The End...Wrecked Me: Final Fantasy VII Remake (Chpt. 18-2 FINALE)

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[@ds5206]

Sephiroth cant read. It all makes sense now. He went crazy in the shinra mansion library because none of the books had pictures.

[@greyalice]

Under appreciated comment

[@cosmiccomet_2705]

Lol

[@BWAngel09]

Thanks for making my day.

[@AidanDark]

omegalul

[@kaplooeygames8515]

Of course! Genius take

[@praxis4723]

When I fought sephiroth he rushed aerith at one point and I freaked out and blocked his attack with cloud. She actually said "Were you worried about me?" 😳

[@Leonick777]

Little moments like that are why I appreciate this battle system so much!

[@IshikawaGoemon]

Are you serious? I have to try to recreate that.

[@xcloudx6668]

AerithxCloud there

[@NeutralGloomBot]

I hope they make this into a thousand games just so I can hear these characters banter with each other indefinitely. lol

[@vibeguru]

Because that sewers scene you had to choose who to wake up first. Aerith or Tifa.

[@MacRain]

In the end, tifa finally got her shower.

[@NoExplosionsMcgee]

Lol!

[@erenyeager3557]

You know what ig she did 😂

[@JT-ll9sg]

And thats all that matters

[@MrZoran84]

To be a bar of soap

[@llllllllllIlllllllIlllll]

well, she did "kill" specter aggregates and shits

[@nateriver7848]

I was yelling "NOO MAX" when he cast thundaga on a lightning infused sephiroth and healed him for 2000 hp lmao

[@darthcerebus]

And summoning a fire god demon on a fire infused Sephiroth XD

[@akly1379]

i don't know if i'm blind but I can't find that anywhere

[@13thKingMu]

@@akly1379 so basically in ff7,if you use the same cast type to enemy who has the same type of that cast,it will heal them instead of hurting them. I'm confused about your comment so i'm sorry if it get that wrong

[@therealkaz5824]

@@13thKingMu the person didn’t know where in the video Max used Thundaga on Sephiroth

[@Chr15Payne]

@@akly1379 1:02:54 Sephiroth casts lightning infusion and then a few moments later right after he casts ATB Ward with Aerith he casts thundaga and it heals him

[@ProjectIceman]

Zack: "Wait. Is that all of them?" Max: *Shocked Pikachu*

[@sonyafirefly3879]

We all became an army of shocked Pikachus

[@Shephchan]

ProjectIceman can,t even make up his mind if Biggs n Wedge should be dead. Nomuras gone soft I tells ya.

[@Chaser547]

@@Shephchan I'm just waiting for them to gut punch us in the gold saucer.

[@viviv6774]

@@Shephchan I'm actually quite afraid if we get a too much "happy ending" with everyone alive in the end. Like yeah i wanna see aerith survive and see zack be happy with her and get to have more interaction with cloud. even angeal and genesis would be cool to see. but will that still hold the original message and the power the original story had ? I'm not against having something completely different than the original game, i'm not that nostalgic over it since i've played it for the first time only a few months ago. but it still had some reallly powerful scene and moments. I just hope nomura doesn't do us a kh3 where even sephiroth comes back from the dark side and regain his sanity/ control over jenova. or worse, that they make jenova the main antagonist, put her into a body and give her a voice. that would just ruin her character as an alien parasite and the mistery around her powers. (kinda remind me of "the thing" from John carpenter in some ways) Or making shinra the main ennemy. In the end, I'd rather see aerith die again for a good plot (like something we change our fate so this has some impact, but there are some things that needs to happen and some things that even WE can't control and have to accept) rather than having her survive but it's some bad fanfic level bullshit. (fanfic can be great but sometime it can be a little too much and too cheesy)

[@Avarice0918]

@@viviv6774 the original game already delivered the message and everybody recieved it plus this is a remake so let things change and let there be a happy end

[@Taseradict]

57:05 (preparing for Sephiroth) "he probably doesn't like fire right??" Nibbleheim left the chat

[@undyingsephiroth2279]

That’s funny

[@ProjectIceman]

@@undyingsephiroth2279 I think the fact you commented afterwards with the name you have is ironic

[@gamecub911]

The answer is often wind for sephiroth also you can counter everything the throws at you with well times blocks and counter stance. Use chakra for easy no mp cost healing. Can use mp absorption spells. Parry materia deadly dodge materia and many other purple ability materia for advantages. Dont select comands for your part members by switching to them. While blocking with someone use your triggers to pause time and activate non active player abilities so they can land and not be countered by sephiroths deadly attention. The best trick is to use cloud blocking activate party abilities while still in control of cloud use chakra to heal with atb and steadfast block to allow more atb charge for blocking. so the ap of party members is staggering him. And clouds is mean for control.

[@thelandlord5350]

Taseradict LMFAO!!!

[@LongNguyen-lx8if]

Taseradict 😂

[@Fire_of756]

Oh my god. This isn't just any Sephiroth. This is Sephiroth from the future! The guy we have always fought in the old games. That's why he absolutely trumped Cloud's Omnislash at the end, where in a similar scene in the old games with him shirtless we actually beat him with the Ommislash. Yet here Sephiroth blocked every blow, as if he had already experienced it. Just... Holy shit this game!

[@ShiiroHasu]

Nah he only blocked omnislash because he had his coat on still

[@darthcerebus]

Sephiroth is part of the lifestream. He exists in the planet's very essence, and shown off by this entire game, it's entire history. Sephiroth literally reloaded his save with all the experience of future scenarios.

[@christophpoll784]

@@darthcerebus sephiroth uses "New Game+" - it is quite effective.

[@J0J0155]

This Sephiroth is LITERALLY future Sephiroth, the one Cloud has beaten multiple times (may be the one we see in the movie too). He is literally reshaping the history of FF7...

[@ryderls2729]

Plus the fact that he says "Ahhh the memories" at one point during the fight

[@agentorange1556]

I feel like this versions Aerith and Sephiroth knows what happened 23 years ago.

[@SyntheticShinobi]

Yeah I think the point of the ending was that they fought fate/destiny itself to change the events of the first game. This makes sense because multiple times in the story Aerith had premonitions of the future, such as when she gave directions to a place she’d never been to, or when she knew tifas name before she even had met her. T I M E T R A V E L

[@metasprite5648]

@@SyntheticShinobi that's some attack on titan shit right there

[@Godmcgod]

Stuff like this is so fucking epic when done right. I never played the original so just learning about everything surrounding the story and the ending, holy hell, this is a masterpiece. Can't wait for part 2

[@YourDevastator]

@@SyntheticShinobi yup yup. We at Back to the Future Part II next game. Can't wait!

[@joshsleezetube]

My theory is that Sephiroth wants a do-over. Think about it; he would’ve totally won if he didn’t kill Aerith. How he actually DID it though I have no clue. How he was able to go back in time is super unclear to me but what is clear is he dragged Aerith with him. Maybe not intentionally though. Or maybe she’s just that attuned with the planet and the planet is helping guide her to the truth of it? Either way it’s SO much more interesting than a shot for shot remake.

[@MoriXIII]

"Almost there, Cloud. We're almost there..." never in my life a scene from any form of media moved me emotionaly as this one did

[@daesong1378]

I'd play a game where the time line continued and Zack and Cloud start a mercenary company together

[@MoriXIII]

@@daesong1378 Maybe that'll be a possibility in the remake, if the theories are right

[@RpgRiser1]

@@daesong1378 Saaame, after playing Crisis Core, Zack easily took the top spot as my favorite FF character, playing as him again would please the fanboy in me so much

[@kyzersoze8408]

Danny Khim huh? That’s pretty reminiscent of big boss and kaz from metal gear?

[@daesong1378]

@@kyzersoze8408 I never played MG lol

[@TheNarutodude1995]

At the end of Crisis Core, Zack talks about Aerith being afraid of the actual sky. At the end of Re-Make, Aerith talks about missing the steel sky.

