The Embarrassing Collapse of Joe Budden's Podcast

[@starrlife]

It would be hilarious if Spotify gave Rory & Mal a $100 million dollar deal for their new podcast 😂

[@31TV_TX]

They should. And it should be called "This Is Why We Don't AK Like Joe" or something snarky against those 2 turds

[@BingeworthyContent]

@@31TV_TX NICE lol

[@31TV_TX]

@@BingeworthyContent lol, thanks homie!

[@dominicthelordkabinga]

Joe would become suicidal

[@31TV_TX]

@@dominicthelordkabinga his ego is absolutely bananas

[@Gambit2483]

It can't be said enough...Joe is the literal embodiment of being your own worst enemy.

[@robbiewoolsey]

He always has been. People shouldn't be surprised

[@scarlet8078]

self-destructive af

[@jamalrice3475]

Agreed, but also, he’s a true double edged sword. His flaws are also tied to his strengths. His volatility makes him captivating. Like a Kanye.

[@melteddarkchocolate000]

@@jamalrice3475 no

[@youngshmurda4233]

@@melteddarkchocolate000 yes

[@MrMetsMeeseek]

Joe is just a toxic person who thinks he’s smarter than he is

[@elplebeuchiha1996]

Virgo energy ♍️ [+]

[@dnyaneshlakhmal7735]

Facts

[@GATSU9800]

he probably just like you

[@k.idesigns7092]

@@GATSU9800 what did you gain from this

[@GATSU9800]

@@k.idesigns7092 everything

[@andreiungureanu6311]

Waiting for that "The Embarrassing Collapse of NoJumper" new Trap Lore documentary.

[@bobbytropo2314]

Bump

[@northrndisordr9219]

No jumper went through all that before already

[@eviction.noticed]

Lol

[@mscj4710]

Dammmmmmnnnnn lmao 😂

[@martinrosario4018]

Definitely looking forward to this especially after his wife got piped on blacked 😂😂

[@frostbite3318]

Budden is a narcissist who destroys everything he touches. His attempt to backpedal and “take responsibility” was pathetic. I unsubbed

[@Nayahpooh012]

Me too and stopped watching. Don’t support his values.

[@orextreme6188]

No one cares bout your opinion bro

[@SayNoKing]

As 4 xxx d. Fff. .

[@TwofourA]

@@orextreme6188 139 people do

[@kingmilitia1897]

@@orextreme6188 this gotta be joe budden lmaoo

[@hellboy30098]

Joe turned his back on his friends, plain and simple. This vid came across as more AK and Joe favoring as opposed to the sheer audacity that Joe had in destroying what he had with his friends. It isn't their fault for believing in him, it will always be Joe's fault for being a bad person

[@DrewMANIC]

I agree with your comment more than any other ive seen so far.

[@justdontyellmyname8600]

Friends wouldn't do the ish WYBOI did.

[@TheDarkGBJ]

It is their fault when they didn't see the clear signs that everyone else saw. That's like a woman dating a guy who has a history of abusing women and being surprised when it's done to them

[@Rapscallion227]

@@TheDarkGBJ yes, let’s blame the people who got fucked over, not the guy with clearly awful intentions taking advantage of people get real

[@TheDarkGBJ]

@@Rapscallion227 how about hold both parties accountable. It should have been clear to those guys that Joe was unstable. Actually it was because they joked about it all the time. So much so that people told them that it would eventually bite them in the ass

[@austyn4209]

Dude this is basically a documentary! NO ONE IS GRINDING LIKE TRAP LORE BRO PERIOD!

[@roncur]

Facts!

[@stansmith5610]

Joe budden grinds harder. He don't take 3 weeks to put content out

[@bruceleeroy2956]

This is a pretty pathetic If you ask me. If you feel like Joe lost what's the point of making a hour long video to kick somebody when they're down ? Especially this coming from a white guy? This shit was planned by Rory. Even if Rory didn't pay this guy it's still pathetic and it low-key shows white people been waiting for Joe to fail. It's disgusting

[@Mozes316]

Facts. I have so much respect to the KZbin creators that do amazingly thorough investigation and dig deep. TLR is a safe bet when it comes to be consistent with delivering reliable facts.

[@austyn4209]

@@Mozes316 exactly bro. These creators that put out quality content work hard and it shows!

[@saiiiiiii1]

The fact that Akademiks has a voice in this world shows how fucked up the content nowadays actually is. You can only be famous if you're a full blown basement dweller

[@goldcd]

Real reason for the falling out with Spotify, is that their lawyers objected to his demand to rename themselves Buddenify.

[@rosalind1635]

More like Joe Buddenify

[@dewilew2137]

💀💀💀

[@PaddyPines]

Gas comment 😂

[@Trendsetter5420]

😭😭😭😭

[@sirsavagethe21st56]

TLR actually put a disclaimer on this one, won't stop toe budden from pulling up like a 1 man army to steal your hairline.

[@3lijiah]

Best comment💯

[@zackschilling4376]

He want yo follicles, pronto!

[@LeBeautiful]

Top tier comment

[@napatora]

i'm fuckin crying omg

[@stansmith5610]

Very funny

[@bobbytropo2314]

Joe is an insufferable narcissist but damn he has given us a ton of entertainment at his expense

[@EspinalCarlos1]

He strikes me as the kind of person who’d have a portrait of himself dressed as a military official in his living room

[@chrisd8006]

everyone loves watching a dumpster fire full of shit that can and will explode ...Horrible thing to see, but you can't look away

[@southphillycob257]

Narcissist I bet you a loser made up the term to make himself feel better

[@southphillycob257]

Yup Greek word made up cause the guy was handsome didn’t want the ugly girl I knew it.

[@catta11]

@@southphillycob257 sounds like something a narcissist would say

[@Perc3urry]

AK is very corny. He devoted a lot of streams just to talk about Mal n Rory money don’t uncorny you. He definitely was that kid in high school that nobody fucked wit

[@bilsonmetv]

You either die a hero or live long enough to be a Joe Budden.

[@MrParis215]

🤦🏾😅🤣

[@DarkSaint411]

*Burden

[@jakejakobz]

lol applause........

[@apierre6]

😭😭😭

[@PharoahsKingdom]

😆😆

[@bnwo]

As soon as you said "Joe, please don't strike this down", I saved it.

[@Frank-os6gq]

@N.W.A. what program did you use to download it? i use clipgrab

[@bnwo]

@@Frank-os6gq tubeoffline

[@bestdadakasongoku4157]

Legend

[@Overthoughts]

Yeah this is a goner

[@fadethechannel]

Joe is too much of a narcissist to strike something with his name in the title

[@undercovermc]

Joe Budden is fickle and emotional. Doing business with him is like messing around with an unstable chick. Don't make long term plans with people like that!

[@winesue]

nice pfp, burial is awsome

[@LazySativa]

hahah yea he is just a douchey guy

[@redbull444]

Well said lol

[@pittaaaabread]

Joe is that "friend" that would leave you drunk on the couch after bringing you to a party. He's unreliable and a complete loser. He's got money now but fame is fleeting and his children will sadly have to put up with him and his reputation.

