The Electric Vehicle Charger that PAYS YOU! Sevadis MaxiCharger

[@artisanelectrics]

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[@roscopeco2000]

I'd recommend using a hex socket on those screws rather than the PZ bit. You get much more torque without chewing up

[@dgmclar]

Or you could use the correct bit instead of butchering a hex bit ...

[@roscopeco2000]

@@dgmclar what you mean it has a hex on the outside just for that purpose??

[@alexwaslin1541]

Quality is fine, it looks to be stainless steel and hence softer. Agree hex socket all the way!

[@Swe3ets]

or you toss their fixings in the garbage where they belong and use your own

[@blobstrom]

I would always use a hex bit. Same goes for jubilee hose clips 7mm hex driver rather then a flat head screw driver

[@therealdojj]

worst bollard crash was about 27 or so years ago when i reversed a bus into the bollards in kingston bus station overflow park, and then it wouldn't come back out again as the post was inside the bodywork might have closed the bus station for a while....but i'm not admitting to that...

[@PartTimeRonin]

9:46 I usually use a hex socket instead if the screw head accepts it. Also, I think an impact driver is more suitable for that kind of job, with less cam out on the screw head. That being said I still think they should be shipped with higher-quality screws.

[@patrickchambers5999]

When in doubt it is always good to read the instructions every time. This time may be different that the last time.

[@artisanelectrics]

Find out more about the Sevadis MaxiCharger here - bit.ly/3EU37EJ-Sevadis

[@gregorythomas333]

I keep a couple old hard drive neodymium magnets in my toolbox for retrieving dropped items like screws...one of them has string tied to it for dangling down holes/pipes.

[@matthewjenkins1161]

For a public use charging point I'd have made the extra effort to connect via ethernet rather than wifi. Aside from the reliability aspect, should the home owner change ISP or router, they could just unplug from the old router and in to the new. Autel already have a good reputation in the 3rd party automotive diagnostics, so interesting to see their name on an EV charge point.

[@clivedeer6211]

Is it my imagination Jordan that the screws for the bracket are also bolts that can be secured with a socket!

[@_Miner]

Thats what I was thinking.

[@gavjlewis]

Autel stuff (diagnostic tools) has been great for us. Updates and customer service has been good. What you didn't mention was public liability insurance? Who provides this?

[@caterthun4853]

Good video. The charger looks as it could be in a dark corner. Perhaps need small illumination in area.. So perhaps when future proofing and charger cable installed a lighting cable also.

[@speedmytube]

Holding my breath as you pushed those test buttons right next to a live busbar!

[@gingerninja7187]

Just wondering as this is supplying a service, would the owner be liable to pay tax and national insurance, ?

[@thomasnorton1690]

Ruben is the luckiest apprentice I have ever seen. Can you do a video with Ruben talking about how his college course is going

[@imark7777777]

I was pulling out of a Rent-A-Car lot after dropping somebody off and I went out the back way but they have the whole lot fenced in and it's a tight corner onto a small street I ended up scraping on the fence. and It was shortly after I got that vehicle. The next one fishtailed and got caught on the edge of the road (for some reason around here there's a white line on the edge there's 2 inches of pavement and they like to just end it with a rough edge that's waiting to catch and kill tires.) and landed next to a tree versus sliding down the hill so it was my slowest accident ever because I was slowing down was before the edge of the road caught me. I really wish I knew how fast but I didn't have a dash cam yet.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

Woooow this is actually a crazy awesome idea! If you have enough parking space you can even install more and with solar panels and batteries…. It’s a great business ❤

[@artisanelectrics]

Just another way to add to the EV infrastructure!

[@thekoalawasbrown]

if it was a great business why is no one doing it?

[@JGS123WRPTP]

@@thekoalawasbrown It's new & people are.

