The end of an era - sad news and interesting January 2024 sets from LEGO Technic

[@kentslocum]

The garbage truck is the highlight for me! I saw someone with a custom LEGO City moc with the same kind of lifting mechanism, so it's nice to see LEGO officially embrace such a design, albeit in Technic and not in system. 😢

[@Thinginator]

Supposedly there's another LEGO set coming out soon with the same mechanism, but at minifig scale. But both are a little frustrating because that MOC you mentioned was a LEGO Ideas project that reached 10,000 supporters and then LEGO rejected it... only to now release two sets with the exact same mechanism and idea. So LEGO is being accused of stealing the idea without crediting its original creator.

[@mr.platinum-lego]

Had the same thought! There was a garbage truck already with this exact same mechanism! Looked it up, It was a moc designed by Scott and Levi Hasse. Hope they receive 10% of profit : )

[@smaug131]

I saw that one too, and it looks like the mechanism is very similar to me as well. Both the moc and this one look like the gear causing the claw to close (the black one in 2:29) being blocked from having closed around the bin will cause the arm to be lifted up with the bin by the same gears that formerly turned the black gear, such that turning one gear can control both motions.

[@RCmies]

@@mr.platinum-lego I think it's JK Brickworks

[@kentslocum]

@@smaug131 Exactly! It's a very compact and efficient design.

[@pangolin_bricks]

I’m really sad to see b models go from the technic line, I can understand the decision commercially but I felt alternates were a great way of inspiring the view that a set can become something else - more than just an extra selling point. Many people do not know the existence of rebrickable and I’m not sure it is correct to rely on independent designers to cover the gap in alternate models… Anyway, hopefully with more time and resources on new sets we will see more exciting projects - seen this year by a giant and quite different 1H wave. We at least still have creator 3in1 which continues to produce sets with creative alternates to inspire the next generation :)

[@R0Sch88]

Don't worry, LEGO will buy rebrickable sooner than later too. I'm surprised they didn't ask for a slice of the cake yet.

[@Thinginator]

I also miss the really old Technic "universal building sets," which just contained a wide variety of parts with a thick instruction manual full of all kinds of different models and mechanisms and idea pages for things you could build with the parts in the set. LEGO still does that kind of thing with the LEGO Classic brick boxes for regular LEGO, so why not Technic anymore? I'd buy the crap out of a value pack of bulk Technic parts.

[@AlexanderVetter]

@@R0Sch88 After Lego snapped up BrickLink a few years ago, the next logical step would be to acquire Rebrickable as well.

[@pangolin_bricks]

@@R0Sch88 Wouldn't surprise me if they did

[@bogden6153]

@@pangolin_bricks be a shame as they wouldn’t want your free instructions being around.

[@alfracer777]

It really is an end of the era. Still remember old technic sets like 8480 space shuttle and fantastic b model submarine . Or 8053 with cool b model (harbor crane).

[@EvanMoon]

Having the model meant that you get twice the building enjoyment out of every set. I always build the B model first. Then take it apart and build the main build.

[@jeffie585]

I absolutely hate that they are discontinuing b models. I build and rebuild my Lego models as a way of stress relief and relaxation. I feel that with the raising prices and taking away the b models were really not getting our money's worth. I have been building technic for at least 30 years and I've gone back and collected older sets from ebay. So I guess I'll be buying more old sets from eBay and less new sets from lego.

[@TACTOR]

Just used lego is good Lego! I would recommend to never again buy new Lego. There are so many other brands out there, that are better than lego

[@Jayderzomb]

@@TACTORi heard inside infos of great wheel parts like wheelhubs with integrated metal ball bearings and and and, lego will take massive L to the other companies

[@zeberto1986]

I still miss the alternate designs we used to get on city sets. There might not have been any instructions for the alternates but as a kid in the early 90s they where inspiring to go build something else.

[@undead.rising]

I feel the same way about the early years of Lego Star Wars.

