The embarrassment that is Silent Hill: The Short Message

[@underthemayo]

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[@brandon221234]

That’s too bad, it’s an excellent video. I shared it in all the silent hill fan groups I’m in on FB. 🙂

[@underthemayo]

Thanks. You'll have to update the link cause the old one is gone. @@brandon221234

[@energeticyellow1637]

What scene?

[@derekb4977]

​@@underthemayo we need team silent back under bokeh games studio, silent hill 5 and retcon everything after 4 the room, and konami need to hire the enhanced edition team to get the games available on consoles. Let's protect silent hill from the crazy RE remake fans.

[@r1ch1o24]

Great video man

[@chris_player2995]

Bad Ending : No followers

[@andrewcarroll3722]

Dog Ending: A dog poops on your phone.

[@benturner3458]

Escape Ending: manage to hard reset the game without pushing the reset button

[@QueenSydon]

UFO Ending: Harry, James, and their alien friends nuke Silent Hill again just to make sure

[@SirPigmund]

It's trauma

[@karljohan2300]

silent hill posted cringe and main character lost subscriber

[@tovahwulf]

I got a migraine when the document was read on them turning Silent Hill into a psych-based nightmare rather than AN ACTUAL PLACE AND ACTUAL FOG.

[@tovahwulf]

Also, theory, could SH2 might've gone on at the same time as SH3? Cause the body in the chair looks exactly like Henry when he's found by Heather.

[@Gabbagool86]

@@tovahwulf Henry Townsend? Or did you mean Harry? Could of just being a reused asset they dressed in Harry's clothes.

[@balthazor44]

​@@tovahwulfno, not unless SH is a place outside of normal time, which I suppose is entirely possible. But beyond that, SH3 is supposed to take place roughly around the time the game released, and while there's some mystery and disagreement about the SH2 time frame, Masahiro Ito tweeted that SH2 takes place in the late 70s or early 80s. Which would be why there is a computer seen in Brookhaven Hospital in SH3 but no computers at all are seen in SH2. Naturally, it's all very open to interpretation, but based on the information available, outside of some strange time warp scenario, there's little chance of SH2 and SH3 taking place at the same time.

[@KafkaShoppe]

I feel like they want to get away from that tbh. All of this stuff was always meant to be metaphorical. Ya’ll need all the games to connect like it is the gd MCU when a lot of the stuff is figurative storytelling meant to explore an artistic concept. The lore is not the point.

[@KafkaShoppe]

@@balthazor44Ito also gets pissed if you ask him about the other games and in that same thread more or less implied they aren’t meant to connect and other people worked on them.

[@hieunguyenrileygekko]

remember back when indie games still tried to imitate Silent Hill ? now its the other way around

[@TheBatman39]

One indie horror game that caught my attention was Darkwood. It doesn't have much resemblance to Silent Hill, but it's a really good horror 5 it's an indie project made by a small studio. Meanwhile, Konami is imitating the indie games made for and by Tumblr people. However, I'm hopeful that more indie developers will start to rise up and create good horror games that could have the magic that made Silent Hill so special.

[@Speed4Runs]

The menu really does look very indieish

[@LosMSR]

@@TheBatman39 That happen when a saga isn't doing nothing, and just work as inspiration for other games, eventually the return will feel like a copy, lol.

[@tobiasmattsson9285]

​@@TheBatman39 Holy shit I wasn't expecting to see anyone talk about Darkwood here What an amazing game tho

[@MetalHeartGunner]

And those indie games often times worked somewhat, this doesn't lmao

[@tetrorisvolto]

I find it funny that it's supposed to be set in Germany, but every environment looks like it's out of an American movie, the school doesn't look like any European school i've seen for example, it looks like an American one. Why even use Germany and not Silent Hill or some nearby place like in Silent Hill 4, if they wanted everything to look American anyway?

[@OperatorMax1993]

i know right ? what a waste. i said this before but i'll say it again, to me Silent Hill 4 worked because there was also Walter Sullivan who was connected to the Order and had otherworldly powers like Alessa

[@DEPORT_nonWhites_or_KILL_them]

It's set in Germany? it's even more antiwhite then given the German-erasure in the character cast. Honestly disgusting.

[@udopadrik9971]

Comments like these here make me question how many people actually played or understood anything about the original Silent Hill games or mind-trippy horror at all. People bringing the lore into it in some "but this way the cult should be connected with that and that would explain this" seem to be especially out of it. One of the key aspects of the original Silent Hill games was that the town meant different things in the context of different stories. Even Silent Hill 1 and 3 could be happening in completely different universes, because the material reality of this world is not what is important, it is the stories, the emotion, the musical and visual elements, the mechanisms of fear that connect them, and especially the exploration of darkness within the player, not some characters in a horror context. This game is the first true Silent Hill title (aside from P.T) since "Silent Hill 4: The Room", because it knows it is not the specific town, Pyramid Head or the cult that are holding this series together. This game explains the title in one way, the next the other. Silent Hill games should never become this safe family-friendly sitcom-tv series type of predictable and comfortable stuff with returning characters ("Here's Pyramid Head and the cult again") these supposed "fans" seem to be pushing it towards. What the town is about has been up in the air since the first game. People fixated on some specific one thing ("It's hell", "It's about the cult") are not getting it. It's meant to be up in the air, just as Twin Peaks the TV-series or other David Lynch movies. That's what separates it from other safer by-the numbers horror like Resident Evil.

[@tetrorisvolto]

@@udopadrik9971You're barking at the wrong tree, as I've always maintained that Silent Hill as a franchise should be put to rest altogether, exactly because i don't care about fan service at all. You don't need Silent Hill to create psychological or metaphorical horror, it existed before it, and it exists still after it. If you do slap the brand "Silent Hill" on the cover, i think it's fair to ask: Why? The only thing tying the first 4 together was the titular town, a vague notion that trauma molded the horrors, and some loose lore connective tissue. There's nothing unique to Silent Hill in the idea that a character goes through a metaphorical journey through hell, to get over a trauma. My comment, anyway, focused exactly on their unwillingness to engage with their new setting (Germany) in any culturally or even aesthetically significant way, making it particularly anonymous.

[@udopadrik9971]

​@isvoltoWell, it is quite common opinion that psychological horror reached its highest form in the original four Silent Hill games, and although there have been good horror games before and since I'd agree nothing I've come to contact with has reached the level. Simple fan-service would be quite hard for me to accept, but the continuation of the story-telling, the ideas, mechanics, underlying concepts I find could result in amazing results, because aside from a few successful things horror game creators seem to have been as headless chicken in the following years, not really coming up with anything as significant as the Silent Hill series sort of promised, and seem to have mostly only forgotten stuff achieved in those. Now, when anyone with artistic talent has revisited those and drawn new inspiration from them it has given a surge or energy to horror game development and mechanics in general. I'm not only thinking "P.T" and the cancelled "Silent Hills" project, which sort of gave a basis fora wave of indie titles and the new Resident Evil games to happen that have now been following the Silent Hill games in many aspects, I'm also thinking the From Software games. Even if those are not in any way officially inspired by Silent Hill games, they are very much drawing from a lot of the things that had before them reached their high point in Silent Hill games. I would totally agree with you if horror game developers showed some capacity of following some ideas as ambitious as in the original Silent Hills or connected with the mostly failed Kojima reboot (P.T definitely was not a remake). Because of that I say the Silent Hill brand as a slight link to the past that could actually give some potential innovation in connected genres. The game not doing something specific to Germany I see as no problem at all. These games thrive in being universal in some way, not giving a "realistic" representation connected to some setting. The first games taking place in America had very little importance. It was slightly "off" representation of American, and the games benefited from it instead of being hurt by it. This is also true of this new one in connection to taking place in some fictional form of Germany, just as David Lynch's "Inland Empire" scenes in Poland were never meant to give off any "realistic" aspects about life in Poland. Hoping for something like that in "non-realistic" fiction seems misguided and missing the point.

