musa's toxic relationship Aisha going blind Nabu dying Daphne sacrifice herself to save bloom Bloom and Roxy being survivors of literal genocide Sky's amnesia Dark bloom Techna scarifing herself to save Andros Stella's divorced parents Musas dead mom Musa's strict dad Floring saving her sister at her own risk Animal abuse Pollution Aisha arranged marriage Skys arranged marriage Brandon and Sky identity swap and Stella not caring Etc. And this is just off the top of my head which leads me to think that didn't watch the show, hell they even had the love triangle they wanted (diaspro, bloom sky. Helia flora crystal. Misty Stella Brandon. Darcei musa riven). Okay thats all for my little rant.

[@Dressup_Doll]

I know it’s been years but, WHAT HAPPENED!?

[@thejazzy6012]

The show had a plot! I swear they didnt even watch or like it, they just brushed it off as a silly kids show and tried to make it super hero

[@gracewhitene3912]

.

[@maeee-jh552]

@@Dressup_Doll chile, a lot I recommend rewatching it tho because my little list wasn't even all of it.

[@lixyororke]

@@Dressup_Doll some of this is in like. the first few seasons. in fact i think MOST of this is like, seasons 1-5 at the latest. i think season 5 was the last time i watched the show (its on season 8 apparently IDK if it’s still running) and i remembered all of this. the show is kinda wild

[@user-cq5oy5uh3y]

I’ve watched Fate. And most of the time I either hated Bloom or plainly forgot that the show was based off of Winx Club. Like, It’s so unnecessarily dark. They made Bloom into your stereotypical Teen movie, “I’m different” cringe girl that you end up hating.

[@Starstruk_Books]

Netflix: let’s remake kids shows! Also Netflix: but let’s make them overly dark and edgy because be don’t want them to be TOO childish so let’s eliminate all childish element

[@elliedove7899]

That includes the fun, cause fun is only for kids

[@noobmasterruben5167]

I love it when Netflix makes darker version of comic books like Umbrella Academy but I just dont get Y on earth would U mess with a cartoon that isnt supposed to be edgy

[@Echo-Of-Noise]

@@elliedove7899 and colors, we can't add colors to an adult show, did we mention this is a show for adults? Everyone is so so real, no one even knows what sympathy is!

[@sodaghozt]

Can’t wait for the edgy my little pony reboot in a few years

[@the_spit_on_grandmas_flabb5379]

They're gonna make them all ketamine addicts.

[@mononami]

Seems like that would be a little weird in live action, ngl

[@daphnia9664]

pony sex scenes

[@the_spit_on_grandmas_flabb5379]

@@daphnia9664 Oh no , no no no

[@just_me_dalila]

No no no, I pray that never happens 😭

[@0bs1d1anKn1ght]

When Netflix needs a new show “quick let’s find another kids show to ruin”

[@Dragon_prince90]

Lol, that do be true

[@pogget5523]

I’m praying that they don’t take any animes

[@hexxedthorn]

I'm thinking somewhere between Kim possible (even though disney did that bit) and Danny Phantom is next. Unless they're tryna keep with ruining happy go lucky girl empowerment type shows. Then it will probably be monster high or barbie or something.

[@0bs1d1anKn1ght]

I think Netflix already has monster high and barbie

[@hexxedthorn]

@@0bs1d1anKn1ght oh no...it's too late!

[@bmx9757]

I saw the trailer for the Netflix one,and thought “yo,is that that one show from nick years ago? Nah,too edgy.” And moved on. Cant believe its actually the same show.

[@playeroneill9750]

I’m not old enough to have watched/read the original Sabrina and Riverdale, but as someone who grew up on Winx I can start to understand how much they butchered Sabrina and Riverdale

[@raylen162]

In my opinion they made sabrina better its a REALLY good show and very entertaining

[@monkeyming5545]

I remember reading old Archie comics in 3rd grade, they were really funny and I loved them so when Riverdale came out, I was shocked and very confused when I heard it was supposed to be Archie

[@JC_artz]

Dude I read archie comics and even though I have not watched it I have heard river dale is nothing like the comic and wins is still a show I really like and I’m not excited for the live action one ( don’t know if I’ll watch it ever)

[@oonooooooooo]

@@raylen162 it was super good and it kinda started sucking around season 2-3... it’s definitely better than riverdale but that last season was nothing compared to the first

[@iaceds]

I am not old enough to have read the comics. My mom was a big fan of Sabrina. When I was like 9 the old cartoons were on Netflix. So the franchise was really important to me. Sabrina is supposed to be fun loving and troublesome girl. She isn’t supposed to worship the devil.