[@Sagarderian]

Well in the Japanese dialogues, she actually said "as I thought. I hate this vast sky"

[@ianhell8747]

@@Sagarderian no i play Japanese version

[@Sagarderian]

@@ianhell8747so what does "sora, kirai da na" means to you?

[@monophthalmus2139]

@@Sagarderian It should be "I hate this sky" or something close to it.

[@CryofthePlanet]

@@Sagarderian「 空。。。嫌いだな」just means "I hate the sky." Or more literally, "The sky... I hate it." Your translation takes a few random liberties, like "as I thought."

[@YamiGenesis]

1:09:13 I love how cloud got smacked to the right and then immediately smacked to the left XD I don't know why I love that so much but it made me laugh

[@GruntSquad92]

sharp eye, damn, its fucking hilarious!

[@soruwindx6419]

I find it hilarious because of the camera angle lmao. I also lost my shit when Cloud got thrown the first time and Aerith just gracefully spins to left to avoid his collision.

[@AlwonDomz]

“Aggghhh... Ohhh...”

[@kuronyra1709]

"Alright I got you this ti-" *FUCK!* "I'm an Ex-Soldier, you can't just throw me aw-" *SHIT!*

[@deltahizuro7689]

BONK X2

[@J0J0155]

On Hard, if Sephiroth kills Aerith in the final battle while you control her, Sephiroth will sometimes say "Ah, The Memories..."

[@dsjim1]

Serious? Damn

[@ucarouen]

He says that randomly throughout the fight. It isn't specific to Aerith.

[@J0J0155]

@@ucarouen still an important footnote, means he isn't that timeline's Sephiroth, but a sephiroth we know as the player

[@ucarouen]

@@J0J0155 He also says it when casting fire sometimes. The burning of Nibelheim was a past event at that point. "Ahh the memories".

[@unholymalformationoffisto2131]

@@ucarouen This is true, but he also says quote, "Shall I give you despair?" And, "beg for forgiveness" which are pretty much, if not verbatim quotes from advent children.

[@peppercat1887]

Can we all appreciate and acknowledge that Aerith was with us when we fight Sephiroth? That in itself was unthinkable before.

[@nghtspawn651]

It actually changes based on something. Sometimes Aerith joins the fight before Tifa.

[@santus07]

It's optional, I got Barret instead on hard playtrough! Its based on the chapter 8 and 9 actions! and all the dressing stuff. Also in the sewers, you can pick tifa instead of aerith Basically, don't give aerith any love, and Barret will show up then hahahaha It's the same as affinity relations in others rpgs

[@alfredorojas8733]

Sanctuario Gamer it’s actually a point system for when you are fighting the harbinger certain things you do during the fight can have a character gain points. You get points for using an ability/spell/item, using a limit break, reducing any whispers health to 0 and staggering them, or finishing of whisper Bahamut or whisper Harbinger. The number of points obtained are different for every character but in a way you can have whoever you want to fight alongside Cloud for the Sephiroth fight.

[@santus07]

@@alfredorojas8733 really?? Omg wtf hahaha Thanks for the info

[@GMthunderbreak]

Oh my friend but she was with us, although not physically. She helped mobilize lifestream and destroyed meteor in the end.

[@Plasmacat1]

This is the most wholesome playthrough I ever seen. With channels filled with fake reactions, distractions by chat or the viewers, this is so real and pure. Even after I finished the game I watched the whole thing since I couldn't catch the stream. Thanks Max.

[@gmusashi_45]

Yea, a geniune fan and able to show it with passion. Some streamers cant even stay focused on the game since they kept checking their chat every 5 seconds.

[@superdupersubby]

Same, I didn't watch the stream to avoid spoilers.

[@Cobaltios]

Max actually decided to disable chat for most of the finale, just to be on the safe side.

[@Jouzujoe]

Yup, and the only being choked up is for all the right reasons...not just crying at random bits of dialogue where characters are just talking. It's always refreshing to see genuine appreciation/love and not someone jumping on a bandwagon.

[@jeremya.3698]

Yes, thank you so much.

[@zthoop64]

FF7 remake, the retold tale of aerith and tifa trying to keep cloud straight while sephiroth attempts repeatedly to seduce him with the power of his kissy lips.

[@ShiiroHasu]

@@Helloim_anthony ye. A remake

[@PixelShade]

you deserve more likes. :)

[@nyxurich8959]

Different timeline man....

[@grendel3290]

@@Helloim_anthony Nah, it's a remake. And also kind of a sequel to Advent Children?

[@turma8eac]

“Let us defy destiny together” Its very blatantly the case

[@SkellyHertz]

Something that strikes me as interesting is that, when Cloud refuses to help Sephiroth, Sephiroth looks actually frustrated for a moment. He's always been cool and composed, even when slaughtering people. It makes me think that he might honestly need Cloud's help and yet doesn't understand how to express it. He, a person who cast aside his humanity and all such connections, has to reach out to someone else.

[@FragmentedR_YT]

I’m still very curious as to why he needs Cloud on his side at all. I guess that alone is proof that it’s not the original timeline Sephiroth, since that Sephiroth didn’t give a shit about Cloud, besides his Jenova cells I guess.

[@huzino7716]

I mean I don't get it can't he just control clouds jenova cells ??

[@flimermithrandir]

@@huzino7716 Thats the Thing. He can only control him. Only him. Not the others as it seems they might also be Sephiroth but… Cloud is the Key for him to… i dont know how to say it… do more more Things. Thats why. Why exactly? Is another Question i dont know the Answer. It could have to do with the Fact that Sephiroth has a deeper Conection to him then to anyone else. But it could also be the Fact that he has a deeper Connection to Aerith. (We already know that he needs Cloud to get him the Black Materia later but there is more to that after that too i think). (The Chapters from A Way to a Smile did bring me to the conclusion that Sephiroth can be himself as long as Cloud lives. Thats why he „needs him“. Or as he said in this Game. „Run Cloud. You need to Live“)

[@PilgrimMinistry]

FINALLY, someone else who caught that as well. I’m not sure what Sephiroth was trying to convey or what he truly wants out of it, but he seemed, for that moment, he was genuinely disappointed.

[@mokie7421]

@Split Dimension idk anything about ff7, but in one of the couple top comments, someone said the 7 seconds was the amount time Sephiroth took to kill Aerith. They go more in depth about it with timelines and stuff. It should be easy to find it.

[@vocalcalibration8033]

Sephiroth standing in Ifrit's Hellfire like "This is fine."

[@metalsmithnick8714]

Toasty warm 😂

[@ohno-sohoho]

"Oh, the memories"

[@GrifCannons]

"This is fire"

[@shoutenry]

My brain exploded during this fight because Max hit Sephiroth with thunder during Thunder Infusion and healed him for like 2k. Then he goes Fire Infusion and then immediately Max summons Ifrit. He was actually super lucky that Sephiroth almost immediately went Wind Infusion.

[@Shatter149]

story wise, he will run away from there. lol

[@EverythingKeem]

Anyone Else realize that cloud tried to Omnislash Sephiroth? He blocked it all because he's been here before.

[@Jose-se9pu]

*PREDICTABLE*

[@logus2183]

No, actually they’re building this up to a final confront when Cloud actually learned the omnislash and destroy sephiroth once and for all

[@brokenlordofcinder2519]

wasn’t the secret to omnislash was because it made cloud become too strong and fast for sephiroth to even counter?

[@zephyr.GG26]

Broken Lord Of Cinder there is multiple versions of omnislash tho, sephiroth actually blocks the original omnislash in AC stabbing cloud in his shoulder to counter. The omnislash that finishes him ends up being a newer improved version, As OP mentioned sephiroth blocked this omnislash implying this seph has knowledge of the events that occur all through ff7 to AC

[@taamox]

timestamp please?

[@King_Luigi]

Poor Max... He went through the entire game and despite all his fighting and searching... He never was able to Ass-Ass that Doom Rat.