[@VersatileFunDesigns]

It was not too long ago (5 years ago) that even the flagship Technic sets like the Bucket Wheel Excavator and Rough Terrain Crane had B models, as well as the Racing Yacht, so I really hope they bring back B models in future sets!

[@mushaconvoy]

I've only really gone back to Technic in the last 2 years, but I was blown away by the Bucket Wheel Excavator's B-model. Its a Mobile Aggregator to sort the pieces collected by the Excavator, works perfectly with the base model.... so you really need to buy two sets. Ingenious.

[@chilis_no]

I`ve never built B-models so not too sad for me personally but I can see that it`s a problem for the majority of others. The garbagetruck is my favourite among these january 2024 sets! Feels fresh and very recogizable.

[@superturtle61177]

It reminds me of the B model for the Mack truck released a few years ago. That was a great B model. Second only to the SUV B model for the Le Mans car that I love to modify.

[@Void_s]

​It is a small-scaled version of "big brother" but with electric engine (=a few panels instead of inlet and intercooler behind the cabin) and side-loader arm instead of front fork-loader

[@malawigw]

What is b model

[@superturtle61177]

@@malawigw It's an official alternate build.

[@skjohnson397]

I have never bought a Lego set for the B model, and have never disassembled any of my built Lego sets.

[@cerradobricks4017]

I like b models. It's always nice to see what can be done differently. But yeah, fans will eventually take care of that.

[@mahj]

45° offset knob gears in the garbage truck- those will be useful!

[@profBricks]

The fact that there are no official B-models is great news for creators on Rebrickable.

[@M0torsagmannen]

the loss of B models is really sad, ever since i was a kid i always built hte B modeels at least once, and sometimes i even prefer the B model over the A model. EDIT: the Garbage truck looks excellent though. might have to get that one

[@Montyh7]

I find the loss of B models sad in theory, but technic is a nightmare to pull apart, so I only ever really did it once or twice (I would build the B model first almost to get it over with), but it's sad for others that like them.

[@JimmyDuckworth]

I really miss the cool alternative builds of rebrickable but oh well! Thanks for informing us about the January sets and the bad news!!

[@OutrunRewind]

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[@00Reeper]

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[@Epic_R3K47]

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[@Archetype69]

At Lego price points, B-models are a must. Lego is getting more and more expensive while feeling more and more cheap.

[@johnnytifosi]

Thank you Balasz for mentioning the death of the B-model. For me it was a defining characteristic of Technic since I was drawn into it as a kid in the 90s. Just their existence was an excuse to constantly rebuild between the two models, getting way more value out of the set. As a result, I will vote with my wallet and stop buying Technic. Unfortunately, it seems the majority of people don't bother since they just build a set once and are done with, so it won't matter that much. It is clear by the type of sets that Lego is churning out and their business tactics that they promote single use, licensed and display sets, so that they can keep selling more. People forget that every Lego product line used to feature B-models, or even multiple back of the box builds. Town sets for example did this, now City is a shadow of its former self. Technic was simply the last one standing, leaving Creator 3-in-1 which still has them as a defining feature. The existence of rebrickable is not an excuse for lego to cheap out on the development of B models. Alternative builds on rebrickable tend to be either lower quality or not free. And I am not keen on spending 10+ euros just for instructions as lots of creators demand. Personally, I've posted quite a lot of free MOCs.

[@RacingBrick]

I think that there are tons of valuable and high quality MOCs on Rebrickable besides some less polished ones, and there were better and worse official B models, so it is not a black and white situation. I think with the migration of B model instructions to lego.com they were able to track precisely the amount of people actually building them, so from their perspective it was a rather simple equation. As a trend I saw casual builders choosing the official B models less, and experienced builders turning more towards Rebrickable.

