Apologies but a few days after this video was published a third party copyright claim company did a manual claim against this video. My use of the content is clearly within Fair Use, but they denied my dispute knowing I won't likely take them to court for such a small amount of money. I was forced to trim to sections from the video rather then allow them to claim my original content. These are the two missing sections: 3:58 Why the change of heart then? In the time after the events in the slow zone in season 3, the crew of the Roci agreed to transport Clarissa back to Earth to stand trial for her crimes. It’s a six-month trip, and they basically put her in a cabin, put a cuff on her leg that prevented her from going to places on the ship that they didn’t want her to have access to, and they more or less ignored her. The conversation in the excerpt I opened the video with is from the last chapter of book three, and in that we learn that Amos takes an interest in her in those last five weeks. They become friends while working together in Amos’ shop, but we never actually see their time together. We don’t see that in the books or the TV show. 6:52 Not from a lack of trying things go pear-shaped with her plan. She’s captured. She gets an opportunity to help on the Behemoth, and she has a change of heart. She uses her mods, she takes out Ashford, and deactivates the behemoth’s comm laser and pretty much saves everyone.
@Alpinwolf53 жыл бұрын
...edited out again? Or unfinished?
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
@@Alpinwolf5 not sure what you mean. KZbin studio has an option to trim the claimed content out. You can tell pretty clearly where that happened at the timestamps, but what else am I supposed to do?
@Alpinwolf53 жыл бұрын
@@PetePeppers1 - What I mean is that your pinned comment ends with "These are the two missing sections:" ...literally that's all. It doesn't say "Read More" either. If you put time-stamps or other information after that quoted phrase, I can't see it. If I knew how to share a screenshot with you I would. Maybe there's a problem with my view? I don't know. When I first watched, I noticed one cut, but I must have blinked past the other. It's not a big deal - it's just that the pinned comment appears unfinished. Great video, tho - loved the insight on these characters, since I haven't read the books yet. Thanks!
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
@@Alpinwolf5 ahh, I see what you're saying. Not sure why the whole post isn't there. I just grabbed them from doc and added them. Thanks for the heads-up. This has been super annoying because the first one is really important.
@Alpinwolf53 жыл бұрын
@@PetePeppers1 - AH, cheers, I see it now! Thanks again!
@NaumRusomarov3 жыл бұрын
The actor who portrays Amos in the tv show has done an amazing work.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
He puts a lot into it. Very committed to the role.
@cantdestroyher72453 жыл бұрын
It’s always something special when the actor is really into the role
@widget36723 жыл бұрын
Wes Chatham puts so much love into the role. He read the books and made it clear from the start that he wanted to be Amos and goddammit he plays him beautifully. I couldn't think of a better actor to play him. If anyone deserves his role, its him.
@dib00183 жыл бұрын
I really liked him and Thomas Jane's character.
@aidenchen12753 жыл бұрын
@@dib0018 Thomas Jane got promoted to the director after Miller😂
@nayandusoruth24683 жыл бұрын
Considering Amos's troubled backstory, the resulting survival instincts, the fact that he chooses to try and live like a good person could arguably make him the most noble character, as he recognises what he is, and through sheer force of will tries to move past that.
@srsgoblin3 жыл бұрын
It might be from a video game but its profound to me. Paathurnax, a dragon from Elder Scrolls, says, "what is better, to be born good or to overcome one's evil nature through great effort?" Always stuck with me. Amos is kind of the living embodiment of that.
@zaynevanday1423 жыл бұрын
@@srsgoblin Amos was never Evil and if you think he is you missed the Mark completely
@MichaelEverheartt3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@MyKharli3 жыл бұрын
@@zaynevanday142 I thought casey was alluding to how Amos had all the excuses to act ,in our context, badly but overcomes instincts honed from his abuse ?
@zaynevanday1423 жыл бұрын
@@MyKharli nope
@krystalgrant98773 жыл бұрын
I love Amos. He's like an AI trying every minute to be more human.
@XxXVideoVeiwerXxX3 жыл бұрын
he is the scifi trope without the trope
@CantankerousDave3 жыл бұрын
I think it was Naomi in the first book who said he latches on to certain people and uses them as an external, aftermarket conscience. He recognizes that he isn’t wired normally and takes steps to compensate. It’s why he was so eager to get back to his crew this season - he realized he was backsliding.
