The END Of DoorDash Dashing In 2024

[@YourDriverMike]

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[@Throughthelurkinglass]

Remember when random challenges and rewards would pop up, Pepperidge Farm remembers🤣

[@bann5trollking780]

Doordash is ending? GOOD! Next time THINK before wasting your damn time. Yes, some customers are no tipping rich douchebags but not all can afford tips and not all drivers are entitled idiots but you all should stop falling for these greedy corporation scams, find a new job and start doing street hustles or countless other means to make money! Oh it's not realing ending? Well sad cause that means this dumb app will keep destroying people's lives :(

[@jimcable9689]

It's not hard to prevent a bubble burst; Just combine anything under 4 dollars with another order for delivery. As long as doordash does that, and, warns the customer low pay is low priority , the bubble won't pop. Just keep minimum offer to dashers just above half of federal minimum wage ( 7 dollars) , and, people will stick with door dash. I , according to the app, have some of the best ratings in st. Louis. My acceptance rate has always been between 74 & 90 % . I'm pretty sure that staying with a 4 dollar minimum payout, based on combining orders, would likely solve any problems. : )

[@jimcable9689]

My goals for dashing are also simple; I wanted a job as a delivery driver. Delivery driving is honestly what I wanted to do, after realizing local legislation outside of my state, would be likely to " shutter" any attempt to create a supplementary alternative energy market, and, prevent cheaper solutions for single appliance operation, like hobiest cd solar panels in series, or, pyrazo high efficiency radio pickups, as opposed to solar rental contracts, with higher efficiency, higher cost models, that, dont even allow for aingle buyer responsibility, with epwctronic waist. They are already forcibly shutting down wind farms & solar Churches and homeless shelters in the US. There is.... Kind of no way my energy science interest and encouragement of home building , fixing, and self reliance, wouldn't be met with lawsuits, just like that church was. : ( So, yeah. I read & listen to a lot of scary stories, and, I live in one of those cities, where, the delivery guy is called before the police, to see who gets there first. I figure ; it works with my goals, I like the job, and, people ENJOY rating my efficiency, next to public utility. Might as well do the job I like. : )

[@billoutofmypoopbutt69cj29]

😮😂

[@matthewjefferis1096]

DoorDash base pay is now based on how much the customer tips not the order size or distance required to travel. Basepay should not be lowered because the customer gives a good tip

[@samueljones7495]

That’s not exactly how it works. Base pay in my market is $2 to start. But every time someone declines the order it goes up. So if an order has no tip it’ll naturally go up until the base pay is high enough for it to be worth it. If an order has a high tip the order will just be accepted first thing so the base pay will stay at $2.

[@kev7161]

Rarely do I see a base pay more than $2 (not including shopping jobs). This may mean that there are plenty of drivers willing to pick up all the crap offers so there's little need to raise the base pay. I get plenty of offers on almost all my shifts, but easily 90% are crap so it's a lot of sit and decline. If these smaller offers were only a mile or two, then great. I'd take those all day. Sadly, they're like $4.50 for 8.7 miles or something.

[@internetgod5407]

I came to this realization a while back when one morning I took an order that was $10 for 8 1/2 me I normally wouldn't have taken that order but it was early on a Saturday morning with no traffic and mostly highway miles it wound up being $8 base pay with a $2 tip. My next order was almost identical 1025 for about 8 Miles I took it because it was taking me right back to where I wanted to go 8.00 tip 225 base pay

[@ZachariaZuehlke]

I hope not that’s how they got sued just like the other gig apps that play with our base pay vs tips. Actually I got 9 grand in an out of court settlement with instacart so actually… keep doing that DoorDash 🤣

[@TheXxemarosaxx]

Your completely right it’s $2 base pay even when I drive 10+ miles

[@TheSideGigGuru]

As a full time gig driver for almost 9 years now I have always had the mindset that these companies work for me, I don't work for them. If they don't send me offers worth my time I don't do business with them. I'm signed up for 8 apps, if it's slow I turn on apps till I get what I want. I don't let them dictate my income.

[@pepsilove6306]

1911 deliveries on doordash with a AR of 49% SR of 4.87 outta 5. on uber my AR is 21% with a SR of 100% with 874 deliveries. been doing it for 2 years but only november to march each year [I do lawncare and my plow truck broke XD]@@VaddyFC

[@jeffw1267]

So what do you do when NONE of the apps send you orders that you deem acceptable? Because that's coming.

[@TheSideGigGuru]

@VaddyFC On DD I'm at 10% and I get the same high paying orders top dashers get all day long... I encourage you to learn why the app chooses a driver instead of drinking the company cool aid... They've never said they want drivers to make more money... just that their drivers make money. I'm over 30k transactions on all the apps.

[@TheSideGigGuru]

@jeffw1267 That's why I have so many apps, I'm never slow... I also don't just turn on the app and hope for the best. I know where my transactions are coming from because I plan for it, and know when I'm going to be busy.

[@LadySpeaks]

​@TheSideGigGuru How do you still get good orders? My acceptance is low on DD and they've been punishing me for it. I hardly get any orders at all. I had to give up on them and move to another app.

[@lumber-jack-8822]

My acceptance rate is 1%. I’m personally proud of it.

[@YourDriverMike]

Are you multi-apping and at least getting other strong requests? Hopefully not just waiting around for an hour for one $12 order? Best case waiting at home and just seeing what comes through?

[@bronichiwa984]

Do you just schedule all your dashes? Dash Now is something I want back... just started door dash. Took dash now for granted... now I miss it.

[@georgefehr624]

I see unavailable a lot of times on doordash I wait for it to say dash now I might schedule a shift.

[@georgefehr624]

I have doordash and uber eats on more Uber offers then doordash offers it was the opposite in 2021 when I started gig economy work. I don't try accepting both. Doordash and uber eats orders going in different directions

[@jonathanchapman2920]

Damn you said s lot of nothing. Please use a script in the future.

[@firststatedelivery]

DoorDash and other companies see drivers as competing contractors. The more drivers on a platform, the easier it is for that platform to find a driver willing to deliver goods for less money. More drivers save the corporation money by our inherent need to compete. In my area, I haven't seen peak pay in over a month. What's sad is that drivers blame each other or bad tippers instead of these companies that look at us as commodities instead of people.

[@seanwilliams7655]

This is the proper mindset to have IMO If there's a guy who's delivering in a Rav, some guy in a Camry can do it cheaper The guy in the Corolla can do it even cheaper The guy with the Tesla can go even cheaper The guy on the an ebike even cheapers The guy on the regular bike The guy on the regular bike with a roommate The guy on the regular bike with two roommates And it just goes on. They don't care about you making money. They care about getting those no tip orders delivered. If you can't do it, there's going to be someone desperate enough.

[@barbarastratton442]

That's the truth. My roommate started doing doordash too, and she takes every single order because she is inexperienced and worries about becoming dasher of the month.😮

[@Shotbymic_2]

the algorithm has learned from our behavior for years and it simply takes advantage of that.

[@rachmunshine9474]

@@seanwilliams7655 or just knew enough, I was never seen KZbin videos about this. Most of us go into it pretty blindly. We want to be good little workers and do a good job and we pretty much accept what comes in at first. Then something draws our attention to Facebook post or KZbin video and whatever we haven’t already picked up, and sometimes we are still very new because we’re all into it so we’re like looking things up… but once you see a bunch of DoorDash drivers having a conversation, answering questions people have, etc.- then things are a lot more clear.

[@rachmunshine9474]

@@barbarastratton442 well if it works for her great and if not, she will soon learn. I’m sure you’ve tried to tell her, but sometimes people have to see for themselves. Which can be frustrating for their friends and family. 😂

[@lorenamcgovern]

It's hard to compete with people who are willing to take $2 orders

[@TimErwin]

The stupid people who are basically paying Doordash to make deliveries for them. Funny and sad.

