The End of Multiversus

[@Rooflemonger]

So you may have heard the news, MultiVersus is ending. Sucks. I know the game was not what everyone hoped for especially by the end but its always a bummer to see a game fail, especially given that its a live service game and its actually going away forever. Like this time next year unless you already had it installed you will not be able to get the game which is very unfortunate. So lets talk about it, and platform fighters in general

[@soleil2947]

Any plans to cover Rivals of Aether 2 stuff? I believe the first in-game tutorials dropped with Etalus, and a more full tutorial system is on the way.

[@TheJarlath9]

the should have just made every character free

[@ExoticZah]

Idk why you blamed Smash Bros. As someone who made a name for themselves from Multiversus. The game killed itself. Due to greed and out of touch devs

[@wolfmech]

There is Smash then Rivals of Aether 1&2, then everything else. I'm actually surprised WB wasn't going to wait it out till season 6 for the whole shut down of the game. That being said when you make the game feel like a mobile game and make it more for playing on its time rather then the players, you sadly get shut down real quick. I just hope the devs can find work doing other projects. Mostly the art team cause they were the true dev mvps.

[@alyasVictorio]

Yeah! One more reason why Multiversus is dying: No fan-favorite characters like Ben Tennyson, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, Robin, Mordecai, Johnny Bravo, Harry Potter, Numbah 1, and Dexter as well as those dlc characters who should've been at base roster at launch like Samurai Jack and Powerpuff Girls

[@jojo2267]

ArkhamVerse, Mortal Kombat, Multiversus. Everything wb is dying, The upper management is without a doubt a clown show at WB games

[@Substantial-hf1rm]

I thought Mortal Kombat sold really well, am I wrong?

[@laranitaloca6913]

​@@Substantial-hf1rm majority of people hate mk 1 lol

[@serpant333]

@@Substantial-hf1rmmk1 is not getting anymore characters mortal kombat games dont live longer than 2 seasons

[@multiplierx10]

@@Substantial-hf1rm "Sold well" doesn't necessarily mean it was well received.

[@kurikari1675]

@@jojo2267 to be clear, upper management do be clowning, but people even floundering at the bottom tiers as well. Just all around poor mangement

[@hiagustres]

They really gave fighting game of the year to a beta 💀

[@ZForceFFC]

The same year tha tKOF 15 came out...

[@wolfmech]

Yeah just goes to show the credibility or lack there of in awards shows these days.

[@russellwestbrook462]

@@wolfmech”these days” man awards shows have always just been corporate shilling no matter what industry

[@wolfmech]

@ Yeah its the once you see it you can't ever unsee it deals.

[@picolete]

Awards were always circle jerks, only useful for some publicity

[@iamdavid8948]

Yet again, Warner Brothers proves their incompetence with management.

[@Rooflemonger]

I hope one day NRS can break free of WB incompetence

[@mikeliribaregana3703]

​@@Rooflemonger I hope one day MK can break free of NRS incompetence.

[@puxtbuck6731]

@@mikeliribaregana3703 I don’t see how this would be possible without just killing MK for a long time

[@alyasVictorio]

One more reason why Multiversus is dying: No fan-favorite characters like Ben Tennyson, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, Robin, and Dexter as well as those dlc characters who should've been at base roster at launch like Samurai Jack and Powerpuff Girls

[@Cherry91]

Watch the devs pay for the execs' greed and incompetence 😬

[@Mene0]

Jesus Christ...I smell a "what happened" from Matt McMuscles soon enough

[@The_Topscreen]

Oh man, I can't wait for Matt to dig up the juicy details. Just the stuff from the beta/original release is crazy enough

[@undeadxsoldier127]

I will absolutely be there

[@ilovemoms5385]

I'm still waiting for his Concord video 😁

[@kitestar]

@@ilovemoms5385might combine it into a WHA HAPPUN to live service games special because the reaper was busy last year

[@punkypony5165]

Need to watch it.

[@fortress621]

But it was nominated TWO YEARS IN A ROW at the Game Awards!!! How could this happen?

[@MorbyLol]

wait for them to come back next year and pull the same stunt

[@glacierwolf2155]

The Game Awards is _heavily_ casual-centric. Thorgi Arcade's "Fighting Games of 2024" is more up FGC people's alleyway.

[@mikeliribaregana3703]

This shows that the journos who give away game awards only have into account what's trending and how GOTY are actually worthless.

[@Budgiecat-w4p]

Same way garbage movie Emilia Perez just got nominated for 13 Oscars

[@odindarkll3706]

The games awards favors their journalists buddies' opinions and cheap propaganda, anymore. It's best to ignore them... Or mock them.

