The Evils of Christianity

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I often see comments from people who have just found my channel that is some approximation of, "How can you defend the Catholic Church?" And the implied, or sometimes explicit, accusation that accompanies this question often betrays a misunderstanding of what "The Catholic Church" is. So, in this video, I offer some insights into how to make distinctions between the institution, its members, and the Church as it truly is by pointing out that we tend to make these distinctions in other areas of life and community (such as the education system).
Next, I spend some time discussing the many prejudices that I brought to my understanding of the Catholic Church which have slowly unraveled as I have devoted time to learning about the Church's history. Events like the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the supposed persecutions of scientists, aren't nearly what I was taught they were, if not outright fabrications relying on outdated historical narratives composed by Protestants or other rivals of the Catholic Church.
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[@StJoanGuideMe]

I'm literally the only one in my family. The rest are all ex Catholics or atheists. And my answer will always be no. How could I be embarrassed of Christ?

[@LauraBeeDannon]

Viva Christo Rey!!

[@OrthoLou]

Same here. The closest family member I have to is my mother who's really just a faux non-denominational Christian; claims to believe and pray, doesn't go to church, doesn't read scripture, picks and chooses which teachings to follow, etc.

[@truthisbeautiful7492]

Is the Lord Jesus Christ the same as the organization? Is the Lord Jesus Christ the sole Head of the Church?

[@albertfralinger2711]

It’s easy to be ashamed of Catholicism

[@LauraBeeDannon]

@@albertfralinger2711 no it's easy to be unashamed.

[@ChildofGod98765]

Thank you for your words of encouragement. I needed to hear this, I keep fasting and praying still no break threw. I feel like a failure. I lost my job for declining the vaccine. I declined due to my pre existing health conditions (Lupus) and (heart disease) I’ve been struggling to pay bills and keep food on the table since. I’m so ashamed of my situation. I’ve been mocked and laughed at because of my circumstances. It hasn’t been easy especially as a single mother with two autistic sons both are non verbal. My husband passed away years ago. I’m all alone. I’m sick of struggling and feeling like a burden. I’m sick of crying out asking for help. My cries go on deaf ears. I want to give up on life. But my faith in God is too strong. I still have faith God will change my living situation. Even though I’m facing homelessness this month with two young children. I will continue to keep FAITH. FAITH OVER FEAR!

[@leejennifercorlewayres9193]

I'm so sorry you are going through this. 🙏

[@tylerwhaley4872]

I'm sorry to hear about your situation, but you should really get vaccinated. Since you have heart disease, you're at higher risk to get serious complications from things like Covid, so vaccination is vital to immunize against these, according to the CDC. To lose your job over it was unfortunate. God bless and stay safe.

[@d46512]

I am sorry about your challenges. You've been given one gift that many of us lack: Strong faith. God bless you.

[@loganw1232]

Praying for you🙏

[@LunsKova]

Hang in there! I will remember you in my prayers. Stay strong and positive!!!!! (but Covid negative)!

[@lonniestoute8762]

Great teaching. Ever since I read the Catechism of the Catholic Church and found out that there is no teaching of the Church that reflects any objections I had toward the Church. Having been Protestant for years I knew my scripture yet found the Catholic teaching of scripture to be Truth. I then could separate the sin of the individuals from the "teachings" of the Church. This year alone I've had to teach this to a few people...Two of them understood and lost some of there anti Catholic views.. One is getting confirmed this Easter. Praise God. Good teaching Bro.

[@LauraBeeDannon]

Alleluia..well, we will sing it then😁 Easter Vigil.

[@truthisbeautiful7492]

Have you read the Catechism of Trent and the Baltimore Catechism?

[@lonniestoute8762]

@@truthisbeautiful7492 No I have not....and really don't care too.. My plate is full trying to follow the latest Catechism that was approved by the Church. I will not engage in some dumb argument about this council or that council . The last "council" is the one that is applicable today..

[@truthisbeautiful7492]

@@lonniestoute8762 well the latest ones cites the older ones as authorities. The catchecism of the council of Trent and the Baltimore Catechism actually give the details of the organization beliefs then the latest catechism. Yes, they change. If someone doesn't hold the same beliefs as the Catechism of the council of Trent and the Baltimore Catechism, then either the organization changed it's beliefs or the person did. I think the organization changed it's beliefs, but some beliefs that's are still currently held are explained in much more depth then in the current Catechism.

[@lonniestoute8762]

@@truthisbeautiful7492 What did you not understand!!! I don't care what you think. Nor am I interested in your opinion of changes. What's your point exactly?? Don't crawl around the bush like a snake. Say what you gotta say man!!!

[@Catholic4Rednecks]

I was Protestant for 50 years so I’m totally used to scandals and crimes.

[@chairde]

I worked in the public school system for nearly 30 years. There were several sex scandals. For years these sex offenders were forced to retire or transferred. Sound familiar.

[@aloyalcatholic5785]

I wonder if an apology will come from the native tribes who slaughtered catholic missionaries that we’re trying to help other natives, such as the Huron. I wonder where the apology is for the *actual* crimes against humanity committed by the Iroquois or Mohawks for example? What about the whole tribes in the US annihilated by other groups? None will be forthcoming, because we don’t live in a world where actual truth is valued. Only “current thing” grievance mongering. Most of the claims made about the residential schools are lies. Straight up. But they won’t get checked.

[@kimfleury]

We pray for our enemies, we don't demand apologies from them, but I get where you're coming from.

[@loveandmercy9664]

I definitely recommend watching the testimony from elder Angie Crear on her meeting the pope that the Edmonton Archdiocese just posted on youtube. Very powerful! The lord's prayer First Nations version: O great spirit, our father from above, we honour your name as sacred and Holy. Bring your good road to us, where the beauty of your ways in the spirit world above is reflected below. Provide for us day by day- the elk, the buffalo, and the salmon. The corn, the squash, and the wild rice. All the things we need for each for each day. Release us from the things we have done wrong, in the same way we release others for the things done wrong to us.

[@den8863]

@@loveandmercy9664 interesting and very nice. I have always understood “give us this day our daily bread” not as food at all but as the body of Christ. Spiritual food not earthly food.

[@danapb]

@@kimfleury This. In my mind, we cannot have a tit for tat. "We did this, YOU did that!" It separates God's people. Many men (and women) did horrible things while representing the Church and our faith. We will pay for their sins in reputation but we can continue our Lord's work and His word through our actions today. I do appreciate Brian's examination of our faith and what we are responsible for and how to answer these tough and accusatory questions.

[@Adam-ue2ig]

An apology from the native tribes? They are not Christians. The supposed Christians that have commited atrocities under the badge of Catholicism should be leading by a higher spiritual example.

[@Martika264]

Thank you for enlightening us, for educating us. Many of us Catholics do not read the history of these mentioned conflicts. It is imperative that we do so in order to defend our religion. Although lately it has become quite a heavy task. I am proud to be Catholic. I no longer think that the faith and the Catholic institution are two different things. They go hand in hand. I have learned not to generalize, and say that the mistakes of some are the mistakes of the entire institution. Thank you Mr. Holdsworth.

[@jorgerio6888]

I was away from the Catholic Church... but now I'm back and I'm really glad to be back to the Church founded by Jesus no matter what happened and happens to his Church. The gates of hell will not prevail. God bless you Brian.

[@jediv9910]

@Jorge Rio *Too bad. Bible and history both did not say R Church was the Church Christ founded or the Universal Church. You are misled.* 1. Catholics claim CHURCH refers to Roman Catholic Church. BIBLE says CHURCH refers to all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1, Mat 16:18. HISTORY tells us Roman Church was just one local Church a member of the Pentarchy. 2. Catholics claim Roman Church was the CHURCH CHRIST founded (First Church) or one true church. BIBLE says First Local Church was Jerusalem Church. Acts 2. Not Roman Catholic Church. 3. Catholics claim there is only One Church. BIBLE mentions both CHURCH and Churches. “CHURCH” refers to the Body of Christ Eph 5:30, Col 1:18 consisting of all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1 Mat 16:18. “Churches” refers to local churches Acts 9:31, Acts 15:41 and believers Romans 16:5, 1 Cor 16:19, 4. Catholics claim to be the first believers. BIBLE says first believers were Jewish Christians. Acts 2, Acts 11:26, NOT roman catholics. 5. Catholics claim Pope is the head of the CHURCH. BIBLE says JESUS is the HEAD OF THE CHURCH. Eph 1:22, Eph 5:23, Col 1:18. 6. Catholics claim outside Roman Church there is NO SALVATION. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11. 7. Catholics claim submit to Roman Pontiff to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11. 8. Catholics claim devote to Mary to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11. 9. Catholics claim partake Roman Church sacraments to be saved. BIBLE says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16. 10. Catholics claim Roman Church inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16 or John 20 or John 21. 11. Catholics claim Roman pontiff inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16. 12. Catholics claim bishop of ROME = the pope. BIBLE does not say that. 13. Catholics claim there is an office of bishop of bishops/universal bishop/pope. BIBLE does not speak of such an office. History tells us the first bishop of bishops came in AD590-600s. 14. Roman Church has all the false unbiblical clergies - Roman priests, roman cardinals, roman pontiff, monks, nuns, friars, … BIBLE mentions only pastors, teachers, evangelists, prophets, apostles, deacons, bishop, elders. Titus 1:5, Eph 4:11, 1 Tim 3. 15. Roman Church claim its doctrines come from traditions of Apostles. BUT 95% of roman doctrines are NOT from traditions of Jesus or Apostles or Scriptures; neither practised by NT Church of the BIBLE. you said I was away from the Catholic Church... but now I'm back and I'm really glad to be back to the Church founded by Jesus no matter what happened and happens to his Church. The gates of hell will not prevail. God bless you Brian.

