The Enigmatic Tambomachay: The Royal Inca Fountain of Pachacuti | Ancient Architects

[@AncientArchitects]

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[@trustme7660]

Thanks for sharing

[@chronosschiron]

just saying..humans wiht ability to think like you me and EINSTEIN have been around now for 350-450K years dont try and tell anyone its space fuckers ...just dont...on flipside it shows insights of past brilliance we lost along the way.

[@chronosschiron]

actually americans developed a way to date rock now did that a few years might want to look up that , its not cheap however so...ya

[@Balthazare69]

the turtle forgives u xD

[@EmeraldEyesEsoteric]

INCA are one of my favorite Civilizations in Civ 5 and Civ 6 and I have always played them with some early game conquests, and often settle cities in places a bit remote from the main empire in good locations where they evolve in mega cities. Good to know I'm playing them the right way.

[@lynderherberts2828]

Thank you so much for sharing this site with us. I have never seen it before. It is wondrously beautiful. God bless you. Stay safe and stay well. We love you.

[@inezgraer5482]

Thank you Matt. Sound was great!

[@Sausages111]

Excellent coverage! Thank you guys.

[@outcastoffoolgara]

Thanks Matt good to hear your precision and meticulous analysis. Your contribution to our understanding of the world is much appreciated. Stay well and keep the grey matter well fed.

[@ckotty]

So that you know, great respect and admiration from Spain. Please keep it up. 👍🏽😘

[@AncientArchitects]

Thank you

[@olemann77]

Another great video! However, its very interesting we have found human remains on the Andes altiplano atleast 9000 years old. Even then, thats not the first people there for sure, as the already had a culture and was mummifying their dead. This region needs so much more work.

[@matthewj3266]

Very much enjoying the focus on the Inca with these videos

[@ainsleystevenson9198]

I love your logical interpretations and honesty.

[@ravenfeader]

Very interesting to find a polygonal construction on Killke culture foundation . Great job.

[@AinSophAur]

I have been here, some years ago, as tourist. It was early morning, and the place has a very pleasant sensation of fresh air and humidity, differently from the surrounding area around it. And Cuzco city itself looks like an open up museum city. It is worthwhile just wandering around the downtown city looking at it while walking. Just a problem: you will need oxygen spray (I thought it was a joke and didn't do it, having not going more than 04 or 06 blocks and then gave it up, taking a cab to hotel: "soroche" is the name to this difficulty of breathing in, at a 3.500m altitude high. Coca leaves tea really seems to help out with it.

[@zr7699]

And they just happened to use the same exact style of polygonal building as all the other ancients of the world???

[@Arthen1]

it's a sturdy shape, which is important to have in seismically active regions so, you know, your building doesnt collapse 💀

[@Slavador2393]

Very impressive work Matt! You did your research and it showed! Like I said before, follow the water. Btw, my little chihuahua is named Mamapachacuti, lol.

[@AncientArchitects]

👍

[@paddysparrow4528]

If they were so advanced, don't you think they would make the turtle look more realistic or make it look more like a turtle so it's easy to see? Just a thought.

[@knightkhaos2484]

maybe, but they have been proven to do this with their terraced fields as well

[@JenniferMFalknor]

They probably painted features on them, and painted water to accent the “ripples” that the stone tiers make. I see a duck swimming behind the turtle, and with a little paint the whole mural would have been remarkable.

[@juliestockmeyer5871]

I sure hope you get to visit it someday!!! (And take us along, when you do!!) 😉 👍

[@debbralehrman5957]

Thank you for the updates on this site.

[@lumen8r]

Great stuff, as always.

[@alanderson9711]

Highest marks on this vid. Really enjoyed the older photos and your analysis. Pausing your vid at 9:32 I lookup at our patio wall and see a piece of stucco has fallen off. Just Like in your vid. Do you think some of these walls were “finished” like that to achieve such uniformity? Maybe a polymer>? ALL ideas apprediated

[@joeybox0rox649]

There is a section of this wall which appears to be "melted!" Please do an indepth analysis on that section of the wall.

