The eSID2 is the Coolest Thing You Can Buy for Your Saab 9-3!

Today I go over the eSID2 for the Saab 9-3 and all of it's quirky and unique and useful features! You can purchase these new from Maptun or Swedish Motorsports.
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[@klein2042]

You should start calling us Saab-scribers

[@AutoAutopsy]

I should!

[@philje123]

The power and torque readings seems spot on for me. I have the 1.9 TTiD (twin turbo diesel- you didn't get any diesels in the US). They're rated 180bhp and 400nm stock (295 ft lb). My eSID reads 184bhp and 407nm 😁 P.s. I managed to buy mine 2nd hand for £60 (75 USD) 😁😁

[@AutoAutopsy]

I'm thinking it's because of the tune

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

You forgot the MOST important option in my opinion... the blinker touch activation (5 blinks for lane changing) 😬

[@autoholicmedia]

You can select the amount of blinks. Have mine set to 4.

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Autoholic Media u r right, i programmed mine to 5 long time ago that i forgot it was programmable option

[@AutoAutopsy]

I believe mine is set at 3! lol, haven't changed it yet

[@philje123]

Yes. The most useful feature for me that I missed from my VW and Skodas.

[@hrjun]

How can I do that with TEch2?

[@DerbJd]

BHP AND TORQUE READINGS ISSUE: My 2008 TiD is chipped witha 73bhp increase and I have an Android DVD/CD head unit (2 DIN) and Torque Pro app fed via OBD2 ELM327 plug. I get many many more readings and I can choose the layouts of pages of dials, graphs, charts, input safety thresholds so that dials flash and warning beeps go off etc. And having live Load and Boost gauges lets me drive more economically (EG - 6th gear on the Aisin AF40 flappy-paddle auto box is not economical under 90mph, so only good for German Autobahns). Anyway, my Torque and BHP figures are mismatched too, because the MAF sensor maxes out at 22.3psi. The Turbo was 0.7BAR for 150bhp, but is now set at 1.8BAR for 223bhp. So it's worth checking the abilities of the existing sensors, but also, what the car's ECU is translating performance into, seems as you have a piggy-back ECU modification.

[@AutoAutopsy]

Yeah, I've been told my tune might affect it

[@philje123]

Wonder if a sensor from a TTiD would fit? They run up to 30psi stock so the sensor must be able to read up to and over that.

[@MultiSkurt]

From eSID2 manual: "Power: This function shows the maximum power output calculated from the torque and engine speed information, as read from the engine controller."

[@howardkey6152]

I bought a 05 9-5 arc today for $1000. Runs and drives good and only 94k miles 😎

[@AutoAutopsy]

Wow, nice deal!

[@themahdiandthe313]

HI...ADAMBE FROM MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA YOU HAVE CONVINCED ME WITH YOUR SHOWS ON BUY THAT SAAB ON THE CAR SALES SITE THAT I REALLY WASN'T GOING TO GIVE A SECOND LOOK AT.. NICE BRO

[@AutoAutopsy]

🙌🏼👊🏼

[@CJBrown3000]

Since you recently sold this Saab, will you install the esid 03-06 on your MY2003 9-3? Possibly make a video on the install as well?

[@AutoAutopsy]

I definitely want to! Possibly down the road. Currently doing some suspension on it so that’ll be first 😁

[@gstpierre69]

The horsepower and torque seems like its calculated at the wheels. The numbers are accurate that way.

[@AutoAutopsy]

Compared to the dyno?

[@AndrewJB]

I reckon so as well, my Hirsch V6 made 269 max hp. Hirsch advertise it as being 275 but most make 300 on a Dyno. 269 with 15% losses is around 300.

[@autoholicmedia]

Sometimes tire pressure needs some time to show up. Unless it's been disabled on your vehicle with a Tech 2, which is possible. Also, even if you're tuned on e85 it will not tell you the ethanol content. Possibly only works with the European biopower models.

[@AutoAutopsy]

Thanks for sharing the info, much appreciated

[@christofferwiig9510]

You should review the Saab 9-5 aero 2011!

[@AutoAutopsy]

I would love to!

