The END of The Minecraft Code No One Has Solved (almost)

WATCH THE SERIES HERE: • The tominecon.7z Saga
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I covered the story of tominecon.7z in two previous videos, but there was a huge update I needed to talk about.
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#minecraft #mystery #secret #mojang #tominecon

[@RetroGamingNow]

*sigh*....once again, I have another partially obsolete video. There is still one more thing to finish this story: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4G6g3Rvf7isodE

[@testohtoby]

The OG rabbithole.7z LET'S GOOOO 😍

[@winter_wonka]

boxpig41

[@Vassilinia]

YOOOOO LET'S GO

[@fewsnow]

Lezgo

[@zsakarmin1663]

bro literally farm views on me. thats okay tho, waiting for the video

[@mkks4559]

No way that's Dinnerbone, the profile picture isn't upside down.

[@Keaton42]

Nah you're right that's Breakfastbone

[@mkks4559]

@@Keaton42 Breakfastcartilage.

[@Dank]

Maybe it is but he is also upside down

[@mkks4559]

@@Dank You know, maybe he's in Australia so technically, his profile picture is upside down twice.

[@Bensaidhi]

⁠@@mkks4559wait hold on you might be onto something…

[@HS-mn6jc]

THE PLOT THICKENS… (and subsequently ends)

[@Spinex0196]

noo i want more rgn uploads

[@ocococococococococococococ3267]

there is still the other weird file that was in the the decoy edit: maybe nvm he said in the first episode it could just be to increase the file size

[@Gibinhafilho]

THE TURN TABLES!

[@Vassilinia]

But we still don't know the password.

[@Vassilinia]

It's nowhere near over, not until we get the password and can verify the contents for ourselves.

[@thesurfacepen]

Blatantly fake, it's very clear that this was the file where Herobrine formerly stored his feet pics in, hence immensely secure encryption - it was too dangerous for the public to see.

[@Ryuko15]

it will corrupt the world

[@joshstraub6972]

[@jetsflyingoffatrain4338]

Fr

[@hx0d]

That's why Mojang let us know that Herobrine was removed several times after the game release at Minecon; it was too dangerous even for themselves.

[@gregoryturk1275]

Hero Brian organization is watching you. Be careful

[@AdeptOyster]

3 videos in a week - we eating good

[@Nenerii]

And of the same plot, too

[@cinderblocktreehouse]

O YES

[@A183real]

Quite the delectable.

[@wesleytran3890]

here in the first hour

[@vombgrillz]

He made first video, contacted by someone not happy with it, made second video to backtrack on his words, still people wanted a conclusion, then that someone forced a fake conclusion...

[@theishiopian68]

I feel like all the Minecraft ARGs have conditioned us to immediately assume mojang devs are hiding something lol

[@thederpypikachu9873]

I think ARGs in general have conditioned everyone for any game. It's kind of sad.

[@trixiebewitched]

​@@thederpypikachu9873 not just ARGs in games but in shows like Gravity Falls. People legit thought the Gravity Falls ARG was gonne be sinister asf. But it wasnt. It was just a lore dump.

[@thederpypikachu9873]

@@trixiebewitched I would argue games made it worse, but fair. I think it's also the fault of the internet for overhyping or working themselves into a frenzy about stuff like this.

[@trixiebewitched]

@@thederpypikachu9873 the only arg worth the frenzy imo is cicada 3301. It still hasnt been cracked and we havent heard a SINGLE WORD from cicada since 2017, and they only appeared to dispell fasle puzzle piece makers and reiterate theres only been 3 clues released by the cicada.

[@ZelenskyPlane]

@@thederpypikachu9873okay but ARGs are still very fun to be a part of

[@etaoinwu]

Dinnerbone be like "i just want this to be over with, pls don't bother me after my qna"

[@Supahdenning]

>I don't want attention, that's why I put myself at the center of this massive public spectacle that doesn't matter anyway lol don't worry about it guyse

[@CheeseManFuu]

@@Supahdenning Did you miss the part where people nagged him about this for several years? He kind of has to address it because he's the only non-mojang employee involved in tominecon with any reason to talk about it. Notch is heavily dissociated with Minecraft (in fact, recently joined a new studio so he has much bigger fish to fry), Jeb is currently in Mojang so he probably quite literally is not allowed to, Mollstam is very much not online, so that pretty much leaves Dinnerbone who is the only one of that group who has little-to-no legal obligations and actually circulates the internet. He kept downplaying it for several years until a sizable youtuber decided put a spotlight on it and basically skyrocketed the popularity and forced him to take action.

[@Supahdenning]

@@CheeseManFuu He is not involved with tominecon, he was hired by Mojang in 2012 after both Minecon 2011 and the file swap. He has no obligation to engage with anything at all, he is only increasing the attention on himself by giving a testimony full of holes to an audience of hundreds of thousands.

[@CheeseManFuu]

@@Supahdenning He's made statements between his hiring and now. He stoked the flame a couple times to support his fellow programming nerds and since then has been an accomplice, whether he likes it or not.

[@Supahdenning]

@@CheeseManFuu That much is true.

[@TuShan18]

Man, I was really hoping the original file had like a rick roll that was thrown in as a joke between developers.

[@Ekipsogel]

Was that even a thing back then?

[@CERISTHEDEV]

​@@Ekipsogelyes it started arround 2004 to 2009 i dont remember

[@TuShan18]

@@Ekipsogelif it’s Minecraft 1.0, then it would be November of 2011. Rick rolling had to have been a thing by then.

[@trixiebewitched]

​@@Ekipsogel rick rolling has been a thing ever since the internets conception. It is the oldest meme i can possibly think of. Besides rawrXD.

