The Epilogue is The Most Underrated Part of RDR2

spoilers I just got done with my first playthrough of Red Dead Redemption 2 and I think that The Epilogue and American Venom is EXTREMELY underrated! The transition from Arthur Morgan to John Marston is great. High Honor or Low Honor - This ending is satisfying.
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[@tyler361t2]

please add timestamps

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@@tyler361t2 will do!

[@tyler361t2]

@@PremoSaysThings awesome, dyk how?

[@shariqhaider1225]

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[@matthewstout6798]

Epilogue is not overrated you clown. The missions and Sadie totally kill it.

[@justaloadofash]

Sometimes I wish Red Redemption 1 wasn't Canon just so John can get a happy ending

[@Gabriel-brasilpoorforever]

He had the option to have a happy ending but he threw it in the trash, taking revenge on Micah

[@kliphord123X]

@@Gabriel-brasilpoorforever okay and? was that exactly a bad thing that Rockstar Games took this direction despite what happens at the end of John this was a good story direction and for John's character.

[@ajd69]

@@kliphord123X what part of his comment indicated that it was a bad thing

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

"Revenge is a fool's game"@@Gabriel-brasilpoorforever

[@D14MBK]

That would go completely against the themes of the story if John had a happy ending

[@danstevens6515]

Skinner’s were lucky that Uncle had Lumbago

[@giornogiovanna3079]

John is Uncles Lumbago confirmed ?🤯🤯

[@BucketIHead]

Its a terminal condition

[@randomracoon8467]

The WoWN ShaWt KIEd

[@V1DAR22]

Or get him in his prime as the 1 shot kid he'd solo that whole gang

[@Ihaveachicken]

He would’ve soloed the entirety of the Pinkertons

[@max_vtv]

"I gave you all I had" still hits hard in 2024.

[@saintofgayfrogs]

And the coward Dutch couldn't even come up with something to say.

[@TheRealChappers]

People love to hate the skinner brothers for capturing uncle however all they we're doing to uncle was trying to cure his lumbago

[@juicebox7372]

😂😂

[@DonutGuard]

They were trying to help him burn off some fat.

[@ashleygris]

The proposal mission never fails to make me cry

[@PremoSaysThings]

I might of gotten choked up editing this idk

[@HughJayness-pd5hn]

I’ve never cried to anything in this game although I almost did yo aurthors death. Honestly I hate Abagail. She a bitch

[@patchyjack5040]

@@PremoSaysThingsmight have

[@ja-qwellin]

​@@patchyjack5040 might of

[@mugengamerorsomethingidk4190]

...might have skipped it. i wanted to get max dead eye sry :(

[@spencerhaabs]

Best part of the game is riding back to shady belle after you get off the boat from Cuba …..I mean gwarma

[@Undead616]

You mean Tahiti

[@Uncle228]

@@Undead616you mean Australia

[@WILMANGO681]

You mean guarma

[@GlitchStock]

@@Uncle228you mean New York?

[@Blobfish-e2v]

You mean Timbuktu

[@lillyanderson6338]

Idk why but "..... I ain't.. got too much to say anymore..." is one of the most poetic lines I've ever heard in a game

[@MatheusBrasil-q7j]

Especially coming from Dutch of all people

[@haydenrhead7692]

@@MatheusBrasil-q7jthe man that never stopped running his mouth

[@illuminate8979]

Ran his mouth for 20 years all to come to the realization that he was just speaking nothing.

[@chadtrickthereal]

Turn you haven't heard alot of the dialouge

[@Aganie.]

"John...I had a plan...."

[@chubbs7872]

I really felt micha was so clearly the bad guy it would turn out to be like a red herring. I was kinda waiting to be surprised not that he WAS the rat but rather he WASN’T.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Interesting perspective! You are a better reader of people than me for sure. Thanks for the great comment. I appreciate it!

[@garrin1220]

It would have been interesting if it had turned out that Dutch had sold out his people.

[@Rebelgoose]

I feel you may have missed the point of the story. It’s not really about who the rat was but rather who Dutch chooses to trust. his friend of 20 years who’s doubting him (with Dutch’s own good in mind) or a guy he’s known for 6 months, is a piece of shit. Micah NEVER questions Dutch, but instead just goes ”let’s go boss” at every request Dutch has,

[@Rebelgoose]

It just goes to show that Dutch is losing it

[@microwavelesley6233]

I played RDR2 as a prequel to RDR1 knowing nothing about the plot besides what the name implied. I genuinely thought Abigail was the traitor because of how they mentioned her getting away in Saint Denis. Just seemed too convenient. I thought she had a deal with the law to keep her and Jack safe at the cost of the gang. And Micah seemed, as you said, way too obvious. Obviously doesn’t make sense if you know the plot of the first game but it made sense with no other context.

[@OfficialKirby]

“Just you left, is it?” “Yeah, just me.” With American Venom in the background Is enough to explain why the epilogue is so good

[@Elegent_Death]

i think i would have cried even more in the scene when John asks Abigail to marry him if he said " It would mean a lot to me." That would really show how much Arthur's sacrifice meant to john.

[@PremoSaysThings]

That would be mind blowing. Wow.

