The Effects of the Bomb: Hiroshima Nagasaki

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[@VitorsDen]

As a japanese, I find it very cruel to say that the innocent people in hiroshima and nagasaki deserved to die/suffer from the effects of radiation/lose their homes. I'm sure that the japanese soldiers treated inhumanely every person they considered an enemy, and I'm not doubting that. Neither I'm saying that the war could end faster and be less deadly if the bombs weren't dropped, because it wouldn't, or that the USA shouldn't have dropped the bombs. I'm just saying that the bombings were a tragic event for the people who lost their families and that no one should think that innocent civilians should die. Put the blame on the psycopathic soldiers and leadership. No innocent civilian deserves to die. Doesn't matter if he is american, german, russian, polish, japanese, chinese or whatever.

[@ralphbernhard1757]

East and West, our own "attitude problem" re. "using soldiers to fight wars on civilians" the same. Soooo Franklin *"first we made the commies strong, then we sang the Nam songs"* Roosevelt ...teamed up with ... Curtis *"first we made it rain fire, then we got stuck in commie mire"* LeMay *What could possibly go wrong?* The USA could have, and should have offered a conditional surrender, and used Japan as a bullwark against communism in Asia. By 1945, Japan was already militarily defeated. In both theatres of war, our leaders stupidly thought they could handle the commies and make little deals with Stalin. *"Feeding the crocodile with "little nations" hoping the crocodile would eat you last".* rotfl And what happened? Kicked out of China. War in Korea. Still in Korea. Then kicked out of Vietnam. Hundreds of proxy wars on every continent. Thousands dead, billions of dollars wasted during the Cold War. Now "Chy-naaah" is a problem? Well, "reap as you sow" counts for all, or so the saying goes. The Taiwan crisis? South China Sea? Suck it up, snowflakes.... Blow all your dollahs on patrolling the world... *A causal effect of a totally failed grand strategy.* The oldest war grand strategies are still valid. "In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good." Sun Tzu, The Art of War The mistake was thinking that "total war" invalidates age-old wisdom.

[@kleparaskevas2628]

The defeat of Japan brought the liberation of the Japanese people from totalitarian Shintoism.

[@VitorsDen]

@@kleparaskevas2628 that's ceirtainly a good thing, I'm not questioning that

[@ralphbernhard1757]

@@Woad_Brah They could have dropped the nukes on a military target, not a city full of civilians. Niigata Naval Arsenal across from Tokyo Bay for example, was not seriously damaged, and could have been chosen. I suggest stopping the apologia for evil leadership.

[@ralphbernhard1757]

@@Woad_Brah It doesn't sound like you're unhappy that the nukes were dropped on women and children. Is that what your Bible teaches you? Irrelevant. In case you are from the USA you paid the price, and you are continuing paying the price. See my first comment. Thousands of body bags. Billions of wasted dollars on constant wars.

[@Aviator1974]

Nuclear power amazes me. With a respect for the people affected it just shows the pure power of Mother Nature. Something that can’t be seen smelled or felt can release so much force and energy in a split second. The effect and speed of radiation exposure on the human body! Totally smashing to pieces your DNA . A truly but horrific material

[@emmanuelmathews1718]

Or at least interfering with mother nature. The atom is not supposed to split

[@Faceplant-hl5yn]

America : Drops A-bomb Japan: Bruh.... America: Can we come and film the damage done?

[@thevaulttuber7543]

Whats your point?

[@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse]

@@thevaulttuber7543 The point is the bombs were really dropped as an experiment

[@thevaulttuber7543]

@@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse That isn't the sole reason why they were really dropped. Look at Okinawa.

[@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse]

@@thevaulttuber7543 Yes it is. The bombs were dropped on virgin untouched populated cities to look at their effects, and to impress the Russians. Since the US was at war with Japan its was a great excuse to use the nukes. After they dropped them the US sent scientists to Hiroshima and Nagasaki to record the effects

[@thevaulttuber7543]

@@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse The reason why it was dropped was that they were at war with Japan. With how bloody Okinawa was, the U.S knew an invasion of the homeland would be worse. So the guys from the Manhattan project have a perfect premise to present to Truman and everyone else. I don't think Russia would need to see Hiroshima and Nagasaki know America's new bad toy. The USSR had spies everywhere. They would know about it well before Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[@abooga8]

Long after its end, WW2 rages on in internet comment sections like this one.

[@burgersbiblesaeh849]

True

[@shashashashadowbannedbud4371]

No doubt, i reckon its hard for some folks to see it as proper history,ya know. Cheers

[@johnb.8687]

International Jewish Bolsheviks are consolidating their power.

[@estusflask982]

My right ear really enjoyed this video

[@maverickrahming531]

The narrator is depicting in explicit detail about the damage to buildings and infrastructure barely mentioning the most important loss ...... The loss of lives.

[@mastergunj7514]

so true. I was sad when I saw the outline of a human on that bridge but yeah buildings seemed more important than lives

[@MikeSmith-cn6ub]

Lol no they are military they only wanted to know how they could destroy Russia if they had to. No one points out we didn't want war the japs did. We just gave it to them. So when your little panties are in a bunch remember that. They are the ones that wanted war, not us we just ended it so we could go home. So remember they asked for it we gave it to them. It like the big bad ass on the street starting shit until he gets his ass beat then all the sudden he's calling the police for help. Lol well what did you start it fir? I'd all you were gonna do is cry when you got yoyr ass beat. Chumps

[@waynepatterson5843]

Maverick Rahming --- The narrator is depicting in explicit detail about the damage to buildings and infrastructure barely mentioning the most important loss ...... The loss of lives. Wayne Patterson --- The U.S. Army Signal Corps documentary was made to highlight the effects of the atomic bombs upon civil engineering and not upon military engineering or medical effects. The determinations would not and could not be determined until decades later. Film documentation of the medical injuries were classified information and discouraged with the exception of some limited medical documentation to avoid incitement of hatreds which could interfere with the Occupation of Japan and the restoration of food supplies and civil relief to avoid famine and epidemics of disease in Japan. For similar reasons to promote the restoration of peaceful relations in the postwar era there was also a general policy to suppress film documentaries and publications which detailed the extent of the war crimes and cruelties inflicted by the Japanese against Allied prisoners of war, Allied civilians, and Neutral internees.

[@apophis2129]

We are fools if we don't learn from the past.

[@lorihanlon5389]

We have, Our So Called Leaders Haven’t 😢

[@SMSimon]

I swear I was shown this film while in school during the 90s, and it absolutely terrified me. We were just coming out of the Cold War and had grown up with fears from Russia.

[@MikeSmith-cn6ub]

GucknRuddia you may have feared them but us real men wanted to go fight them. Speak for yourself fear these nuts.

[@xdmobb17x17]

​@@MikeSmith-cn6ub your cool

[@moonalunae1192]

Imagine the school kids....And the thing is, none IMMEDIATELY died. Some only lived for a few days. Some only a few seconds or minutes. R.I.P. Not just to the kids, but everyone else too ❤🙏

[@johnjecdevera4092]

Watch the video of how the Japanese soldiers torture, raped, behead, burying their victim alive, and stabbing babies, women, children by their bayonet. This Nuke is Necessary. It is the solution. It is the answer. Call it karma.

[@johnjecdevera4092]

What goes around, comes around.

[@PronatorTendon]

@@johnjecdevera4092 So then what is our karma for Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, and Afghanistan? Witnessing the decline of our nation within our lifetimes?

[@dhsisidjsisj2633]

The Japanese soldiers deserved it.

[@dhsisidjsisj2633]

There wasn’t that many deaths of innocent souls, and also, you can always reproduce

[@alnka1974]

Sadly the amount of stupid comments here beyond imagination.

[@nodescriptionavailable3842]

This subject sparked my first bout of depression and anxiety as a kid

[@VajrahahaShunyata]

😭

[@elijahjenkins846]

lmaoo

[@stevehammond9156]

Go get some therapy nancy boy.