[@WindowsAndMacintosh]

I've debated it for a while, but this is not at least the second product that you've convinced me to buy! Lol. I'm looking forward to using it in my manual Turbo X. Do you think the torque/power readings may have been inaccurate for you because you had the incorrect engine selected?

[@AutoAutopsy]

lol! And no, it hasn't given me different readings since recording this. Oh well :(

[@gregwensman1629]

Thx love my Esid2 1) I’m not sure but maybe your torque and HP are reading from the trans rather than from the crank 2) I used my Esid2 today to pull codes after my X started running rough. Threw 2 codes both indicted miss fires! Oh well at 80k time for new plugs and coils

[@AutoAutopsy]

Darn, have fun with the back 3 coils and plugs :(

[@Danny88Jay]

I gotta do the same.. 1&6 are down.. 08' 9-3aero

[@jerrycabrera3095]

I had the same problem I did the coils and plugs withch fixed my issue. But I noticed some oil along my upper d.s. (valve cover). Fixing this should help me see the pulls I remember.

[@candykendricks2069]

O ordered one of those for my hell cat u plug it under the fuse box and it tells you everything it bugs me to death everything I do it takes note I out gas on my car and I used mid grade and it sent a message I should use premium and add one of those engine and carburetor cleaners like stp or whatever kind it works good it's takes note of everything from tire pressure to oil and everything else 😂 it's really cool it sends data to my I pad and phone it's cool good to have very useful thanks trader 😂🤣I have one already and your right it works very well 👍I can't complain

[@mdcEVO8]

Looking this up because I just ordered one. I had to replace the windshield on my 9-3 and ever since the rain sensors work like crap. So I lost intermittent wiper mode.. When I read that the Esid2 can let you set your own intermittent mode then I bought it. I want to see what the differences are in power gains too, after I put in my exhaust and tune. I'm not going to Dyno it but I do have the Torque Android App and I guess I could check the differences between them.

[@AutoAutopsy]

Yeah! Mine unfortunately doesn't read power and torque accurately; im sure if the car were stock it would though

[@cinrambrad]

The car looked great, you did a great job detailing it. You mentioned flex fuel, my Durango is flex capable, but I have never used it. Heard too many bad things about it....

[@AutoAutopsy]

Thank you!

[@hp8233]

Ordered one yesterday so hopefully I'll get it after the weekend. Looking forward to read out the kodes . Hopefully that will give me a clue of what's wrong with the auxiliary heater that is the best feature of the car in snowy Sweden atm. Just depressing knowing that there is an auxiliary heater that the side let me start with the key remote if you don't wanna set a time manually before leaving the car. But no pleasure or warm car when that stupid German heater brake down in every 9-3 TiD & TTiD >:(

[@AutoAutopsy]

good luck solving that!

[@lias5095]

Hey, I wanted to thank you for your content. I just bought a 2008 Saab 9-3 Vector Sportcombi Bio-fuel, and your videos have been really helpful in learning tips and tricks about my new (old) car which is being delivered today! Regarding this esid3, does it really do anything more than a decent $50 OBD2 can do? It seems like it does the same, but on a smaller more fiddly display as opposed to connecting a regular one to a decent mobile app? Seems a very high price for what appears to be a lesser item. Convince me otherwise?

[@AutoAutopsy]

glad i can help you! yes, they're very much worth the money over a standard OBD tool

[@SAABeast]

Is it compatible with SAAB 9-5 Aero (2010) Diesel FWD? And thank you for making those videos!They're very informative and it's good to know that there still people who know about this great company and take care about it cars, it's very rare for nowadays. My Dad are fan of this company and so do i. His first SAAB was 9000, it seems to me. His friend owns a 9-3 Turbo X, like yours, but silver. And it was my Dad's car before 2010. And hello from Ukraine SAAB Family! Good luck!

[@Mortask]

it only works for 9-3 (2007-2014)

[@Syktx]

Turbo X's only came in black

[@AutoAutopsy]

Like said above, the turbo x only came in black! And nope, 9-3's only unfortunately

[@SAABeast]

@@AutoAutopsy Sorry, my father told me about this, but totally forgot it. He own regular SAAB 9-3 Turbo XWD.