[@jakas2524]

@@PremoSaysThings no, it would be goofy 💀💀proposing and having to leave someone to die has NO parallels, and john is his own man with his own words isn't he

[@neogextreme_]

boy shut up@@jakas2524

[@JavierEscuella1899]

​@@jakas2524agreed

[@jackthemac132]

Too cheesy

[@everettgaspar3482]

I love how the whole game you're denied every chance at a satisfying confrontation with any of the main villains. Colm, Cornwall, Bronte and even Milton get unsatisfying deaths that really just leave you disappointed and hollow feeling. But it all changes in the final confrontation with Micah. He's the only one that you get to personally pump full of lead for what he's done and it beautifully releases all that satisfaction that you were denied throughout the whole game.

[@volandblack666]

Colm’s death was actually satisfying, as the last thing he saw before getting hanged was Arthur waving him goodbye

[@PremoSaysThings]

good point

[@NobleBoss]

You atleast get to kill the Sheriff Gray after Sean is killed

[@antthomas7916]

I would argue that Bronte and Colm's deaths were both pretty satisfying, at least to me. I would agree that Milton's death was pretty lackluster, though. I would also agree that Micha's was the most satisfying death in the game. No other "final boss" fight has given me the same feeling I got after shooting Micah in the balls 6 times.

[@Lay.s.]

Colm's death is satisfying, Arthur taunts him and Sadie gets to see the man that ruined her die

[@leotheskyguy]

I’m a John Marston fanboy. RDR1 and RDR2 are my favourite games of all time. John is my favourite protagonist ever after Indiana Jones and the epilogue of RDR2 is incredible for me. It’s literally pure fantasy service for us RDR1 fanboys and it’s not rushed or anything. It’s really well done. The full story of John Marston at least for me, is the greatest story in gaming.

[@PremoSaysThings]

This was awesome to read. Just an awesome comment. I’m happy to share the enthusiasm about a character. Cool profile pic too! Thanks for the comment. Thanks for watching.

[@verdun16]

RDR1 has the greatest story in gaming in my opinion . I too am a John fanboy

[@SturtH9]

This 100%. It’s incredibly well written, satisfying story telling, and character development that takes us nicely into the beginning of RDR1.

[@ArjunB5]

Then you gotta realize how nerfed and out of character John acts in the epilogue

[@WhiteMonkey2004]

I like it but to say it isn't rushed is cope take a good look at John's character model

[@Lafuerza_V]

The epilogue was freaking incredible, if anything I wish it was longer

[@PremoSaysThings]

Honestly wish they just made rdr1 into rdr2 lowkey they would never need to make a remaster of the game

[@AMARTmtz]

To think of how insane it would have been if the end of RDR2 transitioned into the beginning of a remastered RDR1. Oh my…

[@dickfitzenwell8186]

Yeah, but the facial hair-growth bug was never fixed.

[@MARYWTHER]

I wish it had more content, yeah. Like more random encounters of people Arthur met, or even the gang as a whole. I really wish we could've met more old gang members just by really looking.

[@HypocritesExposd]

Exactly the same sentiment here. When you can continue playing the epilogue with nothing more missions to complete, I felt so empty inside, feeling like I wanted more. RDR1 is great, but John being forced into the situation and being away from home sucks so much.

[@Motordeth]

The emotion I felt when the American venom music kicked in was amazing one of the most emotional part in a video game I’ve ever played

[@vince7207]

The fact it repeats score from RDR as well is amazing.

[@krrishivk0428]

Exactly 💯 ❤

[@benjaminbjorn7240]

I think John’s short life as a rancher after the epilogue is something we’ve always dreamed of in the real world.

[@Mr.OswaldOfDallas]

This is genuinely one of the best rdr2 videos ive watched

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thank you for the wonderful comment. I appreciate it

[@ajuister]

Definitely gonna post in the subreddit

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@@ajuister let me know how that goes!

[@Argon69noice]

​@@PremoSaysThings it didn't go well I got tuberculosis from the reddit 😮

[@Argon69noice]

Lol 😅😂

[@bigchoppa783]

The saddest part to me of Abigail leaving is she couldn’t have possibly written that note without help. Jack is already constantly in the middle of their two bickering, and now he has to write this note to his own father from his mother. Jack Marston has got one of the saddest stories in a real-world setting.

[@PremoSaysThings]

I was so touched by John’s story. It makes you wonder if we got the full John video game in rdr2 graphics who people would like more

[@GlitchStock]

“A kind lady in town helped me write this letter”

[@bigchoppa783]

@@GlitchStock I’m a giant fool. A real doofus. A buffoon. Jack’s story is still sad. Just not at all for the reason I wrote 🤣

[@GlitchStock]

@@bigchoppa783don’t sweat it lol but yeah jacks story is depressing in hindsight

[@SouthernFeller]

@@GlitchStockAnd Jack sees everyone he loves die

[@Jobe-13]

I absolutely love the Epilogue of Rdr2. It’s a whole other Red Dead game of it’s own. I really wish John had listened to Abigail.

[@PremoSaysThings]

That is such truth. Thanks for the great comment. Really appreciate it.

[@Jobe-13]

@@PremoSaysThings👍

[@TheSuckoShow]

Yeah, it works as a whole dang sequel.