[@jordannewthomas3293]

My word you're right...I never realized.

[@mrlavosplays8281]

Lol so true

[@Lu-bc3pl]

Little does he know٫ this is the bad ending. its because he didnt assass the doomrat

[@Squeaky245]

@@Lu-bc3pl All these months and there're _still_ people that haven't seen the True Rat Ending.

[@evoction9049]

@@Squeaky245 We shall find it

[@WhiteHawk77]

2:15 “You’re wrong” “Everything about you is wrong”. Yeah, she’s not talking about Sephiroth being an evil SOB, she knows that he’s from the future.

[@yogurt113]

My favorite part of this whole sequence is the very end where cloud duels at the edge of creation. It’s an exact short for shot recreation of the final dual from FF7 OG, except sephiroth now anticipates his every move and blocks every omnislash blow before telling him “not yet”. He’s seen it all before. The value from subsequent play throughs is awesome in this game. So many layers.

[@sirjazz1268]

Also, at the opposite of the original scene where we faces Sephiroth, camera goin' behind the shoulder of Cloud... We were put behind Sephiroth's shoulder this Time. Minor change, but might be though too.

[@spookycalzoner]

I loved that scene alot im excited about whats to come

[@ashmetcalf3757]

In the original translation, he is saying closer to "not enough" which changes the contexts of the fight. interestingly “but what will you do with it" line is quite different to the Japanese line where he says ”but we can still make it in time, the future is up to you, cloud.”

[@themadgamer4571]

Yeah they can add all this and say, conceptually that this all existed. PS1 was limited compared to what we have now for storytelling. Other platform releases expanding the story, allowing for the remake to piece it together. The OG ending Cloud mentions his understanding, from the planet, that he can meet her... there. A sign that Cloud had a vision, we just have a lot more now. Cloud coincindetally showing up at Shinra HQ with Avalanche the same time Sephiroth did, while Cloud was convinced that he was dead. Now we can say that the whispers were the reason why everything lined up so perfectly. In the OG we just played the outcome of failing at defeating Whisper Harbinger. As Red XIII points out the vision of him, "what happens tomorrow if we fail." It can still happen, OG ending = bad ending now. We get an opportunity to expand on what else might happen. Which is sick! Any more exposure to this world and these characters. Milk me all you want Squenix, I am just super grateful we got a remake. What would have been interesting is if they implemented a one chance fight at the Whisper Harbingers, if you fail, our save data continues on through the releases to the OG ending. And if we beat them we get what we are getting now.

[@lgd921]

Link video of the OG?

[@JamesTheTurnbull]

1:04:56 Sometimes I forget Sephiroth *is* that badass. Max: "EAT ASCENSION BIT-" Sephiroth: "No" *denied.mp4*

[@sebastianc2077]

Oh i don't think so

[@yonisf_fzzz2188]

I tried he just touched my blade and i instantly flew 200m

[@MariusBoss11458]

Sephiroth: If you mean God of War Ascension... That was shit... So no thanks. No offense. Game had potential.

[@PilgrimMinistry]

Did anyone notice the part when Sephiroth knocks Cloud’s sword out of his hand, it lands in the same way (in the same rocks) as the New Game / Continue screen? Just a nice little nod.

[@minasthirith6314]

5 months late reply but here. That which lies beyond does not yet exist. The edge of creation, where this story may begin; The edge of creation, where you may choose to end it.

[@nepspartan-7597]

@@minasthirith6314 "Careful now. That which lies ahead does not yet exist." *Staring at the silhouette of Safer Sephiroth in the red nebula*

[@Snerff]

Also during that fight Sephiroth is fighting with his right hand even tho he's left handed, my guy wasn't even trying.

[@ShirouBrando]

@@nepspartan-7597 i can kinda see it thats crazy

[@Fr34k1ng0ut]

@@Snerff well, he doesn't want to kill Cloud. Just wants to hurt him. Really, really bad. :)

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

I just realized that Cloud is actually trying to Omnislash Sephiroth at the ennd, but Sephiroth predicts every single strike. That time travel is somehow involved is all but certian, seeing as how Sephiroth has been on the recieving end HOW many times now?

[@EduardoTorelly]

or right now cloud just isnt strong enought. sephiroth just toyed with cloud there. the guy barely move form the place and just kept smiling

[@huzino7716]

Maybe cloud just hasn't mastered it yet

[@lonk_skonk]

Not to mention how his plan involves destroying destiny, which keeps the plot of remake in line with og which means he would lose, why would he even try to stop fate if he didn't know his was to lose

[@drewlaw2192]

@Split Dimension sephiroth has been able to defend against the regular omnislash since advent children

[@ChainsawGutsFuck]

The only way it makes sense is if Sephiroth has directly tapped into the Lifestream and can see past, present and future all in one, and is trying to change it. I hte time travel theories so I'm really hoping this is the reasoning we get, because future Sephiroth is dead; he can't just come reform himself and come back in time or defeating him is pointless.

[@kelbi346]

and thus, Aerith and Sephiroth's chess battle of fate begins

[@sgtsmith501]

I suppose you could call it a... *DUEL OF THE FATES* !!!

[@mas8705]

It's going to end with Aerith forcing him into a check and forcing him to capture the queen piece for him to be put into checkmate, isn't it?

[@Cressx]

queue Death Note music

[@MalosPrime]

But what does Destiny have in store for Cloud and crew?

[@SuperFusionAJ93]

Kelbi Aerith: I must consult with the elder gods.

[@wood1066]

It's a nice little nod that Sephiroth says "oh the memories" when he uses fire infusion.

[@idleeidolon]

burning hometowns since 1997.

[@kalamander8563]

I think my favorite part of the Sephiroth fight is that we were getting a remix of the theme, until Aerith came in. As soon as she showed up, the classic One Winged Angel starts pumping through the speaker.

[@josias2510]

1:02:21 Yeah, when he shows up his one wing the actual One-Winged Angel theme starts. I was just going to comment that, I'm happy that someone else noticed it!

[@laurajanco2i]

it depends by the choices of the player who goes in at that part. So he doesn't reall matter if it's Aerith or others, one thing tho, is that when Sephiroth is fighting against thee three and he attacks Aerith he says "Ahhh, the memories...". He knows... (edit, it's not just with Aerith, he says that randomly even with Cloud or others)

[@ShirouBrando]

@@laurajanco2i i know its late but he says the memories line when he infuses himself with fire you know beacuse he burned down niblehime

[@laurajanco2i]

@@ShirouBrando yeah, I know. I saw it after lol

[@360Fov]

you've got to pump it up, you've got to pump it up, you've got to pump it up, you've got to pump it up, you've got to pump it up, you've got to pump it up, you've got to pump it up

[@fearlesscheshirecat1411]

The scene with Zack hits a lot harder now that I just got done playing Crisis Core for the first time.

[@mohabalserafe3795]

How is he alive in this

[@fearlesscheshirecat1411]

@@mohabalserafe3795 I believe it’s an alternative timeline….. But nobody knows for certain. It could very well just be a ploy to keep people guessing because they’re doing multiple installments.

[@Ask4This]

@@mohabalserafe3795 You kill fate in remake and time bullshit happens.

[@KvnStr]

Same dude I just finished crisis core for the first time and came back to watch this. That makes me so much more hyped for the next game.

[@r3licx165]

I've finished crisis core and planning on playing og ff7, does zack surviving means there will be 2 buster swords? or it will be something completely different as if crisis core finale never happened, and characters memories will change because of the remake ending

[@TheNightofWalpurgis666]

Cloud: Come on, Sephiroth. Let's do this. Sephiroth: Defeating you like this, has no meaning. Heal your wounds Cloud, get strong. After that we'll settle the matter. *Flaps his black wing and flies upwards, but before he goes* Thank you, Aerith.

[@absoutezeo2126]

Why doesn't this comment have more likes? This is gold.

