The Enigmatic Death of the Isdal Woman

[@Skulexander]

smells of garlic. strange bruise on neck. burned herself alive. clearly she was a vampire hunter who got bitten and took care of herself before she turned

[@pinkablink9488]

boom mystery solved let’s go home

[@aiysha8947]

Buffy the vampire slayer?

[@cjknight1876]

@@aiysha8947 haha I was about to say is this the final episode of Buffy the I missed?

[@annabelswitzer1122]

Alexander Taylor Why does this make so much sense ?!

[@thefam1826]

dude u watch supernatural i can tell hahaha

[@alexanderblohme5044]

Garlic was not common in Norway back then, that’s why

[@AG-js7nt]

Exactly! It wasn't until later in the 70's that you could buy garlic at the supermarket. Before that you had to get it at the farmacy

[@IreneQuintavalle]

The garlic part rang a bell, especially the fact that her teeth smelled. There is a chemical compound that smell like garlic. It is lethal when combined with acid in the stomach (phosphine), it is used to kill rodents. I like to think that maybe she had a false tooth made of calcium phosphide encapsulated. That could explain why her teeth vanished from the lab to be found decades later. Or maybe not.

[@AB-vu1yl]

@@AG-js7nt WHAT??

[@goddessoflesbians1153]

@@AB-vu1yl I think they meant the local farm

[@slithra227]

@@goddessoflesbians1153 no, garlic used to be used for heart ailments and the like. Pharmacy/apothecaries used to be a thing in Europe.

[@Hashermoney]

Honestly Shane would be such a fun dad. He’s literally a walking dad joke

[@starfishndcoffee]

he would be such an awesome dad it’s not even funny

[@BreakingWhite]

i hate you

[@SamThaMan528]

Bro me and Shane have the same opinions

[@legneil]

Looking for a husband ?

[@CanteLizzie]

I think it's nice that they gave her a funeral in the religion she was most likely to have. Also that they made her a really sturdy coffin so that if she is ever claimed her family can move her somewhere more fitting. Wouldn't expect such a level of respect from some random police district.

[@tooth_picc3032]

I mean it’s in norway

[@microwavedcheetos]

You know what would be crazy, if in the future they want to move her grave and discover that its an empty casket

[@CyberiaCafe]

@Grayson Huggins To be fair he wasn’t really famous at the time of his death

[@TheRokkiephantomlove]

DUDE 1970's norway we didn't have garlic we had never smelled garlic thats why it took him years to find out what sge smelled like

[@sicariusflamus3033]

thats what i was thinking, theyre seeing it through american eyes where itslian and greek food is everywhere so garlic is everywhere

[@IllIIIllIIIllII]

This comment is the VIP. Never occurred to me that garlic wasnt in Norway at the time.

[@sicariusflamus3033]

@Jake Stout norway is very far from anywhere that garlic grows in

[@mgm6607]

@@sicariusflamus3033 : the Greeks and the Italianas don't eat garlic ,may be in Mejico yes

[@steph8030593]

I’d like to also add that Arsine smells mildly of garlic and is flammable

[@SilkyLew]

She is an excellent spy. She's still invisible, even while dead.

[@BcBTheta]

Squidward but got killed cause one person wasn’t fooled

[@seiyuokamihimura5082]

You mean a terrible spy. She left traces.

[@jameswilliamcatanes4522]

true

[@ds0786]

@@seiyuokamihimura5082 You missed the point! Nobody has been able to ID her to this day. It's a suicide the other theories don't make sense.

[@tenten9237]

@@seiyuokamihimura5082 who is she then?

[@caraj7755]

the silhouette of the woman in death valley is scaring me

[@aubreymartinez4936]

cara j it reminds me of the movie Rattlesnake on Netflix

[@TertuNdokosho]

Wait, what? What silhouette?

[@arzsxuu]

@@TertuNdokosho the one in 1:04

[@TertuNdokosho]

@@arzsxuu I can't see it. Or maybe I don't understand what you mean.

[@arzsxuu]

@@TertuNdokosho you??? can't see it???? it's right there broski... also it isn't necessary 'scary' imo it's just unsettling, cause, girl literally burned herself (or someone else did whatever)

[@slender_04f14]

Unbelievable. The fact that investigators were able to determine her place of birth/hometown through dental records, her lineage through DNA samples, and her aliases by cross-referencing her handwriting is fantastic. A testament to modern investigative procedures.

[@shrezzy0940]

Where?

[@merlinsgirl9311]

@@shrezzy0940 the isotope test pinpointed her likely childhood to a small region of the France/Germany border. The DNA was a little more vague saying European or North American ancestry though the boys mix up the two tests not even 2 minutes later in the video and say the isotope test said Germany or North America. So not as precise as Slender made it seem.

[@amayzinrayzin8783]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/onKQZoKAbb6dbck new video covering the women definitely worth the watch

[@julianratering8500]

@@merlinsgirl9311 But are most Americans not of European descent.....

[@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts]

@@julianratering8500 wait what aren’t most Caucasian North Americans OF European decent? 🤨

[@JPBrady]

that family hike must have sucked.

[@sinphus]

J.P. Brady was a kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKqvhWCDg9CmsMU

[@rachaela4281]

J.P. Brady 😂

[@kemistree.]

Or RULED!

[@Moo-2310]

As someone who hikes a lot and writes a lot of books about cases like these, it'd be super cool and scary at the same time. I'd probably call police, and write notes about at what time I found the body, and the scene before me while I wait for them.

[@danielx555]

"How is my summer? Dad dragged us all down to Death Valley and screamed at us as we stomped around, and then we found a dead body. Other than that, it was great."

[@lilislilypad5563]

"Are you sure it's a good idea to bring the kids to Death Valley?" "What's the worst that can happen? We find a body?"

[@CRUSH40RULES]

"And Logan Paul happens to be there too?" ...had to.

[@lilislilypad5563]

@@CRUSH40RULES I'm wheezing.

[@icouldbechris6173]

Im your 1k like :)

[@lilislilypad5563]

@@icouldbechris6173 seriously? Thanks a bunch.

[@SNOT_JUST_DROP]

Your addiction is odd ;)

[@olliekim1730]

imagine being her ghost and she sees all this unravel and be like "huh, i guess i did kinda act like a spy"

[@Poly_Bunny_A.M]

Assuming she’s not a spy....

[@Mystery_channel666]

@@Poly_Bunny_A.M isdal woman the vampire hunter ? due to her garlic in her possesion

[@romaguppers]

I LITERALLY IMAGINE THIS EVERYTIME I WATCH ONE OF BUZZFEED UNSOLVED’S VIDEOS

[@maximuffin6395]

"I just like shorthand and garlic"

[@Ashethetics]

Ghost goals

[@Olivia-ek9ib]

I don't know why, but them finding a tube of eczema cream in the suitcase with all the wigs and spy stuff genuinely made me sad. Spies are usually seen as fictional, faceless characters from noir films, and this is a reminder that she was a real person dealing with simple, human issues like eczema, who most likely died a terrifying, possibly painful death and was never identified.

[@hkazu63]

I mean, with the sheer amount of pills in her system, she likely didn’t suffer for long, if at all. These pills take 20 minutes to a half hour to put you down, but the numbing effects can come in very fast, and I doubt that she took all those pills and then was immediately on fire. With almost 70 pills, she likely took them a few at a time, so the effects would’ve already been setting in before she even finished the pills.

[@Ironslag]

Unless that evidence was planted.