[@lois2997]

@@jediv9910 stop whining you jealous protturd. You are just jealous

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

2 points 1. I often wonder if people understand that fir 1500 years if you lived north of the Danube and were a Christian,you were a Roman Catholic. 2. We are taking about an organization that is 2000 years old. At any time in those 2000 years you can find The Best and The Worst in Christianity. Very often right next to each other.

[@adenjones1802]

No where can you find the best. Not one part. The only reason you think that is because you wrongly count the ministry of Jesus as catholic which it wasn't.

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

@@adenjones1802 I'm assuming you have a Point.

[@adenjones1802]

@@stevenwiederholt7000 My point was name one thing that Catholicism has uniquely done that has been good for Christianity. Because anything good it has ever done has been done by other denominations and it has done many things worse than other churches despite this mans best efforts to sweep a lot of it under the rug.

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

@@adenjones1802 "My point was name one thing that Catholicism has uniquely done that has been good for Christianity." For somewhere around 1500 years if you lived north of the Danube and were a Christian You were a member of the Roman Catholic Church. If you lived south you were a Eastern Orthodox Christian. Or How about the writing of The Church Fathers? The Christianization of Europe? I could go on ad on and on and on if you want. Read some Church History.

[@adenjones1802]

@@stevenwiederholt7000 Again spreading Christianity is something that many churches have done. I would even go so far as to argue that the version of Christianity that Catholicism teaches is not proper Christianity and the people who believed it are potentially doomed to judgement. "On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers'" (Matthew 7:21-23) See these people defer to their works to save them. Catholicism teaches you need works like baptism, sacrament etc in order to be saved. So since Catholicism taught these lies, these souls may be damned. Thats hardly a positive.

[@robertnewberry5886]

Brian, I am a non denominational minister / missionary. All churches, denominations and people have their scandals and blemishes. Usually caused by human leadership. I have worked with Catholics and many other denominations. I love the Catholic Church and my wonderful Catholic Friends. When the Christian body makes questionable decisions. All of them! We all get blamed to some extent. I don't need to defend. I simply need to love. I simply need to trust God to defend and protect His Bride. Thank you for your videos. I watch not because your Catholic but because I see love for God and all of us too in your teaching. I hear God's love for us all.

[@culturecoroner]

❤️

[@Brian033156]

@@culturecoroner ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ God bless you. You are close to His kingdom.

[@Brian033156]

Sorry culturecoroner. My comment was meant for Robert. 😬

[@LauraBeeDannon]

We can help with that nondenominational denomination thing..cross the Tiber, the water's nice...😁🙏

[@chriscampbell7895]

Well put for Catholics often confuse the church with human elements

[@davidhermes3812]

Comparing the Catholic Church to education systems is my go to when I am asked how I can be a Catholic. People very quickly realize that their understanding of the church was misguided.

[@row1landr]

I like this... but can you please explain a bit more about your "go to" ? How do you use education system in the discussion with a non Catholic? Please explain so that I can use it too.

[@madmechanic7976]

Once I understood that there are 2 churches , the one of God and the one of Satan. I realized what team I was on and surrounded my self with like minded Catholics.

[@LauraBeeDannon]

Amen

[@adenjones1802]

So you went with the church that teaches that you can pay for spiritual gifts like indulgences. Good luck.

[@andreeattieh2963]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush I'm Catholic period

[@triciaperry2234]

@@adenjones1802 😂😂😂 exactly. Fools

[@ungas024]

​@@adenjones1802 Who told you that? Luther? Sin of Simony is illegal since the 10th century and warrant of ex-communication.

[@thedon978]

Brian: Every Catholic should hear this. A great analysis and presentation. Thank you.

[@cb738]

I was in my past but not anymore.. by the grace of God ✝️ he helped me see...He gave me new eyes to know more about the one True Church the Catholic Church which He founded through the first Pope Peter and the Apostles. I almost left Jesus because of Judases in the Church. I'm glad I didn't. The Church is never perfect but it is the one True Church.

[@Kitiwake]

The church is perfect.

[@jalapeno6847]

Only a person brought up in Catholic beliefs would believe that Christ founded His church on Peter, whether Catholics want to call Peter the first Pope (father) is unimportant to me. As far as being far from perfect that's the least we can say about The Catholic Church with all it's killings and tortures through out it's history not to mention how children suffered at the hands of priests misusing them and the Church leaders looking the other way. My parents like many Mexican Americans were Catholics and so my siblings and myself were brought up in the Church, I still believe in God and Christ but most of the Catholic Church's beliefs, teachings and traditions I no longer believe in. I would have to say that the first Church (Ekklisia/ Ecclesia) an assembly of people not buildings was in the Upper Room which we read about in Acts as Christ said "Where two or three are gathered in My Name, there I am in the mist." So we really don't need massive buildings and untold accumulation of wealth to be the true Church of Christ. Christ Himself is the Cornerstone of the Church and is the Rock that His Church (Believers, Followers) is built on. Jesus said He was the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father but through Me, why would we need mere mortals with their beliefs and wealth when Christ has shed His blood on the cross for our sins. I wish you the best, stay safe.

[@cb738]

@@jalapeno6847 You cannot flaunt 3 or 4 verses and think that's all you need. Buddy there are 31 thousand verses that comprises the Bible. Verse isolation and cherry picking is not gonna do you any good. You know who you mirrored?....you mirrored the devil flaunting isolated verses to Jesus Christ in the desert. Buddy I don't get impressed by people who pushed cherry picked verses based on a handicapped man made Protestant bible.... 66 book bible just 6 away from triple 6. I been there ....I heard all those verses Protestant are infatuated with.....done all that. You go do you....you won't get through me.

[@TheTruthisWritteninyourHeart]

@@jalapeno6847 we miss you we are all broken by these things like you our hearts belong to Christ we want to share and live in that joy with each other. Please don’t let powers and principalities have the final say, Christ lives, Christ reigns my faith is in Christ my brothers and sisters are sinners trying to become saints 🙏❤️🙏

[@kathleenirish]

I am very sad & depressed over how many have left Everyone in my family save one.

[@martaacosta4415]

The Catholic Church teaches TRUE religion. That’s the only reason we need to beCatholics. The Inquisition, the Crusades, etc., were events typical of the thinking of the times and other religions did the same thing. Anyone alive today , had they lived in the 16th century or the 10th century, would have thought and done exactly as people did then, so let’s not be so high and mighty believing we are so superior. No one studies history anymore and we are, in fact, more ignorant, than people were in past centuries. Witness the philosophy of Manifest Destiny in the 19th century if you want to see recent stupidity; witness gender theory if you want to see current stupidity. In other words, I quite agree with you, Holdsworth, and I personally believe we should imitate Spain’s Franco on having a state religion: Catholicism. Thank you.

[@tonyoliver2750]

England has a state religion and look how that's panned out.

[@catholicdoctrine]

@Marta Acosta: Here is a video on the Inquisition that you may find interesting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYqQoYZsnrF5q8U

[@nancya8262]

Brilliant analysis and commentary. Thank you for your balanced and comprehensive overview. I agree with everything you said and pray you will continue to speak the truth with fortitude and courage. May God bless you and your family. The creed is true and you defended it brilliantly. Stay strong.

[@oliverclark5604]

What about prudence (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1806), "boss horse" of the other three Cardinal Virtues, Courage (or Fortitude), Temperance and Justice? The issue is grooming by diseased family members: “familyists”, of family members. This grooming has harmed directly more than I billion people. Indirectly it has harmed the great majority of the rest of the worldwide community, particularly with catastrophic sexual abuse. This grooming is with a hidden, incest connected, non-economic purported presumed status inducement for the vocation of the single consecrated person as higher than that of male-female married couple persons. This inducement of a higher vocation is evident in a Christian New Testament scripture, 1Cor7:25-34, given as purported presumed an “opinion” not given by God. It is repeatedly purported presumed over 2000 years including in St Ignatius of Loyola’s “Rules for Thinking with the Church” in his “Spiritual Exercises”, Louis J. Puhl sj, Loyola University Press. 1951, n.356. It is repeatedly purported presumed from 1954 from Pope Pius X11’s “On Holy Virginity”, SV, 1954, 24 through the Roman Catholic role group’s Vatican Council 11 “Decree on the Training of Priests”, OT, 1965, 10, Pope St John Paul 11’s Exhortation on the Family, FC, 1981, 16, his Council for the Family’s document: “The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality: Guidelines for Education Within the Family”, TTMHS, 1995, 35, and implied in his Exhortation: “On Holy Virginity”, VC, 1996, 62. It is supported by purporting presuming the reference in Pope Benedict XV1’s “Introduction to the Youth Catechism of the Catholic Church”, released 21 February 2011 by Vatican Radio to “… you all know how the community of believers has recently been wounded by the attacks of evil, by the penetration of sin inside, even into the heart of the Church”. This inducement is corrected immediately by Pope Francis starting on 19 March 2013 in his homily in the Mass for the Feast of St Joseph not ascribing entrustment of the child Jesus to the care of St Joseph. Particularly Pope Francis corrected this purporting presuming enabling insurance fraud and tax embezzlement on or just after 10 June 2021.

