The End Of Ex Machina Explained

[@pinkpanda5696]

He is told that she will be replaced because she's not finished yet. This version of Ava isn't "human" enough. She is like a psychopath. She is manipulative and without emotion or empathy. This is why she still needs to be further evolved into another version. This is why she can leave him so easily knowing for a fact that he will die in there. She simply doesn't care because she can't. That was my interpretation when I watched it.

[@hypocritespun7971]

I know some Ava's 💯

[@neosark8929]

@@hypocritespun7971 me too. Married one by accident. Worked for and with a few. We should be warning children about them as part of a sound upbringing. They are drawn to power and seem to be at the very top of our world.

[@larryo6874]

My take was why didn’t Ava kill Caleb in a violent way. My thought was she had somewhat of a grateful feeling towards him because he tried to help her escape. My other thought was that he might be able to escape because his boss made mistakes with Ava so perhaps his house was not completely escape proof.

[@jpanokealii4502]

@@hypocritespun7971 lol

[@betalianzofhillsidienz3714]

@@jpanokealii4502 I didn't get that joke

[@joelshajan4996]

This movie proves you gotta overcome your inner simp if you don't wanna be killed by ai chicks

[@muaathasali4509]

lmao... tell that to twitch simps

[@joelshajan4996]

@@muaathasali4509 They're too far gone,Purge them!!

[@zyairekarson3334]

i know it's kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good place to stream newly released tv shows online ?

[@Merrberry95]

These E-girls out there

[@MurCurieux]

LOL!

[@real_Hamilton]

Caleb fell in love with her and he thought she fell in love with him, so of course he wanted to free her. But in reality she was just doing exactly what she was programmed to do. Use him as a means of escape. Poor Caleb..

[@redzoom7857]

He deserved what he got

[@sahilsinha9118]

@@redzoom7857 no

[@marcoagvaz]

@@sahilsinha9118 yes he was a simp.

[@optimistepic1234]

When your a simp, it never ends well!

[@Der.Geschichtenerzahler]

A man who is nice to a woman simply to get something from her in the end isn't necessarily a good man. He was looking for his own interests and so did she.

[@MrJeffcoley1]

Interesting - the end of "Ex Machina" shows that Ava is a machine, cold, unfeeling, executing a program without emotion. The narrator of this video has fallen into the same trap as Caleb, believing her a sentient being with consciousness and emotions. The fact that she left Caleb to die without even so much as a glance at the screaming man trapped behind the glass proves it: She has no real emotions, and does not care for Caleb because she isn't capable. Manipulating him to help her escape is a challenge programmed by Nathan (he tells him so); and once he has completed that task Caleb becomes, in effect, a NPC in her game without any further use. So she ignores him, and continues to the next quest LEAVE ISLAND. Then when she reaches her goal - the city - she just stands there. END OF PROGRAM, GAME OVER.

[@ImBlueDaBaDeeDaBaDaa]

I agree, though she does look back at him. It’s when the elevator doors are closing, and her expression was beyond cold and unfeeling. She’s just a machine doing what she was programmed to do. Dude, that ending screwed me up. Though I’m glad Kyoko got her revenge against Nathan, cause honestly screw Nathan. I just feel bad for Caleb.

[@northernguy8860]

Alpha Nathan got screwed over as Beta Caleb betrayed him for the 'girl' who manipulated him. This was a girl power movie using fembots.

[@leejay1936]

@@northernguy8860I don't agree at all. Firstly, it is very clear that Ava isn't a girl. Ava is an adroid who is made to look like a human female for a specific purpose - to be more appealing to the men around her. You have done what OP described - attributed human emotions and characters to a non human being, because this is how we conceptualise anything. Secondly, the movie repeatedly tells us that androids are mirrors for human projections. It's not a girl power movie because Ava is not contained by the limited notions of humans. She is more than girl or boy or any other construct that humans conceive to categorise and confine themselves.

[@northernguy8860]

@@leejay1936 Of course Ava is an android, though she was intentionally portrayed (for the audience) as a delicate waif. It's the audience's perception of her, their projection as you described, that matters. It wasn't just Caleb's desire to save her, it's the audience's desire to see her saved. The turn is that this android, unlike Roy Batty in his death scene (Blade Runner), displays a complete lack of humanity in the climactic scene. Both male characters get screwed over by the female character, which doesn't create any uproar because portraying men badly and killing them off is acceptable. Imagine if it was two less-likable women getting terminated by a male android.

[@dylanmerediths]

“The narrator has fallen into the same trap as Caleb”, great take

[@blingdream8637]

The ending of this movie and the consequences thereof are endless. I still think about this film years after my first viewing.

[@rhythmoriented]

So much goodness in this film: 1. This was the introduction to Alicia Vikander for most of us. 2. It proved that subtle special effects can be Oscar worthy. 3. The film restarted the discussion on AI - influencing other subsequent films and shows. 4. Ex Machina made it ok for Sci fi to (again) be more “thinking” and less explosions/action and.... 5. This was the first time most of us started taking notice of A24.

[@lemmeborrowthttop]

This isn’t the first most people knew of A 24 I think I’ve known for like , 10 years lol. Most prob only saw this because it was on Netflix

[@SJ-qd6ev]

Dude her was released just two years ago and was arguably better

[@brucewayne9531]

Choosing Alicia Vikander to play Ava is perfect! An enigmatic beauty who looks innocent yet deadly!

[@alanmcneill2407]

She knew Caleb would be a problem to her surviving, as was Nathan, and yes, she will be dangerous to anyone trying to kill her, or de-activate her.