[@jellybeanboy]

When they mentioned it, I was like "Oh. Just like me." It's crazy when seemingly fictional people can relate to you like that

[@casserole1877]

Shoe man year later: *jumps up from sleep* It wAs GarLiC

[@mathiasschuller6639]

The thing is, that garlic wasn't available in norway in the 70s, so she had to bring it from abroad (possibly france). The guy just remembered the smell, when he got to know to garlic a couple of years later

[@Mybunbuns112]

WHAT TEAM?!

[@lillian8067]

@@Mybunbuns112 ...wildcats?

[@gb-mw1bi]

do you think one day he goes to an italian restaurant and is suddenly like "shit thAT sMELL"

[@_veronica_r]

One time my grandma forgot something she needed to add to the grocery list, went to take a nap, and then woke up, and yelled.... B A C O N!! Yeah.. that actually happened XDD

[@disneyfanatics1841]

let's take a moment to appreciate the person writing the subtitles when they're talking, they try to write every single little stutter and weird thing the boys say and it's hilarious

[@cresdc8481]

*claps for them*

[@0san0sh]

I’m pretty sure Ryan himself edits the videos.

[@ლ.ლ-ნ7ძ]

rsnnlccns yes he does. So YAY for Ryan!

[@disneyfanatics1841]

i see!! He’s such a dedicated nerd i love it

[@chickenpermission8373]

Ryan used to edit, but now there’s a whole team of people working on this unsolved series.

[@zozoguh]

20 years from now: “Welcome to another episode of *Finally Solved* !” All the episodes become solved and their children are the only people keeping Buzzfeed alive.

[@fe.rya.lazeem]

i'd cry

[@bravocrimson12]

id watch :(

[@kyleemoski7704]

That’d be so wholesome omg

[@patriciavansickle9441]

She knows she's compromised, takes the pills, someone catches up to her before they work, boom.

[@muchosconfuzzlement8258]

50-70 pills is a lot to choke down in a short amount of time.

[@factsbykidd4765]

@@muchosconfuzzlement8258 fr lol, how does someone even take 50 pills, I take 6 at once sometimes (nutrient pills) and it takes a lot of effort to swallow 6 pills.

[@DanGamingFan2406]

@Patricia VanSickle That's what I think too.

[@toogaytolift9176]

I mean if I knew I was about to be brutally murdered I'd gobble those pills like tic tacs

[@denied7616]

@@factsbykidd4765 lmao you just grab a handful and swallow, I don't think you need more than 5 mins for that

[@josephlavallee6196]

Its possible she burned herself to be rid of the most identifiable feature: her face The sleeping pills may have just been a way to numb the pain, or to aid in the ending of her own life

[@Moo-2310]

In this video there is no mention of remains of a bonfire, and the petrol used was far away. If she jumped onto a fire, there'd be remains of a fire underneath her body, and the petrol would be nearby.

[@shardofkingdoms9816]

I thought that too

[@vymeyers3154]

I was thinking the same thing the whole time

[@mannahfest7717]

My mind went there too- she knew she had to hide who she was, and knew she didn't want to disfigure herself while conscious...maybe the pills were just a hope to make the death quicker, or take the edge off. Keeping her identity a mystery means she was trying to protect someone else.

[@melyangelissperez2556]

Exactly ( i was just about to comment that) cause if she was a spy then obvi she would want to not be recognized

[@xxgirl101xx]

Woman: *found with her front (and only her front) burnt, petrol at the scene, over 70 sleeping pills in her stomach, has fake names and documents, body in a remote location where she’d be hard to find and a well dressed woman would have very little non sketchy reason to be* Police: must be an accident

[@viptech_c5286]

Maybe she was just a spy that sucked ass and can't hold a bottle of hairspray correctly over a fire. Of course I'm joking, but imagine.

[@ShrimpInACoffin]

Looks like a suicide

[@affordableslay4520]

I swear half buzzfeed cases have this similar story line. We followed some of the worse police work with these cases

[@Flanneryschickens]

Yeah, I have no idea how they concluded that she swallowed 50 sleeping pills as part of an "accident"

[@sone3292]

xxgirl101xx police in norway is like that ahaha

[@starfishndcoffee]

she was incredibly smart for taking the tags off her clothes and removing the labels from everything she owned. by doing that she erased everything she owned from existence, and when she burned her face, it was similar to her removing the labels. she erased herself from existence, in a way.

[@aryashaji5117]

why does this seems so sad...... erasing herself from existence ......no will ever remember her or miss her:((((

[@Nimish204]

@@aryashaji5117 I mean, that's what spies are supposed to do

[@aryashaji5117]

@@Nimish204 I know that

[@vincenteldridge916]

There are no remnants of a fire at the scene and the can was found a substantial distance away. Also the sleeping pills weren't absorbed by the time of her time

[@rajpalbhatia1715]

that what i was thinking

[@florencealice40]

the thing that i haven't seen anyone mention is that it doesn't have to have been a murder or a suicide. it could have been a sort of assisted suicide where (assuming she was a spy) she needed to disappear, so she took a load of sleeping pills to make her unconscious and eventually kill her, and then had another person set her face on fire so as to destroy her identity

[@nataliemoreira6594]

@@erzuliekingslee1100 hence the garlic

[@haideludwig8998]

florence alice, that's the smartest conclusion to date. I agree with you 100 % !

[@kareemasmar2635]

But she didn’t kill herself and go through suicide right? I don’t know

[@Zaolan123]

She would have still been breathing though, in order for the smoke particles to saturate her lungs. She could have had someone burn her face if she passed out but was still breathing

[@claresstyle]

Yes I absolutely agree, I thought of that exact same theory!

[@australiansurferdudechad8635]

Garlic was not something that was usual in the kitchen in Norway during the 70’s so people didn’t usually know what it smelled like until later when more “exotic” food got popular so yea

[@ggata5181]

AustralianSurferDude Chad Actually makes alot of sense.

[@camillajefferson386]

Came here to suggest this.

[@moonskiimoonraider3863]

Sureee

[@jujunita5678]

wait wat? northern europeans didnt use garlic.??

[@sarahs-fm9cm]

@@jujunita5678 no, it got introduced in the 80s. it's native to central asia. we do love garlic now tho!

[@ll-tj8hr]

i’d like to imagine that years later the shoe man was taking a shower and when he reaches for the soap he freezes and says “garlic. it was garlic”

[@annaneedshelp7729]

AHAHAHAHA

[@adeleaslan8182]

I bet someone offered him garlic bread and right before he took a bite he was like “this is what she smelled like!”

[@keevamcnutt1066]

You've heard of "Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica" Now get ready for "Breadsticks, Boots, Burnin myself alive"

[@alyssaking3663]

Bats, Beer, and Barely Understood Murder

[@shannon-alicecostelloe1919]

IdeNtITY ThEfT iS NoT A JoKE JiM

[@thefourseasonsandme4374]

@@shannon-alicecostelloe1919 AHHHHHH!!!!😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤

[@isabellamerritt9224]

Shannon-Alice Costelloe *makes pencil wall*

[@anoja31]

Lmaoo

[@slenderman2741]

Here’s a fun factoid for everyone albeit a bit late: people whom have been exposed to arsenic sometimes present with a garlicky odour to their breathe/ tissue fluids. I really always felt that that had something to do with this revelation lool I mean I don’t know how maybe if she knew she was dying or maybe she was being slowly poisoned no matter where she went? Iddddk it also makes sense that her teeth would continue to carrier an odour lool

[@tangerinesfolga3243]

Wow

[@LadyGwynhwfar]

Wouldn’t arsenic have presented at the autopsy? Only her face and front was burnt

[@cearamaire]

@@LadyGwynhwfar Google says most of the arsenic would leave the system in a few days. I'm not sure how long her body sat there for

[@t.ezeebary9533]

cloud she have been taking it in slow dosses to gain some sort of resistance or immunity to it, like when people drink snake poison slowly over a long period of time so that they would gain immunity to it. or it doesn't work like that?