@internaut42572 жыл бұрын
@@CantankerousDave i think that exact way of putting it was in nemesis games, not leviathan wakes
@peterwuwei32973 жыл бұрын
I like Clarissa and her story of redemption. One scene from S3 where they rescue Prax's daughter showed really deep compassion that Amos had for Prax and may have been an aberration for someone who lacked empathy. I'm talking about the scene where Prax is about to shoot the doctor and Amos comes up to tell him, "You're not that guy." I believe that came from Amos knowing how it would tear Prax apart to kill him in cold blood. He spared Prax that turmoil by sending him away and then, giving the doctor his well deserved justice. That led to his most famous line, "I am that guy." Great emotional depth for a character like Amos.
@anatoldenevers23711 ай бұрын
Yeah, Amos knew that killing Strickland would be terrible for Prax, no matter how well deserved it was. And he knew that it would be absolutely nothing for him.
@shawnw.44403 жыл бұрын
Amos is my favorite character. How huge is it that he doesn't just unconsciously/subconsciously know he needs an external moral compass but he admitted it out loud. Through the seasons we see a lot of growth by Amos. Kudos to Wes for bringing so much understated nuance to the character and actually making me care about a 'killer'
@EvilBonsai3 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is where he stopped the plant doc from killing his daughter's doctor. Amos knew what that would do to him as a person, and knew he wouldn't be able to atone for it, to himself. Amos on the other hand had no issue at all with what needed to be done. Good life indeed.
@Razaiel3 жыл бұрын
Yes! That look on his face when the botanist said that Amos was his best friend in the whole world spoke volumes.
@TheBruces563 жыл бұрын
Not having read the books I assumed that Amos was the archetype of a "Warrior" and had some kind of military background. He was the "muscle" and guardian of the other crew members. I was surprised to learn that his background, aside from getting little love, consisted of being a victim or creating victims. I used to speak to groups of inmates that were within a year of release. I would always say something to the affect of "you guys may not be pillars of the community but you can pretend to be. Whether you are a cheat, thief or thug when you are presented with a situation on the outside ask yourself "what would a decent, law-abiding person do". Do this consistently and you will become that person. Some actually did that and changed the trajectory of their lives. This is what Amos is trying to do.
@Snowy123 Жыл бұрын
That's also a comment brought up in the books that people see Amos record and think his the muscle but acutally it's fucking smart his the ship's engineer, that's literally rocket science there's a scene where he did complex calculations in his head faster than anyone in the crew.
@SirCharles123573 жыл бұрын
Good job! You're the first one I've seen that connects Amos's lack of fear to the story Peaches tells about monsters. And Amos's response, "I need to get back to my crew immediately after."
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
She never actually told him the poem in the books. It's a mantra that she tells herself, but she never talks about it with him.
@eyesofstatic96413 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that part a lot! Shows he wants to do the right thing and an understanding of himself.
@Nitzah3 жыл бұрын
My favorite moments was when Eric asked Clarissa "Why does he call you Peaches?" And she says "I don't know." which to me sums up Amos at least in terms of himself to other people. They don't get all the way he sees the world/general thought proccess but just kinda roll with it because it's well.. Amos.
@kman18932 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure its a reference to a peach melba drink, since clarissa used to call herself melba
@296jacqi3 жыл бұрын
I like the way they work together as a “tribe of two” because they each represent what a lot of us are feeling at our lowest points - minus the murdering. They’re a good metaphor for those who come from lives of apparent privilege yet loneliness, and those who come from a background where we feel we weren’t given opportunities as kids, but perhaps had “that one person who never gives up” on us. Both struggle to find that inner good person, and fight off their demons. They’re not irredeemable people, and perhaps neither are we.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Really nice exploration of this in tonight's episode.
@eyesofstatic96413 жыл бұрын
I really liked how he put that. "A tribe of two" and at the end when Peaches was talking about their tribe growing with Amos childhood friend.
@julius-stark3 жыл бұрын
Your Expanse content is so good I have seen other Expanse content creators reference you so you know you're doing it right.
@jezebulls3 жыл бұрын
Pete is the best!
@eyesofstatic96413 жыл бұрын
What other channels do you follow that cover the expanse?
@julius-stark3 жыл бұрын
@@eyesofstatic9641 Geekin' with James Hancock , Generation Films and Alt Shift X, but Pete's are the most in-depth.
@eyesofstatic96413 жыл бұрын
@@julius-stark nice I'll check em out. I'm subbed to GenFilms already! Good stuff. Thanks
@Redhand19493 жыл бұрын
Your videos do enhance my enjoyment of the series. Thanks!