[@andrewrogers3067]

Sephiroth, become Vergil

[@bobbyfit]

I want a Death Battle Rematch 😂

[@christopherherr7561]

OUT OF MY WAY AERITH, YOU'RE DEAD WEIGHT

[@GardragonVT]

Sephiroth and Vergil both crave power while Dante and Cloud try to stop them from destroying the world.

[@RogueSeraph]

Barret: "I don't know what kind of freedom we're buying...but I know it'll cost us." For some reason, I feel like these words should be remembered.

[@ericrose290]

I have a strange feeling that going through the portal made it impossible to be reunited with his world's marlene

[@Senbunsakura001]

Well, I mean the Price of Freedom is steep

[@paulodanteneto1645]

@@Senbunsakura001 And THAT's the answer I was looking for!

[@DiegoHernandez-wr1ur]

cloud will sacrifice himself into the reunion to finally end sephiroth by the hand of zack

[@sonyafirefly3879]

They have VERY heavily implied that they are going to kill somebody. The plot armor is gone. We destroyed it with our own hands.

[@Jeffxm003]

I just realized watching your play through that sephiroth baited cloud and co to destroy the whispers so he could have another chance. He knew what happened and knew his only chance at redemption was to change destiny itself

[@danielcook7975]

He did it so he can rule the planet he wants no redemption especially if this is AC Sephiroth which seems more likely

[@FragmentedR_YT]

@@danielcook7975 yeah, he definitely doesn’t want redemption, although if this is Advent Children Sephiroth, I’m super curious as to how the timeline’s actual Sephiroth will be incorporated into the story. Will he be in opposition to his future self, or join him? I think the possibilities for him are pretty vast as the story is now.

[@chief_mourner]

@@FragmentedR_YT I actually never even considered the possibility of two seperate Sephiroths in this current timeline. But that would of course make sense. Now i'm even more excited for the sequel.

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

@@chief_mourner I don't think there are two Sephiroths. Just present Seph with future knowledge like Aerith.

[@chief_mourner]

@@MugdhaMahdiShams I also like that idea. That Aerith and Sephiroth are both dimensional constants.

[@snowrider9018]

1:19:52 Sephiroth kills Aerith and (after Max exits the abilities menu) he promptly says, "oh, the memories..." BRUH.... THIS GAME

[@fl00fydragon]

It's a timey wimey sequel!

[@irishspuds5894]

Omg good catch i love this

[@klifftheone6787]

And Aerith says "this wasnt meant to be" something like that.. or it may be her normal line of being defeated through out the game.

[@ucarouen]

He makes that comment when he does Fire Infusion , alluding to his destruction of Nibelheim. It doesn't mean he's a future Sephiroth

[@koYyn]

@@ucarouen Yea the fire wall . What a badass line. But he also says "That which lies ahead...does not YET exist" . Certainly he is not from the future , but his power kinda implies that he has a lot of influence on the outcome of certain important moments. So he "knows" what is about to happen , but he may underestimates Cloud and the group cause he has a God complex. But yea that line delivery with the K.O. of aerith was unitentionaly kinda missleading , but also kinda badass.

[@Sraye]

Cloud: Let's dance, asshole. Sephiroth: Like the Honeybee inn? Cloud: O_o

[@Killer_Kris7]

Haha

[@subzer007o4]

Cloud dies of shame

[@Icyveins123]

Hahaha

[@hmnanda]

Also Cloud: I don't dance

[@Deemo202]

*Sephiroth throws buildings* Xemnas: I like the cut if this guy's jib.

[@cozenveil]

I too got some Kingdom Hearts vibes from Sephy

[@EpIcGeAr21]

Im glad im not the only one who thought that xD

[@aaronrodriguez4159]

*FF7 Advent Children has left the chat room*

[@Shonicss4]

@@aaronrodriguez4159 Don't worry AC, I still remember you came out before KH2

[@azzamilhamzaidan1502]

of course, its nomura's game

[@shadowofdread7018]

56:28 That’s the laugh of someone who’s extremely hyped and fanboying

[@suhailthehunt1969]

And Simp

[@MeltyZombie]

1:04:57 Sephiroth exploits Cloud's PTSD by conjuring a flame wall behind his back in order to make Cloud lose his Limit Break

[@sudeeptasarkar2861]

Assess: "Unable to read." Max: " I CaN rEad th0"

[@a.p.5342]

The new version of One-Winged Angel is absolutely fucking phenomenal!

[@liynne]

and it6s not even the final one, imagine the version in the endgame of the game

[@darthcerebus]

And the name of it is literally One Winged Ange: Rebirth.

[@salverobosa7135]

@@darthcerebus basically confirming the theory that, Sephiroth in the Remake is from the future. He came back from death, used the Lifestream to travel back time, and then change his course of actions so that his plans will succeed this time in new timeline

[@irishspuds5894]

100% it's got all the difference versions in one amazing new track

[@TinyMeatGaang]

When Red XIII said "Is it our destiny to defy destiny?" I felt that in my fingernails

[@sirjazz1268]

For me it was _"A glimps of tomorrow, if we d'fail here today"_ . . . Confirming to me that FF7 was the "Bad Ending". It's up to us to reach the good/perfect one.

[@joshuas2042]

@@sirjazz1268 on my replay that is the line that got to me. I’m all for a new story… But who idea was it to call one of gaming’s most beloved stories a “failure”. Hella cringe with that one.

[@HArrowsmith]

@@joshuas2042 Because they failed to stop Sephiroth from completing his plan. They literally failed. Sephiroth became functionally immortal by merging with the lifestream, causing everything in Advent Children and theoretically everything happening in Remake. Self contained, the story of FF7 original is fantastic, but looking to the expanded universe, we absolutely didn't win.

[@joshuas2042]

@@HArrowsmith Thanks for this. It makes sense. Faith in Remake restored.

[@sirjazz1268]

@@joshuas2042 well, to a certain degree, I do believe this is why this story is so iconic, and it's end, so marking... It's bittersweet ! As Hunter said above, narratively speaking, we failed in our task, and i'd dare to say : we failed all the way... I mean hell, even using Holy failed to prevent the Apocalypse ! It was only thanks to Gaïa, the lifestream ; only thanks to the World itself who could stop meteor from destroying all lives, that the planet remained in one piece. Looking at our company, each of our heroes faced marking failures during the game that changed them, and for some of them, to... Unspeakable degrees without putting to much spoilers, just in case. Finally, the last shot of Midgar, at the very end of the game... Sure, nature is back took its rights, and the mako syphon is in ruin... But to me, it also sounded like the end of Humanity. We didn't make it. What's good about this end (original FF7) is that you can interprete it in many ways. To me, it felt like, on a universal point of view : _"A Triumph of mere impact, for in the end, nothing last forever..."_ and, to human levels _"No matter the odds, no matter the pain : struggle. Carry on... Fight."_ cue the Epic music baring the name !

[@alistairblaire6001]

Max's reaction to Zack is classic. Dude just sits there with his mouth open lol

[@HoIIowedSlayer]

The sheer, giddy excitement on Max's face when he realizes that he is about to have a fight with Sephiroth really makes this special.

[@BingBangPoe]

I always get mesmerized by the way the handled the music in this game. It gives so many cues. And specially in this final segment the music tells so many stories it is crazy. Like the way they meld Aerith and Sephiroth's themes before they enter the portal, as a way to show Aerith's struggling to protect the party from Sephiroth. It is really intense.

[@BingBangPoe]

@Split Dimension most definitely! It is jawdropping to see how much care was put into every single part of this game. Really shows the love, passion and dedication of the team and respect for the source material, specially given that the core devs all returned. The OG FFVII was known for its themes having a lot of texture and being powerful tools to set tones, and they pumped that to eleven in the Remake, thanks to Hamauzu and Suzuki fantastic job on the arrangement, breathing new life to Uematsu original pieces.