[@darkamora5123]

It's a heavy metal, one cannot develop an immunity to it. Only things like venoms, which are complicated proteins, can see your body potentially produce antibodies that might grant immunity. You can no more develop an immunity to arsenic than you can develop an immunity to drowning.

[@sketchbook8177]

My theory: she was a spy, and believed she was compromised. She took the pills so she wouldn’t feel the fire. She set herself on fire so she wouldn’t be identified and traced back to whoever she was working for.

[@b.valentine5283]

Thats my theory too. I really hope that the sleeping pills mostly numbed the pain or knocked her out quickly

[@meredithgrey2822]

sketch book yes I thought the same

[@jaydengray4015]

sketch book that’s a very smart theory

[@Sethoo4872]

My theory was maybe she was hiding from something. It would explain her multiple identities, and why she asked to change rooms so often in hotels. Then maybe she either killed herself or was found and killed by who she was hiding from.

[@toodeadtowatch]

I agree! That also explains why she was only burned in the front, after taking so many sleeping pills, you'd go into a coma and wouldn't be able to move. Even if she was on fire she wouldn't be able to roll around in pain, which would spread the flame to her back (or put out the fire) I mean if someone other than her set the fire to burn evidence of a murder they would defiantly have tried to burn all of her. It just makes more sense that she did it herself. If she was in a rush to erase her identity she would think that burning her face of was good enough.

[@cadynextdoorr]

“breadsticks, boots, burning myself alive” is the unsolved equivalent to “bears, beets, battlestar galactica”

[@stellaoleyar9097]

Lmao this just made my day 😂

[@starfishndcoffee]

LMAOOOOP

[@Maxlmao46]

LMFAOO

[@itsavery4649]

😂😂😂

[@imsimple379]

That's exactly what it reminded me of lmao 🤣

[@modenavigationprivee1227]

Buzzfeed unsolved is the sole reason I’m getting through this quarantine

[@stephanie9880]

Feel this.

[@ace.l.w]

Same here.

[@suetanner7968]

Mood

[@vena6340]

same😂😂

[@annagerstenberger7526]

Yup

[@rozzieroxton3345]

I live in Bergen and not too far from the Isdal Valley. I have visited the crime scene several times. The same rocks are still there. And it makes no sense to go up there and kill yourself with sleeping pills and setting yourself on fire. It is very hard to get up there in those steep hills. The fact that she was in the city of Stavanger on the exact date when the norewgian navy was testing their new Penguin missile seems strange to me. That was a top secret project and the missile is in use today.

[@jameslewis4511]

Did anyone else notice the similarities of this case and the case of the unknown man found on the beach in Australia? They both had clothing tags removed, secret codes were involved, no one claimed them, etc.

[@baka2253]

Wait what's the name of that case ??

[@victoria1835]

Tamam Shud case or Somerton Man

[@thebibliophilegirluk]

@@victoria1835 it's the first ever true crime thing buzzfeed unsolved ever did. It's the somerton man. Yeah, the similarities are pretty remarkable. I'd never noticed them before!

[@HELIXBOSS]

They recovered the case and there was another woman who death was similar covered by them Lady of the dunes was the case

[@cassiusfelix2805]

Now that's a connection

[@mirandareyesalvarado7237]

Shane & Ryan in an escape room pls

[@popsicIes]

666 B)

[@sparklinglemon-limepop8442]

Yesssss

[@vladvladson7683]

why

[@JohnGaltShadow]

And years later they explored a haunted escape room on Watcher!

[@kuruptzZz]

Whether suicide or murder, the fire seems more to prevent her ever being identified. It clearly worked

[@kenedeighbara2188]

kuruptzZz but don’t passports require a photo? Unless that’s a relatively new feature

[@MtheGamerboy]

Kenedeigh Bara true, but she did have wigs, etc

[@Bobo03x]

Exactly!!! She swallowed the pills to ensure death and lit herself on fire to prevent being identified. To me, the question is: what drove her to do so? And, obviously, who is she?

[@Bobo03x]

Kenedeigh Bara she took every other step to prevent her from being identified. Removing passport photos would be first on the list

[@kate781]

None of the eight passports were actually found and authorities (NRK) believe they were burnt with her. They only know about them because Norwegian authorities in the 70s required all foreigners who checked into hotels to fill out a form with personalia and passport number and show their passport to the receptionist.

[@kaymorelove]

*Hears the word eczema in any sentence* My brain instantly: “You got eczema?!”

[@nameslesss]

Y A G U T E C Z E M U H

[@livyh5618]

I do 😭

[@livyh5618]

@@nameslesss I got wat?

[@tojoinbobdylan]

Under weaknesses, you've put eczema 😂

[@ultimatum6786]

I don't know what that is

[@voodoochild7413]

*Its such a priviledge to be born in the same generation with buzzfeed unsolved*

[@damianlozano4562]

And the greatest president in the best country asumming you are American

[@sophiaarias9341]

Damian Lozano LMAO are you trying to offend someone? That was so random

[@damianlozano4562]

@@sophiaarias9341 no just stating a fact

[@singlikethedoves]

that's not even a fact... that's an opinion

[@voodoochild7413]

@@damianlozano4562 I aint even American chill dude lmao

[@Derek032789]

Garlic wasn't widely available or known in Norway at the time.

[@emiliew5553]

damn were they okay?

[@Derek032789]

@@emiliew5553 The world was far less globalized in 1970. Many foods we take for granted today weren't widely available at that time.

[@thealrightgatsby1874]

@@Derek032789 Oh you were serious. Thought that was a joke lmao

[@Greezy2000]

Oh god a world without garlic

[@dudahelena4025]

All I have to say is: Arsenic smells like garlic

[@angelica-xo8vn]

reporter: sees envelope envelope: don’t reporter: ok

[@fromthebrightvalley5529]

Angelica Besa or they really did see what was inside and it was too much to handle 😳😱

[@izukumidoriya4689]

@@fromthebrightvalley5529 i have not thought about that

[@shardofkingdoms9816]

Terrible reporter if you ask me

[@beelzemobabbity]

@@fromthebrightvalley5529 especially since a reporter would jump at the chance to publish something like that, either means that what was inside could threaten their safety.

[@rachelraquel758]

That would be me. I’m such a chicken.

[@ashwathic.6407]

the isdal woman: i’m an international super sp- *dies*

[@Bea-xl9rb]

PABLO LMAO 😂

[@nicolajp9037]

Reminds me of elijah wood saying cake then getting electrocuted

[@Alesha_Lewer]

You just went there 😂🤣🤣 awesome 😎😂

[@luxray5220]

I'm honestly surprised no one thinks the strange bruise on her neck was a hickey

[@h.a.6884]

It got steamy in more than one way

[@jr0ggy]

bong bong LMAO STOP

[@realEmoSedillo]

In those days people didn't know what that was.

[@yk_arubanorchid297]

🤣

[@yuu悦]

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[@smokedavocados]

I remove labels on my clothes because they itch my waist and neck. 😂😂💀

[@owenheaphy9553]

Same it is so annoying

[@callmewaves1160]

Right? I was thinking that... May not be a sign of suspicion

[@siriusrainbow]

@@callmewaves1160 but the labels were also removed from bottles and make-up. So that's why it is suspicious.