[@Beregorn88]

Completely agree. In addition, technic models tends to get far less, and often worse, alternative models: this is because the technic parts are less versatile than the classic ones. If you start with a set that already has a single one construction in mind, the versatility would be even lower. On the completely opposite direction, the small 3-in-1 creator sets have seen a huge increase in replayability during the years

[@Isegawa2001]

I agree wholeheartedly. I might just be getting grumpy, but Technic has been losing momentum in the last few years (almost a decade now?). Too many licensed sets, increased focus on aesthetics over mechanisms, less interesting machines... Nothing wrong with a licensed/good looking set in principle but lately I've felt that even the largest sets are glorified display pieces.

[@320iSTWEdition]

@@RacingBrick But WHY were the official B-models chosen less? Because not everyone wants to build a model with a smartphone or pad or computer screen needed to show the PDF instructions.... they want a piece of paper to browse through cause THAT doesn't need electricity or a gadget to display it..... Of course you would see a decline in B-model building..... and the fact that most of them were way worse and uncreative anyways (maybe on purpose letting Lego cheap out on the customer getting less experience for more money.....).....

[@jaapjoo2372]

@@320iSTWEdition 100% agreed with you. Don't like instructions on the screen started white cybermaster. Now I don't want the kids behind a screen all day. B models must be include on paper in the box.

[@casualcombine]

That garbage truck is awesome! It'll be my first technic set in quite a few years! The B-models are a bit of a bummer, but honestly, I've never built any of them.

[@lumpyize]

I miss when there wassnt so much Lego Technic on license products

[@superturtle61177]

How much of the B model decision is tied to Lego's increasing reliance on licensed sets? Lego has no problems with turning a generic in-house designed car into a boat, but third parties are probably less enthused about their product being treated in such a manner.

[@crawler42]

Great comment, I totally understand this logic!

[@officialbuildingwithbricks]

Lego really was inspired by 2 of JK Brickworks' mocs. One being the Solar System orrery and the other being the garbage truck! They did a good job though

[@caskraker]

In the 90s I bought several Technic sets. The B models were never really fun to build. 2 years ago I came back, buying a used Liebherr 9800 which did not have any B model anyway. I discovered Rebrickable and bought several Alts. So much fun! Also, with some extra parts (old and new) I can build several original models available through the LEGO builders app. B models are just not needed, imo.

[@RacingBrick]

Apparently LEGO shares this opinion. I had some nice experience with B models, especially for the smaller sets in the past years. I also very much liked the B model of the 42077 Rally car or the Mack Anthem.

[@matzebob]

I feel very sad about seeing them gone, it was always a nice value additive to the price we pay TLG, outsourcing it to rebrickable feels like a cheap excuse. While there are talented and great moc designers out their, some even active lego designers like grohl, the official b-models had a certain quality assurance and zero entry level barrier. Now the 8 year old child HAS to know about rebrickable, is potentially charged for instructions, and has to use a computer to access them. All of this used to be different. Maybe great for members of the community, but utterly cheap on the side of LEGO :(

[@strangerofthe2067]

I love the smallest sets they always do, usually $10 USD. They’re always such fun little builds for a great price! I tend to collect the majority of Technic sets but there’s just something about the tiny ones that’s always fun. Kinda disappointing there’s no more B models, hopefully that will just be temporary but we’ll see.

[@pwcorgi2000]

It's pretty dumb that Lego discontinued the B models. It's opposite of what Lego should be all about.

[@iO-Sci]

Technic is my favorite L.E.G.O. and serene and unique childhood memory I kind of will miss these. 테크닉은 제가 가장 좋아하는 L.E.G.O 입니다. 고요하고 독특한 어린 시절의 추억이 좀 그리워질 것 같아요

[@zaxisontherun]

2:42 At the back theres a 4 stud axle with half bush,meaning it can be connected with a trailer from another set

[@globetrotter7778]

True, I'm curious to see if the hitch is at the same height off the ground as the 42136 tractor.