[@AncientArchitects]

It’s towards the end of this video. 100% isn’t melted

[@iandalziel7405]

incorporated bedrock outcrop I think.

[@jamesfreeman3072]

Looking at the chunk of bedrock in the wall along with the chunk directionally over it on top of the wall it looks like a snake head along with a carved eye. Also the two waterfalls side by side resemble an open snake mouth with fangs.

[@JMM33RanMA]

I am sure that, though there's nothing to be done about it, Matt, the experts, most readers and I occasionally moan about the lack of written records. Without written records, so many things can not be explained by anything but, "It could be this, it could be that or even something else. I just don't know!" With Matt, the Hard Headed Sleuth of the Andes, We can rely on getting the facts and an occasional hypothesis, grounded in facts and science; and subject to change as new evidence warrants. Keep up the outstanding work Matt!

[@Greenninjadjh]

another solid effort

[@k.bowers8372]

The top work is much superior also having the false windows like other special places around Cusco leaving me to believe they were built for different purposes at a different time. There is no megalithic stonework or false windows incorporated into the bottom work or any other sights around Cusco where you see the obvious difference in craftsmanship and size of stone. Why would they do all the work for false windows only to do ugly work at the bottom.

[@lawrencearabia6074]

There are a lot of pre inca culture we can found in Perú. Chavin, Chimu, Mochica, Nazca and the amazing city of Caral. Hope to see a video about Caral.

[@davebremixes]

Great research and well presented. Did your research turn up a reason for the "nubs" which are present at many inka sites with similar "nubs" found in Egypt? Is there evidence of nubs at Tambomachy as I couldn't see from the images. The pyramids were built before any inka building and yet the curious nubs are at both locations? Thanks for sharing 👍

[@Digital__rb]

My thought is that back then they had exponential growth in stone working abilities and water management, navigation & math, they probably had sail boats that could cross the ocean and were a globally connected civilization, so stone working methods made it all over the world

[@Digital__rb]

6,000-3,000 years ago earth must have been a real magical place to live, psychedelics used by everyone, riding elephants, walking lions on leashes, gliders made of light wood and fabric, amazing stone working methods, all food was completely natural, human and nature coexisting but still meeting all the basic needs

[@davebremixes]

@@Digital__rb If Matt is correct (and there's nothing to suggest he isn't) then some of these Inka builder "clans" had access to building knowledge which lead them to create identical "nubs" on some of the stones which match those found at other sites. This would support his idea that the Inka built everything. I still feel that the Inka replicated polygonal stone work based on existing examples but of course I can't prove this. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@davebremixes]

@@Digital__rb Sounds great! Where do I sign up 👍

[@Digital__rb]

@@davebremixes if you find out where to sign up let me know lmao

[@DrinkTheKoolAid62]

The Inca themselves said they didn't build much of what we attribute to them

[@AncientArchitects]

Well, apparently some unknown Inca person told an unknown Spanish soldier, who told some chronicler, who apparently wrote it down and it was paraphrased by Hiram Bingham. The latter seems to be our only reference to this and it's still hearsay. And it's related only to Sacsayhuaman, which does have origins in the Killke culture. I'm yet to see any source that says the megaliths of Cusco were 'found' by the Inca.

[@alanderson9711]

Do you have a source for that, Mark?

[@mccraeday5809]

@@alanderson9711 no, he says what we think are wrong and false sources. Then he says his word is absolute lol.

[@mccraeday5809]

His research aint actually speaking Spanish with a native Incan Wisdom keeper. He is reading what he is from a white mans book.

[@rexxbailey2764]

@@mccraeday5809 : LOLS ROFL !! TRUE : D

[@RockStarholic]

The question of resources being available to perform the work was never in doubt, what is in doubt though is the knowledge to produce polygonal masonry. Until that question is answered no one will be able to address Peruvian history in any meaningful way.

[@ashevilleaugmentedrealityq1777]

Very informative work. It would seem the evidence of this being work of different cultures is there in your video. Comparing the tight fitting and smooth textured quality of some work; to the less tight fitting rougher stonework to me says it all. This would also explain why the rougher stonework that is less tight fitting allows plants growth between blocks, which is not evident in the tighter fitting blocks. If one culture had the opportunity to make all the work of the better quality it seems they would, especially one fixated on pleasing the gods/kings.