[@paigehrtsjungkook]

Same it's so annoying they in the most awkward places

[@daracampbell9941]

Plus she had eczema cream - people with eczema often have extra sensitive skin

[@barclairian]

Walking into Shane’s house, but instead of having a ‘Live, Laugh, Love’ sign over the mantle, there’s a ‘Breadsticks, Boots, Burning Yourself Alive’ sign

[@iyanamichaela4437]

Claire Poirier “Breadsticks, Boots, Wheeze”

[@AdamWarIock]

The fact that her teeth ended up in some warehouse and the Dr who was examining them died, tells me who ever she was working for did not want it found out, because that answer to open a can of worms the world never knew about. Great story none-the-less.

[@EughhBrothereughh]

He died in 2010 it all happened in 70s

[@aliyaanderson]

Maybe she was caught, because she was a spy and whoever murdered her did it to send a message. Left her belongings next to her so that the people who knew her would know it was her but burned her body beyond recognition enough her true identity would never be found.

[@justsomemegwithalongnose7116]

yes

[@sethroberson8526]

Maybe she was caught, because she was a spy and whoever murdered her did it to send a message. Left her belongings next to her so that the people who knew her would know it was her but burned her body beyond recognition enough her true identity would never be found.

[@personone4160]

@@sethroberson8526 yes

[@bulldogblast1945]

@@sethroberson8526 why did you just copy paste thee comment

[@obsessiveleechvol.2329]

@@sethroberson8526 OMG THATS SO SMART WHY HAS NO-ONE ELSE THOUGHT OF THAT!1!1!1!1! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😱😱😱😱

[@bridgetforsythe4423]

The life of this woman leading up to her death would make a REALLY good movie.

[@emilysummerell7680]

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING!!! but like you would never see her face because she hasnt been identified yet or something like that!

[@AzulianaKitty]

Norweigian TV wants to make mini series about Isdal Woman. It was on Unresolved reddit about week ago I try to find the link.

[@sal4538]

I wAS THINKINg tHAT 2

[@colossaldumbass1557]

Totally!!

[@bridgetforsythe4423]

Azuliana oh awesome!! I’m definitely gonna have to watch that!

[@nighthasfallen456]

The cops in the various episodes of Buzzfeed Unsolved True Crime could find a body shot in the back of the head execution-style and STILL be like "hmm, yes, obviously a suicide..."

[@Cherrycherryemoji]

I think something like this actually happened nfncndndj

[@heyryanisonx3141]

Like the charles morgan episode?

[@unbeatengamer755]

On one side there is "this boot is bought from a place 150 miles from the victims death then we found the hotel and also found what her notepad meant" and then there is what he said above.

[@perfectfae3534]

Coroner is the one who makes that decision.

[@titallium3244]

Idk Gary Webb died by suicide from 2 bullets to the back of the head after exposing the Panama papers

[@sweetlorikeet]

This case has so many suspicious aspects, and the most suspicious one is that the police decided that it was AN ACCIDENT. You might as well just stamp the case file with "Avoiding This".

[@CastafioreOnYoutube]

Ryan: *scared of getting shot in forests* Also Ryan: *hikes off the path like a madman*

[@a.j8332]

Buzzfeed unsolved: this case remains unsolved Me: WTF

[@forcedtohaveahandle]

Cringie Cringiest So you know who she was? Please do share.

[@haccdawg5206]

When ur surprised that its still unsolved. when its already named Buzzfeed Unsolved.... 😂😂😂

[@Pahhu]

I know what I'm getting into every time with these videos and yet they still leave me with blue balls.

[@Paultimate7]

ahahah too right.

[@veganmocha]

lmfaooo i’m the same way

[@alyssas3512]

Bread sticks. Boots. Burnin myself alive.

[@jimmyhilley6706]

All hail the watcher

[@virgomoons]

Need that on a t-shirt xD

[@sallyboyye808]

Lmao I was listening to that part when I read your comment

[@marciecola1820]

identify theft is not a joke alyssa

[@jonathansoko1085]

Why are they trying humor in a suicide video? Wtf? This isnt funny

[@Artimystra]

For all of you that haven't read it, there's an article with a man who thinks he saw her walking on the trail about a week before she was found. Description matches, he said she looked scared and like she was about to say something to him but didn't. Following about 20m behind were 2 men of southern european appearance. He had been hiking all day and they are the only people he saw. Apparently all were wearing town clothes, inappropriate for such a hike.

[@foothunger]

Is=ice dal=valley Proceeds to show stock footage of a dessert.

[@nadjaannabel1]

My thoughts exactly! I live not too far from there and that footage was funny when you know what the area looks like.

[@rachell452]

Desert not dessert. Remember one S is for Sahara, two S's are for sweets.

[@Getout634]

Regina Phalange oooooh smart lmao I’m 16 and I still get confused. It’s quite sad actually.

[@hyde1893]

@wwng i care it's a good trick

[@chubbybunny1711]

Does anyone else just go on Buzzfeed Unsolved binges like once a month?

[@ΔάφνηΚαλαποδά]

high five bro

[@tinycockjock1967]

Guilty of it. They’re pretty good

[@Astakugoballz]

Yeah I rewatch them a lot

[@SamThaMan528]

I used to all the time in August now when I come back I can't stop watching

[@hopeelizabeth19]

Oh yeah that’s me right now

[@s.henden1786]

Garlic was not a common “spice” in Norway until the 90`s. It was not popular to use in many dishes, and many had not tasted garlic in the 70`s. I can assume that this is the reason the man in Stavanger did not know what garlic was when he smelled it.

[@timpauwels3734]

Why on earth would Flemish lead to Switzerland and central Europe? It's a form of Dutch from Western Europe, by the coast (NW Belgium)!

[@Anvekeen]

Erika Neemeyer german could indeed lead to switzerland, but flemish, centrally europe....? Man you need to work on your geography. It’s essentially northern Belgium (Im Belgian) or possibly the Nederlands, as it’s a variety of Dutch kinda and spoken in southern Nederlands

[@sigmundbartosch3542]

käften tjockis

[@rowansage5159]

As a person with very easily triggered anxiety, who really just can’t do horror or psychological tactics to make someone scared, I need to stop watching these when I have work in the morning.

[@alexanderk.6869]

Lol I've thought about what if there were alternate versions of these videos uploaded but with the spooky music replaced with something goofy so I don't accidentally keep myself up until 3am

[@ivanichianus]

Rewatching this episode, at the end I got kind of sad This person whether or not she got murdered or decided to kill herself, died a painful death and probably died feeling alone due to the constant moving and trying to avoid everyone, so probably didn’t have many close friends/family And no one has claimed her and probably will never be identified 🙁

[@PoochieCollins]

Aww Jimmy, now you made me saaaad.

[@SolsticeBeautyByJessica]

Same. How sad.

[@tianglistrikkonoha7713]

She is a spy, always live alone. Like a ghost :3

[@aaronburr4558]

Tiang listrik Konoha thats what i was thinking. She was definitely a spy or in some sort of shady business

[@mariedawson4579]

Suicide by sleeping pills is not just sleeping in and dying, it’s supposedly super painful because all your organs are shutting down one by one. We learned about it in class when one of our classmates tried to kill herself with sleeping pills. (She did survive, and is doing a lot better today)

[@lydia8431]

Marie Dawson that’s super insightful! i’m also glad your classmate is doing well.