[@jayros4269]

Navigating an abandoned building by using your cellphone as a flashlight makes me wish I was playing Cry of Fear.

[@minimimimaxiboy1]

If there is another game that would be all the way up with and worthy of the Silent Hill franchise name, Cry of Fear is it lol.

[@DUSKPIT]

But this game actually looks more like Daylight (2014 ue4 cellphone-wielding horror game). I wish we'd have full fledged CoF Remake =(

[@pyromax6742]

or dread out

[@fojisan2398]

A much, much better game

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

It's basically Life is Strange in a horror setting.

[@CadenceDavis-iz8nq]

Bro the irony of this material being "too intense" through KZbin is wild. The world would not be ready for a true SH2 remake

[@MeatSim64]

This world is too sensitive nowadays. They couldn't handle it. 100% they're gonna change it for "modern audiences" mark my words

[@Andriej69]

@@MeatSim64 Agreed, it was obvious since the first trailer. I hope to everything that is holy the SH2 Remake bombs completely, or Pooper Team will get to shit on SH1 and SH3 too

[@linezgames3893]

WE DONT NEED SH2 REMAKE... STOP with remakes/remasters/reboots... Leave gold the way it is ok..

[@JF-vz1ju]

@@linezgames3893 I've been saying this for a while now. All remakes and remasters do is give publishers and devs opportunities to fuck something up. Just look at Demon's Souls and FF7R. Ports are the way to go and the only real way to preserve games.

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

Can't have nice things in a overly sensitive world now. That's why it gets so boring quick.

[@RustyJoe117]

I hate that Konomi is slapping the Silent Hill on any horror game that isn't silent hill.

[@irritablerodent]

Its the classic de-mystification problem, the more you explain it, the dumber and less spooky it is.

[@ExpertContrarian]

The main problem is the retcon not “demystification.” That already happened long ago

[@tryarie1970]

@@ExpertContrarian Yeah but them putting an article in the game explaining the "Silent Hill" as an observed phenomenon around the world with eye witneses pretty much kills off the mystery.

[@Ghost7065]

It's more like the worse the explanation, the worse it gets. Silent Hill Phenomenon makes no sense.

[@donaldhysa4836]

"I lost followers...again." Are we... are we supposed to be sympathizing with that? xD

[@vanilla.icescream]

IKR?! that scene gives me brain aneurysm

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

Losing followers in social media is about the least problematic thing for any sane person.

[@jayros4269]

Silent Hill: First World Problems

[@lukaszzylik4437]

​@@mr.sinjin-smythand yet real people have commited suicide over clout and being unpopular online. I haven't played The Short Message but i dont mind a game about social media and its parasitic relationship with mental health. It could make a good SH game. Theres already been a SH character who was bullied.

[@xergoan1927]

Why the hell would anyone put that line in a horror game unless they want to add comedy?

[@johnathanross6519]

The teenage angst lost me, then again, I haven't been a part of that demographic since 2006. So, of course, it didn't resonate with me. But the original SH trilogy didn't need teenage angst to draw me in either. That's why I think representation and being relatable are such regurgitated excuses for mediocrity when it comes to writing. Besides, it's not really a SH game. It's just marketing the name.

[@strangeeric9760]

My favorite part was when the japanese girl said "Das ist trauming zeit" and silenthilled around the room

[@Gabbagool86]

i liked the part where Sakura head punished the fuck out of all the trauma! Such a fresh take on the series!

[@WonderlandSnack]

@@Gabbagool86but she wasn’t punishing the main character. Did everybody miss the point of the ending!? Cherry blossom represented the main characters own self judgement, and also represented an avenue of freeing herself. It was cherry blossoms artbook that finally pushed the main character to feel seen, and that was also what saved her in the end. It wasn’t just a brain dead take on pyramid head. They represented completely different things, and different aspects of the psyche

[@elow3398]

😂

[@elow3398]

​@@WonderlandSnack once again, doesn't matter. Everything you and the game has just described has nothing to do with silent hills story her backstory. The narrative of the game is good, but under a different name of a game series other than silent Hill. This game sucked, through and through because I had nothing to do with silent Hill....

[@WonderlandSnack]

@@elow3398 it literally did though, it played on the same themes of being a reflection of the characters psyche, and it pulled on those cultish themes of silent hill as well. Just because they adapted the themes to fit a new take on silent hill doesn’t mean it isn’t silent hill. If they tried to do more with the original silent hill stories people would just complain how they can’t do anything new and just keep rehashing the old stuff. The only downsides this game had to stop it from comparing to previous silent hill games as well was how short it was, and how limited the gameplay/puzzles were. Over all, it was a good silent hill story. Are you gonna cry when silent hill F takes place in Japan has more to do with Japanese cultural phenomena? God forbid they expand the IP and give it more variety.

[@shawklan27]

If the life is strange devs made a silent hill game. This would be it

[@linezgames3893]

Soooo shit game.. Kk

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

Basing my experience playing 1st Life is Strange, this is likely how Max would react in a horror setting.

[@tobiyoarcangel]

But you play as Max or any of queen bitch's clique (forgot her name) instead of Kate, Rachel or maybe Chloe if she was less dense

[@squirrelsyrup1921]

@@mr.sinjin-smyth Supermax was great, it's a shame she was bogged down with the company of a blue-haired psycho, remorseless murdering, foul-mouthed brat. It's a shame that every game protagoaonist nowadays has to be followed by one of those.

[@AleatoricSatan]

To be honest it's not a bad idea. This is just not what we want from Silent Hill, but if it was a standalone game unrelated to Silent Hill it wouldn't be receiving such harsh criticism. The people who don't like this type of games would skip it, and the game would find its place among tge edgy teen crowd and could even flourish. Konami blew it by branding it as silent hill. Perhaps they could brand it as "a silent hill inspired story" if they wanted to utilize the SH brand and fame without tainting it.

[@AvalancheReviews]

HAAAA! I never noticed the music tracks fading out and then restarting like that. That's hilarious!

[@residentgrigo4701]

The game´s tech is a joke. The assets are mostly good but the framerate and audio design are PS3 era relics.

[@666ok]

[_]

[@Andriej69]

@@residentgrigo4701 "tech" is a big word, this was likely some vanity project by one of the highier-up's kid or something, fruit of nepotism (or that's just my cope). Good thing someone at Konami had enough sense to just drop it like a runny turd for the price of zero, so it gets forgotten quickly

[@sethwheeler8836]

AVALANCHE

[@adam4vik938]

I knew I was missing someone's review of this one. Glad to see you're still interested in SH and can't wait for the inevitable review of the SH2 remake.

[@OnlyWaifuYT]

Thanks for this video. Everything related Silent Hill nowadays just makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. People either don't see the issues, they don't care, or they get extremely defensive. I feel like I'm living in a dystopia.

[@underthemayo]

We've reached the point where you're called an elitist nostalgia blinded fanboy for saying things like "the fog is not imaginary" and "the power of the town causes the events to happen".

[@weirdo3116]

the tru dystopia

[@Peasham]

I had someone cape for ASCENSION of all things, it is incredibly funny.

[@cookiedoodle5582]

Why would doctors even call it the Silent Hill Phenomenon? All people hallucinate is the fog, right? And it's also happening all across the world apparently. Not like Silent Hill is the only place with fog. Wouldn't they call it something like the Fog Phenomenon?