[@rexgamewell]

Sociopath! My brother is just like that nigga! I always plan a silent getaway 😌 because he's mad toxic.

[@gsisemore]

After not watching Trap Lore Ross for years, I forgot how cringe him rapping his ads was. 😖

[@mauss1986]

if you give him money he does not have to do them. or you don't watch or you don't cry about it

[@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock.]

Akademiks calling other people untalented is hilarious

[@christopherengland654]

😅 true

[@AnthonyCheeseborough]

If you think ak is untalented, you just a hater. That's provably false

[@quietman208]

@@AnthonyCheeseborough what is Ak’s talent? Getting drunk and talking about TMZ gossip online? Or you one of those people who thinks “social media networking” is a genuine talent 😂

[@davidtassy9901]

@@AnthonyCheeseborough Yeah just wait till you get to your 30's hehe. He isn't talented. He is popular, big difference. Time always shows talent. We have a horrible problem in this day and age of people thinking popularity is a skill. It's fleeting.

[@AnthonyCheeseborough]

@@davidtassy9901 I'm 30. Also, he just got popular for no reason? It just fell on his lap out of nowhere? No, it doesn't work like that. He got a following because of his personality and his content. To be able to build that large an audience from nothing takes enormous talent.

[@mbeatz17]

The fact that TLR is wearing an Amiri hat is chefs kiss.

[@KingXOreo]

Looks "weird" to me

[@kauswekazilimani3736]

@@KingXOreo That makes it even more chefs kiss lol

[@brandonb72]

He goated for that

[@stansmith5610]

Yea

[@wanmanrmy]

And the titles being in excel as well 😂

[@Jabrils]

I can always count on you TLR to bring me up to speed with a decade full of drama

[@imdW]

My favourite snack eating voice overing youtuber

[@arikari7288]

At one time in history TLR was true True Request Live 😂. Cable tv is nearly extinct anyway.

[@smokeabaguhthat5443]

@@arikari7288 u mean TOTAL request live🤦🏾‍♂️

[@KevinSamuelsPowerBottom]

@@arikari7288 You might need another edit...you still got it wrong 😂 TLR and TRL are not the same thing. One is the name of the channel you watched this video on; the other was an MTV program

[@isitoveryet9525]

@@arikari7288 damn….you got it all wrong lol

[@michaeljohnson1576]

So Akademiks clowned Rory and Mal, yet ends up in arguably the same situation that they did….way to show them, champ…

[@kinghaki3000]

Being a fan of Joe Budden is like being in a toxic relationship. You try to stick around for the good times but in the end you're only fooling yourself.

[@Tameeekababy]

Damn that’s deep, very well said 🙌🏽

[@smavi4133]

Imagine being in a relationship with Joe. (Pause)

[@tegx5997]

does he genuinely have fans ?

[@CandaceStevens]

💯💯💯😂😂😂

[@alpscarlett8897]

He seems like a toxic guy tbf

[@Trash2000s]

Lil B warned us about joe… a track called “t shirts and buddens”…. I’m about to go listen actually. Be right back Ross.

[@MotorCityMob]

Hahaha I had to go peep that track, shit was dope! Can't believe I never heard that before

[@killwill2099]

T shirt and buddens, its a fucking warning shot.

[@Trash2000s]

@Lance Mccyintire it’s a quote from the song 😂😂

[@jp-is1is]

youre right damn

[@Trash2000s]

@Lance Mccyintire no sweat

[@benmgoldberg]

It’s actually hilarious to watch Ak drunkenly ramble on stream and see TLR hold him up as a voice of reason in the conflict lmaooo

[@blakeb9964]

I noticed that too. Pretty lame. I also noticed he tries to act like akademiks a little bit at times. Cringe.

[@realspitter5918]

Yes it became evident that he was watching akademiks and being influenced by him which is not becoming of someone his age

[@S.T.E.E.Z.Y]

@@realspitter5918 Well it’s like you said he’s being influenced by Ak, not acting your age is part of that 😂

[@gobeaners]

Who’d want to act like someone built like a Reese’s Puff & talks out of their ass?

[@edwardangelus5832]

yeah, I was at a friends bat mitzva and we were saying the same thing.

[@Mendokusai99]

This is why you have a solid contract when you partner up. I made the same mistake but my company was only worth about 250k. My partner dropped out but wanted a ton of money to leave. Lawyers, 20k and a "fuck you" later, and he was gone. Never making that mistake again.

[@ballislife9092]

Charla doesn’t know the future he just knows Joe budden very well

[@itisjustacomment]

He just as bad but gets away with it more

[@haveagreatday6952]

@@itisjustacommentthey are incredibly similar. Exactly the same if you ask their e”coworkers.

[@frostbite3318]

Ross, you actually enjoy Ak’s livestreams when he gets belligerently drunk and screams for hours??

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

Literally it amazed me as well, it’s fucking boring as hell. This guy must be a Stan of his which would explain the video

[@sandcastle1417]

No he just doesn't want to be the next target of aks drunk rant...

[@kalashnakov0477]

@@sandcastle1417 Yeah never got why he didn't call spade a spade with BJ Wackademicsk and threw lots of shade at Joe's co-hosts

[@well_as_an_expert_id_say]

@@kalashnakov0477 cause ak is vocal as hell and petty, but w that podcast thing, nobody really cares what Joe or moe or Roly have to say

[@ericw6462]

He’s an ak groupie

[@thenewyorkhip-hopspot5485]

Kinda hypocritical that joe said “I don’t care abt contracts” then when mal says “he never thought he see the day joe would tell him the podcast is none of his buisness” now joe cares about contracts😂

[@EspinalCarlos1]

Bro joe budden is a walking contradiction

[@jaysuserid]

Mal said F that contract and I almost went to heaven. Turn about is fair play.

[@xXxManuelLazoxXx]

@@jaysuserid Joe finally tasted his own medicine

[@TeKDeLorean]

every hero becomes the villain if they live long enough

[@mbealhighjump]

It's all about context. Joe makes those statements, but whether it's Spotify or Complex he always fulfilled his end of the obligation. That final episode between the original cast when Rory asks Joe "Isn't the move we made the same as yours at Comcast & Spotify?" showed he misread the message. Joe builds up a show then waits for his contract to end to ask for more ("stick up time"). Rory & Mal just completely broke their contracts.

[@XDrumble3]

Narcissictic abuse is real and needs to be taken seriously. So many people got hurt due to Joe Budden's increasing grandiosity, lack of empathy and contant self-victimization.

[@morgangaskin3072]

YES!! This comment❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️

[@ilovejesuschrist992]

Yes it is!

[@MCCABEWORLD]

A video about Joe Buddens Podcast downfall & wearing a Amiri hat to it 😂 lol

[@piratediaries572]

if he did this on purpose Trap Ross is a GOD lol

[@isitoveryet9525]

@@piratediaries572 it’s definitely intentional lol

[@michaelanglin622]

How about the fact he was writing the cut scene descriptions on a Microsoft Excel Spread Sheet, which is such a subtle dig at Rory’s telling of how he received the “accounting” I doubt many caught it.