[@PK_Scratch]

I'd love to see a breakdown and in depth analysis or essays on the music of FF7 just as there have been for Dancing Mad. Just to get the juicy in depth details hiding in the music. Who knows, maybe more info from there will provide more Insight, open our eyes and get us even more levels in then the current Lv 4 we're at. Unless I missed something from one of Max's hard mode run streams and we're now at level 5.

[@LeBellmont]

@@PK_Scratch look up Alex Makoula or something. He literally does this for the Airbuster theme

[@elliottblair31]

It isn’t that deep.

[@NukeDaHippies]

Some of it's ok, it's pretty forgettable save a few themes. There's so much shit playing at once, it's hard to focus on anything.

[@Nikolai508]

1:25:44 is just so awesome, when each character gets their own shot with the fantastic music going, its just great.

[@The94Venom]

"Please don't put me back on the freeway!" Game: ok *sends him back to reactor 1*

[@zzskyninjazz1821]

“Do you hear the planet crying out in pain?! I KNOW you can!” “NooooOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!”

[@jorvach9874]

@@zzskyninjazz1821 Ah yes, my favorite song on the soundtrack: *You Can Hear The Cries of the Player*

[@MariusBoss11458]

@@zzskyninjazz1821 One thing which I love about that. In this final Chapter Aerith says that you can hear Cries. So Barret was right about hearing the Planet crying

[@ziroqs8229]

*Sephiroth boss fight starts* Max: _(chuckles)_ I’m in danger

[@CJTranceAddiction]

And what's funny is that in reality for me it was one of (if not the easiest final boss fights) in FF history. I didn't even see a game over screen. For the first time ever in a FF game I beat the final boss in one try.

[@SOYZBEANPRODUCTIONS]

@@CJTranceAddiction was it in hard mode? if so amazing man

[@CJTranceAddiction]

@@SOYZBEANPRODUCTIONS Fuck no! Normal mode, man. I'm currently on Chapter 8 in hard and so far only Roche gave me problems. Died 3 times there lol. I'm enjoying hard mode a lot more and the game is even more superior because of the hard mode. Amazing!

[@SOYZBEANPRODUCTIONS]

@@CJTranceAddiction Noice if anything sephiroth is more challenging i died 10 times before succeeding xD so enjoy

[@hammskie05]

@@CJTranceAddiction Same here, on normal it's kinda easy. The part where he was counting down made me panic though lol.

[@georgeli3171]

Sephiroth's animations during this fight are so damn good. You can see the after images of the sword swings when they multi hit & his parries against Cloud's attacks flow so smoothly.

[@honristorckmin8499]

1:07:47 Ifrit using hellfire as the music kicks up a notch is the coolest non-scripted thing I've ever seen in a game.

[@hammskie05]

Oh you should check out the entirety of Max's Nero vs Virgil fight, literal unscripted perfection.

[@honristorckmin8499]

I will do that

[@maddoxio]

The fact Sephiroth just tanks as usual is even better too.

[@cluprsidt2267]

Sephiroths final lines. *"Seven seconds till the end... Time enough for you perhaps... But what will you do with it?... Let's see."*

[@monstergarou1638]

I got the feeling it has something about aeriths death to do with it Sry im german

[@ChaoticGoodPeasant23]

@@monstergarou1638 It has everything to do with Aerith's death. Go watch her death movie. From Sephiroth dropping down, to impaling her...is exactly 7 seconds.

[@shaddo1798]

Lol at Max’s reaction when he lost fighting Bahamut only to be brought back to the highway. I had the same reaction. I was so mad I put it down for two days lol.

[@tlozmeowcatz7991]

That was me with the og game. It's funny they kept the whole no checkpoint situation between the final boss stages.

[@mioda3109]

Just finally finished it a few days ago, i felt the exact way when it happened to me

[@tseshaun18]

Dang, I just finished the game 2 days ago and am glad I dodged a bullet there. Managed to finish the whole boss sequence without dying but I'd be shocked too cuz I was up until 3am just to finish that fight lol.

[@Santana_Art]

Finally something bad didn’t happen to me

[@IamJerf]

Literally what happened to me. I died the first time and then it took me back to the highway. I got so mad that I spend an hour fighting just to back to the beginning I just said "that's it I'm going to bed". The next day I beat it and then beat Sephiroth (I was so afraid I'd lose against Sephiroth the first time but I managed to beat him without dying)

[@dracokaleb1239]

Barret; "Everything looks normal to me." _Giant death tornado starts forming in the sky_ Me; Yep. Perfectly normal.

[@VictorColli]

Now that ain't right

[@PepeMetallero]

"Perfect normal phenomenon" Barrett is Russian confirmed!?

[@zackperkins6107]

Omg a soul tornado is happen...wait a minute that ain't no different from any other day

[@SuperLlama42]

It would've been funny if they walked through the portal and just got spat back out of the portal and didn't go anywhere because Sephiroth was just trolling everyone.

[@No1AldamonFanGirl]

Just another Tuesday, that's all.

[@ForrestCRedd]

Can we take a moment to acknowledge the fact that video game graphics have reached a point where the in game renders look better than those in a cutscene? And that's saying something considering we're talking about Square Enix.

[@sonickles_]

For me it’s how we probably wouldn’t have noticed the difference if it wasn’t for the pre rendered cutscene always having a buster sword ahahaha

[@SebasTian58323]

This is what Sephiroth should be, terrifying, strong, charismatic with a bit of that insanity present. He's my favorite villain in FF and I'm excited to see what Square is going to do, the only issue I'm actually worried about is how they're going to top a fight like this

[@Paolo10692]

He reminds me of Kefka and Vayne Sollidor fused into one intellectual madman

[@yunagfs]

helps that he's hot

[@SebasTian58323]

@@yunagfs certainly

[@kittybaby6242]

@@SebasTian58323 and now he's in Ultimate just to give Cloud PTSD for the 10th time in his life

[@jmason0622]

I predict, even if the sequels go 1 or 2 games, the last Sephiroth fight will be a dick-twistingly hard Safer Sephiroth. If they went this hard with plain one-winged angel Sephiroth, imagine how they'd go with Safer Sephiroth.

[@anonymousxaela761]

Sephiroth - Fire Infused Maximillan - "Let's summon Ifrit!"

[@penderson-dr8nf]

😂😂 Max was overwhelmed by the hype hahaha

[@maskedfreak5664]

Big brain strategy

[@adolforodriguez7185]

..... WHY!!!

[@a.p.5342]

1:35:36 Max’s reaction always makes me wanna cry. It brings me joy seeing him so happy and you can tell how much it means to him.

[@funkmastafog]

The goddamn music does it every time

[@a.p.5342]

funkmastafog Agreed! It sounds so heroic and hopeful especially while seeing the gang together.

[@devinduval8646]

I felt the same way!

[@tko_n1170]

i love his reaction. I hate to say but many haters think his reaction is pathetic because he loves ff7 remake

[@dreamer6737]

I felt the same way there, the epicness

[@SktMew]

That line where Aerith says ''Freedom, boundless, terrifying Freedom.... Like a never ending Sky'' she seems to be talking about the open world at first, the world without the plate above... but holy shit, she knows that once the Plot ghosts die there won't be anymore fate nor watches to rely on. what I mean by this is that we're shown several times throughout the game that these things kept the party on-track and alive (like saving aerith from falling down at the church, or literally resurrecting Barret and the most obvious for me: saving Tifa, Aerith, Barret and Red from crashing in to the chopper that cloud takes down on the highway) she knows that beyond that wall, there's no guarantee the party will be safe. and for all we know, the original script of the game where everyone dies might now be a reality

[@kadosho02]

I'm wondering if those Arbiters were their future selves. The one's that return, but from a darker fate. XV went berserk when Noctis's form was the Bahamut at the end... Anything is possible in VII now Almost as if VIIR crossed over into DMC territory, and I like it Hmm then again those three from Advent Children... The trio, that search for their mother & reunion. That could possibly be their demonic form

[@JT-ll9sg]

@@kadosho02 it is confirmed that they were the advent children

[@lordtullus9942]

IT's just all bullshit writing to seem better for cash grabs. FF 7 remake is crap

[@JT-ll9sg]

@@lordtullus9942 yet here u are reading all the comments on a 7 month old video

[@michaelrobosa146]

@@lordtullus9942 it's not crap. you just don't understand how the story on this one works. this may be a remake, but it's not just an ordinary remake. it's called FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE because they are rewriting history. 😊 those arbiters of fate (which is confirmed already as the advent children) are proof that this game and the og is not the same. you could call it as "sequel".