[@Leavinsies]

One of the biggest problems is how the characters seem like they're written as 14 year olds. But the problem is, they are college age.

[@WonderlandSnack]

They’re like 17-18 getting ready to leave for college, and clearly emotionally stunted from their trauma. Some of the dialogue was cringey and on the nose, but that’s also like very on brand for teenagers.

[@charlottecorday8494]

That's actually the most realistic part of the game. Have you MET any college students nowadays? My seven year old is more mentally mature and stable than they are.

[@Jimov]

I hate it when these Netflix-esq brain rotted writers take a beloved franchise with a pre-existing lore and just decide to unravel it all and take a shit on it and on loyal fans. So damn insulting.

[@ARStudios2000]

What I find so amusing is the fog part. The fog was just...fog. Literally, it was arguably the most normal part of the town, and they somehow spun THAT into some bullshit too.

[@Jimov]

@@ARStudios2000 😂 exactly! They have no idea. They probably never even played a single Silent Hill game.

[@KafkaShoppe]

I hate when fans that don’t understand metaphor and other writing principles try to MCU a franchise when the creators of the games themselves said they were never supposed to connect. The lore is *flavor text and Easter eggs* not the point of what you are supposed to be experiencing.

[@KafkaShoppe]

@@Jimovliterally the closest thing we’ve had to the original team in some time.

[@ColdFear6666]

This game is more Silent Hill than any Silent Hill titled game after SH4.

[@LA.20]

They are not satisfied on cancelling P.T., they really want to kill the series. I can't man, it hurts.

[@Torthrodhel]

I really think it was for the best with PT, staying as an enticing little demo. Can you imagine Kojima's wacky product placement in the middle of a Silent Hill story? You know he would've gone for it, come on now. He wasn't the guy for the job, and it's actually better that we never found that out. I watched a playthrough of Death Stranding, the big toy he mentions in PT as bringing to the table. Did you? Great intimate moments of small-scale personal subjects acted beautifully but not interconnected much, between characters with stupid names and confused motivations, ruined by "cheeky" comedy nonsense, jobs-for-mates cameos and most of all, bewilderingly bad big-scale philosophical bollocks, in a world that doesn't make sense. With a genuinely impressive innovative carrying system that'd do a lot better in a game that took itself a lot less seriously. I don't want that in Silent Hill thanks. PT is decent for what it is, but overrated, and not very Silent Hill at all. Sure it would've been better than a lot of other stuff that did get made. But why's that a standard? I think this has become a pin for hopes more than it ever was a realistic prospect.

[@LA.20]

@@Torthrodhel Tell me how you don't know what Silent hill really speaks here. You yapped a fuck ton of sentences without making a single sense. Good day to you lmao

[@Torthrodhel]

@@LA.20 I yapped a ton of sentences without making a single sense? Maybe Kojima inspired me to do that, lol. Look I don't hate the guy and he can do some amazing things. I'm just saying that, by the evidence of the game he made instead that PT deliberately makes reference to (quote: "I'll be back, and I'm bringing my new toys with me"), this would've been a complete mess of a Silent Hill game that didn't fit the tone at all. I have a few guesses for you. My first is that you never played through (or even watched through) PT. My second is that you never did the same thing for Death Stranding. I know that it's a different game, but it was still his response to getting fired from PT. It's full of monster energy drink close-ups, it's full of dumb comedic moments that don't work, some of the serious dialogue in emotional moments is some of the most embarrassing stuff ever put to video game (take the running along the beach scene where the main character compares himself to Mario), the plot makes no sense, the villain has no motivation or logic, the combat sequences are exciting enough but don't feel like they add anything and get old fast. It doesn't know whether it wants to be a walking/carrying simulator, or an epic adventure game, and gets stuck in a really awkward place between both. Characters are called things like DieHardMan and Fragile. What the hell is that. Forgive me for supposing that someone who handles a game like that, might not be the perfect choice for Silent Hill. It's still a shame that he never got to try, and it was still shit what Konami did to him. But the only reason people think they missed out on a masterpiece, was that we never got the masterpiece. I don't think it would've been a masterpiece. I don't think it would've been very good at all. Better than a pachinko machine? Absolutely, no doubt about it. A decent enough game by itself? Much like some of the outsourced entries before, maybe so. But a good Silent Hill game? No. People are kidding themselves.

[@protato911]

​@@Torthrodhelalthough we didn't see him fully make a Silent Hill game, we do see what his involvement did to Castlevania, those 2 games did a lot of dmg to the IP. The guy is good at designing gameplay and how to frame cinematic, but not the best writer nor story teller in the industry, not even close and MSG games are as good as they are mostly because there are people who help him with his shortcomings. As soon as he gains full control and lets his ego run wild, we get MGS4, MGS5 and of course, Death Stranding. That said, I'm not saying he's bad at his job nor is he completely talentless, just that he got his short coming and strong suit and shouldn't be viewed as someone that did no wrong.

[@Torthrodhel]

@@protato911 yeah, I picture myself the same way honestly, if I got the budget and team to make something similar. I'd be great at some things, and definitely need help with others. I'd be the same sort of auteur "I have a vision" type, and would be drawn to the same degree of freedom, but I know my shortcomings too. It's that familiarity that makes it so clear to see in his work. Maybe that's a part of the luxury of not being successful - you have plenty of space for self-reflection (although in my case in a different field). I didn't know about him doing Castlevania games, sorry to hear those went badly then, sounds like a shame.

[@doomslayer9138]

I knew when this game leaked it would be about a teenager who is bullied

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

It's basically Life is Strange in a horror setting.

[@highwind9984]

nice of Silent Hill have so many themes from other games, real originality

[@12ealDealOfficial]

Bullying has been a thing since caveman times. It's just that this generation has the least backbone of any prior because contemporary life has made people too damn soft, dumb, and narcissistic. In not too distant times, you had to worry about being conscripted into war, enslaved, rounded up by an invading army or roaming band of thieves, have your entire tribe whiped out by disease and famine, etc. now it's "I'm not getting enough validation and this is the world ending crisis of my time."

[@TechnoRap64]

​he original first 2 sh games had ideas from other games and media so what are you talking about you annoying overly privileged crybaby?

[@orionlax626]

​@@mr.sinjin-smyth Life is Strange isn't just about bullying, and it's actually good.

[@tryarie1970]

Their idea of reintroducing "Silent Hill" as an observable phenomenon around the world with statistics and eye witneses is pretty stupid. They basically went and killed the mystery itself.

[@DeadpoolX9]

"LIKE MY TWEETS OR I KILL MYSELF"-the game "in a little while from now if I'm not feeling any less sour I promise myself to treat myself and visit a nearby tower And climbing to the top will throw myself off in an effort to make clear to who ever what its like when you're shattered left standing in the lurch at a church where people are saying my gods thats tough she stood him up no point in us remaining we may as well go home as I did on my own Alone again Naturally :)"

[@SoBor911]

They set the game in Germany, but with no actual Germans. Sure makes a lot of sense.

[@charles___]

@@MemesisHonestly its Sad

[@JustFun-ho6qy]

They could have used a vaguely German looking school at least. And all those German names are pure anime bullshit too. Something I usually think is funny or even charming in an anime setting but feels horribly off in a setting that goes for realism.

[@TechnoRap64]

Cry some more

[@chrisdiokno5600]

How so, name wise I mean? Also TBF, even Western works tend to go for vaguely German sounding@@JustFun-ho6qy

[@nexxus2614]

If you got the German passport, then you're German. And that's the end of it. Don't exclude people just because of the way they look like. Our genes don't give a crap what we want to call ourselves.

