The Evolution of Lighting Technology! - From The Stash Podcast Ep.176

In this episode the boys talk about the evolution of lighting technology. From the HID to the LED and beyond!
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[@OgLtBlazer556]

In the UK back in the 90s most home busts were because the HID lights were melting the snow on the roof of the homes during the winter. So the home with a clean roof had a grow in the attic.

[@Fstate]

Small town Midwest US 2004ish we a had a big grow in the basement. 2 blocks down house raided because of the clean roof right after a blizzard. It was the high school math teacher. Lived alone and had the whole house filled kitchen and all. Poor guy prob got 10 years. We were 18 and homies mom was dating the only cop in town so we felt untouchable lol. Barely made it out free and alive now I grow legal and laugh that my roof melts before everyone else 😂

[@TrentSalem]

Having 280-watts with the EVO3 in my 2x4 is amazing, man they've come a long way, we used to have three 1200-watt HPS in a 10x12 room in 2012...real hot. LED's are unreal now, they win in so many areas.

[@undergroundish3135]

Think about this: some folks in temperate climates now need small space heaters in the tent because the LED lights don't throw off enough heat to keep the plants warm lol if that's not progress in light tech idk what is

[@anthonyrafferty8594]

I and I'm sure alot of folks that watch your channels appreciate the time you guys put in and the knowledge your kicking for free so people can learn to grow their own medicine. You are creating bonds and memories that last 4 life.

[@gangofgreenhorns2672]

I'm still on a mag ballast with a hortilux lol, call it "vintage, artisanally grown".

[@Sidebranches]

Sorry you’re wrong. The sun ☀️ is the artesian grown

[@crazy_injinkc]

First grow I helped with over a decade ago was under hps in a fake room built into a basement. 6 years ago i helped a homie do a few runs under some blurples in another hidden room in a basement. My states legal now and I feel spoiled with my 720w bar light in a 4x4 in my room with no worries and no problems. Times have changed.

[@timbaker266]

Im 62 years old watching you from central KY i love your videos ❤

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

I still got my blurples they're doing pretty good😂

[@jonathanryan124]

Same

[@anthonyrafferty8594]

I watched a FirstSmoke Of The Day podcast and they had the creator of Faven lighting and he was talking about how under canope was looking like the next wave in the lighting space.

[@Texas_Holistic_Cultivators]

I’ve got a SF G8600 in a 4x4, an SF SE4500 with 2 SF UV/IR in a 2x4, and an AC Infinity Ionboard S33 in a 2x2. It may be overboard but I’ve been extra my whole life 😂

[@thomassteinke2532]

Digital timer with battery backup

[@briandocherty4024]

Great topic guys I have been only growing near 4yr and almost every light you have mentioned I've tried. I learned the hard way but now I can say that the most important thing is lighting. Can I ask you to discuss when should you start the countdown for the beginning of flower. Is it from the day you switch to 12/12 or when you see the first signs of pistols preflower as I have always waited for the first sign of pistols rather than the day of 12/12.Thanks guys stay lifted peace out from Scotland 🦍🌱🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

[@MrTroutbum05]

I remember starting with hydro and used those freaking super hot metal halide, then getting out and coming back and realizing that LED is actually good. Now, two tents later, both running all the newest stuff, and its amazing. Great episode guys

[@simonson4728]

Beeder and or crossing strains and or cultivars. ( no male hunting involved anymore) are like White Widow, Gorilla Glue, Skunk, Ruteralis, Northern lights

[@junkinstein2856]

I still use mechanical timers

[@Darko1324]

same

[@xrpdude5496]

I Had 6" parabolic reflectors with a Whirliegig Sun Circle moving 2 1000 watt lights in a circle and a sun Trac moving 1 light back and forth 6' . Light movers work with LED's now too getting more coverage with plants getting enough DLI with these bar light now! Super way to get more for your money! ! light in a 5 x 10 but rooms are better. My 1st LED's were COB's

[@twistedrootfarm]

Hell ya another super show .it really helps making us feel like we are just chillin with brothers and bullshitn

[@LostGenes]

I appreciate the conversation, definitely a good episode to enjoy with a morning "coffee".