[@taleofsonata1]

KOF 15 got it's game of the year stolen by multiversus, literally everytime there's been a random smash bros clone they always ended up stealing the spotlight for their mediocre quality. They don't even look at years of legacy like KOF, improvement they've made from KOF 14, and the quality they put out.

[@Budgiecat-w4p]

They should retroactively give it back to them

[@taleofsonata1]

@@Budgiecat-w4p And the worst part is the people who judge the games don't even play fighting games on a daily or have any background in fighting games. So they have the most skewed judgement.

[@puxtbuck6731]

FGC and platform fighters will just never mix. 2 completely different fanbases for the most part

[@michaeltenbroeck1807]

That didn’t happen in 2024 for Rivals 2.

[@picolete]

How could they win with Seafood being a candidate

[@ArcadeNexus]

Luckily, it will be playable offline, but this is exactly why I dislike live service games-not all of them get an offline patch.

[@guillermomunoz3422]

Only if you downloaded the game in time. Otherwise it's unattainable. And you only get to keep what you had purchased at the time

[@ArcadeNexus]

@@guillermomunoz3422 That’s terrible-I didn’t know that part. They might as well unlock the whole game, take their losses, and just give it away.

[@squiddu]

​@@guillermomunoz3422 More specifically, you have to go online before the servers close for it to make a local save file containing everything you've bought

[@xemlyrics]

@@ArcadeNexus Don't worry, buddy, WE will PRESERVE it if you understand what I mean ;)

[@bucketman3095]

But what exactly is there to play offline? 😭 they never added any good offline modes

[@Solarson]

Ex-Pro Brawlhalla Player here. The reason you don't hear anyone talk about the game is exactly because of what you said: a lot of the Pros and audience for the game are children or generally young adults, they don't do content, or market themselves. Another reason is that the community and even the Devs are pretty disconnected from the overall FGC, not many Pros interact with the rest of the FGC or play traditional fighting games and most of our in-person events are ran strictly for Brawlhalla without sharing space with other games although we have the occassional Dreamhack & CEO appearances.

[@Rooflemonger]

well good to know, I always wondered. Maybe yall should run tourneys with akatsuki blitzkampf though

[@Angeldemonhybrid172]

Brawlhalla has abysmal balancing decisions and monetary practices that made me quit 4 years ago. Cross-Progression came but you need to be able to login to your old console EVERY MONTH. Stay far away from anything attached to Ubisoft and Brawhalla in general at this point.

[@fortisch]

And the fact the game feels aweful with the way its gravity works. Everyone i played with complained about the same thing. Uncomfortable gameplay

[@m201460]

“Pro” 😂

[@OrbisAetherum]

WB killed this promising game twice now.

[@blockchainballer4542]

I see KOF I click… KOFXV has been the most underrated fighting game for too long. As for Multiversus, I completely forgot it existed.

[@NeoZiggy92]

I can only feel sorry for them because of all that hard work going to waste TWICE! It's pretty discouraging....

[@amaannaqvi8417]

Warner Bros has to be the worst company in the modern space. Within less than a month, Suicide Squad and Multiversus both shut down, with the former having a development studio forced into a role they were never meant to play and the latter losing all momentum and interest, both thanks to corporate greed. Feels like Ubisoft has been dethroned

[@taco_sensei]

Suicide Squad has not shut down though? They just finished their yearly updated but the game is still playable online if you so choose. The game literally had a bugfix patch yesterday

[@David-yk9fy]

Justice has been served for King of Fighters 15. A sweet, EoS justice

[@EdnaKonrad4MVS]

Ditto with 'Street Fighter 6', as 'MultiVersus' was nominated twice in spite of having a smaller playerbase.

[@kelour1608]

really didnt like the changes but depressing ride for the devs to go through the game dying twice

[@Boomerangofjustice]

I never got past the feeling that was a very corporate game meant to cash in on the already volatile live service trend and to promote new WB products. Smash Bros never stopped feeling like a celebration of a game that brimmed with the optimistic spirit of collaboration, even when topical characters like Pyrrah or Corrin were released. Multiversus tried to the same thing with hostile monetization, while also telling you to go see cultural touchstones Space Jam 2 and Black Adam.

[@LG555]

Also, they only added characters from movies/series, whose fans might not be interested in a game or the other IPs in MVS. Nintendo IPs have probably a far bigger overlap.

[@lupinthenerd439]

This sentiment works for the beta but after the re-lauch they seem to pick highly requested characters (PPG or Samurai jack) or characters that work in both ways (beetlejuice)

[@IIIOldSchooLIII]

"When you aim for the king, you best not miss." - Masahiro Sakurai

[@davidsentanu7836]

Sums up the movie Hero (2002) 😅

[@ivanyy]

I'm a little glad that people are not willing to stay in a game with such predatory live service tactics. I really feel bad for the devs and the people who had hopes for the game tho, it's tragic to see a game die due to the sheer incompetence of a big corporation.