[@moures6928]

"Are you okay mayo?" part was amazing

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Yeah but IS HE OK THO

[@CKVampyre]

Mocking depression isn't funny

[@Streifen1911]

@@CKVampyreThat’s what makes it funny. We know it’s a joke. Most down people use dark humor to laugh anyways. Take a damn joke

[@georgekostaras]

This thing was free to play and I still felt robbed

[@Jackie_Fhan]

it isn't that bad

[@HydroZX]

People will complain about anything nowadays.

[@standingontheshouldersofgi5876]

Grow a pair of balls

[@CereDulce37]

This is a free game bruh. Plus it's not a mainline game, silent hill 2 is getting remade, so its not like this will be the only silent hill in existence from now on, and that game is well received. This game has its bad moments but for a free game and it's message, although probably could've been conveyed better, it wasn't as bad as people are making it seem.

[@CereDulce37]

​@NikZedong .

[@sukamadik5983]

I'm going through this video for a second time which is twice as many times as I'll ever go through Tumblr Hills.

[@sukamadik5983]

I'm honored that my comment was used as the opening of the video. I'm just sad KZbin bullied this video into self deletion off the KZbin algorithm rooftop.

[@underthemayo]

You've hit the big time!

[@sukamadik5983]

@@underthemayo I'm definitely in the Mayo leagues now 💪😎👍

[@chris_player2995]

​@@sukamadik5983you are on a roll 😅

[@jonesygrets6029]

When she threw herself off the building for the first time I thought thank f^*% that’s over

[@prodby.blackwhite]

Silent hill died after sh4 the room. But its still alive in our hearts and minds.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

To many hardcore fans it was after 3

[@heywoodjablome2767]

​@carlosaugusto9821 For all of the hate SH4 The Room got from diehard fans, it's still a helluva lot better than all the SH games that came after it. One of the main problem with SH4 was that it was not a true Silent Hill game and should have just been a completely separate and independent IP of its own rather than have the "Silent Hill" name slapped onto it.

[@robbiea5040]

Silent Hill 4 actually had pretty good story. Walter sulivan was also a very good villain.

[@tryarie1970]

for me it's after the death of P.T

[@LosMSR]

SH4 destroyed the team silent, so no.

[@scolioreset]

“Silent Hill Phenomenon” Okay, so… they turned the whole mystical aspect and possible reality of the town into a syndrome or a sickness. To me, this just downplays the reality of mental illness. The level of narcissism from that character losing followers or not gaining enough of them… If that was just “The Short Message”, it could have worked. But nope!

[@Gabbagool86]

If the that was the short message i would hate the read the long one

[@LosMSR]

That's false info, the real concept is beneath that, the witch is similar to Walter Sullivan, she was the source of events, fake doctors papers are always part of SH, in SH2 the doctor said to James that he saw the red thing too, these papers are info from the protagonist, bc that's the power of the town messed up the mind of the protagonist.

[@rabbadidi7385]

I just finished playing this game and found this video , this game left me feeling like i missed something. The end of the first chapter had me saying "oh, this is for gen z huh?". As a long time fan of the silent hill franchise and someone who has lost a family member to suicide in recent years as well as had attempts myself this game felt insulting and condescending.

[@kuso7558]

You saying "oh, this is for gen z huh?" shows you're not the target audience for this game. It may have been a while since you've been in school, but the issues tackled in this game are accurate to what people my age are going through. I just graduated school going into psychology with a family history in the field and the younger generations have been drawn to suicide by these issues. Look up studies on social media induced anxiety/depression. Different generations go through different issues and this game is mostly accurate in how it depicts trauma and jealousy. This games issues are the boring gameplay and the culture mismatch, but for 2 hours of gameplay its not too big of an issue. For someone who grew up in a time where this kind of mentality is commonplace its a good story.

[@rabbadidi7385]

@@kuso7558 as someone with severe ptsd, depression, anxiety, autism and adhd this game missed the mark on all accounts. Many games have handled these themes before far better. This game felt dumbed down and pestering.

[@kuso7558]

@@rabbadidi7385Literally everything you said you had lies in a spectrum. Your experience is not the definitive mental illness experience. This game isnt telling a story for middle aged people its an account on what someone who gets no validation in a generation where validation is everything have experienced. This game just isnt silent hill and the cringeyness of the plot is a side effect of the cast being all teenagers. The mass majority of teenagers are cringey.

[@rabbadidi7385]

@kuso7558 I'm not middle age. I was a teenager not long ago and not all of us were cringy. This game handles everything poorly. Sometimes a crappy game is just a crappy game.

[@doomenthusiast]

“A band is still a band, not a fucking hot dog stand” BARS

[@underthemayo]

yeah i could have done something with the rhyme.

[@OperatorMax1993]

Mayo channeled his inner Doctor Seuss

[@Torthrodhel]

It's not a band any more, now it's a curated box of snacks.

[@Streifen1911]

Mayo on the mic!

[@JorgeLTE]

Feels like if the studios were competing for who fucks up their ips harder

[@RacingSnails64]

You put it into words. This is so how it feels right now.

[@PenguinDT]

TBH, I think Konami is nowhere near the lead. Their new retro stuff is actually good, most likely because they've managed to partner with the right people. Even the MGS one wasn't a trainwreck, just 'meh'. The real battle is fought between Embracer, Ubisoft and Microsoft.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Konami is the undisputed King for multiple decades now

[@KBXband]

I hate when characters state menial info o obvious stuff. one reason I hate the paranormal activity movies is because in one scene in the garage the girls being choked by carbon monoxide and she actually says "I can't breathe" like DUH YOURE AN ACTRESS. CONVINCE US WITHOUT SAYING IT

[@Vinicius_Berger]

Silent Hill: The Short Message has a great story full of unexpected events and a surprising ending... if you're a 13 year old girl. For literally anybody else, SH:TSM is one of the most shallow, boring and infuriating "games" ever made. I honestly lost count of how many times I rolled my eyes and said "really?" or "seriously?" when something dumb/predictable happened in this "game". My cousin was next to me and he kept laughing at any time something idiotic was happening.

[@Fedor_Kisliakov]

The mishandling of this IP is fucking legendary. Even MGS 3 on Pachinko is not as pathetic as this.

[@Mazgid]

We still got 4 games in future, let's goooo

[@ShutchyerLips]

Reminds me of "you don't piss on hospitality!"

[@jacquelineess1141]

Please don't talk about the patchinko abominations...it still hurts 😢

[@PenguinDT]

Who is responsible for this big budget 'Silent Hill revival tour'? Some lobotomite? It's already two massive strikes in a row and these are supposed to be the big 'hype builders' for the big games in the pipeline. I'm asking, because the other stuff Konami is up to right now are really good (helping release good indie games like Skelattack, doing great re-releases of classics with Limited Run Games and some excellent retro sequels with the likes of Wayforward). It's like night and day.

[@rattat1186]

I have lots of teenagers in my family, and I can assure you that not a damn one of them is worried about their Instagram followers...

[@AlphaAlarmClock]

It wasn't just about the followers if you paid attention to the game instead of whatever crap this man is spewing

[@Allgloss312]

A lot of teenagers do though. Not every teen is terminally online but for those that are, its become a super toxic mentally scarring thing. Theres so much to be said about social media in fictional narratives, but i just find that usually when stories try to make commentary on the negatives of social media it ends up overly simplified and too damn preachy, which is a shame because i feel like theres so much to be said on the topic.

[@blumiu2426]

@@Allgloss312 I'd have no idea by looking at it lol

[@tylerfuller-battles8370]

@@blumiu2426 It's about the desire to be liked, to be seen and looked up to and appreciated. A lot of teenagers are very insecure about their image, and modern things like having followers or "friends" are typically unconscious coping mechanisms used to get through life.