[@VoidPelt]

That’s what I was hoping for too. Like a big brain play on people that like solving mysteries

[@luciaeliade2224]

That was quick. I just finished watching the last video saying that cracking the file wasn't possible!

[@AnonsTreasures]

They were just trying to get people to stop, it's not impossible. It sucks. Both Dinnerbone and RGN are trying to get everyone to stop cracking the file.

[@maximilanobravo8198]

Same here

[@_Berserk_984]

-_- How do you plan to crack an AES-256?

[@lightningmc0935]

@@AnonsTreasures it is impossible, at least in a timeframe before your bloodline ends

[@5d4a5]

same bro

[@bobby6220]

Dinnerbone does not seem to understand the indomitable human need to fuck around and find out, a lock might not be a challenge but that never stopped anyone to see it as one

[@AnonsTreasures]

Hell yeah, lost so much respect for dinnerbone and RGN over the course of this.

[@leedlelel2373]

​@@AnonsTreasures what You do realize op wasnt advocating for this, right?

[@bobby6220]

@@leedlelel2373 oh no, I absolutely advocate for people fucking around and finding out, I love that shit, I don't agree with AnonsTreasures tho, I got nothing against Dinnerbone or RGN, they obviously can't endorse people doing this, especially Dinnerbone

[@Eph5wife4life]

No, "f around and find out" isn't a need. It's simply a human impulse. You guys should try controlling it sometime.....it's called impulse control and is actually good for you. Poor impulse control is usually actually considered a symptom of certain mental illnesses and various neurodivergencies, not some wonderful thing people should indulge in. I speak from experience when I say I would not wish poor impulse control on anyone. You usually end up getting yourself into trouble at some point in your life. Good grief, people.

[@AnonsTreasures]

@@Eph5wife4life Go back to your wife and kids bro, you have no horse in this race.

[@syrup4835]

The archivist in me wants the file cracked and the version of MC properly documented. The rational person in me is mildly disgusted by the harrassment of employees and annoyed by the fact people can't just be normal and recognise that the password likely comprimises other aspects of Mojang

[@wheedler]

Can disgust or annoyance be rational? Can any emotion?

[@vendetta.02]

​@@wheedlerYes, the only irrational one here is you.

[@nox6438]

@@wheedler Yes, thanks for the question though Aristotle

[@Vassilinia]

Didn't he say that the password isn't relevant anymore? What could be compromised?

[@hubguy]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@VassiliniaHe pretty plainly made it clear that it’s less this specific instance and more the principle that people should not just dig into anything and everything just because they want to. There’s reasons why things are under lock and key, and many times it’s simply for someone’s own privacy that would be unfairly invaded or files people don’t want dumped everywhere for normal business reasons And even in this instance, it’s just not his decision to make unless someone at Mojang did it or gave the all clear and ensured that password wasn’t attached to anything out in the open

[@FINXainarskrastins]

As a computer tech, I can agree that confidentiality is way more important than you think. I worked as IT assistant in a university for like 6 months, now I know how to make a card that opens any door, I have a company win10 key that has 14000 uses, I know all 5 admin passwords for all schools passwords, I even almost got to keep a hdd that I had to copy to a ssd to upgrade the accountants computer, but then I had to format it. All due respect dealing with spicy data and knowledge is quite a fun mental challenge. I could give/pass on things away for my friends there, but I didn't. And that's responsibility. Now imagine you are a small growing company that uses the same password for almost everything. Yeah, that ain't good, unless you're a black hat... it's serious.

[@MephiticMiasma]

"There are two people that have a key for every lock in the company-- the President and the Janitor. And I'm not so sure about the President." Isn't it fun being the janitor? 😉

[@SnoFitzroy]

@@MephiticMiasma digital janitors are fucking cool. I'd love to learn more about that win10 key they mentioned (like, why it works that way, not asking for the key)

[@ericwildfong]

@@SnoFitzroy It's likely just a license key. The company probably bought 14000 licenses which for some reason Microsoft attached to the same key. Admittedly that's a much more realistic way of handling it from a logistics standpoint than needing to keep track of 14000 different keys so good on Microsoft for that I suppose

[@rosekamii]

​​@@SnoFitzroycompany keys are, as the name suggests, meant for companies to be able to set up a lot of machines at once. it'd be a bit inconvenient to be sent tens of thousands of keys, so it's just one key with multiple uses i have no idea what im talking about though lol edit: i also just remembered they're actually called volume keys

[@snikrepak]

Cringedows much?​@@ericwildfong

[@RetroGamingNow]

There's a TON of new information here...what do you think?

[@AnonsTreasures]

The cracking must continue, until we have the password and contents nothing is really settled or confirmed.

[@chloe9846]

I’m just glad Dinnerbone cleared things up for us. But I do feel bad that him and other Mojang developers have been asked about it every year for a decade by Minecraft fans. That must get annoying real fast! Either way this mystery is finally settled!! 😅

[@tabstabstabs.]

Very cool

[@The_Lamp1]

im satisfied with this result I think others will not be I doubt Dinnerbone would have reason to lie to us and genuinely just wants to bury this once and for all and be done with it Great job on your investigation!

[@WreeperXD]

we should still continue trying to find what's there

[@nos595]

Pro tip: if you're trying to "remove your name from the internet", don't make it an easter egg in the most popular game in history.

[@snipeh]

more people know about the dinner bone easter egg then the fact that leaves are waterlogable

[@cralo2569]

kikiyama......................

[@IceFlower22]

@@snipeh wait wtf. They actually are??? I'll be frank, you did make a really good comparison there! I did not know that but i certainly do know the dinnerbone easter egg; can't even remember when i learned it.