[@ExoticZah]

Stop making excuses for Multiversus downfall. Smash bros played no part in this. Multiversus killed itself with greed and out of touch Devs.

[@kode-man23]

Literally existed in the best possible time for a plat fighter to have a real shot at establishing itself, and had a close second (arguably best, if we’re really being honest) best roster in video game history, had a wildly successful beta… and somehow they still managed to fumble it? And after barely 7 months?

[@undeadxsoldier127]

I would say a lot of the blame could fall on the higher ups for this. Not saying the devs probably didn't have a hand in that. But whenever it comes to these live service decisions, you can usually blame the suits.

[@LG555]

​@@undeadxsoldier127you can blame the suits for the montization models, but not for the system changes like suddenly adding shields or the whole cooldown system.

[@undeadxsoldier127]

@LG555 Thank you, I couldn't think of examples at the time. Been a while since I played

[@lupinthenerd439]

Lol any source on why the devs are to blame? Oh right, trust me bruh

[@m3tl1kv3e9]

RIP to Dexter Ben 10 Harry Potter Numbah 1 Chowder Johnny Bravo Generator Rex Leonidas Mordecai and Rigby Gumball You will be missed in Multiversus and See you in the sequel.

[@lounasty69]

😂

[@raekwonchambers2297]

You think they’ll make a sequel? I think they’ll learn from that nicoldeon game n its wb if the game isn’t projected to be better than before they’ll never do it n if they do wb will be out of it so will be hard to get wb characters atp

[@boycarolina-b3u]

There will be a sequel

[@raekwonchambers2297]

@@boycarolina-b3u cope

[@thrakatak2645]

@@raekwonchambers2297 Your comment is so painful to read. I'm not even sure if i agree or disagree with you because my eyes glaze over before i figure anything out.

[@RandomDPAP]

At least it is still playable offline

[@Rooflemonger]

it will be, as long as you got it downloaded. Come the end of may you will not be able to DL it any longer

[@TheGianKl]

I thing it will stay in tour librery something like PT demo

[@gregorymirabella1423]

Piracy will keep it alive.

[@Tanrosatplay]

@@Rooflemonger Still more than most such games get. Normally a free-to-play game ending support = the game is just gone forever.

[@Budgiecat-w4p]

​@@Rooflemongeryeah but is it just gonna be in practice stage like last time

[@PowerArmorV113]

This game had Best Fighting Game at The Game Awards....and less time on the clock than Jump Force. I'm not saying WB dropped the ball here...because that would imply the ball didn't shatter upon impact!

[@ScoobySnax.]

This was one of my favorite games ever. I miss the beta.

[@thato8000]

THE BETA WAS EXCELLENT! I was so mad they changed the game when all they needed to do was improve the netcode

[@ebola9717]

This is exactly why I don't want fighting games to be F2P only. The thought of my favorite game just disappearing is terrifying. It's also why I probably won't get heavily invested in 2XKO

[@Nyagro]

That's true. Also, any F2P game inevitably has to open Pandora's Box of monetization which can be hit or miss as well. (japanese) fighting games were literally a decade behind in implementing rollback en masse, I'm a bit sceptical whether they would nail that part.

[@Tanrosatplay]

Agreed, this is one of many reasons why going free-to-play is not a great idea. Especially for anyone who cares about preserving the legacy of games. We're lucky this one will even still be playable offline after the servers shut down for those that get it in time, even that's not normal for a dead f2p game.

[@hydra4370]

2xko looks like it's the kind of game that will be shut down in 3 years after they slowly stop updating it tbh

[@brentacomoose]

I feel like the best F2P examples I can think of for fighting games have been Killer Instinct, DOA 5 Last Round, and Granblue. Where the game isn't really built around F2P so much as it's treated almost like a demo. You can pay for the game and get the base roster, maybe buy characters piecemeal if you only want your mains, or stick with the free version.

[@EquinoxDoodles]

Rivals 2 is doing REALLY well for an indie platform fighter ONLY ON PC. Still has a decent player base after launch, it's going to be at EVO, it's doing really well all things considered. Smash is just really hard to top because it's SMASH.

[@gregorymirabella1423]

I feel horrible for the devs since this was their first game. I really want more studios to just make single player games, ESPECIALLY if it's their first one. It's 1000x easier and safer to make single player adventures and THEN do some multiplayer stuff.

[@LG555]

History always repeats itself. Just like what happened with Superbot and PSASBR.