[@blumiu2426]

@@tylerfuller-battles8370 It's hardly subconscious at this point when we have insecurity, vanity and entitlement as a predominant trait in newer generations. They are very conscious of it when they point out these flaws in others yet exclude themselves despite most conversations and bonding points being these commonalities. What was in a allergic number of Millinials is the norm with Gen Z

[@stevekjr9563]

Yeesh. Even this video wants to self-delete after talking about this game. What an absolute disaster they've turned this IP in to.

[@TheCyclicGamer]

Best to leave things dead with honor than alive with shame.

[@christopherlynch7728]

😂

[@markcobuzzi826]

Not to mention, I have seen this video’s comment section appear to temporarily turn itself off at least twice, as of now.

[@Andriej69]

... and yet they just refuse to fucking stop

[@respectable-username]

maybe if the game had a few more trigger warnings the video wouldntve deleted itself :[

[@aaronjarvis-1994]

I guess Cybil was mentally traumatised too as she could see the fog in the original Silent Hill. She even says "I only caught a glimpse of her in the fog" as she tells Harry how she thinks she saw Cheryl.

[@underthemayo]

Yup. Her and Harry were both suffering mental trauma!

[@miquebts]

Imagine the trauma of losing followers in fotolog or whatever we had back then 😢

[@WonderlandSnack]

@@miquebtsit wasn’t about the followers bro, I bet you complain the story lacked subtlety when you clearly didn’t understand it.

[@DeadPixel1105]

As soon as I saw a picture of the protagonist, I knew exactly what kind of experience 'The Short Message' is. I didn't even know the plot, setting, etc. Her appearance alone revealed all.

[@ajaxrao6042]

To call this game a Silent Hill game is like calling Final Fantasy: The Spirit Within a Final Fantasy movie.

[@The_VanDal]

Sad to hear the video got taken down. Time for a rewatch, review's great so idm. Fr tho, i'm so tired of devs trying vainly to recreate Silent Hill 2 post SH4, as if it's the only game in the whole franchise. Why not try to extend on the town's lore or something like that instead ? The devs don't even understand the franchise they are working on

[@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318]

Im glad im not the only one who thought this "game" was trash. Its the literal manifestation of that "ITS TRAUMA" meme turned into a boring walking simulator.

[@OnlyWaifuYT]

DUDE I'VE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING LOL

[@DCGloto]

Silent Hill Phenomenon - a global form of mass hysteria where people from non-cohesive groups exhibit a series of symptoms. Some of which are, but not limited to: - delusions - depressive episodes (sadness, anger or irritability, anhedonia) - manic episodes - difficulties with impulse control - hostility towards others affected by SHP

[@CaveyMoth]

The causes: -sexual frustration -being circumcised

[@DeadpoolX9]

@@CaveyMoth fackin looooool even the females looooool

[@StCerberusEngel]

@@CaveyMoth -the illuminati

[@bakacdaz]

Sound like Hinamisawa Syndrome from Higurashi.

[@arkayuh41]

@@CaveyMoth -having a significant other diagnosed with a terminal illness

[@Lumberjack_Linnie]

The subtelty ended the moment I saw the name Kettenstadt in your review. Translated it would be Chain City. She feels imprisoned, not free? In a town called Chain City? Totally creative and subtle. /s

[@IndranilRC]

Yeah, not subtle cuz everyone knows German, right?

[@Lumberjack_Linnie]

@@IndranilRC Okay, Chain City would be subtle as hell, according to you, because not every living person speaks English. Got it. I will make a game and call it "Suicide is bad, do not do it". Maybe some will get the hidden message.

[@IndranilRC]

@@Lumberjack_Linnie Most people playing videogames speak English. Can't believe you are comparing the two languages...

[@Lumberjack_Linnie]

@@IndranilRC There is something called exaggeration. Ever heard of it? Maybe it was too subtle. No wonder you're arguing with me about that.

[@IndranilRC]

@@Lumberjack_Linnie Even if it was exaggeration, your point made no sense.

[@highwind9984]

And yet, many peoples still defending it and say it's good game It make me real sad to such community to let greedy company do whatever they want to let such a good classic title be tarnished

[@YuYu-gx9xu]

Perhaps a okay game if it's not under Silent Hill name In term of story, there is other indie horror game like Detention done it far more better than this one in my opinion

[@highwind9984]

It's like they just copy whatever successful element from other game and make it their own, then naming it Silent Hill, then milking it, though it's free I know

[@heywoodjablome2767]

The sad thing is it isn't just the Silent Hill fanbase that sold out but most gamers in general as the reason why video games have been gradually declining in quality for the past 10+ years is because of 10+ years of gamers being too spineless to gatekeep their hobbies or fanbases of their favorite franchises. Now, with how much of a dumpster fire most video games have become, gamers now get the industry they deserve.

[@robnhood1416]

Mostly younger gamers who never actually play those old games in first place. Its the same with Zelda fandom. For many of them, BOTW is the first game so they're not going to care much about the older Zelda games lore.

[@ghostgrimmm]

Everything that happens in Silent Hill is related to 3 things, the town's spiritual power, Alessa's psychic powers, and the cult doings. The reason things happen the way they for in SH2 is because Alessa triggered the nightmare and it still lingering even after she was gone, so its all related, even if people don't care for the cult and the stories of 1,3,4, they directly affect sh2. In other words, they can absolutely come up with new ideas and new characters if the basic principles are uphold. The nightmares gotta be triggered by these combined aspects. If they want a new town to have nightmares, they don't necessarily need Alessa, but they need someone like her to be able to trigger a new nightmare in a new place with spiritual power. The original nightmare was triggered because the cult wanted to birth a demon and everything went to shit, meaning you gotta have someone actively trying to do some occult stuff, and a cult would make sense. But nobody wants to touch that cult because sh2 is the only game without a cult and its "the only good game" so that means cult=bad. There's absolutely thousands of ways to make things work for the future but they have to execute it well and in order for it to make sense in the already established universe, you gotta have those 3 aspects in the story in my humble opinion: spiritual town, person with psychic abilities, and occultism, even if they are not the main characters. Even if we only learn about these through notes and stuff like that. But we have to learn them. Because the universe was well established around Alessa and Silent Hill itself, if we depart from them, we need to know what the hell is going on, even if its vague, subtle and mysterious (Which it should always be subtle, something they haven't been in a while.)

[@lukaszzylik4437]

Ehhh.... I dunno. I personally think the Samael through line is corny as fuck so i dont mind the hand waiving. Samael did it, that's good enough for me. Hell they took a generic ghost story in P.T and turned it into a Silent Hill game.

[@Gabbagool86]

@@lukaszzylik4437 The Dark God is not just a through line it is THE through line! the cult used the spiritual power around the town and the power of the psychic girl to birth their Dark God. Everything after that all the happenings through out the later games are a direct result of that event. Silent Hill 2 alludes to the towns dark past multiple times so it wasn't forgotten the story just didn't need to emphasis it as the focus was that of a more personal horror. Didn't use the name Samael because it's just another word for the Devil which is what the Dark God was.

[@balthazor44]

​@@Gabbagool86except that Masahiro Ito has said that SH2 was set in the late 70s or early 80s, and definitely not in the 90s. Which would put SH2 before the events of SH1. Personally, I think it's made pretty clear that the power in this town goes back a long way, and the cult uses this power to try and birth their god. But I think the notion that everything that happens with this town is the result of the cult and Alessa is simplistic and, frankly, just plain wrong. But, obviously, much is left open to interpretation.