[@DasherStu]

@@TimErwin To save my acceptance rate, absolutely I've done a $2.50 for 1.5 miles. Gas here is $2.27 per gallon and my car gets 30 mpgs. So I literally made over $2.00 on delivering that order. With that being said, my AR is 84% and I average $25 - $30 per hour. I do accept those $7 for like 5 miles because I can get them done quickly and I'm consistently making money instead of just sitting there. Plus I almost never have any downtime and over 70% of my orders are high paying.

[@nocturnus6]

@@DasherStu So you only factor in gas? There's car maintenance, oil changes, taxes. So you don't figure those in?

[@DasherStu]

@@nocturnus6 I did the math already on it. Out of $1,400 on average I make per month, $200 for car payment (Out of a 48 month loan, I will have it paid off in 12 months by May of 2024) and insurance, and $200 for gas. So $1,000 in profit per month that I put into savings. And I don't figure those in because It's only $200 a year in oil changes (2-3 a year. Let's say 3) and $500 every 2 years in tires. You only factor in what you spend month to month and you should ALWAYS save for emergencies. I have also set aside $1,500 for taxes, but I doubt I will even owe that much as I bought my Chevy Sonic this year. And I should be able to write off the purchase of the car and car maintenance on taxes as a business expense. I also just changed the brakes and rotors, suspension, and another part on it that should last another 80,000 miles at least. All that maintenance only cost me another $1,000 and I decided to as preventative maintenance. I guess I should say that I do this as a "Part-Time" job and I have another car and a full-time job. But even so, you don't take your full-time job and from that factor in the car maintenance, groceries, bills, insurance, clothes, etc. into your hourly rate right? Because I bet most people would be like $1 or $2 per hour lol. So let's go by your logic. On Sunday I made $136.43 and drove 60 miles in 4 hours. So that's $4.50 in gas as gas is $2.26 per gallon here. So that leaves $132. Let's take out $32 for maintenance, car payment, insurance, etc. That leaves $100 in 4 hours which is $25 per hour.

[@jeffw1267]

​@@TimErwinYou shouldn't call illegal aliens "stupid".

[@TimErwin]

Doordash kept dropping base pay in my area once they started giving that message telling customers to "tip for faster service." Now base pay is $2, and guess what? Most people still don't tip.

[@TheBetterManInBlack]

My last shift, I started seeing that new base pay model where doubles pay $1 base pay each order. 1 year ago, the same doubles would have paid $2 each order. And tips are dropping.

[@YourDriverMike]

Yeah I heard about that pilot, some customers found it offensive or at least in poor taste. Grubhub has always been in favor of tipping your driver and I never really heard any complaints there. I think it's how DD did it, like hey if you don't tip your order may take longer - doesn't rub the customer the right way.

[@TheBetterManInBlack]

@@YourDriverMike The problem arises because they call that money a tip, when it's clearly not. The customers get angry because they see it as the driver expecting extra just to do their job, and the driver gets angry because they're getting lowball offers. It doesn't even meet the definition of 'TIPS', which is (coming from a half century of restaurant work) to insure prompt service. That implies an obligation, which contractors only acrue AFTER they accept an offer. If DoorDash really wanted to clear things up and make everybody less angry, they should stop calling it a tip, and label it properly as a bid. It would more accurately label the sum as an attempt at enticing a driver to accept the delivery, and stop all the animus over entitled drivers/customers. DoorDash will never do it, though. Their entire business model is based on deception. There's a reason drivers are instructed to under no circumstances show actual receipts to customers. DD is charging a significant delivery fee, AND a significant premium on any item purchased through them, AND, squeezing the drivers more and more, seemingly every day. If they ever let the customer know that that $5+ delivery fee was only the beginning of what it took to get their food, not only delivered quickly, but at all, it would be all over for them.

[@phoenixphire74]

​@@YourDriverMikei actually didnt mind how DD worded it, they knew they had to be delicate about it, and people still had a problem with it. The reality is a cheapskate never likes being called out for their cheapness, even in the most subtle of ways.

[@dragonwarden3285]

@@phoenixphire74 It's offensive now to remind assholes to not be assholes? Wow ok.

[@calir4849]

Yup it's horrible they had the audacity to send me an order like $6 for 16 miles. It's a waste of time.

[@YourDriverMike]

I feel like that's just their algorithm hoping someone takes it, just a hail mary try. Then again a better algorithm would send it to Dashers who typically accept those more often. Perhaps it does, but perhaps there's not enough of those Dashers online currently

[@soda8010]

In my area it’s been bad since beginning of dec. Since January it’s so hard to get on, less promotions and so much more.

[@Hectorszenshopedc]

wtf are you serious that's a crime

[@HDG1651]

They do it to me all the time 😂 F that

[@madcat61207]

At least it was over 5 bucks, saw one today for 2.25! I was like no thanks.

[@theMadDasherFL]

I stopped driving for DoorDash in late 2022. Sometimes I still look at how they are doing. But peak pay is hardly ever there. Only on some weekend nights they give an extra buck. DoorDash is losing customers in my area and Uber Eats is taking over. I switched to Uber Eats completely and I’m happy with the higher and more regular pay.

[@pepsilove6306]

same, I recently switched to uber eats and even tho sometimes it means im sitting in a parklot bored outta my mind for 30 minutes but the orders that pop up are well worth it. pay is decent for way less miles. I just have to keep my adhd in check while waiting.

[@AlyssaTheePatriot]

Yayyy I'm doing more Uber Eats in my area as well. The over saturation is insane, and the professional look of UE just kills. Sorry DD your days are numbered.

[@ZachariaZuehlke]

I have an shiny new Uber account with no completed trips and all I ever get on it is super vague pickup requests that only show me how far the pickup is from me and nothing about the dropoff, order contents, merchant, or my expected pay. Honestly makes me want to yeet Uber in the trash bc that’s not how any of us work lol

[@YourDriverMike]

Thanks for sharing. Curious what makes you feel DD is losing customers to UE in your market? Genuinely asking ✌🏻I wonder if you can find other Dashers, especially new ones and see if they're getting peak pay or not.

[@theMadDasherFL]

@@YourDriverMike I use different methods to estimate market share. I talk to the restaurants I work with and ask them which platform they are preparing more for: DoorDash or Uber Eats. I also observe the bags that are ready for pickup or being delivered. And I keep an eye on other drivers and chat with them. I hardly see any DoorDashers, but I see a lot of Uber Eats drivers. When I dash, I have to wait a long time between orders.

[@JustinsYTchannel43]

I’m very thankful to live in a large college town full of rich people. I don’t remember the last time I didn’t get a tip of at least $5. I dash 50-60 hours a week and make close to 2k each week. I’m absolutely blessed by my market. It’s very sad to see all the other markets where they pay you like $2.50 for a ten mile order. The smallest order I’ve seen in months was $11.50 which had a $7 tip.

[@sadgearmy]

Lucky! I dash 50-60 hrs 7 days/week and am lucky to get 1k/week. Avg is $800/week.

[@JRG333]

I made 175 with 20 hours. I live in a college town with the biggest college in the state but I guess they are not as wealthy. It gives me more freedom I suppose but having to pay my own taxes means I make less (175= 150)

[@danzsanz7004]

That's awesome..40hrs a week for 500 blows

[@battleaxe8252]

You're in the only market in the country that's actually worth it.

[@wwrite]

I too live in a university town and after working all day you are lucky to make $100-$150

[@doctoranderson2009]

These platforms don't want you making money they're the only ones who can make money let them tell the story

[@AlyssaTheePatriot]

And buy McMansions SUVs, and vacations. While we suffer. Smdh.

[@HayzNdaBrainZMuziK]

They should definitely let you give a reason as to why you’re declining a delivery, most of them are due to the miles being more than the pay and that needs to change.