[@martinrichardolsen7067]

Very very nice, episode! And nice turtles!

[@Zuckerpuppekopf]

I recall one guide at Tambomachay describing the site, in particular the fountain area, as a water stop for messengers and other runners who regularly ran across the Inca Empire for one officious reason or another. I am sure there may have been other purposes, but it would seem likely since the Empire had many runners regularly spanning the length and breadth of the land, that having convenient, well defined, water stops for their runners would be essential, say about every 10-20 miles or so.

[@shermanatorosborn9688]

The missing pieces of the puzzle have a very distinctive shape and importance .

[@shermanatorosborn9688]

Ask yourself What are we REALLY looking for ??

[@larsfrosznielsen3536]

I wonder if they painted the figures on the wall to highlight the stone figures. Have there been found any fracments of paint anywhere? A very interesting place indeed

[@StephiSensei26]

Just lovely!

[@dougg1075]

Impressive research. Great video

[@ArcticWindbutimnotwr]

Interesting research on Manta st / swamp. I’m looking forward to a refutation from the pre-Inca proponents.

[@mccraeday5809]

Yea cause a swamp turns to hard dry land to have massive hundred ton foundations stones in less than a year.... Obviously not the case

[@GrinninPig]

Are there any surviving later Olmec stone structures with similar masonry?

[@VibrationsfromMirror]

Ol(d) MEC ( Mec means Man or Chico ) Where do we get the term olmec? Seemingly giants, yet elongated skulls are found.

[@GrinninPig]

@@VibrationsfromMirror iirc olmec means "rubber people" in some later native language but I wonder what they called themselves?

[@azoteapost8734]

Hi. Thanks for this in incredible series on Peru After three years, your videos are Still extremely well-made. But I can’t stop thinking that the Menkure pyramid casing stones are extremely and I said extremely similar to what Cusco and this other sites of Peru are build of. it’s so strange and at the same time so similar.

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

One thing we know for sure, they were the world’s first in making jigsaw puzzles……absolutely making stone work, and I still feel there was a civilisation much much older….

[@dougcard5241]

They?

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

@@dougcard5241 yes, they

[@dougcard5241]

@@More-Space-In-Ear They being some civilization that lived here 50kya or 15kya? You and no one else has knowledge which time frame. Could have been 250kya.

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

@dougcard5241 I'd go from about 10,800 years, during or just after younger dryas

[@dougcard5241]

@@More-Space-In-Ear After 15kya is of course the most likely as something over 50kya is probably another 20 feet down or more weathered.

[@wayneisanamerican]

I have to say, that you are the most even minded and realistic of all the "amateur" archaeologists out there. You should pair up with Mike Haddack a stone mason in Pennsylvania who tends to mirror many of your thoughts and actually has modern experience with working with stones. Thanks for your efforts.

[@gregsmith1719]

Thanks for the photos and your ideas. But I think you are missing the bigger picture, the longer ages, and different "cultures."

[@AncientArchitects]

Don’t see any evidence for an older culture. And if you research the geography of the city of Cusco, with the land between two rivers and the huge swamp, you’ll quickly see that no megalithic structures could be built at Cusco until the canal system was installed. This was done in early Inca times.

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

''Manco Capac sank his golden rod into the swamp'' Enuma Elish come's to mind. Most interesting.

[@AncientArchitects]

👍

[@tassiotrevizor5556]

hi Matt, I respect your work A LOT! but I'm afraid you're falling in love with proving your point on "rocks being the same age, same culture, different purpose"...and by that, you're letting the open mind (needed in this subject) be the star of your research! Again, you are very very appreciated, I just wish you can put things in perspective and realize that we know very little about those sites. Keep on with the amazing work, be humble and open minded! take care!!!

[@Digital__rb]

Hes talking about what we DO know

[@denizinan6253]

I watch this video but haven't read all of the comments. An interesting thing I noticed is the use of the word "suyu" at the end of each area on your Inca empire's map. I was raised in Turkey and the word "Su" in Turkish translates to water, "Suyu" means juice, "Suyum" means "my water". I found it very strange that the two languages from such different parts of the world would use the same pronunciation for region names related to water. What do you think.?

