THE EMPEROR'S THOUGHTS ON THE INQUISITION! WOULD HE BE OPPOSED?

[@VandalAudi]

The Last Church, Monarchia, The Burning of Prospero? Every good tyrant needs their secret police, every tyrant also has "good" intention.

[@TheSpicyLeg]

The Emperor doesn’t rule at all, actually. The High Lords do so in his name.

[@randomdude8202]

Countries that formed in a completely peaceful way as few as your fingers in your two hands. "Good guy" is an illusion, only thing that changes is how many people got sanctified to form your version of tyranny.

[@davidsmith-ef3rr]

Prospero burning was Horus's doing

[@miroo4097]

I think the emperor would be to practical to go against the inquisition in present 40k. I imagine he'd most likely make up as a new ordo under his direct oversight to rein in Inquisitors who go to far or are lost. Unlike in TTS the emperor wouldn't..... do everything all at once when everything is on a constant balance act.

[@DocWolph]

If the Emperor came back, he might not need to do much more than reiterate Malcador's original mission statement for the Inquisition. With his word being law, the Inquisition would tear itself apart cleaning house. Few living would be brought to justice and those left would simply be brought to a new understanding that they are NO LONGER above everyone, and that the Emperor can and will put someone over them for no other reasons than HE CAN. This humility, especially if the Emperor issues direct orders of elimination on Inquisitors who go too far and/or wide, would reform the Inquisition within a few generations.

[@trajanfidelis1532]

I think He would recognize the Inquisitions necessity, but I don't think He would appreciate them as an organization. Definitely some reorganization

[@DukeDanseMacambre]

I’m inclined to agree, once more Puritan and radical elements have been removed. Ignoring the dozens of minor ordos, grey knights / malleus just need reigning in and depending on if the imperium is aware of the warp at this point could stop them purging everyone that heard of a guy that seen a thing described by the son of the man who may of been on the planet with a daemon. The Ordo Xenos would not experience much change currently apart from a possible removal of the more radical inquisition elements and an expansion of its martial arm and the possible reinstatement of some legion size forces/creation of (even 10000 - 20000 marines is allot and the size of a small legion), the Ordo hereticus however are too intertwined with the imperial church, even if the emperor returns as a god he won’t want them reading from one of Logan’s books, if just a godly powerful immortal being again the Ordo may cease to exist or undergo a complete reworking but their military arm the sisters are likely to be repurposed if they can accept the reinstated imperial truth. Which as the black Templars are likely to accept this I feel most sisters orders would and would then just revere the emperor in another way, (insert golden abs statues here ) I dare say though the nids would be his main focus before chaos but you can be damn sure the league of Votan would be on his shit list. 😂. *I really hate autocorrect when it comes to 40k…*

[@brooklynkeith2877]

Malcador the Hero stamped it so yes he would allow it. Same thing with the Grey Knights.

[@manhunter433]

The Emperor would be disgusted with the power hungry/over zealous members of the Inquisition.

[@henryviiifake8244]

02:44 When was the Imperium not a "paranoid, fearful and uncompromising reigine"? The Emperor is directly implicated in two infanticides and has no problems burning cultures to ash if they don't play by his rules. If anything, the Inquisition ressembles the Emperor more closely than they realise.

[@petercalo2607]

If it was the emperor from 30k he would probably have them all killed. In 40k? Veneration and worship towards him have risen to levels that pre-betrayal Lorgar would have been very happy to see.

[@themadpizzler6081]

I'm very curious to see if GW explores the schism that should occur between the Regent, the Ecclesiarchy, and the Inquisition. A civil war is inevitable.... I'm curious to see how GW would game that out.

[@RawDogAnAeldari]

If big E comes back I honestly don't think he'd rock the boat too much because he wouldn't have the time to reform with all the current threats. He has a really arbitrary system though, like when he had that one lady killed for stealing water but he doesn't really care if your genocidal.

[@REDRAGON12345]

But he absolutely would care if people said 'your' instead of 'you're.'

[@RawDogAnAeldari]

@@REDRAGON12345 counterpoint: Nuh uh

[@The0Stroy]

Imperium? You are not MY Imperium.