[@judebrown4103]

@@artisanelectrics Jordan although this seems wonderful please be cautious. My wife is a Tax Specialist of nearly forty years experience and works with small businesses in this country. She urges you, if you have not done so, to take tax advice on this venture. For both you and this customer there are tortuous tax implications which could lead to severe penalties for you both. As one of your German followers has mentioned we too have regs about selling on electricity, not allowed if you profit from it unless you register as a business. Domestic electricity is taxed at 5% but business electricity is charged at more than 20% ( I've forgotten the exact figure already, ME brain!) so your customers could find their bills charged at the higher rate. Regarding your situation using your background computing... because your business is now installing charge points if you profit from letting people use your computer system to facilitate their 'charging business' that may well be counted as a second business for you and therefore need registering and will be taxed against. To be even more of a killjoy she says the 'revenoo' have computer programmes which scour this platform looking for just such a venture as this so they can wring as much from the hard working chap as they can. My wife really knows her stuff and although this seems a pessimistic view and she is one to err on the side of caution I urge you to look into this with an experienced tax specialist before you find yourself in a Gordian knot of unexpected difficulties. God bless, I really hope you find a way through the bureaucratic spaghetti because it seems a great idea.🙏 Btw, we have an ev and no drive so we're as hopeful that this comes off as you are, just don't get shafted by you know who! 👍

[@anthonydyer3939]

@@thekoalawasbrown Because you need planning permission to change the use of your property from residential to commercial charging and parking and....... you then need to pay business rates! It's not as easy as changing a charger, if you're doing it legally.

[@alextripp1230]

Hi Jordan, very useful and informative video, what a brilliant concept as think of how many driveways are out there where the owners don't have a vehicle etc... Way forward and clever thinking..!!! 👏

[@artisanelectrics]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@alextripp1230]

@@artisanelectrics I’m not even a sparky, but have a Mechanical Engineering background, I have to say, without doubt your videos are right up there at the best on KZbin, great team of guy’s, very skilled and with pride in their work.. perfect combo, and very watchable.! The company will go far, and I love that, home grown..! Alex.

[@alidavemason4417]

I remember someone back in the 80s reversing his ford sierra ('Jelly moulds' they were called) & one of those low posts went into the front wheel arch. He didn't even realise it at the time, until leaving work that evening when he reversed & pulled the front of the car off.

[@colinrawlins3286]

PH screw means Phillips head screw and PZ means Pozi head screw Phillips is just a cross head screw and Pozi has a additional notch between the cross head of the screw with a matching line on the head in line with each extra notch.

[@SlapRoundTheChops]

I didn’t know this

[@rjkelectrical6086]

At 14:13 I done the exactly the same thing as you’re thinking is going to happen. Blunt cutters, pulled back slipped off and hit me straight under the eye, left a nasty cut

[@TWOKDOK1]

I don’t wish to be a spoilsport BUT before you go installing a charger with the intent of providing a service, under current legislation, selling electrical power to owners of ev’s could be considered as running a business from a private property. This will in all probability need to be approved by the local council and could well incur business rates as a result. Best to check beforehand.

[@geraldelwood9660]

Since the charging device has an A type RCD (DP), would you no prefer to use an MCB in the CU to avoid double tripping? Assuming cable routing doesn't require additional protection.

[@J0nny61]

That puzzled me, there would be no discrimination between devices! The EVSE also has 6mA DC protection.

[@colinofay7237]

Stupidest thing was, I was roughly 19 years old, driving a the work van to drop off some fertilizer at a client, I was going through those tight bollards that force you to slow down, and I wanted to reposition myself, I reversed, and the guy in a clio behind me just stayed there, didn't even use his horn, didn't reverse, and I reversed into him very slowly, there was a cracked bumper and bent the door on the work van, and I'd damaged his paintwork. His car was very old, already covered in damage, and he started complaining about medical damages as well as wanting the company I worked for to paint his whole car. We claimed on insurance, and he tried it on by saying he was off work due to injury, but he was forced to admit he was lying and wasn't injured, I don't think we even had to pay our excess, not sure what happened with him. But I know we didn't have any consequences. Ever since then I've always used my horn when reversing, and tried to always have a camera in recent years.

[@rjkelectrical6086]

I complete dented the side of a company van around 6 years ago in an under ground car park. There was another tradesmen working on something within the car park, instead of asking him to move his tools etc, I swung the van and Mis judged the back of the van, and smashed the back of van on a bollard within the car park! Wasn’t a proud day I must admit.

[@black.phoenix.]

