The EVIL Is Defeated...But I'm Still Mad

[@Saberspark]

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[@cosmicrainbowclouds]

Eh I'll think about it

[@olleselin]

Sure

[@АллаПрокофьева-ц2ч]

Jeez another bot and please watch and review Eleanor's Secret [2009]

[@NanakPrasad-be4yi]

Saberspark you still suck

[@sharonlowman8806]

Where is the what ruined Christian animation are you gonna do it? I want it now saberSpark.

[@CaptainCat101]

I'm glad that the Lion King remake isn't relevant anymore, but it's not like Disney learned anything

[@olleselin]

Precisely

[@Ihartwalrusguy]

Yeah we just gotta wait until Mufasa this winter and see how it performs

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

It was completely expected from the moment it was announced. No one cares about National geographic lions fighting over who gets to keep what land or some shit. Now let's just make sure Snow White goed equally as unnoticed

[@ContagiousSponge]

They learned that an live action lion king movie makes a lot of money

[@Jollyjose251]

When will Disney learn that Lion King 2019 only made that money because of the masterpiece that was the original

[@LendriMujina]

The "highest grossing of all time" records get broken so often that I really have to wonder if factors other than popularity are mostly responsible for it. Like inflation and population growth. Case in point, if you adjust for inflation, the Lion King 1994 still beats Lion King 2019, even if only barely.

[@kurosakikun96]

Somebody else pointed out that adjusting for inflation Gone With the Wind made what would be over $6 billion in today's money, so yeah, they don't take inflation into account at all, because that would essentially be impossible to beat

[@Jose04537]

Globalization, population increase and poorer countries getting richer (new markets) play a big role in movies making more money. For example the original Snow White 1937 made 1.5 billions adjusted to inflation, which is a massive feat, considering how limited was the media reach, how the population of the world was just 2.2 billions and with much higher poverty rate (imposible to calculate for lack of data and inaccessibility to most remote areas, unlike today).

[@michaelstrong5383]

_"If you adjust for inflation, Lion King 1994 still beats Lion King 2019, even if only barely."_ Good. Good. That makes me happy.

[@PStarification]

It's right besides "New York Times best seller!" printed on 75% book covers.

[@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479]

They don't take that movie into account because it had a lot of rescreenings across the decades. Much like how nobody considers Avatar's rescreenings as legit because they shouldn't combine the initial screenings with the new ones similar to extended editions or definitive editions of films that just colour grade it better.​@@kurosakikun96

[@Toontastic_Juju]

As much as I am super happy Inside Out 2 dethroned the king, it is still sad to see that 8 out of the 10 highest grossing animated films are all sequels, spin offs and remakes.

[@Gamerboss40YT]

I guess originality is a thing of the past

[@cdex-ra1771]

Hopefully something else will out gross it cause it ain’t even that worthwhile of a movie either.

[@ContagiousSponge]

That's because when a movie is popular, people naturally wanna see more of it.

[@EL-uj1pl]

@@Gamerboss40YTIt's really not, you just pay too much attention to the big movies. Even big IP titles have been doing unique things, like Godzilla Minus One, Star Wars Andor, Spider-Verse, that sort of thing. Originality or the lack of it isn't the problem. The problem is studios being too scared to take a risk with unique stories (based on IP or not), and people who don't do anything but pay to see their childhood again. The Lion King remake wasn't astroturfed.

[@Gamerboss40YT]

@@ContagiousSponge True

[@Tevildo]

20:25 - The most insulting moment in Disney history? Wait until the live-action _Robin Hood_ comes out. Or, perhaps, pray that it never does.

[@thesatelliteslickers907]

the original created an entire generation of furries. a live action remake would turn furies into regular people

[@studiobuckeycolours]

What about Song of the south thought?

[@Tevildo]

@@studiobuckeycolours Insulting to the memory of James Baskett, perhaps, but not to their entire audience.

[@studiobuckeycolours]

@Tevildo it absolutely did damage the disney brand. And it insulted a lot more people

[@DaYapGuy]

​@@studiobuckeycoloursNot really. Nobody knows this movie exists...

[@zacharymccoy7091]

The reason inflation is never considered when discussing this is Gone With the Wind with inflation adjusted made over 6 billion dollars today. So no movie from today could ever match that.

[@DarkElfDiva]

Exactly. Can't have bragging rights if you actually tell the truth.

[@Furry_Lou]

And for the same reason i think that makes Snow white the highest grossing animated movie of all times and the 2nd highest of all movies behind Gone with the Wind ! Which is crazy considering they've been release just months apart !

[@Tevildo]

It's not really that big a gap. Adjusted for inflation, _Gone With the Wind_ made $4.3 bn and _Avatar_ made $3.9 bn, with _Titanic_ close behind. A modern, good, original film could still take the #1 spot. It's the "good" and "original" elements the studios need to work on.

[@andalilbitqueer]

​@@Furry_Lou correct me if im wrong because my source is wikipedia, but that isn't exactly true because Snow White released in 1937 and GWTW released in 1939

[@Furry_Lou]

@@andalilbitqueer ah yes you're right ! 😅

[@Jonathan_Collins]

Didn't surprise me that the movie about literal emotions had the only accurate portrayal of an anxiety attack since Puss in Boots 2.

[@imbluedubbadee]

When that scene came up I honestly thought she was gonna pass out, it was really well done and felt so accurate 🙏🏻

[@dimwarlock]

I don't even know why this comment should be relevant on this video. I'm having a realistic anxiety attack right now.

[@ma3mc3mu-X]

@@Jonathan_Collins Puss in Boots 2 did it better. It also made me learn about the Deep Pressure Therapy.

[@xijinping4418]

@test-j7y Consume sodium hypochlorite

[@NerdFromColorado]

@test-j7yBots aren’t allowed here I’m afraid

[@antsrant]

RIP James Earl Jones 🪦

[@olleselin]

Long Live the King🦁👑

[@fangthedergon1863]

May he and his kin find peace.

[@HellfireJerk]

Long live the king and may the peace and force be with him. However, may @test-j7y leave life. Or hopefully the internet. It's not working TROLL.

[@SolarPlanet1]

His death was not only a bummer, but it happened on my birthday, making it even sadder for me

[@magicdolphin3090]

rip

[@axmoran]

Worst experience i had was a kid reading the subtitles out loud through the entire film. Just take your kid to the dubbed version.

[@c-o-b-o-2010]

When I started to see Inside Out 2 making bank, two things came to my mind: 1) Good for Disney, and I hope those who saw it enjoyed it (which it seems most did) 2) This is going to encourage Disney to just milk existing IPs further, and while Inside Out 2 was beloved, the other stuff will be rushed and not be as praised. I guarantee the latter is going to happen.

[@spaceboyctstudios2934]

When you say “rush”, is that in terms of story or in terms of animation? Because for Pixar, according to a X/Twitter friend of mine, Pixar doesn’t sleep on animation quality. They almost focus too much on it, with photo realistic imagery. It's almost becoming a problem with Pixar, since the photo realism takes away from the expression and creativity. Sure, “Luca” and “Turning Red” were more stylized, but then you got movies like “Toy Story”, “Lightyear”, and especially “Soul”. Those movies have cartoon-y faces, but cartoon-y faces don’t mesh well with realistic skin and hair. I mean, why else do people hate the animation for “Justin and the Knights of Valour” or “Monster Family”? Also, fun fact: Inside Out 2 Additional Animator, Anna Gopin, was also an animator for the 2016 “Ratchet & Clank” movie. Think about that the next time you sleep, alongside the cancelled “Sly Cooper” movie.

[@Themoonishereagain]

1) When the first Inside Out came out, I loved it and I immediately wanted a sequel. Now that I watched Inside Out 2, I enjoyed it as well, even though I still prefer the original. 2) Pete Docter gave an interview recently where he said this exact thing. It was headed to that direction regardless of how successful Inside Out 2 would end up being. Now that it became the highest-grossing animated film of all time, there's no way they won't double down hard with the sequels.

[@c-o-b-o-2010]

@@spaceboyctstudios2934 Mostly story. If there’s anything Pixar does well that everyone can agree on is good animation, but it’s the story that really makes or breaks a film. So, I’m concerned that Disney is just going to go “make a sequel for this now” regardless if the story makes sense such as from what we know of Toy Story 5. It’s not sounding good at all.