[@Void_s]

Or, it could be used to transport the harvester attachement as a trailer when moving on the road. Usually, the harvesters are forbidden to be driven on public roads due to excessive width, and they need to remove the front attachement, fold it to a kind of a long and narrow trailer (that uses those small wheels), hitch it to the rear hook and then go to the fields.

[@argiefstubergh1370]

I noticed a while back that the B models became less and less of. The last Technic I had with B model was Mack Anthem truck 42078. Because Dom's charger didn't have any B model, neither the rally car. It's sad.

[@denisdzd5487]

This new garbage truck is kinda a reference to b-model of 42078.

[@grapes008]

Can't help but still feel like the 90s was really the hey day for lego thechnic

[@johnnytifosi]

It absolutely was. Early-mid 10s was sort of a renaissance but it has been all downhill since then unfortunately.

[@automatticcomics]

Great vid. But removal of B MODELS IS SUPER SAD. I LEARNT SO MUCH from technic and different ways of building and engineering with b models.

[@12171010011010]

That truck reminds me of the Mack truck B-model. I do miss when lego sets were full of inspiration and alternate models, but it’s not a huge loss. The small technic sets look neat, but they will definitely get overshadowed by the technic space theme.

[@Exp.Rw29]

The removing of b models doesn't matter too much tbh.. on bigger sets, they were almost never an option because of the pain taking technic apart. In terms of smaller lego sets, you have alot of cool alternative builds on bricklink for example.

[@iancraigen]

Love that they are continuing the construction theme in the low price end of sets.

[@alexiusadty]

This is a sad news indeed. LEGO is pricey in my country. B models makes technic line seems a good deal because it feels like I have two sets.

[@somecallmetim42]

I'll miss having B models as some of them were even better than the A model, the blue crawler crane comes to mind, I straight away mine into the B model.

[@crawler42]

I will probably buy the John Deere combine to pair with the 42136 tractor. The only "miss" with this pairing is the trailer is not a grain wagon.

[@exilenl]

I just hope they'll come up with a whole lot more technic space sets in the coming years. As it is the only theme I really like. Just started my collection with the perseverance rover and I love it!

[@hardyhuang7791]

Wish b models are still around too. Very set, technic or system, that we have with alternate models we built them all. Some rebrickable models cost additional money

[@SavageMugen]

Really wanted more monster jam trucks...bummer

[@darksail9962]

around 2020, TLG is moving even further away from the idea of ​​children's toys and turning into a pump for pumping money out of adults, playing on nostalgia.... beautiful? - perhaps, but the spirit of the techniques in the sets is less and less....

[@kekchanbiggestfan]

Even if I’m not a technic fan, I usually got the $10 sets and found them a lot of fun, especially because of the B-models that would make something entirely different with different functions with such a limited set of parts. I really love the stunt plane, the designer has been uploading a ton of impressive alternate models on his youtube channel.

[@jeremyzerby9893]

I want all of them. I'm definitely going to pick up that garbage truck quickly as my son loves garbage trucks

[@Inflator82]

The best B model must be the garbage truck version of the Mack truck from 2017. It was more interesting than the A model.

[@harrylee6101]

I'm excited for the January 2024 sets but I'm sad because no more B-Models and Monster Jam. My favorite Technic set in 2024 is the Mack LR Garbage Truck

[@cgaming5561]

Same as you can wait until I get it

[@jochenkraus7016]

@@cgaming5561 If you have the Mack Anthem from a few years ago you could build its b-model until the new one arrives.

[@For891]

Wow the grab and dump function looks eerily similar to the ideas garbage truck submission from that father and son.

[@TheRocco96]

Yes, I remember seeing such a truck that could lift and tilt a bin in a YT video.

[@jqhn3777]

Indeed. Quite disappointing since the original idea was awesome and it got shot down. Glad we get to see it as a set nevertheless.