[@stephenvanbellinghen933]

Not only did you make this battle look the most interesting with your struggling, but you kept clouds buster sword, which is a must for preserving the games aesthetic

[@gregsochacki7290]

To be fair clouds buster sword is still very viable late game

[@dankerbell]

buster is necessary

[@Sparrow-Music]

I'm so glad Max enjoyed this as much as he did. As an OG FF7 person myself, I'm EXTREMELY happy with everything that is going on, and am EXTREMELY excited to see where things go. It's no longer "I know what's going to happen and I can see it in high-def!! :D", I'm back in the childlike wonder of not knowing what's happening next in FF7.

[@renehoyvik]

I'm really happy with the "Remake" Part 1, nervous because there are so many ways it can be handled poorly, but genuenly excited for the continuation.

[@daesong1378]

I see alot of people acting like the original is sacred, and bashing the remake for not being an Actual remake.But people often remember things from their past, especially their childhood for being greater than it actually was. I love the original game as well, but it had plenty of flaws. The other thing people do is portrait SE as if they're doing everything possible JUST for MONEY, as if they didn't create the original game because they wanted to make money.

[@MrJaces]

I love the defy destiny bit. It totally makes sense now, they can take the story where they like without backlash because that whole fight just changed the narrative completely! Its brilliant when you think about it. Obviously they'll keep the world the same but certain events will change or be entirely new which gives the remake a breath of fresh air instead of following steb by step from the OG.

[@IchigoLazer]

@@daesong1378 literally 100% the original game yesterday. Very strong thematically and has aged very well... besides all the low res pre rendered backgrounds and minigames. Personally, while I enjoyed this remake a fair bit, all the changes make it deviate from the core themes of loss that FF7 provided. I'm not going to hate on the ending... yet. I'll wait to see where it leads to before I pass judgement on it.

[@ZinaonZin]

Finished the game a day ago. Fucking incredible ending. I have no words for it. Can't wait for part 2 because know my mind is on fire. 3 timelines, unkown story to come. I don't regret spending money for deluxe edition of the remake. Totally worth it. Also, who cried everytime Zack was on screen?

[@KinglyRed]

*"YOU FOOLS! YOU'VE MESSED WITH THE NATURAL ORRRRRRDERRRRRR!!!!"*

[@dravguitao7265]

Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy

[@lordmarvin7177]

"Pickle teeth call out"

[@tommylee2288]

My words exactly we aren't supposed to use this much of "BLOCK" command in Final Fantasy game, it is not natural!!!. I think I used more "Block" command in this game than all my FF games combined...

[@Noplayster13]

Snake, you can’t do that! You’ll cause a time paradox!

[@AgentMaroon78]

KinglyRed Barret: Reality is falling apart!!! Cloud: What’s going to happen to us?! Barret: I don’t know, but I’m going to hold you tight and never let go! Cloud: I love you, Barret. Wedge: What about me, yo?! Barret: Eh, you’ll be fine.

[@ClippyChop]

Sephiroth is the kind of boss that is exactly the reason we all save our big items til the end of the game

[@Rageouz]

"UNABLE TO READ?!" "BUT I CAN READ THOUGH" One of my favorite moments

[@lemao2222]

Max: 'Sephiroth became Vergil now' Sephiroth: *Uses Scintilla which is dead ass Judgement Cut followed by Rapid Slash*

[@aidanklobuchar1798]

Basically his opening from his KH2 fight.

[@momtazfaysal4989]

Idk about that

[@DisappointedBuddha]

Can't wait for Red XIII to have Phantom's Moveset after the gameplay director got poached from DMC5

[@vornamenachname7600]

the boss fights are so insane cinematic, loved every second.

[@JohnnyWad309]

1:31:20 This was the moment where I got emotional. I was like, "wait.. what does this mean? WAIT! What does this mean!?" Had to wait 24 hours for my brothers to finish the game before I could talk about it with someone because I didn't want to spoil it for them. (The three of us brothers all live together.) When I heard my youngest brother playing the next night and I heard the music I just quietly went into his room, sat down, packed up a fat bowl, and waited for that moment again just to start up the convo.

[@deniellechapman6911]

I can't wait to see how they animate Vincent and Yuffie.

[@JT-ll9sg]

Vincent is going to be fucking dope!!!

[@maddoxio]

@@JT-ll9sg Dude if Sephiroth's hair physics have anything to say about it, Vincent's cloak is going to look beautiful.

[@jakstorm3180]

Cid.. " Shera where's my GODDAMN TEA" I love CID!

[@inatheend9539]

me too. But first 60fps.

[@momtazfaysal4989]

Only vincent

[@RandomBlackGamer]

Anyone else get a flashback moment of Jin's ending from Tekken 5 when Rufus sat in the Shinra President chair? 😁

[@tdlkorbt666]

quiet

[@RikkuChaser]

YES

[@JacOfAllTrades.]

Yes

[@johnferreras6224]

Yes

[@its_Criminal1]

Yep

[@cyberbeta4247]

Almost 4 years later, and Max's Raw feelings were just as impactful as they were then, for all of us watching Live during the Covid Shutdown. Those Late Nights watching the Stream 'til near Dawn as we had literally nothing else to do... And here we are. 1 Week until Rebirth and Max just finished revisiting Remake & Intergrade in a Blind run to prep for the Rebirth on 2/29. All I have to say is, it's time for the Unknown Journey to Continue, no matter where it leads.

[@Ztarman3]

56:15 Final Battle of Width vs Length

[@IAmFooly]

Sephiroth never looks like he’s ever trying 😭😂

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Fooly yup nothing phases him that smug attitude and confidence 😂 I love it

[@Edison720]

Sephy aint no try-hard xD

[@DrCoomer_1]

That's because he isn't & there's plot reason behind it

[@Anon_jonn]

Dr Coomer go on.....

[@DrCoomer_1]

@@Anon_jonn the whole "7 seconds" fight showed he literally wasn't trying to win fairly clearly

[@AzureCoda]

56:05 There's something incredible about watching his face go from "cool cutscene" to "wait, we're fighting him NOW?"

[@justpazzingby13]

I just noticed it, but Cloud only really reacts to the visions of Aerith's death during the Whisper fight.

[@jandeiification]

Can you imagine.. Aerith's feelings knowing the fate of her love, that moment only? it was only this time that she confirms the fate of ZACK.

[@chihuli]

I’m so excited for the next part! Highly anticipating a Zack/Aerith reunion! The devs took the time to focus on the picture of Stamp during Zack’s Last Stand, so I can’t help but see it as foreshadowing that in one of the end scenes, there was a little girl with a ponytail who was reuniting with her dog. She’s fighting destiny to be with Zack aaaaaaaaaa 😭😭😭

[@nepspartan-7597]

@@chihuli there is actually the version of Stamp's packaging in that scene, and a different Stamp somewhere else in Remake, though I don't remember when

[@ShadowHunter31]

@@chihuli She's not fighting Destiny... Sephirot is.

[@pievancl5457]

@@chihuli zack lives in a different timeline.. that was the point of showing the chip wrapper with an alternate version of Stamp on it (alternate universe). Perhaps because they defied destiny, zack now lives in the original timeline of the OG FF7. Wonder where they’re going with this

[@tko_n1170]

I don't really think Aerith loves Zack anymore. Aerith loves Cloud more than Zack. (Referencing from the Final Fantasy 7 book The Maiden of the Planet)

[@armchairmaster]

28:10 I know someone else in the comments pointed this out, but Cloud's Spin going in sync with Barret's Smackdown is the type of hype shit you'd see as a super in a fighting game.

