'The EU is still holding us back' insists LBC caller in testy debate

"We need to expand and get back into the world."
"What does that mean? We never left the world. We were always in the world!"
Lewis has a frustrating call with Dave about the meaning of sovereignty.
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[@victoria9590]

Ladies and Gentlemen this caller is the reason why the country is in such a mess.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Why?

[@happyapple4269]

Not the corrupt government? The people who are in charge and run the country? Are would argue people like you are far more to blame. Ignorant.

[@mikebarnes2063]

Why because she has an opinion that's not the same as yours?????grow up...

[@cmahogan1459]

​@@kM-ij2ly if you listened to this guys incoherent nonsensical ramblings and thought the guy had a point you're part of the problem as well. What he said made zero sense he just repeated the same buzzwords that the rest of the morons that voted brexit gobbled up.

[@nanimoyom3]

​@@mikebarnes2063 You are evidence that the education system is in need of an overhaul.

[@user-lu7qh9hj3n]

This just shows how propaganda can destroy countries. Gullibility at it's worst.

[@HShango]

David Cameron to Sunak have literally broken the UK economy. We seem to always blame the EU, but we have this thing of never holding the UK government accountable properly, we seem to always just moan and groan about things that seem to not be in our control (when it is). This government Tories have deliberately allowed the UK to become the ill man of Europe again.

[@nathanfurnival8724]

The I’ll mam ?

[@kiriakoz]

UK is past gone now. I'm glad I moved abroad when I did, it's a joke.

[@Martinbeef]

@@kiriakoz You’re lucky. I wish I could have. It’s a shame there wasn’t a clause in the agreement for people to settle in other countries if they wanted to before we went, with all the rights and privileges of citizenship.

[@chrisspencer6502]

Yeah idiots like this need to be humiliated and shamed. This is where I wish center left had characters like Jeremy Clarkson or Nigel garage

[@edricaldones9639]

As an EU citizen, people like this make me glad the UK left.

[@temperatemix8268]

Hoping us in Scotland can join you

[@edricaldones9639]

​@@temperatemix8268 You'll be very welcome.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@temperatemix8268 Yes please - Scotland is welcome on the fast-VIP-lane :)

[@NoMoreToriesAnymore]

​@@temperatemix8268 The English government will never let that happen. Scotland will be the energy capital of Europe in 20 years.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

​@@temperatemix8268 Won't help your trade with England, living under the EU Super State.

[@Dantianblue]

These people talk about the EU as if we were their prisoners. We WERE the EU, we were EU citizens, we weren't kidnapped.

[@FFM0594]

And the fact that Britain (England) could choose to leave the EU proves sovereignty was never not there.

[@cryoraptora303tm2]

Not to mention, the public _chose_ to join the EU. Such a lack of sovereignty, eh?

[@Garmez120]

Prisoners? 😂 We had the best seat at the table, the best deal with the most exemptions. These people are morons.

[@nakkadu]

​@@FFM0594 And Wales

[@FFM0594]

@@nakkadu True, but Wales has always been a nation of toadies to the English.

[@NF-bz8uk]

I lost my EU citizenship because of a person like this....

[@alanbeaumont4848]

As a 65 year old myself can we hear less from the old guy who's making us look bad.

[@JoeeyTheeKangaroo]

Well its your generations fault for not reigning in these lunatics. You could buy a house for about £50k and I can't.

[@alanpage3973]

I'm 69 and I believe anyone over pension age should not be allowed to vote because there's to many people like this caller who haven't got a clue about politics

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

@@alanpage3973 That is not how democracy works, unfortunately. I'm European living in UK and while I despise Brexit and can see how this whole SS destroyed this country, I don't think it would be sensible to exercise this idea. Removing people from a ballot paper just because we strongly disagree with them is not a democracy. UK has lost the second beneficial factor (EU membership), let's not loose the most valuable asset.

[@tomvanaarle2622]

@@alanpage3973 You honestly believe he had a clue thirty years ago?

[@gregorywhite9095]

I live in Canada where a Conservative recently said that the universities are brainwashing young people to become liberal. Makes me ashamed to be an old white guy.

[@jjseluk]

“Get back to Asia, the pacific and Africa” means get back to being the British Empire. It’s staggering how little the older generations know about how anything really works.

[@amcc5887]

He's living in lá lá lá land 🙄

[@mogsya3367]

some of the older generation - not this one, not me. this person is stuck in some place that does not exist.

[@tonyb9735]

Exactly, we generated a huge proportion of our wealth by forcefully robbing it from other nations. Those days are long gone.

[@ladharbheinn1]

​@@mogsya3367 Rees-Mogg is looking forward to trading with Cathay, Sam, Ceylon, The Gold Coast etc etc.

[@jjseluk]

@@mogsya3367 yeh I didn’t want to tar all older people with the same brush. Apologies and more power to you!

[@powerboon2k]

He has absolutely no clue what he is talking about.

[@LowPlainsDrifter60]

Like most Brexiteers.

[@FFM0594]

Yes, but that's the EU's fault.

[@Mayfayne]

I’m no fan of Churchill, but when he said that the best argument against democracy was a five-minute conversation with the average voter he had a point.

[@The1980Philip]

I know the quote is attributed to him, but there is no evidence that he said it.