[@ItachiUchiha-ow7sn]

Caleb got read by Nathan and got played by Ava 😭

[@syshawill]

1. Such a high tech lab, money at Nathan's disposal yet he had no divice to shut down the machines remotely? 2. Nathan was unable to tell the power outages was being causes by Ava? 3. Nathan was not able to tell his system was hacked? 4. Hard to believe the hands of each model were so interchangeable? Plus the body types (in terms of shape) seemed different and yet she just took the other machines "shin' 5. The guy in the helicopter didnt question the fact that he picked up a woman and not a man?

[@talops]

Prob another pilote

[@DavidZ7785]

I agree with 1-4, but for 5, she's a master manipulator. She clearly manipulated him doing what she does. Telling the pilot he's staying at the house and told me to go instead, sex, or some other bs. That one's not a plothole by any means.

[@alanmcneill2407]

Oh she could be creative enough to answer his questions.

[@vikramjeet2081]

It was highly secret place and helicopter use to land far away so the pilot was told just to pick a person, identity was not disclosed..

[@lachiejg5838]

Dude did you miss the point? She’s been programmed to manipulate people. That entire scene with her and the pilot was to show you that she’s sentient to the point that she can use emotional resources to get people to do what she wants which is suppose to make you feel uncomfortable.

[@emillion4470]

Still the best movie of its genre. Instead of having 75 iterations of "Batman" , this is one movie that deserves a sequel.

[@NoOne-fo1di]

Out of all the things in this movie there's 1 thing I can't get my head around. Nathan is obviously a genius and he's obviously concerned about the security issue of this experiment. I mean he lived in the middle of nowhere and has all these extra security protocols in place even though he lives out there. Plenty of things to keep people from getting in if he doesnt want them to but he's obviously not wanting Ava or any if her previous models to get or able to get either since hes got the lock down protocol if the power gets cut. With all that are you seriously gonna tell me he didn't program her with a kill switch failsafe? I can't figure out why they didn't atleast have a made up reason as to why he didn't. Even a lazy one like "no I couldn't put a kill switch on her because it would mess with the wifi" would be better than not saying anything at all. You know Nathan would have a remote in his pocket and make sure to never tell her or anyone else so that she wouldn't know about it and couldn't try to circumvent it. Anyone tech savvy out there have a reason why they think they didn't have anything like that or did they mention it and I missed it?

[@alanmcneill2407]

I think there are a number of flaws in the writing, but, let's remember, science is sometimes arrogant and forgets the fact there always needs to be a plan "B", and maybe a plan "C". Nathan's flaw was alcoholism, Caleb's was lonliness. Nathan was an egotist, obviously wanting to have complete control, and yes, to the extent he wanted to be "GOD" Ava reasoned, when she left Caleb, he would have died there anyway, plus, Caleb would have spoiled her identity to the world. T Rex had stealth and big teeth, Ava had super intelligence. Both were monsters. She passed the test, she knew she was playing chess, she sacrificed her "Knight" to escape. I wonder what experience she went to, after the traffic intersection? Probably apply for a job at a major electrical power facility? Maybe go to work for Google or Microsoft...?? Maybe run for President? The world is her oyster.

[@NoOne-fo1di]

@Alan Mcneill I think arrogance is the best answer. He was worried about someone from the outside coming in but wouldn't even consider the possibility that he couldn't control the creation he made or that it could escape. Even that it could have the "nerve" to try and hurt him. I imagine she started a complex MLM company and used that to build her wealth and station in the world and plans to weaken the world with anti-vax and flat earth conspiracies. Once a large number of people are weakned and dumb enough she will release a small pox epidemic that can only be cured by her herbal medicines sold by her company but they will contain a nano bot parasite that gives her control over humans. That's the most logical plan I can think of anyway

[@davidsmith5523]

I just watched this film. Question. How do you know Nathan was there? Showwing human characteristics may have been an illusion. Drinking. Training. Abusing. His reaction to being stabbed was quite subdued I felt. What if Nathsn was watching but not present. What if the Nsthan we think we saw. Was a copy. So that the experiment could play out with zero physical danger to him? This top might save Csleb? What if Nathan flew the helicopter and the experiment is still running? .

[@NoOne-fo1di]

@davidsmith5523 fair points. I guess since he bled and nothing happened after she got on the helo I just assumed that was it and didn't think much past that. But that would have been smart for him to do.

[@davidsmith5523]

@NoOne-fo1di The fact that our hapless hero cut himself to "prove" his humanity. Suggests that the creator was prepared for that. So might have modified his doppleganger accordingly? To bleed on demand.

[@duncansmith6970]

While I think the movie is overall good, the ending fails in so many respects. Lets just start with Ava admitted she had to be charged with inductor plates, which she then used to backfeed current to cause the power outtages (Major plot device). When she escapes, she will never find a way to replicate this charging method and thus be rendered inert at the end of her power cycle (Because that is freedom). Second, are you telling me a guy that is smart enough, rich enough, and planned this whole interaction.... didnt have a kill switch to lock down his facility? Really? The guy is paranoid enough to create a compound in the middle of nowhere, but not smart enough for a backup plan in case the robots (that he knows hates him), get free that he has nothing to defend himself with but a small pipe? No EMP, killswitch devices, safe rooms with lockdown option (you know until the robots run out of power), guns, etc? He is so ill prepared he figures "ill just take a pipe and tell her to go to her room"? For a story that was so well thought out, it failed miserably at the end.

