The End of GoldSrc

[@heitordau108]

If valve open sources goldsrc the name should be opensrc

[@Iron_Soil]

they already reverse engineered it

[@heitordau108]

@@Iron_Soilreally?

[@UtubeH8tr]

Rename it to GoldenSource.

[@heitordau108]

@@UtubeH8tr interesting but i think that name should be for the source engine

[@someguy1894]

rename it to coppersrc

[@iliving23]

when the gold becomes a source

[@SteeleJohnson-o7u]

when the gold is source! 😳

[@fray.Sai_73737]

when tyler the creator becomes a dora the explorer 😯

[@k_kubes]

I don't know, Gold, you seen pretty Source lately... Don't lie to me, Gabe!

[@D0rifto]

that's the moment when source became the gold

[@Geniuscat44]

Source but gold

[@StrobaCat]

I hope Valve open-sources GoldSrc so it can live forever like the DOOM and QUAKE engine.

[@POLARTTYRTM]

It already is. The entire code in 1.6 and half-life has been reverse engineered.

[@StrobaCat]

@@POLARTTYRTM Source for that?? If you are saying XASH3D wrong, because it is 1 ilegal 2 it stole code from half life 2 leak 3 is not official, so any mod made with that engine wont be posted on steam ever...

[@POLARTTYRTM]

@@StrobaCat I don't think you know what you are talking about. KZMod has been on steam for several years and its a golsrc port to the source engine. No one cares about what you are saying or the legality of it, just saying, literally no one. The code can be found on github. People have been reverse engineering half life and 1.6 since these games came out, stop making bs up. How do you think coders and engineers go so deep into checking demos for cheating players in KZ? Know exactly what is going on when each bug happens? BY KNOWING THE CODE. Get a grip.

[@charlesc3894]

Well that is wrong because 1.6 is a game/mod It is not the engine itself Valve has yet to Open source Goldsrc. The best thing we have now is xash3d

[@uniqueprogressive9908]

@@StrobaCat Wow, refuting Xash3D in order to win a argument. That's next level coping

[@chilionthetxtfile]

Black-Mesa Classic dev here I don't think GoldSRC is just dead jet

[@jmgonzales7701]

what will it do

[@chilionthetxtfile]

@@jmgonzales7701 Well more mods will be made

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@chilionthetxtfile such as

[@Cinarbayramic]

I have a question how do you make mods after steampipe

[@chilionthetxtfile]

@@Cinarbayramic I cannot speak for the entire Process as im just a mapper but thats just done through Jack Hammer Editor

[@POLARTTYRTM]

I hope GoldSrc never ends, the movement is too unique and elaborate. However, it could at least all be ported to Source Engine like KZMod, which is basically all GoldSrc mechanics running inside Source Engine, with all Source graphics, resources, maps, etc, but with GoldSrc movement. The best of both worlds. KZ, autobhop, surf, everything feels just so different in it, especially the powerful air acceleration, and crouch mechanics, it's just in a league of its own.

[@phrog6073]

its just quake movement

[@EntourageOfEquiliez]

it's old, it's janky, and most people that like it nowadays only enjoy it for the nostalgia that it wishes to bring back. your rose-tinted glasses need to shine somewhere else.

[@nottoofast]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez damn nigga you locked in on the hater grindset

[@MrIlikepie901]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez do explain how being born after goldsrc was released and then playing it way over a decade after is nostalgia

[@POLARTTYRTM]

@EntourageOfEquiliez I couldn't care less what you are talking about. I'm talking about how movement is just more grippy and feels superior to all other games.

[@XanderNiles]

Goldsrc games are timeless. The community will keep it alive for many years to go. The engine is priceless, from Half-Life mods, Counter-Strike 1.6 custom maps, community made skins, you name it. The engine still has a lot to offer and we have seen most of it for the past 20+ years and it hasn't feel redundant at all.