[@jonasmoore7997]

Besides getting mad at John for helping protect the same man's livelihood after he provided them with a roof over their head, food, and stable work despite having suspicions about John's past

[@bongboi2831]

He would have had a good ending had he just stuck with the name jim milton, putting his name as john marston on his house contract was the beginning of the end. I love this game so much after i killed the squatters john walks away and the weather creeps up slowly but surely into a thunderstorm and it pans to the lightning and john was in the accountants office as you could see him sign his name and right after he signed i heard a loud thunder crack almost symbolizing him letting the law take control of him.

[@leoloccs229]

Imagine playing rdr2 b4 rdr1, and thinking "YAY JOHNS GONNA MAKE IT"

[@coolthefool1]

i didn’t like the epilogue initially but you’ve completely changed my perspective. I feel like the pronghorn Ranch section dragged but it dragged for a reason to show how much effort John would put in for abigail

[@WhiteMonkey2004]

It dragged my first playthrough cause I'd constantly go back to strawberry to see if I can access Arthur's shit. You just gotta enjoy the ride til chapter 2 epilog

[@pooppoop8142]

I liked the ranch part especially the last mission.

[@Arcanelake98]

I grew up loving John so he’s the GOAT for me. Getting to play as him at the end was an amazing experience that was a perfect execution of story development.

[@PremoSaysThings]

bro i had a friend who played rdr and while i was playing world of warcraft, i brushed it off as a cowboy game. i still havent played rdr.

[@Arcanelake98]

@@PremoSaysThings oh no!! You definitely should. The horse riding from RDR1 is still better than every other game that is not RDR2. 😅 And Undead Nightmare is one of the best standalone expansions of all time.

[@m.g.-ow2ky]

I love the epilouge because you can finaly get the satisfaction of killing micah. Awsome videos btw

[@PremoSaysThings]

Agreed Micah needed to be put down. Thanks so much for the wonderful comment!

[@pooppoop8142]

Revenge is a fools game bro

[@m.g.-ow2ky]

@@pooppoop8142 true

[@what-bf7ei]

Killing micah is what got john killed, the shoot out led to agent ross and the government finding john He's a damn fool

[@DeNecousuedo]

I wish John and Arthur had waste Dutch, Micah, Bill and Javier in Beaver Hollow before dealing with Pinkertons and Ross.

[@heromadenotfamous]

Micah probably made a deal with the pinkertons that he would bait Dutch with the Blackwater money and then would have him arrested/killed. I think that‘s why Dutch shot him because he knew that Micah was the rat at the end.

[@PremoSaysThings]

that actually blew my mind bro.

[@bonecrushra.k.a.improwise753]

Bravo Sherlock… but for real tho… I can’t fkn imagine that Dutch couldn’t put the pieces together all along, and that he trusted Micah… who even in mentality is evil and reckless and only joined like a month before the Blackeater gig, he trusted this obvious problem maker more than his so called son Arthur who he basically brought up, and who was always loyal to him. Greed got the best of Dutch.

[@gambinobah8864]

@@bonecrushra.k.a.improwise753I think it’s a mixed of greed but also Dutch probably relating to Micah in the way of his dark thoughts. Dutch for all of his so called good deeds was nothing more than a thief and a cult leader trying to play hero and revolutionary. While he might have helped these people who were considered outcast in society he also held them back as we’ve seen during the epilogue with people like Mary Beth, Tilly, Pearson, and John. Imagine the happy life Arthur may have gotten if he wasn’t so loyal to the gang and the man who raised him. Imagine what a smart man like Lenny could have become if he didn’t die at a young age because of reckless people like Dutch. Dutch was the man who helped comfort sadie, he was the man who saved Javier when he escaped Mexico and was starving near death and he did raised two orphan children but in the end when shit hit the fan like it always was going to with the lifestyle he was living he chose to triple down and endanger the lives of all those people he once showed care for. The man Dutch had so many chances to help these people but instead used them as pawns for a vision of America that was never going to become true. He’s a deeply flawed man and it’s why he’s one of my favorite villains in fiction. His story is one that shows what happens when you continue to flirt with the darkness inside of you and what happens when that darkness you tried to hid finally manifest into a living being like Micah.

[@Max25670]

@@PremoSaysThings John: "What are you doing here, Dutch?" Dutch: "Same as you, I suppose."

[@Kevin-we7ez]

The epilogue is literally the best part of the game, playing again as John and getting revenge was just awesome

[@WhiteMonkey2004]

My fav part is where John physically morphs his hair and face ino arthurs lol jk I do love it despite John's fucked model

[@savagethepunisher]

The only thing I whould change is the model of John Marston because I'm not feeling the Arthur Morgan redskin

[@LUNARBL00M]

I love the music that plays whenever Abigail and John's relationship is mentioned or seen. Speaking of music, I love how you added music from the game into your video. The score in this game is PHENOMENAL. Loved the Video!

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thank you for noticing! I appreciate that. It’s one of the best soundtracks out there! Thank you so much for the comment!

[@NA3RR]

America venom is really the best western end song (yea it’s a song, not the name of the final mission, it’s the the song that plays out when John is alone I think.)