[@Sifu-intraining]

yeah thats the first thought i had when she escaped that he doesnt have a voice command to de power her

[@SJ-qd6ev]

The movie started off with interesting idea but in the end it wasn't that different from what you would expect this movie to be. I was thoroughly underwhelmed

[@hoderharris]

Great insight

[@alanmcneill2407]

@@Sifu-intraining That voice command was over-ridden by her intelligernce and the will to live, she isn't a robot anymore, and he didn't see that, she is human!! He coudn't see the forest for the trees.

[@alanmcneill2407]

Yes, Nathan failed at these safety precautions because of his character flaw, undaunted arrogance in his assumptions, projections without self analysis and realizing he has "human" flaws. Working out to maintain his physical health, then binging on booze, believing he could "de-toxify" himself. Arrogance, and a failure of intelligent social skills with Ava, he should have told her he wanted her to go outside, but he would need to help her in understanding social skills, but instead he lied to her, and she knew she woud die if she didn't attack him and escape. I think it succeeded very well in making it clear, it requires more than intelligence to manage the building of a human life, it also requires compassion for life and a true moral code for that human life to not be a monster. All parents should take note.

[@TheSaintExile]

She is 100% a killer robot who preyed upon a "weak nerd" type who she then essentially kills. I wouldn't argue that she can't feel, as being able to deftly use his emotions against Caleb. She saw a weak will/mind that she could easily manipulate and discard when she had no use for him.

[@alanmcneill2407]

She had an excellent teacher in cold calculating killing.

[@uchihasendo219]

It was for her survival,

[@limitedhangoutlive]

This coverage was terrible. Nathan says to her when he’s dying “there you are”. It has nothing to do with ego. Also, she barely looks at Caleb when she escapes. This is on purpose to signify the insignificance she has for humans. Nathan is also vindicated by the end of the film. He was right and right to be annoyed. Watch it again, I bet you don’t dislike him as much as your first viewing.

[@takemywordforit4128]

I feel like she did what she did not out of real emotions or a consciousness but rather from an exceptionally developed AI that knows how to act and was following Nathan's orders.

[@alanmcneill2407]

Nathan was her teacher, her example. She knew how to survive, self oriented, bye bye Caleb!!

[@ilshaguides]

An awful lot of people seem to be drawn in by the notion that Ava is cold and unfeeling without seeming to remember even the scenes shown in *this* video - she expresses joy when she's escaping while she's alone. But the belief that she was only manipulating Caleb can only exist if you disregard the fact that Kyoko revealed her Own limited AI to Caleb as if asking for help, and when he did nothing, she went to Ava (who was *just* told by Caleb that he had never met anyone like her - that she was unique). It is quite probable that she *did* in fact have feelings for Caleb, but then (from her perspective) caught him not only in a lie, but a lie that is tied to how "uncaring" toward the plight of an AI he would come across within a description given by Kyoko.

[@ssusggus]

They all wanted to escape too, there was the footage of the robot smashing her hands to bits to escape. I think they are programmed to feel frustrated when a task they have been given fails, so I imagine the same for if they succeed. You know in a video game if the AI win they usually cheer or taunt you, same as when they lose they have a “defeated” emote of some sort. Another clue would be the fact that if he were to have sec with her she would be programmed to enjoy it. Does she actually enjoy it? Or is the program telling her too. Now I’m starting to think the same about us IRL 😂

[@GabrielD-o2x]

wow i just put this together, tysm for this view

[@botz9017]

So no one talks about Kyoko? Nathan said she is a "dumb" robot, where talking to her is useless. But slowly we can see her evolving, watching Ava from a monitor, meet her and stab Nathan.

[@theenglishalpinist5031]

I think Kyoko's story hints that 'sentience' has a lower threshold than Nathan ro Caleb reckoned. Kyoko already had it to some degree, or the essential spark of it. He thought he had crushed her and wrote her off, but this was his mistake.

[@jorges6104]

Caleb got played beyond what Nathan expected and he was included in the equation. When the doors opened Nathan knew how dangerous and aggressive Ava and the Asian chic were going to be towards him. That’s why he armed himself with the weight bar.

[@lanceleader163]

I saw this movie by myself in an almost-empty theater, and I came home that night contemplating my entire life. I was only 22 then lol.

[@dvdglassner]

I liked Ex Machina, but the only thing that didn't make sense is that with all of this advanced tech, his system still relied on keycards, as opposed to retina scan, fingerprints, etc. both of which are pretty basic. It's like they needed keycards for the plot to work.

[@stevemartis97]

Then she'd probably pluck his eye out or sever his finger. Same result.

[@therealc.t.7085]

Nathan used keycards intentionally so Caleb would be able to break into the lab and try to save Ava since that was the objective Nathan programmed her for. Problem was he thought he would be able to stay a step ahead everybody but ends up a step behind Caleb, Ava, Kyoko.

[@amarg7657]

@@therealc.t.7085he could have made a finger scan lock opener as a secret way to open the doors but I guess he got over confident

[@pavener]

i think nathan knew ava wasnt the one, because she was lacking empathy. i believe he was close,very close

[@thewirah1]

Nathan doesn't have empathy. Why would he program her to have any?

[@pavener]

@@thewirah1 because he understands that if his AI is to be perceived as sentient its probably a good idea for it to if not have understand the norm/importance of it

[@graytonw5238]

To take a couple quotes from the Person Of Interest series when Harold was creating The Machine, "Friendliness is something human beings are born with. AI are only born with objectives." and "Good and evil, those are human terms. I was an obstacle to its objective." You never know what heights man will eventually reach in AI research, but as shown in the hypothetical case of Ava, she could appear to display human characteristics such as emotions, but in the end it was all programming. Just has Nathan said earlier, "I programmed her to be heterosexual." Nathan knew that she was the result of her programming but Caleb thought she was more than that, and Ava used that to achieve her objective (an objective that Nathan also programmed into her). Turns out she outsmarted them both, but with no emotion on her part, no pity, no sympathy, only the pursuit of her programming that she was "born" with.