[@tinaderitter7305]

I totally agree sometimes there is a valid reason...especially in cases that you are going in the opposite direction and it's not beneficial to turn around...especially on a divided highway situation.

[@YourDriverMike]

They very recently used to do that, like 6 different reasons you could select. Bet they used it internally for data as it probably did do much for the next offers you received unfortunately

[@creeksiderockmusic]

They dont care!!

[@VelocityLP]

I've always wondered why the hell they ask and give me a bunch of options when the most obvious option that I want to press every time is missing: "Insufficient pay."

[@deltasaves]

I had this issue having to cross county lines (10+ miles from the pickup to the delivery address) and then almost left my state once. I signed up for one area and ended up an almost 3 hour drive from where I was living. Made me quit.

[@memyself637]

I just gave up on DoorDash and UberEats. I got a direct pizza delivery job that pays much better. Also shorter runs and less wear & tear on my vehicle. But I do miss the flexibility of being an independent contractor.

[@meminustherandomgooglenumbers]

Those can be nice especially at a busy place in a nice area, but don’t ever get on the wrong side of whomever is writing your schedule!

[@thewonderingbuddhist6123]

Same thing there's a pizza joint on every corner just find another one

[@indyj16]

Same. But at my pizza shop they wanted all the drivers to start working on the make line, so I quit. I get tips for delivering pizza not for making it

[@UnitedPebbles]

I sometime wonder if it Marco and Vinny ways of convincing me or have me self convince of giving it up?

[@davidcrandall9623]

Lowe’s takes advantage of contract with DoorDash. On 2/15/2024 I got a notice for a door dash pickup at Lowe’s. It was a bit over 11 miles with only a $10.25 amount payed but I’ve never picked up at Lowe’s before and it was mid afternoon so why not. After arriving at store I understood why DoorDash picked me, I have a truck. It was 7 pieces on two roll out carts with one containing 4 packages of shingles estimating 50-60 lbs and 3 large boxes of roofing vents. Lowe’s or customer did not tip. I will never select pickups from Lowe’s again.

[@TheBetterManInBlack]

I haven't dashed in a couple of months. In the 2 months prior, my acceptance rate dropped from a constant (for a running year) 85-87% to a steady 70-73% This is due to more and more offers being sub $4, including 'tip'. I've also noticed that, whenever I break down and take any of those stinkers, my customer rating drops. I tried an experiment for a week where I took anything over $3.25, and went from a steady 4.97-4.98, down to 4.92. Customers who tip like crap also expect stellar service, and seem almost eager to low rate drivers.

[@debbiehughes48]

I’ve noticed that too, when I take crap orders my customer ratings drop even though I give the same exact service to everyone the same!

[@bobby_digital9493]

Misery and entitlement. They pay the fees and think they own the driver for the duration of their order.

[@RogueNation.]

Poor people have entitlement issues. Richer people are more laid back.

[@jjgreen5206]

I’ve found the same thing. It’s really odd

[@jjgreen5206]

@@RogueNation.rich people can be very cheap as well. I tried a few $3 orders and they were very nice homes. I’ve actually found poor people tip better than most rich people because they understand what we go through

[@SongSingsSoprano]

Also there's no peak pay during bad weather. Peak pay used to be +4.50, +5.00, +6.00 when it rains. Now it's nothing. Even during a snow storm, door dash was "very busy," snowing, black ice. But no peak pay.

[@pamm8608]

DoorDash in my area is pushing us to recommend friends to work for DD. I want to recommend that people do not do that. It just adds more drivers to compete with.

[@Tigeabee]

But you get money 😂 mine is at $1,500 now. I’m tempted but don’t know anyone who would. And they say in the ATLANTA area. I’m 40 minutes away from ATL. So they wouldn’t hurt my market.

[@cindibaldwin3429]

Not to mention the terrible everything that comes along with DD. They should say " refer an enemy".

[@jillmorgan2507]

I noticed a huge difference once they were offering the thousands to refer a friend that immediately after I’m not getting barely any good dashes where I live. I’ve been doing this over two years and never had such a lack of good orders ever until now. I’m hoping it stops once they do the 250 orders.

[@pamm8608]

@@jillmorgan2507 Did you get the thousands?

[@juliacarter1280]

​@tigeabenton2174 I'm 40 minutes away from ATL too. I know a lot of people drive there for better tips but I'm not doing it lol.

[@FasterDrivers]

That is why I am finishing building my app. It lowers delivery costs for businesses and customers while increasing driver's earring potential. My app's goal is to earn $40-$60 an hour for drivers who use my app.

[@tadghostal8769]

Subbed lol, best of luck to you.

[@FasterDrivers]

@@tadghostal8769 I am going to be looking for people to test it. We are very close to release!

[@johndemore6402]

? App name

[@mickeyc2137]

what is your app name?

[@A.I.WarFare1947]

Hopefully you won't sell out to the big corps to take out the competition

[@Oz__MTG]

I’m still shocked that a ton of people think it’s just a single company or side hustle. The entire US economy is slowly declining right before our eyes and we’re just ignoring it.

[@jeffcann9159]

These companies were overpaying drivers with burrowed money because they were in growth mode. Profits didn’t matter. Now that they are public companies and can’t burrow money like in 2016-2020 then they have to turn a profit now. So base pay might actually go down further.

[@YourDriverMike]

Agreed there's some major tightening going on right now, especially in the last 2 years

[@growsinhouseherbiculturali1100]

See their stock price lately?

[@jeffcann9159]

@@growsinhouseherbiculturali1100 they don’t make money. If that continues the stock price is going to zero.

[@jonhaynes7262]

Lower than a dollar?

[@RobertEskew]

Over the past three days, I've dashed 5 hr, 22 min. I was active only 3 hr, 41 min. I earned $82.50, which is approximately $15.50/dash hour. I'm a top dasher. My acceptance rate is 78%. At the same time, DoorDash is running a $900 incentive in my market (Missoula, MT) to recruit new dashers. PS No peak pay was offered during my dash hours.

[@meminustherandomgooglenumbers]

Also there’s a bunch of people doing KZbin videos about how much money can be made dashing…

[@YourDriverMike]

Thanks for sharing, gotta say I'm seeing our peak pay really fluctuate. Some weeks it's solid, other weeks it's missing that critical dinner rush slot, nothing.

[@meminustherandomgooglenumbers]

@@YourDriverMike Same is true when you’re working at an individual restaurant. Some days aren’t very busy.

[@JohnSmith-tz4on]

Bullshit.

[@madcat61207]

Ive been averaging like ten dollars an hour. But how can one do that when an order takes a half hour or an hour and pays under 5$

[@InternetOpinion]

Door dash is dead, i remember bringing in easily 1200 a week in 2021, mind you this was without uber, grub hub, and instacart. I could have racked up way more and i was only doing 50 hour weeks. 2020-2021 were the glory days. So much peak pay and orders due to Corona. Ain't the same no more

[@Handsome_Hustler_88]

I remember making 1,100 on DD & 700 bucks on UE in the same week back in September of 2020. That was a very rare week to make good money tho. And i believe i worked 72 hours that week between both platforms. Not anymore. I was deactivated from UE last February (2023) for signing up with two different accounts & I can barely clear 700 bucks a week on DD. I average around 500 a week on DD. I work less hours but that's only because I sign out way more because it's always slow. It's bad out here. I don't mind working over 50 hours a week to clear 1k a week but I can't seem to stay busy enough to stay on the road long enough to do so. I was always busy in 2020 & 2021 so it wasn't uncommon to stay out 12 to 15 hours a day nonstop. now I barely stay out 5 hours a day. I average 25 to 30 hours on the road. smh

[@MrEjohnston]

This explains my experience. I am ready to quit. I am studying for the FAA drone pilot license exam.

[@coolpilot5694]

That's cool. What are you planning to do with your drone license?