[@melissalawrence2124]

That makes me so happy to hear that you're classmate is doing well! I have had lots of experience with suicide throughout my life, and I understand how hard it is to lose someone to mental illness. Most of the people in my life that attempted suicide weren't able to succeed, but not all of them could be saved from the damage they had done to themselves. Just remember to be kind to everyone and listen to anyone that really needs it.

[@iampagliacci8923]

This sucks. Now I'll have to find another way to go when time comes.

[@MB-sj2yu]

Depends on what kind of “sleeping pill” there are many

[@katarinabenninger2924]

@@iampagliacci8923 Are you okay? Truthfully?

[@deanbrandsma617]

Shane - “We’re not going to do any cyanide pill testing until the season finale” *Buzzfeed announces the last season of unsolved* Me - *nervous sweating*

[@ciircuz]

Here is something super interesting, and i hope you bring this up in the QnA: A couple of decades later, in Norway. A woman is found dead in a hotel room in Oslo. To this day her murder is unsolved, but the circumstances around this is too simular not to bring up. She was found dead in her bed, along with multiple weapons, ammonition, and a diver's watch. A suitcase was also found at the scene. She booked the hotel room using a fake name, and police and studies determined she is of Belgian/French decent. One of the most chilling details is that here - just as in Iskaldkvinnens case, the tag's on her clothes were also REMOVED. For anyone interested in the case, search "Plaza kvinnen" or "Plaza woman norway" :) I left out a lot of details, and im sorry for the poor spelling. But i advice you to look into it, the simularities are chilling. EDIT: Didn't really expect this to blow up like this. Re-read what i said and MY BAD that its so all over the place. Do your own research and figure out yourself, as i said the circumstances are close. A small country like Norway with a low crime-rate, these two cases pops out of the many. Two nameless women, possible spies murdered with both of them having ties to Belgium/France.

[@scoutz0rs]

Yes, I know exactly what case this is! Jennifer Fergate (sp?) or something? It's another fascinating one.

[@TheGracefulChariot]

similar to the somerton man too, though his case was about 20 years earlier i believe.

[@MCRTS]

I remove all tags because they itch me:/

[@Prath919]

Jesus, i live like 15-20 minutes away from that plaza hotel. I haven't heard about this and i'm seriously little bit afraid to dive into the story of it..

[@uchibauki2515]

She could be a call girl paid by politicians or billionaire, so sad if it's true

[@0mahami0]

Garlic was introduced to norway in the 80's so the guy probably wasn't familiar with the smell at the time, then recognized it later when he was exposed to food or cooking with garlic

[@girlnotthis9738]

Martine Mikalsen how's that possible not having a garlic...

[@superiorcatsociety]

80s seems pretty late for the introduction of something like garlic. I've always taken it for granted that people all over the world can get ahold of something like that by like the 1950s or sth. That's interesting.

[@0mahami0]

Meawbin I don't know about how easy it was to get ahold of but there probably wasn't much of a demand since it wasn't an ingredient people would normally use 😊

[@MarcelPolman]

I dont hate you.. but I think you are full of poep.

[@0mahami0]

lolhahalol2 okey dokey

[@palomarenee]

Not going to lie, I wait for these all week and get so excited when it's Friday.

[@amymartinez8278]

Paloma Renee yep

[@juliocruz1503]

Paloma Renee me too

[@randomedits6283]

Paloma Renee same

[@TeohuaMendoza]

Same

[@harrycallahan5674]

Me too

[@laurakastrup]

I love the idea of 1) having wigs 2) multiple passports 3) removing labels = spy Now the fact the passports were fake leads to probably spying But if it was just those 3 criteria then I’m a spy too, I’m dual citizen of Denmark and Vietnam, they contain two very different names, one Northern European one south East Asian, I have wigs from chemotherapy and my hair fell out (I’m fine now. I just spent a lot of money on those wigs and they’re cute so I still sometimes use them for fun) and labels in clothing rub up against my skin which is uncomfortable so I remove them/sew them into the fabric depending on what type of label it is

[@alexanderk.6869]

Congrats on the recovery! Wigs are a super fun (if expensive) accessory

[@laurakastrup]

@@alexanderk.6869 they really are, the government of the country I live in (Denmark) decided to refund 50% of the price of the wigs so I have a few, some of them made synthetically some of them of real human hair, even one made of my own natural hair from when I was 15 (before my cancer)

[@yahyehahmed3749]

Obviously a spy😂

[@Marshbouy]

"breadsticks, boots, burning myself alive" I am crying with laughter.

[@blueblur9877]

NY Aquatics your easy to please damn

[@skullhinde1837]

me too! 🤣😍😎

[@paulinaparty]

i cant be the only one who thought beats bears battlestar galactica

[@paulinaparty]

nvm i jus saw a comment i’m not aoone

[@Sha-vv8hh]

"She had various identities, she operated with codes, she wore wigs, she traveled from town to town, and switched hotels after a few days." she's a drag queen

[@tenten9237]

Wouldn't she be a drag king then? It's crossdressing

[@Teichralle]

A very accurate comment.

[@belalugosi_isdead]

taehyung's wig in hwarang not necessarily, woman can be drag queens as well

[@Cvnt_blvnt]

Her name was something like Garlicia prolly

[@hiigghhggg9150]

maddy vanzandt nah, her name was probably “ShuShu Fontana”

[@nola1439]

Back in the day, labels on clothing could be VERY identifying. Clothes weren’t nearly as mass produced as they are now. There may be only one store that sold that item, depending on what it was. And if they were foreign, that’d help know which country or other state they came from. Sizing would help if the person’s body was so badly burned that the size of their body changed.

[@cheesenuggets2236]

Anna this is what I mean she could of taken the labels off on purpose, to not be identified. This would explain her being a spy also.

[@kayscards1077]

What if she was being pursued by an enemy spy and swallowed the pills to commit suicide but before they worked, the enemy spy set her on fire...

[@katchupmachined1914]

This was my leading theory for a while but the thing that doesn’t quite add up for me is the method of death. I’d assume a spy would have a faster means of suicide then sleeping pills like cyanide, a Gun, or even something as simple as a knife. Likewise I’d assume a spy sent to hunt down another spy would choose a more professional means of death like poison, or a gun, or even a knife. While a fire would be a useful way to hide the features afterwards the process of dousing an human, much less a spy, in something flammable and then lighting them on fire seems like too much of a risk for me. They could easily fight back and one wrong move and suddenly you’re also on fire.

[@sneepsnorp1883]

@@katchupmachined1914 If you recall, police found her belongings at the TRAIN STATION. She was obviously in a hurry, most likely because she knew she was being hunted, so she most likely threw on something easy to move in and not all that noticeable. She was wearing a skirt, so it isn't clear is she had pockets or time to strap on a thigh holster and a gun (I don't even think she had a gun in her belongings.). As a spy that knew she was caught, she went out to a notorious suicide hot-spot with a bottle of pills in her hand (Small and easy to carry.) and went to a place that she probably would've hand picked before hand just in case this ever happened so she would be slightly prepared and dry swallowed the pills just as her enemy came into view. Realizing that she wouldn't survive to tell them what they needed to know, they burned her using the gasoline to cover her identity and most likely help cover their tracks in the process. Moving things around in the crime scene caused confusion and therefore the case was never solved. But that's just what I think :)

[@katchupmachined1914]

@@sneepsnorp1883 I’ll say that I can’t entirely discount that however if it’s an enemy spy then what does it matter? What do they gain from concealing her identity?