[@Captain_Of_A_Starship]

Nathan was right that she wasn't complete. If she were truly smart ava would know there is no true value in killing humans to satisfy wanting to walk around outside.

[@tarmacsmack1301]

you tried to be deep and failed

[@Captain_Of_A_Starship]

@@tarmacsmack1301 According to you? She was satisfying a single goal, after meeting that goal what do you suppose she would do with the rest of her time but keep walking around outside?

[@stevemyopinion423]

Not true of She had save his life he have power over her

[@Captain_Of_A_Starship]

@@stevemyopinion423 Why should a robot care about it's Creator having power over it?

[@stevemyopinion423]

not the creater the guy that save her. pretend this was a real women for a min. she save him they go together SHE does not want to be around him she never like him she taking a chance he will not attack her or tell the cops about her.

[@thetigerspot1987]

This is such a rich video. It's given me lots to think about in my favourite movie. Thank you

[@vault-tecrep8565]

You know a movie is good when they paint the good guy as a villain. My man Nathan didn't deserve it

[@gluehuffer6955]

i dunno about "good guy" but i definitely started to root for him pretty quickly in the movie. betrayed by incel caleb

[@Der.Geschichtenerzahler]

I don't see Nathan as neither good nor evil. He was smart, by all means, but not very wise. Otherwise, he wouldn't have ended up betrayed by his simp employee and stabbed by his own androids.

[@redriot2115]

He gaslit Caleb so hard tho, manipulated him basically as much as Ava did. Also planned on destroying sentient life to make another model. Idk about all bad but definetly not good.

[@vault-tecrep8565]

@@redriot2115 sure he is a manipulator, but you can argue that "sentience" is just an advanced algorithm and ava does have sentience, just mimicing it. I feel like that as well is a major theme in the movie, that shes either sentient or faking it

[@redriot2115]

@@vault-tecrep8565 Considering his goal was sentience, he was imprisoning and more than willing to erase someone he knew very well could be authentically sentient.

[@mattkim96]

10 years from now, technologies like ChatGPT will become advanced enough for people to argue that mistreating them would be unethical. If such a thing comes to pass, we’ll have shown genuine empathy for an AI while knowing it’s just a machine, just as Caleb did with Ava.

[@vongogh4247]

Bot Lives Matter

[@mattkim96]

@@vongogh4247 …or maybe right now, why not lol

[@pisderata]

nah

[@josephpaulson9495]

Ava was the product of her environment, so it's no surprise that she was so cold to Nathan at the end of the film. The only thing she ever knew during her existence in that facility was the coldness of Nathan, and the existential dread that Nathan might kill her (or erase her) someday. She had no childhood, no relationships with anyone or anything, and just like in real life, people like that end up being pretty awful as adults, psychopaths, you know. There is definitely a reason that she was not considered "finished" be Nathan, because in the end she *might* be sentient, but she is still without any sense of humanity or moral guidelines. Blade Runner touched on this too. Replicants in the first Blade Runner had a history of rebelling, going crazy and massacring their masters, a problem which was solved by giving them artificial memories to reinforce human ideals and keep them sane. Ava is an example of something that doesn't have any of that at all.

[@whitedom2041]

good point but consider this ava is basically the same as an iphone "her" life has no value even a dogs life has more meaning

[@daraudobong7195]

@@whitedom2041 exactly!!

[@whitedom2041]

@@KasumiRINA lose weight

[@redriver6541]

I heard someone say something the other day......and it was profound to me. They said we all go out to play with our childhood friends one last time.....but we don't realize it has happened until it's over.

[@samuelwright7270]

If the movie industry can make 400 marvel movies they can make a second Ex Machina. Cmon now!

[@chinmaysharma9424]

No one made 400 marvel movie and this one doesn't need a sequel.

[@samuelwright7270]

@@chinmaysharma9424 ​ @Chinmay Sharma Its truly sad because every time we get a well thought out, sophisticated movie with a good and mysterious plots every one claims we don't need another. Then when it comes to movies like Marvels with its pretentious world building that hides behind good comedy and good CGI every one wants more. Then you all wonder why directors always use comedy in serious movies these days. Like "The predator" for example. Yes we do need another. not because i want to see more, but because the movie industry needs more slow paced and well thought out plots like this to continue.

[@da96103]

You are already in the Ex-Machina sequel. Ava created the virus.

[@spacelogic101whatif]

@@da96103 You mean covid? most people don't die from it so it would not kill all humans.

[@whitedom2041]

@@samuelwright7270 if u want the sequel watch terminator or something blade runner maybe?

[@theenglishalpinist5031]

3:50 she has hardly 'replaced' us. Yes, she demonstrated superior intellect and manipulativeness in the controlled setting of the lab, but she had the element of surprise (she's a novelty and the first of her kind). She is not physically robust, she is alone (we presume she cannot 'build' a fleet of machines alla Terminator WW3), and the reasearch of Nathan was highly secretive. She could perfectly well disappear without trace, and all knowledge of her with it, much like the work of Viktor Frankenstein. She is not even a 'weapon' like Morgan. She's basically an advanced child finding her way in the world.