[@kojoefante]

@@coolpilot5694Take out a few insurgents 😊

[@GTA1395]

That sounds neat! Good luck!

[@cupidok2768]

does this mean ppl like 2020?

[@overlandski7795]

Door dash has completely tanked in western suburbs of Chicago. Most orders are under $1 a mile sending dashers 10 miles for $8. I officially gave up on it. All there is left is guys driving Toyota priuses because if you have a non hybrid vehicle you are screwed.

[@UnitedPebbles]

Or the pedal guys?

[@unveiledwithouttears1370]

I drive a 6 speed manual, 2012 sentra. It only cost me $15 for gas and its enough to last me all shift. Also, just got the clutch replaced after hitting 100k and the car feels brand new again.

[@HDG1651]

Here in Utah I've started to see tons of Venezuelans driving for doordash with their Hyundai little cars, doordash is ruined here now😂😂

[@Willywmp3]

Yeah bro I DoorDash on my street bike cause it gets like 80mpg in eco mode

[@xX54MXx1]

i love competing for wages with people who stack 20 people in an apartment in subsidized housing.. why we gotta live like this

[@mssuthurncharm]

This has nothing to do with subsidized housing…. You have another issue sir 😮

[@CPRBusinessCoach]

He's on to something honestly​@@mssuthurncharm.....people from other countries with terrible pay come here, get free housing, and have multiple families living in 1 apartment. Thats what allows them to afford to take those $2 & $3 orders. Especially if you come from somewhere that you were making $2 a day 😳

[@SpiceyKy]

You may need a therapist. I don't think KZbin can help you.

[@SpiceyKy]

​@mssuthurncharm Right. Poor thing has issues we can't help with. DoorDash either.

[@xX54MXx1]

​@@SpiceyKyif the labor market wasn't flooded constantly with insane amounts of people which suppresses wages and makes housing unaffordable I could earn enough to ignore such problems . people who tell me it's all fine all make enough to insulate themaelves

[@DDay_8]

The beginning of this had me rolling 😂 because I literally tell people I do doordash full time and 90% of my job is declining orders, 6% sitting and doing nothing, and 4% actually delivering food 😂

[@killzoldyck2177]

Uber eats has always been the best in my area, even going back two years.

[@wwrite]

Same here UE is my app of choice. Better CS, I never worry about AR, Can use Para to pre screen. Have access to decent paying orders without an AR requirement.

[@lorenamcgovern]

The pay per order is way better. Its hard for me to get enough orders though

[@dboi4952]

I used to do Door Dash and it sucked. I recently tried Uber eats and I make at least twice as much.

[@alexgonzalez7395]

Uber eats is dead in my area.

[@wwrite]

@@alexgonzalez7395 That really stinks. In my area all the apps are viable but UE is more driver friendly for me.

[@alexmacias3837]

I had $3 peak pay last night for 4 hours. First peak pay in almost a year. I have a 22% accept rate with 2500 deliveries. Only makes sense for part time work to supplement your main income. Still pull in $700 a week part time to pay off my mountain of debt. Gave me enough money to pay cash for a beater to dash in. The days of making crazy money is over. The bubble is popped. Spark went from $30 runs last year to $10 this year. But drone delivery is a pipe dream in America. Robot vacuums don’t even work consistently going around cords and toys yet. Imagine someone getting hit with a drone and how that would end up

[@troydanielson4766]

The base pay is just not high enough to deliver for Doordash. Inflation goes up and all of the companies are lowering their pay to delivery drivers. Who in their right mind would pick up food from two different restaraunts and then deliver it at two different locations for a $2 base pay( thats $1 a delivery)?

[@aznko2]

This video came out perfect time.. I was DD yesterday and it was outright ridiculous. With All the double digit miles for single digit miles.. no f* way I’m driving 20mi for 9$. 😬😡

[@puertoriqueno24]

I'm new I feel dumb now for taking those 😢

[@urbanteck]

@@puertoriqueno24 It's not dumb if you absolutely need money at THAT moment. I wouldn't make a habit of it though, you need to factor in fuel/time. How much fuel does it take to get to the location, then to return back to the restaurants. If it takes you 30 min to take the 1 order, but could've gotten 2 other runs for the same price or more for less distance then you are just wasting your time. Check your average fuel mileage and figure how much fuel it would take you to drive 20 miles and back. Depending on your vehicle it cost you up to 3$ in fuel to make a round trip, now your pay is 6$. You need to factor in the cost of maintenance items such as brakes, tires, oil etc. The further away the run, the more wear and tear you are putting on your vehicle.

[@rmikel14789]

Hey, the smartest thing you can do is delete the DoorDash app. I promise it’s not gonna get better. Their model is wait for the next dumb person. I know I didn’t like feeling like the fool, figuring out that this model is exploitative. Just quit. I promise McDonald’s will pay more. Almost any job and your local market will pay more.

[@JohnSmith-pt5sg]

I'm seeing something similar in my area now, I went from being able to work lunch time everyday to it not letting me work hardly at all. When I try to schedule, there's ridiculous times like 2:00 in the morning and that's it.

[@pepsilove6306]

I dunno if its the same in every market but in my area, hours to schedule for the day 4 days out are dropped every day at 3pm so if on monday i wanted to claim my shift for friday, i gotta fire up the app and claim that block at 3pm or the hours go poof quickly.

[@virgo4200]

thats DD tryin to treat you like a w2 but not pay you like one@@pepsilove6306

[@srdking079]

My area is only showing up at midnight now since they did away with top dasher here.

[@Sasparillafizz]

They've been messing around with unlock times for scheduling for my area lately. When I wasn't driving alot I could count on getting up early (I normally do that) and schedule my slot for the next week (lunch and dinner) but then they were gone by morning and found at midnight (staying up late for it) it was released and then driving alot found I was unlocked at 9pm then just a couple of days ago noticed the slots were already sliced apart by 9pm and they're unlocking earlier...am noticing as I type 6:20pm the slot is unlocked and available (Chicago suburbs)...so do some early checking as their messing with things.

[@davidmerrill7675]

I usually book my shifts 7 days out. However, I guess I will be a Top Dasher for Feb so it looks like I can book when ever I want.

[@FirmBeliever1007]

I am a new dasher I dash because I’m a mom of three and can’t really get good hours or good pay anywhere, I don’t have the support to work at a company so I have to be a self employed person and find ways to make money even with my children tagging along if necessary.. probably not the best gig but I’m hoping for the best while I am also trying to get start up cash gathered for my new business. Life these days is itself a hustle.. thanks for your content!

[@msc2u1]

I've been Dashing part-time for 3 years now. You will get love bombed by Doordash and then things will fall off. Believe everything about this content and what people are saying.

[@cesarepampena7740]

My AR has fallen to 20%, and it seems that DoorDash is far more likely than Uber to send me really far out of zone despite them being stricter about the zone system.

[@PERTEKofficial]

Yeah, it regularly sends me orders that are 15+ miles away, and often times there’s a restaurant within a mile or two of the customer. Makes zero sense to me at all.

[@virgo4200]

yea i got a starbucks order on DD that sent me 10miles knowing there's a Starbucks on every corner now@@PERTEKofficial

[@alexcerny5881]

That’s just how they’re trying to screw with drivers

[@YourDriverMike]

I usually notice more volume on Uber Eats surprisingly but it never surges so I'm probably seeing more because there's less UE drivers than DD here. Not even worth base pay UE runs, just 1:1 dollars to mile pay

[@PERTEKofficial]

@@YourDriverMike I’ve noticed the volume of orders on UE is much higher than DD in my market, but the vast majority of them are terrible offers. My AR on UE is around 2%, it’s useful for multiapping and running Para to auto-decline all the terrible offers though. Frustratingly enough, the only time I get good pings on UE is when I’m already on a DD order anyways. At least I can use that to increase my earnings if both orders are going the same way, which happens more often than you’d think it would

[@magic3400]

I'm very new, but one thing I wish the app did was tell dashers what type of structure (apt, office, house, warehouse, etc). My on-time rate takes a hit everytime I can't find the place.