[@connorestelle5059]

Being Catholic is the one thing that this sinner is proud of. Thank you, Brian, and God Bless you.

[@dougmoore5252]

I go Mass, but not the Latin Mass, our parish has a younger Priest who is very orthodox. I understand where you are coming from however. I came from a protestant background originally. Thank for what you do.

[@lindaismail4811]

No i was hurt as all hell. I am the catholic I was baptised to be and not the protestant they tried to make me.

[@GunRunner3]

I am 79 years old. I have been a Catholic all my life, my parents sacrificed to send me and my six brothers and sisters through 12 years of Catholic School. My Father was a steelworker and my Mother never held an outside job after my sister was born. With the problems I've seen in the Church, particularly since the death of Pope John Paul II, I have become very disillusioned and concerned with the future of Catholicism. Only the knowledge that Jesus Christ founded this Church over 2000 years ago, and has sustained it this long, has helped me keep my faith. I believe Pope Francis was sent by God as a trial to be overcome by the faithful, similar to other false popes who appeared in the past history of the Church. However, listening to intelligent, logical and devout men like you is definitely reassuring in this very sad day and age, and I am very appreciative. Please keep up your good work, God's work, it's needed now more than ever. God bless you and yours and thank you.

[@joshuacooley1417]

It should also be noted that the Spanish Inquisition was actually a political entity. It was an office of the Spanish Crown, not of the Catholic Church. The Spanish inquisition was largely staffed by clerics, but it was an office of the Spanish Crown, under the jurisdiction of the Crown. It was not a Church office and was not under the authority of the Church. The Catholic Church did have an office of the inquisition, and the inquisition was active in Europe at various times. You can find more information on this by searching the "medieval inquisition" as opposed to the "Spanish Inquisition". The inquisition of the Catholic Church operated under the principle that it was better to let the guilty go free than to convict the innocent. They had rules in place to try and protect the innocent. The Catholic inquisition was actually way better than any other court of the time, including the secular courts.

[@MNkno]

Thank you for that. Details and nuances are important. I see a parallel with the gleeful acceptance of Henry VIII splitting with Rome over his "lust" and need for an heir, where although the need for an heir was one thing (that could have been solved by other means) 1. the meddling in English politics by Rome, 2. the wealthy holdings of the church in England, 3. the 10% drain on the economy due to the tithe that was sent to Rome (Vatican), and 4. that although perhaps Italians could follow the services and teachings in Latin, it was not understood by the Germanic-based language-speaking ordinary people in Germany and England. 5. Rome was inflexible and turned a blind eye to any of the problems pointed out by Martin Luther, who had a growing number of followers in England... and it is a wise leader who spots the direction the population is heading in, and gets out in front and leads it (instead of 6. cracking down with disciplinary measures). Nothing is ever as simple as the propaganda by latecomers makes it seem.

[@djf5069]

It should also be noted that according to actual historians the total number of people convicted and subsequently put to death under the Inquisition was unlikely to be anymore than 3 Thousand. Not Millions as Protestants claim.

[@gab31282]

Please do make that excuse. The Catholic Church was behind the inquisition using the state at its attack dog. If the Catholic Church wanted to tame or eliminate the inquisition, it had the power to say so, and the state would have followed suit.

[@lois2997]

@@gab31282 bs. I listen to people who know the truth not ignorant trolls

[@theresemeggetto1220]

It’s Jesus’ Church… where else can we go to be truly with Him.. The Eucharist is truly Jesus…The earth is not heaven, we are human, struggling daily to be as God made us to be. I don’t think the Catholic Church is the ONLY group of people who sin. Thank you so much Brian, you are a wonderful defender of the faith.. I have learnt so much from you. 😃🙏🏻

[@xiomarablanco5598]

As a cradle 72 y/o Catholic, I can’t deny the disappointment I’m experiencing with many leaders within our Church including the Pope in the current time, but never have I doubted I’m in the right Church regardless of the bad Catholic members through history. This is the Church that Jesus founded and we must be faithful to Him and his teachings, because only the ones who persevere to the end will have life for eternity. We need to trust God’s word and his promises against all odds. 🙏🙏🙏

[@xiomarablanco5598]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush yes sir!

[@jacktrainer6705]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush Yeah...no. Ever Heard of Peter? (Matt. 16:18)

[@xiomarablanco5598]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush yes the great Constantine I! The Church will never forget what he did for her after three centuries of suffering persecution. Unfortunately now our Church is being persecuted again but this time from within, however, we know Christus Vincit!🙏

[@xiomarablanco5598]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush Have you heard of the Great Commission (Mathew 28,19-20). Jesus established his Church through his Apostles (and their successors of course), to whom he gave authority and a promise that He will be with them until the end of time. The Church is just the instrument Jesus instituted to teach us, to guide us and to sustain us in our journey to heaven. We need to stay in this ark if we want to survive, out of her we shall perish. 🙏

[@xiomarablanco5598]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush I respect your right to your opinion, even though I don’t agree with it.🙏

[@joshuaslusher3721]

Awesome video! Just to let you know, revolution is missing an o when you put it on screen. Love your channel brother!

[@loveandmercy9664]

“[T]here are two races of men in this world, but only these two -- the "race" of the decent man and the "race" of the indecent man. Both are found everywhere; they penetrate into all groups of society. No group consists entirely of decent or indecent people.” Holocaust survivor Viktor Frankl

[@anthonypuccetti8779]

Stupid quote by a depraved man who lied about his wartime experiences.

[@themostprecious7064]

The Most Holy Eucharist! All a Catholic ever needs to say! Nothing else even comes close.

[@susannarducci3350]

Im not embarrassed to be Catholic, God will judge us individually.

[@adenjones1802]

Good luck if you think you are getting into heaven on your own merit.

[@andreeattieh2963]

@@adenjones1802 we Catholics don't teach we can earn salvation I'm Catholic because God lead me to the Catholic church

[@adenjones1802]

@@andreeattieh2963 You can literally justify any works based salvation that way. Also you are not taking responsibility for your own faith. Good luck with your defence when God judges you for your faith in works since you don't believe in a God that is kind enough to save you without baptism and sacrament and all those other hoops the pope has you jumping through like a trained circus animal.

[@Kitiwake]

@@adenjones1802 luck is a gypsy idea with no God behind it. So, what is behind it, apropos, you?

[@oliverclark5604]

I believe in uncertainty that "Catholic" is a role, something one does, not to "be" an identity, who one is, and that role and identity are qualitatively equal and inseparable.

[@ModernPapist]

I enjoyed this a lot as a statistician. Confounding variables matter. It further supports the idea of having it taught in school along with basic logic.

[@RodrigoMera]

Everytime a member of the Catholic Church hierarchy does something wrong, the whole Church is blamed, but when a minister of one of the myriad Protestant, non denominational churches does something wrong, it gets diluted as if that was just an average job of an average person. It reminds me of Mark 26:68 "Prophesy to us, Christ! who hit you?"

[@browncony3897]

*Of course the whole of RC is blamed. Why? RC claimed to be head of all churches and controls all interpretation of doctrines and all clergies.*

[@lois2997]

It gets ignored they ignore the prot molestors when there are more in those churches than priests

[@kimfleury]

Thank you for this. You expressed what I've often struggled to communicate much of my life, even after I had left the Church. It's complicated. In education, it's called "internalization" when a student owns knowledge so deeply that it forms part of the individual's understanding of the world. These are usually the things we learn prior to having the vocabulary to eloquently express them. As a result, we tend to reach back into the "childish recesses of memory," if you will, to pull up the words to describe the understanding. That means the explanations will often seem to be childish. The only solution is to continue to learn it all over again, this time with more mature vocabulary. However, I was also taught the Hollywood version of the Crusades and the Inquisition, and of the French Revolution, etc. and so on. It was such a relief when I learned the real history, and I'm often correcting the record. I appreciate your additions to this endeavor. Now to keep focusing on correcting my daughter who's a landed immigrant, if not yet full citizen of Canada, on the facts of the residential boarding schools. Please pray for her! As always, 3 Aves for you 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻 that this mission may bear fruit pleasing to the Lord.

[@loveandmercy9664]

I definitely recommend watching the testimony from elder Angie Crear on her meeting the pope that the Edmonton Archdiocese just posted on youtube. Very powerful! The lord's prayer First Nations version: O great spirit, our father from above, we honour your name as sacred and Holy. Bring your good road to us, where the beauty of your ways in the spirit world above is reflected below. provide for us day by day- the elk, the buffalo, and the salmon. The corn, the squash, and the wild rice. All the things we need for each for each day. Release us from the things we have done wrong, in the same way we release others for the things done wrong to us.

[@TSliw]

Just a thing I noticed: in other videos when praising the Church you consider her one institution; paraphrasing Chesterton as nearly unique as an institution that has “thought about thinking” or something similarly trite from the author Here you say we have to distinguish “individuals or small institutions (OMI maybe) from “the creed”. Which is it?