[@marks4745]

I’m back to using mechanical timers, I used to use smart plugs but my router died and the plugs won’t sync up with the new router. The old timers still work fine.

[@undergroundish3135]

When i was your age we had to grow cannabis by TORCH LIGHT! And we LIKED it that way!😅

[@comfortablynumb9342]

Great episode fellas, y'all are killing it.

[@BrianM-44041]

Perhaps some form of fiber optic lighting? 360 lighting? Filtered lasers? Sulfur bulbs? Plasma bulbs? Gas discharge tube lighting on a grander scale? Lighting is surprisingly not advancing as quickly as one might hope. A stoner needs to invent the next wave of lights. I would like to see a light capable of regulating ideal light intensity and temp across the canopy using sensors and quantum. A tent like space that adapted to the plant throughout the grow would be nice too.

[@jackyd2001]

Oh yeah just in time for a trim session

[@ShortyYamamoto]

And another one!! We're just getting spoiled this weekend!! Thanks fellas!

[@matrixresetinprogress]

Story time. I started growing back in 91. Buddy and I took 5 or 6 hps fixtures from the local super market who were throwing them away . They were replacing them all with new , remodeled the entire store. Anyways, they were all 1000 watt high pressure sodiums with the orange redish hue. We had to rewire them all and insert with 110 plug ins grounded. I dont recommenddoing any of this btw. Not recommended. And we ran 1 of those in an upstairs closet in my house at the time. My buddy managed to get hold of a few seeds of Northern Lights from a cali grower. This was when it was the very best and famous strain first come out. We grew the 3 that popped and when bloom time came around , it was usually me that would have to manually go and unplug the light. Every night at 8 oclock. Lol 8 because it was easy to remember. But yeah every night for I think for like 70 some days. I was maybe 18 yrs old. Lol that was my introduction to growing indoors, illegal hahaha. Been doing ut ever since. Btw leds were a game changer. Alot of ,I believe, toadys growers ,, wouldn't be growing if wasnt for leds. That was always a big deterrent. Peace😂

[@Whisperhollow]

Wouldn't be growing indoors without AC infinity. Outdoor, plant in July to keep it small. Hide it in between tomatoes. Cover with light shade cloth.

[@samchapple6363]

The non dramatic start of LED vs our old HID ballasts, the lights igniting 😮

[@OgLtBlazer556]

I want to know when a company is going to come out with a light where the outer ring of diodes are actually brighter so that you don’t have a hotspot in the center and you have even par distribution even out to the edge.

[@mikemiller209]

spider farmer does on two sides

[@Growbrojay]

I miss the days of adjust a wings lol, man those were the days 2001 to 2006 💪..

[@anthonyrafferty8594]

I bought my light first and it was a mars-hydro tsl2000 but then I got my A.C. Infinity stuff, the controller, and the inline and clip-on fans but then I had to get the aci adapter for my light to hook up to the controller and I am so grateful for that. Next I need to get an ac tent because my controller juat hangs there right now.😂 But I'm getting there.

[@bennybenz.]

How much that Ac Infinity package cost you bro? I'm trying to do the same thing as you and can only purchase things when I got the extra loot and it's hard to get fully started all at once with the lights, inline fans/exhaust, soil, nutes, tent, seeds, pots, fans, ect..! And to get that AC package would be dope to get for my setup but don't know if able to afford at the moment. I need to upgrade lighting as well and that would be a good start for me and oh yeah I still need to get a tent bc I've just been growing out of my closet the last few years but any and all help would be greatly appreciated my friend so I can find out a ballpark figure I need to reach to start getting my AC Infinity gear! Happy belated 420 brother and I hope to hear back as I'm trying to get everything sorted out for this year still. Got my Infants I'm babying until there good and nice enough to go outside and only gotta Mars hydro 1000 for Inside and a ghetto rigged inline exhaust system which I'd love to replace with the AC INFINITY inlines and someother things but I'm just curious what that costed you if you don't mind so I can have something to shoot for my fellow gromie!!! I hope you have a good rest of your weekend Sir! Happy toking...💯🙂🤙✌️