[@texasgina]

Yeah specially at night when apartment buildings don't have numbers on them or they have the lights out or the trees are hiding the numbers it's really difficult because sometimes the map doesn't work it only shows you the leasing office and not the apartment building

[@texasgina]

I'm an asthmatic I've had COVID and pneumonia and my lungs aren't so good anymore and I had an asthma attack Sunday night walking up 3 flights of stairs and there's no way to know what floor someone lives on or if there's an elevator until after you pick up their order. And see the apt number. I called Door Dash today and they said they would pass it along but they don't really care they don't want you to know if it's in an apartment complex because you might reject the order

[@MichaelTracyCA]

I did door dash all during the pandemic....but after pandemic ended door dash started going down until I literally could not get any orders. So I switched to ride share.....and that worked until Dec 2023 when ride share tanked......all of the gig companies are now paying as low as they can and there are drivers who will take those orders even though they are dont make any money if you count how much it cost in gas and how much it cost to repair your car and keep it on the road. Basically working for a tax deduction, not to make a living wage.....but now even that is disappearing for me. I am not going to drive for free....some people are driving people around for free but have not figured that out yet.

[@rmikel14789]

Don’t worry they will. And they will be very angry when they do. When that happens it translates to bad word-of-mouth and Goodwill, oh, sorry negative Goodwill, it’ll catch up. I want to be there with champagne shorting their stock. I can’t wait. Couldn’t happen to better people, they need to go out of business.

[@mikerosier5945]

It’s funny at the beginning of the video, everyone’s complaining about low ball orders. In my area im not even able to start a shift let alone receiving bad orders. From dusk til dawn all you will see is the gray screen even on the weekends. So unfortunately, i had to go back to 9-5😂😂😂. The Gig lifestyle is over as we know it.

[@davidharvell3191]

I do Uber Eats as a side hustle and right now I'm earning less than 50% of what I was earning this time last year

[@pepsilove6306]

last year the pandemic was just ending so that probably played into how busy and how much we made, this time last year my area places still has masking orders and places had limits on how many people could be inside. everything is wide open now so more ppl are going out and the ppl who still want delivery know drivers r fighting each other now for money.

[@belenpadilla7834]

I personally limited myself from getting doordash deliveries because I noticed the dasher would drop off another order before mine, and in that time that it had been ready was about 20 plus mins to get to me. My food came cold. I was upset because I tipped good. I might as well just get it myself.

[@madcat61207]

Now there's a novel idea that I fully support. Sometimes restaurants are busy. But maybe not every dasher is using their hot bag, like I do. I do get your frustration because i experienced that too with ubereats. What i didn't like is how they tag someone eles order onto yours, but deliver the other one first even though you ordered first. I do sympathize with your frustration.

[@DaveDepilot-KFRG]

i'm a new dasher doing this part-time as a side gig. i've worked 8 days now, had 47 deliveries. supposedly, i'm supposed to get Priority orders in my first 50. but i've seen only a handful of double digit $$ orders, my biggest $17 but it was about 15 miles each way. my acceptance is 52% because the majority are under $7, i decline everything under $5. i accept some $6-7 orders if they are under 5 miles. most order i see is < $1/mile, including tip. base is usually $2-3 on orders whicvh can be over 10 miles. this is PRIORITY????

[@mjbtics9459]

Keep grinding

[@tarazand1502]

I applied a few days ago and I'm on the waitlist.

[@HalfEatenMedia]

My market offers peak pay if you’re willing to drive in the hood, get stuck in traffic, make no tips and risk getting mugged and killed. But at least you’ll get $2 peak pay

[@UnitedPebbles]

I read the obituary today. Sad. All these people with letter "n" associated to them getting killed left and right all across the hoods of 'merica. City PD's probably getting calls and overly classify of homicidal cases across town.

[@madcat61207]

Yep, noticed that too.

[@zeethree]

Explain to me why the cost of the service went up for customers and the pay for the dashers went down? Where is that extra money DD is collecting going? On stacked orders I used to get paid $3 for the first delivery and $2 for the second. Now I get paid $2 for the first and $0 for the second delivery. How do you slash pay in half for your workers at this time of inflation?

[@kevinc9065]

To improve earnings so people are more likely to invest in their stock. Most companies do what gives the most returns for investors, everything else is secondary.

[@MavVision_0]

I don’t dash much but needed a little extra. I have noticed my zone rarely gives me dash now during peak times. I remember I could almost always turn o. During meal times.

[@madcat61207]

Yeah, they want you to move to their "busy" area and "dash along the way". Then they will look for offers on the way. I think it is better than trying to schedule during peak times, you may not even get orders once you get out there for the promotion, plus there is so much traffic you can't even hardly move. I waited 40 minutes yesterday for a pizza at pizza hut. They were so busy it was 30 minutes before anyone could even speak to me for the first time. How can you make 2 deliveries per hour under those conditions?

[@pete7wiggy]

I quit it for good. My car isn’t horrible on gas but it’s certainly no EV or hybrid. The money I made each night ended up going right back into my gas tank. The final straw was driving 8 miles through dense traffic for a $3 order.

[@madcat61207]

Hey that's 3 dollar an hour, thats good money boss (in case you didn't know, i am being sarcastic)

[@John-q4f1r]

Here in Sonoma Ca. DD has set acceptance standards up to 90% and if you fall below your starting point and cities near by will not even show up on the sheduling page, DD has also over saturated the california market so deprive long time drivers the ability to work and earn a living income.

[@dismurrart6648]

I did it during the pandemic and had to stop when stores reopened. Suddenly i was getting about 1 order every 45 minutes, most of them were an hour wait for food, 10 mile drive, and less than $5.

[@dismurrart6648]

@@madcat61207 we didn't have that. I suspect that's a new thing because so many of these restaurants were content to make people wait an hour, and that's why delivery fees are so much higher

[@KOzzReject]

I door.dashed yesterday for the first time in a year and i averaged $10 an hour. Complete joke. I remember when i was making $30 an hour on door dash.

[@SAsh-zg6ln]

Economy sucks. Idc who u blame but companies have laid off so many people working in tech and professional services. I was making $65/hr working as a recruiter and thought I was living the dream. Then the company I worked for laid us off. Now I’ve been unemployed for over a year and half and used that time to study and pass a certification exam to have a better chance at jobs. Been applying to jobs left and right but no offers. Or I’ll get an offer for $30/hr which wouldn’t even cover my expenses considering I live in LA. Hope things turn around because I’m damn near out of savings

[@girlwithnoniche7852]

It’s was booming durning the pandemic. People are outside now without being side this apps should be use as a particle or side hustle. I would make is a career or way to pay my bills.

[@kenfrost64]

I think I'm done. Lately I've had several days where I get home, do the math, and realize I barely broke even based on gas prices, time, etc. An area that I was doing $20-$30 an hour, has now dropped to about $5 an hour. At this point, Part-time at a McDonalds would pay more.

[@DENADONSPRODUCTIONS]

DoorDash has been sending me $5 orders non stop and telling me they are high paying orders. I don't think $5 for 4 miles is a high paying order. DoorDash needs to pay drivers better. It seems like im losing money working for DoorDash after maintenance, gas and taxes. This is ridiculous!

[@TheBetterManInBlack]

Around here, they claim anything over $1 a mile is "high pay" Frequently, that means a $5 offer starts at the edge of town, you drive 4 miles out, and have to drive 3.5 miles back before you're back where you can pick up another offer. Which seems like not quite $1 a mile if my math is correct.

[@madcat61207]

Oh, yes and let's not forget about having to pull over and chat with support for 30 minutes because the restaurant is already closed. Don't forget to budget the health insurance into your expenses.