[@ExoticZah]

Shout out to everyone who said Nubia wasn’t a bad decision. We got her over Ben 10 and Daffy Duck

[@wompwompcryabttit]

Very weird stance to have against more DC/Wonder Woman rep in a fighting game, but not have that kind of energy for wasted slots such as Banana Gaurd and Matrix (dunno his name, still proves my point given how under picked the character is)

[@SomeAndroid]

Raindog is the only character I'd say is a bad decision. Since its just an OC in a game that's supposed to have WB characters. Personally I have nothing against characters such as Bana guard, Nubia, Agent Smith, both Gizmo and Stripes etc. They added multiple characters I like after I stopped playing, but I'm not going to go back to play a game I don't find fun no matter which characters they add

[@ExoticZah]

@@wompwompcryabttit Your point? I’m black please don’t pull a race card. Agent Smith is one of the most picked characters in the game. Clearly you didn’t play it. Banana Guard, Beetle Juice, And even Smith before Neyo were bad decisions.

[@ExoticZah]

@@wompwompcryabttit Storm is a way better black character than Nubia. Marvel Rivals is cooking for a reason

[@wompwompcryabttit]

@ Storm is marvel and a more well known character, you washed load

[@TrappSnow]

I dropped this game the moment I found out the power puff girls were ice climbers and not echo charcters

[@timogul]

I think the issue with Platform Fighters is that they don't do enough to differentiate themselves. SF, Tekken, KoF, MK, these are all VERY different games, and while you can boil them down to "two characters hit each other until their health bar ends," there are a lot of significant mechanical differences involved that even a casual audience can notice. Most major Platform Fighters are just Smash Bros with a different roster though. They don't do enough at a concept level to be something else entirely. I remember some really old Platform fighters that I enjoyed, mostly based off anime, like Jump Superstars, Battle Stadium DON, FMA Dream Carnival, even the old Narutimate Hero games were "platform fighters" in a sense. I think the core value to these is mobility, the ability to use an entire stage to play more strategically, but most of the more recent ones are just "hit enemy until bar goes up, then launch them out of the ring."

[@cloudnovalab]

That's my jam yeaaaaah

[@Rooflemonger]

Sorry this wasn't up earlier, power/internet issues on site here(WATCH THE VF5 VANESSA GUIDE!). I will say the early days of Multiversus(the first time around) were quite fun for me. I had a legitimate blast with the Iron Giant. I am no platform fighting game pro or nothing but I thought the 2v2 focus was neat for what it was. Shame that there can never seemingly be a true direct competitor to smash. However Kyo Kusanagi laughs on into the night, knowing his greatest foe has finally been defeated.

[@rockongalaxy]

I think it's mistake is it was a free-to-play game. Should've been a game to purchase, and everyone can just play all the characters they want. The monetization was a turn-off and there was a lack of polish to the game.

[@barrysmith4610]

Revenge indeed, Multiversus should never have gotten the game awards win over KOF 15 kmmmttt smh Good riddance

[@MorbyLol]

the world is healing

[@electroburstx3093]

Let's be real guys. Multiverse never had a chance because Smash bros is a game that is impossible to compete. Multiverse is just a meme, especially the Nickelodeon brawl star 1 and 2. Just here to be memes

[@DOSFrost]

Modders will rip the game apart to the source and put it back out as a stand alone fan release Probably modify the game speed, make every character and skin available, remove all roadblocks etc. I see this happen often enough, but then again this is a niche of a niche

[@BronzeAgePepper]

people have to care immensely enough about the game to put in that much work for no pay, I personally think the game is extremely lame and actively pushes away people who like cool things. Steven Universe fans would probably make into another "indie RPG about depression."

[@DOSFrost]

@@BronzeAgePepper I mean, true

[@deadfr0g]

For all of its many issues and flaws, no other fighting game in existence has EVER made 2v2 as strategically rich, interesting, or straight-up f***ing fun as Multiversus did. I will defend this take to the death. Both mine and the game’s. Lol.

[@arthurrosensmith-gr5ji]

True Death of a game. Not the first in our time, but definitely a very very notable one.

[@captainziggy82]

Fighting game of the year btw

[@forestskilbred9461]

I mean even DNF duel deserved it over multiversus that year. My friends don't enjoy playing multiversus together but the ones that I've showed DNF duel to have all liked the way it feels

[@odindarkll3706]

DNF is a AA title so it's much less expensive than Multiversus. Plus, Nexon are known for drip feeding content and DNF isn't a live service game.

[@TheGamerLover]

Warner and Nickelodeon tried to make profit at the expense of Smash Ultimate ending with Sora, they both shot themselves, but Warner got the worse wound.

[@jonathanboyd7327]

Remember when tubers said f2p was the only way of the future...

[@LG555]

I dread all of the people wishing for Smash to become a live service, just because they seemingly aren't interested in different games.