[@respectthefish4992]

netflix: lets make it super diverse also netflix: whitewashing Musa and Flora

[@GhostlyNerve]

Oh my god.. I’m never watching that.

[@AzucarPeas]

And then they said...techna doesn’t exist

[@rachellang8615]

Flora it even in the show the girl that in it her name is terra or something like that and she Flora's cousin as she said to in the fish episode I believe

[@Cadzillion]

@@AzucarPeas they didn't!!!

[@shadowhuntressowo6716]

I was so sad. I love Musa and seeing her as a fary that dosen't even has her real powers

[@wheezertthudd3216]

Netflix: how can we make wink club appeal to an older audience but still keep the same plot? Also Netflix: DrUgS

[@Abyssal.jellyfish]

I really hate how shows scare away from feminine aesthetics when making any live adaptations. As if they aren’t able to be dark or carry dark topics and mood. It’s also made me feel like we are still forcing kids to grow up and just leave behind femininity and brightness even if they don’t want to

[@letsdaze1168]

I’m still pissed about them getting rid of The Trix and Tecna The og winx animation also talked about dark topics like death and war but it was still colorful and bright. So Netflix do better

[@blu2507]

THEY GOT RID OF THE TRIX- BYE-

[@randomhumanbeing5416]

IKR!! I TOOK ONE LOOK AT THE “VILLAIN CHARACTERS” AND I WAS LIKE WOAH WOAH WOAH HOLD UP WHERE DID SOME OF MY FAVORITE VILLAINS GO

[@fueledbypaintwater]

Imagine if they got ahold of Clone Wars...

[@purple.st4rz_556]

Wait they got rid of TECNA????? SHE WAS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER DANG IT-

[@rocket_starz]

I think Netflix is still caught up in the idea that all teens wanna be mature and like "I'm 16 I'm practically an adult". When in reality we be just playing minecraft, praising frogs, and laughing at the Juan memes.

[@oonooooooooo]

i’m in high school and all of my friends would rather laugh at poop jokes and binge watch all the disney fairy movies.

[@onsideramen4809]

Yes. All we want is more Anime and good Disney films. Yesterday my mother had me watch 'over the hedge' with her, [Yes, I found the meme in it] and it was fun xd

[@littlelady9801]

They're mistaking 11 year olds who want to be adults with actual teenagers...teens don't want edgy bad stuff, we want wholesome stuff

[@Cyberneticfrk]

Netflix idea of teens: "It'S nOt A fAzE mOm@1!@@! GoD lEaVe Me AlOnE, i'M 16 sO i'M a GrOwN uP" Actual teens: "alt. Gfs" "FUCK YEAH SHE-RA'S AWESOME" * laughing at dumb shit on the internet *

[@naolucillerandom5280]

@@ameliasellers6396 THIS! ✨

[@natalieo7539]

I just find it really annoying when they want to make traditionally "girly" shows more adult the instant thing is to literally make everything darker, pastel and neon colors cant apparently be taken seriously. Well, it's for adults/teens now so studios are like "well no one will take anyone seriously if someone wears pink. I liked that the girls were allowed to be traditionally girly and still heroic and cool like Stella and Musa were pretty opposite ends of the fashion spectrum but they both were powerful individuals. Idk it kinda speaks to some misogyny that for women to be badass and cool they need to stick to a grimdark aesthetic or else they won't be taken seriously, all the shows they "aged up/made more mature" got a darker pallet cause we can't take them seriously if they're into fashion. Female friendship isn't realistic let's just make them basically hate each other and have no moments cause that's what people want right.

[@thejazzy6012]

It makes me so mad, I loved that show cause im a girly girl! Why take away what everyone obviously loved!

[@natalieo7539]

@@thejazzy6012 I also loved that the show showed all the girls being really supportive of each other, I think a lot of shows even now show other women shaming other women in a sort of internalized misogyny as being cool and powerful, like hay guys look how boy crazy this girl is ...glad were not like her. I liked that the original Winx club let all the girls make their own mistakes without bloom or whoever being like "oh well you're boy crazy how stupid" they were supportive and that's what shows about female friendship should be about. I think its really popular for society to shit on things young girls like and then because of that so much media aimed at teen girls is about rejecting traditional feminine things in order to "grow up" I really appreciated that the show didn't act like its aesthetics hindered its exploration of its characters. like the new show is like "girl power.....but like you know only if your serious and dark....we cant have bloom flying around in fairy outfit that'd be childish.