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
One of the top character combos in the Expanse series. I like how they both have things to offer the other, and they also know what going in the wrong direction looks like. Let me know if you have any questions, and ideas for other bonus videos.
@Syisulis3 жыл бұрын
I'm hooked great written
@davidpeganyee3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Love you’re work pete
@kamheed3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos dude. Must watch for me
@whisperingegg73393 жыл бұрын
I have questions but I think they're spoilers.
@wordseater3 жыл бұрын
I would really love a video about Holden's evolution, from the idealistic, impulsive young man of seaon one, to where he is now. I think many people misunderstand or underestimate his character, but he's actually extremely interesting and, if you really think about it, the one who changes and evolves the most of all the characters (which is, to me, a sign of a very well written and realistic character). For those of us who read the books, it's maybe easier to understand him, because a big part of the story is told from his pov, but on the show he's often overlooked because all the supporting characters are absolutely phenomenal and they often have the best punch lines (Amos and Drummer, especially).
@andrejspecht82173 жыл бұрын
I always looked at them as the caring relationship between two individuals, who knew, how fast they could snuff such a fragile thing like human life from another at any moment. But they always chose not to do it. Both have to keep their respective monsters in check, they had a common sense of understanding.
@benjaminlamptey18673 жыл бұрын
I feel like we didn't get to savour Clarissa's transformation enough. We saw her in season 3, and then for most of season 4 she we didn't. All of a sudden she's this new person in season 5. I didn't even realize it was her until someone said her name, then it kinda came together. One of the few, if not the only mistake the show made. And even then it doesn't really spoil the experience, just removes a tiny bit of the emotional edge.
@Peanutdenver3 жыл бұрын
Being exposed to violence on a regular basis changes a person. It no longer shocks you when caught in the moment and that alone gives clarity to a person. Combat does this, but there is a price to pay on your psyche, a price you pay for the rest of your life. Wes does a good job of expressing the look, the lack of emotion and thought process in his character Amos.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he puts a lot of effort into getting the character right. It comes out in every interview I've read with him talking about the character.
@robertbabcock20893 жыл бұрын
Well done, Pete! I agree that Amos & Clarissa are fascinating characters that reflect great writing and acting.
@katmatally3 жыл бұрын
12:30 - 13:00 is why I have always thought of Amos as kind of a Zen warrior. No attachments, no ego, etc. As the series moves forward we see Amos forming attachments and personal morality. I think he is the most dynamic character, novelistically speaking.
@wordseater3 жыл бұрын
As Amos said to Alex, there are three kind of people: bad ones, ones you follow and ones you need to protect. I think he sees Clarissa as someone he needs to protect. Not like he needed to protect Anna (someone pure and righteous), but as someone really broken that he hopes it's possible to repair. In a way, Clarissa represents that redeemable part of him that he considers lost forever, but that maybe she can still somehow get back. In the books she's a lot more fragile (phisically and mentally) than in the show, so it's a lot clearer (to me, at least) where they stand.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Nadine Nicole does a pretty good job, but they can't really depict her the same way with a healthy actor. I always picture her wasting away.
@robertperrotto8703 жыл бұрын
9:07 absolute classic interaction between Amos and Avasarela, the look on Bobbi's face is priceless
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Great moment.
@margaretwordnerd52104 ай бұрын
Odd thing is, when he said that I didn't wonder about a spicy secret. I guessed what it was. Wes Chatham is VERY good at conveying subtle, mostly suppressed feelings in ways that creep through the mind and haunt us.
@davidbecquer36243 жыл бұрын
"She broke the Roci once" Holden said "And she's been trying to fix her ever since."
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
That's a good one.
@Briandnlo43 жыл бұрын
Pete, you dropped this video at a really opportune time. I’d JUST finished listening to the Space The Nation podcast (former hosts of The Churn), which is one (along with your videos) of a VERY few pieces of Expanse content I follow. They’re three weeks behind, just recapped 506, and were discussing this exact subject. Their take was that Amos sees Clarissa is capable of acting like Amos, despite having a more conventional and nuanced understanding of right vs. wrong than Amos does. They’re similar enough to be sympatico, and the differences between them are things they can learn from each other, while watching out to make sure they don’t get out of hand.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they can get a lot from each other, but neither is the guiding light. They make a great team.
@Briandnlo43 жыл бұрын
@@PetePeppers1 Yeah, they’ve got that “It takes one to know one” kind of relationship, but coming from exact opposite perspectives, from which they can watch each other’s blind spots.