[@JohnnyVee007]

their ignorance of radiation is astounding

[@flyingtigerline]

Who are 'they'? The film makers? Do you really expect them to have access to scientific data on nuclear weapons? Look at WHEN the film was made.

[@ChesleaGirl92]

Moral of the story…don’t start wars

[@user-qt5eh9wb7g]

Something that always seems to get left out of these conversations is: What would Japan have done with the A bomb if they had it? How about Germany? Would they have used them to win the war on their terms? I think the answer is pretty obvious personally.

[@hampe2424]

How is that relevant? There is nothing that excuses the murder of thousands of innocent humans.

[@hampe2424]

@@R0ZEN7 your inaccurate speculations doesnt excuse the death of children. Whom had nothing to do with the conflict.

[@hampe2424]

@@R0ZEN7 says the one who is speculating with no expertise to back it up. Atleast try to educate yourself before making foolish statements.

[@zaptorzim]

I just see all those answers on the people feeling sad about the civilians. Like, no matter who was at fault, it is still sad.

[@ranro7371]

What'sboutism 🤣😂😏

[@PJDelsandro]

it just skipped over the secret high stakes to say the least transport of the bomb with just a cut of a ship

[@hollygrosshans3529]

What a horrible world and it will remain so until the end. Maranatha.

[@trexkiro9200]

japan had it coming.

[@Ulver27]

@@trexkiro9200 bs

[@Xycomm]

@@Ulver27 look up the rape of Nanking

[@Ulver27]

@@Xycomm And this is an excuse? Really?

[@sameeknowsitall]

Japan attacked the us so it was deserved but a bomb did take it far it could have been a little bit less hardcore

[@thomasfx3190]

Remember Pearl Harbor!

[@StephenLuke]

RIP To the Japanese civilians, soldiers, and some prisoners of war who were killed in the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

[@Jerry_Singh_CISF]

Search nanking massacre by Japanese army

[@Jerry_Singh_CISF]

Japanese army raped killed Chinese civilians 13million Chinese died more than Japanese civilians think about it

[@Jerry_Singh_CISF]

Battan massacre by Japanese in korea

[@Jerry_Singh_CISF]

Pearl Harbor attack

[@saudi6789]

@@Jerry_Singh_CISF trueeeee , USA actually revenged japan for pearl harbor attack , and yeah true the nanking rape was one of the worst alot of Chinese civilians was raped and killed by japan troops , japan killed alot of people from usa , china , south korea , Indonesia and many other countries

[@sunilsamson58]

මියගිය .සියලුම .දෙනාට නිවන් සුවය .ලැබෙිවා

[@skyry101]

And to all the living: Nirvana Nevermind was obtained.

[@jaymudd2817]

Strobe light effect makes it unsafe for me to watch

[@burgersbiblesaeh849]

This blows my mind. If this happened today the whole world would be on fire because everyone would saying " ooooo let's push some buttons and see what happens. " 🤣😒🤔

[@omgrider1339]

Ok

[@Jenkowelten]

If you say this is a war crime, look at what Japan did to China. "You don't show mercy to a merciless enemy"

[@massta1814]

With how china is acting these days would you like Japan to do it again?

[@blubiddyblurp8498]

both can be accused of a war crime, you never find the bad guys on just one side

[@em578578]

They were bombing civilians- they were not to blame for their countries actions, just like every American isn't to blame/on board with what we're doing in the middle east and around the world

[@rileyswack5402]

Nothing justifies what those civilians went through.

[@kevinsuhendra2143]

Yup, I saw on KZbin, it was so cruel at that time that Japan slaughtered Nanking

[@Wrxgirl2021]

Anyone watching this in 2022?

[@Ulver27]

"Because the bomb was exploded high above the ground, the greatest harm of its harmful radioactive material, was dissipated in the stratosphere. As the result, the area under the explosion, was relative free from radioactivity" I love American propaganda

[@hayabusa-iii9282]

100 ft is not to high.

[@Ulver27]

@Heavy Metal God Yeah, that's what the Germans thought too. Didn't end well for them.

[@pennydandelion6139]

Also: “They made no attempt to zone the various types of buildings. Barracks, homes, industrial centers of steel and reinforced concrete, factory buildings of brick construction, all were crowded together with no apparent regard for the safety of the civilian population.”

[@hayabusa-iii9282]

+@@pennydandelion6139 Should have surrendered in 1943 like Italians. Atomic bomb was designed by Jewish refugee Scientists for use against Nazi Germany. If it had not been for Hitler,s Anti-Semitisim Nazi Germany would have had the bomb first. Most likely on V-2 missiles.

[@alexcorrea4828]

No

[@KB-xp6dq]

It's terrible that the bomb was used, but the Japanese were NEVER going to surrender without it. They picked a fight with a big dog without knowing how bad they were going to be bitten in return. The fact that Japan has never been aggressive since speaks volumes. Hopefully, now that everyone knows how awful these bombs are, no one will play "chicken" again 🙏🏼.

[@hellodollyseniorvisitsandd4982]

Unfortunately with certain people in power other countries are going to feel as if we are a week and we are to be tested again because they think this time they will win the game of chicken

[@someguy4512]

""but the Japanese were NEVER going to surrender without it. They picked a fight with a big dog without knowing how bad they were going to be bitten in return. " Lmao, they never surrendered due to the bomb, it was due to the soviets invading them. do no, it wasn't necessary at all, that's just a massive lie to justify to unjustifiable as usual.

[@L._.A-06]

It’s amazing people act like it matters when something is a war crime. Both sides committed war crimes and no one can be blamed. Apologies are nothing more than empty words.

[@VajrahahaShunyata]

Empty words... Violinist playing... Oscar performance for the great ego theatre'... I pontificate ... Therfore signaling my depth of virtue... Man am I good...

[@johnjecdevera4092]

What goes around, comes around

[@douglasskaalrud6865]

Everybody is accountable so nobody is accountable therefore nobody need apologize for anything ever.

[@user-ow4es8ds5z]

"LeMay said if we lost the war that we would have all been prosecuted as war criminals. And I think he's right. He... and I'd say I... were behaving as war criminals. LeMay recognized that what he was doing would be thought immoral if his side has lost. But what makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?" Robert McNamara The former Secretary of Defense under President John F. Kennedy and President Lyndon B. Johnsonon his and Colonel Curtis LeMay's involvement in the bombing of Japan during World War II From the documentary THE FOG OF WAR (2003)

[@waynepatterson5843]