[@SpadeHand]

Soon, the holographic gold-plated LeBron James Toon Squad Multiversus playing card my friend grabbed at MAGfest will be all I have to remember this game by...

[@deeinthechat]

I think you can have another successful platform fighter that isnt smash. Its just everyone who has attempeted it dropped the ball. If other companies were able to make games that competed against street fighter 2, a company can make a game that competes with smash.

[@BronzeAgePepper]

Smash prints money because of its IP, companies that want to cash in their IP's recognition with a crossover platform fighter don't know how to make a good game like Sakurai does. Rivals of Aether knows how, but they aim specifically for a niche audience of competitive Smash players.

[@dominicwilliams214]

Thats wild I really thought it had potential to be a smash contender they just had to clean up a few things.

[@squiddu]

Noooo, it was definitely more than a few things..

[@MokoES]

if we were talking about the beta yeah... But the final release? Nah that needed way way more to be fixed

[@Dude902]

"I'm kind of a fighting game guy" - Rooflemonger

[@leonheart4464]

If only they had a similar approach to characters as Marvel Rivals 😔

[@hopelesound]

(Wirh Iori's voice) Sono mama shine

[@Y0U2BER]

With traditional fighters you have several individual communities (SF, MK, Tekken, etc.) that have always coexisted. When it comes to platform fighters and Smash you're competing with an entire console catalog of characters. That's a fight you're not winning. Multiversus was in a unique position to compete, with a massive and popular catalog of its own. The execution was poor and the fumbled likely the only opportunity for another game to compete or potentially overcome Smash. With the fall of MVS Smash's dominance has been solidified.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

This latest failure of Warner Bros just means that Mortal Kombat and their other “Core” games will need to pick up the slack for the deficit Suicide Squad and Multiversus left even harder and if they can’t live up to those grossly warped expectations…. It’s gonna be a long night, I’ll just leave it at that. RiP. I wish samurai Jack was in a better game.

[@HoneyDutchRap]

Man the music from capcom vs snk 2 ugh so good

[@futuretrunks9257]

They damn near never listened to what any of the fans wanted. Look at how HYPE Raven was. Her trailer got so much views and that was recently while it was doing bad. Top most wanted characters I seen was Ben 10, Harry Potter, Static Shock etc… they NEVER had any plans to release to MOST WANTED characters and they act surprised when it fails smfh. Greatest flop when the community is alley hooping you all the ideas they want and you choose to not act on it, instead add other characters that don’t generate hype. On top of that the game was wayy too much of a chore with the daily grind, battlepass’s SUCK. Take up wayy too much time, nobody wants to do all of that. Let’s not even talk about the game mechanics. It was far better in the beta.

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

My friends group all played during beta, really liked it, the balance was mostly good outside of some outlying bugs/exploits, then the game fully launched and they slowed the game speed down so much, nerfed a lot of moves, added cooldowns to stuff. Made it way less fun, less satisfying, and lowered the skill ceiling.

[@cylondorado4582]

KoF15 probably lost it for the online problems at launch, to be fair.

[@hermontarmand2404]

Although it was no problem in my region, and SNK did eventually fix it, but yeah.

[@cylondorado4582]

@ Yeah, I love the game, but it was definitely a stumble.

[@darquezze306]

8:40 I do think Rivals of Aether 2 will be that game. Brawlhalla may be the biggest platfighter that isn't Smash, but I genuinely believe that Rivals of Aether 2 at EVO is testing the waters to see if Rivals 2 can be a replacement for Smash to have the platform fighter community continue to support EVO. Maybe I'm overly confident but I would not be surprised if it gets main stage next year.

[@quebithegod2908]

The game is in a skeletal state at the moment. Need to beef up the content if it wants to succeed

[@darquezze306]

@quebithegod2908 to succeed in sharing a piece of the pie? I for sure agree. A quick look at Rivals 1 with its story mode, workshop support, tutorials,, and other single player and casual player options shows that we're in good hands as long as the game continues to do well.

[@MokoES]

​@@darquezze306yeah they know what people want. Its just that they lack the money and man power to truly deliver on their vision and have to make compromises. And its risky to sell their souls to a corporation to fund it since it could backfire like it happened to Them's fightin herds... Great game that was ruined by its greedy publisher...

[@ShatteredPedestal7]

Looks like the idea of “fighting games need to be free to play” is not going so well when the prime example is shutting down.

[@binho2224]

Publishers and devs need to understand once and for all that the most import time of a game is its launch. Specially if its a new IP.

[@dupeydog68]

No commercials for multiversus No ads No giant character reveals I didn't even know the game existed until I youtubed samurai jack clips (from the show), and behold, I find samurai jack coming out as a character in a game I never heard of.