[@Gabbagool86]

@@balthazor44 Doesn't matter you think that way i just follow the games and direct in game information as well as quotes from Team Silent members who worked directly on the game specifically the narrative aspect. That would be Hiroyuki Owaku. Ito was the artist, not the writer.

[@balthazor44]

​​​@@Gabbagool86um ok, I'm pretty sure I've read and seen everything you have, and I'm perfectly capable of thinking whatever I want, particularly with regards to a property that leaves much open to interpretation. But even looking just at what the games say and present, it is made clear that the town had power far before Alessa ever existed, and it's also worth noting that all the designs in SH2 (outside of Maria's outfit) are from the 70s, whereas the design of SH1 were from the 90s, so there is that. Frankly, I don't much are either way, I'm just trying to suggest that things aren't as etched in stone as you are making them out to be, as there is plenty of room for interpretation. Finally, I'm pretty sure that, despite being the artist, Ito probably had more insight into what they were doing than either of us.

[@ShyamadeepPrasad]

The whole thing - the repeated trigger warnings, the plot, the character obssessing over losing Insta followers - all of it makes the game seem more like an unintentional parody than anything else 😂

[@Robocop_1987]

The " are you okay " part cracked me up man 😂

[@MrBingogogo]

...are you okay, Mayo? Are you SURE you're okay?

[@FishGlove2024]

This is the worst possible direction the series could have taken. I was already annoyed at people placing SH2 above every other entry because of oh how deep it is, dealing with the themes of trauma and guilt, but now it seems like they want to create an entire franchise where every teenage girl can enter the wolrd of Silent Hill by being depreseed.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

But SH2 is truly infinitely beyond the other 3 Team Silent games

[@SirGustav94]

@@carlosaugusto9821 "infinitely beyond" lmao

[@Jill4ChrisRedfeild]

Apparently, Anya or whatever the Japanese girls name was, was pregnant and forced to get an abortion which is why she was so depressed and killed herself. A fact they never bring up. Its just..implied. because of a positive pregnancy test in her studio and the connection to the boy she fell for. The short message can't be arsed to even expand on one of the more 'interesting' plot points in their own game. Its so dumb.

[@patnewbie2177]

Tbf it seems like they were going for "show don't tell" which is better than the rest of this game's writing.

[@Solar_Corpus]

I will not be gaslighted into believing this game is a deep take on depression and anxiety. If anything, I genuinely believe it’s shallow as hell.

[@underthemayo]

You will eat it, and you will like it.

[@Solar_Corpus]

@@underthemayo NO 🤮

[@DHKrieg]

The idea that now all of these games and stories might just be the character fucking dreaming and it doesn't mean anything is so pathetic. I thought writers in general had realized that "IT WAS ALL IN LE HEAD, YOU PASSED OUT, YOU WERE SNOOZING!!! DIDNT HAPPEN!" writing is just bad but I guess not lol

[@jamesmorris7844]

I find it odd the original four games no one swears, the only one is Heather calling Claudia a bitch ow no wait that was Tomm Hulett changing the dialogue in the HD collection, now look what we have it's almost like they have inferior writing skills to Team Silent surely not.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

Coulda sworn some people swore in those games

[@Find_Fresno_Nightcrawler]

That note physically hurt me to read

[@Snook1985]

Angela's bedroom and Heather throwing up the fetus is still subtle IMHO. Like throwing info in your face in the softest manner. Like my little sister didnt understand Angela's room at time that i played it. I explained it to her. She thought i was wierd and over thinking it and realized I was right when she watched me play a second time.

[@markwheeler4245]

Im wondering whether any developers get what makes earlier Silent Hill games so special? None so far seem to get understand what makes em tick, all i want tbh now is quality ports of 1-4 in particular on modern platforms

[@Artesian_mirage]

For starters i think they would surely need to do adequate research on what the original Team Silent used for inspiration (such as Twin Peaks, Jacobs Ladder, Francis Bacon (artist), Crime and punishment (novel), Anything by Stephen King and Dean Koontz, and watching at least some classic Japanese horror movies), not to mention a smattering of occult studies. I doubt these bellends did much of any research on these kinds of media. These current Silent Hll products just scream "keyword checklist box ticking"

[@donaldhysa4836]

I liked the part when the little girl says "Silleeent Hilll! Sileennt Hill!"

[@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr]

I liked the part where she said it’s “silenting time” and silented all over the hill!!!!

[@diogopereira1475]

This is a teenage drama series rather than a horror game and much less a silent hill game A monster made of paper flowers? Nothing scary about it, its a walking simulator with cutscenes after cutscenes, and a childish story about social media and likes and dislikes as if thats the most important thing in life... Theres people who suffer from depression and suicidal thoughts from REAL ISSUES, not high school teenage drama and "bullying" that you grow up and grow a thicker skin

[@ARStudios2000]

The issue is, we actually HAVE real people and teens and what not now who actually do have such thin skin, that not getting enough follows and what not on social media makes them an emotional mess. I'm not saying you can't make a story out of that, I'm saying THIS was not it, dude. There's a mature, real story that can be made from how such shallow hollow goals and what not can truly be horrible and how to grow out of it, but this just drops any subtelty or tact with which it could have taken the topic. It's made for a "new" audience, and that new audience are, in fact, genuinely people as shallow as the protagonist in this game.

[@tidxlu7595]

Now kids are very cruel. And children don’t really have a tough mind yet so a lot of that could get to them.. just saying

[@DeathLore]

Honestly, using the concept of bullying for a horror game can work. Especially with suicidal or violent thoughts. Just not this…

[@diogopereira1475]

@@DeathLore high school bullying isnt at all, its childish and not something that works in the adult world, get something thats actually traumatizing events

[@balegdah]

hey guys i wear glasses but i got some baggage... my senpai got more instagram likes than i did. oops she died. was it my fault? the strongest animals don't form groups. anyway life is a prison so we used to graffiti everywhere like we banksy. oh no suddenly there are sticky notes all over the walls. let me verbally announce the hate comments i've gotten. CRYBABY. UGLY. GO AWAY. so traumatising it makes me want to go to silent hill. alexa play generic horror music i am now being chased by the sticky note monster

[@adamkeasey655]

Guys, guys, guys. Bullying...BAD.

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

This feels like a Bloober Team game... Wait... Oh GOD-

[@ScarilyOlivia]

The story of Short Message reminded me of a cringier version of an Amnesia: The Dark Descent mod I worked on almost 10 years ago. An Amnesia mod did this better.

[@obscureanimebumps3206]

Comment for reupload: This had some good ideas that could’ve worked with silent hill but the bad outweighed any of the good that it all just falls flat. The silent hill phenomenon thing is the worse offender. I think 3,4, and Homecoming do a better job at showing the other world going beyond the town’s boundaries. Thing is, it’s pretty clear in the original games that, while the town itself is like a ground zero, that this other world/supernatural world is just everywhere. It’s something that you can’t understand/rationalize and is at the end of the day, incomprehensible and really shouldn’t be over explained, the horror is the unknown dream logic of it all. It isn’t trauma manifesting itself, but that can shape the way you see this world and how this world interacts with you. Team silent was just lightening in a bottle, I don’t think they’ll ever be able to recapture that. I’m hoping 2 remake and SH f are better but this short experience, and ascension, really put a lot of doubt in my mind about the entire revitalization of the series. I’d rather have remasters/ports of the older games.