[@c-o-b-o-2010]

@@Themoonishereagain I’m very glad you enjoyed Inside Out 2. I just have no interest in seeing it personally. Yeah, and it’s sad. I will say though, if these movies actually turn out great, then I have no problem admitting I was wrong and may watch them, but given their track record lately, I don’t think these films will be that good regardless how much money they make.

[@spaceboyctstudios2934]

@@c-o-b-o-2010 Yep. Also, did you like the fun fact I gave you about Inside Out 2?

[@charlesmoser5287]

When I saw Dune 2 in theaters, an ambulance or fire truck with sirens blaring happened to pass by outside just as the worm scene kicked in, and I almost, ALMOST shouted "WORM ALERT!" But I didn't. Because it was a public theater and everyone there had signed up for Dune 2, not my impromptu comedy act. Instead, I just told my friends the story and made "worm alert" into our own inside joke.

[@masterace9543]

Peak theater etiquette

[@kotzpenner]

Based

[@Scrofar]

You're actually the champion for holding back. Thank you for being a good movie-going soul.

[@KIKAN_THE_RAT]

Would have woke me up from all the nothing that happens on that snoozefest of a movie

[@jimjimmers8571]

God gives his greatest soldiers their toughest battles.

[@thomastheconjunctionfriend7908]

What about What Ruined The Thomas the tank Engine Franchise?

[@Saberspark]

Still working on it!

[@thomastheconjunctionfriend7908]

@@Saberspark Ok Thanks!☺️☺️😊😊

[@CineMasterDamian]

Answer, Britt Alcroft left

[@codered1132]

Once they started using CGI

[@christophermoore5007]

CGI shit.

[@toonitedytp4194]

The sad thing is that Disney will learn the wrong lesson from Inside Out 2’s box office success. While yes it did make money because it’s a sequel and inflation, it did good because of how good of a movie it is. Personally not as good as the first movie, but definitely one of Pixar’s best sequels. If a movie is actually going people will spread the word because and they’ll end up seeing it. Not all sequels do good. There will be a point in time where people will eventually get tired of sequels.

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

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[@ScooterinAB]

Yep. It did well because it was a good movie. But all a spreadsheet cares about is that it's a sequel and sequels good. Meanwhile, original films bad because Lightyear might have had two girls kissing and that's bad, and it's failure had nothing to do with it coming out during COVID, not being marketed, and being a movie no one asked for. Sadly, there will not be a point in time when people are tired of sequels. The first film sequel was in 1916. Hollywood has been milking that shit for over 100 years. The only way that stoops is when we stop encouraging bad behaviour.

[@michaelstrong5383]

I know I'm basically celebrating Disney overthrowing Disney, but if it means that that soulless Lion King remake isn't the highest-grossing animated film of all time anymore, I'll take whatever little victory I can get.

[@arrowghost]

Lion King remake at #1 is an anomaly and fluke anyway. I rather have a sequel or spin-off to win the #1 spot over remake. BUT, original new 1st movie will always prevail.

[@TheDanceMan567]

Technically, it's Pixar. And they tend to put more emphasis and effort into their films than Disney does (even though they're owned by them). Even with that, I'm still happy.

[@massgunner4152]

It works if you stop projecting Disney as a monolithic entitiy.

[@littleperson8315]

1:17 wait... scar just slaps mufasa in the remake??? wtf thats so lame and anticlimatic

[@RichardCox0]

Lame and anticlimactic could describe the whole remake

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

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[@piedpiper1185]

3:05 - You don't hate the theater. You hate people. I can fully understand that.

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Just certain people who don't know how to shut it.

[@pokehybridtrainer]

Nah it's the theater experience lately. Kids talking to the movies are not to a MST3k way but obnoxious so everyone in the theater can hear. Adults with their phones having full conversations, why the hell would they do it in a theater. Buy the movie for home then.

[@wesst.422]

When I saw Inside Out 2 in theater the audience was wonderful but the theater sucked! The floors were super sticky, It had one of the smallest screens I've seen in a theater, the speakers weren't loud enough, and there was a fire alarm that needed it's batteries replaced periodically beeping throughout the entire film LMAO Looking back on it I can't really be upset, it was a good movie and I was able to tune everything out pretty okay. It was more just funny to me how comedically bad of an experience it was yet everyone still made do and had a good time. XD

[@tkf15]

The final straw for me was when an obnoxious couple sucked face for the first 20 minutes of the film. Could hear the lip smacking and everything. I know people do that (as well as whisper and look at their phones), but post lock down it got so much worse. It's just not worth it anymore. Rather wait until a movie is on a streaming service and watch it at home

[@xacmashe3852]

Nothing about the theater experience incentivizes me either. Overpriced food. Shitty seats. Stinky theaters (one smelled like weed) and that's all without the other people ruining it for me. Theaters fucking suck.

[@abthedragon4921]

This list highlights to issues I have surrounding discussion about the animation industry: 1. People are always complaining about studios making nothing but reboots, sequels, prequels, adaptations, remakes etc. and ask "why don't they make anything original anymore?" But we see here that those things consistently make money! Regardless of what critics and audiences may have thought about those movies, people went to see them, and they made companies billions of dollars! This is why I don't bother even touching the Disney remakes; I think most of them don't need to exist, but they've consistently made money in the past, so I've just accepted that they're here to stay, for now anyway. Also, side note, there is plenty of original stuff being made nowadays but they often come from non-mainstream sources and few people seem to put in the effort to search for these gems. And even when they do come from a mainstream place, people still often let them flop. 2. I see this phrase brought up a lot of "Just make good movies; if they're good, they'll make money." Yeah, no! I've seen a lot of well crafted, well written, beautifully made films crash and burn because they either weren't marketed well or because people didn't want to give them a chance. If "objective quality" guaranteed box office success like so many people seem to think, this list would be VERY different. Disney has experienced this, Dreamworks has experienced this, several studios have experienced this. Obviously, this isn't limited to animation, I see this all the time with Live Action too but this video is about animation so I'm just sticking to that. Edit: Also, I'm aware there are a lot of other factors effecting box office returns such as movie theaters getting more expensive, streaming being more convenient, the time of year a movie gets released, how many theaters a movie is shown in etc.

[@OverlordZeroULTIMA]

On 2., there's a very good point made here. One of my online friends had mentioned that at the same time Lilo and Stitch was coming out, so was Treasure Planet. Both very well done movies, but Disney prioritized the former and the latter pretty much busted despite having great characters, gorgeous animation, and a unique theme (steampunk pirates? I'll take more of those!). Now people are learning about movies like Treasure Planet due to videos and streaming - while Lilo and Stitch was practically already crammed down their throats (which I loved that movie too! I liked both). I can see Disney being afraid to take risks - especially while being still primarily family / kid oriented - so obviously decided to make the silly alien and little girl duo a bigger focus. However, I still wouldn't say it was "better" or "worse" than Treasure Planet, whether or not people may had been "too scared" of the themes within. I mean, monsters and aliens are very similar anyway so both had potential to "scare" young viewers. /shrugs Main difference between the aliens in both movies would be that L&S had a child accompanying theirs while TP had grown adults, one of whom could've been seen as a scary guy. Both movies were great, imo, it's just said that Disney decided to pick one over the other - despite both having great potential.

[@noobmasterruben5167]

Both Elemental and Fall Guy had little marketing. Inside out 2 has so much marketing and spoilers

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

The problem is very simple, in a capitalist society where you "vote with your dollars," whoever has the most money, gets the most votes. And the more money you make, the less intelligent you are... not _always,_ just that seems to be the general consensus, and every billionaire is a poster child for that idea. "Oh, so the smartest people are the poorest?" Now, I didn't say _that._ The smartest usually end up somewhere in the middle class, though being intelligent doesn't guarantee great media literacy. The point is that films catering to "the lowest common denominator" tend to do best because... well, they literally cater to the lowest common denominator. The only possible solution I can think of, would be to charge people a percentage of their wealth to see movies. Nobody would ever agree to this in a million years, but hear me out for kicks and giggles. If each movie cost 1% of your monthly salary, then at $1k a month, it would be $10 which is about what it is now. Homeless people would get to see them free, and Elon Musk would pay 80 million per movie, with everyone who makes something in-between paying some intermediary amount. Now that richer people have to pay more for their tickets, everyone gets the same voting power. Also, we start calculating by the _number_ of tickets sold, and never have to adjust for inflation again! Which _does_ mean dividing the past films' totals by the then-current ticket prices to get approximate ticket numbers. In conclusion, if Batman had a week, he couldn't list all the reasons this wouldn't work; but thank you for rēading my Ted Talk anyhow.