[@Mayfayne]

@@The1980Philip I’ve seen it attributed to him by several sources. It doesn’t really matter; the point still stands.

[@gregjones8412]

I think if we replace 'democracy' with 'Brexit' and 'voter' with 'Brexiter', we can save some time and reduce five-minutes down to fifteen seconds.

[@smon4164]

We can't move forward until the people who fantasise about the past have gone.

[@pneumaticFrequency]

Lots of them don't have long left 😢

[@amcc5887]

Yes and that's the older generation, am 27 myself, my nanny and grandad are the same 🙄🙄🙄

[@stegemme]

fantasists are everywhere

[@fedos]

​@@pneumaticFrequency It seems like the closer they get to leaving the more willing they are to do permanent damage first.

[@sagittariusA..26.670]

You mean people who have a different opinion to you

[@PaulStargasm]

He's levelling the problems of the country at the door of the EU when it's actually the tories who are causing it. Our economy has grown from being in the EU. If that doesn't trickle down you have to look at your own government.

[@jefflinton]

YOU elected them. YOU listened to Nigel and Boris and now you've no control, subsidies,EU trading etc. YOU are still paying billions into the EU and funding a non NATO war. YOU have virtually zero territorial waters, "Britannia rules the waves?" 😅 YOU are a small corner shop with nothing to sell because everyone else has gone to the shopping mall. However,you still have your sovereignty. p.s. whatever happened to the curved bananas that Boris promised?😂 The British joke.

[@BenCG]

Nail on the head.

[@PrimitiveFuturologist_YTC]

Still hasn’t understood that the problems were caused by the Tories before the UK left the EU and allowed himself to be lied to and can’t accept the reality that not only is the team he pinned his colours to, the source of his strife, but he was one of the turkeys who voted for Xmas & kept them in power to continue their systemic destruction of British society. Also, every economist knows that trickle down economics was debunked decades ago in the US.

[@Pob2278]

I m sorry some people need to get a grip and sort themselves out!

[@PrimitiveFuturologist_YTC]

@@Pob2278 No need to apologise. You’re not wrong.

[@Keln02]

It's staggering to hear someone say what is in essence "get our empire" back rather than "trade with our neighbours"

[@freddysw]

Yes, we did make our money from Africa and Asia when they were forced to trade with us at the barrel of a gun

[@loneprimate]

Speaking as someone who lives in "the Empire", ah, yeah. We were done with that about 60 years ago. Thanks but no thanks. We'll see you at the Commonwealth meetings. Please chill the beer.

[@MrTele57]

In a nutshell..

[@roksanamakowska-michalak369]

Yup. Perhaps he just loves the notion of stealing and enslaving a bit more, than competing and offering a fair pay for services and goods. Just a thought...

[@tonyroy8123]

Keln. we have the misfortune of living among these utterly brain cells devoid bums!

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

It's always interesting to hear how many different flavors of Brexit exist. There is no real coherent message outside ' E.U is bad ' .

[@ai-d2121]

Correction: EU bad. Leave out “the”. Too many words in one sentence.

[@onlychangeiscertain]

@@ai-d2121Don’t forget: Immigrants bad.

[@garypellerin5576]

That's the magic of propaganda. Be vague and talk in generalates, let the audience fill in the details to suit their own prejudice.

[@op3129]

@@garypellerin5576 all this. even the "America has done nothing for us" is part of it. never says how - or WHY - the US would magically help brexiteers. (they thought the US would help something something blah blah argle bargle BUT BORIS something something ... ? I'm American. just reality: we don't help anyone. we just hurt allies LESS. that's all. like chlorine chicken would help UK in any manner.)

[@onlychangeiscertain]

“With age comes wisdom.” - we need to stop using that one.

[@michaelcoward1902]

The aged have spent most of the last decade proving it to be entirely wrong.

[@rogersensier8960]

This old guy must have been at the end of a very very long queue and when he got to the head of it the gift of wisdom had run out

[@steveaga4683]

I am Welsh! I am 68! It sounds like this guy comes from the same area in the Valleys as me! But his views cannot be more different to mine!

[@trevordavies5486]

The wealth of the British Empire did not come from trade but from plunder.

[@nathanfurnival8724]

😢 then give all your stuff away virtue signaling cringe 😬😂

[@The_Phoenix_Saga]

Name a single nation in history, not guilty of doing that, even amongst themselves. I'll wait.

[@abbofun9022]

@@The_Phoenix_Saga using a Whataboutism doesn’t diminish the original comment, but to answer your question, I’m pretty sure Luxemburg is innocent 😊

[@Kate-ec1uy]

@@The_Phoenix_Saga Britain certainly was one of the best at plundering though! Certainly in those areas he listed off! There was no trade!!

[@stevenfennell7020]

@@The_Phoenix_Saga Eh, all the countries that were asset stripped by the English.

[@flamedealership]

This proves again that you can't argue with someone who's got firm opinions about everything without having a basic understanding about anything. Those people are everywhere - but it seems they're the loudest voices in Britain since 2016.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Like those in the transgender lobby leftist lobby etc

[@tonycook7679]

It's Dunning-Kruger writ large once again.