[@LUNARBL00M]

@@NA3RR overrated in my opinion. I really like the music that plays during the mission "red dead redemption"

[@TennisWall]

​@@LUNARBL00Mmoney hog ending or cliff climber ending

[@LUNARBL00M]

​@TennisWall the entire mission in general, and the "cliff climber" ending. The money ending was just Arthur's guitar playing but the cliff ending had the violins that added so much more to it.

[@kulerthankule2350]

RDR1 was my favorite game when I was kid and seeing John put on the OG outfit was so hype

[@hayley4878]

I think once people can look past their grief for Arthur to really sit with the epilogue, most come to the understanding that there was no better way to continue the narrative minus Arthur, while still being able to feel his effect on the world. Awesome video!

[@Sebastian62608]

Honestly if the epilogue didn’t exist it wouldn’t be a 10/10. It’s the perfect transition from the second game to the first game.

[@kyrinjohnson7668]

I love rdr2 Because it never drops off, its always at its peak

[@srkian._.277]

I really liked the Epilogue part.. Since we all get to play as John once more.. It also gave backstory of him from RDR1.. RDR2 story was masterpiece.. characters of John and Arthur is unforgettable in gaming history

[@PremoSaysThings]

So true! Epilogue is epic. Appreciate the comment and watching.

[@srkian._.277]

@@PremoSaysThings Your welcome bro! Much love and appreciation from 🇧🇩🇧🇩

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@@srkian._.277 ধন্যবাদ 🙏

[@DeadX2]

Sucks he was downgraded

[@DATONEGAMER25]

Some kids can never be satisfied. An amazing game like RDR 2 comes out and they will still find something to complain about.

[@PremoSaysThings]

I agree it’s insane. This game is a masterpiece beginning to end. Thanks for the comment and watching.

[@baconhairnooblol1]

Tbh, the epilogue part 2 is in my top 3 best chapters​@@PremoSaysThings

[@splitzerx570]

There certainly is something to critique in the epilogue, especially with John’s weird fusion with Arthur and how John acts but it’s all minor things that you can definitely look past. I always enjoy the epilogue and look forward to it, it has so many great moments in it and is generally very satisfying!

[@thedevilsleutice]

@@splitzerx570I’ve always read that as John trying to retire, and then when Ross takes his family, and makes John hunt down his old gang. A life he thought was over, and wanted his new life back. As to why he’s so aggressive in rdr1 he’s sick of this and just wants to get back to his family. Which makes the ending of 1 sadder, he kept trying to leave his old life only to be dragged back in till he couldn’t be dragged out again.

[@splitzerx570]

@@thedevilsleutice Yeah that’s exactly my thoughts as well, but the main thing to me that’s missing is John’s smart little remarks he’d make in RDR1. Either way I don’t see it as a major problem

[@hughcrofts4867]

39:54 ur mouse disconnected

[@JohnWI13]

I always liked the Epilogue, it made me feel like Chapter 2 again. Great video!

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thanks I appreciate that! I love chapter 2 that’s actually my next video lol. I think I’ll do 2 more rdr2 videos then maybe move on to some other things.

[@ayanahmed8180]

man the music when john is climbing up to kill micah is just epic. I love this game. 2018 was peak gaming

[@greyblenaut]

Dude I look forward to the Epilogue every time, one of my favorite parts of the game for some reason. I just love the cautiousness of it, and its one of those things that re-contextualizes RDR1. Seeing John build the place up, go through a period of missing Abigail and Jack and them finally getting this little piece of happiness makes the ending of RDR1 that much more tragic and bitter (in the best way)

[@BombasticCoco]

I forgot how much stuff actually went down during the epilogue. Thanks for the great analysis!

[@PremoSaysThings]

bro you and me both as i was editing this i was like dang there is so much. lol

[@joelcostecalde8144]

It felt harsh getting through the door of beechers hope's barn, having play rdr1 and knowing John's fate 😢 Nice video

[@PremoSaysThings]

True stuff. Thank you for the comment and watching appreciate it.

[@amirhomayoonfarmusic]

I love the epilogue. It allows you to play as the OG himself again. Killing Micah, exploring the west, bounties, strangers with John, it was perfect. Well, l just wish John had his original rdr1 hair model.

[@DJspidey100]

The epilogue is the best part of the game, and critical to John as the central protagonist of the Redemption duology. Arthur and Jack are more than meaningful aspects to his life - along with developments of their own - but the John we knew from RDR1 was always there. Less refined and more hotheaded in his younger years, letting his doubts and Dutch's gaslighting cause him to be flagrant and irresponsible, but everything good that we love about him was there and it's good to see those qualities come into fruition. I respect the story's willingness to knock characters down a peg and make things more complicated.

[@chuckplainview4085]

You are creating videos on the level of if not better than bigger creators in the red dead scope like fizhy. This production value is insane for the amount of subs you have and I can't wait to see how much better they get hundreds of thousands of subs from now. Instant subscription.

[@PremoSaysThings]

That is such a huge compliment. Thank you so much. Fizhy is such a big inspiration to me! Thank you for watching and again thank you for the great comment. Definitely excited for the future. Appreciate it.