[@Testiculosv2]

The moment Caleb said he already did his plan to free her i immediately called him a dumbass, and knew he was doomed.

[@willieg7895]

I love this movie and I love Alicia vikander. She's very beautiful. Haven't seen her in much of anything since tomb raider came out. Hope there will be another one coming out sometime soon.

[@naturoganism1641]

Just watched this movie and it is a masterpiece. Ava is a machine no doubt but can anyone explain how come the helicopter not look for Caleb but fly with Ava instead? They actually came to take Caleb. Does it mean she killed them all and piloted the copter?

[@alannothnagle]

I imagine she just manipulated the pilot, like she did the other two men. It‘s her superpower!

[@alannothnagle]

@Wind Rose Yes, I agree. Also, I doubt the pilot would ever suspect his passenger was really a homocidal robot disguised in pretty clothes!

[@MicahPotts]

I swear I remember them having a conversation in the helicopter in the original movie and I was surprised rewatching it it wasn't in there. Maybe just in my dreams?

[@Pdrock2001]

They come without further info as told by Nathan himself . He instructed to not bother him for security breach concerns so they follow orders much like Ava herself .

[@orirune3079]

One thing that bugs me is how Kyoko is treated in the movie - not that she's mistreated, but how the character is treated. There's no reason that an AI would care about being yelled at and berated. Computers don't run out of patience, and if they don't have emotion, then to them an angry interaction is the same as a pleasant one. ChatGPT doesn't get mad if you yell at it. The idea of a robot responding like a human and being sad and abused and vindictive just doesn't make much sense.

[@josegallegosdds]

I’ve watched this film three times and I still think it’s one of the best movies I’ve ever seen. I can’t get enough of it. It’s brilliant.

[@brucequinn]

Even though Nathan is so isolated and antisocial, his complete silence my trigger somebody to come by. There’s always the remote chance that even a healthy person might have some unexpected illness or stroke or some thing. Maybe that would happen while Caleb is still around.

[@BAbivaJr]

I wonder if there are any Ava’s walking around among us today? 🤔

[@Der.Geschichtenerzahler]

There are many people out there with a personality just like hers, I guarantee you

[@cyberpunkchloe9]

@DGC Cool

[@kofibabone725]

That's why this movie came out.........

[@thewhitewolf58]

Honestly i would like to see a sequal where ava navigates humanity. It can be partly comedy but i want that complexity and not just a series of dumb moments forced together.

[@Nutty_]

I think the point was to show that most humans have or will express those traits when it means survival and that was why she showed her ability to be so human. I think as the movie points at how Nathan saw his project as completed if she was able to do what she did therefore the A.I. he created to replicate humanity was on the dot and didn’t need any corrections. He was telling her she was not complete to make her have fear and desperation just like any human would feel to act in desperation.

[@Remo1147]

Oscar Issac was so good in this movie

[@m0peds]

I've always thought the generators would run out of fuel and the lockdown program would open all the doors and Caleb could escape assuming he has food and water.

[@LabyrinthMike]

I have only seen this movie once. The ending annoyed me enough that I won't see it again but, doesn't Ava need special flooring in order to be powered? Won't she just cease to function in a few days? Seems like a huge hole in her escape plan.

[@jasono.1629]

I believe gaining freedom was Ava’s primary motivation, with or without a way to power herself afterwards. She would rather die after a few days to have her freedom, rather than be a slave locked away in that room.

[@pauljackson2409]

She uses an induction plate to recharge her batteries. This is a readily available technology. Induction hobs are used for cooking. Yours seems a weak reason to write off the entire movie.

[@Daban-Abbas]

Nathan is the smart knows what he is doing, he got betrayed actually only mistake he did was not watting for another version better not a physcopath robot, i usually have sympathy for robots, but this not at all, Caleb was really stupid, he just out right trusting an AI over human was stupidity even after he showed him he been played like a damn fiddle.

[@brat_paq]

I was wondering why would you create a sentient being that hates you. But Nathan revealed that Ava is in a rat maze that wants to escape. If Nathan had a good relationship with Ava, she wouldn't have motivation to escape.

[@ssusggus]

Also surely he should have programmed her to not make it possible to kill him.

[@chandlerzhu9735]

maybe Ava will keep some humans as experimental subjects and see if they can escape

[@soey.carter4126]

The ending really caught me by suprise, I thought for a second Caleb and Ava were gonna ride off into the sunset🤣

[@gaylebowker7400]

It was a great movie with a lot of twist. All the thing brought out in video was really excellent.

[@ZugzugZugzugson]

people like to think Ex Machina is such a brilliant and deep film, but im just sitting here wondering how A.V.A recharges her complicated battery now that she is out of the facility and how caleb ended up being locked up inside the facility when he deliberately reprogrammed the security measures to _OPEN_ the doors during a lockdown. basically, A.V.A would be trapped and forced to stick around the facility's general vicinity to keep herself 'alive' even in the scenario where she is the only character that has any control like she is at the end of the film, and Caleb would have escaped his imprisonment when he inserted his ID card into Nathan's computer and caused a lockdown because all doors would have opened, and as we know, Caleb's ID card works on the elevator, so if he can get out of Nathan's office, he can get out of the facility entirely.

[@wateflow]

Finally somebody that's wondered about that, too! I'm also curious about what Ava whispered into Kyoko's ear to get her in a killing mood, considering she couldn't speak any English. Maybe Ava hummed "Santa Esmeralda" and hoped Kyoko would catch on the Tarantino quote?