[@BlackStarEOP]

Well, since the first boat we know of is from 8000BC (Pesse canoe) I think it's not too far-fetched that our ancestors crossed the world. Long before Columbus was even a thought.

[@sharieloutullett2020]

Sooo interesting, thanks

[@williamshafer9110]

To me the chunk of bedrock looks like a lizard head. You can see an eye with a defined eye browe. A lower jaw and upper jaw that is split with egonlated stones. Thank you for doing this research.

[@christinavance3691]

Yes. That is exactly what I saw. A big lizard head with a distinct eye, mouth/jaw and neck.

[@od1452]

You may be correct about the "Turtles" in the walls.. but humans see faces and animals in the clouds too. Considering how long the average person lived, could some style changes have been generational? Thanks for the really good overview .

[@joshuahinman9328]

How do you explain the polygonal construction throughout the world even in Egypt at the great pyramids not just in South America?

[@AncientArchitects]

Well, maybe a megalithic culture migrated through time, travelling and settling and spreading their knowledge, or cultures simply developed the style independently.

[@claudiaxander]

Brilliant research re: dating, cheers!

[@AncientArchitects]

Cheers

[@PawelJimmi]

18:42 Looks like Dome of the Rock

[@neoclassic09]

I think the Inca did all the stonework except for some of the flat carvings out of rock walls. They did some, I'm sure, but that one doorway up in the mountains seems so different than their other stuff, and if you look at the bottom stone with the lines that the water falls over in this location (with the nubs on each side) it looks like it's eroded differently, and was something the rest was built around, or even it was moved to that spot.

[@historybuff7491]

I will point out that I never saw the animal shapes in the walls until you pointed them out in your various videos. Now that I have seen them, I can't unsee them. I see the stone walls and I see the shapes. I will admit, that long before this, I had seen the walls and thought it interesting that the pattern of the stones stood out, in that there was not a pattern. I am not sure the animal shapes were meant by the builders, but I am equally not sure they were not meant...i.e. they were meant.

[@iandalziel7405]

The stones may have also been painted selectively to highlight patterns and shapes...

[@dononthetube2]

Upload to odyssey as a backup and alternative to KZbin, is worth considering

[@penneyburgess5431]

Just thinking about stone masonry, what little I know of it. Even today different kind and size of stones used in various applications of building fences, walls, fireplaces, steps all used together on single projects because they are the best choice for that particular purpose. It is not difficult to assume the Inca’s were just as proficient in their building choices. I have noticed that larger stone poly structures are for retaining walls, outer perimeter walls for security and doorways. The smaller stones seem to be used for design purposes that require little structure purpose. There’s no reason to believe that they came from different times at all. BTW, the turtle idea is fantastic.

[@AncientArchitects]

There is a lot to consider. Many variables. There are many many styles of Inca masonry as you say!

[@EEVENEEVEN-vb5qy]

Unlike Brian Forester, who's channel I really really like, I have to totally agree with you.

[@iandalziel7405]

@@EEVENEEVEN-vb5qy - is this Brian Forester guy you like as good as Brien Foerster?

[@XLA-zg1nn]

would you do Puma Punku

[@gregsmith1719]

Matthew - Please get Closed Captions - I can hardly understand what you are saying. Thanks!

[@fldon2306]

Thought it was called Baños del Inca. Either way, amazing place to visit above Cuzco. A sign nearby says Altura Apróx. 3765msnm., or about 12,352 above sea level. Take your Soroche pills and keep drinking Coca Tea!! We do see more precise stonework, emphasizing square stones where royals areas are, such as Qorikancha, Machu Picchu Royal rooms, etc.

[@AtkinsAtelier]

Ok so how did they cut this rock? Great video again man.

[@Alex-um4fe]

So these massive walls are just billboards?

[@pedrom2236]

The common pronunciation of ceque is sé-ke, as said in this video, though in correct quechua it is probably something more like sí-ki or "seekee".