[@SlipSlopSlurp]

❤❤❤❤

[@zachquick2373]

I didn’t play RDR1 until years after playing RDR2. After I finally got around to it, I grew so much more love and appreciation for the epilogue of RDR2. Bittersweet knowing what happens in the end. Truly masterful writing

[@stiffy2432]

this guy needs more recognition

[@PremoSaysThings]

Appreciate that so much! Glad you enjoyed the video

[@thesirlance404]

My dad played this game and 100% it. For years he told me to play and I never did. I kept being overwhelmed by the size of it so I never gave it a fair chance until 3 weeks ago. With that said, I beat it in those 3 weeks and played it every single night whenever I put my son to bed. I was so immersed I would call my dad the next day and ramble on about how amazing this game is and he would give me spots to go to and we’d talk about the story and just how one of a kind this game is. I’ve always been super close with my dad but this game bonded my dad and I even further and I’ll never forget that. Thank you, Rockstar.

[@JSGaming0327]

31:39 Hahaha I had no idea Sadie says this if you check on her! “I will shoot you, if you stay here any longer!” 😂😂😂😂👏👏👏

[@PremoSaysThings]

She standin on business

[@dorotanoga9024]

Yeah, we’re kind of forced to push on ahead after shooting Joe, so it’s nice that the devs thought about people that go the other direction

[@jerryking6273]

His wife was cracking the doctor or somebody. She's supposed to go housekeep for the doctor in strawberry but if you go to the doctors office when she's supposed to be there it's closed

[@PremoSaysThings]

Ohhhhhh shit

[@Fantastic-rp3lc]

That's just a Red Dead Revolver reference. In that game you couldn't enter buildings so all of them had written "Gone fishing/hunting/shopping"

[@leafyapril]

That sign is always there. She didn’t cheat.

[@troupple1658]

"Nah, I've gone straight." So naturally, John starts bounty hunting.. Ha! Beautifully timed Premo! 10/10

[@gameboy8092]

This video is very well made! RDR1 and 2 both never fail to make me cry like a baby. Both games are truly amazing experiences.

[@PixelatedManiac]

I agree, the epilogue is peak writing and fiction and every time I see or hear someone talk negatively about it in any variety of way I can’t help but wonder if they even played the same game as me. These people must have far too shallow of thinking if they can’t appreciate the pure bliss that is the epilogue after all the hardship the rest of the game was. And it was damn earned! Love this vid. John is my favorite character and honestly a big reason why I dared to get married at 21 myself, it means a lot to me. The game and my relationship that is. Thanks for this trip down memory lane.

[@TS-lw5nv]

This is a wonderful video. Thank you for putting it together. I love the epilogue of RDR2 the character development John gets us phenomenal. The story beautify ties RDR2 and RDR1’s stories together.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Hey thank you so much! I really appreciate it. John is such a memorable character and I’m glad they did the epilogue

[@HoIdenHal]

I loved the epilogue and I also love that moment when you finally get to kill the man that killed Arthur. Also I just want to say you have some of the best videos I have ever seen

[@PremoSaysThings]

Micah is the worst bro. American venom is amazing. Thank you for the kind comment, I really appreciate it.

[@benfarr6049]

He didn't kill Arthur, he finally died from TB

[@christiangarcia5924]

What’s awesome is John’s sentence “to be the man you deserve.” Which makes me realize how John understands the kind of man Arthur was. He knew there was something special about Arthur that Abigail loved knowing he never had that side. To be a real man on his own along with his family , he truly added so much to John’s character that makes me appreciate rdr1 way more and makes me feel so much more sorrow for his desire to return to this way of life after Ross makes him wipe the gang. He no longer wanted that life and wanted to keep being that man for Abigail. Man that breaks my heart

[@arthurmorgan8529]

For me the epilogue makes Arthurs story even sadder. You are right, John did all this through love wheras Arthur was incapable after what happened to his former partner and Issac. He wants to with Mary but he just can't

[@PremoSaysThings]

heart breaking really.

[@k8x97]

The Epilogue has some of the most standout moments in the game. Scaling the mountain mowing down Micah's gang as John's theme plays is probably one of the most memorable moments in gaming for me. My takeaway after playing it is that it's very good, but I don't necessarily want to play through it on subsequent games because by and large I enjoy playing as Arthur so much more. If you loved the base game, you owe it to yourself to play through it at least once.

[@Inkypencil22]

0:14 what? arthur morgan literally died for the opposite of what john did. he constantly talked about how revenge was a fool’s game and how he just wanted john to go on and live a normal life, arthur absolutely would not have wanted john to go and chase micah lol

[@zoesagittarius2675]

Good point

[@HDDVD-ROM]

Technically he did live a "normal" life after Arthur's death. He just got rid of Micah in the process.

[@alisonignacio4467]

Micahs death was a bonus

[@Mickeyil222]

I mean, for a majority of the epilogue, it is what Arthur sacrificed himself for, buying a ranch, building a house, escaping the outlaw life, and raising a family. All up into the last mission, that is, when he was blinded by vengeance.

[@markusturunen7929]

I think the epilogue wraps up Jhon Marstons story to Red dead 1 nicely and also giving us the happy ending he deserved even we all know what going to happen after it.