[@TheOrian34]

It's the same issue in the video game side. People cry about the garbage AAA games that keep releasing while the great indies aren't that successful, but the junk food games still get the most money, why would they stop? Many people don't even know games beyond the 2K or CoD games.

[@ajbXYZcool]

Generally, you need people to know about somethibg before they can choose whether or not to pay for it. Sure, something being good, or great even, can allow word of mouth to spread the word about it (and increase the chance of converting that into $), but if it starts with low visibility, that limits the possible maximum revenue gained from it. (That is to say I agree with you)

[@rasengdori13]

“why do studios only make remakes, reboots, and sequels?!” Studios: “because it’s the only thing you watch”

[@Themoonishereagain]

THIS. The same people who always complain that studios only make franchise movies, sequels, prequels, remakes, reboots etc. are usually the same people who only watch those movies instead of any original ones.

[@michaelstrong5383]

If you look past whatever the big major studios are releasing, you could find plenty of hidden gems that try to do something different. That's why indie and foreign films exist.

[@optimumplatinum2640]

@@michaelstrong5383 goes for everything too especially games, so many ppl complain about the "slop" of games recently that they cant look past that and miss out on the smaller great games

[@abthedragon4921]

@@Themoonishereagain This! This! THIS!! It annoys me to no end how people endlessly complain about Hollywood not making anything "new" or "original" but then those same people don't put in the work to support the original stuff that does get made. Like, they complain about a problem but do nothing to actually work towards a solution! Like it's understandable that people say studios don't take risks as much s they used to, but audiences are complicit in this too!

[@Cubeytheawesome]

@@Themoonishereagainthat’s why I’m so upset hardly anyone liked Ruby Gillman or Migration. I actually thought Migration was funny

[@mathieuleader8601]

I'm annoyed that a cinematic Batman Beyond movie was canned so that a Minecraft movie came into being.

[@LordArikado]

Never forget that we could have gotten a Genndy Tartakovsky-directed Popeye movie, but Sony thought The Emoji Movie was the better option.

[@cosmicspacething3474]

@@LordArikado I was going to say, it’s just like when that happened

[@mathieuleader8601]

@@LordArikado I think once Popeye goes into the public domain we will see Tartakovsky's Popeye in some form.

[@skyesyd221]

@@LordArikadonot really

[@anzaia2164]

Nooo I didn't know that, that would have been somuch cooler (though admittedly also very fuck-up-able)

[@Mariofanaticanimations]

The animation guild should be on strike by now for no more sequels, live action remakes from Disney and universal pictures like httyd remake, more personal movies aka original movies, stop canceling completed animated movies by turning them into tax write downs, end KZbin for mislabeling videos as “made for kids” Coppa, no more saying that animation is just for kids, etc

[@Cubeytheawesome]

Can we also get Warner bros to Greenlight Pibby and Make the Minecraft movie not look like a modern day FoodFight?

[@drewo.127]

@@CubeytheawesomeCoyote Vs. Acme please!

[@mattwolf7698]

That would be a pretty dumb reason strike.

[@Mariofanaticanimations]

@@mattwolf7698 no it isn’t it’s a problem that KZbin has

[@jmann6368]

@@Cubeytheawesome I find it both hilarious and disappointing that Warner Bros never greenlit Pibby and shelved Coyote Vs. Acme but allowed complete garbage like Velma to get two seasons

[@theoldman7739]

LA The Lion King was insulting. It was a carbon copy of the cartoon. At least LA Aladdin had a few moments of levity with Will Smith jokes and a slight variation to the story. AND LA LION KING DID NOT HAVE BE PREPARED. The best song of the movie was completely dropped.

[@eldupont3095]

this. exactly this. I went to see the LA Cinderella and I loved it because it was NOT a shot-for-shot remake and i think it clarified the message of the original movie for modern audiences. it was great. I also saw Maleficent, because it was an interesting re-telling of the story. Because I liked Cinderella so much, I went to see The Jungle Book, and I disliked how similar it was to the animated version. It was still different, but it was way more similar. After that, I knew as soon as I saw Beauty and the Beast being promoted that it was over. Everything else they came out with was gunna suck because it wasn't about improving the story anymore, like it had been for some of the earlier ones. A shot-for-shot CGI clone of TLK with expressionless characters is inexcusable. Just put the original back in theatres.

[@Dumbledoresarmy13]

I can only assume they realized they'd have to come up with some different visuals than "parody Triumph of the Will" because even though its a song about an evil guy staging a coup, marketing thinks it might be offensive to reference a real dictatorship. And coming up with something new to replace it would take actual effort.

[@Jose04537]

Not a carbon copy, worse. Beyonce was obnoxious and I only saw the music video of the movie.

[@tomatosoup1304]

That's exactly why LA Cinderella was so popular, it honoured the original whilst also playing out for younger audiences

[@michaelstrong5383]

_"AND LA LION KING DID NOT HAVE BE PREPARED."_ It did. It was just a bad version of the song where Scar just talks instead of sings.

[@matthewchandler7845]

My favorite movie theater experience was End Game....the crowd was electric! When Spider man showed up we all cheered like idiots....it was great. I felt like a kid hearing all the cake and ice cream I could eat was being sent to my house for a month.....NICE!

[@rosiv9617]

Is that Inuyasha in a Papa Louie game?

[@AnnoyingSquib]

Ultimately one day I feel we will have a resurgence of original animation content when things ultimately become too stagnant but for now sequels and remakes are just too lucrative and safe for studios while original stuff is too risky. There were many great films that were made recently yet none of them make nearly as much. As much as I personally loathe the industry's creative bankruptcy, I don't blame them for playing it safe. I just hope the SFX teams and animators get all the things they are asking for and unionize. It's the working conditions of the industry that made me back out as an animation student long ago and while I miss working with my colleagues on projects, I feel I dodged a bullet and I'm happier for it.

[@drewo.127]

Regardless of what happens in the industry, I’m sticking with the indie scene until further notice!

[@alexcantrell700]

I'm sad that The Aristocats and all dogs go to heaven aren't high on that list. Secret of Nihm was also pretty awesome

[@mattwolf7698]

Inflation alone would cause them to be very far down. Granted if you adjust it, they still aren't high.

[@Jose04537]

Balto ♥

[@millierosse1558]

Alot of the most beloved animation didn’t do well at the box office which is insane especially the non Disney material aka don bluth the GOAT

[@VergilLunar]

Evil never dies, it just changes shape

[@ExtremeWreck]

IO2 is a new form of said evil.

[@Blanktester685]

same can be said for its opposite

[@Gaia_BentosZX5]

Only just now people on twitter just noticed how bad it's gotten with KZbin letting content mills run amok. from Fandom Menace conspiracy theories, to Digital Circus content farms. Almost they have learned nothing from Elsagate.

[@shadow1150zz]

Thankfully too

[@Jack-sy8mr]

And even _Frozen_ is loosely based on _The Snow Queen_

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

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[@Wild_Card69]

Honestly, the "Highest Grossing Animated Film" title just feels redundant to me, because it always enforces the notion that animated movies are only highly valued when they are profitable. Echelon studios like Disney, DreamWorks and Illumination--regardless if their recent projects are of high quality--make the financial success of their films appear easy even when their movies are mid or below. So what would be the point of being ecstatic about how much they make at the box office when people are less concerned with the artistic merit of a single film?

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

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[@delphoxhoopa7289]

I'm honestly only watching it because I heard Keith David was going to be in it. And now with the passing of James Earl Jones (RIP), I'm curious to see what kind of dedication to they'll do for him.

[@Sugarman96]

The cynic in me says that Disney will just keep using James Earl Jones's AI voice in projects, he even gave them permission.

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

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[@superpan218]

Nobody asked for live-action remakes of Disney's animated films.