[@sneepsnorp1883]

@@katchupmachined1914 She would've had a name, a family, companions, rivals, and most importantly, a JOB and what that job was. If what and who she was came to light, of course other things that revolved around her would too! Think about it. You realize who this person was and what she did, and this is just another clue to who killed her. Detectives, police, and even the government would most likely be VERY interested to find out who killed her, or who was after her, after most likely finding many enemies on her spy trail. Along with the idea of finding out the motive of her death, this would be a very unwanted headache to these people who thrived on avoiding the spotlight, no matter how small the headache was. Her identity being revealed would bring a lot to the surface, things that they were trying to hide, because why else were they doing it in secret?

[@katchupmachined1914]

@@sneepsnorp1883 We have a fair description of what she looked like from the people she interacted with, and we have dna along with a dental history as well. My point is that local governments would have no way of identifying her regardless if she really wasn’t a citizen of their country, and National governments would be well aware of who was currently in the field. The government she belonged to isn’t going to hear about a mysterious woman dying, see that one of their spies hadn’t come back from their mission for some time, and then be confused about it. At best they’d probably list her as MIA while it was being investigated and then eventually KIA once more came out about it. The only person who’d have the motive to obscure her features was herself if she really was a spy. If they found her body intact they may have been able to connect her to other operations in hopes of finding out what she had been involved in prior to her death. If someone connected her to someone they saw in a place she shouldn’t have been at some point they’d know that where ever she had been was most likely compromised. If you want my theory I’d say she probably burned herself so that whoever she was running from wouldn’t be able to identify her, the sleeping pills may have been taken in hopes that they’d speed up the process or at the very least numb the pain to some extent, leaving her belongings beside her was potentially a way to signal her allies as to who she was as they’d potentially recognize the belongings. The suitcase I imagine was left at the train station either for or by a fellow spy, and it probably at one point contained whatever intelligence she had obtained. Either she left it at the train station so that a spy could come along, take whatever was inside, and then leave it or she gave it to another spy during a handoff and made the train station the drop point so that she could pick it up later, which she of course didn’t as she was compromised somehow. I imagine whatever nation she belonged to knew exactly who she was but kept silent as to not expose which of them was spying on the other especially if all signs point to suicide, which as you know isn’t something spies just do for no reason. I just hope whatever government she belonged to at least notified her family so they could get some kind of closure. (I know this contradicts what I had said earlier but after thinking over everything I believe his is what happened)

[@naomifitzgerald1403]

You: bears, beets battlestar galactica Me, an intellectual: breadsticks, boots, burning myself alive

[@sofiaflores4854]

Yes the office

[@dakotaw0419]

I love this

[@hipnhappenin]

I thought the same exact thing but thought it was too obscure to post!

[@whosnoelle2672]

smh don't disrespect dwight k schrute like that

[@christyho5231]

champagne, cocaine, gasoline

[@IlaMedlin]

Some people remove the labels from all their clothes because they are bothered by them. Scratchy.

[@IlaMedlin]

@I. Wynn Wynn the person in my life who removes tags from clothes also removes the labels from his shampoo, lighters, and paintbrushes. It is one of the ways we can tell some of our stuff apart.

[@IlaMedlin]

@I. Wynn Wynn i think these things go hand in hand

[@C00l-k1d]

Ila Medlin let me guess this also explains why she had different wigs and multiple passports

[@clairobscur7697]

PLUS there was a n eczema creme, which means she had skin problems.

[@leahwalker9151]

Ila Medlin me af but she did it with the bottles and legit everything

[@Capricorn1891]

Garlic was apparently not used in foods commonly in that place of the world, at that time. That's why the guy didn't realise what the smell was until years later (when it became more common in foods).

[@cassielaine3241]

Capricorn1891 This is probably unrelated but under one of the murder documentaries I was watching, they said that if you put garlic on a knife before you stab someone then it’s almost always fatal because garlic prevents bleeding for some reason. Hence the saying a “seasoned murder weapon”

[@MilleMoomin]

Garlic was indeed unusual in Norway in the 70s :) Garlic begun to rise to popularity in the 80s even though it was at times used in the 70s as well. That might be why he wasn't able to pinpoint the smell until years after :o

[@011mph]

Capricorn1891 that makes sense

[@leeleemerk7344]

+Cassie Laine garlic is caustic, if you rub crushed garlic in a wound it will eat at the flesh.

[@hartq.05]

Truee

[@nocturnalizzie]

It's interesting to me that they couldn't identify what brands the makeup items were. Granted, I'm really into makeup so I'm familiar with a lot of products, but if you walked into an Ulta, bought something, removed its label, and handed it to me, I feel like I'd probably at least have a general idea of which brand made it.

[@afrodit8582]

Me too. Maybe we should have cosmetology detection department.

[@nocturnalizzie]

@@afrodit8582 Cosmetic forensics? Heck yeah! Two of my favorite things merged into one. :)

[@afrodit8582]

@@nocturnalizzie omgg yess.

[@Shadeadder]

Keep in mind that this was the 70s. Widespread drugstore beauty brands weren't so, well, widespread. There were a lot more individual, small makeup brands exclusive to certain towns and cities.

[@ayooandy]

Buzzfeed unsolved was made for introverts. The fact that it’s uploaded on a Friday and we are all here ready to watch and not outside is enough evidence lol. Love these vids!!!

[@ClaraP23]

JenevaDean tru!!

[@Ilovedallthepeople]

Why does introverts always talk like they are so proud of not liking social interact lmao

[@ayooandy]

Clara Powell I’m not proud of not being social. I’m not trying to romanticize anti social-ness but if someone asked me to go out or if i wanted to stay in and watch buzzfeed blue .. i think we know who wins. Introverts arent anti social we just get drained faster that other ppl from social interactions😁

[@mcsy98]

@@Ilovedallthepeople i dunno, extroverts seem proud talking about all the friend connections they have and all the places theyre going to with them, but who cares if extroverts and introverts have their own interests and things that theyre proud of which differs them from the other. We're all just humans trying to be content with life lol

[@Ilovedallthepeople]

@@mcsy98 Lmao I think the separation between introverts and extroverts is competely bs, made up by moody teens who identifies as "introverted" to feel recognised and special. Once you grow up everybody identifies as both, haha just my opinion though. Anyway, my comments was more directed to the fact that people who call themselves "introverts" are always claiming and talking about being introvert, meanwhile someone who is more of the extrovert type of personality never talks about it and just dont care about such distinction.

[@selinaliu5948]

"Bread sticks, boots, burn myself alive." "H-holy sh*t!"

[@ericatonnu4005]

Selina Liu JungKook!!!!!!

[@evemurray7896]

Se

[@mr.canaille3793]

Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica

[@teeth3206]

As a person who has tried to overdose on sleeping pills. I thought it would be peaceful but it was extremely painful, I could physically feel my body shut down and it hurts. Thanks everyone for the kind words. As of late I have not self harmed for 6 months and have not been in hospital since July of last year. My mood are steadily become better through a strict regime set by my therapist and counsellor. I have started my transition journey to become the man I need to be happy.

[@Kat-PM]

big boyyo Oh gosh, that sounds awful. I’m so glad you’re still alive. ❤️

[@therainbowwillow4453]

I’m so glad you’re here.

[@jellowick27]

big boyyo i love your profile pic

[@amnanadeem2021]

Glad youre here man.

[@zoealana6842]

i’m so glad you’re still here ❤️❤️ i hope you are doing well

[@alyssaw3412]

This is veeery reminiscent to me of the "Jennifer Fairgate" mystery who was shot in a hotel in Oslo. She was concluded to possibly/most likely be a spy because she had very similar things in her luggage to the Isdal woman. Odd clothing items with all tags torn off, multiple passports, frequent hotel check ins in different cities under aliases, etc.. .