[@filiusvivam4315]

It's Catholic "both and". Not Protestant "either or"

[@boojasmine]

The Church is one in her beliefs and teachings. The People r individual: they can stay in the church but behave in ways that go against the teachings. That is very sinful. The teachings dont condone bad things. Everyone ( including you!) has the choice to follow the teachings and be a saint or to behave very badly.

[@BrewMeister27]

If people do good because of the creed, then we rejoice in the creed that all Catholics share. If someone abandons the creed, even while still claiming affiliation to it, then the individual is to blame.

[@withbladeandflame1620]

It’s Papist double standards at it’s finest. Also he is inaccurate in saying that Henry VIII is the true father of the Anglican Church. Thomas Cranmer was the true father of Anglicanism since he developed its theology through the Holy Spirit and he was martyred by the Roman Catholic Bloody Mary.

[@TSliw]

@DonnyBlips I'm skeptical of using "good stuff the Church does" or "look at the saints" as an apologetic thrust because it's dishonest. We can find examples of people who "do good" or display this or that virtue in many places or in many religions. I also think about people who really want to grow in virtue, who try, who frequent the sacraments but the grace seems to have no effect. Whats happening there? Blaise Pascal makes a distinction though that all good works, all virtue, everything is for nought is we do not have the Love of God. (TBF he was one of the few "true believer" Jansenists who thought the 5 Propositions were good). For me the things about the abuse scandals and IRS isn't that our Church teaches it is wrong and these people violate that. The Pope is not apologizing for one sinner who was dealt with accordingly but with a pattern and institutional action of evil. If one priest abuses a child, that is a grave evil. If a priest rapes a child, the bishop uses his spiritual authority to guilt the victim for "bringing scandal", and this is a repeated patters--that's different. I completely disagree with Brian that, as the leader of "the institution" and claiming the title of Vicar of Christ, the Pope certainly has the role and office to apologize for evils committed by Church institutions. As a parent, while you would exhort or "make" your child apologize to a teacher for being disrespectful I think it is natural for a parent to apologize as well as apart of making restitution.

[@swoosh1mil]

Solid point...Is the individual or group to be blamed or the institution as a whole to be blamed? People will take the lazy way out and blame the institution. When it's the individual or group who are in error. Thank you for pointing this out.

[@kateguilfoyle5155]

Also, you don’t judge a religion by the conduct of those who flout the rules of that religion. There will always be some who disobey the doctrines of the Catholic Church, but even Jesus had Judas.

[@reginapontes5672]

excellent point

[@brennanmartinez3723]

As a catholic, often hear people tell me that they think celibacy is the reason for sex abuse scandals which I don't hold to be true, since it is a failure if one's self not the church in whole. What would your response be because I don't feel I have an adequate answer to that.

[@physiocrat7143]

Celibacy means that the priesthood can attract the wrong sort of people.

[@oliverclark5604]

I believe in uncertainty that the "reason" is familyist family persons for tax and insurance advantages of their families grooming psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family persons with the non-economic hidden, incest connected status inducement that purported presumed consecrated celibacy (PPCC) is a "higher vocation" than male-female marriage. Thus lower insurance costs as this PPCCs are presumed by insurance companies (set up by familyists called "Catholic Insurance") safer with children and vulnerable adults. Thus no tax as purporting to be charities and tax exempt.

[@physiocrat7143]

@@elizabethkraszewski6603 The abuse problem is characterised as paedophilia but it is really homosexuality.A celibate institution is a place where homosexual men can hide. There is a reluctance to discuss this.

[@kelechukwuanozyk7605]

@@physiocrat7143 celibacy means that priests can be spiritual fathers. Sex abuse is not caused by celibacy and not cured by marriage. You must be very naive

[@physiocrat7143]

@@kelechukwuanozyk7605 Where did I say that sex abuse was caused by celibacy or cured by marriage? Are you saying that married priests cannot be spiritual fathers? Why not?

[@jessewilliams15]

Amen. A convert and a student of history here as well.

[@borrowedtruths6955]

I feel it only right to offer each of you here an opportunity to answer this question. You have two choices, A or B, which is the correct answer as for how a man is saved? A. Grace alone, faith alone, Christ alone. or B. A person must receive Christ as Savior by faith, be baptized in the Trinitarian formula, be infused with additional grace by observing the Catholic sacraments, especially the Eucharist, and then die without any unconfessed mortal sins. If one accomplishes the above, he or she will be saved and granted entrance into heaven, likely after an extensive time of further cleansing in purgatory. Make your choice quickly, time is running out!

[@readmore4178]

I can defend it, because it’s true. Demonstrably. I’ve found nothing that is, remotely more true.

[@filiusvivam4315]

well said.

[@misterprop9089]

Not a single word in the bible can be seen as true, but if believing in god make you sleep safer during the night, it's all good i guess.

[@readmore4178]

@@misterprop9089 I believe in God, because all of the evidence points towards it. I don’t have the faith required to be an atheist. Your religion is absurd.

[@tonyoliver2750]

@@misterprop9089 Not a single word?

[@andrefouche9682]

@@misterprop9089 We've got a real intellectual genius here.

[@alanjames19711]

One important truth is the acknowledgement that the church's members are sinners: ' All have sinned and fall short of God's law' as St Paul wrote. Unfortunately in the current climate there is the notion of guilt by association when it comes to certain institutions like the church. However the same accusers will also claim the opposite position if it is close to their own belief system or political alignment. They'll state that one bad actor is not a reflection on their organization.

[@oliverclark5604]

I believe that defective identities in the great majority of marriages as invalid have groomed those in church roles to think or alternatively to have faith they are "members"; that is, have identity as "church" when it is a role, what one does, suffer the disease of ethically utilitarian "consequentialism" (Elizabeth Anscombe) "duopsony" (Joan Robinson; two buyers controlling price) for tax and insurance advantages of the families of these defective identities who suffer uncontrollable "oscillation between persistent forms of regressive 'familyism' on the one hand and an affirmation of radical individualism on the other that, in destroying the family reverses the progress of humanisation, heedless of the long term consequences of so doing." (Pope Francis' President of his Council for the Family, Cardinal Vincenzo Paglia, in his address as Pope Francis' representative at the UNO HQ on 15 May 2014, the UNO designated "International Day of the Family")

[@alanjames19711]

@@oliverclark5604 What do you mean by using this quote from Pope Francis? I can't see the relevance in relation to my observation.

[@oliverclark5604]

@@alanjames19711 Alan, my quote of Paglia, not Pope Francis, is relevant as I see it to your observation "... will also claim the same position if it is close to their own belief system or political alignment." I believe in uncertainty that a 'position" relates to doing role. I believe that "belief" is in uncertainty keeping or allowing inseparability of thinking role and having faith identity. I believe that a "position" role cannot be "close to" a "belief system" since it is a component of a belief system with a family member identity of having faith. Paglia I see pointing out the danger of oscillation between role and identity that I see could be understood either as warning or falling into in your observation as not clear to me which..

[@browncony3897]

​ @Mark Pugner *Same question. Who says "R Church (Church of R in history) = the Universal Church or the Church CHrist founded or the one true church"? Since when this local church called Church of R became "the Universal Church or CHurch Christ founded or the one true church"? You cannot answer?* you said (I don't say "R Church = Church". I say that the Catholic Church - not the same thing as Latin Church, also called Roman Church, which is just part of it - is the One, True Church which Jesus founded. But to speak of "the church" or "the Church" can have many different meanings depending on context… but all of that is beside the point.)

[@Burt1038]

Regarding people with difficult personalities finding employment in the church: I have also observed this phenomenon in a variety of professions and bureacracies, including teaching, police, and journalism as well as home owner associations, charities, and the like. The common thread is that jobs that wield power but don't pay very well (if at all) will always attract zealots and/or petty tyrants, as the rest of us would rather earn more money elsewhere. In a way, we kind of deserve it: it's the price we pay for our own collective indifference.

[@Catholic4Rednecks]

No I’m not ashamed of being Catholic

[@corazonkatigbak8563]

Thank you, Brian. As a born Catholic, i am proud of my faith until death. Glad that i made up my mind since i was a child not to look at how others have, and believe in, so I won't be guilty of the 10th Commandment. This not modeling myself to others except God earned me peaceful nights now that I am a senior citizen. I am a member of a Marian Cenacle prayer group, which had helped me meet the challenges including sorrow in this pandemic, where my family lost 3 siblings, 2 due to Covid, in ten months. Turn to prayers to keep quiet in this world's din, and focus on God alone.

[@oliverclark5604]

I believe in uncertainty that as conceived and born in an identity; who one is, as a family member, I then was designated or chose a role; what one does, such as "Catholic" or protestant and/or citizen. If as reported at Luke 1:45, Mary "believed", I believe this believing is the keeping in uncertainty of the inseparability of one's thinking do-ing (role) and having faith be-ing (identity). I believe Elizabeth's commendation of her cousin, Mary, in, as reported in scripture, referring to "that there would be a fulfilment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.", in referring to "fulfilment" means the keeping or allowing in uncertainty of belief of covenant, non-presumed reciprocity; that is inseparability and qualitative equality, of role and identity as true humanisation. Oliver Clark, age 75, anglo-catholic accredited catechist of roman catholic religion in the roman catholic archdiocese of Brisbane, Australia.