[@loweni7460]

Exactly the guy claims he wants to be left alone yet ties himself to this mystery surrounding a popular game then says he knows the password but refuses to give it to the public then complains he's getting too much attention hmm I wonder why? His actions indicate he's seeking attention

[@jordan.L.]

@@loweni7460 You are reading into it too much. I feel like a lot of commenters here are projecting their own attention-seeking behavior onto him. what incentive would he have for getting a lot of attention? do you really think it matters to him? I do still suspect that he could be trying to protect the contents/password by diverting our attention away from prodding at it but that is it. grow up.

[@EnderHaven]

I've seen so many Minecraft creepypastas that for most of the time I thoguht the file was a fake story like most of the rest- in a way I wish it had stayed that way in my mind. It does serve as an important reminder that not everything is a game- when things like this are real, they're often not as crazy or mysterious as you might've hoped- and sometimes digging into these things can actually be harmful. Or- to put it simply: "Chill bro, it's not that deep."

[@mrpro7737]

password is "boxpig41"

[@anythingbenz4005]

The password tominecon is "boxpig41" lol

[@bimbendorf5166]

6:50 Nah, I usually break and enter just for fun. (There is over 150 court cases pending, as a result of my silly challenges)

[@__-st1gz]

Source: trust me bro

[@DG_plusrandomnumbers]

"It's just a prank, bro!" B&E edition lol

[@nox6438]

I was just completing side quests your honor

[@BrightyLighty_]

maia arson crimew:

[@mightytheknight2878]

Wait....

[@beardalaxy]

"don't go cracking passwords, seriously" "i won't give you the password because that makes it less fun" bro is sending some serious mixed signals here. just give people the damn password and let it be over with if it truly doesn't matter.

[@GrantGryczan]

He said he isn't in a position where he's allowed to just give out old company passwords.

[@mrpro7737]

password is "boxpig41"

[@anythingbenz4005]

The password tominecon is "boxpig41" lol

[@MechMK1]

One interesting takeaway from this is that a lot of companies have absutely atrocious information security practices. Plenty of companies have sensitive data on publicly accessible fileshares.

[@RetroGamingNow]

This is one aspect that was really surprising to me. Although I suppose that, in the end, this file is no different than what was going to be on assets.minecraft.net regardless (Minecraft 1.0)

[@tacothedank]

Shout-out to the Swiss anarchist trans catgirl who pulled a :3 and leaked the TSA no-fly list by doing nothing more than browsing exposed Jenkins servers

[@rainbowlack]

​@@tacothedank holy fucking bingle

[@Madaseter]

​@@tacothedank jesus thats a full name lmao

[@solenoids3]

@@RetroGamingNow I probably would have done the same and left the file public but encrypted if I were typing the command to upload it. When organizing a convention you have be prepared for random changes to the plan, and chaos as the organizers set up all the PCs on a short deadline. Some problem with access control could be a nightmare if it can't be resolved on the spot, but straightforward passphrase encryption is guaranteed to work. I wouldn't be surprised if they also had it on multiple flash drives, just in case servers go down or the 2011-era Wifi routers gets knocked out by all the phones.

[@babyturtlebrotha1981]

I literally JUST finished watching the other video, and now there's this uploaded less than a minute later. That's crazy.

[@digikrypt3566]

facts

[@mightytheknight2878]

its evolving and forward

[@MoreInsane96]

"Please do not try and break into every lock you see" In the meantime, the rogue at my table:

[@zixea3318]

Dinnerbone is correct about the cracking thing, but there’s more nuance. Sometimes you need to get into the “bad” territory to save archives of things.

[@FlantisFroggu]

what do you expect to archive from this? You can already get minecraft 1.0

[@FwuXi]

I don't actually think he is. On one hand, he tells us not to treat every lock as a challenge, and that "You shouldn't be breaking into things not meant for you." On the other though, he fails (or the video fails to demonstrate) addressing the literal challenge dangled in front of people by swapping the files with one intentionally meant to be cracked open. For the purpose you mentioned in your last sentence alone, I feel discredits the idea that, "this should be illegal" as was alluded to in previous videos. A lot of game preservation is often done by entering these gray areas of law. Maybe I just ascribe to a different philosophy on security, but if you accidentally leak a file or secret. The only real thing you can do after that is minimize damage that results of this secret or file being leaked. As incorporated as the internet has become, it's often still the wild-west. People will do with files as they please, and that includes cracking password protected archives.

[@ericquiabazza2608]

He is talking as the one convoluted into hiding shit. Cracking into thing that sre suposed to is what journalist, whistleblowers and other hackers do. Wiki leaks and the crimes done by countries and corporation will NEVER come to lightoherwise. The guy is a literall involve party. And thi channel has been grave int oit too. The whole dinerbone Q&A tells you they ARE paying atention and this IS impotants

[@0x6a09]

@@FlantisFroggu it could be slightly different

[@mrpro7737]

password is "boxpig41"

[@Advisorbuggy]

he got the password from an old email for a minecon that took place before his employment?

[@Pocketnaut]

NO WAY I've been following this mystery for a very long time now but your videos on it was a perfect recap and this new development is crazy

[@Evil_Jyan]

Green screen guy

[@ericquiabazza2608]

Brhu The first video is legit The second and third are contracted cover up Why would dinnerbone make a Q&A about it at THE SAME TIME. They know is popular and try to hide it.

[@Pocketnaut]

@@ericquiabazza2608 he literally said "yeah continue trying to crack the code". You choose to disagree because you want the mystery to stay a mystery

[@oglothenerd]

Finally! I arrived to a RGN video when it was only 1 minute old!

[@jukita]

linux man pops up under minecraft video

[@masela01]

i recognize you from discord !

[@oglothenerd]

@@jukita :D

[@silent-hills]

1 hour for me!