[@lormill4851]

That's why Rivals 2 has targeted smashers so much, they know what they're doing (the amount of times I've heard people say "cancel up smash" or "Wrastor=Falco" being enough evidence of that). But Rivals of Aether is still the only plat fighter that felt like an actual fighting game to me. Sylvanos' followups to forward special straight-up felt like Anji's. It wasn't slidy, it wasn't floaty, it wasn't cluttered with shield, bubble and dust effects, it was great. Rivals 2 less so (imo), but it's still good and it'll be supported for quite a long while, since the team behind it is dedicated to it and they don't have a big company looming behind them, which is saying enough I feel.

[@thegabaghoul93]

Was not expecting a Double J jumpscare

[@Rooflemonger]

you must always expect the bree woo

[@SirLightsOut99]

I've said this elsewhere too, but Zaslav needs to get it through his head that actively making WB properties worse will not make it look to the investors like people care about Discovery+. After all the cool Warner Brothers stuff that man has had a hand in killing I can’t wait for that streaming service to burn to the ground cause you can tell that’s his baby and you can tell that’s the one he wants to pop off.

[@kurikari1675]

Remember guys, better then kof15

[@rumbleversewarrior]

We have so many people that still praise Rumbleverse to this day and i feel sad that it seems the complete opposite when it comes to Multiversus. There's still so many fans for Rumbleverse that i'm trying to collect them all to one community so we can try to help Iron Galaxy get a publisher some day to give the game a second revival chance but this time let us own the game to keep it instead of relying on live service. We would have loved to have an offline version like Multiversus is going to do!

[@superboyok_]

The issue with comparing Fanbases is that Smash Bros Fanbase is the entire Nintendo Fanbase. I think Rivals 2 can build its own niche as an really competitve Platform Fighter, and build its own Fanbase.

[@08diegobc]

They should just make the game the way it was in the beta. It was faster and felt fun to a lot of other people who dislike the slow gameplay. Some new mechanics are cool but it being slow is kinda sad. Some of us feel nerfed. It’s muddyZzz as it is now lol

[@joshuawoodard6998]

My kids liked this game, but there were issues with local play. It barely recognized controllers for multiplayer at times.

[@39gkastor]

Dbfz isn't a dark horse. DragonBall stays with a following. If anything, FighterZ was gonna be successful based off of the anime community alone.

[@ultimacloud3454]

you CANNOT HALF ASS a game ... and then come back and expect everyone to be like OH JOYYYYYYYYYY .... you either COME OUT SWINGING .... or you get to PACKING YOUR BAGS.

[@killerkonnat]

"It's impossible to compete in the platform fighting genre." That's not true, Brawhalla was the most popular fighting game on steam for many years until Street Fighter 6. Now it's #2. Brawhalla still has daily peak concurrent players higher than either Rivals game had all-time peak. Game is 10 years old and it still has a high playerbase.

[@RacingSnails64]

Interesting realization that there's multiple traditional fighters on the market but not many platform fighters that stick around. I wonder why. My best guess based on trying out a few other plat fighters with a friend is that Smash just looks, feels, and plays the best. (Although I do want to give RoA another shot.)

[@hands-ongaming7180]

I didn’t think it was that bad tbh but dammnnnn

[@duden2217]

Even after a year of devasting flops throughout the AAA landscape, Multiversus was something special. They truly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

[@pian-0g445]

Even as a someone not that into MK, it does make me even more worried for that series and NRS. Honestly, I hope they’re somehow able to separate from WB, but who would end up picking them up? And that’s IF NRS can leave with its team intact.

[@itsizzyuwu]

I enjoyed Multiversus in 2022. It was actually fun, fast and fluid. The monetization was not egregious and I had quite big hopes for the future and I could even forgive the game for Robbing KOF XV back then. This all changed and made me have a full 180° the moment it relaunched. I could whine now about monetization, but I'm not going to, no matter how bad it was. What I'm going to whine about is the fact they basically halved the games speed, playing this game in it's current iteration feels as if it was made for people that just woke up half a minute ago from a night of heavy binge drinking.

[@eliezer7779]

A bummer. There was clearly a lot of love put into MultiVersus (the art style and animations are superb) but the devs just couldn't figure out how to get the game to feel right to play. I had a ton of fun with it (both iterations) and am sad to see it go.

[@FlaccidJoe]

I'm crushed by this honestly, played tf out of it since the second tech test where I was playing it under NDA which felt cool lol. Never had to pay a cent for characters though obviously that's not good for a free game and other people absolutely would have had to pay for or grind for characters. The FTP model definitely wasn't good but it was perfect for me, got every character and tons of skins for free. Really gonna miss playing this. P S thanks for shouting out rumbleverse, these two games and orcs must die unchained are buried out back in my mind

[@paulsaguto9563]

It was so shit at launch that I stopped playing and never picked it up. I literally would have played at launch if they had couch co-op.