[@rasengdori13]

The billions of dollars they make means a lot of people are LITERALLY asking Disney for these movies. They are answering to the market. That is how it’s always worked.

[@Jose04537]

​​@@rasengdori13It's nostalgia. But that can only take you so long, because they are losing gen alpha to youtube.

[@mycomnithegreat434]

Unfortunately some are fun yet others are... Meh Best example is Maleficent and Cruella. Maleficent filled in the blanks on her back story, and is a fun AU. Answers some questions too, like why was Aurora cursed specifically, why did Maleficent not have wings despite being a fairy, how did Aurora survive when the fairies seem to not know how to cook, etc. It was not meant to replace Sleeping Beauty, and was a nice enough standalone. Cruella took a villain whose best trait that she was evil for no good reason, and did... That. Like yeah the tragic story leading up was good! Her having a hateful reaction towards dogs bc someone used trained dogs to kill her mom? Good! But when she did take revenge on her, it kind of dropped. Like if she inherited all that money, and was a famous fashion designer, why risk it all just for dog fur coats? -_- they made her TOO successful for it to make sense why she would then go on to be Cruella. They should have reused her son backstory from Descendants. Imagine, when her mother is killed, her mentor somehow got guardianship. She would then go on to torment Cruella with her dogs, leave her alone in dog parks despite her phobia, etc. Meanwhile those dogs get their own bedroom, three square meals a day, and all the free time in the world. Meanwhile Cruella is getting the Cinderella treatment. Then, when the mentor inevitably starts stealing Cruella design, Cruella orchestrated her destruction. Unfortunately, before she could publicly expose her, the mentor dies. So who's left to take direct revenge on? Who would be powerless to stop it? The dogs. BOOM. Plot created with logic!

[@Peridot420]

When Disney first started talking about live action remakes, most people seemed to be pretty excited. However they showed they could not be trusted to do them properly.

[@wet-read]

​@@rasengdori13 Asking and consuming anyway after something becomes available are two different things.

[@savvystarfire6667]

I went to the cinema recently, it was £50 for two people, 2 popcorn and 1 drink! I'd go more if it was more affordable!

[@JSB9784]

Yeah, food is stupidly overpriced so I smuggle my own food, usually no more than £10 for that plus tickets (not including the occasional Five Guys dinner after a movie)

[@LordArikado]

Most of that cost came from the food. Theaters don't make much off of ticket sales since a cut goes to the movie's distributor, so they massively overcharge on snacks and drinks to make up for that.

[@Frenchaboo]

You can eat lunch at home and bring your own snacks in the bag... they legally can't kick you out for having your own food, first they'd have to prove it wasn't bought at their bar and you can say you need your own drinks etc. because of some medicine or illness. That's on you for wasting money.

[@croskerk]

Unsure the conversion to uh USD, and woke up upon making this comment I go to a theater that charges only 7 dollars per person (and cheaper for student/veteran discount) Me seeing that it is 50 euros, which Im guessing about 56 USD is super pricey. Holy crap

[@JSB9784]

@@croskerk it's Pound Sterling but you're more or less right. And yeah, tickets alone aren't too bad but the food is where the prices get stupid.

[@critter_core]

I actually don’t mind sequels remakes and reboots, as long as they’re GOOD. Most tend to be bad, so there’s this hesitation from the audience. But gosh we LOVE when a sequel turns out great. Inside Out and Inside Out 2 is an example of this. A good franchise (so far)

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙

[@samseddmedia]

I've heard that Dreamworks used to go HARD with their sequels. To name a few examples: Shrek 2 How to Train Your Dragon 2 Kung Fu Panda 2 Puss In Boots: The Last Wish How to Train Your Dragon 3

[@LoraLoibu]

@@samseddmedia the original Kung-Fu Panda trilogy goes hard

[@manyescoolDhamxhdeshds]

I still don’t understand why content farms go after Inside Out 2… Disney needs to solve this problem to prevent content farms for using their new sequel of Inside Out!

[@Cubeytheawesome]

Because everyone is afraid that if they take down something that isn’t made by them, people will think they’re Nintendo! If it weren’t for cowardice, we could have prevented Benjixscarlett from getting his gross hands on BFDI and Inside out 2

[@Gamerboss40YT]

One word: children

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙

[@jonathanwade3882]

@@Cubeytheawesome Til this day, fuck nintendo (as a business)

[@nikoletakrejci1517]

The way The Boy and the heron is narrated is so interesting. It feels like the movie gives up on having cohesive story midway, and instead tries to 'talk' to the viewer directly. I'd really like to see more experimentation with storytelling in movies. I think it would help them to feel less same-y and make each one stand out more. :)

[@drackyslime]

I think there is a cohesive story to be had in the film, but it does expect the viewer to “feel” the film and unravel its themes to in a more personal and much more subtle manner. For someone like me it worked wonderfully and I find the film immensely beautiful The problem is very few people tend to be in a position like myself, and corporations like Disney tend to try and appeal to that demographic who only largely want movies to be a way to kill 2 hours and maybe have a catchy song or some humor to laugh at. I saw boy and the heron with my sister and cousin, and while I thought the film was outstanding, both my sister and cousin walked out of it confused, if not a little annoyed by the movie for being “confusing”, “weird”, and “not making sense”. It’s a hard pill to swallow because I agree 100% with you here but when money is going to be made, I don’t think Disney or similar large entities will ever reach for a 1/3 enjoying audience like the statistics on my viewing. Compare that to Inside Out 2, which my parents, sister, and several of my cousins all went to see multiple times and loved. I think the movie is fine, but it is undeniably safe and certainly not subtle or experimental. You hit the nail on the head, but I think the reality is we better get used to something like Boy and the Heron being a very large exception rather than something that’ll ever start setting standards for the general film output like this

[@nikoletakrejci1517]

@@drackyslime I see nothing wrong in movies being made mainly for entertainment/general audience. But the thing is, movies like that are supposed to be made for the sake of funding movies that are more artistic/experimental. This last step sadly got lost somewhere in the process. How sad it is for the purpose of your company to be nothing but a money slot machine. Also, I actually think Inside out 2 is really enjoyable, if one knows bits and pieces about developmental psychology and tries to figure out how artists tried to portray changes in a maturing mind.

[@drackyslime]

@@nikoletakrejci1517 for sure. Nothing wrong with something general but it sure does feel dull and exude missed potential when someone as big as Disney is exclusively playing to what is safest instead of even trying to push boundaries like they used to. I know they’re capable, and even if they weren’t they certainly can afford to become capable- but it seems like a quick dollar is more important and requires a lot less creative effort. And inside out 2 was fine imo, I don’t have any problems with it aside from it just not doing all that much for me. I love that my family loved it and that it got people excited to go to the theaters and stuff regardless. I’ve studied psychology quite a bit and was able to project some firsthand experience onto it too and there’s definitely some fun and interesting stuff to takeaway from it in that sense but just overall wasn’t really my cup of tea and didn’t have much staying power to my own self. Glad you enjoyed it though and hopefully best case scenario something a little safer like this can still be really beloved by people and make money *and* be funding put towards more experimental stuff too so both sides win and nourish each other. Here’s to hoping, atleast !