@yensid42943 жыл бұрын
They're both in the same 12 step program, one's just been sober a little longer lol
@Izznogood763 жыл бұрын
they are the best combo so far, Ashford and Drummer are a close second
@russellmarra85202 жыл бұрын
while I understand the whole "kill your darlings" thing, they should not have killed Ashford. The only thing I can think of to justify it is that in the book he was kind of a jerk, and the series had to eventually come back around to the books.
@rrraraviyou3 жыл бұрын
Greatest show on earth. Great review. Voicing of review is spot on too.
@worldpeace18223 жыл бұрын
Or in space ...
@cathalodiubhain57393 жыл бұрын
Of any genre, characters, plots. nothing comes near to it..
@TheWolfsnack3 жыл бұрын
...last time I got here this early, Epstein was accelerating through Uranus....
@comicsgatekeeper97463 жыл бұрын
In futurama they got sick of the joke and renamed it urectum
@Dizzyruptor3 жыл бұрын
"Epstein was accelerating through whose anus?" ftfy
@zaynevanday1423 жыл бұрын
@National Socialism ha ha ha tin foil hat time pmsl
@steriopticon26873 жыл бұрын
@National Socialism The one thing humans do that is unique to them is conspire.
@steriopticon26873 жыл бұрын
@National Socialism My metaphor was less metaphorical than your metaphor.
@benjaminlamptey18673 жыл бұрын
Amos and Clarissa's friendship is gold. I hope no one spoils it by shipping them.
@zaynevanday1423 жыл бұрын
When peaches tells Amos her poem she actually without knowing it is calling Amos a monster just go back and watch it again
@IDKman5553 жыл бұрын
I love Amos, one of the best characters to grace the screen, any screen. He's just fun to have around and interesting to see his interactions.
@Snowy123 Жыл бұрын
Amos is a character with such depth and Wes did a great job in loving the source material and bringing the nuanced character out on screen. Even the writers said they didn't imagine Wes as what Amos would look like but they love how he brought the character to the screen.
@jbborg3 жыл бұрын
Way to go Pete. Found you a short while ago and I am really enjoying your narrative.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome
@blex90003 жыл бұрын
Nice job Pete! I really like when you cite book passages and highlight differences between books and the show. Keep doing that as much as possible because that’s the key point that makes this the best content on the expanse!
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them
@CraigPaschang3 жыл бұрын
Excellent insights. I’d forgotten Amos’s line about not feeling fear.
@calijoe10743 жыл бұрын
If I remember from the books, specifically the novella that explains Naomi and Amos' relationship, Amos knows that he is broken and he uses Naomi as his "touchstone" for guidance on how a decent person behaves. Naomi, on her part is trying to make amends for her unwitting part in one of Marcos' earlier terror attacks, killing innocent bystanders - the issue that drove Naomi from their family.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
That's the overview of this period of time for the crew. Amos and Naomi both have to confront their past.
@nolongeramused81353 жыл бұрын
The big question is "Will Chrissy be jealous?"
@CefiroGuy33 жыл бұрын
She will -_- And we both know, Chrisjen being jealous is a wrath that the universe is not prepared for 🤣🤣😭😭
@starwarfan83422 жыл бұрын
Don't call her that. She's a member of parliament, not Amos's favorite stripper.
@nolongeramused81352 жыл бұрын
@@starwarfan8342 She can be both.
@russellmarra85202 жыл бұрын
@@starwarfan8342 she could be both.
@johnknirr75083 жыл бұрын
Amos is a sociopath. Sociopaths are made not born. Amos became a sociopath at 5 yrs old when he decided to stop feeling as a way to survive his abuse. The thing is....Amos knows he is a sociopath; he knows he is different from others and he wants to do better by people now. That's why he clings to people with moral a compass. Naomi, Holden, and even Alex provide the "right thing to do" motive that Amos lacks. What is significant in the season....is that Amos is on is own. He is desperately trying to do the right thing. When he confronted the survivalist, he tried to make a fair trade. He left the old man alone in the woods and didn't steal all of his possessions. Its a big step for him to be at least TRYING to have empathy for others, rather than just looking out for himself only. Amos connects with "Peaches," because by saving her, he has hope to save himself.
@zaynevanday1423 жыл бұрын
Amos is the Ultimate Survivalist he knows what’s needed to be done and does it no hesitation, he my Favourite character
@shawnjohnston19862 жыл бұрын
Love these characters! Like to see them together on the Rock for the rest of the show….great chemistry… love that look on Holden’s face when Amos brought her aboard!