Accidents with work vehicles... I have 2 who stay in my mind. 2009 - Renault Clio Van 2 Phase 1: I was inside a roundabout going forward (second exit) and someone entering hit my right back wheel. Axle was damaged, rear quarter all crumbled. Her car, a broken headlamp. Her car was a VW Rabit from the 90s... 2014 - Renault Clio 3 Van Phase 2: I was in a main road and in a intersection someone didn't stop in the red light. All my front just dissapear, bumper, headlamps and Radiators (both 3 - intercooler, engine and AC). Engine was undamaged. After that I stopped using Renault as work cars...

[@deano6188]

MIND YOUR HEAD sticker! 🤕 or a plant pot or 2... invite someone to use your charge point and they smash there head on that fascia board you'll be paying them! Great vids.

[@TheCrakkle]

I can see it now , the local councils wanting business rates and tax office wanting declared earnings. not just that the new regs due that mean you will only be able to charge at "off peak times" with special tariff imposed on chargers. Make hay whilst the sun shines I suppose.

[@brianoneill3244]

Planning rules. Commercial rates ??

[@Scarletsb0y]

I've just taken charge of my 1st electric car, I know I am late to the party but this is great to be able to take advantage of, awesome idea and service.

[@artisanelectrics]

Certainly is!

[@judebrown4103]

Yeah, I've had mine for only a few weeks but have no driveway. I joined co- charger but the prices people charge and the distance they are from where I live doesn't give any improvement on the rapids near me. Both for convenience and price with the Octopus/BP pulse RFID card they're cheaper and I can shop while I charge. I guess if a neighbour got one and let me charge overnight once a week it might work well...nice idea, I'm interested to see how this works out. 👍

[@theratslayer9635]

I love this idea and would like to consider it as a option. Are you also able to charge your own vehicle fee free like a normal home charger though?

[@artisanelectrics]

Yes of course, not free but using your own power though.

[@Sprengi86]

I'm surprised that is even an option in the UK - here in Germany re-selling electricity as a private individual (especially if you generate it with your own solar PV system on the house) would be a bureaucratic and taxation nightmare!

[@peteglass3496]

In practice, if anyone tried to add a large mark-up over typical electricity cost then no-one would use it. I expect if you made this into a real business then there would probably be a taxation question - I think as an occasional thing, we'd just shrug our shoulders! 😁

[@speedmytube]

public liability nightmare... i.e. if someone trips while charging on your property

[@ianwarren]

If you hadn’t had a SDS 8mm just drill the holes with the 7mm SDS drill you had and open it out with the 8mm conventional masonry bit, as your only taking the hole out 1mm the lack of happier action on the drill wouldn’t have held you up at all!

[@KiwiBlackBelt]

If you have a 'screw' with a hex head, why aren't you using a hex socket to drive it in? Seems basic to me... Do sparkies not know about such things?

[@olly7673]

Autel must be new to EV market as I have not hear of them for EV but know they're well respected for OBD car diagnostic scanners. I will be keen to see non-sponsered reviews of their EV kit.

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

Seems a great idea. How resilient is your back-office system, ie do you have a backup system on a different network if the main one falls over?? Be wary of QR Codes - some are replaced with a link to a dodgy payment system

[@artisanelectrics]

The one we use is run by Tap Electric ⚡️

[@Pugjamin]

😂 thought that the hammer piece was a wind up…..until I viewed the hammer on Amazon 🙈😂

[@ClimateAdaptation]

He was saying the apprentice was naughty for losing his safety glass last week... apple doesn't fall very far from the tree :)

[@black.phoenix.]

From what I understood by the situation, who lost the safety glasses was always Jordan. The ones he was using was Ruben's. At least it is what it looks like because Jordan says that it was his apprentice and then the camera focus on Ruben in a face that tells "What the F is he saying?".

[@ForTheBirbs]

Hmmm, not so much a van story, but there are many shockers in emergency services, of vehicles being driven out before roller doors are fully up and ripping off the lights on the roof or even ladders... Or doing the same on entries to car parks... Ouch.

[@THEsustainable]

2 x 30mA devices in series (1 built into the charge point), where is the discrimination?

[@cjkokay]

Hmm let's scream! The screw, sure you have managed to round out the PH but as you clearly showed, it has a hex on the outside. Instead of backing out the screw, use the spanner to put it in or better use a socket n driver.