[@NotOnLand]

The problem with sequels/reboots/remakes/spinoffs is that when an original idea comes out, it has _years_ to build up a fanbase, and when a followup to it is made all of that goodwill is transferred to it. Even if that 2nd movie is bad or just mediocre, that initial wave of viewers still hits until enough bad press can push it back. Even more so if it's the newest in a line of successful movies

[@Glasshouse828]

Hell even Frozen is loosely based on Hans Christian Anderson’s “The Snow Queen” (or at least it was supposed to be). the highest grossing animated film that is an entirely original IP is Zootopia which didn’t even make the top 10

[@ChrimsonFoxdon]

I think this list definitely shows how just because a movie makes a ton of money doesn't necessarily make it good. At least in the eyes of most creatives. But I also think this really shows how much of a disconnect there is between creatives and the general population and business people. I think this also shows how people don't actually know what they want. I'm guilty of this too. A lot of people I talk to, whether they consider themselves creatives or not, are always talking about how they want something new, something they've never seen before. But then when a new thing does come out, no one goes to see it; instead everyone goes to see the 234th Marvel movie or something. I think that happens simply because it's familiar or nostalgic. With the economy being the way it is right now, people are really pinching pennies, and movie theaters are not cheap pastimes. It would be a shame to spend $30+ to go see a movie and it turns out you don't like it. But even if people had extra income, they tend to choose things they're familiar with. I think it's simply trying to chase that happiness you felt while watching the first movie. This feeling can also be attached to certain studios (Disney, for example) or creators, which in my opinion is why when something new does come along, it's way more likely to still perform better financially if it's attached to a big studio. This doesn't always happen of course, but it is a pattern I've noticed over the years. Lastly, I believe this really shows how the general public still just... doesn't take animation seriously. A lot of people still see it as just for kids, or solely for crude humor. Which is just far from the case!! Not saying that kid's animation or adult comedy is not welcome, of course. I think that's how most of us got into animation in the first place. It just kinda baffles me that people will completely skip a movie just because it's animated. For example, I've seen a lot of people say that they're going to skip the new LOTR movie coming out because it's animated. Anyway, all of this being said, I think it just shows how pressed and contained the animation industry is right now. I think we really need to be taking more risks and experimentation if we want to start having new great movies and shows, which means that the big guys up top need to start sharing some of the pie so to speak.

[@drewo.127]

@@ChrimsonFoxdon well said dude! Well said!👍

[@Waltman13]

Inside Out 2 being #1 is honestly really funny to me because it's the last film I would ever expect to beat Lion King 2019. I mean yeah that shitshow of a film deserved to be dethroned (as it was literally just a worse version of the '94 original), but really??? Inside Out 2??? Look, I enjoyed the film and even consider it to be one of Pixar's better sequels in recent years, but #1 of all time??? That's just giving it WAY too much credit. It's place on top feels more like "a film that beated TLK 2019" rather than "THE film to take down TLK 2019" if that makes any sense. Not entirely against it, but I do find it odd...

[@MoonSpiritChannel]

The animation industry can do better, but the mainstream audience out there needs to let go of the "cartoons are only for kids" mentality. Cartoons can appeal to the adults if they try them. Just because they look funny and silly, it doesn't mean they should only cater to the young ones. But I'm just so glad Lion King 2019 was dethroned by a much better movie, especially one that isn't egregiously made just to make money.

[@HobbCap]

7:00 skip the sponsor if you want to

[@RegularSammykid2]

Thank you 😊

[@vaclavmacgregor2464]

9:33 Ellen:"Just keep swimming,just keep swimming,just keep swimming"Until she swam to hell.....

[@Nameless_mixes]

I don’t know if I’m overestimating anime or underestimating companies like Disney, Illumination, and even Dreamworks. I’m just shocked that something like “Spirited Away” or “Demon Slayer Mugen Train” weren’t even in the top ten. They weren’t even in the top fifty when I checked the list. But hey, shout out to the Simpson’s Movie for making the list!

[@eldupont3095]

Ghibli, and honestly anime in general, is not really very well known in the West. It's got a ton of popularity expressed on the internet, but if you got 10 average American families in a room and said "who can tell me what Studio Ghibli is" i doubt they could answer you - I imagine it's similar in Europe. Most of the movies on this list did well in both Asia AND the West. Ghibli gets screened here, and people see it, but it doesn't pull Pixar sized audiences. And I've never heard people talking about it in day to day life either.

[@Nameless_mixes]

@@eldupont3095I’d say that’s a spot on explanation 👍

[@Tevildo]

Demon Slayer Mugen Train is #3 on the "traditional" list, behind TLK (1994) and The Simpsons Movie.

[@DrabAntOfSpruceHollow]

2:28 I’m sorry I can’t get over your pronunciation of movie theater. 😭❤️ love from Chicago. I really tried to ignore it, but I kept going back! Am I the only one?

[@Viv1ann0]

The ater

[@senselesschiId]

Théé ater. BEHEHDHF

[@legoguy228]

Interior crocodila alligator

[@pinkdruid2347]

I just watched The Prince of Egypt again last light because it’s on Netflix right now. This list just goes to show that “highest grossing” and “best” are two very different things. These are some AMAZING movies that are aren’t on that list. Or that are even considered financial failures, like Atlantis or Treasure Planet. Money is obviously important. But so is art, and so is artists actually enjoying their jobs and being proud of their work.

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

It's not called the movie business for nothing

[@mileven3ggo3njoyer]

The Lion King 2019 remake is like the epitome of what those “What blank will look like in 2013” memes were mocking

[@Cubeytheawesome]

By extent, the Minecraft movie (which I hope gets remade or cancelled) is literally cashing in on that. Seriously, that’s basically the what the entire movie will likely be!

[@mileven3ggo3njoyer]

@@Cubeytheawesome Ya that’s the most recent example. They need to continue working on that film or nobody will like it. It’s minecraft so it pretty much secured family demographics but the generations who grew up with Minecraft will be disappointed.

[@Inkan1969]

It's a shame that James Earl Jones's last movie will be "Mufasa: the Lion King".

[@Little1Cave]

I don’t see a credit for him, so he might not even have a voice role in it. But there will definitely be an “In Memory of James Earl Jones” at the end.

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

It's all about young Mufasa, so he doesn't even _sound_ like James Earl Jones? He's gonna be some nobody named Aaron Pierre.

[@Inkan1969]

@@Wendy_O._Koopa I think JEJ has some lines at the beginning, as a narrator telling his(Mufasa's) story.

[@olleselin]

YESSSSSS!!!!!! THE ATROCIOUS REMAKE HAS BEEN BEATEN AT THE WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE

[@arrowghost]

It's an anomaly and a fluke anyways, Lion King should not deserve the #1 spot. Congratulations for Inside Out 2.

[@rainbowdragonflies1134]

But unfortunately at the cost of no interest or investment being put into ideas for brand new stories because anything new is too much of a gamble.

[@mistermisfortune13]

It's an exception, not the norm. Don't get your hopes up.

[@LordArikado]

Congratulations to Disney for snatching the number 1 spot away from...Disney, I guess?

[@Tenchi10]

Since the pandemic, a lot of theaters have downsized their seats in favor of recliners, and even food and drink service! Some theaters will bring your order to your seat! It's the catering and home experience. I think they all did their homework. It works for me! I can't go into a theater nowadays without asking myself whether or not the seats are comfy.

[@Kizrrith]

Next we’re gonna have a live action Skibidi toilet movie Edit: Micheal Bay my goddess

[@Themoonishereagain]

Isn't this movie currently being worked on by Michael Bay?

[@maddie_sarver]

Or Uwe Boll? (Sorry if i spelled his last name wrong)

[@KaptainKit]

im so sorry i js saw ur pfp and had to mention it

[@codered1132]

“Does he know?”

[@richardwattersonhaterclub]

dib membrane 😍😍😍😫😫😫🥵🥵🥵

[@DanielGuzman-mm8ti]

Let me remind you that Toy Story 2 is one of the very FIRST Theatrical Animated Movie Sequels at the time which Disney originally wanted to be a Direct-to-Video Film so if that movie never existed the highest grossing animated films would have probably been only have been ORIGINALS but also not make as much MONEY💰on this list as SEQUELS OR ADAPTATIONS this is just like how most of the Highest Grossing Live-Action movies are also from Existing Franchises.🤑

[@StudioKelpie1993]

There is a small cinema in a Mall in town that is really expensive and is designed like a classic Cinema from like the 50's, but the people there are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet, the staff are amazing and when I went to see Inside Out 2 with my brother for his 32nd Birthday (Yes, we're adults who still like animated films... bite me) and the families watching the film and some of the most well behaved kids you'll ever see. It's sad that you'll only get an amazing experience if you fork over more cash for more smaller venues, but this place I go to is amazing, I went to see Godzilla Minus One there and it was awesome, Japanese Dub with English Sub too! Also, their audio balancing is so good, I usually have to wear headphones when even going to the cinema due to how loud their speakers are, but not the Avenue (The cinema I was talking about), the screens have these padded walls that help direct the sound to the viewers and they are clear and clean, so amazing! Also the seats are comfy as heck, you get little footstolls as well you can put your stuff in and you get glasses for your Drinks, not a paper cup with a terrible paper straw

[@davyjones3105]

After seeing both Kung Fu Panda 4 and the Garfield Movie this year, Inside Out 2 being good was such a relief.