@chriscostello1173 жыл бұрын
The efforts made are beyond appreciated my friend. Thank you
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@AK_Vortex3 жыл бұрын
I think it's amazing how the writers really got so granular with each of the personalities, created their backstories and beyond the main plot lines, really integrated these characters into the plot as well as each other. Everything is so dynamic about them whether we're talking an individual episode, an entire season or the first six books. The TV adaptation is the best I've seen yet when comparing to so many other shows & books. It blows away the TV adaptation of shows like GoT, Hunger Games, Harry Potter, LotR, Hobbit or the Divergent Series to name a few. And some of these shows had massive budgets comparatively. I feel this series should set the bench mark for all series in the future and if it does, say bye bye to Star Trek and most of the Star Wars junk that has been so very recently thrown at us. (Mandalorian not withstanding)
@steviewilliams71313 жыл бұрын
I love Amos and 🍑 x 2 relationship. I think Amos and peaches are diametrically different. They have both done some things that“ Good people don’t do.“ One line of dialogue that was NOT in the books that I think really summarizes their relationship is when. * spoiler alert 🚨 Amos says, “You can lead a good life without being a good person.” His main moral issue in life is the fact that he doesn’t feel bad about the stuff he does and he’s not afraid. That, I think is his biggest demon as far as his personality goes . He needs people like Holden and Naiomi to be his moral compass. That’s why I love to dude as a character, because even though bad things that happened to him who made him who he is. He still trying to become a better person by following the example of others if he can’t figure it out himself; which shows intelligence and he wants to be a good person.
@ZakhadWOW3 жыл бұрын
you typed this on your phone, didnt you.. because there are soe BIZARRE words on there.. Like who the heck is Peter? LOL
@steviewilliams71313 жыл бұрын
@@ZakhadWOW hey haha sorry, worse than that I dictated it into my phone. Hold ok let me edit it again
@speculativefuture95683 жыл бұрын
Amos, so complex but at the same time not. Yet because of that, so efficient in language, attitude and his decisions. A breath of fresh air in the show and Sci-fi world.
@TheGambaGeek3 жыл бұрын
I'm baffled by some mean comments here. I'm loving your The Expanse content and I'm very grateful for your videos. Watching them it's like discussing the series with a friend. Really well done, please keep posting
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I'm going to try to push out a lot videos over the next two weeks, and comments like these help to keep me motivated.
@sunflower33843 жыл бұрын
i was watching season 5 and have no idea who she was then searched for a recap and coincidently found this video when you uploaded
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
That's service.
@JWolff-md3ij3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the clarity. Didn't remember her character, so I've been in a sense in the dark about how she s suddenly a major focus in the series. You fixed that.
@Jwine32573 жыл бұрын
I think a good example of Amos always searching for that moral compass is when he was approached at the docks after reminiscing about his time with Lydia there. You see in the previous episode that he went out of his way to make a fight happen on the shuttle. Wanted to make sure he can finish the fight when it started by getting it to go down in the bathrooms where there aren’t cameras - tells the guy he didn’t stop them from robbing his cabinmates for “them” - actually stopped them to get into a fight for himself. Now here we are back at the docks where a fight he would love to have is just about to walk up on him. Instead of welcoming it, he tells them no. Now to the audience, it looks like he is just intimidating them down like a badass - which he is but what is truly happening is him saying no to this fight that he would love to have after reconsidering a conversation from Lydia. Love this show
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
The scene on the shuttle to Earth was a lot more interesting in the books. It's in the first couple of chapters in his POV and he struggling to understand what's going on with what he's feeling about Lydia's death. He thinks he might be getting sick, and then hears her voice telling him he's just sad. He picks the fight more or less to work through it as he gets relief from the violence. When he avoids the fight later it struck me as he was feeling better knowing that she died of natural causes and had a somewhat decent life at the end.
@Jwine32573 жыл бұрын
@@PetePeppers1 ah there you go didn’t think of that another good reason for any tv fan of this show to read the books. They just compliments things happening in the show so well
@Syisulis3 жыл бұрын
Wow you read my mind i was hopping you make a video of this. Thanks
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Bonus.
@carltheyoda21557 ай бұрын
Great summation! This was in the top 3 of my favorite arcs of the series.