[@Mazgid]

The thing with shp - Heather was holding a goddamn SH God in her, that was the reason to transform the world into my grandparents garage, and Waltuh Sallivan was making the ritual to transform room 312 into the damn monster, that turned the whole appartment into the noghtmare, yet it was an alternative reality that was connected in one place - the room. So there always been some kind of wild shit happening that included sh1 cult and gods. Hell, even homecoming was about another town next to it, that had an effect and got that prey/god mentality, that went out of control, since ritual was broken. And now what they are saying that it's okay to shp to happen in anywhere if you see fog all of the sudden and feel sad and guilt for killing wife/friend/brother/tumblr follower

[@respectable-username]

plus, whenever silent hill's otherworld was outside of the actual town, it was to lure people into the town or to physically bring them there in some way. not a whole separate location with its own otherworld spawn that stays within that other location. even Henry was in the actual town through otherworld shenanigans.

[@mattmedrala1947]

I think them keeping the Silent Hill name is annoying, but it's easy to say that this town is just one of many places that are nexuses for energy linking to another universe. SH4 was about Walter using his powers to draw people from all over into his own dream world, Freddy Krueger style, and SH3 and Homecoming had the Otherworld invading locations outside of the town (before you literally enter said town.)

[@LosMSR]

Why some paper is doing a big mess for people? Could be just fake info, the town always do that.

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

@drala1947 Yes, but both places were still connected to Silent Hill, with Heather having God in her and with Shephard's Glenn whorshipping the same God as the Order. None of that is in The Short Message.

[@brendab92]

theres no hope for silent hill 😭

[@underthemayo]

Let's cry together.

[@khromereaper1574]

Pathetic that this gets demonotized this is an astounding video talking about the most disrespectful entry in the silent hill franchise.

[@BlueJayz474]

I thought that was Ascension?

[@khromereaper1574]

@BlueJayz474 Ascension isn't even really an attempt at being a "game" it's a shitty pay to win TV show.

[@Torthrodhel]

KZbin demonetizes everything and everyone nowadays. Seems less like a specific target and more like just a general overall problem with the system.

[@Sad-Lesbian]

Theyre doing the thing the Western developers did almost 20 uears ago, but somehow even worse. They played Silent Hill 2, interpreted it REALLY BADLY, and then try to recreate it. Emphasis on try.

[@xLadyRaine]

Silent Hill Phenomenon is literally just Hinamizawa syndrome from Higurashi. Funnily enough the author of Higurashi is working on Silent Hill f. I dying to know how that will turn out

[@NOname-bv2jy]

It's a watered down, worse version of Hinamizawa syndrome, almost like it was made by Netflix, thankfully Ryukishi07 had nothing to do with this mess. Also Silent Hill F is gonna take place in the 1960s, where the characters didn't have to worry about how many followers they lose on social media...

[@archiethedog4515]

SH2 is an even bigger sacred cow than RE4 is, I really hope Bloober knows what they are doing with it, because Konami sure doesn't.

[@scolioreset]

Having played the Medium, I would be skeptical from Bloober because they handle the subject matter as well as Polygon using a weapon from Doom.

[@thundercat2165]

SH2 remake will be an absolute disaster, even worse than RE4R

[@mza5949]

​@@thundercat2165I agree with SH2 but RE4R was a TRUE MASTERPIECE that surpassed the original and this is coming from a guy who finished the original on the GameCube like 9 times.

[@thundercat2165]

@@mza5949 nah RE4R is garbage that can't even hold a candle to the original game

[@mza5949]

@@thundercat2165 You are simply blinded by nostalgia my friend.

[@DogDayFromPoppyPlaytime180]

The fact we got this instead of Silent Hills upsets me

[@Cryptic-cy3xr]

I never wanted a main character to die, until I played this.

[@aaabbbeee]

The true horror in the horror genre is the motion sickness inducing FOV 😱

[@QuickQuips]

It's why I couldn't beat the first Condemned.

[@ExpertContrarian]

Low fov, near pitch black, sub 30fps

[@troudbalos]

Grow up. Its a console game made to be enjoyed from your couch. You would be looking trough a telescope if it had 200fov like how every pc player set their fov.

[@aaabbbeee]

​@@troudbalos No

[@Guanjyn]

I just found out this game exists lol. I can see why. The social media thing has been done to death already. I don’t know why it’s so difficult for these guys to make a good Silent Hill game again.

[@mongooseunleashed]

I don't get it. So Anita bullies a girl to suicide to get her friend back, but "feels" guilty enough to commit suicide only to get her friend back? What's the message here? It's okay to bully people as long as you have a sad backstory.

[@Peasham]

The game's bad, but like, no, she feels guilty about bullying that girl lmao, it's not presented as a good thing.

[@mongooseunleashed]

@@Peasham Yeah, but Anita still gets what she wanted in the end.

[@Peasham]

@@mongooseunleashed After repenting, yeah. If you have a problem with this then wait til you play Silent Hill 2 lmao

[@mongooseunleashed]

@@Peasham Those are very different circumstances. James killed his wife to end her suffering. Anita bullied Maya because she was more popular and wanted her friend back.

[@Peasham]

@@mongooseunleashed You. You're aware that's a lie James told himself, yes? No, both characters did these things out of selfish reasons and both repented through suffering. Which isn't me defending the game, the fact that it's aping off of SH2 and P.T. is bad in and of itself, but this is neither novel for the series nor novel for, like, art in general, character does something bad, it is seen as bad, character repents, and everything's alright.

[@atil-o4q]

I mailed a case of chocolate Soylent to KZbin HQ. They'll figure out it's not chocolate

[@itsthemoneyorstop1483]

Hey, remember when harry was searching through silent hill for his adopted daughter or James being called to silent hill through a note from his dead wife or Heather going to silent hill to avenge her father? Good times

[@itsthemoneyorstop1483]

Or Walter Sullivan?

[@redpie2002]

What's worse is that Masahiro Ito worked at this awful "Silent Hill wannabe" to design the monster, and then, wow. Everyone should love it. But no. This is not Silent Hill...

[@noobgamersland6969]

I love how their's this trigger warning a lot of times in the game but in silent hill 2 topics like r***, murder, abuse, and a lot worse stuff were discussed but they did not need to put a warning because it was subtle and everything had a meaning to the one that observed....for example the enemy designs...not that subtle but yeah...this game doesn't even make an attempt to emulate that....

[@aweirdwombat]

I tried to give this game the benefit of the doubt but the poorly handled story and bad gameplay really broke the experience for me. You're right about this one.

[@maineman5757]

Why doesn't she just delete social media? Lol

[@MajorK99]

Because this generation is addicted to social media

[@jayros4269]

Where are her parents?

[@diegordi1394]

​@@jayros4269One left. The other neglected her and her brother.

[@John-core]

This is why i have no hope in silent hill 2 remake bloober team is one big red flag they can't do horror properly Second red flag is the developers stated SH2R will be censored for "modern audiences and making it less scary" The developers don't seem to understand silent hill lore and going a completely different way that doesnt make sense. And the fact this was all about social media...what a lame story the typical zoomer bs

[@mhmtakeyatime9000]

The minute i read "censored" i know that the remake will disappoint.

[@SoraBlackheart]

"We want to justify the fact that we're making a Silent Hill game that takes place in Japan", the game.

[@underthemayo]

And you know where, there's way to do that It's a Japanese made game, with air raid sirens into leading to a nightmare world of death. Could easily be connected to these of japanese history in the aftermath of the nuclear bomb drops. If you took that background, and combined it with a place there with some kind of .. I don't know, power. Maybe a different power? And sometime between 1945 and 1970 these two powers meet in silent hill when someone comes to the town. They see their own monsters similar to SH2, but have direct contact with earlier cult members. Clash of powers that leaves and influence in the town's power? Or the cult's beliefs. That's just something off the top of my head. I'm not saying do that. But you COULD come up with something that could logically work somehow even if it's a stretch. These new games are taking the easy way out.