[@deryktenaro3336]

The really funny thing is Frozen isn't even original, it was adapted from Hans Christian Andersons "The Ice Queen" 😂

[@MatteoPicone-yy7pk]

But it has nothing of similar to the original story , are we sure it counts ?

[@redram6080]

​​@@MatteoPicone-yy7pk it has some similarities but you're right. The creative liberties are so massive they don't really feel all that similar at all

[@streled5361]

Wow, look at the variety! #12 Disney #11 Disney/Pixar #10 Illumination #9 Disney/Pixar #8 Disney/Pixar #7 Illumination #6 Disney/Pixar #5 Disney #4 Illumination #3 Disney #2 Disney #1 Disney/Pixar

[@WolfmanArt]

While not animated, let's not forget Deadpool and Wolverine!!!

[@ladypool1404]

I like the movie! It adds something new to the DP's franchise; it's funny and the cameos have a role in the story, the music is fantastic, the action is exciting and quick; there's a few calm scenes and my favorite is Wolvie and DP in the fast food; i wished it last longer and the conversation between Laura and Logan too. Remove the DP variants scene who is entertaining but not really important; add 5 more minutes to the calm scenes and the movie would be perfect for me! I still enjoyed it and saw it 2 times so far. I will definitly see Deadpool 3, 3 times 😃

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

​@@ladypool1404I hated it and I thought I was the only one but I know others who did too

[@Iheartdrumzz]

This list was kinda sad honestly. I hope we see more original IPs have the impact that Zootopia and Frozen have had

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙 🤙 🤙

[@a-s-greig]

​@@DeterminismisFreedomyour choice, I suppose

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

@@a-s-greig pardon ?

[@blistinaorgin16]

Chris Griffin: "YOU DIDN'T SEE THE ENDING!?"

[@Dark_Jaguar]

One thing we have to realize is something I think is very important. The average person has NO clue if a movie is going to be good when they're buying their ticket, and by the time they realize if they like it or not... it's too late. The theater has their money. These movies are succeeding based on first impressions from the advertising and the legacy of what came before, not because of the movies themselves. When a movie has neither a massive advertising budget or a legacy to build off of, THAT will tell you just how successful it was based on word of mouth from that initial audience. Heck "Frozen" isn't necessarily original. It's based on a fairy tale. (I have a personal bugbear about Disney's recent trend of naming all their fairy tale based movies just... a single word. "The Snow Queen" would have been a much better name! Anyway, not the point... moving on!) I say it's "based" on it but it's clearly heavily altered. Most of Disney's fairy tale movies are. They ditched the entire sub plot of imps making a cursed mirror that shows the ugliest part of people, which they break and a shard gets into the snow queen's heart turning her into "the snow queen" in the first place, you know, a backstory. Also, that outdoorsy guy who doesn't trust people? He's kind of supposed to represent another character who got a shard of the mirror in his eye instead making him see the worst parts of people. Anyway, they ditched it and she's effectively a mutant instead, which is fine, but wow did they drop the ball making a brand new villain for the story. Elsa being way more complicated, relatable, and redeemable? Sure, that's great! But at that point, she's still technically the main antagonist for a good chunk of the movie and HER story, changed as it is, is far more compelling without tossing in some throwaway evil prince to shove into a lake at the end of the thing. Eh, anyway, point is it's a good movie but my main problems with it all have to do with them not believing enough in the movie's strengths, ironically.

[@swordheartstudios]

It's sad to see how much sequels are being done more than new original ideas. As much as I love seeing some good sequels to some my favorite movies I would love to also see new ideas for animated films that would be awesome to see.

[@Ishtarru]

Yeah, how much money a movie made isn't a great indicator of its overall quality/originality.

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

It's not called a movie business for nothing, the workers won't eat art lol

[@adseigo]

I think my biggest issue with the Lion King outside of the emotionless animation and unfortunate soundtrack, was the fact that it didn't even try to do anything different with the source material. When Disney started down the remake path, they started by reimagining classic movies. Maleficent changed the entire story to revolve around the villain. Jungle Book tried to weave back in aspects from the books. If they had kept to that style of "remake" I wouldn't find them so abhorrent. Now it's just big budget fan service aimed at the adults who are too embarrassed to be seen watching "cartoons". It seems like every remake now shoots to be a beat by beat copy of the original film. They really are pointless. And while I'm more comfortable with Inside Out 2 doing better at the box office, it just feels like less care went into it. The whole message of the first movie was that negative emotions that seem worthless still serve a purpose in helping us stay healthy and grow. So what happens to Anxiety at the end of the second movie? They literally couch her so she doesn't have any impact on Riley. So they're basically treating her like Joy treated Sadness in the first movie.

[@AllyGatorAnimator]

I don't think the treatment of Anxiety and Sadness is quite the same imo, because the reasoning behind each emotion being put to one side is different. Sadness was kept away because Joy didn't want her to be involved at all, Anxiety is put to one side because she was getting carried away and needed to calm down before she could do her job again in a healthy way (which she does immediately after regarding the Spanish test reminder and the emotions praise her for it).

[@selenawolf2466]

Not to mention - the parents in the first movie both only had the original set of emotions - are they implying to be an adult Riley will need to properly expel Anxiety, Embarrassment, etc?

[@iamOrangeFM]

What's so great is that I tried watching this last year and I had the same reaction when Timon & Pumba showed up - turned it off so quick. Never went back.

[@LambLiesDownOnBroadway]

I wouldn't mind Zootopia giving us even a third movie. It could work as a trilogy. ☺

[@hassathunter2464]

Keep that in mind after the abortion arc

[@cinderstar9718]

Im in college currently with my major being basically Computer Animation in the simplest explanation. But seeing stuff like this just drives me to make something that can both be seen by people and understood but also fun and mesmerizing. Putting my heart into my projects, while money is a product of it. Art first, money second. It doesn’t mean that money isn’t important, its just not priority. Lackadaisy, the owl house, gravity falls, and My hero academia are a few of the media that I really like and want to kind of show that feeling into my art, you know? Im going to try to be smart and not be a part of a big company, since, you know, they might just fire me before i get hired…😅. And the fact that big companies are known for taking advantage of animators and firing them to save money, i just want to aim for somewhere between. Indie animation is my passion. I hope you enjoyed my tedtalk. Awesome informative video as always. Plus ultra.

[@bclynch30]

I absolutely love the theaters. Seeing Into the Spiderverse at 12 am with a friend, seeing Across the Spiderverse and No way Home (might see a pattern but shush) were amazing in person. Even the Mario movie was so much fun as you get this rush from the audience as well as the movie itself. The absolute worst experience in the theater was actually seeing inside out 2. I was with my cousin I’m 23 and she’s 21 (actually important) and I was SO excited I loved the first one and I just love the theater despite prices. Basically we were in our row and it was empty except there were people in front and back of us in the back so not alone but alone in our row. Some guy comes and sits DIRECTLY next to me like almost on top of me it felt like and we were in the center of our row for the viewing. Cousin and I are like wtf to each other, this row is huge and he chooses to sit there? Middle aged man or younger I’d say but older than us. Bros sitting there, we’re thinking oh maybe family or his wife are coming. Nope. Just him. In his cup holder, his phone was in it but the cameras were pointed at us, he’s playing with his Apple Watch not even watching the movie. I’m trying to enjoy it but my cousin was paranoid and pointed it out to me over text that the guys phone was at us. We moved seats all the way down to the other side of our row to the end, bros still sitting but we felt his eyes. Didn’t even get to see the new emotions right up when Riley is at hockey camp and my cousin bolts out the door suddenly. I’m like huh cause usually we all tell each other when going to the bathroom but didn’t say it to me. I assumed that but the guy then gets up and leaves from the other end. EXTREMELY SUS. I’m on edge and I’m conflicted if I should stay or I should go, if I stayed there might be trouble and if I went it might be double but my cousin was talking to the podium guy crying. Bro apparently chased after her from the bathroom but booked it and left. Long story short, got a refund, bastard got away but filed a police report. Like bro we were in a Disney movie? Cmon go be a creep somewhere else or not at all

[@Startsu2837]

Please talk about Kubo! It’s from the same company that made Laika, a severely underrated masterpiece from my childhood, that definitely needs to be discussed more :)

[@LucaDGropius]

Toy Story 4, from a technological type of view, is fantastic.... But from a storytelling type of view.... It is one of the most irresponsible, mean spirited, bad movies I've ever seen....