[@tonycook7679]

@@kM-ij2ly so your argument is that there are other people that you can't trust also. How does that help? You are admitting this old fool can't be trusted. If I were you I would steer clear of logic, it isn't your strong point.

[@omnivorous65]

That is the reason why populists are so dangerous. This demographic is getting bigger and bigger and populists are basically telling them that their notions and ideas are spot on, no matter how deranged and removed from reality they are.

[@lukaszepesi]

Actually the EU did more for the poor in the UK than the Tories ever would, that's probably one of the reasons they wanted to leave. Too much money going to regular people so inefficient when you could just take all the money for yourself.

[@pipoo1]

Meanwhile the Australians were literally laughing at us the day the free trade deal came into effect.

[@richardtuxford1812]

As a Brit in Australia I can confirm this. Most Australians can't understand why we brexited, absolutely non sensical

[@tim211292]

we definitely were, we get an export market for our produce, we dont realy have to deal with increased imports because luxury cars are the only thing you export to us and the lowering of barriers to visas means we can take more of your completely brutalised NHS staff to come here and get a far better wage and lifestyle, whats not to laugh about? i'd like to feel bad but you keep voting complete morons into office so its quite difficult not to laugh. i welcome anyone who has any skills to come over, Australia is Britain without the lunacy

[@billyhughes805]

It's like talking to a wall.

[@RAMBOIT.]

The wall talks sense unlike this caller 😂

[@ingmo9]

It is.

[@meenabootle6777]

Yes to a brick wall😅

[@ellecrescent9834]

A wall would be better

[@sashabertold3731]

A very thick wall😂😂😂

[@tone6403]

No fool like an old fool.

[@martinquinn9007]

He wants the british empire back

[@happyapple4269]

The Americans took that after ww2

[@Tall_Paul_Rides]

India is not in the Pacific. Surprisingly it is in the Indian Ocean.

[@AndyTomlins]

"We need to get back into the world" means we need to start invading countries again.

[@TheCloudhopper]

That was the entire Brexit campaign. The dream of The British Empire being resurrected. One world ruled by England. I know a small austrian man who had a similar dream not long ago.

[@philcal2000]

@@Tall_Paul_Rides he really meant Australia we're all black down here too...😉🤣

[@Jim1255783]

Every single problem highlighted by this caller is a UK Domestic issue, created by UK Domestic politics.

[@petergaskin1811]

If you tried to tell him that all the way through our EC, EEC and EU membership we always had total control (i.e., sovereignty) over external immigration, he would just stare blankly at you.

[@Jim1255783]

@@petergaskin1811 nah, he’d just instantly start talking about some other perceived grievance with *the forrins*.

[@kM-ij2ly]

But we didn’t that is a lie we had to adopt EU laws and EU immigration rules ! Why do remainers have to lie!

[@jasonk7072]

I can’t share my Netflix account with people and it’s all Blockbuster’s fault 🤦‍♂️

[@emiliajojo5703]

You have to be british😂❤🇩🇪

[@tomtheeagle1]

@@emiliajojo5703 I expect you are not which explains why you don't get self-deprecating irony!

[@stegemme]

😄

[@johnbekoe2973]

How can society move forward when you have people like this living among us in society???

[@timheavyable]

He is not long for this world. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

He has experience of what's happened in the past and he doesn't want it to happen again to people like you.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Yup

[@jameshansing5396]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 such as what? 😂😂😂😂

[@kurtgodel5236]

Easily. UK care for the vulnerable and elderly is known to be abysmal.

[@oliverseitz9215]

Um people should finally understand: Nobody cares about their whining and complaining. EU moved on, brexit is done, UK is now a common third country and will be treated like that. Cherry picking ended. Out means out. Project fear became project reality. Learning by pain is best learning method of reality.

[@globalist1990]

"No one likes me". Mom: "Have you tried being friendly?"

[@brentoncarter4275]

​@@globalist1990cope

[@globalist1990]

@@brentoncarter4275 cope with what?

[@brentoncarter4275]

@@globalist1990 from your username I'm gonna go with reality.

[@globalist1990]

@@brentoncarter4275 hum? What really? That the EU don't give a f about the UK now?

[@spitroastjerry]

You can't reason with people like this. It's a longstanding ignorance that seems to be inbuilt in a large percentage of the older generation that they almost seem to be proud of.

[@amcc5887]

💯 %👍 👍 👍

[@stegemme]

What you forget is that its our generation that voted into the EEC. Its not just older generations that are ignorant. Ignorant people of all ages are unreasonable and as intransigent, just that it might be for different issues. There is as much ignorance in targeting a "large percentage" of older people for being unreasonable as in your statement they are. This doesn't excuse this caller's ignorance though.

[@Greyrabbit22]

@@stegemme absolutely! It's not an intellectual assessment, it's being emotionally invested in their world view. And that transcends age groups, though in OP's defence, older people tend to be more carefree in voicing their opinions imho.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

​@@stegemme Should never have joined the EEC. Then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[@spitroastjerry]

@@stegemme From what I can make out, that's incorrect. It seems that Harold MacMillan took us in to the EU without referendum and there was a referendum in 1975 to decide whether we stayed or not. That was slightly before I was born and I have quickly scanned Wikipedia so it may not be entirely correct.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

And I bet this caller who knows nothing about politics and economics, thinks 16 - 17 year olds don't know enough to vote.

