The END of DJI? Caddx Walksnail GoFilm 20 and Goggles X Review

[@konstantinmartens]

Thanks for the review! No idea why DJI is allergic to putting HDMI outputs in their goggles. The Walksnail system looks like a good alternative

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Watch Mads Tech (Ian) latest two videos if you think Walksnail is a good way to go! You can't even get parts for the original Walksnail goggles to fix them... And he says they're only 2 years old and no parts! Geez! The new X Walksnail goggles overheat. Overheating is one of the worst problems you can have with electronics because it can easily take down your entire goggles! Burn out circuit boards, melt parts, etc, etc. Not a good thing to have an issue with! Plus, they're VTX's have a reputation for failing or burning out quite often! Good luck if you go with them... I sure won't! Sounds like a Dead End! 😥🤬

[@parallax_aerial_photography]

I get around the no-hdmi issue through a special hub plugged into my phone, but yea it's really not ideal... Either that or I just run my feed directly through to a larger device like an iPad or Android tablet 🤷‍♂

[@robw5735]

​@KOrnhOliO1 what a load of crap Mr dji fanboi lol

[@konstantinmartens]

@@KOrnhOliO1 Ty for the heads up, I'll check out the videos by Mads Tech!

[@konstantinmartens]

@@parallax_aerial_photography I thought about getting the Cosmostreamer box, but it's kinda annoying that there has to be a work around. Finger crossed for the G4

[@mk_quattro]

I love your honest opinions! That is very rare in today world, please keep it up

[@drelephanttube]

The problem with the 1200mW may be the antennas? The ones on the GoFilm are smaller and not polarized like the ones that come with the moonlight kit.

[@Rimzler]

Maybe, still on DJI everything works perfectly even with pigtails, also I used what was sent to me by caddx themselves ahahah

[@BlueHornetFPV]

I'm pretty happy with them. But definitely noticed the lack of penetration compared to DJI. But I've been using patches on the bottom. Has helped a lot. One thing you forgot to mention is how much faster it connects compared to the 03. Which seems to take longer than expected. It's in its way to be extremely comparable. Looking forward to seeing the system improve. Great review buddy! 🙌🔥

[@flo8273]

I had the old walksnail goggles with truerc antennas and the penetration was amazing. But as i switched to the goggles x, penetration was gone

[@lonelyroamer]

Also with the truerc antennas and GX, the penetration was bad?

[@flo8273]

@@lonelyroamer had them on. Nothing really changed much

[@SeeFPv-qm6ie]

I’m switching for sure if dji gets banned 😢

[@Rimzler]

I hope they get good enough people switch regardless

[@cipri198zero]

I’m in tears with that chicken🤣🤣🤣🤣 you’re very funny😂

[@user-mj1wb7qj1f]

Great review! I keep reading the stock antennas are bad and I would love to see a follow up with different antennas like the patch antenna they are selling. But I wonder why they would include bad antennas that make the product look bad.

[@_tcmore]

The goggles are kind of bad too lol. Not for everyone but for a percentage that is much higher than it should be these goggles are nothing but problems. I've sent a set back because they died. They sent me new ones that ended up going into an unrecoverable boot loop. They sent me a new motherboard. Got them working again. Now either the button board stopped working or the connector deep inside the goggles for the board has become disconnected. Mind these goggles go from my head to the case every single time. I simply cannot trust the goggles and even comparing to my DJI vistas I will take those over WS all day. That is unless you are putting it on a tiny whoop. If DJI released a single board VTX it would most likely be the end of WS unless there's really that many DJI haters.

[@garagedoor3831]

Great video once again, there are a few things thats you can improve. First of all this drone has linear antenna's instead of lhcp. This drops the range by about -3db. And on top of that the stock walksnail antenna's on the goggles are also not the best. You should put patch antenna's on the top and onmi on the bottom of the goggles. Doing these things you should be able to double the range you get. But like i said, great video once again. Keep up the good work.

[@elxero2189]

Don't have a dog in this fight, but someone should really let him know that the DJI system has a patch antenna, a good one at that, compared to the crap omni caddx ships with their unit and that if he really wants to check the performance he cooild maybe get a couple good patches and omni for the thing before expecting it to penetrate through all that.

[@Rimzler]

I am testing stock vs stock really, avatar goggles have a 5th antenna in the top and that's a patch, so figured it's a fair comparison and shows what you get out of the box Of course both goggles can be improved with aftermarket antennas

[@Gowieee]

No issues with my walksnail signal. Albeit on a 5” quad. Apparently goggle antennas are quite bad stock.

[@420247paul]

But you know the antennas are bad and give bad signal?

[@Gowieee]

@@420247paul Apparently. I have had no issues with them.