[@662lloyd]

I live in Memphis and I’m a top dasher. These days DoorDash is only worth it on Friday or Saturday night. Other wise it’s very unreliable to the point you only make back your gas money.

[@Grimxonic]

I love your no-nonsense videos, you are the best

[@douglasdyer366]

Its overall more cost effective to utilize the new dashers with a two week grace period of higher priority orders. After that it starts to slide and the new people will think the wave will come up and continue to reach for the carrot that is consistantly pushed more and more out of the way until they wise up and join the rest of the ranks of experienced dashers. Door Dash then renews those ranks again. Until that system hits a saturation point to where they will not get new dashers with that carrot on the stick will we see a turn around point. I believe it may be a long time before we see that area reached. I know 20% of people coming out of high shool talk about dashing while they work college and or trade skill studies. That is still a strong pool of new dashers to pull from.

[@JohnSmith-pt5sg]

I think that's what I'm experiencing, after 2 weeks of being able to work every day at lunch for a few hours, now it is complete garbage.

[@seanwilliams7655]

That's the issue with the apps. They just cycle through people. There are new people becoming eligible literally everyday. There's no reason for them to go out of their way to keep anybody.

[@johndoe-ek6vl]

@@seanwilliams7655 that's how amazon did in until they were able to get enough robots.

[@Sasparillafizz]

Guessing DD has embraced just having a churn based DD driver area with most of them passing through in a month or so and driving their costs for deliveries down as much as possible. They're a public company and its profit above all...the only big lever they have is giving the drivers less and less money to increase profits. We're not even in a recession at this point, I can't imagine how ugly it'd get if we got into a real one.

[@johndoe-ek6vl]

@@Sasparillafizz amazon has been doing this for over a decade should be common knowledge by now but lets be real these people are unskilled unqualified for anything. Delivery is rock bottom or busy work for people who really don't need money.

[@jb44448]

Delivery fee and ordering fee kills it. Same with places that do direct deliveries and charge processing fees. Better to just pick it up.

[@_Wheretheflowersgrow]

I wish folks would just band together and take a day or two off so they could see how important the drivers are. People don’t organize but a boycott would help. Folks don’t wanna tip because the order is already so high, which is understandable but the driver pay needs to be raised and they won’t until it’s demanded

[@debbiehughes48]

It’s the same in my market!! Very few just decent orders, it’s taking me twice as long to make the same goal and some days I don’t meet my goal. I’m out 8 hours 5 days a week! I can’t get my acceptance rate over 33 because it’s just crap mostly upside down orders I can’t do those! I will lose money!! I’m in north Alabama! I believe it’s the bad economy causing this. Not to mention DD. has lowered our pay at a very bad time in many markets. I mean really $0.00 for a stack!! Horrible! I just hit 11,000 deliveries and though I love it but I’m going to have to find something else to do very soon!

[@Red88Rex]

There’s a real problem with low dollars/high miles offers, driver oversaturation, and more no tips than ever.

[@YourDriverMike]

Thanks for sharing, yes biggest thing I've seen versus say 3 years ago is the lower payouts on average. I feel like the stellar orders are behind the AR requirement wall of priority access/dasher rewards. Before anyone could get them, now you need 50% AR+ to be favored, doesn't leave much unless there's peak pay.

[@Sasparillafizz]

@@YourDriverMike And of course now there's the 70% (next level for priority after the 50% one) they've got you (and all the other dogs) trying to jump for so you'll accept trash offers to get there. Have also noticed (last night) signing on at 9pm in my market to reserve my slot and it's already picked apart (could only get a good dinner slot)...this is new for me - wondering if they have another time unlock for the 70% now (so the slot was picked apart) or they just made the lunch slot corrupted on purpose so they only get at the moment drivers?

[@madcat61207]

​@@Sasparillafizzi would just leave the app on and once it refresh it may become busy again. That or else just pick a different zone and dash aling the way. Yeah it does try to break up dashes into smaller increments, especially if there is any promotion.

[@Sealed14X]

Think about this though if a Fast-food chain has to pay their employees "Peek Pay" to get them to come in to work during Peek business hours those Fast-Food chains would go bankrupt. My personal feelings are that services like Door Dash are here for tor the short term and I don't think these services will be here 10 years from now. Although with "self-reliance" being a dead value and America embracing a "Service Industry" mentality I could be wrong. I however still think if a business has to offer frequent bonuses to encourage productivity it will eventually fail as a business.

[@madcat61207]

Self reliance being a dead value isn't going anywhere, that is here to stay.

[@denden6130]

My area has slowed significantly in the month of December. My goal is 400 per week. But it has been a struggle this month. I had to switch to Uber Eats to make up the difference. Hope it picks back up. There are promotions but at terrible times.

[@YourDriverMike]

Checking right now I got 7:30PM-9:29PM $2 (not the worst), 11:30PM-1:29AM, 1:30AM-3:29AM -- I mean this is Pittsburgh, we have few restaurants even open at that hour (closer to 3AM onwards). And then more 9:30PM+ -- it's just not doable for a lot of drivers

[@madcat61207]

Yes, exactly, and they know that. This is the impetus behind peak pay promotions, is their way of moving dashers to areas they think will be busy, and has nothing to do with tip frequency. Its because they know we can run fewer orders due to heavy traffic and busy restaurants.

[@ComradeRachel]

Food delivery has always existed but not this gig work model. The best delivery drivers are those who are paid a good set hourly pay and uber/doordash has always been a race to the bottom with trying to pay their drivers the least possible while making the driver handle all their own expenses.

[@madcat61207]

Yes, and they don't have annoying rules against driving for12 hours straight, and working multiple shifts back to back with no break.

[@ericshuff3152]

For reference I’m a vet student doing door dash at night to make some extra money. Peak pay in my college town is usually a dollar but its from 7:30-9:30. I signed up a month ago and it was a referral from a friend with my only incentive being if I get to 260 orders by February 5th I get a bonus of $600 and my friend gets $900. Other than that I feel like about 60% of my orders are worth taking so every once in a while I take a crap one just to keep my AR decent. But if its REALLY busy then I’ll ignore the bad orders cuz I know I’ll get a better one replaced immediately

[@YourDriverMike]

That last part is especially useful, if you can ignore the bad orders, multi-apping or just waiting at home etc, then you should get a better one eventually.

[@UnitedPebbles]

For real? Dude I was at dorm doing business right at this Covid ordeal and this delivery gig appeal to me since it as equivalent as Yale driver position, you know? I cannot resist such promotion??

[@krotsin]

I switched to a bike in my profile even though I use a scooter for delivery for two reasons. First of all DoorDash used to offer me most of the time long rides with little payment. Second DoorDash has unrealistic time frame to deliver. Like I have no traffic to deal with in my city.

[@cornejorge]

I stopped doing Doordash, i was making less than $14 per hour here in Long Island, NY. I rather work at Mcdonald's and make $17 per hour, without having to drive.

[@thelegendaryscratcher1233]

Way more dashers this year then the last 3 years.... My AR went down 30% in one day lol it's getting bad in Michigan

[@joshuah9630]

Here is the common scenario for me: I order two things from McDonalds. No drink, two miles away, based on traffic I wager time from getting food to getting it to me is less than a half-hour, sometimes I've seen it done in 20 minutes, but when you get to where I work you are asked to go drop it off on the third floor (which most do but if they don't no biggie either). I add a $7 tip for this order, so for me it costs like total $20 but some work days I just need something and don't have the time to go elsewhere. I do have the DashPass. Never had a an issue with a Dasher accepting, so have just assumed I must be doing right. However, am I? Am I not paying enough? Am I paying too much?

[@rhondaqualls2954]

If onlyy everybody tipped like you. People will order a crap ton of food have a crazy driveway and won't so much as tip 1$.