[@sueyourself5413]

The caller doesn't know what year it is.

[@HShango]

​@@sueyourself5413he's stuck in 1951 lol

[@tonyb9735]

It is beyond disappointing that people like this caller are allowed to vote, but those two things are not connected. I also don't believe that most 16-17 year old have enough life experience to vote (if it were my choice, I'd raise the minimum voting age to about 25). However, if this caller is anything to go by, maybe a maximum age should be imposed too!!!!

[@globalist1990]

Go to the north of England and see how many EU flags you can still see from EU funds for local development. The EU was picking up the slack of the UK government lack of funds to anywhere outside of London.

[@HShango]

I'd rather not visit the north, since a lot of them voted for this nonsense anyway.

[@ftumschk]

The caller is from South Wales, which benefited hugely from EU development funding, as numerous flags and signage on public display demonstrated. Brexit voters like this caller should have opened his eyes, if not his mind, to this fact.

[@bh5037]

@@ftumschk unfo nobody from the EU rang his bell and handed over thousand pounds... so he had no benefit ,right??

[@emilymcplugger]

@Moss A lot of us did not vote for this. Don’t forget that the numbers are about half and half and a third of people didn’t vote. Blame the conmen not the conned.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

The money given by the EU was our own money. They basically gave us a tax rebate. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@poguemahone5476]

The irony of a Welshman talking of the poor not benefiting from the EU is of the scale. I think every single thing that I've visited Wales for was funded by the EU rural economic programme🙄

[@petergaskin1811]

I well remember a young Welsh Brexiter, pre-referendum, being interviewed for a TV News Programme and whining on and on about how "the EU never did anything for us", all the while standing in front of a bright, shiny, very large and very new Sports and Social Centre with a big blue sign in front of it proclaiming "Built with Funds from the EU Social Fund". Oh, the irony.

[@ordoabchao985]

Social services Broken …. NHS Broken ….. Education Broken….. Britain Broke…n

[@nathanfurnival8724]

And you still want immigrants flooding in 😂

[@gaiagreen2690]

​​@@nathanfurnival8724 Because they would replenish the broken NHS, work hard and no Brits would be dying in the waiting rooms any more, as they do now. You had your chance to vent your hateful ignorance, Dave, and we all heard you. Infantile emojis won't help you now.

[@Me0wish]

@@nathanfurnival8724 You know what would help stop them? Being part of the EU

[@mclovin6039]

​@nathanfurnival8724 even illegal immigrants boost the economy....

[@teddansonLA]

@@nathanfurnival8724 He didn't say that.

[@farokudahitam]

Yes , the old boy wants to bring back the empire. 😂😂😂

[@snakeplissken526]

When we got rich by stealing stuff from other countries.

[@slartibartfast3041]

Erm, can someone tell the caller the poor are still subsidising the rich

[@popeyedish]

Its our moral duty to doff oue caps and make sure the rich can continue to avoid paying their fair share...

[@walking_in_the_shade]

You can play Brexit bingo with this guy. He goes from one lie to another ( sovereignty, immigrants, EU control) rather disappointed fish and blue passports wasn't bought up otherwise I would have had a full house! 😄

[@steveberkery6128]

You don’t have to bother debating these numbskulls. Pat them on their heads , and send them on their way.

[@steveberkery6128]

Devote your time to Farage and Rhys-Mogg.

[@walking_in_the_shade]

@@steveberkery6128 I'd rather not ☺️

[@philwill0123]

Bendy bananas and " fish and chips not served in newspaper" are optional add ons

[@willliamtaaffe8099]

😂

[@pinky6758]

Telling from experience with my late grandfather, this caller has early-stage dementia: The caller's inability to mentally respond to a conversation and he just ignores what the other person just said and keeps rambling on, that is a tell-tale sign to me.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

That is the majority of the English people. You want to tell me the majority in England is demented?

[@foreignofficeclub5815]

Or sits in front of The Daily Mail, GBNews and the likes of Farage, Ferrari and Rees-Mogg daily.

[@Kate-ec1uy]

@@foreignofficeclub5815 definitely won't help

[@kiriakoz]

@@foreignofficeclub5815 it's almost indistinguishable from dementia tbh and you have "sleeper cells" all over the country nowadays.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

The presenter isn't much better.

[@quickclipsbyjmj]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 - can the caller explain the Brexit benefits he's spotted so far? I can't find any.

[@oliverseitz9215]

Tons of Red tape, but UK can't sell it as it has no tariff Code to export it. 🤡🤡🤡

[@charlesregan9917]

I think cheape ale or something lol

[@noobadoc]

bendy bananas init

[@m33446]

We will be able to trade whiskey with India soon apparently

[@HShango]

​@@charlesregan9917I think that chav is the typical idiot you'd see at whetherspoons.

[@KimeruKane]

How could America have paid for all of your social services when you were literally giving us money to pay back your lend-lease war debt until 2006??? The E.U. built up an economic system that couldn’t necessarily rival the U.S., but could stand on its own and could create an arguably much higher standard of living for its citizens than what we have in North America!