"LeMay said if we lost the war that we would have all been prosecuted as war criminals. And I think he's right. He... and I'd say I... were behaving as war criminals. LeMay recognized that what he was doing would be thought immoral if his side has lost. Wayne Patterson --- LeMay's remark has been taken out of context to reverse his original meaning. LeMay was observing how the opponents would disregard the Laws of War to falsely accuse LeMay and the Americans of committing a war crime despite the fact those Laws of War actually did not prohibit the use of the atomic bombs. محمد علي --- But what makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?" Wayne Patterson --- The American use of the atomic bombs were moral and lawful acts of war in accordance with the Laws of War, regardless of winning or losing. The fact that it was lawful does not prevent people from disregarding the Laws of War to make false accusations of war crimes and false accusations of immorality, win or lose. An American failure to use the atomic bombs to compel Japan's immediate surrender, ending of Japanese crimes against humanity, and ending of the war would have resulted in the loss of upwards of tens of millions more Allied and Japanese lives in the Japanese occupied territories and in Japan. People who falsely accuse the American atomic bomb attacks of being war crimes are incapable of citing a single Law of War which prohibited their use as a war crime. Yet, the Laws of War are very explicit about how the use of such weapons in the circumstances Japan had created were moral and lawful acts of war. Rules of Land Warfare, FM 27-10, 1 October 1940 and 1944 [...] CHAPTER 1 BASIC RULES AND PRINCIPLES [...] 4. Basic principles --- [...] a. The principle of military necessity, under which, subject to the principles of humanity and chivalry, a belligerent is justified in applying any amount and any kind of force to-compel the complete submission of the enemy. with the lea& possible expenditure of time, life, and money; [....] QUALIFICATIONS OF ARMED FORCES OF BELLIGERENTS 8. General division of enemy population.-The enemy population Is divided in war into two general classes, known as the armed forces and the peaceful population. Both classes have distinct rights, duties, and disabilities, and no person can belong to both classes at one and the same time. 19. Status of civilian population.-t is now universally recognized that hostilities are restricted to the armed forces of belligerents. Inhabitants who refrain from acts of hostility and pursue their ordinary vocations must be distinguished from the armed forces of the belligerent;[...] Japanese Supreme Council for the Direction of the War... "The Fundamental Policy To Be Followed Henceforth in the Conduct of the War", 6 June 1945 and reconfirmed on 10 August 1945. [...] With a faith born of eternal loyalty as our inspiration, we shall -- thanks to the advantages of our terrain and the unity of our nation, prosecute the war to the bitter end in order to uphold our national essence, protect the Imperial land and achieve our goals of conquest." The implementation of the policy of conscripting all Japanese people as combatants was demonstrated and proven by General Yoshitsugu Saitō who ordered, "There is no longer any distinction between civilians and troops." Japan was mobilizing all of its people to serve in the Japanese armed forces as combatants, who were subject to being attacked with lethal force when in proximity to military targets such as the Second General Army and Headquarters located in Hiroshima Castle and throughout the city of Hiroshima and the Mitsubishi Arsenals and other war production industries located within Nagasaki. See: There Are No Civilians in Japan Allied military planners faced a bitter truth as they planned for a possible invasion of Japan: there were no distinctions between soldiers and civilians. August 4, 2020 On July 21, 1945, a senior US Army Air Force intelligence officer in the Pacific distributed a report declaring: “The entire population of Japan is a proper Military Target . . . THERE ARE NO CIVILIANS IN JAPAN.” Those seeing this for the first time think it represents hyperbole at best, racist sanction for mass extermination at worst. It was neither. This document does provide a portal to see exactly how the summer of 1945 looked to Americans, particularly those directing or participating in final operations against Japan. www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/there-are-no-civilians-japan

[@HereInPA_Hagen]

The narrator states that the radiation was largely dissipated high into the stratosphere and therefore there was not a great amount of radiation below. This is simply a lie.

[@Demoguy87]

No it's not

[@mikepetersen9887]

I pwildnt want to be any American walking around there

[@stevehammond9156]

At the time we did not know nearly as much about it as we do now. Think on that for a little while and let it sink in.

[@waynepatterson5843]

William Hagen --- The narrator states that the radiation was largely dissipated high into the stratosphere and therefore there was not a great amount of radiation below. This is simply a lie. Wayne Patterson --- Your remark is the lie. Radioactive fallout caused no deaths or injuries among the atomic bomb casualties. The radiation casualties were caused by direct exposure to the radiation emitted by the fission explosion of the atomic bombs and not by radioactive fallout. It should also be observed that the principle causes of death were blast effects, fires, and burns and not exposure to radiation.

[@zaptorzim]

Yeah but most dying in the hospitals were to radiation sickness both from the blast and from drinking the rain. Also not to meantion those getting severe cancer. (This is not me disagreeing but adding to your comment) I reccomend people to watch "BBC Hiroshima 720p HDTV x264 AAC MVGroup org" on youtube tbh. They go into detail about all the different causes of death and what happened. But yeah the radiation from drinking the rain was from the initial blast too, I honestly think that one good thing with this was that it did not stay around, would be very hard to build hiroshima up again if that was the case..

[@glizzyhendrix]

why do I feel like the narrator is a madman lol

[@VajrahahaShunyata]

Amphetamines were a new invention in ww2... This guy is tryin some...

[@coyleigh6640]

Because you sir are a pansies.

[@coyleigh6640]

@@VajrahahaShunyata No they weren't a new invention

[@Kai-ud1sp]

I don't know

[@alexanderelkorek]

I like how the narrator chides Hiroshima's style of zoning as disregarding public safety. Uhhh, ok.

[@Ed-ty1kr]

What he meant was there was no industrial zoning, and most of the weapons parts, including the famous Mitsubishi Zero, were built in small work shops scattered throughout the Nation.

[@waynepatterson5843]

Alexander Elkorek ---- I like how the narrator chides Hiroshima's style of zoning as disregarding public safety. Uhhh, ok. Wayne Patterson ---- See: Law of War Manual...5.16 PROHIBITION ON USING PROTECTED PERSONS AND OBJECTS TO SHIELD, FAVOR, OR IMPEDE MILITARY OPERATIONS...Parties to a conflict may not use the presence or movement of protected persons or objects: (1) to attempt to make certain points or areas immune from seizure or attack; (2) to shield military objectives from attack; or (3) otherwise to shield or favor one’s own military operations or to impede the adversary’s military operations... Although persons and objects that are protected by the law of war may not be used in these ways, this rule does not prohibit a party from using what would otherwise be a civilian object for military purposes and thereby converting it to a military objective that is not protected by the law of war. "Geneva Convention (IV) Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, August 12, 1949Art. 28. The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations." The narrator was making it clear how the Japanese people and government chose to intermix "military objectives" with "the presence or movement of protected persons or objects" in ways that "IMPEDE MILITARY OPERATIONS" as prohibited by the Laws of War. The Japanese Government were given prior warnings to evacuate all non-combatants away from the military objectives which the Japanese chose to locate military objectives and Protected persons and places alongside each other and even within each other's locations. The Japanese Government responded to those warnings by evacuating some of the population while leaving most of the population at the military objectives to serve as combatant soldiers, sailors, Volunteer Corps, and conscripts in the service of the Japanese armies and war industries. You had families assembling weapons of war such as hand grenades on the family's residential kitchen table while the children played in the kitchen. A substantial fraction of those hand grenades were being used for the Japanese people of all ages, sex, and condition to commit voluntary or compulsory suicide rather than surrender to the Americans and Allies. It was estimated that on average about one in every five residential homes were being used as workshops to produce weapons of war and/or parts for weapons of war. These facts and distribution of the war production throughout the residential, commercial, and industrial areas of the urban areas made it a military necessity to attack, destroy, and neutralize all of the places wherein the production of weaponry and war supplies was underway. The lack of zoning laws in the Japanese urban areas created the circumstances under which it became a military necessity to destroy and neutralize the war production located within residential homes and commercial shops.

[@Ed-ty1kr]

@@waynepatterson5843 I see that 1949 was after the end of World War 2, which was 1945, also when the 2 nukes were dropped. But thanks for shareing the info.

[@waynepatterson5843]