[@connordarvall8482]

Did the graphics arms race take over cinema too?

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

I loved it

[@MsAnonymousFangirl]

0:45 as a wise man once said "we'll stop beating this dead horse when it stops spitting out money"

[@castlesteinway7741]

Ah yes, Bo Burnham. The wisest of men

[@crownwreath59]

…“Illumination”… …“DreamWorks”… Y’all do realize both are owned by Universal, Disney’s biggest rival. So why not say Universal instead? 🤔

[@thedrewster0408]

It’s probably because Saberspark has some bad blood with Universal because of that said company was trying to block his Balto trilogy review from being released onto KZbin.

[@SocraTetris]

Hey Saber, long time fan. Gotta comment on this complaint of people being rowdy in theatres. On the one hand, yes, talking, joking, yelling, etc in a theatre can be quite disruptive. However, its only disruptive if the culture around your local theatre is one where quiet viewing is expected/the norm. Many theatres have had communities where the culture of watching a film involves vocal engagement, both enthusiastic and obnoxious. Its part of the fun. I have also lived in communities where rhe culture demanded absolute silence, even when watching comedies and horror films. I have even had a person hush me for talking to my friend about wanting to see a movie that was presented during the pre-roll trailers. I think film buffa often forget that there is more than one way to properly enjoy an experience, because they are invested in the curated, individual experience of watching a film. But a theater is a social space. If your local theatre's culture changes, then one's only recourse is to find a new theatre, embrace the new culture, or accept the home-viewing experience.

[@Steel-101]

Hey Mr. Saberspark, I’m just curious. Have you ever considered making a video surrounding the NEST entertainment company? They created the cartoons: The Swan Princess, multiple history cartoons(USA history and The backstory of Hanukkah for example). Including Bible stories from the Old Testament to the New Testament. In my opinion, this Company did an excellent job with art. I just wanted to throw this idea your way if you want to tackle it.

[@sweetparriz]

BRO THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING!!! I hope he covers it. (I’ve never personally heard of nest but it sounds intriguing)

[@Steel-101]

@@sweetparriz i’m actually surprised. If I recall correctly, they were really popular in the late 90s to early 2000s. I was born in 93 and my parents gave me a lot of videotapes from that company. What really fascinated me was the art & even the Voice acting from these cartoons(The best in my opinion, being Saul of Tarsus. The voice actor for Saul aka Paul, does a fantastic job with dialogue and singing). anyway, I always wondered what happened to them. They had so many cartoons, but then they just disappeared. I just think that saber spark, right here would do a good job, mentioning their history and giving credit to their art. NEST is One of the main reasons why I like to draw cartoons.

[@bluegold1026]

I loved you talking about Zootopia at the start. Some say that sequels (in general) are getting old but Zootopia is a movie that deserves sequels because of the possibilities of world expansion! We're getting introduced to reptiles in Z2. Who's to say there will be a Z3? That'd be the perfect opportunity to introduce avians (birds) into the world of Zootopia!

[@FletcherReedsRandomness]

Fun fact: adjusted for inflation, the highest-grossing animated movie of all time is still Snow White. I don’t think Inside Out 2 or the Lion King remake would even be in the top 5 if you accounted for inflation.

[@mattwolf7698]

I think re-releases are included with that though. Back before home video you had to go to re-releases to see movies to re-watch then or if you missed them originally or possibly catch them on TV but I don't think Disney put most of their movies on TV back then.

[@davidhileman8567]

Yeah. "Snow White", along with its numerous re-releases (first in 1944, then in 1952, 1958, 1967, 1975, 1983, 1987 and finally, in 1993), is most likely gonna still be the highest-grossing film EVER, when adjusted for inflation. I guess that's one way to appreciate it.

[@sage7441]

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[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

@@sage7441 That's nothing, you wanna see _full_ dedication?

[@benjamintan2733]

Movie ticket price used to be $1.99. Now iMax with fancy smancy 3D surround sound and 64k ultra screen is $29.99. I think if the ticket price were take into account, it'll be a different stories. Disney will show you they made money, but what they didn't show you is viewership is getting lower and lower.

[@trilloff]

The staff wouldn't do anything? Demand a refund and walk out.

[@eldupont3095]

theyre not paid enough to have confrontations with whole groups of people

[@trilloff]

@@eldupont3095 Managers are. This isn't a Karen moment, they are ruining the movie for everyone. If management won't do anything about the group, then they'll at least give a refund.

[@supercyc10]

A Disney movie beating another Disney movie…like watching the same guy beat their own high score at an arcade

[@luigioafn955]

Yeah I'm glad inside 2 absolutely dethroned this atrocity, let's hope and I mean HOPE as much as we can this is a wake up call for Disney to stop with the live action remakes. 🙏

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

For that to happen Mufasa needs to fail, and sadly I did see quite a few comments easing up on it despite nothing changing from the orignal remake aside from the colors being brightned up. I really want Sonic to beat it so much for so many reasons.

[@luigioafn955]

@@Cloud-dt6xb sonic 3 will definetly make a good amount at the box office but sadly I even think it won't hit that high, but hey, I'd like for that to happen, especially because look how paramount saved a movie by LISTENING to feedback! Ashame Disney can't do the same and just dishes out slop then a masterpiece then slop tbh-

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

@@luigioafn955 Well I'm not worried about the movie's box office individually I'm very confident it'll do amazing. I'm just concerned it's still going to lose to Mufasa. Despite it being obvious which movie is better, I'm not a disney hater, I'm happy Inside out 2 and Deadpool 3 did so well and I hope the same for Moana 2 but I have never liked the live action remakes and I need Disney to stop with them already.

[@luigioafn955]

@@Cloud-dt6xb right i don't hate Disney either, even if im tired of some of th e stuff they release. but it sucks that all they see is people will still settle for stuff like Mufasa, I'm sure that because alot of other studios have done good this year I feel like people will hopefully hold off on Mufasa, decent stuff has been releasing ( ofc and inside out 2 was amazing (

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

@@luigioafn955 Well we'll see I don't want to get too doom and gloom until we start seeing the results. And there are alot of people who understand more why others did'nt like the live action remake.

[@geomania8533]

0:26 eh to be fair Rogen does a lot of voices. Mostly cuz Hollywood is cheap - -

[@kitestar]

He is legally obligated to laugh every time he appears in a movie, you’ll know it’s him from his laugh

[@thedrewster0408]

@@kitestar so basically like Woody Woodpecker except Seth Rogans laugh is less psychotic.

[@kitestar]

@@thedrewster0408 pretty much

[@CelticShaman.]

No, Seth Rogen is in a lot of movies. He only does one voice.

[@1805movie]

I'm honestly glad _Inside Out 2_ dethroned _The Lion King_ remake. That movie had a lot more effort and heart put into it, than the "copy and paste"/shameful cash grab behemoth (which was marketed under the guise of "live action"). *On a side note:* I'd like to see a major studio (maybe Blum House, A24, Laika, or Neon) take the risk of producing an R-rated animated horror film. It can be hand-drawn, stop motion, or a hybrid mixture (i.e. _Spiderverse_ ). The budget can be around a modest 60-100 million dollars, and have someone like Guillermo Del Toro, James Wan, Genndy Tartakovsky or Vivian Medrano attached to the project. If it can be proven successful, it would be a game-changer for not only horror films, or R-rated films, but animation as a whole. It may seem impossible, but stranger things have happened that nobody thought would _EVER_ work ( _Star Wars_ , _Godfather_ , _Ghostbusters_ (1984), etc.). One can only dream.

[@julianspatter]

I've noticed pretty recently following the release of the new Astro Bot game and seeing some of the controversy around it that (IMO) one of the biggest problems plaguing the entertainment industry, more specifically audiences, is most of society's weird aversion to playing/watching anything that they deem childish. Because a lot of the most popular animated stuff is family friendly, the average person who watches movies and TV shows very casually sees animation as *exclusively* for kids, leading to them not wanting to watch animated stuff because they don't want to be seen as immature. This leads to both audiences and critics alike just not respecting animation as a medium, and inversely leads to live action remakes making more money than the originals despite a majority of fans *of* those originals saying that the live action remakes are either universally worse, or at the very least unnecessary.