[@CallsignSeven]

Yeah KOFXV got robbed

[@atWisely]

Hey, if you ever want to talk to someone on the platform fighter side about the potential of Rivals and the difficulty of any game trying to break through the "smash" barrier, I'd be more than down

[@Outofcomission]

The platform genre of fighters is generally hard to break into just because Smash Bros exist. What can competition do to make people into platform fighters that Smash hasn’t done already? Honestly since MultiVersus came to be I asked that question a lot and hearing the game getting shut down again makes that question justified tbh.

[@androgynousaardvark7415]

I enjoyed the game well enough, but it didn't feel like I could just pick up and play it like I can with Smash because of all the effects like stacks that increase. I know hero shooters are popular and have similar mechanics, but hero shooters also aren't something I expect to be able to pick up and play at a party or even just convince a friend to get the game because they'll have fun just picking a random character.

[@davidsentanu7836]

I couldn't pick up and play Smash as well. I was not a Nintendo guy since the SNES, so when a friend invited me to play Smash (on Wii U) I just couldn't understand at all. The attacks are so stubby and there are two jump buttons which is unecessarily confusing. Not counting sometimes you can also jump with the up button, but only sometimes. The health bar is also confusing with all the percentages that seemingly doesn't correlate with winning. Trying to understand all those things while navigating the extremely diverse plaforms while fighting three other people. I was just overhwelmed tbh.

[@androgynousaardvark7415]

@davidsentanu7836 That's understandable, but Multiversus has all of those same obstacles plus the matter of keeping track of status effects. Also to your point, iirc, the original Smash Bros.only plays its tutorial in if you let the game sit on the title screen for a bit, which I'm sure didn't help people. The tutorial isn't as involved as the one for Multiversus, but at least the Multiversus one shows itself in a more intuitive manner.

[@sukmykrok3388]

Lol, it's ALWAYS good to see these "sMaSh KiLlErS" fail, lol! They're RARELY any good as it is. Good bye, multi vs! You won't be missed! (I'm not really a negative guy, but when my favorite games are challenged, I REVEL in the failure of the challengers! [in the spirit of fighting games competitiveness, lol!])

[@KrayKenshin]

Management is indeed the issue not the devs, but the devs will be the fault, and the cushiony jobs of ceo, and such won't be looked at. A real shame.

[@orenthall]

I think part of the problem (at least for me) is the cast. Since WB is currently a conglomeration of various IPs that it bought, it's kind of hard to define what a WB character is. So it's an odd assortment of Looney Tunes characters, Hanna-Barbara characters, DC characters, Cartoon Network characters, HBO characters without any sort of unifying theme beyond "currently owned by Warner Brothers Discovery," (were they gonna add Honey Boo Boo?). I mean, was anyone really pondering "Who would win a fight between Shaggy from Scooby Doo and Arya Stark?" So as much as Vs. games are just smashing a bunch of action figures together, this was like smashing actioan figures with stuffed animals and pogs and trading cards.

[@Yutappy99]

People should be aware that there seem to be a limited time to make this game playable offline. From the update note: "All online features will continue to be available until Season 5 concludes on May 30, at which point MultiVersus will no longer be available to play online or download." and "To play MultiVersus offline after May 30, download the latest version of the game and log in during Season 5, between February 4 and May 30."

[@WillCalwell]

Warner Bros. have to keep their shareholders happy which means making a profit is not enough. They have to see huge profits and constant growth. It's very frustrating.

[@bromowiliad5103]

I played a couple months of the pre-relaunch version and thought it was pretty good. Then a year + relaunch later, my interest in the game had expired and the game felt worse; I lasted about 2 weeks until I had just no interest. I had it loaded on my Steamdeck, so it kept updating despite no longer opening. A week ago I just randomly opened it to try out Marceline, Raven, Beetlejuice, PP Girls. Interest lasted less than 10 minutes. Idk, I just had a sense the heart was nonexistant. This morning the news of the closure hit my feed. I am certainly susceptible to FOMO, but even I didn't even hesitate to just remove the game from my Steamdeck. If I develop any nostalgia, it'll be for the IP and I can just dig up their shows. Nostalgia for the game itself, I'm fairly certain that'll never happen for me unfotunately

[@akilcharles3473]

Take this with a grain of salt but there was an article of the CEO of Warner Bros Games had departed from the company, given the past receptions of past/present failed games like Gotham Knights, Suicide Squad: KTJL and now with Multiversus I would think it's for the best given how scummy the company is currently. I would have also say Mortal Kombat 1 but there was discussion that would stay on with NRS solely focusing only on MK games, I know that with their being rumors of season 2 being the final update of the game but given how that the people are still working on it and that the pro competition has been announced I hardly doubt that to be the case especially given how you look at it it still an alright game getting more updates to it. Tho someone in the comments I bet would correct me wrong maybe.