@artboymoy3 жыл бұрын
I like her redemption arc. It will be interesting to see who will be the new pilot for the Roci as the unfortunate departure of Cas Anvar. Even though Bull is piloting right now, he really doesn't have any feeling for Holden. I think having Clarissa become the new Roci pilot would really create some interesting character development for the cast. Amos put his trust in the crew and now it would be time for the Roci crew to put their trust in him. We know Clarissa can pilot, maybe not as well as Alex, or any military pilot but she wanted to take ownership of the the Razorback when Julie left, and JP said "do'n't be absurd" or something like that. Interesting times, these are...
@dominicklittle98283 жыл бұрын
I bet they will replace him with a new actor,. He’s too important to the story
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
I had been staying away from speculating because I thought they might not give Alex and end this season due to the timing of the allegations. I doubt they had a plan, but either way it kind of makes sense to use a known character like Clarissa or Bobbie. They could pull Bull back, but as you mentioned as he is now he wouldn't fill the same role as Alex. He's abrasive with Holden, and almost seems hostile towards Naomi.
@NeilsonBuntowa3 жыл бұрын
Personally I want clarissa or bobby to replace alex
@artboymoy3 жыл бұрын
@@dominicklittle9828 that is another possiblity...
@artboymoy3 жыл бұрын
@@PetePeppers1 Yeah, an offscreen transition would give Cas his full season with his character still intact.
@herrzimm3 жыл бұрын
Simply put: It proves Amos isn't a sociopath with no feelings towards others outside of his current crew and Clarissa isn't a spoiled brat that turned homicidal because things didn't go her way. They "work" together because they are flip sides of the same "unfeeling" coin. Basically that she makes Amos more human and he makes Clarissa more likeable.
@mikecarson86013 жыл бұрын
Amos did show a little fear (at least as much as he can) in Season 4. When he was blind, he did walk away from the colonists without a rain coat to protect him from death slugs. Seems a little suicidal. I love the interaction when Holden goes after him. It was a lovely addition to the Amos story.
@yensid42943 жыл бұрын
Yep, only time he was ever freaked out
@zaynevanday1423 жыл бұрын
@@yensid4294 can you blame him ? Lol
@tracymetherell87443 жыл бұрын
He had never experienced such a lack of control since he was five years old. He was completely undone by that.
@zaynevanday1423 жыл бұрын
@@tracymetherell8744 that’s ok family brought him back from it (Holden)
@zaynevanday1423 жыл бұрын
@@tracymetherell8744 nope still not afraid to take control with the only option he could see that was left to him death on his terms !
@jimgriffiths90712 жыл бұрын
Terrific overview!
@tanler79532 жыл бұрын
Not enough screen time for these two. Wonderful chemistry.
@facelesswoman69753 жыл бұрын
Great analysis of one of my favorite relationships on the show. I'm not necessarily shipping them as I think their bond may turn out to be more spiritual than romantic. They may both even be aromantic by nature and therefore won't go there.
@gnumel3 жыл бұрын
They are particularly dark, fitting and complex characters. And Wes Chatman portrayal of Amos is OH SO GOOD.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@rutwickgangurde32473 жыл бұрын
Amos is a great character. He's not defined, resolute, he's complex, he's black and white. And the actor Wes has done a fucking phenomenal job.
@stevevet36523 жыл бұрын
Two words - Great Writing. Taking nothing away from the realistic acting from the characters, the series was really well written.
@cathalodiubhain57393 жыл бұрын
Love the books, love the show and a great insight and explanation into a very strange relationship
@AmitDebnath093 жыл бұрын
This video actually cleared a lot of questions I had about them. Thanks and keep up the good work distilling the show and the series for folks like me who are not used to such a complex and nuanced sci-fi show.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful
@jghall003 жыл бұрын
Thanks! As someone who has watched the show since it begin airing (I'm waiting till the show is done for the books) the backstory and introspection was very helpful.
@JonMcMenamin7772 жыл бұрын
I've read all of the books and novellas. Wes Chatham has absolutely nailed it. Very relatable, I could make comments about events in the the later books but spoilers...
@djVOME3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.
@markpeavy40053 жыл бұрын
Great review that answered a lot of questions I had about that situation and with Amos! Thank you.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful.
@Esstron7163 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, helps to solidify understanding. Really hope they keep going after Season 6!!!
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@IchigoKurosaki103 жыл бұрын
Really like this video and the longer format, thanks a lot for the hard work.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
More coming over the next few weeks.
@mollylynch9183 жыл бұрын
This was a great video explaining both characters' history. I feel like I understand both of them a lot more now, especially Amos. I felt like some of the stuff about his childhood in the show was a little vague in the episode but you explained it here well so I understand why he is the way he is now. I can't wait to see what happens the rest of this season for Clarissa and Amos.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped.