[@kadw3004]

Are you using LHCP antennas from Moonlight kit? Those are not great but better than linearly polarized ones on GoFilm20

[@Gowieee]

@@kadw3004 actually no I am not. I have the wrong antenna currently. I swapped my quad from analog to walksnail and retained the RHCP antenna until the LCHP arrives. Goggles X are the stock LCHP ones.

[@FPVFRASHA]

ill stick to 03 after watching this but thanks for the review per usual mate!

[@sten6537]

Nice review. btw there is no walksnail user thats flying at 1200mW because it's mostly unstable or noisy they say. 700mW is the sweetspot.

[@juno0314-o9o]

I think I prefer dji more can't go wrong with that

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Yup, at least it's reliable and parts are available. No parts for Walksnail already! See Mads Tech's last two videos.. . 😎👍

[@kkazakov]

The main issue with video signal is the drone's pathetic antennas. Even when you replace all antennas with good ones on the Goggles X, the drone is crippled as a range, sadly. I fly WS and achieved 3+km so far ( still improving down the road ).

[@ilgaluccio4632]

Don't use stock antennas, they are trash 😅

[@kkazakov]

True, I use 2x iFlight Crystal LHCP + CaddX patch antennas and I achieved 3+km range. The main problem is the GoFilm20's crappy antennas, they can't transmit far.

[@lonelyroamer]

@@kkazakov Thanks, I have to try. I have 2x stock antennas and the Caddx Patch but I had bad signal experience. I already own the iFlight Crystal because I use them on my DJI V2. I have to try.

[@can5projects563]

yeah lets go Gallinas run baby run

[@Chillin-fpv]

😂 the chichen chase

[@cipri198zero]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@pimenett]

I've the V1 goggles and different VTX: 2 pieces of the very first vtx and they perform very different, one of them has better performance than other one, I don't know why. I have two of the 'naked' vtx (the V2) and they perform great on 500mW (the max power of these boards). I'll remain with this system until there will be an alternative for my beloved toothpicks

[@DanieleBordignon]

So it's a competitor for O3, right. 2 years later. "The camera is better than O3, but not for recording"... Well, just a little issue, isn't? Now we have O4, how in the world this should scary DJI? Also what about RTH, emergency stop and all the drone functions? (this is a full rtf kit so it should be compared apples to apples with Avata). Night vision? Yes, pretty good and better than DJI, as always Caddx has been.

[@ADITYAKUMAR-yt2ry]

I think video signal is lagging due to not having a good vtx Antenna .

[@judeabrigo278]

nice review as usual

[@Eddastuff]

The bad range is 100% the stupid Linier antennas on the quad put some circular polarised antennas on it

[@kadw3004]

I think the poor range is due to the antennas on the quad. 1. The quad antennas are linearly polarized while the Goggles X have circular polarized antennas. This results in 3dB loss! 2. Circular polarization is way better in this area. It can deal better with multipathing 3. The efficiency of those whip antennas is probably poor 4. The quad antenna placement is wrong. It is covered by the battery and frame

[@wasacz_5000]

you can test TrueRC or other better antennas

[@jonathanrau4676]

Drone slap in the face 😅

[@robw5735]

Change the whip antena for a lollipop one, no dji fan bois ain't gonna tell you that lol

[@jbholland1987]

whitout seeing the video, if someone says ''the END of DJI?'' you know enough right? The drone sucks. Oke i will watch the video now.

[@ItsMeKevinFPV]

uh no! 🤣

[@GigaBit-i2j]

The clickbait title is soo funny.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@LemurLogic]

And again a very good review, I'm so upset sold my Goggles Integra and Avata 1 to upgrade to Avata 2 and now since 6 weeks my O3 Air Unit Quads are grounded. :

[@luisLP5752]

Why are they grounded?

[@LemurLogic]

@@luisLP5752 because currently O3 air unit is incompatible with Goggles 3

[@macintosh6994]

Let's be realistic. It's NOT the end of DJI lol

[@YOKokob]

Lol maybe the o3 system but as soon as they drop the 04 unit it’s game over for the rest

[@macintosh6994]

@@YOKokob Honestly I kinda wish they will release O4, and Dji goggles 3 will be compatible, because that would spare me a great amount of money (yup, I bought avata 2)

[@rainsquadfpv]

​@@YOKokobprobably not all the systems are tools used in different situations but until dji comes out with a race vtx whoop vtx dji won't be better then any systems yes it's got good image and penetration some situations but it not about the system now adays it's about what you can afford because everything getting expensive

[@YOKokob]

@@rainsquadfpv good point

[@parallax_aerial_photography]

@@macintosh6994 oh they will, probably a few months from now... The Avata came out in August of 2022, with the O3 following a little over 3 months later in November. DJI is fairly consistent with their release cycles, so I'd expect the O4 to come late July/early August. When it does I'll be upgrading some of my fleet (the ones I use on actual shoots) and passing their O3s down to my for-fun quads that are still using the OG air units and Vistas

[@shredhugow]

That thing is not even close to o3 , imagino to o4.