[@EntourageOfEquiliez]

it's old, it's janky, and most people that like it nowadays only enjoy it for the nostalgia that it wishes to bring back. your rose-tinted glasses need to shine somewhere else.

[@XanderNiles]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez it's a matter of preference. It's OK that you don't like it but lots of other people do.

[@BanDit49_]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez Not really goldsrc games have the most satisfying movement mechanics in any game I ever played.

[@jojojo5145]

​@@EntourageOfEquiliezDon't you get tired of spamming the same baseless comment on every post

[@therealwhite]

Imagine being personally offended that people still enjoy GoldSrc mods of all things. Where does that leave Doom mods then??? Completely unaffected

[@gavynb98]

"GoldSrc is over 20 years old" Bro SOURCE is over 20 years old. GoldSrc is 26

[@heitordau108]

@@gavynb98 its over than 20 years old hes right

[@jeffreypeters5578]

I'm turning 40 in Oct and started wjen I was 14 when the game came out

[@iDoComputers]

@@jeffreypeters5578 time is crazy

[@KiwoZuri]

There is also another aspect other than making maps and mods for Goldsrc. Making "Machinimas" - animated in-game films made using the game engine. It later became more popular with Source engine and release of SFM. But Half-Life 1 is getting popular again lately. Most of new machinimas or nowadays more used form of videos - Memes, are made using SFM or Blender, but they rarely achieve the same look and feel as making it in the original engine.

[@cygnusghedepereu6885]

It's a pain in the ass to script sequences in hammer, it's easier to animate and to move cameras around

[@VidZeen]

like SKI-BI-DI-TOI-LET

[@DarkestIQ]

man you can never forget cry of fear.

[@xDShot9000]

Wait for mapping community to switch over to Trenchbroom and ericw-tools, with which Quake community made so many crazy stuff...

[@jmgonzales7701]

what is trenchbroom

[@Scorp-tw8xd]

@@jmgonzales7701 basically,the modern map maker

[@CRT_YT]

trenchbroom rocks but HL support isnt done or good enough yet to use it over jack. it feels super polished and nice to use though, one day...

[@SophiaWoessner]

@@jmgonzales7701 mapping software for games that use the id-tech map formats (and similar), it has support for half-life though it's still experimental and kinda buggy.

[@lukkkasz323]

Nah JACK is better

[@weavorjjohanna5619]

YES finally a person that made a Half-life mods video and actually included Cry of Fear and Afraid of Monster also i do hope sometime in the future gabe give us the Source code for GoldSrc, i have seen what people can do with it within the limitation, imagine what they can do without it

[@NexXxus86]

You forgot James Bond 007 Nightfire. It's also based on GoldSrc

[@CS_Uravity_PRO]

Goldsrc lives for as long as humans will exist and play its games. Much like Doom's engine. There will always be new boundaries to explore

[@EntourageOfEquiliez]

it's old, it's janky, and most people that like it nowadays only enjoy it for the nostalgia that it wishes to bring back. your rose-tinted glasses need to shine somewhere else.

[@CS_Uravity_PRO]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez And its jankiness and simplicity is exactly why we love it and continue to use it

[@blackflame_]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez Wrong.

[@polfloe10]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez wrong :3

[@real_skeleton_guy]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez my boy who said its only for nostalgias? 💀

[@ReuploadArchivist]

Cry of Fear did a good job. At the time plenty of indie survival horror games were mostly done on unity. Someone doing a more fun game with older tools was deserving of its praise.

[@FiEctro]

It's funny how the author is surprised by regular textures and skybox on custom maps, saying that these modders squeezed everything they could out of engine. Considering that long before this, custom renders for GoldSrc (HLFX, Xash mod, Arrangemod, Trinity) were released - about which nothing is said in this video!

[@GugureSux]

9:00 Speaking of Afraid Of Monsters, it's good to know that there exists TWO versions of the mod: the older OG version shown here on the video, which is pretty much "just a HL reskin", and the VASTLY improved and expanded "Director's Cut", that packs way more custom models, textures, animations and some neat new features, such as flashlight needing batteries. The DC version is pretty much the bridge between the AoM and CoF.