[@d4ve587]

Anything saab good dry or moist 😉👍💪all good 😎

[@AutoAutopsy]

:)

[@Vlad-kf7hw]

Hey, i wonder if you know about the esid3 they are now offering at maptun. Is this just the update from the esid2? the esid03-06 is still available too ^^ thanks :)

[@AutoAutopsy]

Yes it’s an update

[@Vlad-kf7hw]

@@AutoAutopsy cool, thank you for the info :)

[@diegomurillo2194]

Okay on the horsepower, you mentioned you got all that power to the crank. Maybe the eSID measures it at the wheels, you know, there is drivetrain loss.

[@AutoAutopsy]

I know, but if it were a the wheels, it should be reading lower than that. I'm not too sure

[@busybee2033]

Enjoy washing the car, its a blessing

[@AutoAutopsy]

;)

[@adamk6768]

I noticed in this you have a ‘cornering headlight malfunction’ in this video. Have you been able to fix this? I have the same issue on mine and can’t figure it out. Any help would be appreciated!!

[@AutoAutopsy]

yes, i had it reprogrammed with a tech2 and it went away

[@adamk6768]

@@AutoAutopsy great to know. thank you!!!

[@marsdahustler]

Need a tech 2 version to this

[@healthierlifestylesforyou7117]

Maybe it is giving you the WHP? You were saying the CHP that will be higher than what the WHP is because 1 it is at the wheels and 2 it is AWD. Maybe it selected the wrong engine as well.

[@AutoAutopsy]

I'm still not sure

[@jacobp7903]

Great video man, does anyone know where I can purchase?

[@AutoAutopsy]

thanks, its mentioned in the video

[@benflitney769]

Wonder if that model would work on my 2006 with a face lift dash

[@AutoAutopsy]

You swapped dashes? I'm not sure in that scenario.

[@timtykodi2162]

Your missing the tire pressure sensors in your wheels. You can go to any tire store and have them installed!

[@AutoAutopsy]

Yeah idk if I really wanna pay the money for it haha

[@garyreece4248]

Dang. I wish one was made for the OG 9-3 vert. 😢

[@AutoAutopsy]

rip :(

[@dontedq]

This is pretty cool sadly I have an 06 and it requires some wireing it's not a plug in like this one

[@AutoAutopsy]

Aw :(

[@dontedq]

@@AutoAutopsy I wish there was a video to explain how to wire up the esid2 for the 06 models

[@pjg2900]

@@dontedq it's easy just follow the tutorial, need some weld, that's all

[@Mangotrond]

It takes some light wiring, but it has even more functions and a bigger display, so its definitely worth it

[@shakalpb1164]

tire pressure can only be measured while driving

[@AutoAutopsy]

TPMS was disabled on the car regardless

[@poprostuadam69]

It is possible to activate this same functions with Tech2 ?

[@AutoAutopsy]

no, it's specific to the esid2

[@Droneguy-be1fy]

XWD will eat that HP to the wheels if that was measured at the crank?

[@AutoAutopsy]

it's measured at the crank

[@isak97f]

It's probably because you don't have tire pressure sensors in your wheels

[@willbs94]

Would it let you put any kind of tire valve sensors for it? Are they all universal?

[@louisjames1062]

It may work of the abs sensors as early BMW’s did and need calibration

[@autoholicmedia]

You need the specific sensors for the vehicle. They are auto learn, which isn't normal for GM vehicles. Although, Saab was the least GM of all GMs.

[@jobe4942]

Or the sensor battery is dead? Heard somewhere they work for max 10yrs ...

[@thereaper1399]

Doesn't it kinda make sense though that the power/torque wasn't correct, if you had the wrong engine selected to begin with..? 🤔

[@AutoAutopsy]

It automatically knows what engine you have by reading the Ecu

[@thereaper1399]

@@AutoAutopsy Oh, okay 😌👍🏻

[@Dunwelll]

Does this show a digital speedometer without all the HP and Torque info?

[@AutoAutopsy]

Not that I have seen, unfortunately

[@philje123]

It does. There is a nice little screen in the menus that has RPM, Speed, Power and Torque all in one.

[@ptsanchez1933]

Were do you order this or buy it from

[@AutoAutopsy]

It's stated in the video and description box.