[@cristian_c]

There is a fish eye efect...

[@importon]

the recorded video quality is very bad. colors are trash and oversharpened

[@EduardoAranda]

Hi Rimzler, as a WS pilot, i can tell you that the stock goggles antennas are not great, if you want the best RF performance swap the antennas, also try 700mw and 25mb bit rate, for some reason 1200mw are buggy/not reliable

[@Konnanx]

can you give some recommenadtions for the antennas?

[@EduardoAranda]

@@Konnanx i am using foxeer patch antennas and rushfpv stubbies

[@derivas007]

@@EduardoAranda does it still buggy 1200mw

[@SwagFPV]

If change your googles x antennas it increases your range drastically. Also the linear antenna on that drone decreases the range, swap it for a LHCP antennas

[@Rimzler]

Thank you for the tip! I tested it stock how it comes from manufacturer

[@valanci.official]

AYO SWAG - CAN YOU PICK "VIDEO NOT MEANT FOR KIDS" OPT WHEN UPLOADING SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS VIA COMMENTS . AND IT ENABLES PIP PLAYBACK .

[@autohog]

What antennas do you recommend?

[@caesar5555]

What if you wear glasses? Do they have the dioptric lenses as DJI 3?

[@Toksuri1]

you can change to match your vision between like +-5

[@rodrigo_correia]

The chicken is running from KFC at full speed!

[@makarov9610]

The antenna is very bad…..try with better antenna

[@RioLai_]

Thanks for the review! Flywoo just released a Moonlight version of the Flylens 85, would you recommend the GoFilm20 or the Flylens 85 with Moonlight or the YMZ X1 with a moonlight? I've been looking for a 2inch cinewhoop with for park freestyling and there's so many options...

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Nick Burns says the Flywoo Flylens 85 is the way to go... His favorite of over half a dozen. But, watch Mads Tech latest two videos on parts availability for Walksnail! No way I'd buy into a system with no parts for repairs! 🤔👍

[@parallax_aerial_photography]

Probably the Flylens. Flywoo have a proven track record of building decent quads, good availability of spare frame parts, and more experience tuning. The GoFilm is cool, but it's a first attempt and, based on the propwash handling exibited in this video, a pretty mediocre one... Good on them for trying something new though. Only company other than DJI to build both the drone and the VTX, and that can have some advantages

[@lonelyroamer]

@@KOrnhOliO1 He talks about the older goggles. Because also they were Fatshark manufactured. In the past, Caddx always send me replacements.

[@alliroggorilla]

i ordered the flylens85 moonlight yesterday, its just 2s but i like flywoo

[@RioLai_]

@@alliroggorilla Once you receive it could you review it or report back if it's fine? I'm mostly worried about the increased weight of the full moonlight kit affecting the flight performance of the 85. Also on the website, according to the picture, it doesn't make sense how the bucket is attached to the main frame as the holes are aligned under the prop which doesn't make sense...

[@TheViaNuova]

Lest hope the announced hardware upgrade with a total new transmission system that should come in August is good. I really want walksnail to be good beacuse i dont really like dji as a company, but its very far ahead atm

[@Rimzler]

Me too, would love seeing something that can compete with DJI and offer more freedom, or even hopefully one day outperform DJI, that would be the dream

[@MAYLOFPV_Drone...]

Do you have more information about the new hardware?

[@MAYLOFPV_Drone...]

Do you know more about it ?

[@Rimzler]

I have some new hardware here about to be reviewed, they posted some updates but have yet to test everything

[@MAYLOFPV_Drone...]

The upgrade for walksnail? For better range?

[@sten6537]

Goggle antenna's are fine I belive (but ofc TrueRC is better) but the antennes on the drone are bad I believe. No polarisation.

[@Smagsfpv]

I just watched a Mr. Steele video from like 6 years ago where he was flying bando's in Italy,was that you in the video that the strap on the backpack broke and fell?

[@d00mfish]

I use the Googles X for some time now and they're awesome. But the O3 still has the best AIO Camera for small Drones

[@DronePsyche]

Come on man. If any system is in question is Avatar. Click bait.

[@AdrianGeist]

What do you think of the new Avatar GT kit? Is this good news?

[@TailSpinRCSpain]

I'll stick to my analogue setup thanks, LOL.