[@davudabdic267]

Such an underrated youtuber.You have so much potential keep working.Im also so glad you mentioned cry of fear and afraid of monsters they are both really underrated games wich are made with so much passion and are filled with dread

[@ImmaKlonoa]

You cannot be serious, the first 6 grenades you shoot in the beginning of the video are timed with the music. My goodness, that's either a stunning coincidence or some awesome editing, i for one am impressed.

[@Chromeno]

wahoo

[@dezolance]

lmao it's complete coincidence

[@ElephantsDoingCrack]

Hey man great video! I really thought it was interesting and I love seeing a topic on my favorite game of all time. I always loved Gold Source more than Source just because I feel like modders really try going above and beyond with HL1 more (Not knocking on Source modders they do the same there too). I enjoyed the editing too man, this 1:26 was really cool. I was like "Woah I wanna see that again!" But yeah I have played all of these mods that you have mentioned (ALL OF THEM). I have been active in Half-Life's moding scene for like... I think almost 2 decades? This is just a very cool video man. Great job.

[@ultgamercw6759]

I feel like as long as there are Half Life fans there's always going to be people working on gold source mods. The fact we are still getting new content for this game after more than 25 years is staggering.

[@lainpika6901]

For a small channel is a shame you are using clickbait for the wrong audience

[@Luka2000_]

Gold source will never die while modders exist

[@TheKing-kd9li]

It feels a little clickbaity to say it's "the end of goldsrc". Technical limitations are one thing but creative limitations don't exist. As long as there's at least one person out there that has an idea, and they want GoldSrc to be the medium that gives life to that idea, then the end isn't anywhere in sight.

[@SammEater]

The funniest part to me is that my first experience with the original Half Life was by playing the PS2 port... lol

[@zentran2690]

Still blows my mind Cry of Fear is gold source. It looks and plays so god damn well!

[@gimok2k5]

One mod that I feel is missing here, especially in the last category of "pushing visuals" should be "Earth's Special Forces", which is a HL1 Mod that looks, at this point, looks closer to a Source Mod than GoldScr. They are apparently now moving to make it a Sven-Coop mod after the 25th Anniversary Update and the original GoldScr having a 2GB Memory limit they could just not get beyond, while Sven-Coop would allow 4GB which is plenty for them. Still, given that Sven-Coop is still technically a GoldScr game, I say it counts.

[@CatwaiiYT]

@@gimok2k5 ESF mentioned let's go!

[@yeaseb]

Man, that update sure did a number on them. I wonder how much better they would be if they chose something like Xash3d at a previous point. I mean, we already have been waiting many years for ESF:F Imagine HL3 coming out before Earth Special forces.

[@catfree]

I don't see how this is the end of anything I think the title should be changed I do really hope GoldSrc will be open-sourced soon though

[@super---.]

Valve has forgotten about it since the 25th anniversary. Maybe on the 30th, that would be 2028 right?

[@kirbythekirb59]

@@super---. let's be real they will never open source it, they have no reason to do it

[@super---.]

@@kirbythekirb59 they also had no reason to do many pro-consumer things, but they still did. You're probably right though

[@kirbythekirb59]

@@super---. hmm like what? Like there are some pretty good pro consumer things they did like the recent steam family system, but most consumer friendly things they did in the past had motives

[@super---.]

@@kirbythekirb59 steam p2p for example. They had no reason to do it, but they still did for basically no profit. Valve is really as good as it gets when it comes to gaming companies

[@Ben_19M]

Oh... I got clickbaited...

[@matt92hun]

I don't think I've seen Gold Source mods that didn't look and feel like Gold Source mods. But I guess GS modders don't have as much access to the engine as, say, Doom modders.

[@FredyFired]

8:00 Funnily enough, Counter-Strike Online or Nexon Zombies/Studio did fully use and push the improved Condition Zero engine further, giving it some extra nice features, like proper widescreen support and did create some very interesting new maps, examples being the Zombie Escape and Scenario ones.