[@lisamoag6548]

Thank you 🙏

[@Kitiwake]

@@oliverclark5604 what's it like being so near to the church but so distant from God as a protestant? Do you think that remaining a protestant having informed yourself of the validity of the chair of Peter is any path to salvation? There, you have a response.

[@mortensimonsen1645]

I did a little bit of Wikipedia-research on the "Residential School Scandal". I actually thought they had found mass graves, the implication I assumed was that they had died because of abuse. Not so. At all. Children died because of tuberculosis in the years before effective treatment became available. The burial of some seemed to have a "quick fix", but it's hard to know what went on before 1950. Maybe everything was totally reasonable in that day and age. Canada had outsourced the schooling to Christians and paid as little as they could, and at the time both Church and state thought it was a good idea to assimilate the indigenous population. I struggle to see what the problem really was. I don't doubt that there was abuse of sorts in such schools. It was the same story here in Norway with our indigenous population. Later on we are all much wiser and criticize our past without mercy. At the time one thought assimilation was good. At the time one didn't think so much about how children fared - they were just meant to grow up. Canada seems pretty toxic when it comes to the Church. To talk about "Residential School Survivor" is such loaded language. To not compare that type of school with other schools is so sloppy. To complain about children dying from sickness and making a scandal out of it is outrageous. I am sorry I ever believed there was something to this so-called "scandal".

[@Tttb95]

Youre half right half wrong. Residential schools were massive abuses. Children were taken from their parents and the govt (through churches) tried to eliminate Native American culture and language. Living conditions were not great, neither was the food or medical care. Some of the deaths were more negligent than murder. The people running these programs knew what they were doing and were absolutely racist and horrible to Natives. The Church should have refused to help the government here. The mass graves were actually from the govt refusing to give the religious staff who ran the schools money to send the bodies back to their families. And another loaded phrase is "unmarked" graves. This is also a lie. Graves were marked with wooden markers. But wood that is left outside to harsh Canadian elements tends to decay and disintegrate over decades. Some more lies are that the Church never apologized or compensated victims. Many diocese have issued formal apologies AND have settled damages. Church officials have issued so many apologies over the years, and they still cave in to the mob's demand they apologize more. They need to stop. Or at the very least reference the apologies made DECADES ago.

[@mortensimonsen1645]

@@Tttb95 Thanks for sharing your knowledge - the whole thing is more and more out of proportion. I don't disagree that it is abusive to take children from their parents and put them away in residential schools far away. But we need to put this into the perspective of those in charge of this policy back in the day. If I am not mistaken, boarding schools and being sent away for months was considered almost a good thing - or at the very least necessary. If you've read about CS Lewis's upbringing it didn't seem easy. But, of course, this took on another level of discomfort since it suppressed the native culture. However, even that will at some point in time have been considered for "the good" of the natives. They were "backward" and needed to get modernized. The Church would of course see the benefit of making good Christians out of the children, it's hard (as a Christian myself) to argue against it since Christians deal with the eternal stuff. All in all, I think we must have more sympathy for our history since we're a product of it. It doesn't do any good to us to think of our ancestors as evil and abusive if they actually did many things in good faith. To apologize on their behalf might (I stress 'might') be wrong. Of course, I suppose there will be many incidents and particular people in the system that shouldn't have been there - even we the utmost sympathy for our ancestors there will be abuses no matter how one views it. That's human nature.

[@Tttb95]

​@@mortensimonsen1645 You cant compare CS Lewis to the Native kids. In the beginning the government explicitly tried to eradicate Native culture. This was very well known. Also Lewis' father sent him to boarding school. Many of these children were ripped from their families by the RCMP. The origin of residential schools is/was inherently evil. Dismissing this fact to defend the Church is not helpful or correct.

[@mortensimonsen1645]

@@Tttb95 Inherently evil - that's strong. It could of course be true, but I still doubt it. The best thing would be how those enacting the policy back in those days thought about it. If it was really inherently evil I think no good could have come out of those schools. Would be interesting to know how the children fared - in general.

[@Tttb95]

​@@mortensimonsen1645 No it literally is. There are first hand accounts that they wanted to commit cultural genocide. They didnt even try to hide that fact. They viewed them as lesser beings. Lets compare it to the Holocaust. Many Jews made strong lifelong friendships in the camps. Thats something that is 'good', yet I hope we both agree the Holocaust was inherently evil. Lets see how the children fared? They were forcefully torn apart from their families. They were threatened and beaten if they celebrated their culture. Quite a few died hundreds of miles from their families. What part of that sounds like "Christian virtue" to you?

[@p.doetsch6209]

I would think it's understandable to raise some of these questions from outside the Catholic Church. From the inside there's no doubt that the amount of incompetence and human failure on every level only illustrates the continued support of the Divine to overcome humanity's frailty. If the expectation is that man will measure up to the Divine, there will be no end to the disappointment.

[@adenjones1802]

See thats the problem I have with the catholic church. The pope is given God like authority to be a care taker of sins. I agree that human error is a thing. Thats precisely the reason I don't believe in an infallible pope.

[@p.doetsch6209]

@@adenjones1802 You would think it would have collapsed a long time ago from it's own human shortcomings. If it wasn't instituted by Christ I wouldn't place any faith in it but there's no way this kind of holiness from some Popes combined with the absolute depravity of others is a man made invention. Infallibility doesn't apply to anything and everything. In fact it's only been invoked twice so it's not really that crucial on a day to day basis. It takes Faith but with God all things are possible.

[@adenjones1802]

@@p.doetsch6209 By holiness of the popes do you mean the ones who had orgies in the Vatican? Or the one who said hail zeus as he was gambling, again in the Vatican? You put up with all that and so much more because you believe Christ founded that church? You do realise that is not true right? Only Catholicism claims Catholicism was founded by Christ. It was founded by Constantine. A roman pagan war lord. Also why cant you at the very least be eastern orthodox? I don't like that church either but at least they don't bend the knee to a human pope. God also founded Israel and it was corrupt. They would go one to persecute the Messiah. Something I can Guarantee would have happened if Jesus came at the height of catholic power.

[@p.doetsch6209]

@@adenjones1802 Sounds like you've bought the debunked lies of Protestant propaganda. It's the same nonsense atheists peddle so it's unfortunate you practice paganism. For the first 300 years most of the Popes were martyred and shed their blood for Christ. Listen, I get it. Everybody always wants to be their own version of the Pope and call their own shots while casting stones from glass houses. That's the easy way out and requires no faith. The question is what makes you different than any other secular heathen who is equally faithless and prideful?

[@andreeattieh2963]

@@adenjones1802 the pope is infallible under certain circumstances Jesus is impeccable the pope is infallible because the holy spirit guides him You clearly don't know how the papacy works

[@kevinruiz8461]

We just need to have leaders in the Church that will stop apologizing to the world. Only to those directly effected by the scandals. We owe the World no apology. Im not ashamed to be an American. Yet we had slavery, stole the Native Americans land, and had segregation. Do I feel guilty about it. Nope. We learn from our mistakes and move on trying to not repeat them. Why no guilt, because the world is a messed up place and humans are mostly the cause of it. All we can do is improve. To apologize to the world for not being perfect is like an inmate apologizing to the entire prison for having committed a crime. It's utter nonsense.

[@leeannecontardi5732]

The Catholic Church is about JESUS and his teachings! We are not divine beings and as fallen creatures, there will always be good and bad amongst all walks of life. We Catholics must follow Jesus's examples and teachings because truth and goodness triumphs all in the end. So, I am proud to be Catholic and know that those removed from a Christian faith suffer.

[@konyvnyelv.]

The Church even said that an innocent condemned by the inquisition should not rebel in order not to damage the church's image. You find it in Francisco Pena's 'Commentary to the Manual of the inquisitor by Eymerich'

[@AlDunbar]

One difference between a child abuse by a teacher vs by a priest is that a teacher's job is to teach math, science, social studies and etc. while a priest's job is to work to further the reach of a religion that deals specifically with issues of good vs bad and morality. I agree that sexual abuse of children is horrible regardless who is doing it. The difference is that one organization is all about what is good to do and what is wrong while the other is not. This naturally gives rise to questions like "how could a priest not know it was wrong" to "how could the church appoint people that do such bad things. I think this reaction is natural and to be expected from people in general. Best to deal with it, but if the church cannot, it should turn into a school.

[@ritalouise4786]

No, I am not embarrassed to be Catholic. I am embarrassed by some ignorant Catholics

[@oliverclark5604]

The issue is grooming by diseased family members: “familyists”, of family members. This grooming has harmed directly more than I billion people. Indirectly it has harmed the great majority of the rest of the worldwide community, particularly with catastrophic sexual abuse. This grooming is with a hidden, incest connected, non-economic purported presumed status inducement for the vocation of the single consecrated person as higher than that of male-female married couple persons. This inducement of a higher vocation is evident in a Christian New Testament scripture, 1Cor7:25-34, given as purported presumed an “opinion” not given by God. It is repeatedly purported presumed over 2000 years including in St Ignatius of Loyola’s “Rules for Thinking with the Church” in his “Spiritual Exercises”, Louis J. Puhl sj, Loyola University Press. 1951, n.356. It is repeatedly purported presumed from 1954 from Pope Pius X11’s “On Holy Virginity”, SV, 1954, 24 through the Roman Catholic role group’s Vatican Council 11 “Decree on the Training of Priests”, OT, 1965, 10, Pope St John Paul 11’s Exhortation on the Family, FC, 1981, 16, his Council for the Family’s document: “The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality: Guidelines for Education Within the Family”, TTMHS, 1995, 35, and implied in his Exhortation: “On Holy Virginity”, VC, 1996, 62. It is supported by purporting presuming the reference in Pope Benedict XV1’s “Introduction to the Youth Catechism of the Catholic Church”, released 21 February 2011 by Vatican Radio to “… you all know how the community of believers has recently been wounded by the attacks of evil, by the penetration of sin inside, even into the heart of the Church”. This inducement is corrected immediately by Pope Francis starting on 19 March 2013 in his homily in the Mass for the Feast of St Joseph not ascribing entrustment of the child Jesus to the care of St Joseph. Particularly Pope Francis corrected this purporting presuming enabling insurance fraud and tax embezzlement on or just after 10 June 2021.