[@joikmorais2199]

@@michaelanglin622 came here looking for this comment lol

[@muhfkajones]

@@michaelanglin622 Damn I just had to delete my comment 😂

[@luesick5145]

Joe "where my hug at" Budden

[@SMUTTGOD]

Haha

[@russellfoster872]

joe definetly be off the molly making women uncomfortable

[@elplebeuchiha1996]

You nasty for that. [+]

[@NineOneThreezy]

Joe “Who’s sucking who’s titties over here?!? followed by crickets” Budden

[@Sweetshuggalow1977]

I can see it🤣🤣🤦🏽‍♀️

[@gilfordmccormack8140]

As someone who listened to the podcast for years I blame Joe & his ego. I believe that both sides needed to go their separate ways. There had been tensions between the guys for years it just imploded this past spring. I think the guys had different visions regarding their futures.

[@Keviekev115]

It’s with all people who “ start” Something. Think things are ALL because of them and not the employees or people Who help them

[@morgangaskin3072]

yes!!!! This comment❗️❗️❗️❗️

[@markieffmorris9263]

Rory looks like he was one umbilical cord tangle away from full blown Downs Syndrome.

[@AlexTheLate]

If you watched Everyday Struggle at all, that was probably when his ego was at its peak. He constantly blew up on Ak, albeit Ak is a culture vulture. Tried to fight the Migos, and basically called Yachty trash to his face. Another issue is that he's genuine about being an asshole, and doesnt care about repercussions.

[@bumman117]

Akademiks is like a overgrown 13 year old.

[@brockontop]

And it's not even worth putting hands on him because you know he's going straight to the cops.

[@KingChaddi]

All i really learned from this is that i really really don't like Akademiks

[@jondbaptis2184]

Skillshare

[@thecardio]

whackadipshit is the worst.

[@a-q9414]

Why is he your profile picture then

[@KingChaddi]

@@a-q9414 ik were both fat black men but we look nothing alike so you're either racist or blind nice try though

[@itzmimz8238]

I hated Akademiks before this lol his roasting of Rory and Mal was hilarious

[@sly.the.artist1935]

no matter what akademics has achieved in his life, id never trade places with him, i would never want to be like that

[@neilboston4629]

Shut up

[@sly.the.artist1935]

@@neilboston4629 no

[@undisputed6034]

Lmao true ! Honestly could you imagine waking up in the morning and looking in the mirror, and see akademics, tshhh be so disappointing tho.. like how do you have the confidence to talk to any women anymore

[@sly.the.artist1935]

@@undisputed6034 it would be the worst

[@sly.the.artist1935]

@@latinouncle8752 doesnt matter what he is, he is himself which is already the whiff of ass gass

[@kenfresno2125]

"We finally sold another hat!" - Amiri

[@blmbeachboy5976]

JOE WEARING FUNNY HATS I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS ANYMORE - MAL 😂🧢

[@QnzColdest]

Pop smoke wore an Amiri hat

[@lxLanarchyxl]

@@QnzColdest unless thats popsmokes its a dud

[@bogard9627]

@@QnzColdest ok and? You do know that you don't have to like something just because someone else does?

[@zion7152]

@@bogard9627 who said that?

[@JeffChege]

Watching this months later, it's very eye opening. A cautionary tale warning against assuming friendship with someone. Throughout the whole ordeal, i blindly sided, and still side with Rory and Mal, but i am keen to learn from their mistakes. Rory mentioned it best on the point of friendships ruining businesses and businesses ruining friendships. Ignored subliminals about the friendship, or lack thereof, if addressed may have spared plenty of hurt. For Rory and Joe, i feel the business did not start because they were friends...the friendship started because there was business. For Mal and Joe, many assumptions about the business, on both sides, went unaddressed because of the long-term friendship, leading to the demise of both the friendship and business.

[@ytname7005]

Damn...

[@TheTehrancarroll]

Couldn’t agree more

[@JamesJones067]

Not feeling ur take on Rory and mal. I think joe snaked them big time and there new podcast is getting numbers. I’m team mal and Rory after this whole thing. Joe always screamed about the creators getting paid and getting what their worth but when it comes to his own friends and partners he forgot that. Joe is foul!

[@mauricebrown1277]

@@LiberianHokage I’m listening to both but I’m watching to see. They are going to get the interview of all interviews. It’s coming stay tuned. So i think they’re going to be around

[@laserglider]

The difference is, Joe doesn’t see Rory and Mal as creatives. They’re only value is ON the podcast. Compare that to everyday struggle, which was joes show with complex, but Ak had his own value in war on chiraq and was an independent contractor with complex alongside Joe. Rory and Mal don’t have this with Joe

[@JamesJones067]

@@laserglider u have a point! But to my understanding mal and Rory were supposed to be profit partners. They simply asked to see the books to know what split they should be getting and got fired for it. That’s the shady thing I see that joe did. Cuz I can’t count how many times joe has screamed about not being shown the books during his career and being left out of the business side.

[@stack3r]

Why Joe even need to discuss his deal and business on air? Thats shady as fuck.

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

Tbf the guy needed to be as objective as possible but I feel he has slight leanings in favour of joe CTG, Shultz, AK, which I agree is not the take I got from all this. Rory and Mal might have made some big errors along the way but I don’t think they were dudes will bad intentions and I think Joe was the main problem, anyone doubting that now is delusional. Something still tells me this guy has a slight bias towards the wrong people though, because he literally hyped up AK and CTG as if they’re not cringe douchebags themselves and I got the vibe he doesn’t like Rory, which I don’t understand tbh, Rory doesn’t do anything to be majorly disliked (in the perspective of people that don’t know him)

[@4Texsty4]

Joe is toxic. I started paying attention to how he moves and talks to people and that shit blew me away. I was blind

[@mhm6]

Damn you really must be cause this is old news. Since the days of complex

[@Kappatalism]

@@mhm6 since Tahiry

[@RipsharkTV]

@@mhm6 People oversee it because his attitude problem is somewhat consistent of your avg rapper. A lot of rappers be on that im the boss shit

[@DontfuckwithdaGunslinger420]

Nah this shit has been going on since he was part of Slaughter House

[@crystalortiz6757]

Crazy part is anytime WOMEN specifically called his behavior out cause we spotted the Marxism from a mile away , y’all disregarded us called us dramatic and sensitive SMH .

[@mattnoah8309]

Seems like Ak had a bit of an obsession with Rory

[@Gambit2483]

He is a whack ass troll...insecure and empty inside. Classic case of misery loves company

[@chance2413]

Ak hates whitey

[@solitary2]

Ak isn’t respected, he just gets paid to be around. Probably one of the highest paid groupies. I dunno how he does it, he has no charisma

[@mattnoah8309]

@Johnng Fred it was just an observation I made 3 months ago from watching this video. I can’t say that I knew all the history. I def did not. But you ok man? Seem a bit rattled over something very small. Things good with the fam? There’s people you can talk too out there. Or just young and dumb?

[@mattnoah8309]

@Johnng Fred nah we’re good.

[@sosopepp1]

This aged terribly.