[@hatyyy]

yes linux is very epic

[@bvd0]

They could give us the AES-256 key without revealing the password.

[@user-vm1hi7bo5s]

That makes sense. He should have asked this.

[@quebono100]

Or he is hidding something

[@sukulhanda]

password is boxpig41

[@BrUh-tu5nt]

I feel like if those initial trolls didn't say stuff like, "This could DESTROY mojang and RUIN minecraft!", everyone would've just left this thing alone and no big assumptions would've been made about the contents of the file

[@BrainStormzFTC]

The funny thing is, at the time, they were kinda right. Not about the contents of the archive, but the password itself was presumably still in use at that time.

[@TheCustomFHD]

​@@BrainStormzFTCexactly.. there is a chance that those people werent trolling, and just said they were trolling to get the spam off of their accounts..

[@RCadion]

i guarantee that people are still going to try to crack the file even after this. people have sunk so much time into this already, they're gonna want to see it through to the end

[@seeya_cya]

and they just released an ultimate confirmation that the password very likely was used online, which means people don't need to try all the existing passoword but only scan existing data breaches

[@cole36912]

Of course, screenshots aren’t proof, only the password would be

[@gregoryturk1275]

Find it find it

[@Bill-Lions-musk-dye]

buying minecraft ❌ crack into a file confidential by the devs just to play minecraft 1.0 for free ✅

[@mulhollandoverdrive]

@@seeya_cya What? No, Dinnerbone said that the password was used at other parts of Mojang, there is zero evidence that you would even find it in a data breach, especially because a data breach of Mojang would be pretty well known.

[@Porygonal64]

Screw off dinnerbone, I'm going to crack into every lock I see-- As a fun challenge.

[@rexxe001]

Yes breaking the law my favorite meal

[@Porygonal64]

@@rexxe001 fuck the law

[@TobiCozy]

@@rexxe001 eat my ass law

[@snikrepak]

​@@Porygonal64amen! Hoist that flag, and sing that shanty! This dinnerblocke sounds like damage control.... and who is he to tell us who we can and cannot hack/crack?

[@cat1554]

What, are you some kind of lawyer?

[@johnsgamingsimulator]

I think I'm in a time loop. I swear to God like a year ago I saw this exact same video with the exact same screenshot of the files. I'm not going crazy.

[@leongashwig]

its called "deja vu"

[@theairaccumulator7144]

yea you're going crazy I'm pretty sure

[@wheedler]

That'd be a good sequel, Groundhog Year.

[@masteroftheinternetverse1296]

Good luck with the time loop!

[@tacothedank]

WAKE UP

[@Gaminguide1000]

The hell you mean "a few weeks ago", it was 9 days

[@vombgrillz]

Bro is a puppet now, Dinnerbone is pulling strings

[@jetsflyingoffatrain4338]

​@@vombgrillzAre you delusional? Next thing I know you'll be commenting flat earth

[@byteatatime]

"Hey RGN, how much do we have to pay you for you to make another video encouraging people to not try to crack this file?"

[@holyjewel]

No kidding lol

[@_BangDroid_]

If anything this only fuels it more. Don't press this red button!

[@Greyspecies9999]

so basically: it's private shit that lost most of its importance, and that contains old Minecraft

[@AnonsTreasures]

Most likely

[@cj.wijtmans]

alledgedly.

[@fish_pancakes]

until i see proof i still believe it's notch's manifesto

[@AnonsTreasures]

That's the worst part, we have no proof. We don't have the password, we don't have the contents. Just Dinnerbone and RGN telling us to stop, and when we didn't they gave us a screenshot saying "erhm this is all it is, guys stop now pls"

[@MarkBonneaux]

​@@AnonsTreasureslike Dinnerbone said, though, sometimes the mystery is better than the answer. Yeah, they could be lying, but, like, why? It's not like this is the NSA with evidence of the Illuminati, it's an old Minecraft file.

[@vombgrillz]

@AnonsTreasures I agree with you, feels really weird, first video was seen by someone who didn't like it, second one was trying hard to make people stop, but everyone wanted conclusion, so they made up a conclusion with this third video...

[@darklex5150]

​@@AnonsTreasureswhy are you making this bigger than it actually is? It was a fun mystery that's it, there is nothing important in that file.

[@lu2timess]

​@@AnonsTreasures Bcs the community should just stop, there' won't be nothing of use or barely interesting content in there, Idk what the community is trying to get out of this, no is no

[@drsoups]

Stumbling upon this video series in the morning and this coming out while I'm at work is the best KZbin luck Ive had

[@moti6468]

Amazing video! I was watching your other video about minewatch and when looking at the channel there seems to be a lot of updates and new videos. I would love to see a follow up video on that topic because i dont see anyone doing it and im so invested xD

[@GIRGHGH]

How is dinnerbone even contactable if he doesn't want to be online?

[@thederpypikachu9873]

He probably never deleted old accounts or uses them non-publicly. Discord is connected through email and sometimes phone number, and even I get emails like "hey you missed messages in this server" or "you got dm'd by this person" if I haven't logged onto my secondary account in a while. He also probably has personal accounts and saw the discourse and decided to say something either with the OG account or a new one. Etc etc

[@wheedler]

I assumed he wasn't online at all and people were approaching him in real life about this. Otherwise, he's not trying very hard.

[@prismavoid3764]

I'm guessing that by that, he means something like "not being as public online". The way most people are "online" but don't have a social media presence where they're talking with thousands of people constantly. Like, probably a private Twitter and a Discord that's only in a few small friend group servers, where close friends and family can contact him, but generally not any random guy who knows nothing about him. People might've gotten into contact with him for the QNA via one of those people who still can contact him online hearing about the mystery and asking him personally, which caused him to do the QNA to try and shut down the mystery permanently.