@@Ed-ty1kr --- I see that 1949 was after the end of World War 2, which was 1945, also when the 2 nukes were dropped. But thanks for shareing the info. Wayne Patterson --- The Laws of War, also known as the Laws of Armed Conflict (LOAC) began as customary rules of warfare adopted by the belligerent sovereign states and over the centuries and millennia came to be incorporated into the laws of the states and in international agreements. Notable examples include Richard II of England at Durham (1385), by Henry V of England at Mantes (1419), and by Charles VII of France at Orleans (1439), and in Scotland‘s Articles and Ordinances of War for the Present Expedition of the Army of the Kingdom of Scotland (1643). One of the early attempts to take customary laws of war and codify them into military law and regulations and in the positive laws of statutory law was the Lieber Code adopted by the United States of America on 24 April 1863. Example: [Excerpt] General Orders No. 100 : The Lieber Code INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF ARMIES OF THE UNITED STATES IN THE FIELD Art. 19. Commanders, whenever admissible, inform the enemy of their intention to bombard a place, so that the noncombatants, and especially the women and children, may be removed before the bombardment commences. But it is no infraction of the common law of war to omit thus to inform the enemy. Surprise may be a necessity. Art. 20. Public war is a state of armed hostility between sovereign nations or governments. It is a law and requisite of civilized existence that men live in political, continuous societies, forming organized units, called states or nations, whose constituents bear, enjoy, suffer, advance and retrograde together, in peace and in war. Art. 21. The citizen or native of a hostile country is thus an enemy, as one of the constituents of the hostile state or nation, and as such is subjected to the hardships of the war. Art. 22. Nevertheless, as civilization has advanced during the last centuries, so has likewise steadily advanced, especially in war on land, the distinction between the private individual belonging to a hostile country and the hostile country itself, with its men in arms. The principle has been more and more acknowledged that the unarmed citizen is to be spared in person, property, and honor as much as the exigencies of war will admit. Art. 23. Private citizens are no longer murdered, enslaved, or carried off to distant parts, and the inoffensive individual is as little disturbed in his private relations as the commander of the hostile troops can afford to grant in the overruling demands of a vigorous war. Art. 24. The almost universal rule in remote times was, and continues to be with barbarous armies, that the private individual of the hostile country is destined to suffer every privation of liberty and protection, and every disruption of family ties. Protection was, and still is with uncivilized people, the exception. Art. 25. In modern regular wars of the Europeans, and their descendants in other portions of the globe, protection of the inoffensive citizen of the hostile country is the rule; privation and disturbance of private relations are the exceptions. [End of excerpt] The international community expanded upon the Lieber Code with the adoption of the Declaration of St. Petersburg; November 29 1868; Hague Conferences 1899, 1907; and Geneva Conventions 1864, 1928, 1929, 1949, 1975. Customary laws of war were in some cases incorporated into the military customs and regulations of each sovereign state. You can see such in the above in the Lieber Code Article 19. I quoted the "Law of War Manual...5.16 PROHIBITION ON USING PROTECTED PERSONS AND OBJECTS TO SHIELD, FAVOR, OR IMPEDE MILITARY OPERATIONS" which was in effect during World War Two. I also quoted the postwar "Geneva Convention (IV) Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, August 12, 1949 Art. 28. The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations." which incorporated the prior customary laws of war as they were used during World War Two and in earlier centuries. Yes, I included the postwar addition of the customary law of war to the positive law of war represented by the Geneva Conventions in 1949, because I wanted to highlight the enduring importance of that Law of War and provoke attention to its importance in all centuries.

[@SaintNomad]

If Japan didn't start the Pacific War, there would be no nuclear bomb droppings. So don't be sorry for them. Use your energy to pray for the war criminal victims & POWs who were murdered by Japan.

[@urdumboo7657]

Yeah. What about the American sailors died during pearl harbor sneak attack?

[@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse]

Equating the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour with the whole sale vaporisation and incineration of innocent civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki would be funny to someone with a grotesque sense of humour.

[@SuperMoeLarryCurly]

They have been avenged!

[@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse]

@@SuperMoeLarryCurly That's what the Nazis used to say when they would murder all the inhabitants of a village in response to the killing of one of their generals by the resistance - "He has been avenged".

[@SuperMoeLarryCurly]

@@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse #winning

[@Muhmawmehmaw]

Or the rape of Nanking, or unit 731, or the slaughter of 200,000 Philippinos, the attempt to drop bio weapons on the United States and Canada. Etc. Japan is better off now than they have ever been and it's because the allies forced the unconditional surrender and saved 12 million Japanese civilians from being bullet sponges for their cowardly and delusional government. The bombings were justified, the deaths were and still are the complete fault of the Japanese government. Period.

[@drstevenrey]

Good idea to go and check all the damage. The men who did that, had their balls for dinner just before they died in agony a few weeks later. Job done.

[@nomibe2911]

Huh?

[@plumber1192]

what?

[@rileyswack5402]

Nigga what

[@Jon-cj7qt]

@@rileyswack5402 Radiation sickness

[@sumbeech1484]

@@rileyswack5402 The "N" word rears it ugly head !!! Oh my ..............

[@clebbsy]

USA used their ULT to end Japan's long time killing streak. If this didn't happen, I wonder what could've become?

[@Night_Rider4570]

Nothing good. Japan was pretty merciless.

[@arama1082]

What a stupid comment from an idiot person by killing innocent people has nothing with this war!!

[@Night_Rider4570]

@@arama1082 🤣🤣🤣

[@ofuckingkay617]

@@arama1082 i think you missed the point. Of course it's awful, but if it didnt happen, Japan wouldn't have surrendered, would have sent more men to kill and die, would've let civilians starve even more due to war state and the US would have invaded. You can't stop a war by handing over flowers, this isn't the world we live in.

[@davidsilverfield835]

Yup

[@topgunsnake720]

See, July 16th, 1945 the United States had the first atomic bomb dropped on it. Japan received the second and third bombs.

[@johno9507]

The first bomb wasn't dropped, it was exploded from a tower.

[@bumbum3023]

@@johno9507 yup

[@brianbelton3605]

Just asking, very innocently, in hind-sight: Please explain the human torture, which pales to that of Nazi Germany, of Japans Unit 731, in Japan occupied Manchuria. Answer honestly, please

[@mikepetersen9887]

Fat man and little boy is the answer.

[@booklover6753]

Simple racial hatred and bloodlust. They considered themselves to be racially superior to all adversaries.

[@zubetp]

could you clarify your question? are you asking for justification of the US's actions, or are you asking why we should consider it on par with the other atrocities you named?

[@zaptorzim]

I do not think the torture the japanese have done, make it okay to disrespect all those innocent people in hiroshima that did not take any part in that and died suffering days and years later. Nothing was okay, but that does not make it okay to say the civilians deserved it. The leaders of japan definetely were evil and had this coming. The innocent people didn't so we should not act as if it was not a sad event even though it pushed them to surrender

[@AuRowe]

@@zaptorzimI hate all war but did Japan do pearl harbor? If they had nukes at that time how would Hinolulu look today?

[@garryfitzgerald6233]

America used Nagasaki & Hiroshima as a necular bomb test site, imagine that!

[@mikerotchburns3656]

Japan deserved it

[@garryfitzgerald6233]

@@mikerotchburns3656 You don't sound right in the head sir, what you said is truly evil. You don't sound sane..bye!

[@mikerotchburns3656]

@@garryfitzgerald6233 sir...japan deserved everything it got in that war...its what they asked for....not saying the innocent civilians did...the empire of japan who ordered the attack on pearl harbor and multiple other attacks on americans and others deserved it

[@garryfitzgerald6233]

@@mikerotchburns3656 USA & UK inflicted 97 billion times more evil on the world then Japan. So who are you to throw the first stone? Have a nice day!

[@theundefeatedavatar1738]

@@garryfitzgerald6233 they drop the bomb first than the USA use that moment as an experiment and to show off power to Russia

[@drstevenrey]

What is German priest doing in Japan?

[@williamwong8781]

He seem to be reading off a script too.

[@TheExplosiveGuy]

Missionaries probably.

[@paralaxeful1]

They were Jesuits.

[@Gaybraham.Lincoln]

What's a German me doing ruling Britain?

[@Gaybraham.Lincoln]

Oops sorry. Wrong number

[@joeavery3873]

Ya buy your ticket,,, Ya take the ride.

[@SuperMoeLarryCurly]

Ya go to the buffet.. Ya get all you can eat!

[@shanemcguire9980]

The FAKE explosion sound sounds like someone ripping a piece of tape from a stubborn roll of clear packing tape...😂🤣🤣 Or.. someone ripping a huge chili fart.

[@orangescout1967]

None immediately died? More like 80,000 died in less than a second with another 60,000 dying anywhere from 1 day after to present day. The statement you made is absurd…in fact, it is the most deadly second in the history of mankind for immediate death.

[@sarah6557]

Volume is absolutely crap

[@HeresTheGenZFlorentineFolks.]