[@alexbrowne9566]

You make it sound like it was a peasant stealing water for her child or something, was a bit different than that and you know it

[@edbangor9163]

They really, really, really need to bring Russ back. The whole Inquisition narrative can't really be followed up on unless there is someone with nearly absolute authority who would have no issue with open conflict against them. Leman Russ is really the only character who could fill that role. Guilliman is too much of an administrator to shake the system up. El'Johnson is focused on his own priorities. But Russ has the rebellious spirit necessary to stand up to the Inquisition, a personal reason to take up a righteous cause (months of shame), and the innate authority as a Primarch to rally enough forces to actually resist the Inquisition And I'm also hoping for a scene where some cloaked assassin thinks they got the drop on Russ, forgetting that the Space Wolves senses are already sharper than what their armor can enhance, and Russ's are sharper still. Cue Russ spinning around, reaching into seemingly empty air, and wrapping his fist around an assassin's throat.

[@letoutthe...thebeast7735]

Wait I thought russ was emperor executioner

[@gwilym1991]

He'd completely see that they are necessary but not answering to anyone he would not approve of. Whilst he was around everyone answered to him, or Malcador. I'm curious what will happen as more Primarchs return. Guilliman as regent with the back up of a couple of brothers could properly hold the Inquisition to account, as some of their actions ARE unforgivable. One is Inquisitor sold out like 12 planets simply to talk to a gretchen close to a warboss.

[@IM-xs3uv]

What does the Emperor think of the Inquisition? Well, he hasn't done anything to stop them has he? Same for the Ecclesiarchy.

[@johnmorton1026]

To be fair he's not done much of anything for the last 10,000 years

[@Ak-6969]

It's a lot more complicated then that. There's a whole theory that the Emperor can see the future and doesn't take actions which would lead to the worse outcomes. That's why he assigns custodians to individuals who are desitined to do something important, even the lowest ranking guardsman can be protected. He also has way more bigger threats to assess the inquisition like the Chaos Gods who will combat his revival.

[@TheSpicyLeg]

@@Ak-6969Correct. So many people can’t understand that being morally good does not mean always being good. A great hypothetical I often use to illustrate this point is to ask the person: If you were teleported back in time to Hitler’s birth, and know what you know now, would you kill the infant? Of course, they would. Then I call them a baby killer and watch their brains melt. The Emperor is always seeing a future, and sometimes bad things in the future are averted by bad things now.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

It's also important to note that the inquisitions referenced were just in parts if Europe and the American Colonies. It stands to reason that similar barbarities occurred across every populated continent. A person is smart, but PEOPLE can be dangerously stupid.

[@madmerlinsart]

I have the feeling you have discussed this before, but, I think it's well worth the revisit. Especially now, at the end of 9th, we see the Inquisition, namely Coteaz, prepare for a war one I feel he's doing out of fear for his organisations future.

[@nathanial_summers]

I feel he'd see the Inquisition the same way he'd view the Cult Imperialis, with disdain and disgust. Would he destroy them...yeah, but probably testing individual Inquisitors depending on there records

[@tonyandbob]

Because unlike them I know that I am right" probably the emperor 😅

[@Galith20]

First. XD I think the Emperor would accept that there's a need for a necessary evil, but im sure he's annoyed that the Inquisition's purpose runs counter to his view of Enlightenment and Illumination. When/if he gets off the Throne, I'm sure he'll purge them like he did the Thunder Warriors.

[@azaliae99]

Very surprised by your last take. I don't agree with every pessimistic takes in Luetin series on the Emperor but he makes a very very clear cut case that what the Emperor did was not for all humanity but mainly for his own power.

[@twilightofapprentice8280]

Like locked away in golden throne for 10k years very pleasant experience it would be

[@Ally.Cat.252]

I don’t think the Emperor would be mad at the inquisition. I mean he wiped out 100s of worlds/civilisations himself during the great crusade…

[@nathangillispie51]

If the emperor was active, there would be a lot of dead inquisitors.

[@willhull9839]

I loved that short story. Puts the emperor in great prospect

[@johnn4134]

Not even the emperor expects the Spanish inquisition!

[@miroo4097]

Annoying part of Spanish Inquisition it was a nearly 400 year period and only 150,00 were prosecuted (not killed thing about Hersey back then most people didn't know they were commiting Hersey and they didn't want to kill the faithful most punishments were some for of public shaming/atonement) And only between 3,000 and 5,000 were executed (which the church couldn't actually do it was the local authority/royalty that did so).... for reference the mostly secular French Revolution killed that many in a month (don't even get started about Atheist China and Soviets) but sure religion bad.

[@miroo4097]

Okay it was a memeing I get it but still gets annoying and eventually I get triggered lol

[@Galith20]

Nobody expects the Tau Inquisition either. XD

[@BM-wf9uf]

Emperor to the Inquisition: Protect humanity from the predations of Chaos. Inquisition: Exterminatus, exterminatus, exterminatus. Emperor: Wait

[@TheLaluciDaniel]

Inquisitor: "My life's work was in the name of The Emperor!" Chaos Daemon: "Your life's work makes him puke!"