[@alextester8805]

we should stilly try and crack it, I think omni archive would be interseted in the jar, even if it is only slightly differnt

[@princessanya6719]

Thanks for covering this mystery! I've enjoyed experiencing it as it unfolded

[@rimimimimimimimim4170]

damn this is perfect because I just watched the other one, these videos are so good I subscribed, and i'm sure your video was a big reason this investigation was pushed

[@gregoryturk1275]

They are obviously trying to stop you from getting into the file because something is important. Why else would there be 3 uploads a day?

[@KroolTheField]

You could've mentionned Dinnerbone's reply in your latest video, in the comment section, where he says that he indeed remembered the password and when asked if that meant the password was a simple phrase to remember, he answered that he still had to check on an old email (maybe to try to hide the fact that the password is indeed simple to guess ?)

[@seeya_cya]

it was indeed simple, nobody was using generated passwords as we do today

[@JoBot__]

@@seeya_cya That doesn't mean the password can't be complex.

[@wheedler]

@@seeya_cya I was using relatively complex algorithmic passwords back then. Not completely random, but not guessable and probably not brute forceable.

[@Saandy_]

The real mystery is why Dinnerbone has been trying to remove his online presence so hard. I know he has been sick for years, and I understand that this isn't really for us to know, but I used to look up to him as a kid. I just hope he's having a good life, and that he is feeling better. I remember watching a Mojang game jam stream years back and Dinnerbone was working on a 2d sidescroller where the player was fighting big snails. I suggested the player to have a salt gun, and his face lit up. He said "A salt gun!" and looked up towards someone off-screen. Evidently he didn't get a response back, and went back to programming and forgot all about it. It stuck with me though.

[@michaelskorka2697]

bro i was just watching the 2 other vids and then as im done with the last one a new one is here, good stuff

[@stelscarrot]

"Sometimes the locks are there for a reason, not just as a fun challenge" Yeah, the 12 years old me begs to differ. We broke a lock into empty room we saw for the first time, and was happy the whole day.

[@danysiegh9746]

I love how Dinnerbone reveals that the password is hinting at an embarrassing moment from another office worker. I guess that is why he still knows the password XD

[@gregoryturk1275]

It must be letters and numbers then

[@U20E0]

Which means it _is_ susceptible to a dictionary attack, just a more complex one

[@mr.skeleton4346]

Thats literally not what he said

[@wheedler]

You think someone really did go back in time to embarrass a Mojang employee? I guess that makes sense, since the password will only be known after quantum computing cracks the encryption and gives us both the password and time travel.

[@gregoryturk1275]

@@wheedler Time travel? Bro needs to watch some quantum computing videos. Domain of science has a good one

[@rav3nston3]

this is why we need ARG's and stuff, people love cracking codes and solving mysteries, so much so that they'll even potentially risk the security of the things they love

[@Instig4t0r86]

I watched the first video. Started to second. Saw your comment about a new update. Subbed, refreshed my feed and promptly stopped the second video 😂

[@The_Lamp1]

I was litterally watching this series when this video dropped you are on the ball with this

[@raidz_ttv]

SAME!

[@lone_007]

I think you should do a deep dive on the dungeons in minecraft. Not the temples but the actual dungeons and their implications

[@Copperkaiju]

That sounds like fun. Without MatPat, RGN is my favorite for Minecraft theories.

[@thederpypikachu9873]

​@@CopperkaijuI'm sort of the same way. Used to be a big MP fan before I realized how he has been "borrowing" theories and not always crediting, plus the whole supporting a hate group situation. I did really enjoy his minecraft theories (mostly). While some of my minecraft lore beliefs/theories fall more in line with MP/the ones MP popularized, I do love seeing the different ways you can take evidence and things from the game, and a handful of things I do think are more accurate here.

[@gregoryturk1275]

Good idea

[@andrewpinedo1883]

⁠@@thederpypikachu9873Wait, Matpat supported a hate group? How have I never heard that until now?

[@thederpypikachu9873]

@@andrewpinedo1883 I don't remember the exact name but he donated/supported Matt Rober (or however you spell his name) when he was doing some charity for his autistic son. That charity is (I don't remember the details, it's been like 2 years since I found out and did all the digging on it) either directly connected to or based on Autism Speaks. Autism Speaks, while not officially classified as one, IS a hate group. It spreads horrific misinformation and blatant lies about Autism/ASD, including making a commercial about a mom who said she wanted to drive herself and her autistic child off a cliff because it's "so hard to deal with", promoting the "superhero/superpowers" mentality, at one point was associated with the "bleach curea autism" lie, and is associated with the "vaccines cause autism" lie. There's even more, but yeah he didn't bother to do research before supporting a fellow youtuber's charity/donations/etc that is connected to autism speaks. I'd have to go dig up the articles/posts/pages again and I'm busy with work this weekend but yeah.

[@RyanEglitis]

Bro's trying to shame hackers into not cracking things lmao

[@jetsflyingoffatrain4338]

Breaking into a file isn't hacking

[@wheedler]

@@jetsflyingoffatrain4338 How so?

[@NotPcPlayer]

I saw the noti and I was HYPED and now im still HYPED. Thankyou dinnerbone! Btw you’re fun to troll with in mc ❤️

[@jeromepoe946]

Love the video but I can’t be certain dinnerbone isnt just using misdirection to try and keep people away from it. I honestly won’t consider this settled until the password is revealed and I can open the file myself. Believe me I’d like nothing more than to fully trust dinnerbone but I can’t get myself to when I know this is the good PR move to just get people to stop focusing on it.

[@tybaltharr3304]

And why do you deserve to know? What gives you the right to know for yourself? Why can't we, as a community, let it go? It's just a file for a game we all *happen* to enjoy.