War

[@jroc_5856]

At 25:25 there are some ufo’s

[@anton_c8gur]

MY GODDDD!!!!!!! MY RIGHT EAR!!!!!!!! AAAAHHHHHHH

[@marleneassennato7197]

Two wrongs never make a right.😢

[@curtlindberg2621]

This film makes No Comments on human life lost in the attacks. Only the buildings destroyed. Messed up, but what do you expect?

[@bmedhi1592]

Absolute EVIL And that priest..yuck.

[@Ed-ty1kr]

Not for nothing but the incendiary fire bombing was far more effective.. meaning destructive, and killed far more people each time it was implimented. But it did require large numbers of bombers and lots of bombs to accomplish, vs one bomb and one bomber. But considering that the U.S. at the time of this only had 3 bombs, one was tested in New Mexico, one on Hiroshima, and one on Nagasaki... we were technically all out of nukes.

[@lennardchurch8483]

The firebombings were more destructive, but less effective. Firebombings couldn't make Japan surrender, but the unstoppable fury of the sun landing on them did.

[@matposton87]

Actually we had 4 nukes to start with. One test weapon plus three combat ready bombs. So the Trinity test weapon, then the one dropped on Hiroshima(Little Boy), the one dropped on Nagasaki (fat man), and one more Mk3 implosion bomb just like the Fat Man bomb. The third combat ready bomb was also gonna be dropped on Japan if they didnt surrender after Nagasaki, but once Japan surrendered the last bomb was shipped back to Los Alamos. Shortly thereafter nuclear scientists at Los Alamos started doing criticality experiments on the plutonium core of the last bomb, in less than a year there were 2 criticality accidents resulting in lethal doses of radiation for 2 scientists, plus several more getting radiation sickness. They ended up naming that plutonium core "The Demon Core" and it was later melted down with other plutonium to go into new bombs. But still a crazy story, you can find several videos about it on KZbin

[@Ed-ty1kr]

Since we are now getting into speculation, some say it was actually the Soviet Unions declaration of war on Japan that caused the surrender. And the demon core from what I understood was never shipped anywhere from Los Alamos, and remained for further criticality experimentation. Which is how and why scientists got lethal doses, because they kept "tickleing the tail of the dragon" by use of neutron reflectors and a flat head screw driver, that ultimately caused a chain reaction to occur. But as to if we had a nuke actually ready to be dropped or not, may have very well been a scare tactic so as to assure that the enemies knew we were at all times ready to deploy a weapon. Spying was already suspected, the Russians had interests in Europe, they wanted to hold the Russians at Berlin and wanted to assure they stay put without pushing ahead against the Allies. These fears were very real, and if word got out that the U.S. had spent every single nuke in its arsenal, it was quite possible that the Soviets would grab up more of Germany. And although the Germans were conqered, Nazies still kept fighting elsewhere like Hungary, which the Russians could have used to keep pushing onward takeing more of Europe. This became evident post WW2 during the Berlin air lift and the Berlin wall... they wanted all of Germany, the U.S. in alot of ways stole the glory of taking Germany from Stalin. And keep in mind not only did alot of Russia get taken over by the Germans in 1942, it was the Russians who ultimately gave more human lives than all other nations combined. It was a sore subject, and Stalin obviously had Los Alamos crawling with spies, so they knew the U.S. was out of plutonium and uranium 235 for the most part. Washington needed at least the impression there was always just one more available. But who knows if we actually had a bomb or not, we had a plutonium core, we know that much for sure. I just find the whole story of 'The evil demon core' that needs to melted down... a bit, odd. But who knows, maybe nuclear scientists are supersticious after all.

[@zaptorzim]

@@lennardchurch8483 not to mention those suffering from cancer long after, and melting even though they survived at first. True horror really was more effective even though I feel sad for all those civilians suffering through adulthood from cancer and horror etc :/

[@kricketlangendoerfer8387]

& we still threaten each other w these toys. US, N Korea, Russia.... Imagine also, germs weren't thought about back then. Not even face masks. How many died from contamination? 😿😿

[@pavelmadle7065]

Ak235-12/34

[@sruti_craft_opedia6984]

Is it the real video ?

[@theundefeatedavatar1738]

I mean it’s black and white, plus don’t you here the old time narrator

[@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse]

Japan was indeed trying to surrender. How do we know? The US was interpreting all Japanese coded messages and deciphering them, and Truman knew that unconditional surrender was the main obstacle to Japan' peace party (Japan wanted guarantees the emperor system and Chrysanthemum throne would remain intact). British Prime minister Winston Churchill urged Truman to relent and allow the the Japanese to surrender, keeping their Emperor system and their honour intact. But it was no go. When Truman took the reigns, US pronouncements on the subject did not deviate from the unconditional surrender formula and were purposefully vague

[@waynepatterson5843]

@Black Tengu 天狗, --- That's correct, Japan was indeed trying to surrender. How do we know? The US was interpreting all Japanese coded messages and deciphering them, and Truman knew that unconditional surrender was the main obstacle to Japan' peace party (Japan wanted guarantees the emperor system and Chrysanthemum throne would remain intact). Wayne Patterson --- That is another of your half truths (or less) which you use to misrepresent the reality and make a lie. The War Faction of the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War never tried to surrender at any time right up until Emperor Hirohito finally ordered them to accept the Allied surrender terms with no further delays or excuses. Instead, the War Faction always planned to end the war with an armistice agreement and never with a Japanese surrender. When Japan began their June 1940 planning to start their "Pacific War" against the Allies in 1941-1942, they planned to capture as much territory as possible and then make the Allied recapture of the Allied territories to expensive in lives and treasure to pursue. The war was to be ended with an armistice agreement in which the Allies would cede the Allied territories to Japan and become Japanese possessions. The War faction continued to insist upon retaining those same armistice agreement objectives to the maximum extent possible even after it had become obvious in 1944-1945 that Japan had no means of winning the war. Even in the last days the War Faction insisted upon not only the retention of the Emperor system and powers but also the overseas occupied territories, no occupation of Japan, and the trial of Japanese war criminals by the Japanese government. There was no way that the Allies would allow Japan to substitute a negotiated armistice for a Japanese surrender, because the Allied governments were never going to allow the war criminals in the Japanese military government another opportunity to wage war upon the International community with biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction that had already killed a half million people in China and threatened to kill more in the other Allied nations. The Allies would also never allow Japan to substitute a negotiated armistice for a Japanese surrender, because the Allied governments were never going to allow the war criminals in the Japanese military government another opportunity to complete their research to produce atomic bombs and nuclear weapons of mass destruction. Japan started their atomic bomb research long before the Americans did so, and the Allies were not going to allow the war criminals in the Japanese military government an opportunity to possess and use such nuclear weapons. In the end, only the Peace Faction and Emperor Hirohito were ultimately willing to surrender Japan to the Americans and the Allies, while the War Faction only involuntarily obeyed the Emperor's orders to accept the surrender terms on 14-15 August 1945.

[@MikeSmith-cn6ub]

Wrong again Churchill never said that. And yea we were only going to except unconditional surrender. The jaos mote than the Germans were our enemy because the japs bombed us Germany didnt. So yea unconditional surrender or nothing especially at that point. Do you thi k if your japs would have had us beat they would have taken anything other than our unconditional surrender????

[@mischievousmoonshine]

We should do this to Russia

[@MikeSmith-cn6ub]

I'm in let's go

[@gabrielv.4358]

Wow

[@kingsukghatak1184]

This is real vedio pf bomb blast??

[@Sahasraksh.]

Audio of the blast wasnt captured I think

[@mastergunj7514]

What is a war crime? War has no rules. This aint a game of chess. Look at Putin now !

[@SuperMoeLarryCurly]

a war crime is something the losing side gets penalized with.

[@mithrilsilver575]

Patriots!

[@driverwolf4482]

Steelers!

[@cindycrawford9790]

@@driverwolf4482 BEST comment! can't believe you made me laugh so hard!!

[@SuperMoeLarryCurly]

Hiroshima has left the chat

[@danihutama4113]

Indonesia - India

[@Sahasraksh.]

?