[@ryancool1416]

Fun fact: dust 2 got inspired by a real terrorism incident happened in Morroco, Marrakech in the kasba. Edit: another fun fact: xash3d can also run source games(the fwgs one), but mostly gldsrc and mainly used in mobile, if u want a source engine for mobile there is one.

[@TMCProductions]

@@ryancool1416 hhhmmmm no, dust and dust 2 are inspired by several early screenshots Team Fortress 2: Brother in Arms

[@ryancool1416]

@@TMCProductions but in cs go and cs2 there are more details that prove this like "صيدلية المغرب" which means pharmacy of morroco and "café du maroc" which obviously means Cafe of morroco, and the location in dust 2 got blown irl in Marrakesh before counter strikes release.

[@ryancool1416]

@@TMCProductions another thing, yeah but I am talking about historical events not game inspirations

[@jcbsrl]

@@ryancool1416 The original dust2 was made because Dave Johnston wanted to make a sequel to the original. The original map "de_dust" was inspired by early screenshots of TF2. There is no connection to a real-life event. It's just Valve's style choice when they remade the map for CS:GO and stuck with that theme for CS2.

[@jmgonzales7701]

as expected its from an muslm country lol

[@VeryScarySmile]

When the when the source is gold

[@CDGActual]

Surprised no ones mentioning the Half Life Rally mod, which totally changes the genre from an FPS to racing

[@jojoelgamer3144]

9:08 I honestly thought you were never going to talk about AOF but I see you did and that’s really cool!

[@jankkhvej434]

goldsrc never ends

[@EntourageOfEquiliez]

it's old, it's janky, and most people that like it nowadays only enjoy it for the nostalgia that it wishes to bring back. your rose-tinted glasses need to shine somewhere else.

[@Onething6]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez i just like it

[@hesiolite]

Some people like to mod it more than source, some things are easier to deal with in goldsrc. I know several modders still making ambitious stuff in goldsrc

[@klaalter69]

​ 1. Your right its old. Everything will get old. Doesnt mean you can make wonderful stuff on it. Look at total chaos. Its in the doom engine which is older than gold source *and* total chaos still looks really good. 2. Gold source's jank has that kind of charm that many people (including me) like. 3. Many people (including me) werent even born/were to young when half life released and still love it. Just sayin'

[@Zontar82]

@@EntourageOfEquiliez #okbuddyretard?

[@humanharddrive1]

there isn't much like goldsrc and source in terms of ease of use for making mods and whole games, i think goldsrc has a long way to go still. the important thing is to preserve its culture and continue getting people into half-life. the beauty of modding isn't that it has to get better and better, but because all works are so fun and unique.

[@igorigor3960]

modern game engines are much easier than gldsrc and source .

[@humanharddrive1]

@@igorigor3960 unreal and unity have crap map making tools, I know what i'm talking about.

[@gavynb98]

@@igorigor3960 Yes, this. There's a reason the HL2 modding community isn't as big as it used to be. Hammer's workflow is outdated and importing assets like textures and models is way more cumbersome than it needs to be.

[@barelyarealdude]

@@gavynb98I think something like Trenchbroom but for the source engine would make things way easier for people trying to make mods

[@cygnusghedepereu6885]

Vague Voices -- goldsrc has a living soul.

[@gb5cs]

Your video made my day better, thanks G

[@DaboooogA]

Great video. I've spent so many hours in GoldSrc and Source engine games. Its like another life, in another world...

[@nakfoor1846]

I appreciate you naming some of the classic mods like Edge of Darkness. I always liked that one.

[@yeaseb]

No mention of earth special forces? Fair, I guess, they haven't really released ESF:F, specially after the 25th anniversary update and the problems it brought for mods.