[@careyannesh]

My great uncle was a spy during the war because he spoke five languages fluently. He used to remove the labels on things because if he was wearing a shirt or using shaving cream that was bought at a store in one city, it would tie him to that city. He did it even when he was older, he would peel the labels from things or scrub them with his fingernail. He said it was a habit, and only told us when he was very old why he did it.

[@RogueIsDead]

circa dian which war?

[@cardbored1159]

Zenter the Cold War I think

[@natural91LC]

was he with the west or the soviets ? :O that's soooo cool , I've just finished the Americans and I'm obsessed with the spy world lol

[@morbjrn5265]

circa dian My great grandfather was a spy in Germany post WW2. He somehow managed to travel west to east Germany. He also traveled to Austria. No one knows exactly what he did. He took alot to the grave. All we know is he was a spy for the US, he spoke fluent German, French, possibly Russian, and whatever he had to deal with ate him up inside. I never got to meet him but I've uncovered papers, photos, and have heard many things about him.

[@natural91LC]

WOW that's so interesting!! :D

[@michaelaballesteros7492]

mkeh so there's this mystery here in the philippines called "the chop chop lady" where this girl's body got dismembered/chopped into pieces by an unknown suspect and it was thrown into different places in the city(she was one month pregnant when this happened btw). until now the head is not yet discovered/found and this happened in 1967 i think. was wondering if you guys could discuss about this (if you guys do i would be more then happy). //and hey ur show is gr8 i love this

[@Dockhead]

apperently an american was linked to the death there by a google search which said he was deported back to the US in the 1990's

[@ughwimi3448]

gaytorade at its finest this story still haunts me after my mom told me abt this aAaaAaa- also is that lance from voltron on ur pfp?

[@Rysuwu]

gaytorade at its finest I didn't know about that omg

[@guelly9974]

R u filipino?

[@Rysuwu]

Someone From The Internet me? Yes

[@chip404]

are you guys sure it wasn’t a fruity garilc-y smell

[@victorialee7455]

Girllll

[@pazzieanneknexx809]

Quality reference!

[@hannahxx5224]

DAMMIT KEN!

[@sockworks]

*o i l y s h e e n*

[@bigthanos4184]

Jesus Ken, God! We have a patient here

[@squidpigeon7048]

it is nice that they tried to figure out enough about her in order to give her the funeral they felt he deserved. the detail about them giving her a coffin that wouldnt decompose so she could be moved to a more fitting resting place if she was claimed made me tear up a bit

[@NannaLaurie]

I'm from Norway. The reason the man didn't rcognize the smell of garlic, as that - although garlic came to Norway (in probably like, the 60s - don't quote me on this), people thought it was for decoration. They didn't actually know to cook with it until like the 80s (fun story a refugee told me. She was really weirded out by how everyone had decorational garlic in their kitchens but no one used it for cooking). This case (isdalskvinnen) was in 1970.

[@NannaLaurie]

Side note: Maybe next time use mountains that actually look like the ones we have here? JS.

[@ravickt58]

Amazing facts

[@ravickt58]

Nanna amaz Jjjjjing fac ts Rajeshvaidta ' veneer. Oy

[@ravickt58]

A 'Vee e00i ĹeRRavi**@7¥

[@ravickt58]

0( bharathi bhaskar

[@1192389]

"Breadsticks, boots, burning myself alive" is going to be my tinder bio

[@rais14]

bears. beets. battelstar galactica.

[@thales3772]

Raisa Shams “- MICHAEL!!!”

[@manrajchinjar7352]

Maths for morons Karni that’s mean

[@alissawilliams3435]

Raisa Shams “IDENTITY THEFT IS NOT A JOKE, JIM!”

[@jaccedar5598]

You're gonna get all the people from that bio! They're just gonna look at it and say, "Wow, that's amazing. They are obviously spouse material." :)

[@shinemtb1717]

am i the only one REALLY annoyed that nobody bothered to try to reopen that cassette thing or whatever it was? LIKE YOURE AN INVESTIGATOR, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT

[@lizzielove9339]

No instead they where stopped by a sticky note .......

[@maikenlarsen634]

shinecyj Norwegian people usually take the criminals because They are Well trained But that far back in time, HAH, I would actually laugh If someone told me at that time that the police in Norway actually would do a real effort and solve around all murder cases

[@localbisaster]

Like even if you're not an investigator and you find something with "don't open without authorisation" written on it you HAVE to open it i don't make the rules

[@lordofassassins11]

If you're an investigator, "Do not open without permission" should absolutely scream "OPEN ME"

[@victoriakim2494]

I think it's because he was worried that someone could be watching or knows that if he opens the cassette and gets murdered instantly? Just a conclusion i was pretty annoyed too

[@sicariusflamus3033]

also important to remember is how she would change hotel rooms frequently within the same hotel, so she may have been doing this to deter anyone who might come after her, but her luck ran out

[@Mm-pn6fn]

Every single crime story becomes 10x creepier with Ryan's narration.

[@code_siren5619]

True

[@uh5169]

Nah I think it makes it more like welcoming and less scary

[@moolin]

Okay, but have you guys read about the fact that someone came forward in 2005 saying he recognised the woman from the sketches that were given? 5 days before the woman was found dead he saw her while he was hiking on fløyen. He said she didnt look like she was dressed up for hiking but rather more city like (I've been hiking there as well and trust me there is no way you can wear nice clothes up there). He apparently saw her together with two other men. And he reported this to the police, but was told to forget about it all together? I mean if this doesnt sound fishy enough to you then i don't know.

[@Dkclyrd]

M I was thinking something along these lines. Like someone was on to her being a spy and she knew she had to kill herself (takes the pills herself) but needed help covering up her identity (gets her spy buddies to help burn her)

[@mayer_cheyenne]

Kelsey Born Maybe the government new about this and tried covering this whole thing up in their own way!!! 😯

[@shelbylussier3881]

Detective goes to fancy department stores “have you seen this person?” Shows picture of unburnt back.

[@persephonepomegranate9652]

LOL

[@THE1THEYCALLJAH]

24:59 Shane: Can you overcome your timidity? Ryan: Extremely high pitched and shaky "yEs.. yea"

[@mukalal2160]

You guys missed one major detail. 32 Years after the woman's death, a man who was 26 at the time, came forward who claimed to have seen the woman days prior to her death. He said he saw her walking in the hiking trail not far from where she was found dead. As they walked passed each other, she seemed as if she wanted to say something to him, but was silenced into fear by 2 large men in black coats who were following her. Days after this, the man saw a sketch of the woman and contacted the police. However, he was waved off, and told by police to "Forget her, she was dispatched. The case will never be solved". Fearing that he'll be followed, he kept to himself until 2002.

[@JeremyBell97]

Nunacoow Mukalaal interesting.... where’d you hear this from? I’d love to look into it more-

[@mukalal2160]

Jeremy Bell it's in Norwegian, so I don't know if it's going to help: www.ba.no/drap/turgaer-motte-isdalskvinnen/s/1-41-1511766

[@alarocker]

make sure to put this on the facebook feed so they'll see it!

[@harliesmith886]

Sounds kind of like the video where they covered the 'Men In Black'. Two large men in black coats? I mean.. Sounds fishy to me lol

[@Freakydeakyslay]

Nunacoow Mukalaal ooh this is interesting. You need to point this out before they do the postmortem on this case!