[@omgrider1339]

Ok

[@singwithmebhumika5089]

any indian here

[@ishandwivedi1602]

Ofcourse 🙏

[@claytonbigsby423]

Japan was trying to surrender prior to this evil.. civilians should always be off limits.. Germany, United states, Russia, and yes even Japan all committed horrible atrocities against humanity..Civilization will never learn

[@waynepatterson5843]

Clayton Bigsby ---- Japan was trying to surrender prior to this evil.. Wayne Patterson ---- Your statement is utterly false. The dominant War Faction of the Japanese Supreme Council for the Direction of the War explicitly rejected all proposals by the Peace Faction to end the war with an acceptance of the Allied terms of surrender. The Imperial Japanese Army never voluntarily accepted the Allied surrender terms and had to be ordered by Emperor Hirohito to surrender. Japanese Supreme Council for the Direction of the War adopted "The Fundamental Policy To Be Followed Henceforth in the Conduct of the War", on 6 June 1945 and reconfirmed the policy rather than surrender on 10 August 1945. [...] "With a faith born of eternal loyalty as our inspiration, we shall -- thanks to the advantages of our terrain and the unity of our nation, prosecute the war to the bitter end in order to uphold our national essence, protect the Imperial land and achieve our goals of conquest." The Americans read the secret Japanese diplomatic cable messages that revealed how the Supreme Council adamantly rejected all proposals to surrender, insisted upon a favorable armistice instead of a surrender, and found endless excuses to not honor Emperor Hirohito's instructions to promptly end the war. So, the people who actually controlled Japan's military government never tried to surrender and had to be ordered by the Emperor to surrender. Clayton Bigsby --- civilians should always be off limits.. Wayne Patterson ---- The people injured and killed by the atomic bombs and the other air bombardments were combatants and not the "civilians" you falsely claim to have been killed. The air bombardments attacked military objectives and combatants who participated in the hostilities as members of Japan's armed forces. Under the Laws of War civilians cannot be used to impede enemy attacks against military objectives. After the Americans used leaflets and radio broadcasts from Radio Saipan KSAI to warn the Japanese people about impending air bombardments of military objectives and the need to evacuate the military objectives to places of safety in the rural communities, the Japanese government evacuated about 8.5 million people. They also evacuated about 85 percent of the urban schoolchildren. The population remaining at the military objectives in the urban centers were members of the Japanese armed forces, war workers, and schoolchildren who served as combatants and participants in the hostilities regardless of sex and age. Every person who was injured and killed by the air bombardments made a choice to remain with the military objectives and participate in the hostilities despite knowing those military objectives would sooner or later be attacked with air bombardments that could injure and kill them. The American use of the atomic bombs were lawful acts of war against Japanese combatants and not against "civilians" as you falsely accuse.

[@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse]

That's correct, Japan was indeed trying to surrender. How do we know? The US was interpreting all Japanese coded messages and deciphering them, and Truman knew that unconditional surrender was the main obstacle to Japan' peace party (Japan wanted guarantees the emperor system and Chrysanthemum throne would remain intact). British Prime minister Winston Churchill urged Truman to relent and allow the the Japanese to surrender, keeping their Emperor system and their honour intact. But it was no go. When Truman took the reigns, US pronouncements on the subject did not deviate from the unconditional surrender formula and were purposefully vague

[@waynepatterson5843]

@@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse --- That's correct, Japan was indeed trying to surrender. How do we know? The US was interpreting all Japanese coded messages and deciphering them, and Truman knew that unconditional surrender was the main obstacle to Japan' peace party (Japan wanted guarantees the emperor system and Chrysanthemum throne would remain intact). Wayne Patterson --- That is another of your half truths (or less) which you use to misrepresent the reality and make a lie. The War Faction of the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War never tried to surrender at any time right up until Emperor Hirohito finally ordered them to accept the Allied surrender terms with no further delays or excuses. Instead, the War Faction always planned to end the war with an armistice agreement and never with a Japanese surrender. When Japan began their June 1940 planning to start their "Pacific War" against the Allies in 1941-1942, they planned to capture as much territory as possible and then make the Allied recapture of the Allied territories to expensive in lives and treasure to pursue. The war was to be ended with an armistice agreement in which the Allies would cede the Allied territories to Japan and become Japanese possessions. The War faction continued to insist upon retaining those same armistice agreement objectives to the maximum extent possible even after it had become obvious in 1944-1945 that Japan had no means of winning the war. Even in the last days the War Faction insisted upon not only the retention of the Emperor system and powers but also the overseas occupied territories, no occupation of Japan, and the trial of Japanese war criminals by the Japanese government. There was no way that the Allies would allow Japan to substitute a negotiated armistice for a Japanese surrender, because the Allied governments were never going to allow the war criminals in the Japanese military government another opportunity to wage war upon the International community with biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction that had already killed a half million people in China and threatened to kill more in the other Allied nations. The Allies would also never allow Japan to substitute a negotiated armistice for a Japanese surrender, because the Allied governments were never going to allow the war criminals in the Japanese military government another opportunity to complete their research to produce atomic bombs and nuclear weapons of mass destruction. Japan started their atomic bomb research long before the Americans did so, and the Allies were not going to allow the war criminals in the Japanese military government an opportunity to possess and use such nuclear weapons. In the end, only the Peace Faction and Emperor Hirohito were ultimately willing to surrender Japan to the Americans and the Allies, while the War Faction only involuntarily obeyed the Emperor's orders to accept the surrender terms on 14-15 August 1945.

[@yoohoodawg4607]

America sent out multiple warnings and flyers before hand-

[@clemusicando]

Que humilhação né ? Poderiam ter se rendido antes e evitar essa "tragédia "

[@zebdoz333]

Well perhaps the Japanese shouldn’t have started what they started huh?

[@jimmysouth600]

How were the streets cleared so quickly?

[@ripbambi]

Everything carbon based literally disintegrated. There were human shaped shadows left imprinted from the sheer intensity of the light and heat

[@jimmysouth600]

@@ripbambi That's what we are told. The roads Should have been covered with debris. I see debris everywhere except on the roads. They actually showed these types of videos at school when I was growing up in the 60's and 70's. I asked the same question to my elementary teachers. I never got a straight answer. Whenever I asked questions about things like gravity, the sun, the moon, space, etc. etc. I never got a clear or precise answer. I was once told by a teacher that if someone spit off the Empire State Building that it would kill someone if it landed on their head. I asked " Doesn't rain come from higher altitudes than that. I received a detention for asking that question. Usually the answer I got Was "Jimmy, that's just how everything works." Needless to say I'm still asking questions, and I usually get the same answer that I received when I was a young lad all those years ago. Thank you for your kind reply.

[@bruhism173]

@@jimmysouth600 das some bs, I once asked why planes were invented before helicopters no even to the teacher and I get in trouble, or questioning anything at all.

[@icouldusemorecoffee]

Lots of things not quite right about the footage for sure

[@changedpace9169]

@@jimmysouth600 my guess is that since the Americans came in and we’re getting pictures they had the roads cleared at that point. They could have literally came through with a tractor and just shoved it all to the side

[@ssbro7484]

i am very sad it was very .........................scared me but ithink i am very ...........................sad

[@NissanEstee]

Why for hell?!

[@MrOkvok]

бездушные твари... сбросить бомбу ночью на спящие семьи, с детьми, с женщинами! Будьте вы прокляты!!! По закону кармы, бумерангом вам это аукнется, непременно.

[@MikeSmith-cn6ub]

Well cone on I'm waiting viselly cone get some mutt

[@caseylayton4898]

Never forget Pearl Harbor 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@gobiggreen1811]

A video of zero point manhattan in the future will be the best entertainment ever made.

[@MikeSmith-cn6ub]

Lol come get some mutt

[@36thmonkk]

The bomb should not exist.

[@tboman4128]

But it does.

[@dreamhobbiz]

It would have existed one way or another. Japan just happened to be a convenient target as a test subject. The military's refusal to surrender just signed their civilians death warrants.