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

At 28:57 you want quality extension cords that cost a lot more because the wires thicker you want the outlets that you have that you plug into have a higher quality wires in them as well so that it can take more and it's a GFI as well take all that into account cuz you're going to be using a lot more wattage

[@barbwire5bh294]

Oh Yes! LOL I have my smart plugged for humidifier even does a routine. TY oh and that Stash Blend has my colas dense and thick, big change from my 1st grow

[@magnumopus9631]

i feel sunondemand the new plasma grow light,does 10x10 close's to sun we came in a grow light,maybe someday will de-throne leds, like leds did to HID

[@nastytechniquez9685]

In Asia they’ve got the massive tech facilities for manufacturing these diodes. I doubt there’s a lot of woman and children doing anything in this industry. For example almost all the silicone chips in the world are made in Taiwan. They’ve got massive factories making cpu/gpu chips there and I wouldn’t be shocked to hear that diodes are in a similar boat

[@dannyarmata8878]

In my 4x8 tent the kinda modern blurple led side does better in veg vs modern mars hydro led side...same wattage

[@kennethrknox162]

What is up my growmie bros 😎

[@Dino_Hunter_420]

All am gonna say Japan Expo 85 cherry tomato shrub grown into 12ft tomato tree Atmospheric pressure change

[@mikemiller209]

I remember buying 400w metal halide 30 years ago and they were $1300.00 ... the ballasts weighed about 35 lbs

[@bovineexcrement8635]

you can get that 400w NOS for less than $100 including back up lamps.

[@Oldguy513]

Oohhhh yeah

[@bovineexcrement8635]

hid keeps my babies warm,,

[@RedPillGrower]

I love my Bridgelux diodes, American made. Which is wild because they are in a Spiderfarmer light, lol. I try to buy American made products where I can and when it makes sense. I mean HLG has Samsung diodes, lol.

[@VTDIRTDEMON]

That’s how they busted most people around here was the power company reporting huge power bill spikes!

[@ohmimprovement5767]

I have a Canadian brand light. GML. But, yeah the parts are made somewhere else I'm sure lol

[@MikeyGreen710]

GO GO GADGET GRO TENT

[@_EZ710_]

If you can afford the bitnof extra hest from quantum boards the diy options from hlg are pretty damn cheap like 35 bucks a board

[@5clyde]

Yo yo!!

[@johnkehoe8368]

bridgelux where used in marshydro

[@erickoechling9307]

Still are in the FCE series

[@johnkehoe8368]

@@erickoechling9307 ya i have ts600 still with them they work great for the cost of my light lol

[@Faviator42024]

We are in the new year of more than advanced technology, especially for us growers... we have advanced so much 2025, not 1995...

[@jamesgranberry7086]

Safety tip Number #1….Tie your shoes, never know when you may have to our run someone with a hoodie….🧐

[@drewamasterpiece5268]

Spider farmer and Mars hydro are NOT budget lights. Medic grow are budget lights as I got my 1000 watt ez 8 for $470 o.t.d. Samsung diodes ta'boot!

[@Handovgod]

Anyone know the name of the song these guys play at the beginning of their streams sometimes it has the lyrics "watch the sunrise while in my ride smokin drugs" like a chill rap song

[@Handovgod]

"this is who we be and that is why we smoke chillin all night long until the break of dawn watch the sunrise while in my ride smokin drugs" cant find it lol

[@Diranar851]

Cree Led is an USA Company.