[@kM-ij2ly]

Er no it couldn’t the economies in the member countries are too different

[@KimeruKane]

Hmm… and how would you address those issues? Perhaps by having a system that enables the free movement of goods and labor, regulated by a central authority, with a standardized currency. The economies of California and Texas couldn’t be further apart from one other, and we seem to be doing just fine.

[@edmundooliver7584]

no, they never payed in full it was discharged just like bankruptcy

[@KimeruKane]

@@edmundooliver7584 that isn’t correct, but even if it were, we wouldn’t necessarily care. The whole purpose of lend-lease was to skirt around U.S. isolationist laws and policies at the time, and enable the F.D.R. administration to contribute to the war effort in whatever way that we could prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

[@aaronpetersen8994]

@@kM-ij2ly This is a strange argument. Just Like the EU Different areas of the UK are on opposite ends of the country and economy There is no economic or political model /argument that suggests splitting the UK areas up into soveren independent contries will solve their problems. They are far better under one economy that supports all areas. Free trade and freedom of movement allows labour to flow where its needed and busineses can grow and thus the economy. Shut off this movement of labour and business will have to move to where there is labour.

[@monty6491]

"Let's grow up and talk about reality." - Man who has given up any connection he had to reality

[@sleepyearth]

You mean the lady who has no sense of reality and went incoherent?

[@tomcrawley3343]

Just because he didn't exercise his right to connect to reality doesn't mean he gave up his right to connect to reality!

[@fang_xianfu]

4:40 "That's illegal immigration" Stop giving away the high ground on this. Being a refugee is not illegal. Its legal by UN convention and by treaties the UK signed (and helped write!) Crossing the channel on a small boat is not illegal if you claim asylum when you arrive. And when the government removes all methods of applying for asylum outside Britain, it's their only option.

[@bh5037]

but but but .... Brexshiteers don't like them !! -- so they must be illegal ....!!

[@mad3m6n]

That's exactly what it is. Boat people = illegal.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

​@@bh5037 Let them come and live with you.

[@alanpage3973]

​@@trytellingthetruth.2068 But they are not illegal until there application has been processed what don't you understand about that

[@drummingtildeath]

Yes the host got that very wrong..

[@14lachris]

Hopefully everyone in the Uk is not as fact free as this caller

[@ralphpurves]

People are starting to wake up from the lies, unfortunately there are still too many Daves

[@Ngamer834]

The media will make it seem everybody still believe the lies and vote Tory. Definitely shifting though.

[@annishilcock4587]

Unfortunately 52% of the population were, that's why we have Brexit!

[@Arltratlo]

they are plenty of them... and they are out of the EU, i am so thankful to Farage for it!

[@alistairrae9807]

Unfortunately we in the UK are going backwards and it’s starting to look 1930s Germany kind of like America

[@Meh-xr3mr]

People like this caller are allowed to vote. No wonder the UK is where it is now.

[@jimmeltonbradley1497]

I'm afraid there is no help for people like this. The only voice they hear is the one inside their own head, which is a tape loop of nonsense, prejudice and downright ignorance.

[@richardhands904]

people like this make me despair

[@kM-ij2ly]

But why?

[@gaiagreen2690]

​@@kM-ij2ly Look around you. See what state the coutry and the leading party are in? THAT'S why.

[@kurtgodel5236]

Being a European, people like this make me laugh. Britain, best shitshow ever!

[@ruinerblodsinn6648]

@@kurtgodel5236 of course it’s nice to enjoy a bit of Schadenfreude once in a while, but remember that everybody would feel better if the UK is going to be a basket case like in the 70s.

[@yootaobe5536]

"Im not prepared to go back into a thing subsidising poor people" - pensioner talking about decades of the future they won't be alive to see anyway

[@leod-sigefast]

Ironically, I bet he votes Tory too. Deluded old fool. The EU put far more into impoverished Welsh towns and villages than the Tory party ever did, or will.

[@legion999]

Old people? more like poor people. I hate subsidising those. /s

[@keltiquewood]

The pure lack of knowledge from the caller was astounding!

[@sitatt]

The delusion of this country is staggering!

[@berserkirclaws107]

Bless him! He found the phone when his carer wasn't around. Dementia is a terrible thing who can happen to any of us 😔

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

Belittling the gentleman that knows more about what's going on in the world than this LBC presenter, just shows your own lack of awareness.

[@cl1cka]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 No he don't. He has rose tinted glasses from 50 years ago. He lives in the past and romanticizes it. 90% of everything he said was frankly idiotic slogans, that have no base in reality.

[@LS-my4rp]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Nigel Farage? Is that you?

[@radarr5345]

😂😂

[@alanpage3973]

​@@trytellingthetruth.2068 The caller is an absolute idiot

[@laterstar1966]

The Dunning kruger effect is strong in this one!

[@stevenfennell7020]

He seems to think the people coming by boat are Eu citizens.

[@lukepricey1]

I don’t think the caller knew what sovereignty meant..

[@beanotreak]

After leaving the EU, the english GDP is now lower than Lithuania, 😂😂

[@edcleverley9333]

GDP per capita, not total GDP

[@beanotreak]

@@edcleverley9333 give it time, it's just starting, not all of the t+c rules are in place,

[@petelawless811]

@@beanotreak you think it’s funny do you come laugh at my country in front of me see what happens

[@doctorfunkshock]

​@@edcleverley9333 It's not true either way, Lithuania has less GDP, and less per capita. I checked it after Patten claimed it. It's untrue.