[@emiliorico5632]

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER for those who haven’t played rdr 1 i think the ending of rdr 2 for me was kinda erie and bittersweet because like many others i already knew john’s fate one thing that i think people overlook that the story tries to tell is the cycle of violence vengeance is an idiots game john taking out micha and his whole gang puts him on Edgar Ross’s radar and is a decision that eventually kills him also is something that was essentially taught to jack which makes him continue this cycle of violence and he becomes what they tried so hard for him not to become

[@PremoSaysThings]

Bro this comment made me realize that I forgot to put in the video Arthur saying that vengeance is a fools game. Darn. Thank you for the excellent comment and the insight. Appreciate it

[@acwolfPegasus]

It was so crazy when I play the first time of the epilogue replay as Arthur Morgan the time in his shoes after Arthur's passing and now we're in John's shoes and the thing is that play as John things goes bad

[@PremoSaysThings]

When you switch to John it’s such a drastic difference! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.

[@ALiteralMosquito]

A nice little detail during the strawberry section with Cleet before going after Micah. While interrogating Cleet, if you look and listen closely, you can hear and see Charles talking to the townsfolk about who Cleet is, and his affiliation with Micah Bell. It’s such a small detail most miss but I love it so much, it just adds detail to such a small scene and shows you how much love and care rockstar had for the red dead series.

[@joaopedrosouza8454]

Since rdr1 i fell in love with John. The epilogue felt like a dream to me. Love this fool ❤ Always put a smile on my face seeing him happy with his family.

[@steven6986]

The epilogues of both games are my favorite parts of the games by far. The back and forth of John and Uncle, John trying his best to be a good father and guiding figure for his son, and the romance between John & Abigail. These games are right up there among the best cinematic works ever made :)

[@jordancave3089]

Bromance?? Lol what?

[@steven6986]

@@jordancave3089 whoopsie, missed that typo😬

[@G_MaxX]

I have a feeling that Dutch thought that John maybe let Micah go,so he wanted to put John in trouble by killing Micah himself and knew John would shoot him too. So when Pinkertons find out they search for John and the troubles begin for him as it's in his account. Considering the way Dutch treats John in RDR1. Just a thought btw

[@israelrocha2878]

Makes no sense bc of all the hundreds of dead bodies even if micah got away

[@G_MaxX]

@@israelrocha2878 yeah that's the reason I am not sure..but Pinkertons definelety won't investigate the death of unknown gangsters too..If they investigate there are more similar situations where it could get the Van Der Linde gang to the law. (As you know there were Cornwall's money behind Pinketons) Pinkertons are only interested in Micah as he is the one who helped them.

[@leethecomedian]

This just adds a new layer of sadness playing through the original now. His death was already tough. Nice vid

[@someguy2417]

21:17 "Im seeing tripple!" "THEN SHOOT THE THREE BEARS!!!!!" Forever a classic

[@ollielynch4733]

This is one of the greatest videos I have ever watched, about the greatest game ever made and the only game to really hit me hard in the feels. Thank you.

[@creepypastacraft]

The scene where you recreate the cover of the first game is so fucking cool it reminded me of how cool John was

[@Superblitzz]

All this detail in their relationship just makes RDR1‘s ending that much more sad

[@livelikeus4980]

Charles is definitely one of my favorites! This is a quality video! Thank you

[@PremoSaysThings]

Appreciate that so much!

[@ArmandoFloresAvila]

I enjoy the missions with charles and uncle a lot, fighting the skinners and building the house. The missions with Sadie are cool too. Great video mane.

[@Poggofruit.]

I literally love the epilogue so much, everything about it it’s awesome

[@PremoSaysThings]

Agreeed! Thank you for the comment and watching. Btw love the profile pic :)

[@henryasselin123]

House building scene is the best in all of gaming

[@PremoSaysThings]

@@henryasselin123 so true that made me happy

[@Szugrubur]

For me this was a seweral hours marathon. Started evening ended close to noon. Never seen such intense story telling and probably it wouldn't happen again. It was hipnotizing.

[@Stereosin]

Ive always had an idea for Red Dead 3 since I finished 2, Sadie Adler is the main character and you go through her life after the end of 2, you see just how dark her life gets up until she hears about the death of John Marston and she goes to give her condolences to Jack and Abigail, eventually she hears about an outlaw using the Marston name and you find Jack not long after getting his revenge. This leads to Sadie giving her life for Jack so that he can live a proper life out of the outlaw lifestyle that plagued his father and the rest of the gang.

[@soulindenial5001]

And for Jack to write that book lol

[@Nathan.007]

Really enjoyed the epilogue. It felt like a therapy session after what happened in the main story. Cathartic.

[@alyeet4489]

Oooh brother the transition of John holding the shotgun from his jim miltion outfit to his bounty hunter outfit is just perfection ❤

[@joeh3904]

The epilogue is my favorite part of Rdr2. I religiously played RDR and love John. I grew to love Arthur but playing as John again with the added backstory from his earlier years with the gang made it so much better. Not even mentioning how you turn into the one man army John Marston we know from the first game during American Venom *chefs kiss. Just a masterclass of storytelling.