[@zoltangyarmati7698]

the latency at 10:30 was very visible

[@Invid72]

That's fair. I will admit that I haven't touched my analog stuff since I got DJI a few years ago. I should convert it over because it's just sitting there.

[@NaiahYabes]

do you use angle mode?

[@Quad_Father]

Great review! DJI is still #1 then Walksnail #2 and then hdzero eons behind as far as image quality and range and penetration.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Agreed!

[@MPQuads237]

Thanks for the honesty.

[@ronniequalls7217]

Walksnail is gonna eventually take over the digital market !!!

[@serval_fpv]

Lmao sure they are

[@brandon9689]

I just went with an Avata 2 kit, and practicing on that until the goggles 3 get unlocked for other units. If I'm eating my words and hating DJI in 2 years so be it. 1.2 watts seems like a ton of power to still be lagging out at those ranges. I've read and watched way too many stories of problems out of the box with Walksnail.

[@LochnessFPV]

I wish you went for HdZero rather than Caddx…especially with the half-baked development on those goggles….

[@calebthomasralph]

Hdzero has a totally different purpose. The Moonlight system was designed to get useable footage without the need for a second camera. It prioritizes image quality over latency. Hdzero doesn’t even attempt to do that. Hdzero is designed to prioritize low latency over all else. It doesn’t have an onboard DVR, and the goggles footage is totally unusable besides just documenting a flight. Hdzero is great for racing, or drones that will always carry a GoPro. It is not an option for small cinewhoops that are attempting to capture usable footage without a second camera.

[@LochnessFPV]

Totally agree, but rather than believing that Caddx footage is usable (it’s really NOT), better having an HDZero for a good controlled flight, and a go pro for professional footage. In the end of the day not even the o3 is that great for commercial use. Only o4 can be considered, but at what price and flight characteristics!

[@calebthomasralph]

@@LochnessFPV I think the Moonlight (and O3) are totally usable for commercial applications like real estate flythroughs, virtual tours, event fly arounds, etc.. It seems like thats exactly what this type of whoop is designed for. Are you going to get cinema quality footage? No, not even close. Are you going to get "usable" footage for quite a few applications, I think so. I fly a 5" with a full stack, HDZero, and a GoPro and a 5" with a 55A AIO and a WS VTX. Lately, I enjoy flying the (much lighter) WS quad a lot more. The flight footage is also very nice for my application (non-professional). I also run WS on my Holodonata and AOS 3.5 EVO. Running a gopro on those wouldn't be practical at all.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

No way I'd buy Walksnail! 🤬 Ian (Mads Tech) found out you can't even buy parts for the original Fatshark (Walksnail) goggles and he said they've only been out 2 years, and they're done. The newer X goggles have overheating problems. From being in the electronics industry for over 35 years, I have seen overheating issues and it's about the WORST PROBLEM you can have because overheating can easily take down the entire goggles for good! Burn up a circuit board or smoke the entire insides. Since the parts are already not available for the original goggles I wouldn't expect great access to parts for the new X goggles either! It's kinda ridiculous!! Nick Burns X goggles have already failed on him. People give crap to DJI for everything under the sun but as Ian said, you could send in your 2019 DJI V1 goggles to DJI for repair and they'll send them back to you working perfectly. Service is one of the many things DJI is known for. Too many haters, IMO, as without DJI we very likely might not even have digital FPV right now. And, DJI's VTX's are near bulletproof with almost no one ever having a failure. Walksnail and especially HDZero are known to have failures and burnouts of VTX's galore! One reviewer quit flying HDZero completely because he was sick of paying to replace all of the many, many VTX's that had failed for him. Glad I didn't buy either of those often faulty systems!

[@mwhizzler476]

While I agree with the WS sentiment, in my experience I’ve had 0 issues with HDZero. I have 03 and HDzero and basically don’t fly my 03 quads anymore. I do agree with DJI being bullet proof and “just works” but all I can say with HDzero is don’t knock it till you try it. DJI will crush in terms of range and penetration, but for pilot experience HDzero wins for me. Until DJI comes up with a 1s board (which will be never) or a lighter VTX so you could actually have fun with a 2” DJI drone or smaller, the other systems will have a place. Since it’s too much of a hassle to bring 2 sets of goggles I only fly HDZ, That way I can have everything from 65mm up to 5” when I go out for a day of flying. That being said I do think they both have their uses, I’m certainly not a DJI hater, I have tons of DJI gear in general.

[@danielleinad6019]

@@mwhizzler476I re-entered the FPV hobby after a 4 year break and went straight for HDzero. I fly micro quads exclusively and the small form factor and relatively low price point of those HDZ systems are a win for me. There's nothing better than flying a HDZero Whoop around the garden.