[@neilevans4352]

@@petelawless811 lol what you going to do send him a fist emoji?🤣🤣

[@davidjames2083]

I have never felt so ashamed to be a Welshman 😒

[@vincentblack7467]

Why??

[@trevormj]

@@vincentblack7467 - the caller had a Welsh accent....

[@ftumschk]

@@trevormj Indeed. South Welsh specifically, a region which has benefited hugely from EU development funding which allowed numerous schools, hospitals, motorways and other public facilities to be built, which Westminster was never going to do in a million years.

[@vincentblack7467]

​@@trevormj can't the old Welsh man have opinion??

[@markwelch3564]

​@@vincentblack7467 this is the nature of a free and open society - even idiots are free to voice an opinion Doesn't mean we have to endorse them though!

[@Alex-cw3rz]

This person is obviously not poor as one of the advnatages of the EU was that it invested in deprived areas, almost all investment in the deprived areas of the UK was partly funded by the EU when we were in it. But you'll find not one thing funded by this government in deprived areas over the past 13 years, apart from this half hearted "leveling up"

[@nathanfurnival8724]

Advantages

[@fang_xianfu]

We're going to level up! Except, wait, we trashed our ability to borrow money so we can't afford it. We'll level up next year.

[@robertmaslin3844]

Millions of pounds of funding were spent in the Clacton on Sea area, but they voted to leave. Just like Cornwall.

[@globalist1990]

Exactly. I'm glad they leave the EU flags for everyone to see.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

They gave us back our own money. Can't you see that? You are the type of people that thank the Inland Revenue for giving you a rebate, not realising it's because you gave them to much to start with. A fool and his/her money are easily parted .

[@robertmaslin3844]

To think, they live amongst us.

[@sabinehahn9774]

Even worse - they vote!

[@albertbrammer9263]

And voting UKIP or Reform. No doubt voted BNP.

[@kurtgodel5236]

You live amongst them. Just saying ...

[@OJoRob]

He literally didn’t listen to a single thing that was said to him, he just used the hosts rebuttal time to come up with a new Daily Express headline to blurt at him.

[@carolinef.7118]

I think the sentiment of this caller is the reason why the UK left the EU. Being an Anglophile I was very sad when I heard the UK was leaving us .. now I am not so sure I want them back .. I am more and more convinced that we are better off without ...

[@giovannidepetris6335]

The uK has always refused to pay as the founding EU members did and still do but the UK never stopped asking for more and more. Sure they can add a lot to the EU but they certainly were not into building a better europe but using it at their convenience: better they are gone if such is the spirit.

[@hazmatproduction4562]

Don’t blame you. I’d want nothing to do with us either if I were an EU citizen. The UK has only one direction to go. Straight down the swanny (that means WC to you Europeans 😂)

[@jordanwalker2804]

The main things we took from Africa and Asia in the last 200 years were the natural resources - before that, we kidnapped and enslaved the people. We did this through colonisation and exploitation; we stole them and gifted things to the elites. Now, we've grown a modicum of conscience we don't steal more (atleast overtly) from former colonies. However, our (and France's, Belgium's, Spain's....) actions in the initial trading, colonisation and break up of Africa continues to impact upon the whole continent, as it does with Indian subcontinent. I get the distinct impression that the caller conveniently forgets/doesn't know these things, and probably has a framed portrait of the MP from the 18th century.

[@clivesmith9377]

What a simplistic caller. He made my heart sink.

[@petelawless811]

Shame it didn’t stop

[@amarbyrd2520]

It's frightening. We have them over here too -- I call them Confederate Republicans

[@johnanthony6123]

So depressed listening to this

[@terryfinnie2146]

What a simpleton 😅

[@elipa3]

The caller seems to think, the empire still exists.

[@nolongerinbetween3913]

Geez.... I was so fed up with brits blaming EU for their own failures and poor governing while they were campaigning for Brexit.... and I always said to myself "wait until they get out so they won't be able to blame their failures on EU anymore..." Little did I know....

[@gerrypowell2748]

As 75 years old Scot,this guy is so sad I’m crying🥹🥹

[@monty6491]

The Ukraine bit staggered me, how can't he see his hypocrisy? Germany invades Poland: Britain's glory days Russia invades Ukraine: not our problem

[@bubba842]

A bit of a different situation. There was an agreement with Poland enacted by the Chamberlain government. There was no agreement with The Ukraine. The caller is a nut job, but he is right about the Ukraine issue. It is not our problem.

[@michaelcoward1902]

@@bubba842 If you think that then you're more short sighted than a mole! Go build your 5th column somewhere else!

[@b_bobsch6785]

@@bubba842 Ever heard about the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances? Maybe you should read it.

[@leolion9535]

This caller is part of the people that say a Nigerian Surgeon has come to the UK to take our job meanwhile he did not even go to college or have a qualification apart from a red passport

[@edwardjames3054]

As an Irish person, im so sad to lose our closest neighbours & allies. ❤

[@The_Phoenix_Saga]

Literal Nazis? I'm glad to have said goodbye.

