The Evolution of Black Smoke Racing | Diesel Drift Build VS Build

[@fredrikpersson5532]

The sound in The old wagon, with both supercharger and turbo sure is something else! 🤩🤘

[@miopiispanen7907]

There was a supercharger?

[@spiritwolf7]

Nope only a swedish scania turbo

[@miopiispanen7907]

@@spiritwolf7 actually there was a supercharger

[@TTURBOVOLVO]

@@spiritwolf7 eatom m90 supercharger

[@jeejeeism]

Teemu's old w123 is a legend, little respect dude! ✌

[@TheOystei]

i would have scored the old car with 4/5 for sound and 5/5 for looks.

[@TheOystei]

@@grumblo maybe it's the rose colored nostalgia glasses but i remember when that thing first turned up at Gatebil, and it was just insane, i believe it had a doubble subwoofer as well :P

[@celmotors]

They deserves top points for the effort and they knowledge they proved! Your score is underrating

[@SeiskaTie]

The one thing that you forget to mention was that new om648 turns out 7000 rpm! That is insane revs for diesel engine, almost a double to standard om648

[@konradbob7660]

How they did it ? I ask out of curious

[@cottard7698]

There is another thing he forgot to mention .. the old W123 had (at least for a time) an original 722.6 automatic gearbox!

[@spooky8172]

The w123 has always been one of my fav drift cars 5/5 for look and sound from me ;-)

[@jopoviz]

Still 123 was way cooler! It got more balls💪

[@bamschheadshop3896]

Mercedes ist king

[@IgorLapa]

Old legend was a legend, but the new one - will be the greatest one

[@gauiveb5821]

Them boys in finland are living it up.. the music.. vodka and sauna.. i was born in wrong country

[@maagi128]

Ite was 2017 when i first saw Teemu driving this beast and he ran over 5bar boost Back then. It was amaizing to see when compressor of The turbo exploded during full drift, some say that there was about 8bar at The moment.

[@10GTE]

Hmm, look, call me crazy, I don't agree. I think the w123 looked and sounded way better. I was sad when they replaced the shell 😢

[@john_barnett]

i think 95 percent of car people would prefer the w123 any day

[@heinzkot360]

The OM648 was FIRST introduced in 2002 not in 2000 !!! The S and E Classes you are talking about have the OM613 straight six CDI ... the first Car with this Motor (OM648) was the w220 Mopf/Facelift model in 2002. After that the w211 was the next and ONLY Model to find an OM648 in. Just 3 years after its first appeal it was discontinued because of the v6 OM642 wich was more modern in many ways... tbh i struggle to know wich are the main differences between the OM613 and OM648 but there are some ;) At first they look almost the same. They actually share a good number of parts. But after a little while you notice more and more differences

[@superliegebeest544]

Nevermind ur score the old one is the master any day of the week

[@nicolasp7395]

Ey your vídeos are pretty good! Love diesel content

[@paalbrudevoll6330]

123 is the ultimate surprise and overperforms over expectations.

[@averagedev7768]

Where i live W123 200E SW with LPG are used as funeral cars all the time so when i saw it drifting for the first time like craizy i imediatly taught POV: when you are late for a funeral

[@TheAntoine191]

w123 definitely a 5 for look.

[@BoostWorx]

You didn't show the w203 before the facelifted it back when it was orange and black would have been good to see the differences they made to make it look like it does. Overall good video

[@zl_390]

I love the contrast of how the black smoke coming out from the hood exit in a mercedes

[@janiseittu6618]

Kaunista! 💪😎😎

[@peternicolaisen2116]

i would always go for the old wagon even with lag of power

[@hasanaman3960]

3 kinds of smoke 🤣

[@snabbkebab2963]

This channel going to explode very very soon

[@maggiepie8810]

This is such a hardcore build that it can only come from Finland. Miata happy smile from Sweden. 🤘😂

[@spiritwolf7]

Dont agree at all ..w123 sounds great and the performance is insane in comparison with a petrol engine ,looks much better than the new one..I take the old mercedez every day..its a masterpiece in power

[@lee-z3w]

W123 (old wagon) W 203 5,5 /5 🏎 performance 4,5 / 5 7 /5 🤩 look 3 / 5 4,5 /5 sound 4 / 5

[@MrAndrius12]

IMHO OM606 will always sound 5/5.

[@ipexw9253]

old 123 is a legendary

[@biglovesam]

Can we have more details on what was done to the Om648?