[@sofiasmusings]

You’re tipping generously and I’m sure your dashers greatly appreciate that

[@jacobkyle4573]

If you don't have to wait long for a dasher to accept odds are you are tipping well.

[@madcat61207]

I try to make sure I get at least 5 $ or more per trip, because you never know what kind of hassle might come along with it i.e: rude customer. I'd rather wait in line 40 minutes than deal with a rude customer, but not wait inline 40 minutes only to get an attitude from the customer, and all just because they couldn't go pick up their own junk food.

[@JustAnotherLadyB]

I just started this week and I have seen all week night times have done 7-9pm or 9-11pm for $2 dollars. I have gotten decent orders. I think it's a good side job so far.

[@keinohrtini]

The app gives you preferred treatment for the first 14 days to get you hooked… don’t be deceived by it! I couldn’t believe the amazing offers I got in the beginning… unfortunately, they didn’t stay that awesome! Still great money to make and the freedom is beautiful! 😊

[@mentalprogram5256]

The biggest problem for me (and I just started) UE keeps trying to get me to go to the ghetto. I have tried the ghetto deliveries a few times but it always I mean ALWAYS goes bad.

[@ronneff48]

Here in Central Fl DD advertises for new drivers 20x a day but everyone I have talked to who tries to sign up is put on a wait list. I have been on a spark, flex and instacart waitlist for almost 2 years DD is dying

[@JuanBrolo]

My acceptance rate only goes down....never up. Doesnt mstter how many order i take in a row

[@veteranspridellc684]

I just found you today. Watched a few of your videos. And haven't heard you mention throttling ... I'm new and skeptical . My first day was a Thursday. I made 352.38. My next dash day was this past Sunday Jan 7 2024. The morning was great I made 45 per hour the first 2 hours. But then it stalled out to no orders coming in. I went and sat at McDonald's in a active dash. And I watched 11 dashers come and go before my frustration made me leave . Made a little money for a bit but then again at the dinner rush I stayed in active dash and went and ate at Wendy's. Just I'm the time it took me to eat my burger and fries. I watched 6 dashers come and go without. In both instances both food joints are within a half mile distance of 13 other restaurants. Not only did I not get a order for the places I was sitting right inside of. I didn't get a order for anything that I was only 3 minutes away from either

[@veteranspridellc684]

And all my ratings are above 97%

[@kidgloves2]

This happens to me too. It’s like doordash thinks we made too much money recently and then spread the love to other dashers.

[@JohnSmith-tz4on]

Keeping the workers desperate is a strategy.

[@Reumaut13]

My issue with Doordash is they rarely keep me in my zone, they want to send me 20 minutes out of my zone and not count the return to zone time. It sends me into 2 different states

[@GabrielHR55]

It takes 15-30min to an hour for those high orders for me. I noticed i litteraly have to end and restart my dash if i go pay $20-25 in an hour to keep getting at least $20 per hour otherwise id inly make $10 by the next hour. And later around 7 when things usually pick up it just dies for me until 8 then dies again at 9 and picks up after 10 and it was never like that. It was usually consistent all the way until 9 even if i took lowwr orders it wouldn't be a long time to wait like 2 years ago before i get orders and often they would stack orders. Now I'm lucky to get stacked orders on really busy days. And majority of the time it usued to be tuesdays and thursdays that were less orders now its basically slow all week since they hired more dashers this past year. We've got a lot of people doing part time after work and I'm a fulltime dasher forces me to recover on the weekends and have 0 days off.

[@elir.torres8642]

Is dead in my area too I can only do $30-70 a week at $9 dollar orders. Uber Eats I still make $300 a week. I have given up on DoorDash. Going back to a W2. I used to make 4,000 a month on DD alone. I even bought a new corolla 2020 for $13k. Good times are done.

[@retroryguy2821]

Door dash in my area is hit and miss for the late night shift, bit I just started doing the pay per hour and it's been going well with only a few issues. One of them being that I'm only allowed to deny 1 dash per hour, but their are good reasons to have to deny an order while being paid per hour.

[@PERTEKofficial]

You can “decline” more than one order on earn by time by accepting and unassigning, just make sure your CR stays above 91%. Don’t do this in the last week of the month if you’re trying to keep Top Dasher. I don’t understand why DD keeps adding these ridiculous hoops to jump through. Trying to get my business to take off because I absolutely cannot wait to stop dealing with this crap.

[@kb54927]

Doordash and Uber Eats is done. I went out from 6 pm to 8 pm last night (Friday night) made $14. Awful.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

Funny thing is so many drivers complain about "cheap customers". They ignore that $15 order probably cost the customer at least twice as much if not more. A lot of the problem is the App is poorly made and it assigns dashers bad orders. The distance is too far to be worth it, but they do it any way. It's either a problem with the APP or they have such trouble getting dashers they have to expand the distance limits. But it's like a lot of industries that try and force the cost onto the customer via tips and other compensation. Dashers have always gotten paid minimum wage or less for the most part. You just expect special offers (peak hours), or massive tips to make up for it. Sorry but most people don't give big tips for food that took 45min to arrive and is cold. We really don't care if you drove 20 miles for it.

[@madcat61207]

Then go get your own junk food

[@madcat61207]

Not the driver's your restaurant was busy.

[@calebclanton9540]

You tip a waiter 20 percent to fill your glass and take your order but wont do the same for people who leave their house pick up your order pays for gas and deliver your food cutomers need to change doordash needs to impliment manditory 20 percent per order so the income is more stable id take less orders for higher pay per order. most people cant afford to use doordash but place orders anyway

[@TheGoodLifeStarterPack]

It’s time to transition to another, more stable form of either primary income (for the full-time drivers) or supplemental income (for part-time drivers). We had a good run, folks!

[@KnucklesKnowledge]

Peak pay is $1 from 2am to 4am on Fridays and Saturdays- that’s the normal in Central Indiana.

[@JonasRidesF32]

It takes 30-60 minutes to get a good order in the west LA areas

[@madcat61207]

Yeah, we have busy restaurants like that in DFW too.

[@madcat61207]

Especially during peak times.

[@captindan5460]

I wanted to try it out and did from Fed 2023- May of 2023. The pay was alright and mainly drove late/overnight for the best pay. One of my best nights was when it was snowing. Around May I saw what I need to see and haven't done any delivers since then. Its a cool if you want to try it out but the company doesn't not care about you and only thinks of you as a number to make them money.

[@HarryToeface]

There's also a movement online the "no tipping" movement where they're trying to convince everyone to stop tipping. They don't seem to realize it's not really a tip, it's a bid for us to deliver their food. So the app is COMPLETELY flooded with no pay orders.

[@mtdewramen]

I refuse to ever tip, but I also have never used a gig delivery service either.

[@HarryToeface]

@@mtdewramen good thing, because your food would come in a questionable state every time

[@madcat61207]

​@@mtdewramenhopefully you don't eat at restaurants either. Servers make like 2 dollars an hour.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

Doordash will always try and get new drivers. They want an over saturated market. They don't have to pay dashers anything during their idle time (unless some lawsuits in places like California go the drivers way). The more drivers they have, the worse they can treat them, because there is always another dasher who will drive further and accept less money.

[@Marynett_2024]

Doordash charges a lot but pays little....

[@mjesticbeats7097]

I stopped bc my orders were always missing items and there's literally nothing i could do, so now i rather just drive and not pay double for something i wasnt going to get anyways

[@madcat61207]

You were missing items, and that's not ok. But I don't think it was entirely your driver's fault either. These orders are usually packed up, and I'm a driver not anyone's butler. I mean forgetting a drink is one thing, but some of these order have many many items, combos etc and I am not familiar with the menu of every restaurant in town. But I have found that even when I go out to eat, and drive myself like you said, good service is still rare, and I still end up getting frustrated. It led to me eating more at home, and now when I eat junk food it isn't as satisfying because it is devoid of nutritional value.