[@stegemme]

that's a generous thing to say. You don't get that much these days

[@sineadmurtagh943]

@@The_Phoenix_Saga literal nazis? The British have their faults but that’s a bit much. They’re not that bad - most of them anyway.

[@Ukbrummie]

As an englishman I apologise for people like this caller. Dont let him bring all of us down

[@tonyb9735]

As an Englishman, I too am sad about this ❤

[@bugwandis]

If he doesn't like the poor subsidising the rich, wait until he hears about the Tories.

[@noelfleming3567]

Sadly he probably votes tory

[@michaelcoward1902]

Give it six months and his newspapers will have him calling the poor things like "Scrounger", and i'll bet my last penny he was all too happy to call them that during Austerity too.

[@richarddunbar2963]

Oh dear we are doomed

[@happyapple4269]

Why? Cos of this old chap? Yeah, hes the problem.

[@dalightmaiso1553]

These Brexit people are now saying we need to go back into the world.

[@bravoalley228]

😂

[@LiquidMarvel]

They want to return to Empire exploitation and slavery

[@problemsolverthinktank859]

There’s a certain generation that thinks they know it all… no matter what you say, what facts you present they generally think nobody knows better than them. The entitlement of this generation/ group is beyond me.

[@HShango]

Boomers are the worst.... my (mother generation).

[@emilymcplugger]

@Problem Solver Think Tank So the question is why? Why do they think they know it all? Often when we think of generations and the difference in thinking it’s usually to have a go at the young, but when you’re young you ask questions. What do I want to be? Who do I want to be? How do I get there? Can we improve things? Why do things have to be this way? When you’re older it’s not about questions so much as answers, easy answers that make you feel knowledgeable. I think this want for easy answers is what has led so many older voters to be fooled. A long time ago I decided to ignore opinion and start looking at data myself and when you do that you realise that almost our entire political and economic outlook is based on myth.

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

You think this presenter has his fingers on the pulse of world affairs? He's an embarrassment to journalism.

[@amcc5887]

Absolutely spot on, that's the older generation for you 🙄

[@stegemme]

you're deluded if you think its a generational thing

[@RankinMsP]

'The flotsam and jetsam' in reference to human beings. I rest my case. The poor people subsidizing the rich ones/ business but..check notes..Dave supported Brexit and probably votes Tory Couldn't make it up.

[@rickparkinmoto]

"I'm not prepared to go back to a place where poor people subsidise big business" And he's in the UK. Where we have a Tory Government. It's pitiful how this caller has been brainwashed.

[@bubba842]

Thats quite literally Capitalism.

[@franktreml3145]

I really hope the EU never ever lets the UK back into the EU. Callers like this make me want the EU to keep the UK out forever.

[@EllieD.Violet]

Me too. They need half a century outside on their own on order to come to their senses.

[@kurtgodel5236]

Agreed.

[@giovannidepetris6335]

Let them ponder

[@sashabertold3731]

At this sad point, It's better if they're all left alone to contemplate,it may takes a hundred years or so😂😂😂 They abandoned reason for madness.🎉

[@GoldnDusty]

“That’s the EU’s fault!” Ah, I see, you want us to have our sovereignty, and also to have the EU’s as well. Sounds like a sensible merger that could take place. We could form a collective of nation states with governance agreeing the movement of peoples. We could even call it a union!

[@amarbyrd2520]

Somebody ought to make him actually define "sovereignty"

[@emiliajojo5703]

Truly sad Germany can't sell to the pacific.

[@ruinerblodsinn6648]

also all the money Germany is forced to give its neighbors. What a terrible existence to see the continent develop.

[@garrybarry4286]

A strict diet of Murdoch rags for old Dave

[@CaminoAir]

This caller would do well to remember that following Brexit the level of debate in several European countries about also leaving the EU died down. Brexit has been so badly handled and been so deeply problematic from the very beginning that it has served as a cautionary tale.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Er there are a few countries who still want to leave the EU… but she is too important for the new world order to die

[@claudioricci1]

I notice how ‘sovereignty’ basically just means not allow anyone into the country with callers like this. Let’s be honest, when people say ‘sovereignty’ it’s just a polite byword for racism.

[@namesurname2958]

I dont think it necessarily is, but theyre so poor at explaining what they mean, its almost impossible to believe otherwise.

[@ladyyunalesca7613]

With all due respect. The sooner these people shuffle off this mortal coil the better for this country.

[@LowPlainsDrifter60]

There still remains an ample younger stock to take their place.

[@michaelcoward1902]

@@LowPlainsDrifter60 true...gen X aren't much better.

[@feekygucker2678]

its not often I'm this crass... but (regarding the caller) what a pillock. An excellent example of why we need electoral pre-exams.

[@HShango]

Clearly that guy didn't do well in citizenship or history classes

[@kM-ij2ly]

But not voter ID? 🤔

[@feekygucker2678]

@@kM-ij2ly do you actually think you’re level with that question? 🤔

[@maryk.madachy2368]

I love listening to LBC KZbin videos. They make me feel so much better in my soul. It's so comforting to know that the U.S. is not the only country with these whack-a-doodle people. "We aren't sovereign BECAUSE we left the E.U." ????????????????

[@flitsertheo]

Yes but your whack-a-doodle people have easier access to guns. That's a problem.

[@thespiritof76.]