[@emilholst9789]

1:19:49 Sephiroth - "Oh the memories" after just octoslashing Aerith

[@leoryzap]

Really is a time traveller

[@Jose-se9pu]

Aerith: "oh shit, here we go again"

[@TheChadarad]

Poor girl just can’t catch a break lol 😆

[@AnthonyWilliams-xx1iw]

When i played this part he knocked my aerith out with Hell's Gate; was half tempted to just leave her gone, he clearly saw the original

[@leonedevaudier76]

I've got this stabbing feeling it felt familiar

[@spaceghost1670]

“I can’t believe this is a video game” I said the same thing

[@3BigChins]

Cloud made 14 strikes at Sephiroth. Sephiroth then says “not yet.” Yeah, I think he remembers the last time Cloud was able to get that 15th slash in.

[@arronbruce6298]

That Infinity's End + Smackdown combo was actually pretty hype, ngl. 28:05

[@TheSlammurai]

I live for the moments when Abilities go off simultaneously.

[@masterkl16]

Holy fuck I never noticed Cloud doing the spinny dip in the background lol. No wonder it caused so much damage.

[@hanzogang798]

It would’ve been more hyped if cloud would’ve skipped the wind up animation and just did the last part of infinity’s end since he was mid air it would’ve been siiiick

[@worawatsr9803]

Infinity’s end deals 5 times more damage than Cloud’s limit break. Lol

[@NeoDMC]

@@hanzogang798 I hope in the sequel (if they keep the battle system....which they fucking should) they make Refocus more appealing by giving special interactions between Abilities/Spells that can only be done with 3 ATB bars. A cool interaction would be like if you use Braver before Infinity's End, then Infinity's End comes out immediately. Or for Barret, using Maximum Fury before Point Blank launches the explosive spike like a projectile.

[@galaxy_kitten95]

Max’s reaction to Zack’s appearance was EVERYTHING I needed.

[@Lakross101]

That big ( O o O )

[@Aggrofool]

You should see CohhCarnage, he played all the related FFs

[@hulktopf5031]

Did they actually do what I think they did?! I'm so confused in a good way, I can't process that

[@JoJo-is6bv]

what timestamp did zack appeared

[@jasonofadown]

about 3:35 is when max's face lights up

[@chestercastaneda4920]

1:19:46 Okay, PTSD right there.

[@Cliffem82]

There were moments when even Max got speechless... and that’s what this game (or more than just a game) means for many people. Silence with full of emotion doesn’t need to be explained. It just comes through.

[@GXtera]

Max was still at level 1 here

[@jeremesmith9266]

gameplayx hadn’t broken down the doors of level 2,3, or 4 yet :)

[@flip8966]

gameplayx hahah you must of saw the other review from other KZbinrs haha

[@sentinel5495]

Can someone tell me pls! What is lv 2,3,4?

[@KinglyRed]

He resides in the Lifestream now

[@jacobsnyder7771]

@@sentinel5495 how crazy the theories will get lvl 1 not crazy lvl 4 what the hell

[@mrsocko316]

The entire Sephiroth fight, I kept screaming for Max to stop switching to Aerith so much, she is CLEARLY weak to giant 6 foot katanas.

[@deewdrops]

Seven. Seven-foot katana. Unless you meant Sephiroth as a metaphor for a deadly Japanese sword, in which case I agree with you.

[@aaronlefebre5060]

Sephiroth used Hell's Gate! It's super effective! Aerith fainted...

[@mrsocko316]

@@deewdrops ur right, 7 feet. I was thinking of my replica masamune I have.

[@ifrit1937]

For me the whole "what the hell are you doing" moment was basically the whole thing with him not using magnify materia with Cure since that allows you to cure the whole party at once...also, this was the only video i watched in the vIIR run of his so maybe i'm wrong, he didn't seem to play long enough to get the level up a majority of his materia...at the very least getting Curaga (plus the magnify materia) would've made this entire last dungeon/boss fights much easier. But ya his constant switching to other characters just to use a spell then go back to Cloud also makes me question if he ever found out you can use ally abilities without switching by pressing R2 or L2...also counterstance works so much better using it via the shortcut rather than menu imo.

[@tsbs7s]

Japan uses metric system...Sephiroth's katana is 127cm

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

The moment Sephiroth's theme starts you can see Max get hype immediatly. GODS this playthrough is so fucking wholesome.

[@ndrcalrryx2094]

The part where Zack walked past Cloud and Aerith in that scene was so beautiful. Edit: Eh, some people are so salty about this comment. If you don't like Zack being alive and the "remake" of FF7 then go tell Nomura or the ones behind the storytelling. Maybe they will listen to your concerns. Always going to be people complaining -_- Bet cha the people who are salty about it are the ones who will still play the game or watch the cut scenes then complain more, hah.

[@mrnasty6682]

I'm a huge fan of ff7, i played it at launch on ps1, and that scene spoke me nothing but a big disappointment for what this remake turned to be in the end. This ending, besides that change the original plot that i beloved so much, seems to me like a kh ending. Opinions, after all.

[@RainingFlow19]

I hope they dont ponder to CC fans. Zack has to die for a reason.

[@santerisalmivuori3872]

This ending, this game absolutely destroyed everything the original story stood for and what made it so good. There’s no feeling of impending doom, no atmosphere, nobody dies, there’s just no weight to anything. It’s just cookie-cutter Disney time travel bullcrap again. This game had it moments, it looks great but that’s all it has sadly. It feels so fake and forced mostly. I know they likely wanted to shake things up a bit, but for them to completely undermine and destroy every twist and turn what made the original so engaging is just sad...

[@veiregor]

@@santerisalmivuori3872 let's wait till the other parts are out

[@santerisalmivuori3872]

@@veiregor You're right. I just had a really strong reaction to this since I adore the original. But yeah, you're right. No point in thinking about this game as FF7 anymore. It's a completely new game and experience.

[@tommybayer2351]

59:26 That slow-mo was awesome

[@recklesflam1ngo968]

Was like straight out of some anime/movie scene

[@genos684]

i played it many times cozi it's so fucking awesome

[@its_Criminal1]

Anime gintama vibes right there

[@GruppeSechs]

Wow, it just occurred to me that Zack really is alive in that timeline. I feel like the rain is an indication that he's dragging Cloud to Midgar at the moment he died in Crisis Core, because the rain started falling when he was dying, and I doubt it's a coincidence that they show him walking with Cloud toward the city when it's raining this time around. Might be subtle confirmation.

[@sonyafirefly3879]

I'm pretty dang sure that he's alive too.

[@MageBlinkan]

It has a different timeline, Aerith references earlier in the game that she remembers eating the whispers tell her when Zack died. It's almost like 2 timelines are in play.

[@stephensporman8206]

@@MageBlinkan or it's just a flashback to show Zack and Cloud made it to Midgar and the party is actually in the timeline where Zack survived. My theory is that the party travelled through the portal on the highway and it took them to the alternate timeline where Zack lived.

[@meridianline4022]

It is an alternate universe...easiest way to verfiy that is the dog on the chip bag that floats by....its a different dog than the remake universe...no need to go into major details...it all boils down to a chip bag

[@darthcerebus]

It's what the Watchers were doing. They were trying to keep everything on track and because of everything going on between the main party and Sephiroth, fate and destiny were coming apart because of what Sephy was trying to do. And because of that, time was warped, and the 2 timelines became 1. Zack survived to bring Cloud to Midgar, and the remake's story still happened. The Watcher barrier being destroyed is what triggered the timelines becoming one, and Zack is now alive in 7. The question is, did Sephiroth do this on purpose to show Could that destiny is better off defied so he can get everyone to inadvertently help him defy his fate of always being stopped by Cloud so he can finally win?