[@ivanvanogre-nd1sw]

Best light for one plant? One Plant, One Light, That Is The Question! The right weed, the right light, the right setup...

[@hammrhed6861]

Vipar Spectra 1500 pro, plenty for a 2x2 at 150 watts . I also run one a 32"x32" and have no complaints. The electricity rates here are VERY high.

[@ivanvanogre-nd1sw]

Hi Hammrhed, I love the sound of 150 watts. Our electricity is free but they measure everything now so I have to maintain a low profile. I'm thinking Sour Diesel or some other deep Indica. Low risers seem like the quiet way. Vipar Spectra 1500 Pro.

[@ivanvanogre-nd1sw]

Vipar Spectra 1500 Pro. ($110, Good Deal!)

[@Garage_Grower]

Grand master led are in British Columbia

[@brianfavaron4782]

They sell led grow lights at Wal-Mart - harbor freight and home depot now. Not the most powerful but they are cost efficient for people who don't have the financial resources to buy higher wattage lights to put it simply people do what they can afford to do 50 yrs ago some of us used 100 watt incandescent bulbs and liked it lmmfao. You young people are living in the golden age of herb while people my age on the way out survived the dark ages of prohibition .

[@samchapple6363]

And a innovative idea is auto rotating turntables for full light exposure, sorry screeners

[@JG-ej4sv]

Spider farmer se 7000 drivers suck . Bought 2 at same time ran for 1 year at 80 % both driver failed a month apart. Spider farmer replaced one for free the other was 105 bucks they need to go back to meanwell drivers the sf4000 got years on it still going.

[@jacobdecker7994]

Bridge locks is American made

[@brianfavaron4782]

✌

[@YoungJester.]

🤘😎👍

[@MikeyGreen710]

THE PHONE AND COMPUTERS ALREADY HAVE AN APP THAT CAN DIAGNOSE ILLNESSES IN THE PLANTS AND TELLS YOU HOW TO FIX IT

[@cshortlife9179]

Lights need to be self levelling and have motorized hangers that can be app controlled and Quantum sensor controlled.

[@BrianM-44041]

Or you could use a cheap pulley lol

[@MrBobbit666]

skynet?

[@pugglesprindle2698]

Can’t run high humidity with cheap lights. Moisture breaks em.

[@untrainedastronaut]

👊😎👨‍🚀

[@smokeyams8636]

I have my old 600hps Sunlight Supply with tempered glass hood. I tried digital Ballast and it would cut off for no reason. My original loud magnet Ballast is bulletproof 🤣 Now I have 2 HLG 350R Diablos. Best investment I ever made! If you know......you know!! Great show!!🎉

[@jacobdecker7994]

It's a smaller company

[@juwanndunlap]

Yeah I got a AI coming too It's called the 01 light You should look it up I'm gonna use it to grow

[@miketurenne7204]

My light is Canadian with the same diodes as other lights but way more of them. So my light is bigger just saying.

[@napoleonsmith7793]

Plasma. 3500 dollars. Its a steal. Can touch the metal shroud over light and OT WONT BURN YOU.

[@cyberdyne9480]

?

[@undergroundish3135]

Plasma is still too expensive to be practical for home use. Most of the LED lights are cool to touch at first anyway lol

[@aaronwoodley9624]

🤟🤟🤟🤙🤙🤙🥏🥏🥏

[@93deeluxxx34]

The Vulcan Magma topped the ChilLed Growcraft ultra as well. I like ChilLed too, still using a couple of their lights today. Including the 2024 Growcraft 💪🏻

[@OMurchu420]

I have a light of cre.science (the german company). I have the Slim Square with cSpec enhanced. Lovin them

[@christophergomez2584]

Samsung is Korean not Chinese

[@livingsun1234]

Bruh samsung is from Korea and Korea is a developed nation with a top 10 economy, we aint china hahaha 😆

[@Ryan-gv7gy]

Guys a watt is a watt. Stoner’s shouldn’t talk technically.