[@jeromepoe946]

@@tybaltharr3304 bro I’m just speculating stop getting butthurt and get your head out your rear end

[@VisisOcelumi]

@@tybaltharr3304 Nobody said anything about 'deserving' to know. Just because people want to know doesn't mean they 'deserve' it,but they will still try to search. The whole entitlement argument just seems to be used as a way to shut down discussion,nobody's saying they deserve these things,just that they want to open them,and they do not expect to be given a clear answer on a silver plate just because they want them.

[@enduity]

You can do that now, Google it, it was cracked

[@SpeedyGwen]

its still NOT a conclusion... we still dont have the password, they could be lying and it could maybe be something totally different, one way would be for them to recompress that original archive but with a simpler password that ends up with the archive having the same checksum and gives it to us with that new and harmless password but they didnt even do that, its horrible ! we're still verry far from the end of that misterry and I will not abandon

[@Dxgi_x3]

it got cracked the password is boxpig41

[@physicsdenier793]

love how "we're still very far from the end" was said only about 3 hours before it ended

[@American_Mappin]

I think it turns out that Mojang devlopers were consistent as to whats on the original tominecon.7z. Just a barely different version of Minecraft Java 1.0. And I gotta say, Love all the thumbnails on the tominecon trilogy.

[@riku3971]

NO WAY I WAS JUST WATCHING THE SEQUEL AND THIS JUST CAME OUT???

[@jaczylijaaleniepowiemkto3243]

IT HASN'T BEEN A FULL DAY SINCE WE DEEMED THIS MYSTERY UNSOLVABLE *inhale* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@AnonsTreasures]

"We" no RGN deemed it that way, and suddenly dinnerbone shows up and continues to try and dissuade it. The cracking community hasn't stopped and never did. Even after RGN pushed us off his discord.

[@jaczylijaaleniepowiemkto3243]

@@AnonsTreasures Bro, I'm just a casual viewer. I still have a life outside of slaving away to open 10 year old files with (propably) nothing in them, so if the guy who introduced me to the mystery says it's over, the mystery is over to me.

[@generallyunimportant]

@@jaczylijaaleniepowiemkto3243 >casual viewer >polish name

[@revertfellpapyrusfandeunde4380]

​@@generallyunimportantwhat's wrong with having a polish username

[@generallyunimportant]

@@revertfellpapyrusfandeunde4380 never trust slavic people, especially polish. they're hiding something and i know it

[@Supahdenning]

But Dinnerbone only started working at Mojang in 2012 though? He's talking about the file as if he has first-hand experience and was at Minecon, which is not the case.

[@thederpypikachu9873]

I mean, I've worked at companies and because I was told and updated on previous situations, I had a lot of knowledge on it, even though I wasn't actively there. Dinnerbone probably had the same thing. It was a small team back then, and even now, small teams working on something talk to each other about past events or things all the time. Not even just for game development. It's happened at all but one of the jobs I've worked over the years, and at every single school and club I've been in, except the club I had created. People tell stories, and since it hasn't been a huge amount of time, and since there's probably some form of documentation in a file or old notes somewhere, Dinnerbone still knows about everything. He also could be just acting as the contact on behalf of not just himself, but other devs. Like they all communicated and were able to compile knowledge to answer a question and since the interview was written discord messages, he could rewrite from outside notes or messages instead of having to say it out loud. Just food for thought

[@Supahdenning]

@@thederpypikachu9873 He directly says he used tominecon to update the game to the "recently released 1.0" on the "show floor", which cannot be true. This is a serious issue.

[@Supahdenning]

Was my response hidden? Dinnerbone directly says he used tominecon to update the game to the "recently released 1.0" on the "show floor", which cannot be true. This is a serious issue.

[@toplil4118]

Before he was hired by Mojang, he was part of the Bukkit team. The video says he was at Minecon to live-update Bukkit for Release 1.0, which is also why he has the file and the password.

[@cm4363]

holy shit this video was literally uploaded the minute after i watched your previous two videos about this topic. what is my luck

[@The_Very_Halal_Indonesia]

3 Parts? I didn't expect this series to end so fast

[@andrewpinedo1883]

IIRC this is the longest single-topic series on the entire channel.

[@volchonokilliR]

Well it's not really the end. There (probably) will be an epilogue

[@beepbop6697]

Startup company likely used the same password on everything: this 7z, their (AWS) cloud accounts, hell probably on the company's bank account too. This is why dinnerbone remembers the password used to encrypt the file, and also why he doesn't want it to become "known" because: 1. impossible to know if that old/shared password is still being used somewhere on some legacy system in the company 2. other archived 7z that might be floating around from decade+ ago that might contain something sensitive (email archives, financial record archives, etc).

[@octoguygmod]

I accidentally made it a tradition to play Pikmin 4 when one of these videos came out

[@ThunderCube3888]

now you have to play Minecraft when Schaffrillas Productions uploads a Pikmin video

[@leventeiles2281]

3 RGN videos in 10 days??? Must be dreamin

[@JakobRossner-qj1wo]

We need quantum computers to check whats really in the 7z

[@pety1245]

Just saw at the end that all music is produced by you. That is insane!! Maybe we could get a few music prod videos?:)

[@Hexra_]

Gray hats and White hats do typically know how to crack passwords but they don't do it to every password they see. I guess Dinnerbone was trying to prevent people from being so comfortable of breaking into encrypted files that they unethically hack into everything

[@_BangDroid_]

He only fueled the fire. People who weren't that interested are less so, people who were very interested are more so

[@Lampe2020]

Wow. Just because my sleep rythm is completely messed up (it's 23 25 here right now) I saw this video basically "still warm from the oven" XD

[@rusprice]

I watched every video of this series on its release date on the toilet I just realized 😭

[@bony_ttv]

I literally just finished the first video on this, and when I refreshed youtube this was right at the top. The algorithm is on point today.