@@flitsertheo Yes and yours have easy access to knives and that's a problem, isn't it? At least with a gun a person has a chance to fight back, don't they?

[@flitsertheo]

@@thespiritof76.Everybody has easy access to knives which isn't a problem and even if it were we wouldn't start distributing guns to make it even worse.

[@kayb9592]

LBC please give Lewis the Drivetime slot permanently!

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

Why? He has limited knowledge of world affairs.

[@bobmac9627]

He is much better than Ian Dale

[@RAMBOIT.]

​@@bobmac9627 and Nick from the morning show

[@mintywebb]

The UK got more money from the marshall plan than Germany...

[@slumbercat]

As they say, you can't argue with stupidity.

[@maartenaalsmeer]

And how will the UK 'expand and get back into the world'? Brexit is done, the UK left the EU. There's only one way back: meeting all of the Copenhagen Criteria before applying, and being voted in by all 27 EU members. Very unlikely for years to come. So now the UK wants better trade deals. But it has nothing to offer the EU, not much leverage at all. The current agreements work fine for the EU. There's only one thing of value the UK has to offer to the EU: *political change* . Ditch the archaic system that got you into this mess: PR instead of FPTP, do something about those 800 unelected MP's, create a written constitution and *become a stable democracy that's trustworthy and honors it's agreements* . Fix that. And then there'll be room for a conversation.

[@danielcrafter9349]

Amen!

[@mwd331]

Fairly patronising, but essentially true. Let us worry about our affairs though please. We’ll rid ourselves of the tories first, which would be a start.

[@petergaskin1811]

Never forget Wallonia. 27 Counties and 3 regions = 30 votes. BTW you mustn't tell Brexiters that we are barely a democracy.

[@nigelhaworth1353]

Lewis really should know, never try to debate with an idiot. They’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[@Carlos12330]

Unfortunately from his accent this caller is a fellow countryman of mine,i can only apologise to the rest of the country for him,as my father used to say “every circus has its clowns “.

[@NinoBaggins]

Lewis is brilliant and I hope to hear much more of him on LBC and he was doing so well with this call … until he called asylum seekers coming over on small boats “illegal immigration” tut

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

Can you just walk into France tomorrow without any papers and not get arrested? I thought not, because that would be illegal. It works both ways.

[@kurtgodel5236]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Yes, I can.

[@johnBSadro]

Einstein famously said that there are only two infinite things: the size of the univers and the stupidity of human beings. This guy proves that he was absolutely right at least in 50% of what he said.

[@QueenRaven911]

As a Canadian who used to work in the UK, I left London for Germany because of Brexit. That was 2016, 7 years later, how are the Brits still blaming EU for this self-inflicted issue just goggles my mind. I just watched a documentry about a drop in 95% in EU au-pair in the UK, which used to be an affordable solution to the shortage in child care support in the UK. I'm not sure how Brexiteers are going to spin that into a positive outcome for the UK. When these EU au-pair worked in UK, they also contributed to the local economy by living and spending on the UK high streets. Of course, I don't expect brilliant Brexiteers to understand this simple math.

[@mimovk]

I have relief that the UK left as a EU citizen. We don’t need this kind of toxicity inside the Union. ✌🏼

[@DaveCampervan]

Also - Farage is now not your problem - he's confined to moaning about British people now

[@MikesPants]

The maddening thing is hearing him say 'The poor subsidising the rich'. He's angry for the right reasons... he's just hopelessly lost on who to yell at.

[@supreme_overlord]

That caller went full brexitard. You should never go full brexitard.

[@kurtgodel5236]

The brexcrement is strong with this one.

[@anthonygrayson7753]

OMG! And this guy gets a vote! Lower the voting age to 16 and cap it at 75!

[@elicarter5729]

Frightened.........by facts. 😂

[@TigerP1]

A gentleman who never had high education but learnt everything he knew at the University of life, never having spent more than a month outside his home town and yet feels privileged because he thinks "he's seen it all", I bet.

[@tonycollyweston6182]

More like the Daily Mail university.

[@Andy-ii3pj]

And this person vote counts just as much as everyone else's

[@kurtgodel5236]

Yes, but only in big numbers can such people do any harm.

[@Andy-ii3pj]

@@kurtgodel5236 there is big numbers of them in the uk

[@sashabertold3731]

Here we are

[@globalist1990]

"We couldn't control our borders." Schengen space: "What am I to you?"

[@elcristoph7380]

The man is basically nostalgic for the times of empire.

[@Greenpoloboy3]

This is what happens when you read The Sun newspaper, or The Daily Mail everyday

[@Twy87]

According to the caller, the EU was bad because the poor subsidised the rich, but the CPTPP (presumably his stand-in for the British Empire) is apparently some sort of worker's Shangri-La 😂

[@Mr_Reset]

Dave needs to listen to others outside of the voices in his head

[@trytellingthetruth.2068]

This presenter doesn't help by saying these illegal immigrants aren't coming from the EU.

[@Mr_Reset]

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 depends on how you look at it. Physically they are coming from the EU as they travel from France to the UK. If you are talking nationalities. Majority are not from the EU with Albania topping the list which as far as I know is not yet in the EU.

[@kurtgodel5236]

I am sure that's exactly what he has done over the last couple of years. This is the result.