[@LunaDelTuna]

Man, y'all really upping the stakes on the production value. Great job! :)

[@Nouratic]

I want to see them meet up with detectives and go head to head over a fake /staged crime scene to see which one of them is the better detective.

[@Effey08]

Agreed, except on the wig front. Dear lord, please rent decent wigs

[@kimmanalastas6632]

She swallowed the pills to make her sleepy so when she lit herself up she wouldnt roll over or run because of the pain she doesnt want to roll over because she wants her face burnt coz she doesnt want to be identified just my two cents.

[@nmo375]

oooo

[@alannaj1515]

Kim Manalastas oooooo that's a good theory! That actually makes sense as to why she was lit on fire!

[@bangchansbabygay4447]

Kim Manalastas but the pills weren’t absorbed into her blood stream

[@93midnightsunrise]

Sophia Biersack not all 70 of them, but they would have already started kicking in.

[@imo9193]

Sophia Biersack and she wouldnt have been able to light herself on fire if theyd been fully absorbed

[@WishYouWereQueer1]

Ok, so the weird "garlicky" smell really reminds me of Gloria Ramirez, the "toxic woman," and what happens when you're in ketosis, which I think some theorists think that Gloria Ramirez might have been because of her cancer medication... I wonder if there's something similar here, with her mysterious medications and unknown prescriptions...

[@taylor3234]

Anyone else getting Somerton Man vibes? Unidentifiable body, all labels removed, suitcase found at train station belonging to body, secret code in a book, odd death circumstances, suicide theories. Too many overlaps for me to lay it down as coincidence

[@SheIsntReal7]

My thoughts as well. Very similar! Edit: I don’t think they’re actually related, but it’s just super weird that they’re so similar.

[@nogussy]

The fact that the events are similar in some ways (this is ignoring the fact that there's a ridiculous amount of unknowns which questions the similarity) does not rule them as connected; these methods used might be simply the norm in the circumstances of these people, reason being is that they work. The fact that the bodies are so far from each other makes me think that yes it is a coincidence, and not necessarily very unlikely at that.

[@nomudnolotus4410]

Norway is better damn far from South Australia lol. I highly doubt theyre related.

[@taylor3234]

@@nomudnolotus4410 spy's travel around

[@nomudnolotus4410]

​@@taylor3234 I live in South Australia and actually went to school in Somerton funnily enough. The chances of some international spy being responsible for the crime there and the one in Norway too is extremely far-fetched and unlikely. Its not the sort of place where foreign spy types would go unnoticed.

[@CarRhydes]

Maybe she set herself on fire after taking the sleeping pills as a way to melt off her face, and keep her from being identified?

[@scoobysnactime]

MrRhysespieces I think someone knocked her out poured the pills down her throat the burned her so no one can identify her, probably after a deal gone bad

[@dirkeldritch4880]

But even so, why? Was it too painful for her to leave her family?

[@jos_lle]

MrRhysespieces same thought

[@zackarybeecher4377]

Max Johnson nah maybe somebody found her out and her only option was just to suicide in a way that would keep her identity unkown.

[@noelleirina5628]

I don't imagine the pills would have gone down so easily if she was unconscious. Swallowing pills is difficult enough. And there were more than 50, while she couldn't swallow? I don't see it happening

[@stickywhiskers]

My theory: She was being chased down and tried to kill herself, but whoever was coming after her got to her before she died and killed her themselves.

[@9one984]

Huh? Why would you kill someone that about to kill herself?

[@scottdancer94]

@@9one984 maybe the murderers didn't know she took the pills

[@kettlepetal3138]

Chloe J. Basically what I think. I believe she was being chased because of how frequently she was moving around. Maybe she took the pills herself as an attempt to go out in her own terms, yet the murderer still found her either before she died- and so killed her themselves- or afterwards- and burned her to prevent identification? And this is all assuming she was in fact a spy too. That would get the killer a motive; perhaps she held valuable info and thus she needed to be taken out. I don’t see how she could’ve burnt herself, there was nothing left behind that could’ve ignited the fire, thus suggesting someone else lit it.

[@hopehorinek]

Yes exactly, and maybe if people were able to identify her they could trace the murderer to her husband or someone else close to her.

[@bimobop]

Um

[@iamthatis25]

Clothing tags can help detectives a ton! There's a famous case covered by Forensic Files that was solved with the logo on the jean's fly button; it helped identify the woman's nationality, which lead to matching her to a missing persons report.

[@aconfusedshoe6240]

Why did she burn herself? To make her face unidentifiable duh.

[@sinphus]

A Confused Shoe kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKqvhWCDg9CmsMU

[@evieblythe2435]

I literally wait all week to watch two goofballs dissect a grizzly, unsolved murder case.

[@beautybeachbabe]

Evie Laurent I’m so dumb I thought you were talking about a grizzly bear being killed

[@tommyorr2332]

Listen to small town murder the podcast

[@evieblythe2435]

tommy orr I’ll check it out. Thanks!

[@conorpierce1669]

The Watcher: All me baby, all hail the watcher

[@ia6619]

Lmao that watcher case creeped me out because I live close to the town it happened in

[@roxyp7569]

Wow glad you covered this case. Only seen it covered twice. definitely had her ID hidden, and did a good job I guess since we still don't know And cutting tags off clothes is because stores nearby can give away someone's location. For example, someone wearing Ron Jon surf shop, they don't have a lot of stores, so this could help narrowing a location down

[@vainglory-faiththfulnerd3473]

Man it would be so nice if y’all had a show on netflix

[@momosa4112]

Then you would have to pay to watch

[@poppyoconnor2649]

they are on amazon prime and hulu

[@NeroWalker]

@@momosa4112 you pay for Internet and electricity.. This isnt free also

[@momosa4112]

@@NeroWalker in that case Netflix shouldn't charge me

[@gboi3500]

@@NeroWalker Thank you Mr.State the obvious!

[@ivymagallanes266]

Shane likes a plot that's thicker than a bowl of oatmeal

[@abbie_joan]

Or 3 layer bean dip

[@kittikat4124]

Or chowder, the thickest of the soups

[@beefurneyvall459]

*does that hand motion*

[@alyssaking3663]

Shane is my true form.

[@gibblez8981]

Shane likes his plots 乇乂ㄒ尺卂 ㄒ卄丨匚匚

[@atiqulislam6082]

What if they actually solved a mystery Shane:(wheeze),wait,that's illegal

[@HugheyFamily828]

The subtitled wheeze is an excellent addition.

[@electricisnotonfire_4078]

Uh this comment is at 420 likes so I can’t like it

[@ahmedf8965]

I find the removing of labels thing so interesting. Never realised how much info someone could obtain from this. Like, if someone was to examine my current wardrobe, they'd be able to find out I've recently been to Thailand and Germany.

[@AerCloud]

I wonder how well it works though. I own Japanese streetwear that my cousin had brought me from Harajuku. Would they realize that I didn't buy it and it was a gift 10 years ago? Or would they think that I went to Japan?

[@AndArrington]

*wheeze* by Shane *WHEEZE* by Ryan

[@NikNikNiken]

and.rosie I would buy those perfumes

[@shooglechic]

The vape sticks model names because have to be huffing SOMETHING lolol

[@yashmlhtr46]

What if this woman was a spy but she wasn't actually the one who is died. What if she found a woman who looked similar, planted her prints on those glasses and then killed her in a bizarre way to confuse the police. What if she did this just because she was in danger of being found as a spy and she did this to get people off her trail.

[@hollitowe9617]

yash malhotra oml plot twist😂❤

[@aidanvalcich5507]

and.rosie look at you with your celebrity boots