[@stage1greg]

what about the t-rex head above the chunk of bedrock @20:00? i'm more concerned about that haha.

[@tomrichardson1426]

Wonderful! Keep up the great work. P.S. I saw the head of an alligator not a turtle.

[@AncientArchitects]

Oooh - interesting

[@iandalziel7405]

But is it 'Alligators all the way down'? ;- )

[@OnlyAFoolsHope]

The Inca do have uniquely talented masonry techniques, my only question is how did they make the stones? Some are many tons and we today would need cranes to move. The Spanish themselves marvelled at their masonry and thought it inconsistent with the level of technology the Inca displayed at the time, yet they still completely conquered them. We know that domesticated animals were few and too small to move the massive stones, and the Inca routinely carried supplies on their heads and travelled many miles/day on foot, as the wheel was not yet invented in the time of the "proto Inca". Such an inferior status for a people who could build such things as Saqsayuaman.

[@mankuqhapaqii4798]

There's no tech tree requiring peoples who develop in entirely different landmasses to develop the same things at the same time or in the same order. The wheel is completely useles in the Incan homeland, so the Incas not using the wheel is not a valid argument. Now, Incan masonry is not inconsistent with the level of tech displayed by the Incas at all. (And the Spanish did not think that, like you claim. It was racist priests who arrived decades later and did not want to credit Amerindians) The Incas cut stone with stone itself, and they were able to produce such wonders due to the Tawantinsuyu's extremely efficient labor system. And there has been enough archaeological evidence to debunk the extremely naive claims made by some racist conspiranoics for decades. I've even seen some people stating that the so called "Killke" culture built Sacsayhuaman just to not give credit to the Inca, but these people forget that the Killke themselves (Who only built small settleents with rustic arquitecture) were one of the many groups of pre-Imperial Incas and did not have the means to produce the fortress.

[@OnlyAFoolsHope]

@@mankuqhapaqii4798 read the Spanish friars codex of the time. They very much did think the masonry was superior to theirs calling it "unrivaled". Sure, Spanish "historians" invented myths to make foreigners seem, primitive. But even a shameless conquering force can appreciate the work of their enemies. After all, they're still standing.

[@BlackStarEOP]

@@mankuqhapaqii4798 Until you can provide solid evidence, his guess is as good as yours and mine.

[@theFLCLguy]

What the hell is a whacker? Do you mean spring or well? Because I've never heard the term whacker.

[@AncientArchitects]

Wak’a aka huaca

[@iandalziel7405]

Those cunning Inca decided not to use English I guess...

[@QalOrt]

The Mita system used by the Inca - a form of labour tax similar to what the Ancient Egyptians used to get workers to build the Pyramids - would draw workers from all across the Empire and transport them to where projects were needed to be done. So it wouldn't be surprising for the Emperor to call upon stone masons from say the North to work on say a palace in the mountains of the East. Hence you are correct that there is no set Incan Architectural style as they drew upon the architectural styles of their citizens.

[@68Mie]

Did anyone notice that the water fall look like two fangs of a puma? The upper part is lost...

[@CosmosGwelf]

The alcoves look like sealed doors

[@mrt6393]

Great attempt at the video...dont agree at all with your view that the different stone styles where due to a dispersed empire with diff groups doing it in diff. styles. As you yourself explained , in one site there were 3 styles at Tambomachay. Given that there is no evidence that Incas had discovered the wheel, and were at best a Copper culture, to produce the stonework that is at Sacsayhuaman or in the streets of cusco would not have been possible by them. To state that since its there they must have done it, is what you are implying.

[@theplastolithicpast8257]

You forgot to mention that platform across the stream... the one with the very obvious cataclysmic heat damage and the inner wall made out of concrete which survived the blast ;-)

[@AncientArchitects]

Which one is that?? Have you got a link? I don’t think there have been any cataclysmic blasts in the past 500 years 😉

[@theplastolithicpast8257]

@@AncientArchitects The platform where most of the photos were taken from. I think you commented on some pics I shared of it on twitter. I have found more detailed pics and it's truly bizarre. You're 100% correct that there have been no cataclysms in the past 500 years... which makes sense since the Inca discovered and renovated those structures :-)

[@AncientArchitects]

I doubt it :)

[@theplastolithicpast8257]

@@AncientArchitects The polygonal stonework predates the Inca by about 3-4000 years

[@AncientArchitects]

Based on??