[@user-hx6gs9rq7u]

Not a very good one man army in this game since Micah pins him down behind a crate until Sadie magically appears on the mountain with no explanation as to how she got there

[@PITSTEELCITY]

Just saw a comment saying “this is one of the best RDR2 videos ive ever seen” and i couldnt agree more and ive watched ALOT of them. This was great man. I have a short attention span and sat here for 40 mins glued to my phone very entertained. I was shocked to see only 2K subs.(just gained another btw)This was very well done

[@pablolopez5537]

Uncle roasting tf outta John is the BEST part

[@zenithproductions8307]

In most other games, something like the epilogue would have been paid DLC released for $30 a few months after the game released, and ironically enough, if rockstar had done that it would have sold like hotcakes and people would be satisfied since chapters 1-6 are a full story start to finish. Yet Rockstar went above and beyond by making it part of the standard game and experience. RDR2 felt like the game that kept giving during first playthrough.

[@BLET_55artem55]

+ RDO is also in the base kit or can be bought separately from the game for way cheaper, which is another big win on their end

[@hoops133]

i have a feeling tons more subscribers are on the way for this channel. Great video!

[@IsaacxCasanova]

This is truly a well crafted video of this part of the game. I just beat the game on my 3rd play through full high honor best ending, teared up again to say goodbye to Arthur. Masterpiece

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thanks! 3rd play through is awesome! I’m on my second - doing high honor this time

[@AgentN-s5u]

The best moment of the game is definitely Arthur saying I’m afraid

[@cookiecat4149]

Man your videos are by far the best I’ve seen regarding RDR2, it’s a crime that you have less then 10k subscribers. Keep up the great work.

[@jedimindtrick75]

I understand a lot of people find it boring. But part of me believes that some parts are purposely dull. Showing the contrast of life on the run in the gang vs. trying to settle down and be a family man. It definitely picks up. But I think the purpose of milking cows and feeding chickens etc… is to give the player the same itch John would have obviously been feeling.

[@_Gwuapo]

Knowing rockstar they definitely do it on purpose. The game was meant to start off slow at first that’s why towards the end everything is chaotic.

[@SaucyDangles]

Any part with John Marston and the OG map is by far THE best to me

[@joeking582]

2nd most underrated is this video. Well done 👏

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thank you very much! I appreciate that

[@SuperJbunt]

I recently finished my second play through and can’t believe how many side missions i missed. The little love story between Arthur and Charlotte was is something thats not talked about a lot. In a different world Arthur lives the rest of his days peacefully with her

[@PremoSaysThings]

Congrats! Yeah it definitely is super sad. I was hoping he got that ending. Thanks for commenting and watching, I really appreciate it. Maybe I’ll do a video on Arthur and charlotte

[@Jade_3304]

After the depressing and action packed Chapter 6 I really enjoy the Epilogue especially being in Pronghorn Ranch The simple tasks of milking cows, picking up horse and cow crap, birthing foals, fencing is pretty comforting I'm glad the Epilogue is long and doesn't end right away with John getting his ranch, married and end with a happily ever after 🤣 It took time for John to get his ranch mean time he worked hard for months until he felt like asking for help from Mr Gedes to put a good word to the bank for a loan Bounty hunting with Sadie was fun too During my first playthrough after Arthur's death I didn't really tear up like most fans did Yes I felt saddened and grief I just sat in silence in my dark bedroom staring at the screen as the sun rises and Arthur takes his last breath Cut to 8 years later we're now with John and Abigail bickering about finding a place to lie low having to drive the wagon to Strawberry then to Pronghorn to deliver it was simple and calming I did miss Arthur and felt kinda off playing as John Marston after a long journey with the Van Der Linde gang From Colter, Horseshoe Overlook, Clemens Point, Shady Belle, Guarma, Lakay Then Beaver Hollow The absence of Javier, Bill and Dutch knowing they're still out there was kinda sad knowing what happens in the first game I read the newspaper in game reading the part where Dutch was seen in Tall Trees is haunting Javier is in Mexico and Bill who knows where but he started his own gang now taking charge When it came time to hunt down Micah I honestly didn't care Sure it was satisfying to shoot Micah but the way he died didn't feel satisfying I wanted him to scream in agony after how much pain he's caused to everyone

[@PremoSaysThings]

absolutely beautiful comment. you expressed exactly how i felt during those moments. this is almost like a poem. thank you so much!

[@Admiralofthedeeps]

The epilogue is amazing. I just finished it again there yesterday, and i have to say it's one of my favourite parts of the game. Its a wonderful cooldown after the darkness of the end of Arthurs story and it allows you time to visit some of the locations that arthur had impacted and see Johns reflections of that. Its brilliant. The end credits scenes also tie up what was happening between the first and second games.

[@CamTheWarlock]

This ending was one of my favourite parts, because I’d always heard a lot about the story of RDR2 before playing it, but I never even heard about the epilogue, so it was a whole new story I knew nothing about going into it (I still have not played RDR1, mostly because I don’t have the patience to emulate or consoles with it).