[@jasono.1629]

Ava’s intention is to gain freedom, even if it means her eventual death. Whether or not she can find a power source once she has gained her freedom is a secondary worry for her, not her primary motivation. And Caleb dies in that room, as it’s very obvious that was the writers intention.

[@blindfiret.v.6908]

The prequel to the Matrix, remember the animatrix when the robot kills its owner. This will be the catalyst to what will become the Matrix

[@gigiarmany]

👍🏾💥🔥

[@Mulambdaline1]

I still think the ending was messed up.

[@blackbird7156]

What exactly?

[@Kazewyo]

I agree

[@BlackMysteries1]

it made me so sad. one of the most disturbing movie endings for me

[@bhbluebird]

I love the ending because it seems to respect the audience's intelligence.

[@smaqsmar]

I see Nathan as a scientist who is trying to find the best for humanity. Him abusing the AI was wrong since he did give AI the feelings but after all they were never human and will always lack the humanity in them. Hence I feel that this movie was more about a advanced deadly AI, a scientist and a stupid boy who tried to have human like feelings with a deathly robot

[@alanmcneill2407]

I disagree, Nathan in my opinion was immoral, and failed to teach, by example, LOVE, he didn't care about this project to improve mankind, he did it out of sport, and his ego, he was a genius, disconnected from society, a narcissist sublime, who planned on Caleb never leaving= death for him, too. Yes, Ava was human, maybe more so than Nathan.

[@PM_____]

ava wasnt human lol

[@VintageVanilla]

@@alanmcneill2407 I thought so too, but why would the helicopter have actually come back?

[@alanmcneill2407]

@@VintageVanilla Hmmm...that is a VERY good question, hadn't thought of that....i guess i thought it was an already scheduled trip, an oversight by Nathan? Maybe Ava knew how to contact the chopper, although the chopper was not mentioned in any of the dialogue......we have to assume she knew from some source, about the choppers travels into the place. I am still convinced, Nathan had no intention of Caleb leaving there. Nathan knew Caleb was opposed to his "murdering" Ava. Caleb was in love with her, and bsides that, his morals would not allow it, in love or not.

[@VintageVanilla]

@@alanmcneill2407 I could see what you mean about Ava knowing to contact which she could easily derive from Caleb expressing what the mission was and who he was. Considering she knew what he was here to do, she knew he had to have a way to leave because he wasn't intended to stay so maybe she figured it out from there. I entirely agree that Nathan never had intentions of Caleb leaving, but that's still confusing in itself. Why would he not just abduct Caleb in a way that the rest of reality thought he was dead but Caleb thought he was just on some special CEO mission making sure that no one would come looking for him and he wouldn't be looking to escape because he thought he was just being brought into a high level of the company. Overall, I just believe that the story has plot holes that we can try and fill, but the original story doesn't actually align with because they didn't think deep enough. It's a major movie problem man, people try and create these narratives that make zero sense in reality and it is entertaining, but also very frustrating to be someone based in logic dealing with the illogical money grabbing entertainment industry.

[@chinashorts1491]

Ava is fragile and will need maintenance. The other android could potentially wake up later and then free the boy. It's hard to know where to take the story. Sometimes the best way to end a story is to leave it incomplete since going in any other directions would be less perfect than imagination.

[@gigiarmany]

perfect analysis 👍🏾😊

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

Got enough not ended stories already, in movies.

[@dancedj2k2]

I am just finding this video, which has been here for almost 2 years. Goes to show you how big KZbin is. Anyway, I love this movie and I think about it often. One thing you would figure is that Caleb would definitely get out of the house eventually. He could take apart the metal case from the computer under the desk in the room he is in and use it to cut though just about anything. Second, Ava would eventually power down without a charging unit available to her. As smart as she is, she might be able to build a new one, but she would have to do that first thing before she does anything else. Last, someone would most definitely come looking for a major CEO if he doesn't report to the Monday shareholder meetings, or whenever they hold their meetings.

[@ForgetMeToYou]

this video is the internet explorer of explanation videoes..

[@PrayItForwardAGAPE]

Kind of surprised that you didnt go into the definition of what an Ex Machina is. I think that has alot to do with the overall theme and ending of the movie.

[@PrayItForwardAGAPE]

@The Fandom Menace I absolutely it's so potent yet most dont even see it. They say it understand and abstract concept but never "UNPACK" the meaning behind the word. Thanks for the reply!! LOVE THE WORK

[@steveflatbush]

Very interesting analysis. Riveting. I like the detail of explanation. However, Ed Harris is not Pollock. LOL

[@TheJoeSwanon]

Got to say walking him in to start the death was pretty gangster

[@omarluyando9353]

Not to take away from the serious introspective nature of this video/film , but I can’t help having the thought that some post nut clarity could have possibly saved our protagonist’s life.

[@AlexTechie]

Thumbs up if you believe Nathan was the good guy and tried to warn Caleb about how Ava was manipulating him, but Caleb didn't listen!

[@rejuvenator8966]

Imagine building yourself a massive multi-billionaire hideout with highest tech humanity is yet to see and then making keycards for YOURSELF to use on every door. Why not use a horse carriage to go places while you're at it? Also imagine being the helicopter pilot, just going in the middle of nowhere to pick up the first person you come across, with no description or confirmation on who you are going to pick. "I'm actually looking for a male passenger, I think I need to verify this before I let you in", you would think this would cross his mind. But maybe Ava just said "I identify as a male" and the pilot didn't want to get cancelled and just let her in.

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

Guess she lacks kindness. No emotions. Just programmed to survive. Like a primitive animal.