[@Chris_In_Texas]

10:04 so why wouldn't you just use a hex driver and run the screw the rest of the way in. You could have used the joker wrenches and went tighter and finished the install with the correct heavy duty screw. 🤠👍

[@chriskeating3024]

Or... Why not just join the CoCharger network if you already have a home charger?

[@sRadio-xg4yr]

If the charger performs as well as their vehicle diagnostic equipment, it will be a little cracker :)

[@peteglass3496]

Jordan, can you it set up with [1] time of use tarrifs and/or [2] as private user, non-public, e.g. for an apartment block share or workplace who don't want to do it free and of course [3] time availability window? NB: there are other ways of sharing a charger, perhaps one with less onboard tech, using services like Co-charger, BookMyCharge, Zap-Home, Plugshare and more...

[@Lewis_Standing]

My wallbox charger has it's own platform for sharing, and has an easy scheduling tool for time of use tariffs

[@leacho4k900]

Hi Jordan - is there load management on this charger? Spotted you used the EV ultra cable - but didn’t see you connect any CT’s? How does this charger manage the load on a domestic installation?

[@pauledwards9493]

I'd never use manufacturer supplied screws. Always awful. Spax for me.

[@iconcomputing4720]

Looks cool and a great way to earn on the side, but you didn't mention how much percentage the customer is getting from those payments for using their power.

[@sionpritchard2060]

Drove my 6 month old Mitsibushi l200 into a field to feed the horses some hay, one of the horses decided to bite the bonnet and gouged the hell out of the paint and dented it. So yeah beat that 😂

[@SteveNail]

Reuben will be having a word with you Jordan losing your expensive safety glasses 😂😂😂

[@ditzfough]

Are these available in the US?

[@crabby7668]

Running a commercial business on a domestic supply. Likely to have tax implications as well as potentially loading the infrastructure.

[@ttkbh]

Nice video 😎 Please link to the cable clip type 🙏 And a link to the fuse type in the din rail. Love the little size

[@peterwagstaff2715]

Do you need planning permission

[@calvinmcmahon2714]

Did the dno confim it is a 100a supply after submitting your ena application or did you carry out the installation without pre notification

[@Alan-ln3ls]

Mounting it low on the wall and tucked into the corner doesn't look very user-friendly, making reading the screen and accessing the socket awkward. Eighteen inches up and to the right might have been better.

[@alanwalton5735]

Buy yourself a fishing magnet for those lost screws

[@wintersun398]

How did you link the charge point to Tap Electric?

[@samrawson8763]

Would be great to show you Monta in more detail! We’re an alternative back office to the one mentioned here and can offer what you’ve explain here and more. 🔌 ⚡️ 💰

[@wintersun398]

As Jordan mentioned in the video, Tap Electric don’t charge a monthly socket fee - what are Monta costs?

[@OraEtLabora0]

8:22 perhaps Ruben "acquired" them? 🤔

[@fujivato]

Cool stuff, something to be wary of when putting up public signs that have QR codes on which redirect users to payment gateways is fraud. “Bad Actors” will come along and replace your code with theirs in an effort to swipe payments. I’m pretty sure Ionity had a similar problem in Glasgow; I’ll see if I can find a link and post it in your Discord 👍🏻

[@artisanelectrics]

Interesting point

[@clivefutube]

So how does that work for your home insurance and who’s responsible for a car fire etc.

[@musclerent]

"MONETISING" is the correct spelling here in the UK!!!!!

[@CrownRider]

What if one of your neighbors hooks up to the charger and leaves for a 3 weeks holiday? Even if you charge them, then you are basically offering a public parking space.

[@terryjimfletcher]

Then you make the IDLE FEE** punitive. **this is in the video

[@steved2136]

@@terryjimfletcher Exactly- first hour/3hr or whatever free, after that 20 pound an hour for the first day, then 100 pound an hour after that... thats the whole idea of the idle fee...

[@grantpatterson1441]

What is in it for the people that own the house?

[@artisanelectrics]

Hi Grant, the customer will make money from people using the chargers we’re just managing that in a back end office.