[@flickablebean582]

Produced by the US army. No this won't be biased at all...

[@Seoul_Korea_]

범 Bomb 내려온다.

[@tahirafxtrader9422]

Very sad

[@adamhoward6784]

Remember 1thing; Japan attacked the USA without warning first*

[@gabrielv.4358]

This is just so insane it almost looks like thanos snapped people there, disappearing in a split second.....

[@MrRider117]

Stopping a war?..No it's just a test ground.. result and data

[@waynepatterson5843]

MrRider117 --- Stopping a war?..No it's just a test ground.. result and data Wayne Patterson --- The American use of the atomic bombs were lawful acts of war which caused the Japanese to surrender and saved tens of millions of Allied and Japanese lives. You're just parroting false propaganda.

[@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse]

@@waynepatterson5843 You are deluded, 1) The use of the Atomic bombs had nothing to do with Japans war crimes in the far east, but was used because of domestic political concerns and 2) this figure of millions being saved which is canonical among those justifying the bombings is not supported since military estimations at the time by the US Joint war Plans committee predicted that the invasion of Japan would result in 193,000 casualties including 40,000 deaths.

[@waynepatterson5843]

@@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse ​ --- You are deluded, 1) The use of the Atomic bombs had nothing to do with Japans war crimes in the far east, Wayne Patterson --- Your remarks are more of your typical lies. "The use of the Atomic bombs" motivated Emperor Hirohito to rescind the earlier or of the Imperial General Headquarters to covertly murder all remaining ~123,000 Allied prisoners of war, Allied civilian internees, Neutral civilian internees, men, women, children, priests, nuns, ministers, physicians, surgeons, nurses, and other noncombatants. The women and children were to be burned alive in their shelters or killed with poisoned rice. The prisoners of war were to be variously burned alive with gasoline and/or shot in the air raid trenches; beheaded, or bayoneted and/or shot. The Japanese had already executed those orders in places such as Wake Island, Panay, and Sumatra; and the others were to be murdered and their ashes and corpses destroyed and hidden beginning on about 20 August 1945 and September 1945 in other locations. After the atomic bombs Emperor Hirohito had to dispatch members of the Royal Family to the major Japanese headquarters throughout the Far East to enforce the Emperor's orders to not continue those mass murders and war crimes. So, you lied. The Atomic bombs also forced Japan to stop the mass murders and mass killings of people in China during the 1945 OPERATION ICHI-GO, which was Japan's largest military offensive in the Second World War. So, you lied. The atomic bombs resulted in the war ending in August-September 1945, which saved millions of Allied lives from further famine deaths by allowing the delivery of food to the populations in Allied territories under Japanese occupation and in British India. So, you lied. There are countless more instances in which the use of the atomic bombs stopped the continuation of Japanese war crimes in the Far East. Black Tengu 天狗, --- but was used because of domestic political concerns and Wayne Patterson --- You are using a logical fallacy, because all decisions with respect to choices of weaponry, strategies, and tactics are due in lesser part as "domestic political concerns" along with the vital and more important international concerns. Black Tengu 天狗, --- 2) this figure of millions being saved which is canonical among those justifying the bombings is not supported since military estimations at the time by the US Joint war Plans committee predicted that the invasion of Japan would result in 193,000 casualties including 40,000 deaths. Wayne Patterson --- You're lying again by using another small truth to misrepresent the full truth and deceive the readers with the lie of a false conclusion. The lives saved by the use of the atomic bombs reaches the tens of millions of lives without even taking in consideration the very much larger number of lives saved among the U.S. Armed Forces which you mention. We know the Japanese Imperial General Headquarters was definitely going to murder ~123,000 Allied prisoners of war, Neutral internees, noncombatant men, women, children, priests, nuns, ministers, physicians, surgeons, and others beginning on 20 August 1945 and earlier in occupied territories invaded by the Allies. After the atomic bombs Emperor Hirohito sent members of the Royal Family to rescind the orders to murder those ~123,000 noncombatant captives. We also know that the number of Japanese killed and who committed suicide in the Battle of Saipan and Okinawa ranged from 88 percent to 99 percent of the populations. It is not difficult to apply those percentages to the ~90 million people in Japan to see how there was a high probability that a continuation of the war without the use of the atomic bombs would result in tens of millions of Japanese deaths alone. Also, it is inescapable and obvious to note how the historical postwar famines in the Allied territories occupied by the Japanese resulted in millions of deaths and could only have resulted in millions of more such deaths if the war had continued for more months in 1945 or into 1946. Using the Battle of Okinawa as an example, the Americans lost about 1 combatant killed for each 9 Japanese and Okinawan combatants who were killed. The percentage of the Japanese and Okinawan combatants killed from the total number of combatants is about 92 percent. The Japanese operation KETSU-GO plans for Japan's Home Islands planned to have Imperial Japanese Army troops numbering 2,372,700 and 1,962,800 Imperial Japanese naval troops serving as naval and ground forces for a total of 4,335,500 regular troops available for operations in Japan's Home Islands. Added to the 4,335,500 regular troops were the 28,000,000 million troops of the Volunteer Corps with a combined total of 32,335,500. By June 1945 the Japanese Government published propaganda titled as "The Glorious Death of One Hundred Million" campaign which said that it was "glorious to die for the holy emperor of Japan, and every Japanese man, woman, and child should die for the Emperor when the Allies arrived." So, the actual number of combatants included "every Japanese man, woman, and child" in Japan's Home Islands. If it can be assumed that the 1:9 ratio of American to Japanese deaths or anywhere near that ratio of deaths remained valid in OPERATION DOWNFALL, the potential American and Allied deaths would have ranged from about 449,000 against the 4.3 million regular Imperial Japanese Army and regular Imperial Japanese Navy troops and up to 3.3 million American and Allied troop deaths versus the combination of the 4.3 million regular Imperial Japanese Army and regular Imperial Japanese Navy troops plus the 28 million troops of the Volunteer Corps. Now it was simply not possible for the American and Allied invasion forces to incur 3.3 million troop deaths, because their troops strength was only 1.9 million troops with very little still in reserve elsewhere in the world. If you added the entire remaining population of Japan as combatants in accordance with "The Glorious Death of One Hundred Million" campaign and the actual Battle of Okinawa loss ratio, the potential American and Allied eaths looks like upwards of 10 million American and Allied deaths, which is nearly five times the actual number of American and Allied troops in the invasion forces, an impossibility. It was because of these types of numbers that gave the War Faction in the Imperial Japanese Army and the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War reason to aspire for a favorable armistice agreement by making the American and Allied invasion casualties too prohibitive to continue the invasion. It was also because of the atomic bombs that this loss ration equation favoring a last ditch Japanese resistance was blown to smithereens and the War Faction's plans were made useless. Emperor Hirohito then saw his opportunity to confront the War Faction with the hopelessness of their plans to use attrition against the Allied invasions. Estimates of the lives saved by the atomic bombs which number in the tens of millions are well supported by the loss ratios actually experienced in the Battle of Saipan and the Battle of Okinawa and by the ongoing losses of Allied lives throughout the territories occupied by another 5 million Japanese troops overseas.

[@anonymous2513456]

to be fair, the Japanese government and military had this coming to them. It's a shame that in a total war scenario, civilians are targeted as well but there was no other way. Many, many times more people would have died on all sides had the Japanese not surrendered and they would not have surrendered if the power of these bombs had not been demonstrated, twice, before them. The allies had been fire bombing Japanese cities for months prior to this causing terrible casualties and devastation, they were on their knee's and still they would not surrender. A land invasion was the only other option to prevent the terrible cruelty of the Japanese empire from venturing back out into the world again and so these bombs actually saved millions of lives on all sides.

[@nyctophile1000]

That's America the real terrorist on the earth

[@VajrahahaShunyata]

We rebuilt Japan and put our bombs on the shelf. If we wanted too we could have conquered earth at that moment. We didn't. Cry and whine some more.