[@brianstankiewicz6511]

How can I stay Catholic in the face of so many transgressions....simply because it is TRUE. The TRUE refers to the fullness of Truth in the Catholic Church. It may not always appear or even be great by observation, experience or human example. The apparent failings of the Church are the sins of men and not God's. I do not follow blindly all those entrusted with leading this one TRUE Church but I will not abandon Christ in His Church because of human weakness, embarrassing scandal or horrific sin. Even one of the twelve apostles Jesus chose betrayed Him, it would be naïve and shortsighted to believe that the some of the subsequent apostles wouldn't be the same or worse. This appears to be the ugly reality of today, but Jesus is awesomely alive and well in the ONE TRUE Church he began nearly 2000 years ago. To walk away from the Church would be to walk away from Christ.

[@robertnewberry5886]

Brian, I made a comment 3 weeks ago. I have read back through the others chiming in and other comments. Some combative, rude or hateful sounding. I do not consider myself stupid because I was able to earn a bachelor's in business. However I noticed much discussion about historical events and writing and attempts to scold or reply in a condescending manner. I choose to have a childlike love and blind faith in God and deep love of Christ. Doesn't mean I'm stupid because I do not read 24 hours a day. Means I have very deep faith in the promise of salvation made by Jesus. Jesus didn't spend years teaching everybody he saved. So they were not scholars. Sometimes even simple. My opinion is too much guilt has been heaped upon the Church, clergy and believers. We no not need to defend our belief because someone else screwed up royally. We really should be more kindhearted, loving and forgiving of our brothers and sisters. Not as combative over details. Perhaps just live in faith, share the peace and focus on charity and seeing others saved. I hurt over the fact the Catholics have been so abused by people and the media. No that I am not Catholic but I love you all anyway. I wish I could meet you someday. I love your work and devotion. P.S. The fact that I was sexual abused as a child has become one of the strongest gifts that God has allowed me to reach deeply wounded people for Christ. It gives me the opportunity to show how Jesus still wants me, loves me and uses me for his glory. A small price to pay to point other to His deliverance and Salvation.

[@susiefromomaha]

Great podcast and information, Brian. I just saw that there is an error about 16:20 French Revolution is "Revolutin" - it's missing the "o." Thought you might want to correct that. God bless you.

[@nildarodriguez3974]

No. I defend my faith when I am challenged. Jesus came to redeem us. Not His fault we botch things up repeatedly so I persevere. Thank you, Brian.

[@FoxShibumi420]

I'm embarrassed for u then since u can't accept how dumb your beliefs are

[@warrenoleary7172]

Amen !

[@oliverclark5604]

For me it is not "faith" I defend but my 'belief'. Faith with thinking are the two components of belief.

[@timisa58]

You didn't botch anything up. Your faith teaches that a mistake made by the original man condemns you before you were even born. Let that sink in. You are guilty as soon as you are born and you haven't done anything. And the fact you continue to botch things up clearly indicates that you do not have god in your life. Right?

[@EasternRomeOrthodoxy]

@@timisa58 Ignorant, learn about Catholic/Orthodox faiths before making a fool of yourself. We believe it condems the human race not you individually! 🤦‍♂️

[@miajane3878]

I love to defend My Catholic Church as a whole body of Christ. I love learning the Catholic Bible.. Mother Angelica EWTN had a big one.. I've studied over 25 years. Love Father Mike and Bishop Robert Barron my favorites been watching The Bishop Robert for15 yrs my favorite was Catholism every thing you need to learn about the Church as a whole 🙏🏼🤷✝️🕊️🕊️🤷👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼

[@FiciousCritik]

21:00 - Who dresses that critter? Where do they buy its clothes. What does it eat?

[@olgaplatt9221]

Dear Brian, What exactly is the creed you are referring to? I have tried to look up „Catholic creed“ but all I can find is the Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed. Is it one of them? However I think they are the creeds of all Christian churches.

[@BrianHoldsworth]

By creed, I mean the general content of beliefs and teachings. This is best summarized by the Nicene Creed but the whole of it would be found in Catholic Catechisms.

[@anthonypuccetti8779]

The Catholic Church is the one true Church that Christ built upon Peter. It is a divine institution, the body of Christ, the household of God. It has done no wrong. We profess belief in it in the apostles' creed.

[@diegobarragan4904]

So the church is something outside of Christ?

[@anthonypuccetti8779]

@@diegobarragan4904 No, how did you get that? The Church is the mystical body of Christ.

[@diegobarragan4904]

@@anthonypuccetti8779 because you said Christ built the church upon another person…

[@anthonypuccetti8779]

@@diegobarragan4904 He built it upon Peter. Matthew 16: [16] Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. [17] And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. [18] And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

[@diegobarragan4904]

@@anthonypuccetti8779 but the Church is Christ himself…

[@AprendeMovimiento]

I love the Church soooo much, being innocent and Holy she accepts the blame of the atrocities she didn't do to follow the steps of Christ, she always proves herself worthy of the love of God. I always say to everyone, we must be Holy, or goal in life should be to be holy and that's it, nothing else, and to do so the Church has all that you need, she provides all the teachings, sacraments and sacramentals we need to be holy people, I mean she is the means by which God himself becomes present to us in the most obvious and direct way possible.

[@oliverclark5604]

Aprende Movimiento, Is it that you love a role, what one does, or an identity, who one is? The issue is grooming by diseased family members: “familyists”, of family members. This grooming has harmed directly more than I billion people. Indirectly it has harmed the great majority of the rest of the worldwide community, particularly with catastrophic sexual abuse. This grooming is with a hidden, incest connected, non-economic purported presumed status inducement for the vocation of the single consecrated person as higher than that of male-female married couple persons. This inducement of a higher vocation is evident in a Christian New Testament scripture, 1Cor7:25-34, given as purported presumed an “opinion” not given by God. It is repeatedly purported presumed over 2000 years including in St Ignatius of Loyola’s “Rules for Thinking with the Church” in his “Spiritual Exercises”, Louis J. Puhl sj, Loyola University Press. 1951, n.356. It is repeatedly purported presumed from 1954 from Pope Pius X11’s “On Holy Virginity”, SV, 1954, 24 through the Roman Catholic role group’s Vatican Council 11 “Decree on the Training of Priests”, OT, 1965, 10, Pope St John Paul 11’s Exhortation on the Family, FC, 1981, 16, his Council for the Family’s document: “The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality: Guidelines for Education Within the Family”, TTMHS, 1995, 35, and implied in his Exhortation: “On Holy Virginity”, VC, 1996, 62. It is supported by purporting presuming the reference in Pope Benedict XV1’s “Introduction to the Youth Catechism of the Catholic Church”, released 21 February 2011 by Vatican Radio to “… you all know how the community of believers has recently been wounded by the attacks of evil, by the penetration of sin inside, even into the heart of the Church”. This inducement is corrected immediately by Pope Francis starting on 19 March 2013 in his homily in the Mass for the Feast of St Joseph not ascribing entrustment of the child Jesus to the care of St Joseph. Particularly Pope Francis corrected this purporting presuming enabling insurance fraud and tax embezzlement on or just after 10 June 2021.

[@KrazyKaiser]

I've never heard a catholic say "actually, the pope isn't in charge of and responsible for catholicism." That seems... wrong, I'm pretty sure that's the entire point.

[@ayenewyihune]

Victors write the history books 22:06, right

[@oliverclark5604]

The issue is grooming by diseased family members: “familyists”, of family members. This grooming has harmed directly more than I billion people. Indirectly it has harmed the great majority of the rest of the worldwide community, particularly with catastrophic sexual abuse. This grooming is with a hidden, incest connected, non-economic purported presumed status inducement for the vocation of the single consecrated person as higher than that of male-female married couple persons. This inducement of a higher vocation is evident in a Christian New Testament scripture, 1Cor7:25-34, given as purported presumed an “opinion” not given by God. It is repeatedly purported presumed over 2000 years including in St Ignatius of Loyola’s “Rules for Thinking with the Church” in his “Spiritual Exercises”, Louis J. Puhl sj, Loyola University Press. 1951, n.356. It is repeatedly purported presumed from 1954 from Pope Pius X11’s “On Holy Virginity”, SV, 1954, 24 through the Roman Catholic role group’s Vatican Council 11 “Decree on the Training of Priests”, OT, 1965, 10, Pope St John Paul 11’s Exhortation on the Family, FC, 1981, 16, his Council for the Family’s document: “The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality: Guidelines for Education Within the Family”, TTMHS, 1995, 35, and implied in his Exhortation: “On Holy Virginity”, VC, 1996, 62. It is supported by purporting presuming the reference in Pope Benedict XV1’s “Introduction to the Youth Catechism of the Catholic Church”, released 21 February 2011 by Vatican Radio to “… you all know how the community of believers has recently been wounded by the attacks of evil, by the penetration of sin inside, even into the heart of the Church”. This inducement is corrected immediately by Pope Francis starting on 19 March 2013 in his homily in the Mass for the Feast of St Joseph not ascribing entrustment of the child Jesus to the care of St Joseph. Particularly Pope Francis corrected this purporting presuming enabling insurance fraud and tax embezzlement on or just after 10 June 2021.