[@SupersaiyanChristian]

I personally hope Guilliman orders the purging of the Inquisition. They have done too many atrocities against innocent Imperial subjects. I am also willing to be the Space Wolfs and Black Templars would like to assist in that purge. It would be a bad day to be the Inquisition

[@robinderoos1166]

The primarchs are occupied and unlikely to reign in the inquisition any time soon... Besides Russ of course... If Valdor were to return however, i could see him pulling it off and get away with it

[@alexbrowne9566]

I think the Emperor, if he returned in full, would want to reorganise the imperium now into a civilisation much like the interex. He once tried to deny the existence of chaos with the imperial truth (while being fully aware of it). I think now he'd choose to make the imperium something its people could be proud of and wouldn't want to rebel against, while making its citizens active and knowledgable in the fight against chaos. You can't really hide chaos and that is evident in 40k. Although i think the inquisition would stay until he came up with something better, because its easy to list off their crimes but its also true they've been there throwing down with everyone and hard carrying the imperium for 10000 years

[@TK199999]

I think it would be another example of the EoM's hypocrisy. Since He would allow it since it was in 'His' name. I also would argue that in fact the EoM did/allowed things just as questionable as the Inquisition in his past and during the Unification Wars/Great Crusade. We must always go back to the why all the other Perpetuals except Ada and Astartes abandoned or out right fought against the EoM. Because for all the EoM talk about the evil's of the past, He had no problem doing it again, as He said in the 'Last Church', its different from the others of the past because He is right/correct. This is why I would love to see Perpetuals return in some form to the setting. It would give us almost a Highlander like sense of EoM, along with other Perpetuals. Giving us context as to why He and the other Perpetuals did what they did. Hell you could even have Guillemin rediscover a lost Human civilized world from DAoT. That had one of first Perpetuals to abandon the EoM living on it. He or she could even not hate the EoM and still consider Him a good friend. Just that they couldn't accept the cost to Humanity and their own soul that the EoM 'Revelation' would take. You could even have this Perpetual join Guillemin after finding out what happen to EoM and His plans after he left. Saying that he may not agree with what the EoM eventually did. But in these dark days he not abandon His friend's son in his hour of needed. So this Perpetual would help Guillemin and the IoM in any way he could. But that in private Guillemin would get just as much an ear full of complaints about this Imperium of Man and what was wrong/needed to change. As he gave the EoM when he was still with Him in his quest. So almost an audience proxy that could be saying 'WTF' at some of more outrageous stuff in 40k.

[@mikeylejan8849]

The inquisition is necessary

[@patrickbateman69420]

It's "would have" not "would of"

[@jamricsloe]

The question is: What part did HE play in the first Inquisition he describes? HIS understanding of what the Inquisition is doesn’t shed light on HIM believing or not believing it to be a necessary thing.

[@tjoverton7581]

Yea this video is basically asking would the emperor approve of the the imperium All it’s factions have elements that do things that would be deemed unnecessarily cruel

[@markrtoffeeman]

Nobody can oppose THE EMPEROR It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself

[@CeriMullins-nq3mc]

Assuming he is still alive in any real way he'd be shocked and appalled at what he sees around him. Question, has his sight been blocked in some way, or is he being kept just barely alive and stopped from coming back and the saints are all he is capable of till the blocks are stopped. Psychically he should know but they still get away with it.

[@Runenschuppe]

I highly doubt he'd be shocked. The guy has seen stuff. And was involved in a lot of questionable things himself. I think he's rather annoyed with the whole thing, but big E never had a problem with being worshiped as a god. His problem was how easy it is to corrupt a faith into directions which feed the Chaos gods. The Imperial Truth was an educated gamble at starving out the big four Chaos gods. It failed. He doesn't strike me as the guy who'd cripple his Empire by going to war against the Inquisition and Ecchlesiarchy just so he doesn't become a hypocrite. Instead he'll take more direct control of them.

[@ashslaa]

Humans no matter how educated they become, no matter cultivated through culture they are. Humans are still animals, the moment a controlling presence is, the moment it looks away even for the briefest of time, it will give in to it's instinctual ways. It may try justifying it self with fancy words or self deluding arguments that it may think are sound and just. I can't help but wonder if the emperors grand design would still have eventually collapsed in upon itself, even if the horus herecy hadn't happened. That even the emperor of mankind was deluding himself, with his own ego and pride? But that's just my own opinion and thoughts upon it, heh!