[@user-yp6iv6gv4o]

nowdays they have twin turbo om648

[@du-nicht]

The om606 ist the best Diesel engine ever

[@RST-R-MODS]

For power yes,for reliability is the OM601 :)

[@BlackSmokeLtd]

For power and reliability om648 is superior 😎🤷‍♂️

[@Diesel8290]

@@BlackSmokeLtd but damn does it sound good 😎

[@bahamarji918]

The lookc and sound of the S123 is a winner.. The scene of a grany car ripping rubber on the track is unique and unparalleled by any other team. If i would drift a mercedes i will go with the s123. It is s btw for the station wagon not w

[@daviddias9683]

Om606 all day !! That om648 nothing from stock engine!! Om648 is just a number code in this car !!

[@ashleydaniels1132]

man i loved this!!!! i have a son who is 15,, and well im looking at a W124 TE, with a 606 in it, tune it a little at first. here in South Africa, not easy cars to buy, let alone the engine. but with a bit luck, ill find something. here we have a W123,running a 11,5 quarter, unofficially, as it was not on a recognized track. but drift, here??? somewhat of a novel idea for this car...mmm. hit like,sub'd and hit the bell icon.

[@Tenavamersu]

Rakastan tota ”reili mersua” elikkä 123

[@Zulebmwe007]

Toooppp

[@ONESource-s4p]

W204 indeed

[@heikkikarjalainen2029]

todella hävytön arvostelu mielestäni

[@Meton12765]

The current iteration of the engine is not run in race conditions at anywhere near the RPMs where it attains peak power and torque, what the current iteration of the engine achieves is completely otherworldly for a Diesel, that is it can rev beyond 9000rpm and is licking the 10 000rpm barrier. This is completely beyond traditional engineering of a diesel engine, even if you take into account advances in lowering a diesels reciprocating weight and ability rev with computer controlled engine management with the CDI. And it maintains a power output of just south of 450hp to the top of the that rev range and some 500Nm of torque, this is where Teemu is operating the engine when he wants to make the tires spin while maintaining the sort of slides and billows of tire smoke, that he is able to compete with the gasoline powered solutions on offer, north of 8000rpm. Since peak power and torque is not very relevant for drifting as you're ability to keep as much additional speed into the tires with maintaining control over this at your leisure is the key, while making enough torque and power to keep the tires spinning much faster than the car is transferring into actual forward motion. This is why for example, Wankel's are still built for the sport while no other sport would even consider them as a viable option for racing a car. They like to rev fast and make usable power at their top end, while they certainly are not very conducive to making much torque, in any case, even with high boost levels. The reciprocating assembly just won't do that in the Wankel rotor and that's why they keep adding rotors to them all the time, and seeing what that does. LOL- They like to spin fast, and regardless of what type of engine you build this out of, the power and torque figures at high rpm are going to be drastically lower than what the thing can punch out at the peak. After the system peaks, these figures come down like an anvil in freefall and keeping this from dropping below usable levels is extremely difficult, this is because after that point the amount of energy needed to keep the thing moving faster than it wants to rev, is not only substracted from that figure, this resistance to going beyond this barrier will increase usually at a exponential rate after that point, so even if in simplified theory by making an engine rev twice as fast than an engine of the same displacement, should double the power, this isn't something you can achieve linearly, this point is defined by bore and stroke of the engine. This is defined by the stroke and bore of the engine. You'd want to halve the stroke and double the bore to go from an engine to which 5000rpm is the end of the world to achieving 10 000rpm with the same displacement of the engine. What these guys have not done, is significantly modify any of that and they've somehow managed to build a fucking diesel engine that is reciprocating at a peak rev range most diesel engine building engineers consider completely impossible to achieve in any situation. Yeah, that's black magic alright. Shame most people have little interest in how fucking beyond the abilities of literally nearly all major diesel engine manufacturers R&D labs this thing is and myopically stare at the fucking peak power and torque figures, when Teemu having even 50% of that available at a engine reciprocal rate that's considered _impossible_ to attain with a diesel engine, is literally pushing diesel engine dynamics beyond modern fucking engineering on a level that the contemporary wizards for achieving impossible dynamic features with a fucking gasoline engine are literally Cosworth and the T.50 for Gordon Murray Automotive. And those guys play with a much bigger budget for one.

[@mrimtiaz8381]

👍🏻💪

[@AgriTV24]

Man hört gar nicht den deutschen Akzent 😂

[@ardeeljohannes4978]

123 ftw...

[@dexterj490]

Old car sounds better

[@markbroad119]

W123 is way better

[@Videosakko]

Very biased score on the looks and sound. i dont like those numbers...