[@ua420]

That's quite big cable. Probably 8mm² just for few meters of 7kw load.

[@sparksoverhead5188]

Did you use swa cw gland outside or the stuffing gland provided for your cable entry

[@KevinSmith-ph6jv]

Stuffing gland as the ev ultra cable used here is similar to NYYJ. They do make armoured ev ultra cable too

[@sparksoverhead5188]

@@KevinSmith-ph6jv thanks for reply I thought he used swa cable

[@Callofdootie]

Put a screw in a turn into the roll plug and then hammer it flush into the wall.

[@ignasanchezl]

Man why are untethered chargers not a thing in north America

[@Je22345]

nice i like what you have done really good idea 👍👍👍👍

[@philipsmith0752]

interesting video Jordan , it must have made Cory day you damaging your van 🙂

[@pezzpezz7272]

From a domestic setup, you’d be waiting for at least 12 hours to charge your car, unless you only need a short burst to get home. hope they do an air bnb too 😂😂.

[@artisanelectrics]

Think the idea would be more to use it for a top up, maybe if your work is local to the charger or if your in a city going to a concert.

[@pezzpezz7272]

@@artisanelectrics not sure about you, but realistically I wouldn’t be too comfortable with random people parking on my drive, interesting concept nonetheless and always enjoyable content to watch 🙏

[@samrawson8763]

Those without driveways who live nearby may really appreciate it!

[@pezzpezz7272]

@@samrawson8763 if I didn’t have a driveway, chances are I wouldn’t be able to afford an EV

[@TheTransporter1964]

Talking van crashes I hit head on in my VW Transporter a unmarked Renault Mergan Police car on a very narrow country lane. I had stopped but they didn't. The VW not a scratch but the Megan not so good. Never hit a police car it takes for ever to sort out as they have to get a traffic Sgt to come to the crash.

[@thomasnorton1690]

Are you using the milwalkie tools you gave Ruben and does Ruben own any powertools as a apprentice

[@artisanelectrics]

Different tools, Reuben carries most of his own kit, but some stuff is on the vans as he can’t carry it all haha!

[@ianbusby2845]

Is there an issue with people just parking for nothing?

[@staceylee4071]

I can't find Artisan or Tap on Zap Maps!

[@barrieshepherd7694]

You cannot sell electricity at a rate higher than the rate you bought it for. Check the ofgem rules; The resale of gas and electricity: Guidance on maximum resale price (updated October 2005)

[@terryjimfletcher]

This is what the OFGEM pdf says (summary: it does NOT apply here!) "Who does it apply to? Maximum resale price applies when any person buys gas or electricity from an authorised supplier and resells it to someone else for domestic use."

[@barrieshepherd7694]

@@terryjimfletcher The ofgem document goes on to clarify that the 'not applies' is when the resale is at industrial or commercial premises - which a domestic supply, being supplied at domestic tariffs and VAT rate, is not. I suspect that the homeowner would have to be registered as a business to gain exemption and that would change the price at which they buy the power and the VAT rate they get charged. Additionally the purchaser in this case is not an industrial user anyway - they are buying the power essentially for a domestic purpose "charging their car". It is a potential contentious matter which requires some case law I guess.

[@4900dk]

I got a map over the shopping centers parking houses, where we could drive with our box truck 😃 However they had put up small bumps, so when I drove over the bump I became to high and hit a sprinkler, so every car in the parking facility got washed with dirty water 😂

[@barrieshepherd7694]

Those short bollards are sponsored by the local car body repair shops 😂

[@andrewkeith5]

Does nobody else get really frustrated when people say pee-haich instead of Philips, or tee-ex instead of Torx, or pee-Zed instead of Pozi or Pozidrive? It’s so annoying, and actually it’s easier to say the proper word!

[@mattmanslim]

“Not bad for somebody with no neck” 😂😂😂

[@_Miner]

It's looks like a giant wall mounted iPod

[@artisanelectrics]

Who doesn’t love iPods though…

[@funhaus_crew]

So we find out the real reason johnny no neck was fired.......

[@mattwhitley9315]

Just use your own fixings at all times😂

[@HogwartsBasement]

Not bad for someone who has no neck 😂 😂😂😂😂