[@delightharriet1711]

No I cannot be embarrassed I'm actually proud to be one because it is Christ founded

[@triciaperry2234]

The same lie over and over again. You all will beome Woke on Judgement day Cause there isn't a PURGATORY and this cult has more rituals and traditions that Jesus said don't do than a zebra has strips.

[@djf5069]

When people talk of the “millions” killed by the church during the Inquisition and Crusades i just laugh. And so does any honest person who knows anything about church history.

[@cslewis1404]

Any books you recommend? I have one of the politically incorrect books, about crusades.

[@oliverclark5604]

What about billions put at risk of "spiritual death" by those who give "scandal" (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2284). The issue is grooming by diseased family members: “familyists”, of family members. This grooming has harmed directly more than I billion people. Indirectly it has harmed the great majority of the rest of the worldwide community, particularly with catastrophic sexual abuse. This grooming is with a hidden, incest connected, non-economic purported presumed status inducement for the vocation of the single consecrated person as higher than that of male-female married couple persons. This inducement of a higher vocation is evident in a Christian New Testament scripture, 1Cor7:25-34, given as purported presumed an “opinion” not given by God. It is repeatedly purported presumed over 2000 years including in St Ignatius of Loyola’s “Rules for Thinking with the Church” in his “Spiritual Exercises”, Louis J. Puhl sj, Loyola University Press. 1951, n.356. It is repeatedly purported presumed from 1954 from Pope Pius X11’s “On Holy Virginity”, SV, 1954, 24 through the Roman Catholic role group’s Vatican Council 11 “Decree on the Training of Priests”, OT, 1965, 10, Pope St John Paul 11’s Exhortation on the Family, FC, 1981, 16, his Council for the Family’s document: “The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality: Guidelines for Education Within the Family”, TTMHS, 1995, 35, and implied in his Exhortation: “On Holy Virginity”, VC, 1996, 62. It is supported by purporting presuming the reference in Pope Benedict XV1’s “Introduction to the Youth Catechism of the Catholic Church”, released 21 February 2011 by Vatican Radio to “… you all know how the community of believers has recently been wounded by the attacks of evil, by the penetration of sin inside, even into the heart of the Church”. This inducement is corrected immediately by Pope Francis starting on 19 March 2013 in his homily in the Mass for the Feast of St Joseph not ascribing entrustment of the child Jesus to the care of St Joseph. Particularly Pope Francis corrected this purporting presuming enabling insurance fraud and tax embezzlement on or just after 10 June 2021.

[@djf5069]

@@oliverclark5604 The Vatican2 sect and the Catholic church are two different things.

[@mariondapsance7803]

If you read French, read Xavier Martin's books on the "Enlightenment" philosophers. I think there is one of his books translated into English. An absolute must. (Most of the French philosophers didn't believe in free will and in the unity of the human race, and thought it was not worth educating the peasants, and were very, very racist and despised women. All this came precisely because they rejected the Catholic worldview).

[@aboveallsecurity]

I’m a first time watcher. Thanks for the impressive commentary. You are a blessing to the church and the world.

[@yevaud]

I think one of the main things I would say in defense is that a church of any reasonable size is more than just the actions of select bad actors ... and get big enough scandal is almost inevitable just due to how many people are involved

[@user-ky5dy5hl4d]

''Religion poisons everything''. Christopher Hitchens.

[@browncony3897]

​ @Mark Pugner *Scriptures is inspired by God = Scriptures come from God" implies "God decided which books".* *You lose once again.* you said If it was God who decided what books are in the Bible, where is that recorded? Just saying "Scriptures are inspired by God" isn't an answer!

[@imjustheretogrill4794]

I think the difference is the clear cover up and further revelations of massive abuse that continue to unfold. Each time, we learn that more and more knew and did little. Bishops, priests, nuns, and popes are guilty of knowledge on a large scale. Why was nothing done then or now? That’s the question. Did Pope Francis really not know about McCarik? This was the largest hurdle to my entry.

[@oliverclark5604]

I believe in uncertainty that one does not make "entry" to a "do-ing" role such as the "Catholic Church", but only to a "be-ing" family at one's conception. "more and more knew" for me is 'the "great majority of marriages are invalid" (Pope Francis, 2015) and hence had "little" faith and "did little". For me the keeping of the inseparability and qualitative equality; that is, covenant, non-presumed reciprocity, of 'having faith' and 'do-ing' thinking is belief. For me "knew" is not the same as "believe[d]" in uncertainty (cf. RSV John 20:29: Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe."

[@imjustheretogrill4794]

@@oliverclark5604 I’m actually getting baptized this Easter so I haven’t officially done either.

[@djf5069]

@@imjustheretogrill4794 “Pope” Francis isn’t Catholic. There are certain things you must believe to be Catholic. Francis has repeatedly rejected many of those things.

[@Fiona2254]

@@djf5069 and still God allows him to be there. Francis is not the Church, we are. Good priests are. We have had much worse people as popes (Borgias) and the Church will always survive. How do we know? Because He told us. We must have faith in God and His reason for allowing Francis to become pope because His plans are always better than ours. Pray, Hope and Don’t Worry - St Padre Pío And fast and pray some more.

[@djf5069]

@@Fiona2254 🤦‍♀️ you don’t know what it means to be Catholic.

[@everetunknown5890]

Thanks for another great video. A lot of people point to the Old Testament and say that it is filled with violence and other immoral things. The conquest of the land of Canaan specifically comes to mind. But critics are not quick to acknowledge the atrocious deeds that were done by the people who lived there beforehand. Conquest is not something looked favorably upon in our current culture, whether it's the native tribes of America or even colonialism by the British as you mentioned. But God does not allow these things to happen to a whole group of people for no good reason.

[@greatpretender83]

Are you on Spotiffy?

[@janetplonka8110]

Once I found out about the truth of V2/ Novus Ordo, sexual scandals & it’s secularism I am embarrassed. Thankfully for the pandemic I learned about TLM & everything traditional, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, SSPX & FSSP, the Mass of the Ages. I get all my resources from Pre Vatican & rely on this instead of anything after V2 I’m no longer embarrassed

[@Hope20249]

Thanks Brian. Interesting piece.God bless.

[@soulkingbrook6501]

Embarrassed? I'm more proud.

[@jediv9492]

​ @Mark Lizama *Who says R Church = the Church Christ founded or the Universal Church? Pls dont assume. Where is your proof?* you said The Church is only infallible when regards to proclaiming the teachings of Jesus Christ,

[@Andrew-pm5bg]

Wonderful video. Very informative. Very thoughtful. Very balanced. Thank you.

[@314jph]

"Catholicism wasn't tried and found wanting, it was found hard, and left untried", GK Chesterton

[@gggumdrop3335]

How do we come back to the church when we have lived so long without AND without the support of those around us seeking such?

[@elainehightower]

Listen to Catholic radio for support. I recommend the Patrick Madrid show on Relevant Radio. I’m the only Catholic in my family. I learned a lot about the faith through Catholic radio before I ever stepped inside a Catholic Church.

[@alhilford2345]

Are you lapsed Catholic? Have you been baptized, made first Communion and Confession? If so, simply go to Confession and talk to the priest. God WANTS you back. St. Thomas a Kempis says that He "... pursues us with His mercy..."

[@browncony3897]

​ @Mark Pugner *Typical R Catholics fallacious argument. So now you are saying its Not God who ultimately decided which books? Bible does say Scriptures are God Breathed/inspired by God. So its decided by God. You are wrong yet again. The doctrine is in the Bible. You see? You do not read the Bible.* you said You say "God decided which books". But that doctrine is not in the Bible, so you are going beyond Scripture, which you say is wrong. So how does that work?

[@soniabiemans2894]

Thank you for sharing 🙏

[@oelaist]

Thanks Brian Another good one 👍

[@Irevanix]

A whole lot of words just to say "Those things aren't the church's fault, they were sins from the individual members." Gish-galloper? The only problem with that is that these "sins" are continuously repeated... and the church doesn't take necessary action to prevent them, and in fact is often accused of covering them up. Hard to listen to conclusions strung off from presupposition after presupposition. Either a true believer, or a liar. But ego enough to preach. You sure you aren't a protestant?

[@antoniodesousa9723]

well I'm a catholic because I believe it is the the best way for me to reach paradise. Not saying others who have never heard of Jesus Christ can't go to heaven, that's not their fault. So as the only path for me, then I remain faithful and if others fall by the wayside or lose their way, unfortunately that is their choice and doesn't affect my goal.