[@trustme7660]

There’s so much we don’t know

[@AncientArchitects]

Also a lot we do know but it’s stuck inside dusty old books and in archaeological papers

[@trustme7660]

@@AncientArchitects i can’t wait till light gets shined on our past.

[@donmitchell2367]

If the Inca had the tools to cut the stone, then why not? I thought the point was that the Inca did not have the tools for the job?

[@arapahoe7326]

I’m kind of surprised that you still believe the Inca built all this

[@AncientArchitects]

I’m still surprised people don’t after doing a bit of research. Did you know that Cusco was too wet and a large part of it was a swamp before 1200 AD? No megalithic remains could have been built on such ground between 2 rivers prone to flooding and swampy land. The rivers were canalised around 1250. Nothing major could have been build until after then.

[@matttriano]

@@AncientArchitects 1200AD is still over 10,000 years after the global cataclysms of the Younger Dryas which changed climate drastically: temperature, precipitation and placement of rivers, lakes and ocean shorelines. These megalithic ruins are impossible to date themselves, as you know, so the last people who used this site would have left the most recent organic material to be dated: the Inca.

[@matttriano]

@@TheMoneypresident The sea levels rose by 400 feet with combined Meltwater pulses A & B permanently covering 1/3 of Earth's coastlines; Meltwater pulses A produced a thousand foot flood of melted Laurentide glacier which washed over North and Central Americas in two weeks, carving the landscape on which Canadians & Americans live today, a literal new world. The Younger Dryas is punctuated by massive extinction events at the beginning and end, a cumulative 3/4 of the world's megafauna went extinct from 12800-11600 BP. The Sahara used to be a rain forest, today it's the most foreboding dessert on the planet. I could go on. What do you mean?

[@matttriano]

@@TheMoneypresident Randall isn't a poor resource but you might need more mainstream sources first, so I'd read some Robert Schoch, Laird Scranton, Robert Bauval and consult the COMET RESEARCH GROUP. Those are good places to start. I'm sorry the cataclysmic past terrifies you to the extent that you'd deny the past to protect your concept of the relative present. Hit me more emojis!

[@matttriano]

@@TheMoneypresident I'm sorry yours failed you so greatly. You should probably do some big work on yourself. You won't. Please keep showing your entire ass to this page, it's amusing me.

[@NICULAEVEGA]

I like more now how you are more open and not so closed to your own thoughts, little evidence is not always fact, some time it needs much evidence to say this it is fact.. I like the way you expressed now your point not being absolute..

[@apocosy]

I love how people ( the more educated the worse it is) make assumptions based on our present day perspective about a civilization lost in time. We have little idea why, how or what they did. I highly doubt everything is a temple or sacred site and should not be labeled as such just because you don't know what it is. By all means, keep researching, but stick to facts not assumptions and propaganda.

[@AncientArchitects]

No assumptions or propaganda. Based on text written by Peruvian nobles, albeit just after the Spanish conquest who wrote histories of the Inca. guaman poma wrote a lot about Inca rituals. + the Inca Coricancha altar explains a lot - it’s a work in progress but an Inca descendent in the 16th century drew it and annotated it, explaining their rituals and beliefs.

[@apocosy]

@@AncientArchitects 1:05 inca discovered irrigation? , 8:15 - 8:45 ruler would have drafted the best? ,etc,etc. Are these facts or are they assumptions?

[@sorcerersofstone]

Matt, just because pottery shards are found at a site does not mean the culture that created the pottery built the site. Other cultures could have come later and built on the site or left offerings there. This is a common fallacy that seems to get repeated over and over again. Just because the Inca were doing later construction on the site does not make them the builders of the Megalithic walls either. There bronze and copper tools were not strong enough to cut andesite or hardened limestone. Also, resent studies by a Russian team point to the megalithic stones as being geopolymers and the chemistry and composition of the rocks shows that to be the case.