[@lax398]

the fact that all the transitions are in Excel spreadsheets is hilarious

[@StackBounty]

Its the most officialist of official transitions like the accounting Rory and Mal received.

[@statefarmjake8027]

@@viralvideochannel3540 if you’re trying to imply that you’re some successful business owner hate to break it to you but selling Gildan shirts with your shitty logo pressed on it isn’t a business.

[@dbsuper2928]

Dude used to sell sand to Sandra Bullock.. so I think he knows a thing or two about business

[@Shasgirl]

Almost went over my head 😂😂

[@bluntballoons1756]

and then the Amiri hat 😂

[@trixx9652]

Listening to AK talentlessly yell into a microphone sounds like something the army would use to torture p.o.w's with

[@OtisisCookie]

Mix in angry German poetry at .25x speed and it’s perfect 🤣

[@yhhkj529]

@@OtisisCookie That’s just Eminem.

[@mattiaserra1179]

Sounds like the ludovico treatment from a clockwork orange 💀💀💀

[@jezebulls]

He needs to take TLR’s advice and sign up for Skill Share

[@napatora]

even worse would be any of his podcasts where 6ix9ine and wack 100 are yelling over each other repeating themselves over and over

[@bangaamen501]

Joe literally bodied himself.

[@stansmith5610]

Yall reaching just cause yall feel bad for rory and mal. Believe me a year from now joe is going to have more listeners and rory and mals hype will die down

[@jonsno3688]

@@stansmith5610 it already died down nobody give a fuck bout them lames joe still get bread and podcast still going up this did nothing lol

[@jackcarver5412]

@@stansmith5610 Unless they bring in constant guest, thats the only thing to save them in the long run

[@dylanshandley1246]

@@jackcarver5412 that’s mad ironic since outside of the pods with guests, the pods with Rory and Mal are the pods with the highest views for the last couple months 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@anomalyldn]

Only ‘rapper’ he ever actually ‘bodied’

[@Cuz_alegend]

3 years later…. Far from collapse

[@haveagreatday6952]

🥴🥴

[@samki9807]

Ross wearing the hat with “AMIRI” on it is fucking hilarious

[@nopeynopenoper]

no one talking about 1:27:33

[@amp4105]

what, why?

[@vincemcmahon9867]

Why is it hilarious

[@samki9807]

@@vincemcmahon9867 cause joe is infamous for wearing amiri hats

[@northrndisordr9219]

“Wearing funny hats” mal voice

[@tomtik101]

Ross, to be fair, you skip over the fact that Rory tried to bring stuff to the table on behalf of the podcast, but Joe would bug out on him for it. Unless by "having something of his own", you mean something separate outside the podcast, which even then, he has Dussepalooza (until the pandemic) and the group he manages and whatever else on the music side. Also, it should be noted that the split was likely inevitable anyway by even Rory and Mal themselves, as they figured Joe would attempt to make them take a salary pay once their contracts ended, which he knows they would never go for, thereby purposefully pushing them out.

[@mexican8485]

Exactly

[@EM-lv3lw]

He either is not caught up and didn't watch their response to Joe&stuff. I was disappointed 😞 when i saw all the holes missing and all the reused Ak Jokes made me wonder if maybe his alliance to Ak made him not include things like this.

[@kjk607]

Yeah there was some very clear bias in the telling of this story.

[@Beautifully_Chaotic3109]

Great points

[@E1evenDegrees]

Agreed but probably just biased in the situation. I feel like he listened to the response because he used the excel spreadsheet in the beginning.

[@blkmoon_exe]

the amiri hat, the excel spreadsheet titles, he knows what he's doing

[@ms.neechie5705]

😂 absolutely

[@williamblackfyre4866]

Really biased though. Hating hard on Rory and Mal and riding drunk DJ Akademik's dick.

[@avace917]

Dude. You gave Ak too many passes in this story. Especially by trolling Rory and Mal. Just tell the story

[@NeiasaurusCreations]

Why though? Isn't trap loss personality and style the exact reason we like his videos? Like why would you want a bland, personality-less documentary about something as interesting and entertaining as this. Ross likes AK...He's allowed to like the dude, and to praise him in HIS video...And I'd suggest you accept it, or find a new channel to watch. Cause this is worthless criticism.

[@avace917]

@@NeiasaurusCreations that's you're opinion and that's fine. No criticism is worthless. If it doesn't do anything that's fine. I have a right express my opinion

[@avace917]

@@NeiasaurusCreations The video caught my attention a month ago. I haven't watched anything here since. I'm only even back here because of your comment. You expressed yourself. Congratulations

[@NeiasaurusCreations]

@@avace917 I never said you didn't have a right to express it. I just called it worthless criticism. Also, criticism can absolutely be worthless. For instance screaming "UR FAT" is technically criticism of a person, well their appearance anyways. But its not exactly worth anything. This comment is very similar in the way its worthless. Telling someone "I don't like you having personality or opinions just stick to the facts" isn't exactly very useful criticism. Especially on youtube a platform where any type of content you can imagine has entire communities of people doing that very thing. So a person's personality and style is what sets them apart. Trap lore for instance makes jokes about everyone. His personality and style is what sets him apart. So your criticism is worthless, and actually just bad criticism, and would harm a channel to listen to. I don't have anything against you personally, I just think your take is very bad. I'm sure you're a fine dude, and all. Just the criticism is bad. And I can't exactly not address bad criticism, its a problem for me. I've never been able to kick it.

[@avace917]

@@NeiasaurusCreations bad is an opinion that you have a right to have. Deuces

[@TheVictorLoyiso]

When Joe didn’t mention Rory and Maul during his Spotify deal announcement post, just went on about himself, they should have woken up and smelled the Joe Budden flavoured coffee and kept it moving.

[@lilacrain3283]

Joe Budden flavored coffee would probably taste like shit

[@JPeoplzOIII]

Thats nasty

[@Jdilla2982]

Spotify didnt want Mal or Rory...thats why its called the Joe Budden Podcast

[@tybell7]

Joe Budden flavored coffee definitely taste like Newports

[@JPeoplzOIII]

If I see another person contemplate on what Joe Budden taste like as liquid again, Ima unsubscribe from this thread but not before thumbs downing yall comments.

[@geraldmeyers4639]

It's interesting how Mal and Rory's side of the story gets the "according to" treatment, and every carefully twisted word that comes from Joe and DJ Akademics is presented as undeniable facts.

[@talkstosocks2]

Yea, I was really disappointed in this one... Rory and Mal say they weren't asking for money, just accounting which is required by law, Ross says they were unhappy with their payout. What?

[@Gymthingz]

@@talkstosocks2 if they had the legal right they would of been able to sue. Seeing that they did not. A contract must not of been in place. So why do they feel entitled to anything

[@Kingadaton]

But isn't all this according to... It's clear y'all picked sides but the truth is no one knows what happened except them... Someone saying something loudly or something more convincing doesn't make it real for both sides... The fact is that shit was corny on BOTH sides... They made everything they worked for lame asf.... And neither pod is the same or can hold a candle to the original JBP and if you say differently it's clear you choose a side.