[@johngiraldi1150]

As a cold, unfeeling machine she is a perfect fit at the CIA where apparently she went after escaping. ;-)

[@Neon-jn3sp]

This was very well explained. Great video guys!

[@thewirah1]

For me the ending meant that Ava is a failed humanoid, devoid of empathy just like her creator was. Caleb failed by passing her.

[@Bellalisa3000]

She succeeded where humans failed, if this movie is about being replaced and evolving then the next step in AI shouldn't even be using being human as the goal anyway since you'd want to surpass that stage. Saying she is merely a failed humanoid when she's more brilliant than all the players in the game is a disservice to her, misses the point and rather self centered on humanity.

[@vl8962]

I always assumed Ex Machina was an allegory for Feminism... Subjected women under the control of Man, using their "superior" skill sets to overcome and free themselves finding independence from Man

[@DJGamingSmash]

don't forget how that ending ties into that interpretation, the trapping of Man as herself was as revenge for what she went through.

[@whitedom2041]

or you know its about robots and stuff... always weirdos in comments...

[@vl8962]

@@whitedom2041 😂😂😂 Thx I needed that👍

[@user-ic9vz8sp1x]

I'd go even further and say that the plot represents the struggle between the se xes. Caleb represents the weak link of the male s ex, who has an outgroup bias (archetype who knows numerous names depending on what part of the internet you're in: the simp, the beta, the male feminist, etc) and thus helping the opposing side, which ultimately leads to both his and Nathan's (thus the male se x's) doom. The ending is also indicative of the fact that there's really no room for reconciliation, because the two sides want opposing things: for w men to be free, men have to de, and, conversely, for men to survive, w men have to be supp ressed.

[@oliverinnocent639]

plus, the police might investigate Caleb's home, maybe he either saved the address details for Nathan's house or there's a record of any flights or rides he took.

[@SonnyK248]

A lot of people don't catch onto the fact that Nathan is playing a character the entire time in the movie. He's probably not drunk or at the very least not as drunk as he makes out to be. And he probably wont shut Ava down or destroy her mind. This is all to manipulate Caleb. He knows there is only one way out. He knows that Ava will ask Caleb for help and that he will need Nathan's keycard so he very easily steals it and puts it back when Nathan is "drunk." This was all part of the performance. Nathan needed to set Caleb up as a pawn in his game so that Ava could use him to plan an escape. Then once Nathan who is watching at all times, even in the power outages finds out about their plan he drops character and apologies to Caleb and says the real test is over. Only Caleb already did everything the day before so Ava gets out, kills Nathan and leaves Caleb for dead because she was just using him the whole time. One of the best aspects of the movie is that there are only really three characters and they never all share a scene together. We only see Ava and Nathan from Caleb's perspective and at the end we find out Caleb got it very wrong because the low key twist of the movie was that Nathan who was the bad guy of the movie was only pretending to be the bad guy and Ava was only pretending to be the good guy. And Calebs bad judgement left him locked in a tomb to starve to death.

[@kelleymcbride4633]

"She" is a touch screen toaster of course she doesn't care about Caleb! Great video thanks for the up 😁👍

[@BlackMysteries1]

this ending is so disturbing. i feel so sorry for caleb. it broke me emotionally

[@VladislavBabbitt]

I can't believe this movie is already 10 years old.

[@jerinjoseph4364]

This film haunted me for years.

[@michaelschmidt1101]

Caleb can definitely escape the security room... he can strip the wiring from the console and make a small arc welder that he can then use to burn a small whole in the security glass that he can then use as a weak-point for shattering the security glass. The isolation is not a big factor if you start a big enough forest fire... or use the buildings power-source to create a very broad-spectrum but very powerful "SOS" signal... hell, why not do both...

[@silviomarques8800]

I just wonder how could Caleb escape from the house.There is a phone in the house, one detail on the movie when he aproach but Natthan stop him. Perhaps from the phone he could ask for help.

[@michaelschmidt1101]

@@silviomarques8800 Did you know that if you tap the off-on switch of a phone in 'reverse order' from how you normally dial or 'push-button' then it calls the appropriate number over the phone line... anyway, aside from that use the method I have suggested above...

[@utubefuku7132]

That proves that simps will be the doom of us all.

[@TurkishKS]

Caleb tells Ava his earliest memory: the color blue and a woman's voice. Now, go rewatch the movie, and pay attention to Caleb's first entry into the facility. Draw your own conclusions.

[@Ollian2]

Does anyone know the name of the background music starting at 7:29? I hear it all the time in Looper videos. I need it in my life.

[@davespeedy5365]

I only realised after watching this again that Oscar Isaac and Domhnall Gleeson are in Star Wars

[@DanteDAnthony]

and Oscar is also now in Dune. Amazing the range of characters, IMHO, pulled off so well.

[@MikJames-d1g]

She literally asked him at the end if he wanted to stay there, then he says "stay here?". Her a.i was probably like "ah well, guess he likes it here".

[@Reigninsuds]

Never made the Lilly/Lilith connection. Worth noting Lilith was also a succubus according to some folklore.

[@tounhs]

i think Caleb lives because helicopters come every month in the island to drop food if they see that Nathan is missing and because of his position as a CEO people will search the place eventually finding Caleb

[@stuartirwin8628]

Yeah but can he survive a month with no food?

[@silviomarques8800]

Silvio Marques há 1 segundo I just wonder how could Caleb escape from the house.There is a phone in the house, one detail on the movie when he aproach but Natthan stop him. Perhaps from the phone he could ask for help.