[@gfplv]

I propose a drinking game! Every time you hear a word "strukcha" you take a sip, every time you hear a word "sarcophagus" you take a shot... lets be drunk and educated :D

[@jasonpapai73]

The human brain can make shapes out of any pattern

[@pabloverri3806]

Spanish translation of the video !!! please

[@AncientArchitects]

I can email you the script and you can put it into Google translate? Email me at [e-mail]

[@DaDa-kf4vp]

So have you concluded that polygonal masonry is for a fact Inca work?

[@AncientArchitects]

Yes... I can't find any reason to doubt it. Cusco was a wetland and a large part of it was a swamp until 1250(ish) AD. The area was canalised by the 2nd Sapa Inca and then and only then could you lay the foundations of a city on the thin strip of land between two rivers.

[@DaDa-kf4vp]

@@AncientArchitects I only ask because of the striking similarity to the polygonal masonry in other parts of the world. Do you reckon that the Inca were one part of a greater civilization that was spread across the world/one of many civilizations which had similar technical skills as far are construction is concerned?

[@CynicalCreator]

@@AncientArchitectsseriously, the exact style of polygonal stonework is global and pretty much always on the bottom, many cases mainstream dated back at least 1000s of years, malta, cambodia, india, egypt, persepolis, japan, greece, italy, even easter island, its everywhere dude, its logically impossible for the entire globe to forget how it was done without a complete reset cataclysm

[@iandalziel7405]

@@AncientArchitects - I think the trouble I have with this, is it that this is a vast amount of extensive monumental construction to do in just 100+ odd years. They may have found a wetland - but it may not have always been so - weather and rainfall can change, rivers can change course (especially in seismically active areas like this and the Andes are pushing up rather quickly in geological time) . This article looked interesting but I don't have access: www.jstor.org/stable/3673971 and I thought this was helpful too... www.worldhistory.org/Cuzco/

[@Arthen1]

@@DaDa-kf4vpif you lived in a seismically active region, you'd want to make your house secure so it doesn't fall apart, no? polygons are practical and secure shapes. its really not that deep.

[@jamp12008]

I’ve got to say this. Wak’a is brilliant name to call something. Inca dude: What we calling this lads? Some Incan mad lad: wak’a. Me. Watching KZbin: I’ve got an idea.

[@AncientArchitects]

Haha

[@jamp12008]

@@AncientArchitects you’re a good dude. You always reply to my nonsense 🤣👍

[@VibrationsfromMirror]

@@jamp12008 wa- like in wa-shington, seems to go way back. so wa and KA like the Ka and the Ba? Humm not so nonsense ) Cherokee Thank You = Wado.

[@VibrationsfromMirror]

wa in China ENtrusting person! Or, I just found also means Dwarf! Elongated, short folks? )

[@kennymichaud5366]

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think those stone blocks were poured into place like a thick mud. One block would form to the next block and fit exactly, except for the front where it would bulge out. No need for mortar. On some of the face of blocks you can see where it looks like it was pushed back in with something ( the small rectangular imprints) in some of the stone faces

[@CivilShepherd]

That bedrock looks like the head of a turtle or a frog

[@joelkavanagh1464]

8:22 th red wall to breakany wave ,, ...

[@carlosrobado]

Hi, If you look carefully you can see a man and a woman laying below the turtle or the dome, or cave...maybe it is just my imagination... Or maybe there are different levels of symbolic representations.

[@patrickfranklin108]

In your constant opinion of things…..WHAT TOOLS WHERE USED??

[@AncientArchitects]

I’m not going to make assumptions without looking into it further. I’ll get to it

[@patrickfranklin108]

@@AncientArchitects whats to assume if you know who built them?

[@AncientArchitects]

Stone hammers and flint then I suppose. I don’t know about specific Inca stone working techniques as I’ve not researched the technical aspects of the cutting but there must have been some work done on this subject. I believe the researcher Protzen has written a lot on this.