[@undead.rising]

My bucket wheel excavator has now been rebuilt into its B model for as long as the A model - about 4 years. I think it's more important for the larger models to have B models than the smaller sets - because no one thinks twice about taking apart a small model. These days, people view the entire Lego range as "One proper build only" which Lego owes it to themselves to dispel.

[@Chax0180]

Some of these newer technics were sold at a local bricks and mini figs, and I even bought a few. I got the John Deere Harvester, the Buggy, and the Neom off reader to add to my collection. Also just realized how late I was tho

[@Erik_mit_K]

They just save money by leaving the B model. And it fits with the philosophy of not to take your lego apart again and play with it, but just collect it and don't play with it.

[@gb9727]

42167 is like the mini version of 42078s B model

[@coffeeinhandproductions3238]

Unfortunate news about the B models. Especially for unlicensed sets. The Rally car turned Beach buggy is still one of my favorite alternate builds. The bulldozer would make a cute/simple impulse build but the Mac recycling truck at the smaller scale looks pretty fantastic and looks like a great parts value for the price.

[@pwcorgi2000]

I wonder who at Lego made this crazy decision. It's counter-productive of what Lego should be about.

[@LordDragonMPF]

Option B for Dump truck gave me an idea for an interesting MOC. Only it is still planned (Dump Truck is still in the box)

[@SimplyMyBuilds]

I will forever miss the B models in Lego sets because they always looked just as good, if not better! Awesome video Racing Brick! I think my favorite set would be the new garbage truck. 🎉

[@peanutschatzie4129]

I love the harvester, it's satisfying to mess around with lol I still wanna get that little bulldozer

[@VioletGiraffe]

I have a couple Technic sets sized 500 to 1000 parts from 2015-2020. I looked for suggested B-models on Rebrickable and other sites, and while there were a few ideas, none were of the official Lego quality. I didn't like and didn't build any of them. That said, not every official B model was good, in my opinion, but many were very good. I even liked some of them more than the A models.

[@ogrejd]

Dang. The buggy gave me hope that there'd be no pull-backs this year. Hopes that were immediately dashed, of course. :( Still, the one we're getting at least looks like it's nice and solid - more than just a basic, skeletal frame with a shell on top like the Monster Jam ones.

[@i-muts]

The John Deere harvester has a minifiure seat in it, that's cool

[@isaacwilliams8601]

It likely has shown up in models since, but the tilt-steering buggy reminds me of the 8252 Police Buggy with Technic scale minifig from the early 2000s, a fun set I had. It coincidentally had good B-model features and a somewhat modular design to it to switch between them quickly

[@globetrotter7778]

The loading mechanism on the garbage truck seems very clever. It seems turning *one single* gear makes it grab then lift the garbage can.

[@reijo77]

Well, as highlighted in other videos, this mechanism in garbage truck was submitted to lego ideas, collected 10 000 votes... And was not selected for a set. So, one might say, that idea remained here... I am curous if there would be credit to the afol...

[@globetrotter7778]

@@reijo77 Hopefully so. Are there any sets among these that you're interested in?

[@reijo77]

@@globetrotter7778 I had huge hopes for Harvester.... but I got let down. I will look closer once the instructions will be released. And well, maybe this mack as well. After all, the set is really interesting :)

[@globetrotter7778]

@@reijo77 The Mack is definitely first on my list. It is very playable (like any good Technic set) and even though the price hasn't been confirmed by Lego yet, I've read that it should be 30-35$, which to me is reasonable for a 503 piece build.

[@MicahPotts]

The Off-Road Buggy is by far my favorite one. Blows all the others out of the water. I have reviews of nearly all of these on my channel!

[@jaapjoo2372]

It is a shame that they don't make B models anymore especially for kids. With B models there is a bigger drive for them to dissembling and bilding and eventually making there own creations. And it should be on paper. They see enough screens and get distracted wen they're on the internet.