@00DUCK3 жыл бұрын
I really like Amos' character as well as Peaches. I like seeing redemption stories and I think these two work well together.
@od39103 жыл бұрын
The way I see Amos calling her peaches could be to do with the dessert (though that seems slightly out of character who knows what's going on in Amos's mind half the time) but it could be more to do with giving her a new life. Amos took a new name and made a new life for himself. He sees himself in Clarissa. Amos also doesn't show affection much but I think the nickname is a sign of affection. A cute nickname for an enhanced killer. Maybe that's obvious or bullshit but part of the reason I like Amos is that he seems to be in his own world and doesn't see the need to explain himself. So we may never know the reason as if you asked him directly he'd most likely say something like "I like the name peaches". I love Amos so much he's my favourite next to Avasarala.
@dirtyfingers16233 жыл бұрын
Great work! Really enjoy your thorough explanation since I haven’t read any novels. Thanks!
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful
@Mor4me3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 👍🏽👍🏽✌🏽✌🏽 This helps a lot
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
No problem
@Kamn_exe3 жыл бұрын
Amos is a descendant of the Wire coming out of Baltimore
@kirstencorby84653 жыл бұрын
I think Wes Chatham has made that comment himself.
@bartolomeestebanmurillo44593 жыл бұрын
I like to think he's McNulty's descendant.
@kirstencorby84653 жыл бұрын
@@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459 No, Omar. A man's got to have a code.
@Helstrike3 жыл бұрын
I've always thought of Amos as a "self aware psychopath". I know that it isn't quite a correct term, but that's what I use to describe him. He understands that he doesn't understand people the way that most people do. He's seen the horror on other people's faces at his reactions. He has no desire to be a bad person, so he surrounds himself with people who can be his moral compass. I've read the books, but not the novellas yet. He'll always be the last man standing.
@neowuwei78516 ай бұрын
Watching the evolution of Amos as a character was so amazing and subtle. He starts off as some mindless, amoral thug who would kill anyone that threatens his tribe. Then, he matures into a very sensitive and caring hero. Most people missed it, but when he BFF Prax finally caught the doctor who wanted to use Mei as a guinea pig, Prax felt the need to kill him. Amos stopped him by telling him, "You're not that guy..." knowing the guilt that would tear Prax apart from a cold blooded murder. So he let him off the hook and then told the doc, "I AM that guy..." probably bc of his childhood experiences with adults who exploit children. Then, he showed Clarissa compassion by letting her have the choice to kill herself if she wanted to. Clarissa also did a lot of maturing and instrospection with her time in jail and the remorse she showed. I love the look on Holden's face when Amos convinced him to let Clarissa be part of the crew. They got along and too bad something more didn't come of it, like Amos and Clarissa hooking up and having a child in the 5 years she had left. Of course, that would have affected Amos's path in the last book with him going to Laconia. I guess Bobbie and Naomi would have raised his kid then.
@crisbajcrisbaj4683 жыл бұрын
thanks... I dig people like you who have mined all the deeper-details of the Expanse...
@espalier3 жыл бұрын
Redemption stories are so affecting. For me anyway. Thank you.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
I hear you.
@yensid42943 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Anna traveled with Clarissa on board the Roci & she had an influence on Amos as well regarding his attitude towards Clarissa. He responds to & is protective of people who are gentle & non violent & altruistic ( Naomi, Prax, Alex, Anna, etc) So yeah, he started feeling empathy for Clarissa on the trip back to Luna as he spent more time with her. They're an interesting pair & I wish the show could have done as good a job with her POV in season 3 as the book did. Not understanding what motivated Clarissa is what compelled me to read the novels & I'm so glad I did.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
The show seemed to imply that Anna traveled with them, but she just set it up in the book. She was the epilogue in Abaddon's Gate and was still on the UNN Thomas Prince.
@yensid42943 жыл бұрын
@@PetePeppers1 Good catch. It's been a few years since I read the books & haven't re-read them so certain details are foggy. But I think the show definitely inferred Anna having an impact on Amos too. I liked how the show portrayed seeds being planted in Amos' mind & his burgeoning self awareness. Best part of the show especially since Wes Chatham is perfectly cast.
@benjaminlamptey18673 жыл бұрын
Amos/Timmy is just a full blown *mood*. Hands down the most relatable character on the show.
@nicki47153 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great video. So eye opening. Thanks. Btw Peaches and Amos are my FAV!!!