[@Shrieqer]

3 videos just to reveal a big fat nothing…

[@LookinGoodAnya]

Not every curiosity is worth the cat dying for 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Shrieqer]

@@LookinGoodAnya I’d prefer no cats ever dying, but I appreciate the reference. Still, they could’ve at the very least shown us some footage from that Minecon game build or something. Ending it with just a dev interview that only tip-toes around the topic, and ends with him warning the community about trying something like that again left a bitter taste.

[@astronautwashere]

a part three? damn now i'm invested

[@Emerald29]

The only difference between it and 1.0 is just 4 characters in the code lmao

[@Kingbor_5860]

Huh a video everyday for me to watch while I'm eating lunch, not the mention very. Interesting

[@D_Evelyn_cat]

RGN dropping videos like kendrick dropping disses

[@s.a.m.2300]

The moral of the story: its not an ARG, so stop trying to solve a mystery that isn't a mystery

[@TheBrain2K]

"Please don't try and break into every lock you see." ... Dragonborn has entered the chat

[@mrpro7737]

password is "boxpig41" 😂😂😂

[@DracoFroggo]

Honestly I kinda appreciate this sort of like... half-reveal? Like it's enough to satisfy people that are just curious about what's inside the zip, but still leaves some room for people who are really determined to crack the file.

[@cam1e754]

I love youe background music its so scary

[@seandashine]

Its illegal that Dinnerbone pfp isnt upside down 💀

[@TendajisWorldTV]

NEW VIDEO ALREADY??? RGN YOU KILLING IT BRO, YOU AINT HAVE A BAD VIDEO YET

[@vendetta.02]

Once quantum computers come out and become commonplace, this archive will get successfully cracked.

[@XeroTTV]

No, at current estimate quantum computers would still take CENTURIES to crack this thing

[@Noughtsgnik]

we just need to get all the quantum computer

[@nakdu3936]

​@@XeroTTV technically, there is a small chance I mash my keyboard and randomly guess the password. I love gambling

[@jeffreyblack666]

Quantum computers are not magic. They can't just magically do everything super fast. You need a specific algorithm which leverages the quantum nature of the quantum computer to be able to do things faster. e.g. Shor's algorithm for factoring integers (which can still take quite a long time). So far the best algorithm I know of for this would be similar to cutting down the bits by a factor of 2 (i.e. making it take 2^128 iterations), but now require a very big quantum computer.

[@Jan12700]

6:00 Say this to all State Organisations how do this daily

[@wheedler]

"Why do you guys even want this password? It's so dumb to want it. You think it's fun to see secret files? These secret files are so boring, they're only a little different to the files you already have. The password means nothing to me, but I won't give it to you. Goodbye forever!"

[@ryelor123]

Watch the password is the name of that 1979 Swedish film that people used to troll each other with on here years ago. I think I found the name but I won't mention it here because it had nude kids in the first scene which was on KZbin.

[@gregoryturk1275]

I think RGN is being threatened by Mojang because the contents of the file are very important

[@kazii_the_avali]

thank you dinnerbone for being an OG. i still think it would be neet to crack it to just have minecon arcive 1.0 but hopefully for the majority of us this has satisfied our curiositys.

[@FrigidOven]

Is it really entitlement to try and access a locked zip files contents? At least to me, it seems more like a case or curiousity gone too far. I doubt that many feel as though they are *owed* access to the file. And if you left it public, you have yourself to blame just as much as everyone else.

[@holyjewel]

He’s acting as the “poor innocent victim” of a crime that doesn’t exist.

[@laugherdose655]

bhra for the next april fools Mojang should make an april fools version and upload it like this for people to find

[@TeraunceFoaloke]

Still would be interesting to see the world included in the archive.

[@seeya_cya]

just as i thought, that password indeed was used online and most likely is somewhere in data breaches, it just had be found

[@qszymons]

God damn, RGN is on fire this week 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@AstaStaria-li1pe]

The only thing, dinnerbone joined in 2012 from what I heard, and the file made in 2011, so why is he giving his view on the file as if he was there when it was made? How would he remember something he wasn’t there to experience?

[@generallyunimportant]

unpaid intern? or equivalent for mojang back in the day ig

[@thederpypikachu9873]

You tell stories and explain stuff. Especially on small teams. It's happened at all but one job and all schools I've been to. Even if I wasn't there, I could tell you exactly what happened surrounding a few specific events because it's communicated, documented, etc. Something like this would absolutely be shared in a small dev team, even with new employees.

[@jetsflyingoffatrain4338]

He was there for the swap, he didn't coment on the file before that passed it's content. He was being harrassed over it so he wanted everyone to stop messaging him as said in the QNA

[@Wieku]

Dinnerbone was one of Bukkit (alternate Minecraft server with plugin support) developers. He mentions updating Bukkit live at minecon, not the game itself. So it's very likely he had insider info before getting officially hired, especially when Mojang was a small indie company at that time.