[@OperatorMax1993]

@@underthemayo and even if Silent Hill 4 isn't in the main town, atleast Walter Sullivan is connected to it with his background (adopted by The Order)

[@Gabbagool86]

@@OperatorMax1993 Yeah the rules were followed the ritual simply took place else where and because it was Walters dream his distorted memories of his past still have you go to the general location of tuloca lake.

[@OperatorMax1993]

@@Gabbagool86 exactly. Much like Alessa, you fight against Walter's manifestations of the things he experienced in life

[@alexisglaab2572]

Just watched a full "play"through and... what? This has nothing to do with Silent Hill. She doesn't deserve to be punished by Silent Hill, and she personally has nothing to do with the town. She isn't even in Silent Hill. The place doesn't even act like Silent Hill, the cycling areas is pretty much a PT thing, and that was just a demo. This is just a messy combination of a bunch of indy games that wish they were PT. This doesn't even make sense internally, people in a small, failing German town should be... you know... German.

[@mattmedrala1947]

Silent Hill doesn't punish sinners, it externally manifests someone's repressed emotions. Someone with a lot of self hatred and stress would experience hell, regardless of what they did.

[@mza5949]

Silent Hill : The Modern Audience.

[@TheBatman39]

ESG Hill

[@tylertruthseeker4034]

Modernism for young generations

[@x_.hunter._x5129]

Yet it's made by the original creator which strongly recaptured what made silent hill great in a short demo but ok

[@37000]

I knew Konami was going to do this since they announced their plans to revive the saga, it was obvious that if they want to be relevant again in the industry they had to change the saga to the tastes of the current average gamer and this does not respect the lore of the games they don't know. They only know that Silent Hill was a psychological horror game and that's enough for them to say that any game that has something psychological can be SH, the same thing Capcom did with RE, as long as it has guns and mutants everything is RE. The conditions that allowed Silent Hill to succeed (developers, press and players) do not exist anymore, the developers are not the same, the press is not the same and the players are not the same.

[@tacticstories7159]

There's nothing wrong with opening your story with the theme off the bat. What is wrong is obviously stating what everyone else should be thinking or feeling. Just tell the story and let the characters react in a way that is believable and let the audience decide for themself what they think about it.

[@vullzy]

people are giving the short message to much positively. it blows so much and makes all the games look cringe from an outside circle

[@weirdo3116]

i'm not gonna lie. this entire game, especially the ending, felt like a comedy. The biggest joke is the game trying to make me care about these characters.

[@derpleyew]

8:08 you managed to put into words the exact way I felt about this issue but wasn’t able to express. I found it so poorly strung together because the “bullying” was so goofy and unthreatening, yet they will happily show your character very graphically start to cut their wrist with a razor, all while in a photorealistic bathroom covered in blood from previous attempts. It was really unbalanced and extremely bad taste.

[@jonathanberrios585]

Finally someone who understands how bad this game is. I hate when some reviewers kiss this games ass

[@skeletalearth]

Yeah man. It was a lot easier to play through because I knew what it was going to be. Konami sucks, and they do not care about Silent Hill. They just don't, not in the way that the fans do. They care to make money off the name - that's it. There will not be another great Silent Hill game. If you have hope for this series as a fan of the older games after seeing Ascension and The Short Message, that's fucking incredible.

[@mikeshinwa3398]

Mayo keeping it real. Thanks for being one of the few silent hill "fans" who demonstrates a very deep understanding about the franchise. I still can't wrap my head around how so many Silent Hill "fans" are criticizing other hardcore fans for being upset with the upcoming Silent Hill offerings (especially the remake). Are people so starved for Silent Hill content that they will gobble up whatever sub-par crap Konami throws their way? And get all upset when fans who KNOW the series deserves way better and have higher expectations get rightfully angry and call them "ungrateful". It's crazy that so many "casual" gamers claim that storytelling and narrative has never been better in videogames and while that is true in some ways, it feels largely inaccurate. True the "cinematic" nature of storytelling in videogames has been refined and that is to be expected with better tech, higher production values, and "copying" off of popular movies and TV shows. But the stories told are just not that engaging. To this day, Silent Hill 2 and 3 run circles around so many of these narrative-focused games. That little section about the fog had my eyes rolling to the back of my head. DID THESE PEOPLE EVER PLAY OR UNDERSTAND SILENT HILL???

[@violau8550]

I dont think these fake gamers are all about story driven and narrative games, i think these gamers just want to come out with their own theories about the story to feel smart, more than the story itself. The thing is, these fake gamers who care about story, are never read any book in real life, it means they dont know about a good story in the first place, and they are not gamer so these game are "easy" for them to "play". So yeah, the fog, they dont want to know WHAT IT IS, but WHAT I THINK IT IS. It basically similar how they think about genders as well.

[@raymondl9320]

The "hey man r U ok" part does it for me💀

[@Impalingthorn]

I wrote and entire long*** comment on the original video expressing all of my issues with how Konami has treated this franchise and don't intend to rewrite it. Instead I'll keep it short and simple but just saying: Konami, if you want to make a god d*mn Silent Hill game, don't make an action game with an SH paint job or a microtransaction hellscape with a SH paintjob or THIS game which is just Life is Silent Hill, just look at the old games that actually blew this IP up and MAKE THOSE GAMES. It is IMPRESSIVE how incompetent you are when it comes to reading the room and ignoring the existence of RE2 and RE4 Remake as if they haven't been selling like hotcakes. Most people don't even want new Silent Hill games or Remakes, they JUST want modern ports. That's it. And yeah, I know the struggle, "Oh Konami deleted all the old files for the games hurr durr". I don't care, TRY. It'd be much less taxing than whatever the f*** they are doing now. When they can remind the world why people cared about this IP in the first place, THEN they can worry about Remakes and new games. However, they have done this franchise so dirty that most fans would just be content if it STAYED DEAD. And when people would rather a franchise gave them nothing at all than see new games, you've screwed up.

[@death-king1834]

This is why I have repeatedly stated over and over again, Silent Hill died when Konami shut down Team Silent. They were the brain-childs that made the series so unique and haunting. Every developer afterwards for the likes of Homcoming, Origins and Downpour, while I'm sure they had the best of intentions, just failed to match that which was presented in the first four original Team Silent games. Even with Konami's attempts at revitalizing the brand with what we've gotten so far, isn't exactly showing a whole lot of faith and if anything is just further proof of how little understanding they have for this brand. Ascension from what I've heard is really bad, but then again that doesn't surpise me as Jar Jar Abrams Bad Reboot is involved. Short Message doesn't look nor feel in any way remotely anything like Silent Hill, and I wouldn't be surpised if it was meant to be something else entirely and just got the name 'Silent Hill' slapped on in the hopes of selling a couple copies. Bloober Team's Silent Hill 2 Remake has a lot of red flags, certainly not helped that Bloober itself isn't exactly known for their high quaility when it comes to their horror games. Really the only one that I feel could have some interesting potential is Silent Hill ƒ.

[@MeatSim64]

9:08 Dude, this segment got me in a laughing stoper. Earned an immediate virtual brownie point from me 😂👍

[@MontyZander]

Oh boy can’t wait to watch this Silent Hill video again! (Commenting for the reupload)

[@oldwaterbottle2872]

I really tried to give this game a chance, but I just couldn’t find it in me to finish it. The lack of any kind of subtlety in regard to its themes and the lack of any real gameplay killed my interest in it. It has some interesting ideas in terms of lore but they feel completely wasted here. Also, if the game doesn’t take place in Silent Hill, why is it called Silent Hill? Even SH2 at least had some connecting tissue to the first game despite being very disconnected from it.

[@louplaysit3427]

Here we are to support and I'll watch it twice since that's a re-upload