[@PremoSaysThings]

Same! I think going into rdr2 without knowledge of rdr is a special thing

[@DonutGuard]

Dutch saying that he's there for the same reason as John kind of confirms that he's there to kill Micah. Micah saying that all manner of folks are paying social calls these days confirms that Dutch had just recently arrived, likely with the money from Blackwater. I think Dutch used the money to lure Micah out to a remote location where he could kill him and either take over his gang. For the record though, I'm starting to have doubts whether or not Micah was actually a rat. It's too on the nose and too much doesn't make sense if he were the rat. I think Milton just lied to John about Micah being the rat thinking that he would let Arthur, Sadie and Abigail "slip away" and feed that bad intel to Dutch, causing the gang to collapse from lack of trust and infighting. I think the real rat all along was Abigail, because she's the only one that actually makes sense, and she stopped being an informant after Saint Denis because of what they did to Hosea. After that, Arthur was right... there was no need for a rat (anymore at least) because they'd gotten sloppier than the town drunk. So Micah was never a rat... just a scumbag.

[@WT_Bolt]

Finally a person who talks about the epilogue most people i see say "i miss arthur" "john sucks" and its always those fanboys and fangirls and i kinda wish micah was a good guy i liked him

[@PremoSaysThings]

Glad you see it that way as well! Thanks for the kind comment I appreciate it

[@earvinwiblums4447]

I almost forgot how much this game made me cry. What a masterpiece. And great work here on this video

[@beohbe64]

Love what you've done. I really enjoyed the epilogue as a set up for the story in RDR and there was definitely unfinished business. For me, although you play as Arthur and John, RDR2 is as much a story about Sadie Adler. Those O'Driscoll's did more than just kill her husband.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thank you! I will do a Sadie character video at some point. She is a badass

[@wolfhound146]

I don't understand the people that wanted to push for Sadie being a romance option for Arthur. I think she's the best version of her she can be. First off, I don't think there was enough time for any romantic relation ship to form. Think of where she came from and how she lived. The Odriscoll's killing Jake basically taking her hostage even though they didn't know it at the time. Micah burning her house down. Learning the people who are taking care of you are in your mind the same as the ones that killed Jake. She was in a constant state of fear and paranoia more than likely. That one day one of them would kill her for example. Over the years Arthur, John Uncle and the girls over a long time brought her out of her shell. They always treated her as the person she was and is. When she came out she became a hardened, hardheaded and over protective sister willing to put her own life on the line. In the epilogue you can really see her reflect on her actions and her involvement with John. The very mission when John says it's his choice to go after Micah she says it's her decision whether John goes with her on more bounties or not. It was the reflection of how much danger she was really putting him in. She realized the stakes and how serious they were. Sadie in this moment had her very own redemption ark. From a hallowed maiden needing saving to a bloodthirsty killer to having her peace of mind again how ever small at the time it may be. In these moments you see that she is genuinely able to think about the results of her actions. In my opinion this caused her to make the hardest decision for her. That being to leave John alone and be on her own. She realized she's only going to get in the way of the life he wants and will only start creating more enemies trying to kill him. The way Sadie is now nothing will ever break the bond she has with John Abby Uncle and Charles and that is the best kind of love. A relationship would only weaken that bond. By the way the true traitor was Dutch himself. It was all his ego and not being able to accept the consequences of his actions. He kept drawing more and more attention to himself and personally I do think Micah talked. Though I think ultimately it was the attention Dutch brought onto the gang. The people close to him were telling him his ideas were bad and he didn't listen to the ones that were there from nearly the beginning. The ones who were his wise counsel so to speak. Micah fed into Dutch's delusions of a grand plan and told him everything he wanted to hear. Dutch cut everyone out who mattered and as he got more bold and brash he might as well have been a raid siren telling the world were the gang was. Another thought though... This is very likely an unpopular opinion though I think there is a chance that the dead loyalty they clinged onto is the traitor. If Arthur gave up Dutch I think there would have been a high chance of working something out for the rest of the gang. If he turned Dutch in there is a chance that he might have saved the majority of the gang. Milton really tried to reason with Arthur. He tried on many occasions to give the rest of the gang an out. He didn't mince words and he pretty much word for word I think on two occasions said "Arthur if you give me Dutch the rest of you can live." Even then in those moments if Milton wanted Arthur and the gang dead he could have just killed Arthur right then in and there. He walked right into the camp to give them a chance to surrender. They gave them that chance and the gang refused it only to have it end the way it did. That aspect of "loyalty" is potentially the rat everyone is looking for. The game goes on about how the loyalty was broken long ago and how it isn't there anymore. I think that is a good contender for who the rat is. "Sometimes the one's you are supposed to trust are the ones you shouldn't."

[@efesto1]

What an amazing video you’ve made. Thank you! Best game of all time!!

[@PremoSaysThings]

Wow thank you! I appreciate that a lot

[@THEluck38]

After John proposes to Abigale, and you spawn next in the morning leaning on the fence looking at the sun. That was a “yea I got laid last night” kinda pose 😂

[@justino9309]

Great video. Its always tough for me to replay both knowing the outcome. Its wild that in the end, if john wouldve fully listened to arthur and not looked back, he never wouldve went after micah and thus never wouldve lead agent ross to him and his family, of course, then theres no rdr1 lol

[@g1ad1y69]

Speaking of underrated, Micah is actually a really underrated character. People only hate his character because he was the rat. For one he was a badass gunslinger, and also the way rockstar made his personality was amazing. The early signs that he was remorseless was great, and once you get to the end it all collides together and makes sense.

[@moragslothe6449]

My favorite part of John Marston's story is Undead Nightmare.