[@AstaStaria-li1pe]

@@thederpypikachu9873 ok, that is a decent explanation, but what about when he gives explanations that sound like to me it’s not really from his point of view? Wouldn’t it be better for jeb to answer, as then it would be even more mystery, or someone else who knows for sure, just someone who was directly involved is all

[@guigui0246]

The password is a safety measure but the password is the sensitive information.... that's weird

[@LiEnby]

Before Minecraft 1.0 released it could be a bit of a problem. After it did. It doesn't really matter

[@Zedorfska]

Three RGN videos in the span if a week.. God bless 🙏

[@szupertntakos5000]

About Dinnerbone's responses the only thing I can say is this: We are naturally built to conquer challenges and do the impossible. Cavemen invented fire, something that seemed to come straight from hell and harnested it's power. Something no other creature dared to. We built complicated tools, because twigs from the ground were cool but we really wanted that giant tree, we really wanted those finely cut bricks, we wanted that huge mammoth's meat. And even in the past millenia, we invented lightning in a bottle (aka electricity) and then used it to make a brain that could do collage-graduate grade math in 0.01 seconds (aka computers). If that file is not meant to be cracked, then we HAVE to crack it. It's a challenge noone and nothing else would dare to attempt but a human. Because we are built to conquer. We eighter succed in the end, or die trying.

[@lu2timess]

Right because cracking a Minecraft file of barely any importance is such an expression of the human experience and it's completely worth pouring so much time and money into it, the Minecraft community has gone completely insane

[@gavros9636]

Do you have a quantum computer? No? Then you should quit while you're ahead this will take multiple universe lifetimes. With a quantum computer it should take a single universe's lifetime.

[@finalfantasu7615]

wise words...

[@audax117]

Ofc, until you crack the wrong file and... well... let's just say your life may end up like Aiden Pearce's from Watch Dogs. Ignorance is a bliss sometimes

[@Copperkaiju]

I think we should maybe conquer our greed before anything else.

[@TheOoberTooberJr]

Honestly, I felt like this was the case from the start. People tend to love having a challenge that gets solved collectively rather than facing the challenge alone. We're social creatures anyway, so when we collaborate on anything with complete strangers by our side, there's this synchronicity that occurs and it gives some people a dopamine rush from actively working on a solution to a perceived challenge. The problem comes when people confuse that rush or drive they get coming from their desire to know the solution instead of it coming from just the input they have on finding a solution to a supposed problem or anomaly. Dinnerbone is right when he says people take things too far without thinking of the most likely answer to their question.

[@loweni7460]

Then he should have never engaged with the community or said he has the password despite them reaching out he always had the option to just refuse to elaborate further

[@Pete_Ness]

Literally clicked as soon as this released lol, love the series on this file

[@DR20005]

Thank you for making this series exist - this is a part of internet history

[@ChubsGlobby]

Man who gives a fuck if its just minecraft then let someone save it for archival reasons idk

[@Copperkaiju]

This mystery has become a bit of a controversy. One that is part of a very old debate. How much entitlement does the public have to information? Personally, I'm satisfied with the answer we've been given but I know there are those that would be offended by that position. Calling me "naive" or whatever. Scepticism is good in moderate amounts but sometimes the boring answer is the correct one and sceptical energy is better spent elsewhere.

[@killingtimeitself]

the public has no entitlement to any information, but nobody has any entitlement to expect their wishes be respected also i suppose.

[@kirkanos771]

You realise there are countries where it is forbidden to detain passworded stuff you dont own ? What if you get arrested, investigated and asked to open the file and you cant. But if law enforcement gets a mean to crack it, discover compromising evidences putting suspicion over you. That's why. Never accept a trojan horse. There is no valid reason to store at your depends, any locked informations.

[@thederpypikachu9873]

I think that there's nuance that a lot of people online don't necessarily recognize in situations like this. I think it's fascinating and a very cool part of internet and gaming history that should be archived and told, but people who think they should have access to anything on the internet just because it's on the internet need to recognize that that isn't the case. Just because it's all 1s and 0s and electrical signals that almost anyone can access doesn't mean we all can have free reign. I almost don't know how to word my thoughts on it. It's like the physical world. Technically, because we all exist in the physical world, we all have access to everywhere on the planet. But you don't just travel wherever you want whenever you want and barge your way into locked or restricted places, be it because of individual privacy, security, safety, or some other reason. The internet is the same way. You can't just go wherever you want without consequences. Because people's lives may be affected. Sure, in this case, it's just minecraft, but imagine if people did this to any private account, database, etc. You could destroy lives just by forcing your way in. Sorry for the ramble. I again just think nuance isn't recognized. And it also depends on yknow, the situation. Like law enforcement should be able to access accounts to help find missing people or to stop threats, but not just to monitor and censor. The average person should be able to access information and archives, but not every single page or file is theirs. Last thing: makes me think of how people misunderstand "free speech" in the USA. Free speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want to whoever you want, it's the right to speak out against the government etc. People seem to think similarly about the internet. "I have access to the internet, therefore I deserve access to every single thing connected to the internet even if it's clearly locked away for a reason".

[@wheedler]

@@thederpypikachu9873 I think a lot of people (including apparently Dinnerbone) are confusing a combination of curiosity and ambition for entitlement. I don't think people think they deserve or have the right to know the password, but they still want to have it. It's not unfair if the password isn't revealed, but it's not satisfying, either.

[@thederpypikachu9873]

@@wheedler oh no, there are absolutely people who think they deserve or entitled to the password. There's people in this comment section implying that. About the confusion: I'm not saying every single person is doing this. But a LOT of people on the internet do have the "entitlement" mindset. There are absolutely people who are involved with this situation both historically and currently who are 100% thinking they're entitled and "deserve" to have the password. You can be curious, sure, but there are a good number of individuals taking curiosity so far into entitlement to the answer.

[@ai_is_a_great_place]

Wow! I'm shocked how fast the update came 🤯

[@StephenRansom47]

👏 This was a fun ride … so thanks. I am deeply intrigued by Mystery Hunting in general. An exercise to strengthen my ability to see through a puzzle, or more precisely; to see through people who hunt. I’m into the Ancient World mystery, and these distractions help build a spectrum for foolishness. Again, Thanks for your excellent sleuthing.