[@hcmcourt4490]

6:23 A WILD SLAPNUTS APPEARS

[@AngstyLou]

Double J, Jeff Jarrett!

[@djpegao]

*8-bit pokemon battle theme plays in the background*

[@alexgordon9508]

They should’ve just done a Cartoon Network ONLY Smash kind of game. One big problem I had with the game was the roster. Like cmon…. Lebron James, Agent Smith? The plethora of CN characters you could’ve added and you didn’t care. You have to tap into the fandoms.

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

Unfortunately this is the most I've heard the game talked about in a long time I feel like it just disappeared. I can understand KOF15 fans being happy that it ended up flopping but I'm disappointed that something with so much ip potential didn't work. Hope it doesn't make companies think that if DC, Cartoon Network and other WB properties mixed together in one fighter didn't work than nothing will. I love seeing fighters based on series happen.

[@alanwood586]

I really enjoyed MultiVersus, playing as Stripe and Gizmo had me sold for the beginning but this is something I hate about live service games (and WB in particular). The fact a game can just be pulled is always a concern to me

[@pockystyx4087]

it's a damn shame. While it wasn't ever my cup of tea from a gameplay perspective, the people who are into it are getting it ripped from them twice. Had it been allowed to grow from the original launch; instead of being gutted and made worse with terrible monetization schemes, it may have been fighting game's first real win for F2P.

[@UsingGorillaLogic]

As someone eith more context on platform fighters you are right in that Smash Bros sets the bar REALLY high. The answer is you have to have a realistic and strong plan yo stand a chance. Rivals of Aether came out very early and had a set easy and cheap to make plan that gradually grew out and Rivals 2 then has that street cred to actually survive. Brawlhalla survives because it's gimmick is if you are running on like... Your grandmothers windows xp you can run it (plus a unique hard chase offstage platstyle for the sweaties). Multiversus had no chance the devs may have cared hut wb pushed it to be this parasite of a game so it was destined to fail because the competition is so high. Ultimately if your game is casual you are competing with a game with like a billion characters and if your game is made to be like an actual fighting game you are fompeting with like melee which while odd stands the test of time in its own way. Rip Nasb 2 as well by the way that game was fire last year but i am on that Rivals of Aether train now (and sf6 dont kill me capcom i play my crappy jp for you guys)

[@thato8000]

All they had to do was improve the netcode and tone down a few characters as the Beta was EXCELLENT! Changing the game speed took away all the edge

[@callumbrowns]

If NRS made a multiverse fighting game, it would be 🔥 🙏

[@TheReal_FishFins]

That was quick

[@Rooflemonger]

monstrously slow by my standards, but did have to deal with a power outage/internet outage lol

[@TheReal_FishFins]

@@Rooflemonger Oh no I mean the cancellation of Multiversus LOL

[@happyabbyarts]

I am definitely someone who kinda stopped playing after the beta, but I had a ton of fun when I did. I am sad we never got Daffy and Scorpion in there.

[@Jamal-bl7yh]

😢First Space Jam a New Legacy Then Learning With Pibby a now Multiversus WB buddy I hate to sound like Michael Corleone In The Godfather Part 2 but "You Broke My Heart Fredo You Broke My Heart" I supported you when Osmosis Jones and Looney Tunes Back In Action tanked at the box office, or when you were on Dire Straights when Animaniacs ended In 1998 and especially when The Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men were being lambasted by TV Critics I watched Cats Don't Dance, Iron Giant, The Matrix Sequels, ReadyTo Rumble, Speed Racer (2008) and Wrath Of The Titans get your shit together man theres a Reason Blood In Blood Out a Disney movie Is my most Popular movie since Breakin' and Breakin 2 Electric Boogaloo but Spartan (2004) Looks like a good movie and Rock Odyssey slapped

[@DaPhenomAce]

What's crazy is this game is gun to play, but the grind and monetization makes it unbearable to deal with. I've played one character the entire game for a total of 20hrs and only got them to level 8... That's not fun

[@FoolsGil]

Well, hopefully 2XKO learned quite a bit from this crash and burn, if the game is going to go with the live service model, hopefully they know what not to do.

[@jimimaggard3779]

I hope after Suicide Squad’s failure, MVS losing them tons of money, and MK1 having a bad reputation, WB rethinks it’s focus on live service games. Specifically hoping MK1 gets a turnaround because it is a very fun game and is in a decent state now I would say, arguably the best it has been with Floyd getting people interested in it.