[@loditech5181]

For 23 years it still pains me that the girls dog went missing on the og ff7, really love the new story line can't wait for your ff7 rm 2nd part streams!

[@Hc2p3n4t4rp]

So, with the Ultimania out something came from it that leaved me with even more questions than before In FF7R, there are 4 Sephiroths, but even more than that, there is 1 detail that was lost in translation since there is no equivalent in english When someone refers to themselves they use "Ore" or "Watashi", the diference being the situation they are used, "Ore" is a more informal tone to use with more familiar people, "Watashi" is more formal but also more distant way of speaking Here is the thing, in Original FF7, before the Nibelheim Episode Sephiroth use "Ore" when refering to himself, after he would use "Watashi", and that remained a constant through all the compilation, and in FF7R is the same, all the Sephiroths use the "Watashi" when talking, all of them but 1, the Sephiroth at the Edge of Creation that talks to Cloud uses the "Ore" form of speach, also if you compare the way he speaks in that scene, it is criptic yes, but he is not being the usual mad man taunting of even the scene just before, he is being very calm about it, even when Cloud pointed his blade at him, that simle he gave wasnt the Advent Children like smile, at least it didnt felt like that to me, but the one of Crisis Core when he was against Genesis and Angeal

[@VAB419]

I've seen that info being passed around online, so I think a lot of English players are aware of it now, at least the ones who are active in following the news about this game. But even if you had no idea about that, the fact that Sephiroth is acting more sane/calm in this scene and doing something as wild as asking to team up with Cloud for something, at least to me, that indicates something was different about him here. When I played the game and saw this scene, I thought he was either giving Cloud a chance to be on his side and live through his Meteor plan basically, one chance before Sephiroth just decided he would have to kill or eliminate him. I guess he certainly could have just been 100% fucking with Cloud too. We're not gonna know until Part 2 comes out!

[@infinitemartialist]

Without knowing about the translations until reading this, I thought something similar based on how he reacted to Clouds rejection. It's the only time he almost stopped smiling. Like he expected it but was also disappointed nonetheless. Not in an angry, mad way, but in a solemn way as if he knows something and actually sought real help for everyone's benefit but wasnt being heard or believed. And I could be entirely wrong but it just looked to me that something more was going on here. That this Sephiroth wasn't acting and working towards what we're used to. Even in how he responded to Aerith when she said he was wrong, he said "those that look with clouded eyes see nothing but shadows." One could interpret that as to say there might be something even Aerith isn't seeing because she, along with everyone else, is too used to just seeing him as pure evil. So yeah. Something else seems to be going on here other than just a repeat of Sephiroth planet destruction motivations

[@dragon1353]

Interesting, new to the ff7 time line so I'm a little confused. Just finished ff7r and it was amazing. I did notice Sephiroths tone change at the end compared to when I was fighting him before. Good to know.

[@ggnorekthx]

@@infinitemartialist I thought this too. After this scene part of me was left thinking, maybe the far future Seph is actually a good guy now, or at least trying to undo the damage he caused. I still think his ultimate motivations will turn out to be bad but maybe not so black and white this time. I'm relatively certain he is going to lead Cloud to change the events at the Forgotten City.

[@aidanklobuchar1798]

@@ggnorekthx Maybe not good but at least more balanced. I mean, it's stated in Advent Children he only stayed alive by focusing on his Cloud hate-boner, hence how obsessed he is in that movie. But hey, fun fact. In a sense, the first person to come into contact with the Whispers wasn't Aerith, but Lucretia, Sephiroth's mom. After Sephy was taken from her by Hojo, you'd think she'd try to get him back, what with her own connections to Shinra and a metric ton of Jenova juice powering her up (enough so that it literally won't let her die in FF7). But she doesn't because she is driven insane by visions of Sephiroth's future actions. That's right, visions of the future. Just like Aerith in remake. Maybe Sephy just wanted revenge for his true mother. He always was a mommy's boy.

[@alessandrobozzi7085]

10:57 Cloud: "Let's go." Me: "Wait, wasn't it..." Max: "Let's mosey." Me: "The guy gets me!"

[@Neo-Midgar]

It was just as awesome watching this live on Twitch as playing it my first time myself. Thanks for taking us along for the ride, Max.

[@siv6292]

I can feel the emotion running while you playing this game, man that's the same feeling I felt, especially seeing this end played out very well. As a gamer who played this game way back in 97, back when I was just in high school this is the exact feeling I felt while playing this, a lot of good old memories comes back and the journey it takes to be playing this game at this very moment is mind-blowing and give me the chills. Thanks, pal!

[@wendymikkil2043]

Max cocked his mic like a gun when one winged angel started playing 😂

[@ibrokemykeyboard]

Max: Sephiroth is Vergil now?! Me: No, Max. Vergil is Sephiroth.

[@GrahamChapman]

Fun fact: Toshiyuki Morikawa is the Japanese voice actor of both Sephiroth and Dante.

[@ihernandez4234]

@@GrahamChapman Wow...can't unsee that now.

[@faarkive1284]

@@GrahamChapman whatttt

[@galaxy_kitten95]

GrahamChapman He’s also Leon Kennedy. 🙃 EDIT: I just found out that he’s also Ryu in Street Fighter. Such solid badass characters!

[@filipecordeiro2867]

@@galaxy_kitten95 he gets all the badass characters them, nice

[@pabloj.reyespacheco7655]

1:19:44 Sephiroth-“No more games” Aerith-“ok”

[@squidsona8509]

*fucking dies*

[@hanzogang798]

Pablo J. Reyes Pacheco YO SHE GOT BODIED LMAO

[@TheSlammurai]

@@squidsona8509 AGAIN

[@Dracobyte]

Ok FFoomer.

[@No1AldamonFanGirl]

I died. I literally had tears streaming down my cheeks as I was slaughtered by laughter

[@user-dsfhsdjf-32463]

Just discovered this streamer and his equal love for Final Fantasy VII as me. Stumbled upon this and had to give it a watch. When Max lost at Whisper Bahamut I felt for him cause I did too, and discovered you have 1 shot through it all. I feel like I'm seeing it for the first time again

[@crimsonshadow7459]

"I need a cigarette" lmaoooooo best reaction hands down

[@f25mart]

I really enjoy Max's reaction to the music swelling to his oft-mentioned "Lord of the Rings" moment at 1:35:26. You can tell the realization that the game did these characters and this moment justice hits him all at once at this moment lol

[@fraenznoa5508]

You have my bow

[@mathewstafford7943]

Seriously man. That scene is the spirit of FF7 going forward and it got to me too. The developers did such an amazing job!

[@tommyrachmanto13]

sephiroth :cloud,lend me you strenght cloud : but it'll cost you,a lot sephiroth : a lot huh? one date ought to do it cloud : wait.. *ff 7 remake happy ending*

[@monkeydjimmy5169]

I wish for a *Happy Ending* Not like that though lol 😂 But i do wish for one

[@AB-re8yg]

Sephiroth actually looked a little sad after Cloud told him no. He may be evil, but he has emotions.

[@LordFarquaad967]

Lol

[@avsambart]

The TIMING of Cloud saying to Sephiroth 'lets go asshole' sent me 🤣

[@yannispirou101]

The whole ending sequence is one of the most epic, glorious sequences I've ever seen... insane...

[@DeadAtrocity]

Mega flare was the dead give away that it's bahamut? I thought the dead give away is that it's literally named whisper bahamut lol

[@Xzilerating]

RIGHT?!

[@bungifish2227]

When you play this game often times you don't read the name because you're so focused on fighting plus the text is small lol. I only knew because I assessed him when I played it

[@jordannewthomas3293]

I knew it was bahamut pretty much immediately I mean it looks like him just with a weird colour scheme.

[@vocalcalibration8033]

I didn't really have time to think about his name because I was getting my ass beat.

[@DeadAtrocity]

@Zero Calamity huh?