[@dropdead6969]

@@nyctophile1000 yes America should have let fascist imperial Japan slaughter their way thru Asia.... Jesus christ dude go look up what Japan did to Nanking in ww2. Histories brutal and complicated

[@earthexplorer579]

why didnt they put it on Germany?

[@dropdead6969]

@@earthexplorer579 Germany surrendered. Everyone surrendered except Japan. Japan was ready to fight until they had no soldiers left

[@ambilisurabhisuresh5729]

ഗെയിൽ ബോംബ് വർഷിച്ച വിമാനത്തിൻറെ പേര്

[@saudi6789]

Filipino?

[@bearschmidt3180]

Kissed by the SUN 🌄

[@ronduck2812]

Cooked like a cheep hotdog⁰ no

[@officialgouravkumargoyal]

😭😭😭

[@Hammer_Down815]

'KARMA'

[@nerdynate]

For one this comment section is a mess LOL But, to be entirely fair to the US and to Japan here, it's really, really sad to see this happen, but they did have ample warning beforehand, so it was sort of the Japanese government's own fault for not preventing this from happening, granted they didn't know the extent of the damage and what was gonna happen. About America not paying for its "war crimes," if you'd like to call it that, we technically did but not directly. Not only did we completely rebuild everything that was gone, but we got them out from under the imperial foot and completely restructured their economy, and now look at where they are because they took that ball and ran with it. So yes, we didn't directly give them money, or some other payment, but we did help completely rebuild them from the ground up politically, economically, and physically with the cities and everything else that was destroyed in the war. The citizen's lives lost are incredibly sad, and by no means did they deserve that. This is what happens in war, though, and because of their losses, Japan now has the third strongest economy in the world and is comparatively miles freer than they have been throughout all of history. So, a war crime or not, the US certainly helped Japan get to a better place than where it was, because of how much destruction and death this war, and those bombings caused.

[@dianthis]

Yes. I agree. Speaking elementary and totally understating, war is a big mess for everyone involved. It should never happen and when it does there’s always finger pointing. All those responsible should accept fault and work things out but that never seems to happen. Does it? I won’t try to add anymore to what you said as it basically echos my view.

[@bmedhi1592]

Cringe

[@nerdynate]

@@bmedhi1592 Cringe

[@zaptorzim]

exactly. But people here act is if it was the civilians fault. I am glad atleast ONE person can say that it was the governments fault, that they deserved it and not act as if the civilians did.. Someone said that they learned to fight with sticks so they deserved it and I am like.. ok so they learned what to do if they were attacked on the ground.. they would still not be able to influense and end the war 😅 The civilians did not deserve it and the japanese government could have prevented it if they were not so stubborn. :/

[@zaptorzim]

Like, it is okay to feel sad for them and understanding that it was needed due to how japan refused to surrender. One thing I feel was sad as well was the expermint on those that surveved and the after effects. But now we know what can happen, and now they seem to have a good relation now. So even though it was tragic, them being allies now is a good thing

[@dif8543]

The people in the city might of died yes they where enemies but there were also innocent people in the city that had nothing to be involved with the war crimes Japan committed

[@shadowbacon6497]

It's so sad😭

[@Jerry_Singh_CISF]

Japanese Army was Brutal during ww2 They invade china Korea kill rape civillian

[@Jerry_Singh_CISF]

Japan deserve 10 atom bomb search Nanking massacre in China 1937

[@starchild1198]

Happy Victory Day!!!

[@KidIcarus26]

happy? many people died idiot

[@anamarroquin8520]

Que feo ,pobre gente

[@Leonlldas]

USA will be #1 Forever,can you imagine what kind of Nukes we have today in 2021 Holy shit I wouldn’t even want to know GG

[@ralphbernhard1757]

The USAs "American Century" is coming to an end. It had a favorable geographical advantage as the British Empire started collapsing after WW2. That's over though...

[@Leonlldas]

@@ralphbernhard1757 if your not from America the. Please I would love to see your country try and attack us. And see what happens 🤣😂🤣😂😅😅💣

[@JapanMonAmourTheJapanHouse]

@@Leonlldas Well Japan came close to beating America in the second world war.

[@asphcon1]

@@Leonlldas With the idiot we have in office now, I'm not sure we'd fair all that well.

[@19_dedgorl]

there should really be a minimum age requirement on youtube

[@bennuballbags2]

The end of WW2, it had to happen for Japan was never going to give up and damned if the allies was going to land in Japan and how many more countless thousands would have died, Its terrible but it had to happen. The allies negotiated thoroughly and after the Hiroshima they offered them to surrender but they wouldn't. May this never happen again though, brings me to tears thinking about the suffering that came out of this. The lucky ones died....the unlucky ones suffered till they died,

[@zaptorzim]

indeed. My issue in this comment section is that most know it was needed, but people comment on those feeling sad for the innocent that they deserved it when they didn't. It helped ending the war but none deserved that. The leaders are to blame of course. But I can not believe how some of these people here can not see how disrespectful it is to say that they saw it coming when the ones that did were the military etc. (Note that I am not attacking you but am glad that you actually know who was to blame, and care for the victims.

[@artirony410]

Hi, I am a history MA student and a large part of my MA thesis concerns the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This idea that Japan was never going to give up before the atomic bombs were dropped has been debunked over and over by virtually every credible historian on the topic. Hope this helps.

[@costicacaracaleanu3534]

Gluma ceasul acela a sosit kristos

[@ant7699]

Flashing film

[@evabartlett4599]

It's old AF. Be glad it exists at all.

[@jacob1423]

@@evabartlett4599 fr

[@josephjoestar5221]

@@evabartlett4599 r/woooosh

[@josephjoestar5221]

@@jacob1423 r/woooosh

[@evabartlett4599]

@@josephjoestar5221 you sound like a child.

[@packwrld3026]

0p😊

[@justdont2019]

Perhaps they should have stopped trying to conquer the world, not have bombed Pearl Harbor, and never tortured our soldiers. This world has lost the ability to recognize and call out enemies who want to torture and kill them. Now they want an “apology”. Perhaps they have lost their sense of remorse and need a reminder.

[@dreamhobbiz]

An apology 20 or 30 years down the road is pointless, because the very people who CAUSED the war to happen have all died. Asking the descendants of those bastards to apologise would be meaningless. No amount of apologies and monetary compensation will ever bring back the dead. Its all lip service. Japan cannot undo its history, nor can it repay what its war hungry ancestors took.

[@gabrielv.4358]

Insanity!

[@ANYA.RIZALI]

meow

[@mannellosebastien4555]

Most continents hope for the day of revenge. Love-Love !

[@MikeSmith-cn6ub]

Cone get some mutt

[@Oscar-xs9cv]

War crime.

[@Smeowtime]

Let’s do it again

[@evabartlett4599]

Wrong

[@jacob1423]

i would have dropped one in tokyo too, kill em all, they didn’t get it enough for what they did to pearl harbour

[@theguyinthechair8254]

@@jacob1423 bro Pearl Harbor was a military instillation

[@LunarWrens145]

@@jacob1423 lel brainwashed

[@Pity93925]

Shame on u america u were always the destroyer bt act like a savior..

[@cyanoticspore6785]

@@Woad_Brah these bombs alone killed hundreds of thousands. Then there's things like Dresden. I'm not saying that excuses the Japanese, but the allies killed civilians too, though much of it was collateral damage.

[@Pity93925]

@@Woad_Brah yet American's list still goes on until today. Funding here and there and ask the country to bomb another country.

[@deemika]

Wake up and learn about the past world before you make your ignorant comments. ALL Japan citizens were training to fight with sticks if the Allies attacked on the ground in Japan. Japan was warned about this but REFUSED to surrender.

[@dreamhobbiz]

USA are not the only assholes in the world. Almost every Western and European nation has its fair share of mindless destruction, either through offensive attacks or self defence. Regardless of who was right or wrong, the moment an attack begins, everyone has to pay the price, whether they like it or not.