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
They have a great story, always enjoyed it.
@BoBaH_BoBaHoB2 жыл бұрын
Amos calls Clarissa "Peaches" because of her alias, Melba. A bowl of Peach Melba is the perfect after-dinner treat and its simple elegance makes it something truly special.
@rickbruner5525 Жыл бұрын
Amos was also given a gift that he didn't expect in season three when he and Prax found Mei and Prax called him, "his best friend in the world" right before the "You're not that guy." scene. Later on you see Amos' phone and Prax is tagged as, "My best friend in the world."
@Chuckf665 ай бұрын
The wonderful part of this is that my adopted little brother looks remarkably like Wes Chatham and his name is Timmy!
@ronfisher52593 жыл бұрын
Great insights and well conveyed
@TheHighlander20243 жыл бұрын
Nice job of providing explanations of Amos and Peaches' back stories.
@TheFaust2453 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of your best vids yet. Thanks!
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@nuclearlefthook50083 жыл бұрын
Amos is and has always been my favorite character. He's some form of sociopath (He forms attachments, is very protective of the people who holds dear) who tries his best to be a good guy. He knows he needs people around him to keep him in check, tell him what's right and wrong. He's trying to overcome his nature.
@AntonL6193 жыл бұрын
Amos is my favorite character. This show is amazing. Completely underrated.
@ricknelson36073 жыл бұрын
I really love many of the characters in this series. Amos is one of the most interesting because of the details and long history that was developed. I think Holden's character could be more interesting based on his family history and time in the military but it does not seem to be expanded on in the TV series.
@carriemorley3563 жыл бұрын
Best show on tv! Beautiful and Believable with superb acting! Superb everything!!
@dpwellman3 жыл бұрын
It's my favorite part of Season 5. . . In fact, its the only part of the story I like. I don't care about Naomi or Jim or Bobbie. Just these two and their odyssey.
@1chrisford3 жыл бұрын
Would a spinoff soap opera "Peaches & Amos - 2 Souls Adrift in the 23rd Century." satisfy your hunger? You only have so much time and always risk losing a show's pace and main story if you bog down too much in couples drama or this season, the Nagata Family subplot. The time put into Nagata this Season may end up making Season 5 less satisfying for most watchers if the last 2 episodes wrap with the climax being aside from some little war and battles no time was alloted to go with, "Filip loves Naomi Again!"
@charliesimar75413 жыл бұрын
Amos & Peaches also provides complementary balance to James & Naomi, with Alex orbiting all of them and piloting to their next destination.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Great how the pieces fit together.
@tracymetherell87443 жыл бұрын
Bobbie is a match for Alex. They have a very special best friend, almost sibling relationship
@0Triskelos03 жыл бұрын
"No matter where You go, there You are."
@teddy.d1743 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.....I really enjoy and love The Expanse, so the extra information is greatly appreciated! Liked and subscribed...👍🏻 On another note.....Amos clearly comes across as a sociopath, a lovable sociopath however strange that is but it’s obvious that he’s the way he is as a result of his childhood, his upbringing as well as him growing up with less than role models. Wes plays him brilliantly and there’s good reason he’s a fan favorite. The acting on this show is amazing, so many wonderful talents. Cara Gee’s Drummer is one of my favorites, her acting is superb! I’ve really enjoyed Amos and Peaches’ scenes together, I hope there’s much more in season 6.
@readwithDavid3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the character synthesis and congrats on 100K!
@Dave--FkTheDeepstate3 жыл бұрын
Amos is a great character ! Thanks for the video !! Subscribed !
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@bobdillon78323 жыл бұрын
Amos is my favorite character of any show, next to Jon Bernthals "Punisher"!
@AdamWhiteside3 жыл бұрын
Ah Pete, you nailed it!
@kmg5013 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very helpful and well done.
@PetePeppers13 жыл бұрын
No problem.
@davewillisporter3 жыл бұрын
really informative. Thank you!
@generaldvw3 жыл бұрын
Facinating, I have to get these books.
@cliftonthomas92413 жыл бұрын
The show is fantastic. But it doesn't scratch the surface on how good the books are.
@Antares_451 Жыл бұрын
Watching again in 2022 because I miss the show. FYI. First 3 seasons available on blu ray on Amazon
@davivignola58953 жыл бұрын
Amos was the most fascinating character to me in the novels. Holden is the person I would aspire to. Amos was the person who fascinates me. Peaches... I really didn't see her as a character, until the effect the two of them had on each other. It was *fascinating* to watch them both develop