[@leafycrossing4755]

I've never liked B-models because your extra pieces from the A-model could get lost, you could have lots of spare parts from the A-Model (cough cough Car Transporter), and the B-models don't look finished. My one exception is the Articulated Sorting Plant from the 42055 set which was pretty clever!

[@Inflator82]

I love the Mack. Not so much the combine harvester. I expect more from that.

[@TheNorweigen86]

These look amazing can’t wait for them to come

[@pedro380085]

the john deere sets are perfect one after the other! all the three models so far are beautiful and the bright green is such a great color.

[@ThatImmo]

I like the buggy because it has this retro coolness, it just strikes the right notes with me. Garbage truck looks like it has cool mechanics, and the 'dozer will be a nice addition to the old threaded crane I have - both seem to be in the same scale.

[@liamgorman3947]

The real sad news is the state of the SC BMW double pack.

[@vtr0104]

The big surprise for me in this lineup is that small dozer, in the sense that it's almost identical to one they already did with the exact same function and in the same scale (L8259). That one was a bit cleaner (the knob to lift the blade via the worm gear was also the dozer's exhaust pipe) though it was virtually unmovable thanks to the small gears constantly catching the tracks and not meshing with them properly. I imagine one of the reasons for using the clutch gears is to try and fix that issue?... Though why they would choose to revisit an '09 set to fix an issue is pretty strange. The tele-handler was the same story, but at least that one got released in a new color scheme whereas this one is just in the same yellow as before.

[@АлексейТимаков-м8е]

Any worthy alternative build from rebrickable cost like smal lego set. So you have to pay twice

[@klaus.sfc01official30]

A real bummer considering B-models would have been perfect for the space sets.

[@notmacabelymml]

The new line up for January 2024 looks ok. My favourite is certainly the 42167 MACK garbage truck. Sad to see the B models go :(

[@peteschildknecht4411]

I really don't mind the lack of B models. I am however disappointed it the size of the Harvester and the Garbage truck. I was hoping for something bigger with possible Powered Up upgrade.

[@Chayov80]

Now all we need to finish the John Deere forage harvester is a trailer to transport the silage

[@RolandTHX]

Relying on the fan community to provide alternate builds is like Bethesda putting out buggy games and counting on the modding community to fix all their problems for free on top of paying for DLC.

[@ageary]

Some of my favTechnic builds were the B models.

[@tomde2360]

Lego, a company whos biggest achievement in the past couple of years was to drastically increase set prieces while at the same time drastically decrease set/part quality. It's hard to believe someone would really think Lego will dedicate the designers time and resources into new models instead of b-models :D :D :D

[@zaphodbeeblebrox8184]

I`m quite surprised how many small technics sets will be available in January, these looks very playable and with interesting functions and solutions. For B-models, well, I`ll just use rebrickable... Good job as always Balasz, have a nice Christmas! :)

[@constellar6330]

The loss of the Technic's most exciting feature is sad, but expected though.

[@gb9727]

Would like to get 42167 and/or 42168 at some point

[@superhunk1989]

The garbage truck set looks awesome and interesting. By the way, (in my opinion) the alternate builds from Rebrickable are better than the B-models from the Lego sets. So, Lego doesn't need to hire more employees and make extra costs to make sets with B-models. I buy an affordable Lego set rather than a super expensive set with B-models.

[@jmert_5859]

I would like a larger version of the John Deere Harvester.

[@denisdzd5487]

So it's ok to mix system cabin in Twchnic in harvester, why they didn't do with a cabin in Mack? It would look much cooler with System bricks cabin fittable for minifigs. I'll do it on my own.

[@casperhansen826]

If there are no B-model than I don't have to buy two of each set...as if I ever did that🤭

[@ISAFMobius18]

i dont mind seeing the B models go. i always enjoyed making the A model most, as with technic specifically, taking them apart and rebuilding them can be a real pain. Plus the B model didnt always utilize all the parts and there were lots of left overs. So having just the one model design is fine with me.