[@JosefTBHTheBrokenHeadphones]

That is some slick editing man, nice video! Keep working on it man 👍🌟

[@da_gunk6623]

1:09 GOODMAN CHRONICLES? 😂

[@RumaG4N]

That one GoldSrc mod thatll never come out... Earth Special Forces

[@ethansgamingroom2000]

I can't believe we got a reversed version of Black mesa yet. (Half life 2 but in GoldSrc

[@Tamamo-no-Bae]

The most deviating mods you can find: Master-Sword Continued (A fantasy RPG in the vein of Morrowind) HL Rally (A racing game in the Goldsrc engine) International Online Soccer (A soccer game like FIFA set in the Goldsrc engine)

[@DrFREEMAN-y7y]

Rest In Peace, GoldSrc...

[@TotallyNotRaven342]

I mean... GoldSrc is just a modification of Quake's Engine and Source is just a modification of GoldSrc so is GoldSrc ever really "dead" or is the spirit just living onto everything that comes after it?

[@Tamed_Delirium]

Hell yeah this gave me even more reasons to go back to half-life mods

[@proaxel7003]

7:18 Anyone know what server is shown here? I had one running a similar COD style mod a decade ago, but it no longer exists

[@dezolance]

It's owned by Next21.ru they run multiple other CoD versions on it and own other modded servers like SCP and Hunger games

[@RayRayIsCoolio]

mmm love me some GunMan Chronicles

[@minecraftmasterded-_-kz2775]

guy didnt told about chinese conter strike bad move,that shit pushed source into bleeding max with that arsenal it have

[@thatoneglitchpokemon]

nothing ever dies unless uhh... *insert philisophical quote here*

[@Lambdac0reYT]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW COULD THIS BEEEEEE

[@aruan7sp]

I'm curious to know how they managed to put 3d skyboxes in Goldsrc maps

[@Admer456]

Fake it til you make it, basically. Instead of making a small room with a camera in the middle like in Source, you can just make a huge model in Blender and put it in the map

[@B.M.Skyforest]

Thanks to Xash modders can still do things the same way as in GoldSrc but don't worry about the small limits.

[@tremplerking]

You made me login into youtube again :P Thx for mention me and my work :D cool video and content ! :)

[@blackflame_]

What’s the name of the mod @1:00

[@JuniPinPan]

What's the map in the top right at 1:56?

[@jtukko]

I think people are gonna keep using it even if just for the original aesthetic since many like that retro look. Also if someone who knows how to use the engine and has an idea they will still use it for the project.

[@Warboy090]

Really surprised that ESForces isnt mentioned and how far they've pushed the engine, especially with the newer nonpublic builds.

[@PurpleColonel]

Goldsrc deserves to live on and it's endlessly depressing that Valve won't allow it to.

[@Zack_Wester]

Another thing I did not see is a mod that turns HL1 (goldsource) from a FPS to something completly diffrent. Like I remmber playing a HL2 RPG game (think elder schrool oblivion it was supper early into devlopment whit just the basic proff of conspet in). it had magic it had levels, it had kill rats get XP, it had quests get XP and rewards, it had item whit stat that did things. not sure if I seen any of that for HL1 thought.

[@ItzRuby-o7]

When you find a source of gold:

[@NeWx89]

Has anyone ever modded GoldSrc with cells instead of seperate areas behind loading screens? What I mean is similar to Bethesda of how they load in new areas in their games, like seamesless loading of new areas that are close to the player in a way that makes the traditional loadings obsolete. That way you could have enormous maps that never ends, including figuring out a way to also add LOD models (low quaility landscape objects that only apear far away and to be replaced by cell environments when the player gets closer). Anyhow, a modder probably needs the source code for GoldSrc for that, like Sven co-op got for instance.

[@PabloLomez]

If you wanna see what can possible be done with GldSrc, look at footage from "Earth Special Forces: Final" (FYI honestly mandatory warning: The final version has been in development since 2005 and it is STILL in development ... yeah). Almost no map size limits, dynamic weather, custom vfx and animation systems, etc. No it does not use Source Engine, though they did consider switching for Final back when HL2 released, but decided against it. And yes they had to write their own custom tools to handle their changes to the engine. Hopefully those tool also get released once the game actually releases. Someday surely.

