The Evolution of Minbari Ships | Babylon 5 Ships

[@Geoffrey___]

Nice intro! 👍 The Earth-Minbari War is a great story. Just wanted to stop by and say this was a good idea for a video

[@cholizo]

I remember seeing those cruisers from the Valen era on screen for the first time and being awestruck at just how bad ass they looked. Like a shark flying through space. They completely fit the Minbari at the time, warlike and prone to infighting until Valen.

[@sabrekai8706]

yeah, definitely a shark. The later War Cruisers looked to me like Angelfish. Elegant design but not nearly as intimidating.

[@randybaumery-u5r]

Almost half the ships were aquatic looking in that series.

[@jaredrobinson7071]

I love the B5 content.

[@Dan-vo7vc]

I really like the verticality of their and the Bree ships. You don't see that much in other settings.

[@jamesaron1967]

Always loved it myself.

[@rogueguru2509]

Agreed. In Homeworld I adored the Kushan Mothership for this reason, I always wanted their Ships to follow that Aesthetic, but only the Stealth Ship shared that design style sadly.

[@arioch2112]

A prototype Romulan Warbird was more Brakiri like in style from The Art of Star Trek, I always wondered what might have been. Loved the looks of the Sharlin and other fish looking ships.

[@rogueguru2509]

@@arioch2112 oh yeah I remember that concept art! You are right it definitely shares the aesthetic.

[@congnghequansuvn474]

As for their slowness in adapting and building new ships, Earth can catch up with the Minbari after just few dozens years

[@manemperorofmankind8119]

I do believe that’s exactly what happened

[@JH24821]

Earth did with the Warlock Cruiser, but it was stated in Crusade production of these ships was slow.

[@tinamoul]

Cool video, but isn't the White Star part of the Minbari fleet. It was built by Minbari, at Minbari ship yards and yes it served as the Anal Shok fleet, but it is still a Minbari built and maintained ship

[@jchea1764]

Anla , not Anal 😅

[@shanenolan5625]

Yes it was built by at the shipyards. And for the rangers, but I believe they were religious cast rather than the minority government specifically. , but think of it like a shipyard building a vessel for an allied government. It seems like the white stars were a covert project for a long time ,. I always thought they were built mostly on the ground and finished in space. I think he left them out because they were not under the command of the grey council, and if memory serves back in the first shadow war, their was sn issue with the government and valen , used the rangers as an independent force and eventually the government supported him , and the council was formed afterwards but the rangers remained independent, but founded by the religious cast and not the federal government. I believe. And in b5 , the rangers act as an independent institution. And develop into the isa .

[@DJRonnieG]

@@jchea1764 please, not another anal-shot! Ouch!

[@vegaobscurax23]

@@jchea1764 ROFL

[@tinamoul]

@@jchea1764 The typo sure makes for an interesting name for the rangers. 😂

[@MOrab46019]

Great job.

[@chrisortega7521]

Gotta say the White Star is not only an elegant and beautiful ship, but it's practical too. Hands down, I think it's my favorite Sci-Fi ship design (sorry Rocinante)

[@AndrewJamesWilliams]

The Minbari prefer to fight at range due to the fact that there crystal armour is so optimised to defend against Shadow bosers - to the point that it takes three direct hits from a Shadow battlecrab to a Sharlin to destroy it - that it's actually vulnerable to other weapons types especially ones that have a strong kinetic impact like the plasma cannons used by the Earth Alliance hence why the Grey Council's ship the Valen'tha was so badly hurt by just two hits from the Prometheus heavy plasma cannon. Hits that left her drifting and burning as well as causing major internal damage to the vessel which led to Dukhat's death.

[@dareka9425]

I never knew the Minbari warriors were impressed by the Nova class. The Novas looks awesome but we always see them getting ripped apart throughout the series.

[@Tonydjjokerit]

They are very potent ships!

[@vortega472]

Oh we Minbari - We're so advanced - we're so much more civilized than the lesser younger races. About our technology that came from the Vorlons and we didn't invent ourselves *ahem* Oh we Minbari - We're so advanced - we're so much more civilized than the lesser younger races.

[@Cobra1597]

I don’t think that the Vorlons have the Minbari hyperspace travel technology. The Vorlons first contact the Minbari during that first Shadow war on Babylon 4, along with Valen/Sinclair. By that point, the Minbari had already been fighting the Shadows for some time and had a space station headquarters that, when destroyed by the Shadows, Babylon 4 replaced. To be honest, I don’t think it is ever said what technology, if any, was given to the Minbari by the Vorlons at the time of the first Shadow war. Later on, we know they give them bio-organic hulls, some weapons tech, and improved/miniaturized hyperdrive tech, all part of the Whitestars.

[@randybaumery-u5r]

That tri wing fighter looks like Chig fighter. Space Above and Beyond.

[@alanmike6883]

Minbari ships do scream sleek and beautiful but deadly. Until the valen class or flying brick seen in legend of the rangers

[@peterzimmerman1114]

The flying brick was a human ship with some minbari tech combined... And somehow Garibaldi's company was involved.. Because Delen wanted it. Not sure how that makes sense since the Company Garibaldi took over, despite its size and wealth seemed to be mostly focused on medical and other types of industry not really related to ship building?