[@talkstosocks2]

@@Kingadaton it's different when, talking about contracts, one side is saying things that make sense with the law and business and the other side is flailing

[@Kingadaton]

@@talkstosocks2 if it makes sense in law and they were entitled to something... Wouldn't they have ready access to those things... Because at that point Joe would be breaking the law... No words have been uttered... That is a reach and you assuming something is tell the truth... And to ask for your accounting is one thing...but to go behind someone's back and schedule a meeting to plan an entire staff mutiny is crazy...if it was just YOUR accounting why involve EVERYONE...because your trying to actively destroy or control a situation that you aren't in control of...that's fucked...especially with a "friend"...you want accounting and didn't like what you got...Joe was fucked in not giving them the accounting they wanted...but what they really wanted was CONTROL

[@ASJA82]

If you don’t have 1hr 40m then basically Rory and Mal thought they were partners but they were employees.

[@JBSauce]

Thank you

[@ASJA82]

@@JBSauce you’re welcome

[@briangriffith4574]

Also theres some fat drunk dude screaming a bunch of nonsense that is pretty much insignificant but Ross included it for some reason. It's a waste of time.

[@benmgoldberg]

Also Ross thinks Ak is cool

[@droomzy]

thanks man. also TLR looking up to Akademiks is probably the lamest facet I've learned about him bc Ak just acts like a manchild most of the time. granted, Joe used to yell at Ak on Everyday Struggle like an abusive stepfather so I guess I don't really see a podcaster here to "look up to" regardless. I respect Rory & Mal; Joe's ego gets in his own way. TLR has also defended DJ Vlad despite Vlad most definitely using incriminating circumstances for video content with the criminals there who don't know better than to not speak on their cases. Vlad just feels kinda grimey somehow. but I guess that's why people say journalism's sleazy

[@riley4872]

You riding Akademiks 🥩 a bit too much

[@jibsmokestack1]

Being an AK Stan is a bad look Ross! 👀

[@Markblood889]

Fr

[@Lootroq]

I don't think he is. I've watched most of the streams he showed here and Ak is just hilarious even if you don't agree with his points.

[@justarandomgamer6309]

Not trying to be rube, but was that the heavy set man that was constantly yelling and insulting the two in this video?

[@benmgoldberg]

Seriously lost respect for this man after this 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jadiahavala4656]

VERY

[@Thisthat1234]

Joe been a goooof, been a problem and been difficult. History repeats itself

[@trell271988]

I like how you broke up the segments into excel spreadsheets highlighting the accounting dispute

[@thatguyoverthere6743]

And the Amiri hat

[@Mj_Billz]

Didn’t notice that

[@napalmsf]

I remember listening to Budden on the DJ Clue and DJ Envy tapes in the early 2000s. Never in a million years would've imagined him turning out like this 🤣 Shoutout to you for putting this together for the rest of us 💪

[@BLKBKLN]

I actually like what Rory & Mal appear to be in the process of building. This was necessary for them to grow and they seem to be ready to seize the moment.

[@shenellrichardson4936]

Agreed

[@pluggedscope3007]

That shit wont last . They overly agree with each other a lot. Podcast dont work like that

[@WopJr]

@@pluggedscope3007 maybe for people who like drama but i don’t see anything wrong with that

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

I do think they need a third member or something to add to the dynamic because it seems very random at times, it’s a lot of the tangent topics they used to have on the JB podcast but without a lot of the main topics that would get clipped up and become their own videos. Right now, from what I’ve seen, they haven’t done that, but they are trying some different stuff. I hope it works out and they add something to the dynamic because they deserve it.

[@raimarulightning]

@@pluggedscope3007 Hey, bro. How's that take feeling?

[@EM-lv3lw]

🧐TLR Im a supporter but idk if its the AK love but this doc came off biased against Rory&Mal.Alot of the truth&their best points were missed/left out🤨😑

[@cranoverseplus]

Exactly I fw tlr but he was biased asf when it came to Ak

[@williamraphael1133]

BECAUSE THEY ARE BUMS. WORKERS. PROFIT PERCENTAGE HOLDERS. NOT O W N E R S

[@cranoverseplus]

@@williamraphael1133 all of ur comments on this vid is riding ak HEAVY ASH, I fw him but u def just big fan 😭. U prolly don’t even watch the podcast

[@williamraphael1133]

@@cranoverseplus I’m not riding Ak. I’m chastising the bozos who hate him so bad because I never understood why he gets so much unnecessary HATE. I’d want ppl to stick up for me the same way. I hate when I see shit that’s unfair and down right incorrect. Flawed logic.

[@cranoverseplus]

@@williamraphael1133 all I’m saying tlr put too much into the whole Ak situation, and that didn’t even play as big of a part as he insists it does. A lot of aks claims are true but tlr was biased asf.

[@EargasmEnt]

You said Rory & Mal weren’t there in the beginning and didn’t help build the podcast. You must have missed the part where Rory said he uploaded episode 1 of I’ll Name This Podcast Later to SoundCloud, that it was via his email and his homie did the artwork.

[@talkstosocks2]

He seems to have missed a lot from their response.

[@Mattbeee]

@@talkstosocks2 it's the fact that this trap lore guy is a akademiks nut hugger which loses all credibility to me.

[@talkstosocks2]

@@Mattbeee true that

[@JakeK3339]

@@Mattbeee FR. In fact I stopped watching when he kept putting cringe Ak clips into this whole video. Would have been good if he wasn't so one-sided about the whole situation.

[@acecashman1237]

@@JakeK3339 so you missed all the times Ross criticized and took shots at Joe?????

[@unabashedlyashley]

I’m here 8 months later and dead at the amiri hat and spreadsheet chapter intros 😂😂

[@kingkongkockinyourtinyhole5806]

Rory was just sticking it out same with maul they didn’t get clowned joe just showed everyone how selfish he can be and now Rory and maul got the most the fan base on there side

[@WhaleManMan]

Akademiks will literally get mad for hours over nothing.

[@damiantheomen9892]

I loved it

[@LaFlame297]

And be talking to himself

[@stack3r]

Talentless clowb

[@charmz3996]

So basically rory and mal stood loyal to joe even when he fell out with so many people and they still got shitted on.. they are supposed to be the people u keep around that kind of loyalty is rare. Like kevin hart said this is why joe is where he is

[@EargasmEnt]

Fine line between being loyal and naive. You can’t sit by and watch someone shit on mad people and think it won’t happen to you. He did to them what he has done to Rosenberg, Marissa, and every woman he has been with.

[@quaweeguy]

When did Kevin say that?

[@sfarris3206]

This right here!!

[@hibredtv]

And who tf is Kevin Hart to judge. Lmao

[@TheRelentlessKnight]

@@EargasmEnt y’all all got 2020 hindsight.. he fired people so they gotta expect that they’re next? Y’all can’t see moves before they happen stop pretending like u can

[@jedihubbyhersh]

The trolling and the quips at Mal and Rory was unnecessary major fail for what coulda been great

[@doodoobrown7551]

He's jealous of Rory 💯

[@ScruFaceJeanOfficial]

You can tell TLR is an Ak fan and looks up to AK lol this reporting was more than a lil leanin in his favor lol. Respectfully this feel like a fandom vid lol

[@_Palesa_M]

It’s actually annoying. Some clips about him were really unnecessary.