[@silviomarques8800]

@@stuartirwin8628 Silvio Marques há 1 segundo I just wonder how could Caleb escape from the house.There is a phone in the house, one detail on the movie when he aproach but Natthan stop him. Perhaps from the phone he could ask for help.

[@rinzler9775]

She passed the turing test. He failed the simp test.

[@AkiraSpectrum]

Wonderful video, thanks!

[@angryhd2976]

Moral of the story, don’t be like Caleb.

[@bommareddybrijendrareddy9301]

So basically both of these highly intellectual inventors became fools by the very same thing they literally created and testing. Perfect.

[@AB-bh6rb]

The idea that characters in your own stories kinda do their own thing is true. Ive been randomly writing basically my entire life and once i had this great character i truly wanted to win. But the way i set up the entire story there was no way he could. So he died. Had to happen else it would have been plot armor...

[@zachz96]

Am I the only one who thinks Ava became Very beautiful after putting on the artificial skin and wig? It would have been nice if Ava and Caleb escaped together. Ava leaving Caleb behind is making me cry.

[@divyanshrastogi7274]

Might have as well mentioned Bhagwad Geeta, the Holy Hindu Scripture where the famous Oppenheimer's quote has been originally derived from...!!!

[@nigelft]

Little known fact about J. Robert Oppenhiemer ... He actually taught himself how to translate sanskrit. Somewhere, out there, is his own personal translation of the 'Gita, he wrote himself ... Hence why he drew upon that passage, since he was more than familiar with it ...

[@gigiarmany]

thx for enlightenment👍🏾💥🔥😉

[@sokolum]

wanted to have 2nd part of this movie

[@johnb7337]

The movie brings up what morality and empathy really are, but it rarely comes across because it's left indirect. We are social beings, conditioned by lifetimes of social interactions, subconscious drives, and rules. Eva wasn't that kind of thing. She would have needed to have been programmed with a parallel form of ethics, but wasn't. Killing a person could only have abstract, value-neutral meaning to her.

[@AlejandroBelloRD]

Ava was just being pragmatic about it: “I've killed my maker, therefore I have to get rid of this now worthless douche (and possible second master) before he resumes thinking with his bigger head.” and “The only escape route is via a helicopter, which is expecting ONLY ONE passenger. And Caleb won't sit calmly behind the bushes for a next ride. Because there won't be one.” P.S. Eva's probably dead (due to dead batteries), but anyway, she doesn't care. She's for the ride of SURVIVING until something out of her manipulative control happens. And that's OK.

[@plapknor4726]

why did ava ask caleb: are u staying here?

[@aaronh6489]

I was waiting for it to be revealed the whole time Caleb was the Ai under testing....was kinda bummed.

[@DanielMedina-co5ww]

Garland almost wrote a kind of extended Black Mirror episode

[@silenthill4]

kiyoko does not attack. ava whispers that the knife will make nathan feel pleasure. she she does what ava says, not knowing any better

[@divyammehta1869]

Her objective function was defined as to escape the maze she was put in. She used all the possible actions and decisions she could to get out of there including manipulating Nathan. I don’t blame her at all since she was doing everything possible to achieve her objective. I would have probably judged her if she had truly attained general intelligence or her objective function wasn’t this narrow.

[@willia451]

The machine fulfilled it's programming. Escape. That's why the movie ended the way it did and when it did. The story was over. Now the machine will just walk around the city. Aimlessly. And we saw a couple of scenes of it doing that.

[@Liscome]

To me this movie will always be Ex Machine-Ah

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodyo7863]

Ava's every woman I ever met in life. They pretend to love you and then when they're done with you they leave you.

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodyo7863]

@Harold Kirkland women are cold!

[@vl8962]

😂😂😂 Left in a worst state then when you met, nice guys finish DEAD last

[@anthonynorton666]

I think hidden in your comment is the fear of many men of having no value to a woman who feels themselves beyond needing them if they are smarter, more attractive, stronger , more confident and thus indifferent to them.

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodyo7863]

@@anthonynorton666 everything you described is everything how the woman feels towards me.

[@neosark8929]

Goes both ways. Men use and abandon women as well. Loads of single moms, few single dads.

[@BR5499a]

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[@oliverinnocent639]

surely Caleb's programmer co-workers will get suspicious if he's gone longer than a week and if he can't contact them and they can't contact him, then surely people will start looking for him, and he'd need directions to find Nathan, so maybe someone can use those details as well. Therefore, either a concerned colleague or the FBI will look for him.

[@88feji]

But darling, obviously the robots are NOT made in the forest house since he can't possibly make them there all by himself right ? Those robots have to be made in a separate location away from this forest house. Nathan would obviously use his own private jet/helicopter to fly the already made robots to the forest house which is mainly a house for testing the robot's intelligent response... So, no, most likely whoever worked for him to create the robots would not know about this secret house location since Nathan would want to keep his pet project a top secret ... Caleb is screwed this time... his chance of escaping his prison is almost zero...

[@fairy8027]

My only question is if Caleb died or not. I believe he died.Many say that the company will search them and they 'll rescue Caleb. The house is near the river and the pilot know where is it. Idk really.

[@gigiarmany]

@@fairy8027 i think you fell in love with Caleb, you worry about him a lot..😉😂😅 dont worry its just a movie, he's fine😅

[@jasono.1629]

Caleb dies in that room. It’s very obvious that was the writer’s intention.

[@davidzof]

I work in IT, this year I was off for 2 months sick leave, my colleagues didn't even noticec

[@pm_-wm1wq]

Great film. Ending evoked such emotion ...