[@TheRealArtDoctor]

It's sad that inside out 2 is what is considered the highest of quality in the mainstream. We can do so much better.

[@codered1132]

What I’m saying. I still liked the movie although I prefer the first one. But in reality this is just proving Disney right about everything needing to have a sequel. Cuz they know people will do anything to shut their kids up

[@EL-uj1pl]

Complex movies have always done better.. they're just less accessible than a movie that is more direct, blatant, and ok for children. that and CGI slop will always put people in seats unless the studio dates to put a person of color or LGBTQ+ person in a prominent role in it..

[@charlestonjew7587]

NetFlix's 'Arcane' agrees

[@theggamer2824]

But Inside Out 2 is that good that it does deserve it. It gave me Toy Story 2 vibes even though I don’t think it’s as amazing as that movie it did come damn close. Hell I decided to rewatch it just so to be fair and it still held up when I watched it again.

[@naoseiquenomepor6116]

But Inside Out 2 is AMAZING. One of Pixar's best

[@SirPhysics]

It's easy to blame the large corporations for being lazy and derivative and recycling franchises over and over again, but ultimately they only do that because it works. They wouldn't make live action remakes if people didn't watch them. And we can complain all we want about the video game industry going all in on "live services" rather than making satisfying, complete games, but so long as FIFA's microtransactions make more money than the entire rest of the industry they've got no incentive to do anything else.

[@realKarlFranz]

1:25 Pyrocynical: Did somebody say inflation?

[@mistermisfortune13]

My mans is never living it down 😂😂😂

[@TheHaseo322]

17:23 - Saber : The curse has been broken - Borderland & Minecraft movie : Hold our beers

[@BSENKevin]

The "Mario Bros" Curse has been broken.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

23:26 and Frozen isn't original as it's based on The Snow Queen

[@naoseiquenomepor6116]

You know that almost all (or all) of Disney's 2D films are based on books, right?

[@pierrelewis6819]

I love the Mario movie, in New york, there's a lot of video game references, and video game related references. In the mushroom Kingdom, a lot of references towards every Mario game, and an reference towards donkey Kong, and not just the background characters. It is a love letter to the audience and somewhat everything Nintendo. Every movie before the Mario movie, is just a excuse to shut up the children. Play Mario movie does the same thing, but it's a letter to the fans. I truly loved the musical cues, it also has a pretty good story, gorgeous animation, and towards the end, the cherry on top of the sundae, there's a reference towards Kamen Rider. Sure overall, it's reference the movie, but it's a really good movie. After all the credits, they give you one last reference, and that's the reference towards the mid-90s Godzilla, when it comes to the sequel baiting. Last but not least, there's a reason why the movie looks like, a PS5 game, I'm not to the live action Mario projects.

[@getmario64]

9:24 I love Zootopia and this began the 'furry' animated film that most furries will be loving since Sing or The Bad Guys. Yup, the furry fandom just grew a lot even though Robin Hood was the first Disney anthropomorphic film that they wanted cartoon animals to react like ordinary people even Looney Tunes had the same style so Zootopia had huge hit and won for the Oscar of Best Animated Feature in 2017. Of course Moana has the same feel and it was a huge hit than Frozen or any Disney property. Most people would prefer Moana over Zootopia so I do enjoy both of them, but Zootopia wins for this.

[@kinasakuraba]

3:03 omg I have also noticed people have forgotten movie edicutte in the theaters. A lot of them act like they're still in their living room at home and we can rewind the movie when we miss something they talked over. So frustrating when you're paying to be there.

[@saskiacrossingham]

You’ve inspired me to do my presentation at school about the downfall of children’ movies

[@angelagokool9514]

My niece loves Frozen! She has the Fisher Price toys, and the Princess Elsa and Princess Anna dolls, that were gifted to her by my mother. Apparently, she's also a Super Mario Bros. fan. I didn't know that until recently, when my family and I were on vacation in Cancun, and we were at the buffet, one day, and they had people dressed up as popular characters, performing and walking around the dining area, to promote that evening's entertainment. As soon as she saw Princess Peach, her mouth dropped wide open! It was so cute! Now, no one in my family has seen either of the Super Mario Bros. movies, but my sister and I used to play the video games, either on Nintendo, or on Super Nintendo (SNES). So, if my four-year-old niece is excited about these characters, even if they were before her time, then I'd say yes, these movies deserve their winnings. However, I will make exceptions. I didn't care for 2019's Lion King remake, either. In fact, I'd seen it with some friends, and only person in my group actually liked it. I had seen it with one of my girlfriends, and with some of my male friends. My female friend was disappointed that the rest of us didn't like it. I told her that we were just giving our opinions, and that it was fine if she liked it. So, it really depends on your perspective, to answer your question.

[@MrQuantumInc]

Human beings tend to have more positive feelings towards the familiar, and negative feelings towards the unknown. Novel stimuli grabs our attention, but that isn't always a good feeling. With lots of fictional franchises, out there, unfamiliar names get lost in the crowd, so familiarity both grabs your attention and promises greater comfort. Often people just want a pleasant evening in the movie theater. Often these numbers are specifically for the opening weekend. A certain amount of time passes and they stop counting. So a film that takes time to get people's attention will be counted as a failure.

[@mariawhite7337]

There was an experience I had where two chicks literally wouldn't stop talking. I threw popcorn at them and they finally shut up eventually. They were so confused at who was throwing it as I focused on the screen.

[@nintony2994]

"This is the most insulting moment in Disney" Snow White has entered the chat*

[@Groadr]

Y'know, I feel kinda glad to hear someone has the same opinion on Toy Story 4 as me, since usually all I hear about it is that people dislike that movie and when you ask the reason the only explanation is that it should've ended on Toy Story 3. Although I definitely agree it was entirely unnecessary, Toy Story 4 is still quite the fun movie!

[@maoschanz4665]

using a list without inflation adjustment is introducing a STRONG bias towards more recent films, so it's only natural you get a ton of sequels

[@Roboshi2007]

The thing about box office scores is that it's reactive; You see a movie because it looks interesting/well marketed, but if it's really good/bad/popular then the box office will only reflect in the sequels. the lion king remake banked on the popularity of the original, the next one will bank on the popularity of the remake, which I feel way less confident in.

[@chad9186]

But Zootopia is very original. Frozen is loosely based on The Ice Queen

[@avacornthelastponybender8583]

This whole thing reminds me of the Iliad when Hera, Athena, & Aphrodite had Paris decide who was the most beautiful between the three When he hesitated, they each offered him something as a bribe In the end, it was a contest to see which one was better at catching attention with grandiose claims rather than to see which one was actually better

[@Pablo-312]

Originality deserves a lot better in movies. We have been through sequels, reboota and remakes far too enough!

[@mttylerdurden9]

Apparently not, because people keep paying to see sequels, remakes and reboots and ignoring the original stuff coming out.

[@andrijatomorad9885]

Now that you talked about TLK 2019, I have to say... I am actually very curious about Mufasa... I mean, I expect the movie to be bad if not god-awful... but I'm curious about how it will do. I remember watching YMS's video on TLK 2019 (I watched the movie a few years after its release but before his review), which wasn't only the highest grossing animated movie of all time, but was also initially well-recieved by the audience. That helped me understand the movie's success even though it found a way to screw up almost everything (I agree with YMS on a big majority of his points and don't really care if he was nitpicky). It was probably successful (and liked) because it was just similar enough to make an emotional experience (or more precisely, remind people of the original's) but also different enough with its animation to feel like a completely new experience. However... Mufasa is going to be an original story that won't get its plot and emotional moments from an almost universally loved movie. On top of that, now we have seen this "live-action" TLK style, it's not new anymore... It means that Mufasa can't rely on either thing that made its predecessor such a... ahem... "phenomenon" (fk that movie). Also, unrelated, I can't believe they canonized Taka and not Askari (which means "soldier" and naturally makes Scar as its badass nickname) as Scar's name.

[@Jackal_El_Lobo34]

Really hope Disney runs out of properties to remake.