[@lochnessspeedwerkz6557]

I got the same feeling Scru. How you call someone bums when you keep dipping into their drama to fill your pod with content....fucking bum.

[@ngpdreamteam2k4]

Ak put those two stooges to sleep. They haven’t mentioned his name since. Nobody cares about the albino and mealie mal

[@ngpdreamteam2k4]

We held a 4 hour funeral to lay those two bums to rest. Smokin on black mals and Rory packs. Ain’t nobody checking for them anymore. Their done

[@valx5]

@@ngpdreamteam2k4 their very first podcast dropped like a week ago and got over half a million views since then. I don’t really care bout Ak or R&M but they’re clearly still buzzin lol now more than ever

[@timlett99]

2 things I love about this: -how TLR says Rory -attention to the fact Joe Budden does nothing but destroy himself time after time after time lmao

[@PLJ-tp6ry]

It's so hilarious watching him fuck up time after time with his bipolar ass lol

[@stansmith5610]

Destroy himself? How? He's doing good. Just cause he passes people off dont mean he's destroying himself lol

[@charlesbeasley1843]

After time, after time...

[@timlett99]

@@charlesbeasley1843 after time after time after time...

[@djangounchained9387]

@@timlett99 Fun fact: the way TLR says Rory is the same way DJ Akademiks says Rory, to mispronounce his name as Rury just to annoy Rory since both men dislike each other

[@Dre9Mega]

When the ego and emotions rule your life, you're bound to fail. Therefore, when you have titans in the game like Joe Rogan, you have to appreciate the mindset and ethics of those guys. Never let the fame go to your head.

[@projectmayhem6668]

🎯

[@alwayssorry346]

Lmfao are you kidding me? Joe Rogan is not comparable at all to this.

[@BookofProverbs]

@@alwayssorry346 he wasn’t comparing them haha

[@Thelastatoic]

3 years later Joe is going crazy still 💪🏾

[@tiastewart98]

People do not realize when they have a narcissist in their life. I’m sad for how it turned out for Rory and Mal. But I could tell even watching how Joe would talk to Ak on their show, he was just disrespectfully mean and never called out on it. 🤷🏽‍♀️ you can’t work with ppl like that

[@hurricanev6]

Ordinarily I'd agree, but the way buddens moves was well known on the internet and in real life. They knew who he was, they knew what he do, and as much as it hurts to be betrayed, they willingly put themselves in that position.

[@TheStringray2]

They’re grown men lol they knew the kind of person he was

[@jimmieberguin4062]

It’s funny you say that because the first and only episode of their show I watched was about XXXTentacion and Joe was not shy on showing how self absorbed he was. Like it was blatantly obvious. The dude sees himself in a very different light than the rest of us.

[@scottmartin7042]

@@hurricanev6 you also have absolutely no idea where all these people were at in their lives. Maybe Joe had proven to 2 of his good friends that he'd grown up and changed. Plus it's a huge opportunity to get exposure and make some money basically just talking sh!* about life music art women ect ecr

[@jamesdoakes4956]

and now they have their own show called New Rory and Mal. And it started out solid, then turned into a tea channel gossiping about women and relationships 99% of the time

[@owl509]

Joe Budden wanted Spotify to give him a massive deal for his podcast that could've been destroyed simply based on how he woke up in the morning 😂

[@iamthenati]

Akademiks has no right to talk about other people's talent level. Everyday Struggle died after Joe left. He made his "success" off mocking the dead in Chicago. He's been checked on air by people on Everyday Struggle and backed down every time. Every time I see a Vod/clip of Akademiks he's always drunk looking like a alcoholic.

[@kalashnakov0477]

BJ Wackademiks swear he's God's answer to Hip Hop and he's a modern day John D. Rockefeller, sad he's got a following and a platform.

[@Dan_Therapist]

someone said Ak looks like a Chipmunk with Akorns in its mouth and ive never unseen it

[@WITHBEN]

3 years later...the JBP has 1.4M subs and rory and mal get 50k views a video....joe and ak were right

[@king_vision4085]

JBP had most of those subs when Rory and Mal were on there. And Joes new episodes aren’t as funny or legendary as the old ones

[@WITHBEN]

@@king_vision4085 I'm not denying whst youre saying...I was more so just responded to the latest part and wanted to update audience where everyone is at now. Once they disbanned, I stopped watching all of them

[@3lijiah]

@@WITHBENthey built there own platform without a name like joe budden pretty nice numbers lol no doubt joe budden is bigger but they didn’t flop

[@Stooshit]

​@@3lijiahthey just made a OVO How fest

[@dthomscappello]

Joe saying Hov was in his head saying "So what" in response to Mal and Rory was textbook projection. He clearly gave away he's still traumatized over that happening to him and he can't help but throw that onto those close around him

[@MrEuroDollaz]

I thought this but too high to type it 💨 ⛽️

[@VentDeux]

@Jose Lino you guys missed the part where Jay Z requested to do a remix of Pump it up, and Joe denied it. Joe always been selfish ........and narcissistic. Everybody knows the top artists usually jumps on a smaller artists wave. Thats how Top Artists stay relevant, and new artists become solidified . Joe never became solidified in the industry as a result. making him a one hit wonder.

[@bleachboys3623]

@@VentDeux true, it’s prolly not fair but you gotta assume a huge artist like Jay is gonna do what they want regardless, best bet is to just roll with it and pretend ur happy lol

[@xX-qw4of]

@@VentDeux Jay did a freestyle over the beat. Jay did this because Joe refused the cost of a Jay Z verse. These verses aren't cheap. Usually the artist doing the feature for a verse isn't getting a percentage too, unless they ask for it, but good luck with that... Jay Z isn't his friend. It makes sense that he'd ask his normal fee for it. Taking that personally is kinda strange. Both people felt slighted in this, but you have to remember that Joe Budden approached Jay for it, not the other way around.

[@VentDeux]

@@xX-qw4of ok

[@laxx1559]

The Excel document at the intro went over some of ya'll heads.

[@WilliamStroker]

Elaborate

[@purplemashedpotatoes8886]

yeah. it is used for the segment titles not just the intro

[@producedbyAntonio]

@@WilliamStroker when Rory and Mal asked for the accounting from Joe for the JBP he sent them an excel spreadsheet trying to be cute.

[@markw464]

The amiri hat he’s wearing too is a swipe at Joe.