[@patrickfranklin108]

@@AncientArchitects read protzen’s take and few others….Bro!!……There’s a lot more to these sites and others around the world don’t add up!!…..Keep up the digging and always tell the truths!!

[@VibrationsfromMirror]

The HEAD above the sculpted rock and sitting above the "natural rock" in the middle IS, I think, a petrified creature. The cut out around the "eye" area is super peculiar though. Close with the Turtle ) IF a snake, then the bird head could be part of the snake design leading up to it.

[@VibrationsfromMirror]

Birds peck holes ( find water) snakes were not always on belly, so it reads )

[@digofthedump]

maybe older than you have been known too! look at how the continent is folding under s/america pulling the land with it !! maybe they were one in a fresh water lake?? gl

[@peacefulprotest7382]

I see two forms of stone work. one is highly advanced and one not so advanced. It looks like the Inca found it and built on it.

[@mankuqhapaqii4798]

The Inca made both.

[@mankuqhapaqii4798]

Actually some of the most lazy looking stonework found in Incan sites were attempts at reconstruction made by the Spanish. Lol.

[@RedSkysAreOnFire]

i wonder how the western region is supposed to be pronounced.

[@doom75x84]

They had no math how could you build anything like that?

[@JenniferMFalknor]

I see a duck swimming behind the turtle.

[@peterhorne7203]

The 'turtles' stand out quite nicely!

[@AncientArchitects]

I thought so. Debatable and a bit out there but the Inca were an artistic culture amongst other things!

[@peterhorne7203]

@@AncientArchitects Whatever the Inca were trying to portray; the designs are no accident.

[@pauldaystar]

Not Open to Debate if you Listen to All the Tribal Elders for the Last 300+ years instead of Corrupt Govt

[@fredfishfred]

i always loved you older videos thay left me thinking and wondering . sadly now you have read a milion books your mindset has moved and im left wondering should i unsubribe or will it become fun again with less talk of sacred, ceremonial gumph

[@AncientArchitects]

I only mention ceremonial with regards to Inca, because Inca descendants have stated it on record.

[@fredfishfred]

@@AncientArchitects hi thanks for reply i think of wispers from person to person change the contest and the words in one study i saw the message was totaly differnt thro just 25 people .so i wouldnt call it reliable or dependable thinking we know somthing is the quickest way to close the mind so if we are wrong we will be wrong forever

[@iandalziel7405]

@@fredfishfred "thinking we know something is the quickest way to close the mind" - this seems to describe your position not Matt's? His thinking has evolved as new information and connections come to light...

[@fredfishfred]

@@iandalziel7405 hi the problem with your coment is i didnt make any statment that would give away my poision ? i just aired my thorts on matts channel direction with the sacred ceromony stuff that gets used to offen to decribe anything we dont understand im not saying its all wrong but like wispers it might be misleading taking oral storys word for word . its also funny how desendants of culturs all around the world talk of grand nonuments being bilt for ceromonys but never explaning how thay were made or moved also wile on the subject in another of matts videos he talk about how the incas decendants say the runins of such places were there before they arived . that would seem like the words of the desendants are being altered to fit in this video so in just one person the story has changed slightly imagin how many people that its passed through before now ...

[@michaelfranklin3977]

Rocks look like scales

[@whipplelicks]

looks like you havent done enough research,inca work is crude,pre inca has the amazing softening of the stones,with the tight fits and angles

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

There are houses on my street with nice dressed stone fronts & brick behinds. Separate culture's are not responsible for this.

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

The brickwork is Flemish too. But we know that British / Irishmen built them.

[@raichuraichu7632]

Lmao such a stupid comparison

[@anvilbrunner.2013]

@@raichuraichu7632 Look pokemon spaz. You're the actual frootloop . Never say in comments sections that you couldn't say to the face. What is it in your ignoramus juvenile dung for a brain. Ancient aliens no doubt. Thicket.

[@dmh0667ify]

Interesting.....Pachacuti tore down and built over the older civilization, then the Spaniards built over his works. Sort of like how the Islamic folks built over the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, and how they built over Indian Hindu sites......because they could.

[@ChildlezzCatlady]

👍🏼

[@wrenchofpower]

Wow