[@shanenolan5625]

It seems like the sharlin class cruiser was like the white star I the second shadow war . Or the technology development just after the second shadow war . Like the vorlons gave technology that took generations to fully exploit and again in the second war . Like with the victory class , the database gave them weapons they lacked the engineering comprehension to build yet and engine technology he mimbari had the vorlon date from the white star around 20 years or more before the valen class and quantum jump engines

[@tinhead1112]

To be honest, I like the Terran Star Fury fighter. It is one of the most realistic small attack craft in the whole SciFi genre.

[@vortega472]

Sorry, another call out - considering the Minbari were so superior to the humans - why did they allow the last existing Dilgar - Jha'dur, also known as Deathwalker, into their ranks to develop weapons against the human. I'm pretty sure the Minbari knew about the Dilgar aggression. How could they not know about the war and how the Earth Alliance intervened? Hypocrites all the way.

[@angelphoenix7784]

The question I have is, why didn't the Vorlon help the humans to become more advanced. They helped the Minbari. I get it was for story purposes. Just something that came to mind watching this video.

[@sabrekai8706]

Given that upgrading them would have been a long long process, as Earth had not yet reached space or even major industrialization by the time of the first Shadow war, I suspect it was a matter of do the best you can with the best raw materials at your disposal.

[@maxrander0101]

they would of seen our races flaws and that we were prone to fight among our selves even while threats to the entire race were present for an example the colonies were still at odds with earth itself during the Minbari war they still refused to put aside issues for the greater good this would be seen throughout our races history and this lack of any unity would lead an advanced race with worries we would become a greater evil than the shadows if given the tech to beat them we also see this with the way in the show that they take any and all tech they find without regard to its use and safety

[@beauxr.benoit1374]

They were too young and were always too agressive. Why do you think no one out there doesn't wants to visit us now? It is either that, we are alone, or the story in the Bible is real and we are all the same age and no one has the ability to visit anyone else.

[@manwiththeredface7821]

Look at imperial Japan for a cautionary tale. The speed with which their tech caught up to the first world powers was unprecedented in history. Within ONE generation they transformed from being just another soon to be conquered poor colony to a new rival to the conquerors. But their belief system, their way of thinking was still the same from centuries before because you can't rush things like the French Revolution and the enlightment. Japan had 20th century hardware but 15th century software. We now all know that's not a good match, just look at Nanking or Unit 731 (that's on par with the holocaust).

[@adamhellenberg1810]

what about the white star? was that not a Minbair ship?

[@dennisdean7366]

John Sheridan is able to defeat a Sharlin Class War Cruiser Called the Drala-Fa (Minbari word for the Blac Star).

[@かたわれ時-e7x]

So who copied who, Ender's Game humans or Babylon 5 Minbari?

[@allnamesaretakenful]

The Earth-Minbari War wasn't even close to fair because the Minbari were gifted advanced technology by the Vorlons.

[@-JA-]

👍❤

[@thelazy0ne]

😁👍

[@shanenolan5625]

Sweet 😋

[@UtopianBroadcast1]

Thank you 😊

[@shanenolan5625]

@@UtopianBroadcast1 your welcome. Great video BTW

[@poubelle_blanche]

Cool man.

[@saliston]

So basically their ships have hardly changed in a thousand years. In two decades earth ships will be much more advanced.

[@sabrekai8706]

WE like to kill each other and are always coming up with new and improved ways. Consider Aviation. In 4 days, it will be the 119th anniversary of the first heavier than air flight in history. Look at just the changes from 1903 til 1918. Major advances due to war. Then look at 1918-1945. Again, slow development in peace, major ground breaking advances in War. Ditto, 1945-1953, Korea, 1953-1975, Viet Nam, and others. In All fields, not just aviation.

[@djhull6816]

@@sabrekai8706 So the Shadows were right?

[@sabrekai8706]

@@djhull6816 Neither of them were really right. Do what you are told and fight when we tell you is a pretty stupid way to advance a civilization or to serve evolution. The idea that evolution is served by letting the species kill to thin out the gene pool is fine if it's guys with swords, spears and bows, but once you get the tech into it, Elmer Fudd becomes just as good at thinning out the pool as the Conan the Barbarian types. Give a barely literate Soviet farm hand a T-34 and he can take out the best of them, who maybe had better equipment, more advanced but still had an (not quite as skilled) operator to make it work. Skill at using one piece of equipment does little to improve your intelligence or strength or any other trait. You could be the dumbest goof in the platoon but if you were a good shot with your 98K or your Moisin Nagant, you survived to go home and pop out little ones. If you married some chick with amazing hooters and next to no brains, how was evolution served?

[@evanboll4651]

@@sabrekai8706 Seems logical. Arguments like this are why I prefer the Prime Directive from Star Trek when it comes to older civilizations interacting with younger ones.

[@sabrekai8706]

@@evanboll4651 Yeah, the Prime Directive makes a lot of sense. I wonder if all those UFOs over the years were just incompetent and got seen while following their version of the PD. God knows they'd be looking at us as being primitive. If the best we can do is pollute our planet, and kill off anyone we don't like, no way in hell they'd want to invite us to join an interstellar group.

[@mattmmilli8287]

Minbari would be a bunch of useless space hippies without the vorlons help it sounds

[@Okkusen]

The bone head's