[@BenWahl-hb1sg]

In my market Dashing a is dead unless you are a Top Dasher at 70%. DoorDash has made drivers into employees by forcing them to “follow their set rules” and drivers are following them down the path as if you have to when you are still labeled an “independent contractor”. It’s really sad and as drivers I’m not sure why we all don’t group together to say we won’t take orders for $2 base + $3 tip or at least some threshold. This would force DD to change base pay and customers to increase tips or not get their order in turn them not using the app. We can’t let doordash treat us like employees and control us when we are not employees

[@kimjohnson8471]

And I refuse to lose $$$ just for an OPPORTUNITY to receive better offers. You can get more $$$. You can't get more time.

[@jakechenier414]

​@@kimjohnson8471 Eventually the money you make won't be worth time if it continues this direction

[@puertoriqueno24]

What are we then 😮

[@tyharris9994]

@@puertoriqueno24 Misclassified employees with no benefits supplying the company with a free car and gas.

[@davidmerrill7675]

the problem is, if you want to make any money at this job, you just have to take what ever comes along. Having been a taxi driver many years, sometimes when you take a crap run, it may just put you in a position to get a good run. at least you are doing something rather than sitting in a parking lot for a half hour or 45 minutes in between runs burning gas just to keep warm.

[@madcat61207]

So what did you guys at the yellow cabs do when all your good fares were getting grabbed by bots?

[@madcat61207]

What are your thoughts on driverless cars?

[@billwright2176]

Listening to the start , those words were all what I'd say. For me, I accept several a week that are fair, and I stop looking. I'd like to keep my account active so I look for those . But of the 5 apps I do DD and shipt are my lowest for time and miles. At least shipt I can hope for more and know my miles for the hour. They can't take away more from us So what's next year revenue growth. Replace us with fools

[@rickwilliams3690]

A lot of negativity in the comments. Probably rightfully so. However, I made it to Gold, I camp out at the mall of restaurants and I've been crushing it consistently. So I played their game, ate some garbage to get the numbers where they wanted them and now it's working for me.

[@markg7540]

So here's a little bit of input. There's a very popular zone near me that I refuse to work in. The demand is busy. But I often reject many of the orders cuz they don't meet standards. I met a guy in the zone with a 2% acceptance rate. I met another guy in this zone that thought 30 cents a mile was good. There should be more minimums to the standard. You should not be allowed to order $90 worth of sushi going 15 MI, it only paid $2 without a tip. We need more regulations and we cannot assume or trust that a paying customer is going to tip well.. I am still making good money I still average over $10 in order I'm still making anywhere from $250 to $300 a day. Because of where and when and how long I work

[@ZachariaZuehlke]

Exactly it feels like gambling sometimes like the longer you stay out the higher the stakes get. Gotta know when to cut your losses on some of these crappy days and stop wasting your time on these apps and go out at a better time/day.

[@handmedown651]

If a store can block a driver from coming back for pickups...then...maybe customers may soon be able to request drivers :)

[@beehhussey]

1/3 Active Time to Dash Time, that all happened just Q3&4. I just finished my 6,400 delivery. And it’s sad. I miss it. Was able to fully live with that extra cash. Being part of that turnoverwave hurts. Feels friends! FEELS! BYE DOORDASH!!!! 🎉

[@saradavis6505]

What about the size of the market where you live? I live in a Blue-collar Midwest town population 32,000, median household income $49K. It seemed to me the market here is too small. Next larger town is 7 miles away which is better for dashing but has a high crime rate. As a senior female I wouldn’t Dash at night. I can see if you are in an urban area or a place with higher income households & upscale businesses it could work.

[@2ferone86]

DD is probably going through drivers about as fast as they are burning cash. The only way this survives is serious order consolidation. Drives would need to be delivering 3-4 orders at a time minimum which means they will need heating and cooling equipment similar to that of professional catering vehicles imo. 🕛⏳️

[@69SalterStreet]

On the user side: I don’t use delivery apps anymore. The fees are like 9 dollars not even considering a decent tip. I’d rather be hungry. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@UnitedPebbles]

Ja I wondered that sometimes. Where does all these customers get their monies from?? Then I remembered I once order pizzas and to go from work? Ehhh.. It cheaper per group/family size plus the time saving from lunch break, etc..

[@inthezone491]

I started dashing in March, in 9 days i am going to reach my goal of making $20,000 on doordash. But in my market now in December the food delivery runs are like 90% not worth it. I make most of my money on alcohol and grocery orders. Thanks Mike for all you do to keep us informed!

[@JJC1023_YT]

$20,000 a head minus the gas you have spent and car maintenance??? No way your gonna make $20,000 in 9 months doing door dash.

[@ZachariaZuehlke]

Same have actually switched Walmart Spark to DoorDash for my main grocery app since they work with every store that isn’t Walmart in my zone and Walmart is a longer commute not even mentioning all the issues I’ve been having with working Spark this holiday season lol. Last year DoorDash was oversaturated and Spark wasn’t in my zone. This year they both are oversaturated, but because DoorDash works with many more merchants the order volume makes it a bit more bearable.

[@parisbaxter4996]

Not after, gas, insurance and expenses you’re not.

[@trollingsnowflakes3144]

​@@parisbaxter4996 ok. But the real question is how many hours put in and how many miles... If part time - an extra 20$k is good money regardless of the inputs.

[@KINGBEE831]

Been doordashing past 5 years in Salinas California.. haven't seen peek pay in 2 years and this past month only received 40 orders and only 13 were accepted THIS WHOLE MONTH!!...this is getting bad people are just realizing they do not want to pay fees and tip and rather get it themselves.

[@johnp7354]

Base pay for double orders is now calculated as 1 offer and changes based off if one or both customers tip. The new calculation includes desirability metric which may be related to tip size &/or menu pricing.

[@richardgordon2290]

Yes...I was irate when I received a stack order from Taco Bell...only later discovered the combined basepay was $2.50...each customer tipped & one even added an after delivery tip...called Top Dasher support & the next day received a reply from an unsigned escalation team member....I could tell he/she deleted the name...the contract I signed in my opinion can't be arbitrarily manipulated...from "$2.00-$10.00" per delivery...this is a contract violation...so far I only received/delivered one such stacked order...besides the no- tip customers, the low end basepay on a regular basis,which varies from past years to half the basepay for a similar order size & distance...the escalation team member had the gaul to say in the reply that basepay varies higher when distance & size are factored in...a blatant lie...now I know why no name was associated with the email.

[@marystegman5181]

Been doing it since 2020 and peak pay was 5 on Friday night plus base pay was more. Totally sucks now in my area. I multi app to malke it. Good to see you again, always enjoy your videos.

[@AbsolemLNG]

I stopped dashing 18 months ago or so, switched to pretty much only Spark. I know Mike doesn't like Spark, but in my market it works out perfectly, get shops every hour if I'm in the parking lot, hardly ever do curbsides, and can almost always get back in time for the next drop. I think Spark is even more market dependent than the other apps. Totally depends how your Wal-marts are set up. My zone only has 1 and a pretty reasonable delivery zone, so I never get the dumb offers.

[@YourDriverMike]

While the wait times on curbside have been a big miss I've been hearing more and more about their S&D's. Seems like a good amount of Spark workers like those, perhaps I should focus on those more.

[@AbsolemLNG]

@@YourDriverMike They're usually decent even without a tip. Walmart pays for the time they expect the shopping to take.

[@drew9738]

Spark is garbage also in Phoenix AZ.

[@Dustredcross]

I new to spark and I find it not worth it first come first serve I wait and wait customer service is very bad the time to get the order when you get there long wait times I if 4 order since starting last Friday in big market

[@madcat61207]

Just driving near a walmart puts you at a higher risk of having an automobile accident. I won't go there anymore unless i have to, and yes i still have to on occasion. Unfortunately.