[@left_out]

Afraid of monsters directors cut. Please make a video of the better version of AoM 🙏

[@PunmasterSTP]

Man, I wonder what AI could do with GoldSrc in another couple of years...

[@KingPBJames]

Nothing about ESF, Earth's Special Forces, even though you had a Goku gif?

[@Redmont_]

how can goldsrc end if you can still mod it?

[@FlyboyHelosim]

There's much more ambitious GoldSrc total conversion mods than those shown in this video. How about HL: Rally or BuzzyBots, where you play as rally cars and armed robots, respectively? Then there's International Online Soccer, Kanonball, and a bunch of others I can't remember the names of right now.

[@fp-1ballsack339]

GoldSrc is like Doom... it will never die

[@DrathamusGaming]

Look into Master Sword Rebirth. It is probably the most ambitious HL1 mod to date. A total conversion turning half life into a first person multi-player RPG

[@CMDRSweeper]

The end? My response is. "Is there an end?" I say that because there is now a game on sale with even older ties than Half Life today. Selaco is a game that has ties to the old Doom engine, no not the fancy Doom remake, but the original retro Doom engine from the DOS days of computing.

[@Ylinatsiperkele]

Best engine ever made. I still mostly play goldsrc games and wish other people would too.

[@shinigamit0d142]

there is no end in Goldsource

[@MattiCore]

We had/have so many mods from classic stuff like Surf, KZ, Zombies & WarCraft 3 to complicated Soccerjam, RocketLeague or BaseBuilder/Fortnite and of course all Standalone Mods/Games 🤩😎🤘🏻 over 22 Years of CS now for me :)

[@thatslegit]

11:05 ah the ship of Theseus paradox~

[@343N]

turn down the gain on the mic a bit

[@SysOpQueen]

Literally only came to say GoldSrc will NEVER die. For everyone in the comments, you can find many iterations of GoldSrc source code online in multiple locations. For example, the source code for OpFor and HL are slightly different. Xash3D is also an open source 1-to-1 recreation, and now is more advanced than the original.

[@AMystery117]

4:33 gman sends you to counter strike

[@super---.]

Oh but it's only 27 years old. That was like 3 weeks ago

[@flavioelgato5809]

when i see goldsrc graphics i feel home

[@Tronx431]

if they rereleased all the gold source games with better lightning I would buy it again xd

[@harrynoodlemeyer4450]

what? i dont really think so.

[@lukabrasi001]

you say Xash3D is an amalgamation, that it doesn't count. but people use GZDoom to push Doom to it's limits and still call it Doom. it shouldn't be any different

[@john_donne]

You can also look for a Xash3D game engine (this is an improved remake of the original GoldSrc) made by russian GL/GS community

[@LuisMercadoorg]

@@john_donne I’d suggest watching the video to the end

[@john_donne]

@@LuisMercadoorg yes, that's right, I didn't understand because of the strange pronunciation

[@OMGitsjulian1]

An amazing project that is unfortunately dead is ARRANGMENT. I wish the dev continued on, but sadly, they have ended the project.

[@froma.v]

beautiful thumbnail

[@Epikboy_012]

0:42 video?

[@Morvud3]

I discovered They Hunger by accident while exploring sven coop campaign portal lobby with my friend, truly great experience

[@ChefPrownlos]

Delta Particles was an outstanding mod too

[@infinitefun527]

Congratulations! 👏👏👏👏

[@weirdsoutherner]

GoldScr forever!

[@MajorCzaja]

No way aphex twin used in video :o

[@grady631]

i fucking love echoes

[@vvstwo]

where did gabe source that gold tho

[@skazo4nick1994]

I hope this crap will never be resurrected

[@iLife64]

As they say, it’s good as GoldSrc

[@user-stanrbm]

GoldSrc is underrated game engine.