[@harryallen1175]

Do you think the emperor changed at all after he went down to molech?

[@dww6]

Key point you missed; the Emperor is a liar. And maybe it was Malcador and he was trying to impress him.

[@doktorparadox1791]

Emperor created Space Marines and Primarchs, his friend Malcador created Inquisition so it's not Emperors BS. Another point what can protect you against demons? Faith and church that's why Malcador did it.

[@sovereigneverblight5825]

I can't get behind anything the Last Church tried to say. The author himself has said he was not prepared to write an atheist vs religion story and it shows. Neither the priest or Emperor came out looking good. Their arguments are a child's understanding of the topic. It just doesn't work.

[@AzrealMaximus]

Emperor awakens, gets all the heavy news, handles it. The inquisition went after the Space Wolves and decimated the Celestial Lions Chapter!?🤯😡🤬 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥🔫😤

[@Joni_Tarvainen]

I feel like Emperor doesn’t need his humanity to be disgusted by Inquisirion. It’s his pure life philosophy as an antitheist. He’s in opposition towards all worship, especially his own. He has lived through thousands of years of worship of some deity before he became emperor and practically banned religions. It was the only way to make humanity last but in progress of doing so, ended up becoming enslaved to see that empire fall and deteroitate back to faith and superstition.

[@crewie94]

"Good guy of the setting". Humans are like, the most abhorrent race other than Dark Eldar.

[@moonnightbricks3948]

The Emperor, should he return...when the time is right......will remember what he has set in motion. ♎ 🎭 iota.

[@Kev819]

Amen

[@timothylyons5686]

The Emperor would say he's not a god and get executed for heresy. Therefore he would say he was a god and Lorgar would say l told you so.

[@danfuentes175]

Their bill will come due eventually.

[@timothylyons5686]

The Salem witch trials. Nothing changes.

[@svendragon8139]

May the Emperor destroy the faithful divinitatus followers and create new armies to reup the crusade

[@alotofthings22]

Rho, I enjoy your content a great deal and I'm sincerely sorry that this would be my first comment on one of your videos, but it really bothers me that you /say/ "would of" instead of "would have". It's a common mistake in writing, but I didn't realize people also said it out loud, and it kind of baffles me.

[@privettadam]

there are no good guys in 40k

[@Galith20]

There are, but those people either die, unremembered, or give their lives willingly. RIP Sanguinius.

[@DefaultProphet]

I feel like if Emps comes back he’ll do nothing about the imperium until he pulls out Primaris 2 and then it’s civil war 2.0 with new Primarch vs whoever’s come back

[@mikemoore2791]

P U R G E.

[@NoName-lo9ym]

Sadly the Emperor had his facts entirely wrong about the Spanish Inquisition - it rarely tortured or killed and all the ridiculous torture instruments like the Iron Maiden were made up in the 1700s by anti-Catholic grifters. Wouldn't be the first time the Emperor was wrong though

[@quitamgogh]

Horus was right.

[@Icspiders247]

Ugh the conversation in the last church was so clunky and awkward. Like two people arguing over points they didn't really understand.

[@TheFaulkned]

Just making a note in your file Rho. ][nquistion file on you is getting pretty thick... Good thing I'm in the ordo Malleus.

[@altayveyongunner1321]

I think the emperor would purge the fanatics and wasteful ones over 100 years to keep things moving .

[@mumtazaksura4218]

the emperor controls it all while sitting on his death throne alone

[@MoraqVos]

The Emperor was a xenophobic monster who was feared by his allies, so he has much common ground with the inquisition.

[@brooklynkeith2877]

You do know the majority of Xenos are Muderously hostile and want to subjugate the Human race and thats not just simple conjecture correct?

[@leekah9981]

@@brooklynkeith2877 A Tourist that doesn't know about how brutal the First Xenos that Humanity Met as they Started the Crusades, Some were even more terrifying than the Dark Eldars.

[@MoraqVos]

@@brooklynkeith2877 Xenophobia is the fear/hatred of people who are different from you, like any human who doesn't comply with the emperor. And under the guidance of the emperor humanity became as 'murderously hostile' as the worst alien species.

[@alexbrowne9566]

Yeah, he brought the imperium back to fight humanities enemies that almost brought them to extinction in the age of strife. Trust a guy whose been alive 50'000 years to know what enemies look like. He's not woke

[@doktorparadox1791]

You are naive. Besides when u take some information about real life confirmation is required also outside of woke anglosphere...