[@lunagrace2872]

Yea I’m with you. I wanted an actual Winx show about girls from different backgrounds and fashion aesthetics learn to love each other and support each other. This show had an extreme amount of potential because I think people are sick of the dark, depressing, toxic relationship that really make no sense, especially what been happening this past year. People are more incline to watch a more positive show, super colorful and positive friendship. Which is what I was hoping for and needing. Well Netflix screwed up and it’s not surprising at all.

[@natalieo7539]

@@lunagrace2872 I hope Tv and movies are gonna get over their grim dark phase, or at least that the aesthetic of grimdark is the only aesthetic that can be used to tell "adult stories"

[@stannosaurus]

If they wanted to make it more adult, all they had to do was add a bit of complexity to some plot points and characters (though Winx Club was already pretty good on that level) and take out some or a lot of the repetitiveness. They really switched the whole show and all of its original and fantastic charm instead. 🙄 I would have loved to watch a live action Winx if it was done right. What a shame.

[@CraftyNessi]

"Feel free to wipe your tears with your million dollar bills lying around" Wow! If I never heard a burn explode louder.

[@sena0]

I think concept artists and the scriptwriters in Netflix think that all the teens like depressed, dark, edgy, and super rebel characters but NO! We're sick of them because they're literally everywhere! Your 'live-action Bloom' design was awesome btw! It could be really cool if you do rest of the girls too :)

[@renoirrr]

“...and not to be afraid of feminine things” THANK YOU! One thing I loved about Winx Club was their transformations and how feminine they looked. It made me feel better about being girly. Also idk man making femininity a bad thing sounds sexist

[@CleBiscuits]

Same nice im not alone

[@Tikamosh]

Modern feminism has a problem with femininity, they even attack it. It’s okay if a boy wants to be feminine and girly and that’s getting rid of toxic masculinity but if a woman wants to do what’s natural to a woman then that’s a problem.

[@CleBiscuits]

@@Tikamosh soecity is just 🗑 Not all but yea

[@renoirrr]

@@CleBiscuits u spoke facts

[@TheAce5399]

I'm a guy, I watched Winx Club as a kid and I liked it for the most part. I think totally Spies was more my thing, but just because it looks "girly" doesn't make it unattractive. I actually hated a lot of the "boy" shows because it made me feel like my entire sex was nothing but idiots who could only smash things or be nerdy and techy. I look at shows like this Winx and I'm just confused. Why is it bad for women to be feminine? Feminine doesn't mean weak, its just the opposite to masculine, which doesn't mean strong. They're different for a reason, but it doesn't mean that they are negative towards another. Now, would it be a little weird if they went all power rangers/magical girl with over the top transformations? yeah it'd be weird in a live action show. But that doesn't mean they have to go full on.....whatever this is.

[@BlindTurtle-yr1ch]

Amd the fact that in the comics jughead was ARO, and Netflix just said NOPE he's a straight white man 😑

[@genericname2747]

Jughead was an aro/ace icon. He just wanted burger and friendship.

[@nox6767]

And apparently Cole Sprouse actually tried to push for Jug to be aro/ace too, but netflix didn't think 10 different romance story lines at once were enough

[@beutiful019]

Sorry, what is ARO?

[@BlindTurtle-yr1ch]

@@beutiful019 it's an abbreviation of Aromantic (a lack of romantic Attraction)

[@wap5980]

What is amd?

[@clown5353]

12:09 you made an excellent point! Sometimes cutesty horror is more terrifying that dark horror. Just look at The Promised Neverland; the animation is adorable and the character designs are so cute! The colour palettes are stunning but the show is genuinely horrifying. But if you watch that and then watch something like a western horror movie the cute horror is usually more scary

[@breadbird]

when i first saw connie i didnt expect it to get that dark because of how cute she was how wrong i was

[@jonathansims967]

"I hope that Netflix aren't deeply hurt by that, and if they are you know feel free to wipe your tears with the million dollar bills that you probably have lying around" DAMN

[@ricksanchez584]

That was my favorite comment she made! So cutting.

[@lucialanczova1315]

killer queen.