[@GUNFU_U]

Gotta get that accounting

[@darxcide7375]

You completely missed what Rory and Mal brought to the podcast. Yes Joe is the A mic but only because he screams and shouts his edgy, hypocritical and often delusional takes. Mal is Rocafella royalty. Played it cool and let his actions speak for him the same way Jay and Biggs taught him. Dude is close with half of the NBA too. He's a humble dude and he's not a podcaster but he knows right from wrong and would never compromise himself or his integrity for anyone. Meanwhile, Rory was an honorary member of the industry illuminati. Always at parties and with connections that no one really knew about. Somehow manages a massive R&B group and put together an album out of nowhere with crazy features like an American Mark Robson. He also was legit the funniest guy on the podcast for a long time. So yes Schulz is a comedian but his podcasts arent funny or listenable. People might have showed up to hear Joe's crazy takes on this or that but the only reason people stuck around or bothered with a whole episode was to hear Rory and Mals take on the topics and do their best to bring Joe back to reality. Ice and Ish are cool but there's a reason you can't replace Rory and Mal with a Builder and a Deadbeat Dad you met in a stripclub.

[@lexymaxie7659]

Facts !!!!!!!!!! I couldn’t even listen to brilliant idiots. He was the unfunniest comedian I’ve ever heard lol . But yeah he should definitely put some more respect on Rory & Mal . They are irreplaceable. Happy to see what Rory and Mal do on their own . Everything happens for a reason

[@uncleice4929]

Rory is corny af. Always was.

[@djnaturalwav]

Cap! Mal and Rory were bums. Easily replaceable. Ice and Ish are way more entertaining

[@iffysd9864]

Ey man alot of facts her both of them have deep connections. Why did mal and biggs get tied up in the streets after the rocafella success though?

[@Ahyoka888]

Lost with that last paragraph

[@darthcheeseburger]

Joe seems like a classic narcissist. I've had loads of experience with this type of personality. Highly motivated, massive egos, perfectionistic, can be extremely dynamic and loveable/charming at times. They are only ever looking out for the most important person - themselves and what they can get out of the people and situations they're in. Every interpersonal drama is easily explained as the other person's issues. There's never accountability or ownership. They are basically clueless how people really feel about them or just don't care. Joe will never change. He'll keep sabotaging his life and never really learn. These types of people can't get past their own egos and aren't self aware/humble enough to make lasting changes.

[@alisternaidoo3927]

Mal has the ability to condense down a street perspective. Mal: “That’s crazy.”

[@robliberachi]

😂😂😂😂

[@EspinalCarlos1]

He’s the most uninteresting person to ever host a popular podcast. It’s not even funny

[@jaccpot]

Lmaoo

[@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@ChrisGoldie]

@@EspinalCarlos1 my dawg everyone not gonna yell into a mic to get their points across 😂 in the podcast world everyone has different characters and roles they play for the audience. Lol

[@check2000]

small fact check, it was actually Rosenberg who came to Joe with the idea about doing a podcast about hiphop..

[@check2000]

Also rory was already on board since episode 1 or 2 (behind the scenes), if i'm not mistaken. he actually set up the soundcloud page and his friend did the artwork.

[@milorad4201]

i started watching Joe on everyday struggle and been following his mess ever since... his ego is truly his biggest obstacle

[@Dshwayy]

Watching this back a year later. It’s actually kinda funny to me how wrong everyone was about Rory & Mal. They landed on their feet and actually are having a great run in there own right and are pumping out great content imo. I think people underestimated the amount of respect Rory and Mal had form the industry. Hell tbf even I didn’t think they’d land on their feet but props to them they did.

[@manpr03]

Their*

[@NoseyNuNu]

I always felt like it was Joe's fault. I don't even watch Joe anymore, he's his worst enemy 😔

[@trtmuslimmcgregor4200]

Who knew that Mal was THIS talented? I mean, i knew he had more in the bag, but that dude has been crushing it now that he has the room to operate

[@Markzuckfuckerburg]

@@trtmuslimmcgregor4200 I’ve been saying this if Rory and mal had actually got respect and had a chance to talk then the would’ve had Spotify deals and would have to have been named on the pod they would have gotten there respect and would have had something to own/negotiate with it tbh if they would had gotten air to breathe than joes network would have actually been worth something 😂

[@boofman0486]

They fell off let's all be real here. Their last 4 podcasts havent even passed 15k views

[@Phillyhippie215]

The way you break down so many wild moments in hip hop are just marvelous.

[@teddywap9569]

I've been watching the JBP for years. Watching this TLR video has confirmed that I've been living in denial and Joe really is who everybody says he is.

[@Cloud91738]

Facts😂

[@jasonelfers5655]

It truly hurt when I realized this, I had listened to the Pod twice a day for years and defended what I thought Joe was all about. Only for him to prove he's 100% a full of shit hypocrite.

[@eazymb.]

I’m glad you one of the folks that could admit it. I was called a hater for years for pointing out the obvious. Joe Budden is a loser. Because he doesn’t appreciate what he has.

[@elijahgavin6706]

It’s called duped by a narcissist

[@aldomedina7999]

It's called learning to be the boss instead of a worker shit changes once you start making real money

[@a.rae.]

I feel like aks hate for the two men is just weird and too much. Embarrassing

[@SoulSa93]

Rory literally pulled up to ak’s crib late at night to pull a prank on him…

[@a.rae.]

@@SoulSa93 yeah I just got to that part... equally Weeird. Whole sit is embarrassing. Then to basically snitch with passive comments. No wonder celina dated ak tho. It all makes sense now. They're clout crazy 🤧

[@NinjaFingers19]

@Gem Rose maybe he didn’t hand deliver it but he sent it

[@esemaniac13]

@Gem Rose no, Joe said he believed AK. And AK did show screenshots of the KIA.

[@esemaniac13]

He didn't add it but early on Rory and Mal really hated on AK. Blaming him for random deaths and even questioning why he's allowed to have a platform

[@piusnderitu9136]

What is happening here is like a bunch of grown women doing a whole lot of gossip, shooting each other in the salon with piercing comments and then whining when they lose out. Joe Budden looks just like the type.

[@d___c____5604]

Trying to compare Joe Rogans podcast deal to Joe Buddens is like comparing apples to corn. Joe Rogan has multiple guests multiple times a week and covers subjects that span the board. Budden is exclusively dedicated to hip hop, which will only appeal to one segment of listeners.

[@morgangaskin3072]

❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️

[@alonedownthere47]

fame wise it's similar tho, if kevin hart is talking about you then you're basically the joe rogan of niggas

[@cardbored_]

Not to mention one of them is a stand up dude who uplifts those around him and the other one is Budden.

[@thatlibrachick1532]

True but for sure better than Amy’s podcast

[@sarab3417]

​@@cardbored_ Joe Rogan is a "stand up dude"?? how did I end up on this side of the internet? 🥲

[@m3anmug]

Ak on Joes nuts even though Joe treated him like an idiot on Everyday Struggle.

[@TimahR]

Lol make it make sense

[@theblackgods4699]

It was less about Joe and more about Rory .ak hates rory

[@dreams3537]

Big Draco brought him to Dj on versuz too. Hes doesnt take it personal

[@shenellrichardson4936]

😭

[@est94]

That was in front of the camera Ak said many times He learned a lot from Joe

[@thesandmansohh]

Wtf does Ak's opinion has to do with this directly? Nothing. Oh that's right trap lore is cut from the same cloth as ak

[@ttravis10]

I wish I could get the 65 mins I put into this vid back smh. This a whole Ak Stan account.

[@jordan.h6821]

@@ttravis10 how so?