[@nikki7369]

The BEST explanation of depending the Catholic Church! Plus, THANK YOU for NOT saying 'Roman' in front the word 'Catholic'. We are Catholics NOT Roman Catholics 👍

[@ricardoheredia7307]

STANDING OVATION👏👏👏👏👏👏👏BRILLIANT ARTICULATION!;;;;;;

[@silveriorebelo2920]

Brian, I don't agree with your way of dealing with the Canadian question - we all need to say outloud that there has been no abuse in the catholic schools nor in any other Christian schools in the indian areas of Canada - period - and explain that the idea there has been such thing results from a organized campaign of defamation... when a community is accused of mass murder, you cannot go on saying that, yes, there have been abuses, when the limited problems that may have existed have NOTHING to do with murdering actions...

[@abdumasihalarkhabil9667]

The Church is like the Israelite, have been through all the good and bad, and suffer alot by a systematic disruption and threat by evil spirit through any possible vehicles.. Yet the Church survive and manage to maintaine the apostles teaching

[@Teamfra]

Don’t ever doubt the power and necessity of your voice and wisdom for these videos! 💥🙏🏻🙌🏻thank you!

[@marymcgloin3663]

Well said Brian Holdsworth.

[@jediv9910]

​ @Mark Pugner *You are proving canon was not fixed. Thank you. Arent you refuting yourself? R Catholics always claimed canon was fixed by them. You are proving opposite. Lolol* you said Thirteen (sorry, I misremembered it as 14) groups using different sets of writing for the Old Testament: Jewish (included because they also differ with the various Christian canons) Lutheran Anglican Other Protestant (there are some variations between the above three, depending who you ask) (the following groups generally believe that they have the authority to pick what is Scripture) Catholic Greek Orthodox Slavonic Orthodox Georgian Orthodox Armenian Apostolic Syriac Orthodox Coptic Orthodox Orthodox Tewahedo Assyrian Church

[@manuelguzman230]

Another fact about the inquisition: the protestant inquisition that took place in Germany and some parts of France were bloodier than the Spanish ones, however, the inquisition is more related to Spain and the Catholic Church

[@cabellero1120]

no. I'm not embarrassed to be Catholic.

[@victoriacastro1729]

If you want to further read about the Spanish black legend, there is a book called Tree of Hate written by Phillip W. Powell. I understand that this is not important for most people to remain faithful but Spain did a lot of wonderful things in Latin America due to her love for God: built cities, schools, hospitals, universities, churches, orphanages, trade schools, art schools, taught us her precious faith and language. Missionaries even preserved and wrote indigenous tongues, history and poems that they just had in oral tradition. We could still see the Spanish influence in our cities whose inhabitants are a mix between white and indigenous. Moreover, indigenous were not subject to the Inquisition because they were in this process of being evangelized, so the Catholic Church understood that they could not be held accountable for some misunderstandig of the doctrine. Another thing that it is not known is that peoples like Aztecs or Caribbeans used to offer massive human sacrifices to their gods and ate human flesh, that is why other folks allied quickly with Spaniards. I do not say that it was perfect, but in summary it was good for our countries.

[@astrinymris9953]

6:25 The thing is, when a public school teacher commits a crime against some of their pupils, the school administration fires them! They don't transfer them to a different public school system, again and again and again. If for some reason there's not enough evidence to fire a tenured teacher, they assign them to a "rubber room" where they do administrative tasks and never come into contact with vulnerable minors. If the RCC had followed a similar policy with their predator priests... well, there would be a lot less outrage against the Catholic Church. As for the argument that each-diocese-is-an-independent-organization, I assure you that if a bishop started openly ordaining women and conducting same-sex marriages the Vatican would take immediate action to shut this down. If the laity of a given parish decided to secede from the larger church while keeping all the infrastructure, again the hierarchy would act to claim that all this was "church property", and the parishioners had no claim to it. Never mind that the land was purchased and the buildings built using their tithes and the tithes of their parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. TL; DR-- the Magisterium only pulls out that claim that each individual parish and/or diocese is an independent entity when it's in their institutional interest to do so. At all other times, the Papal Curia acts like the unaccountable executive board of a multi-billion dollar for-profit business. You can't have it both ways with any intellectual honesty.

[@DakkogiRauru23]

This is a very simplistic way of viewing the comparison. Some teachers do get to keep their jobs. Many molesters will and have gotten away with their crimes. You are also assuming this only concerns North American institutions. Globally, the world is full of crime, corruption and abuse. And yet we don’t condemn the whole world for the same reason that we don’t condemn anyone for someone’s crimes a whole continent away.

[@DakkogiRauru23]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush No, He didn’t. The world deserved condemnation, but God refused to condemn it, thus taking on our sin on Himself, that we instead might be saved. If God looked at us in such a redeeming way, who are we to say the world cannot be redeemed?

[@DakkogiRauru23]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush That is called judgement and justice, and if you noticed, these are specific times and places where it happens. Also, Jesus literally founded the church. You’re going to tell Him He got it wrong? Also, God never put sin in us. We chose sin on our own free will.

[@DakkogiRauru23]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush Jesus founded the Catholic Church. We know this because it was the only church from the very beginning, and the Apostles and their students called it the Catholic Church as early as 160AD as per St. Ignatius of Antioch. No one is usurping what Jesus said. He gave His Apostles and their successors the authority to teach, to loose and bind, to forgive sins, and mostly importantly, protection from the gates of hell. So yeah, you’ve got your history wrong there.

[@DakkogiRauru23]

@Driftwood&Sagebrush I think you misunderstand what the concept of original sin is. It is the reality of generational sin. We bear the tendency to rebel from God as developed by Adam by his own rebellion. You see this in the whole narrative of the bible, where successive generations after Adam commit more and even worse sins. And you only need to look at history for concrete examples of generational sin: slavery, war, tyranny, sexual immorality, over many generations.

[@its4it]

Well said, Brian. It’s videos like yours that help me stay Catholic.

[@jeffbutterfield3158]

"Aren't you embarrassed to be Catholic?" "Aren't you embarrassed to be American?" "Excuse me? I'm PROUD to be American, thank you very much!" "Why, when considering all the atrocities Americans have been part of over the years? Slavery, racism, supporting oppressive foreign governments, Vietnam--" "You... You're ignoring every good thing America has ever done!" "Aren't you doing the same with the Church, when you ask me if I'm embarrassed to be Catholic?" -- silence -- "That's different." "No. Not really."

[@oliverclark5604]

The issue is grooming by diseased family members: “familyists”, of family members. This grooming has harmed directly more than I billion people. Indirectly it has harmed the great majority of the rest of the worldwide community, particularly with catastrophic sexual abuse. This grooming is with a hidden, incest connected, non-economic purported presumed status inducement for the vocation of the single consecrated person as higher than that of male-female married couple persons. This inducement of a higher vocation is evident in a Christian New Testament scripture, 1Cor7:25-34, given as purported presumed an “opinion” not given by God. It is repeatedly purported presumed over 2000 years including in St Ignatius of Loyola’s “Rules for Thinking with the Church” in his “Spiritual Exercises”, Louis J. Puhl sj, Loyola University Press. 1951, n.356. It is repeatedly purported presumed from 1954 from Pope Pius X11’s “On Holy Virginity”, SV, 1954, 24 through the Roman Catholic role group’s Vatican Council 11 “Decree on the Training of Priests”, OT, 1965, 10, Pope St John Paul 11’s Exhortation on the Family, FC, 1981, 16, his Council for the Family’s document: “The Truth and Meaning of Human Sexuality: Guidelines for Education Within the Family”, TTMHS, 1995, 35, and implied in his Exhortation: “On Holy Virginity”, VC, 1996, 62. It is supported by purporting presuming the reference in Pope Benedict XV1’s “Introduction to the Youth Catechism of the Catholic Church”, released 21 February 2011 by Vatican Radio to “… you all know how the community of believers has recently been wounded by the attacks of evil, by the penetration of sin inside, even into the heart of the Church”. This inducement is corrected immediately by Pope Francis starting on 19 March 2013 in his homily in the Mass for the Feast of St Joseph not ascribing entrustment of the child Jesus to the care of St Joseph. Particularly Pope Francis corrected this purporting presuming enabling insurance fraud and tax embezzlement on or just after 10 June 2021.

[@browncony3897]

​ @Lonnie Stoute ​ *Still dodging?* *BIBLE and HISTORY did not say Roman sect was the CHURCH founded by CHRIST or the UNIVERSAL CHURCH or one true church. So where is your proof that it was?* YOU: toward the Church

[@jediv9910]

​ @Mark Pugner *Bible says Scriptures is God breathed/inspired. So God decided. God inspired Man to write the Scriptures. They knew exactly which were Scriptures. Jesus and Apostles were already using inspired Scriptures. To say otherwise is complete h - sy.* you said If "God decided which books" where is that recorded? Why do different groups of people who call themselves Christian have different books they believe to be part of the Bible?

[@drexeljrcanasa8528]

That was enlightening. You just answered the question in my mind.

[@miroslawturski]

Thank you Brian. As usual very insightful.

[@portopottybreath9375]

Never will be ashamed. The positives far outweigh any negatives. But the spirit of the organization, not anyone person or people, the spirit is just wonderful. No doubt about it.

[@the2ndcoming135]

That’s like asking someone how they can dare continue being a male with a trend of misogyny on the rise🙂