[@fastasfox]

Here is a project for you buddy, I know you did a video on the new 9-5 estate (I think you call them a wagon) but I challenge you to find out if the Estate ever made it on to the road. These are the facts I know. Saab were ready to take the 9-5 estate to market just before it was going to released on general sale throughout Europe when it went bust. A few estates were seen plated and rumours of emergency services getting them first in Sweden. Lots of estates had been made and were on site in Trollhattan ( what happened to those?) They are know as the Unicorn SAAB. I have searched Swedish Auto sales sites and I have never seen any for sale. The problem getting info is that any good info comes direct from Sweden but their lies the problem...I don't speak Swedish. This would make a great video if you have the time to do it justice.

[@AutoAutopsy]

The NG 9-5 wagon? I believe there's about 30 of them or so, and since it was never a production car, it isn't technically road legal (to my knowledge). Although I believe many have gotten them registered, and owners, if willing to sell, want stupid money for them

[@TimJorgensen-ef6ps]

#36 of the production cars iv heard was taken to Millbrook Proving Ground in Bedfordshire where it was tested for years then was set aside. In 2012 when saab was shut down most prototypes was shiped back from all over the word some for auction and some was crushed. However #36 stayed in Englad for many years and was sold of from the inventory to auction and had 2 ownerchanges before some Swedish guy came there and bought it and brought it back home. Its a TTiD XWD.

[@Mr98neon]

I need this toy

[@AutoAutopsy]

they're pretty fun

[@SveaPluton]

Already have one 👍

[@AutoAutopsy]

:)

[@GrockleTD]

Looks to be going for closer to 300 nowadays it looks like

[@AutoAutopsy]

thats the esid3, which is newer with more features. i don't believe its that expensive

[@GrockleTD]

@@AutoAutopsy Looking back i don't entirely know how i got a 300 number :think: but 230 is still a fair chunk of change. On an unrelated note, the people at autozone seem to think i need to replace the radio to fix my misfires

[@msjcars2317]

Why did you sell your Turbo x - so so rare

[@AutoAutopsy]

I was tired of dumping money into it 😅

[@Sup3rSn1per]

As cool as this is I'd prefer getting a bluedriver or other scan tool to be able to diagnose other vehicles.

[@AutoAutopsy]

I have OBD2 scanners as well, but nothing is going to give you this amount of information about the car minus a tech 2

[@Mangotrond]

The good thing is that this reads all control modules, not just engine. Plus all the other features of course

[@paddy1437]

not available for the 9-5...damn

[@AutoAutopsy]

unfortunately :(

[@jirilehky8882]

9-5 have openSID :)

[@blackbirdsweswe8367]

11:42 HAHAHAAHA

[@AutoAutopsy]

:)

[@jessekeskinen4370]

I dont know how To pic up favorits?

[@stevenlopez6682]

Present

[@AutoAutopsy]

HI

[@rubenserda8518]

legit.

[@AutoAutopsy]

:)

[@danielastrom9643]

It maybe was wheel horsepower

[@AutoAutopsy]

I don’t think so; it’s because of the tune

[@flordegryse4891]

If your car doens't has OEM tire presure sensors, it won't show up

[@AutoAutopsy]

I have recently learned it does; it just needs to be reconnected :) thanks!

[@robert_mcmxciv]

TurboX has Tire Pressure Measurement (TPM) as standard, the only of the 9³s

[@diegomurillo2194]

You probably don't have tires lol

[@AutoAutopsy]

Right, they're missing! Lol

[@papi-champoo6033]

Manual or standard not "stick".

[@AutoAutopsy]

It's all the same thing....

[@papi-champoo6033]

@@AutoAutopsy sticks are on trees and bushes not vehicles, lol so no not the same. That's like saying a soldier is the same as a marine.

[@jason8841]

@@papi-champoo6033 lmao you're such a dumbass

[@perks719]

Or save yourself 100$ and get a bluetooth obd2 scanner and the torque app

[@autoholicmedia]

Unfortunately, that isn't going to show you tire pressures and some of the other things that this will.

[@AutoAutopsy]

It also won't be "live;" it'll lag behind a second or two and be less accurate

[@Danny88Jay]

@@autoholicmedia the car already monitors pressures..

[@autoholicmedia]

@@Danny88Jay it monitors them, but you can't see the actual pressures without the eSID.