[@zclan4130]

@@jordan.h6821 he based everything off of ak’s interpretation of events. He didn’t mention that ak was harassing rory for months and constantly harassing rory’s family and his fiancé at the time

[@jordan.h6821]

@@zclan4130 Cap, AK only came for Rory after he dissed him , AK never dissed Rory first.

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

Rory probably mentioned AK once and that was nuclear war for AK who went on a obsessed tired for months like a crazy ex bitch. I mean fair enough if you want to respond and call someone irrelevant but he was literally doing it for views at a certain point so how irrelevant are the people you’re talking to. I agree that this guy had a bias in favour of AK, joe ctg etc, he tried to be objective but it was obvious he doesn’t like Rory. Not to mention the guy himself is pretty fucking cringe but I think that’s the look he’s going for

[@LiotaR]

my god ever since Nicki called academiks a chipmunk I can't unsee it

[@Shadytribe97]

Does anyone else find it ironic that Ak keeps calling them “talentless” when he’s made a living off of bitching about the hip hop scene and making videos that still have the same production value almost 10 years later

[@erisgh0sted961]

@@LiberianHokage he literally made it off "the war in chiraq". He didn't just leech off others talent, he came up off the death of these young up coming artists, and didn't do so much as send flowers to these folks funerals. Tfoh.

[@stephencox8723]

@@erisgh0sted961 he mixed wendy willaims with the onion. that's like saying colbert leeched off of politics. and you can look at it as coming up off of young artists death. i see it differently. the way he covered the topics really highlighted how senseless and frequent the he violence was. hearing kanye call it the murder capital made me aware that people died, but having a chiraq grim reaper strike again is so absurd it's sobering. satire highlights the most absurd parts of a situation. If trans women are real women from brith Tank's correct sucking dick twice doesn't make you gay. It could be your girlfriends dick she hasn't gotten he surgery yet. (see how satire works?)

[@MMAOdin]

@@LiberianHokage his whole claim to fame is other rappers lol what are you talking about

[@jaccpot]

Unlike them ak has done something else beside ride Joe's coattails Also ak didn't make fun of other pols business acumen, like rury and mal did while being employees thinking they were bosses It's hard to feel bad for rory and mal cuz they made fun of akademiks and many other ppl...while they had no idea what the terms where being their own business

[@almightyinsane1794]

@@jaccpot ride his coattails lmfao you don’t pay attention at all Rory was apart of the podcast day 1 Mal stepped in before the 80th episode. They built the show.

[@Ocho1992]

AK calling Rory and Mal emotional while he literally cried on livestream over Desus and Mero 🤣

[@josebravo3979]

That part! Thats what I was thinking while that all went down haha

[@blazaybla22]

If Joe really was going “above and beyond” in paying them like he claimed, like pulling money from other ventures to pay them because the podcast wasn’t profitable enough, wouldn’t Joe have jumped at the chance to show them the real numbers? If they were really being overpaid compared to what their contract stipulated, then showing them the real numbers would’ve been the boss move and put them in their place as he was so obviously clawing to do.

[@williamblackfyre4866]

The easy answer is yes. The complicated answer is also yes. The length dude went through to hide his books can only mean one thing, he lied and underpaid them.

[@milehighgambler]

@@williamblackfyre4866 nothing but facts. Companies. CEOs, and stock brokers are always happy to show what they did "out of the goodness of their heart". Makes it a great PR move, and tax write-off at the end of the year

[@robindevily9182]

Exactly instead Joe tried to bribe them

[@lancerogers9694]

Idk Rory… yeah?

[@spoza72]

He showed them the real numbers ,they didn't believe them. When you are a worker you don't have access to that.

[@realtalk293]

if you have been following Joe Budden's podcast journey the fall of JBP would not have been a surprise. Like Charlemagne tha God said, Joe will always self implode

[@JECZ23]

We all knew Joe was gonna mess this up sooner or later. Joe is THAT guy.

[@jorgearias1324]

Joe always blows up everything that is good to him. Label deals, girls, internet forums, KZbin shows, podcasts. He can't have anything good. He will self implode before anything good happens

[@chadking8767]

Joe is an under-medicated looney

[@natethegreatreviews]

He fucked up slaughterhouse as well

[@jjcoola998]

Yeah that's his thing

[@travelreview5962]

Joe created the problems. Rory started the downfall, and Mal straight up finished the shit. Dude handled business.

[@k.o.o.p.a.]

Underrated comment

[@trtmuslimmcgregor4200]

Could you imagine if Mal was a venomous dude? He probably has the tools and information to destroy Joe's career and future brand-building to any successful level again, but he just doesn't move that way.

[@travelreview5962]

@@trtmuslimmcgregor4200 100%. It's even funnier because Joe loves to feel like he has the power, he's the one in charge... when in reality Mal could probably destroy him with a tweet and a fee screenshots.

[@travelreview5962]

@@k.o.o.p.a. appreciate it 👍👍👍

[@rjb1987xx]

Yea hats a fact mal a street dude he knows all of the skeletons joe has but I respect how he handled it joe a clown and lost a lot off listeners from this he showed his true colors shit money will tear whole brothers and sisters apart the only thing I wish is after all the cap Ak talked I hope mal see him and slaps the shit out off him

[@EKk8819]

You can tell Rory hated Joe but kept coming in trying to be the quirky white boy and collect a check, so cringe! How anyone watched this podcast without puking is beyond me.

[@Garf2O]

it had its moments, but it all depended on how good the topic was, and what kinda mood joe was in

[@deeluxe]

As a JBP fan, your intro had me WEAK 😂

[@KreepKarnage]

I am so glad somebody finally addressed this, especially TLR himself. this was a really bad move by Joe and it changed the way I looked at him and his speechs. Went from listening to them intently in the background at some of lowest points in my life to literally forgetting about them after the breakup. Bro did all that talking about "independence" and doing right by people yet turns around and does some fake industry snake shit. Shits sad af, mad respect to Rory and Mal for sticking to their morals no matter the risk

[@dpouch03]

Check dj akademiks take on it u might understand joe a bit more

[@b1slee267]

@@dpouch03 why we need to check out all when we see and been seeing how Joe moved for years. Of course ak gon do damage control at that. Joe ain’t right t

[@MotorCityMob]

For real 100%.. Mad respect to Rory and Mal

[@acelowe260]

Mal is not the nigga yall giving him credit for lol but shout out to rory and joe

[@stansmith5610]

Yall mad reaching cause yall feel bad for rory and mal. Believe me a year from now joe is going to have more listeners and rory and mals hype will die down.

[@IntelligentAj1]

Everything laid out chronologically makes this look even more damning 😂

[@MrClbrown33]

Btw, Joe Rogan left Spotify for the same reason Joe Budden did and is also thriving in his own space. You are doing biased reporting here lol

[@WholeSomeHomie]

Cope

[@pattyweston-mg8kz]

​@WholeSomeHomie imagine watching trap lore ross thinking you superior to anyone then having the nuts to say cope lmao

[@WholeSomeHomie]

@@pattyweston-mg8kz guess who you're watching