[@R0Sch88]

R.I.P official alternate Technic builds. Surprised they didn't downscale the 3-in-1 in CREATOR to 2-in-1 too. Corporate want's to increase cashflow, since the growth in 2023 was not higher than the pandemic era. Honestly I'm surprised they still employ LEGO Designers and not outsource the work to fan designers to save even more development costs. Since they leak themselves most of the times, it shouldn't be a bigger risk either. P.S. Just buy the previous sets second-hand if you like alternate builds and want to show LEGO that you hate this decision. Bricks can be washed and reused for generations.

[@jonthefuzz]

I have never built a B model, also my favorite is the NEOM McLaren Extreme E Race Car.

[@jeannedarcalterberserker8620]

As someone who bought the John Deere tractor, the harvester is must for me. It looks cool, but the Mack is amazing too as a truck guy. I'll get the harvester by release, but the Mack I want to see a review of first.

[@Thinginator]

The loss of b-models is mostly a bummer for kids with limited internet access or who don't know about rebrickable. It'd be interesting if LEGO bought rebrickable or created their own version of it so people could upload alternate builds and instructions for them. This would also serve as a form of advertising for LEGO, as someone might not be interested in a set until they see an alternate build of it that they like, and then they decide to buy it to build the alternate model.

[@xanaxbax8329]

To the B model stuff Never was a huge fan of them because all of them where looking a bit of idk how do describe it so I wound miss them

[@CaptainNomae]

I think rebrickable is a good solution for the end of b models. Would be interesting to see if LEGO does something more official as a partnership with them.

[@joefaracevideos]

The sad news for me was no more Monster Jam monster trucks. I loved'em. Me, I liked the little bulldozer

[@BikeNewLondon]

The Technic Forage Harvester seems much more suitable for play than the vintage Expert Builder tractor I picked up this year in an auction lot. The tractor itself was great (and very complete in a bin of parts!) but the cultivator accessory does not like to stay together at all. One pass down the table and something comes apart. Maybe some lost clutch in 40 year old parts! Love the video, and also sad that we don't get that little extra from LEGO in the form of official B sets. Have to buy the 3 in one's I guess!

[@jdriley24]

I'm not going to miss the B models, as I never built them, plus the fact the instructions were online only sucked as trying to use my phone screen to follow the instructions was a nightmare on a couple of other kits

[@encaged314]

I'm not too upset about the missing B models. There's enough variety on rebrickable that it's not a big deal.

[@bami2]

I bought multiples of some sets just so I could have both the A and B models next to each other.

[@bricdoo7483]

The removal of Monster Jam and B models is really disappointing. I seriously hope they bring them back.

[@RCBladeKing]

42163 is pretty cool. I like the crowd sourced B models. Specifically, the speed champions charger hoonigan V2

[@blubbntroet]

Funny how even a bad move like missing B Models is being excused like that… just sad calling this a win win 😡

[@Nobody-ue5qs]

little disaspointed that the garbage truck isnt a "full size" set,but still looks cool,oh yeah and B models going away makes me sad :(

[@Shorjok]

Really liking the look of the little buggy, it's nice to see technic hasn't totally abandoned the rescue yellow colour and it's nice to see it return in a cheaper set, albeit there aren't many pieces in the set in that colour still. Lack of b-models is sad, but it won't really bother me too much as I never usually built them- but it's a shame kids won't get to rebuild small sets into alt builds from the instructions.

[@rvallenduuk]

So after 25 years the Mud Masher (#8226) finally gets a successor... sort of. Mud Masher had 4-wheel steering and no engine. I've always liked it because of its interesting and unique steering and often wondered why they never used that mechanism again. That's put 42164 at the top of my January shopping list. I won't miss the B-models to be honest. I rarely built them, with the exception of the motorbikes.

[@KannX]

Gonna buy that Garbage Truck for sure. Looks great and I like these kind of machinery (got Heavy Duty Excavator and Lego City Mobile Crane :) )