The Extended Mind: The Power of Thinking Outside the Brain (Annie Murphy Paul)

[@PClanner]

The problem about people that have written about the same area of expertise is that sometimes the interviewer wants to talk about HIS book and subsequent experiences more. Would be interested to hear from her about her book, but it didn't happen.

[@xenokarasu]

Thank you Annie for having Michael on your show!

[@matt-30-]

Once again, Shermer brings a fabulous guest to interview himself.

[@bat2293]

Michael, enjoyed the interview, watched the whole thing. I specially liked the parts where you actually let _Annie_ talk.

[@KOOKY1PANDORA]

Shermer added greatly to the interview, he always does (imo). Great topic, thanks.

[@bat2293]

@@KOOKY1PANDORA Yes, yes he did. However, I just wish he would do it using fewer, and shorter sentences. I came to the show to hear Ms. Murphy Paul speak. (Keep in mind, if I didn't enjoy most of Mr. Shermer's content I wouldn't be subscribed to his channel.) Still liked, still subscribed. Have a nice day.

[@meinking22]

Annie was very definite in her answers to questions and didn't expand on topics too much. Holding that against Michael to me in this case is unfair. He really helped to fill the gaps and guide the ship in a necessary way.

[@bennguyen1313]

Regarding the Wason selection 4-card task problem and the strange synchronicity that happens when groups of people (line?) dance together or eat together (1h13m45s), it reminds me of the strange rubber hand illusion, that you can trick the mind into believing and feeling that an external hand is your own!

[@rgfxnet]

For a editor of skeptics magazine, not very skeptical. Calling those that are skeptical idiots. Being a skeptic is about questioning everything, especially the status quo. Despite Shermer's manic subjective and politically driven state, Annie never mixed politics with science always answered questions so succinctly. I really enjoyed her as guest.

[@brigham2250]

Regarding the beginning of this video, I do not like audio books. I prefer reading a physical book and if I come across a great quote or piece of information I type it up in notepad and save it. Also, I will print out a copy and leave it in the book. But when listening, I don't do too well. I find writing down the important parts to me, helps me remember. In fact, when I went to school (many, many years ago), my trick to doing well on tests was to rewrite all my notes several times throughout the week and especially the day before. Come test time, no problem.

[@duyduhh3798]

The TDS portion starts at about 58:00. This one was particularly beautiful. Shermer talking about cults, streams right into ranting about his favorite "conspiracy theory" cult, QAnon. For a guy who apparently writes about this stuff, he seems to think it's literally the only one around. A long seven or eight minute redundant monologue, his guest nodding off. Then he does it again ten min later. Of course, he forgets how gullible tens of millions of BLM supporters are, and how much of a delusional movement that is. Come to think of it, why doesnt Shermer ever mention the BLM, Patriarchy, and white supremacy 'conspiracy theories"? And the Pride cult. Never once.

[@pbredder]

What do you make of Mark Solms' conclusion that this consciousness is 'affect', which requires the brain stem's reticular activation system, and can occur in individuals born without a cerebral cortex?

[@eswyatt]

That's interesting

[@frankfeldman6657]

Love the vocal fry, really helps put the arguments across.

[@terrywbreedlove]

Can anyone tell me what she wanted to say but couldn’t get out ?

[@rgfxnet]

That the election could of been rigged, but michael was calling skeptical people idiots 🙃

[@billbruehl]

Let her talk!

[@duyduhh3798]

The TDS portion starts at 58:00. A good one.

[@fullmatthew]

The only "Trump Derangement Syndrome" that exists is that exhibited by his blind followers who serve as his useful idiots.

[@duyduhh3798]

@@fullmatthew False. Also, I'm not a Trump supporter.

[@derekplus]

I like Michael Shermer - he's intelligent and he gets interesting people to talk, but he clearly lacks intuition. Maybe that is why he labels himself a skeptic, because his mind even doubts what he feels inside.

[@markstuber4731]

Regarding everyone following the leader of a group and self-silencing The Prussian Army recognized this problem and came up with the same solution. When they went on staff rides and looked at terrain and their where gaming a tactical problem, the lowest ranking gave his opinion first. This turned on its head with the Kaiser decided to go on staff rides. The Kaiser being royalty, had to go first. Some historians failed this lead to the ill conceived changes of the von Schlieffen Plan . The popular narrative is, the change in the von Schlieffen Plan led to the German failure to take Paris in the open stages of World War I and led to the awful trench warfare which followed. "Remember: keep the right wing very strong," Supposedly, Alfred von Schlieffen's last words. He died in 1905. His last request was not honored. Historians think this quote is probably apocryphal.

[@fildefaite2449]

God God, let your guest talk. I'm out.

[@BrianBattles]

Michael is a brilliant guy, but his "interviews" are always mainly about himself, and he lets the guests throw in a word here and there.

[@duyduhh3798]

@@BrianBattles my favorite redundant analogist.

[@chuckleezodiac24]

adios.

[@larryparis925]

Well, the “Extended Brain” is what anthropologist have been explaining for the past 150 years, as the concept of culture. Why is this taking so long for people to understand?

[@kevindanielpg]

Culture, community, connection. We are social animals, learning is lively process so yeah, you could say anthropologist, biologist, community leaders are telling us this story from a while now, good point chap.

[@A3Kr0n]

Wondrium sounds like a cryptocurrency, although some marketing types might disagree.

[@mikhailhumphries]

Okay, now you've been deep in reading. Now, it's time to go to mass meeting areas (tiktok) and share what you have read.

[@Atheistbatman]

Loved her in Schitts Creek

[@Atheistbatman]

Sorry, couldn’t resist

[@mohammadbaqirbayani509]

Such a great conversation! Thanks Michael! For anyone who is interested in the summary of The Extended Mind, here is a link to the video summary (12.33 minutes long) that I just published. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKvaeYenoLqbd6c

[@DavidMorley123]

Shermer, your arguments involving politics diminish them. You seem weak on social psychology. Otherwise, thanks much for your interview. You should give your guest more latitude in expressing her own ideas.

[@ronkrate609]

Her Vocal Fry made her speech hard to hear on my laptop. He needs lessons in self-silencing.

[@oller7113]

I am sorry, mr Schermer but you lost my respect when you revealed your prejudice on sceptics of the official 9/11 narrative. You did it without the support of facts. You shouldn´t act like that if you claim to be an intellectual. But maybe you just copied Noam Chomsky when he claimed that he could debunk the sceptics by pure logic.

[@danaignat8790]

Great interviews but... I have to say something, after listening to almost all of them: Michael, I love your books and your work but, my friend, your mentioning of Chopra so often really is... how should I put it?! Not very fortunate to say the least. I understand you are his friend but, man, he's a real jibber-jabber-ist, how could you even mention him once, let alone so many times?! He and Tolle and Dispensa are the very exponents of pseudoscience and all kinds of New Age-ish jibberish. Please leave them out of scientific talks. I mean... these guys are charlatans! They take advantage of people... I mean, every time I hear you saying something about your friend Chopra's this or that idea about consciousness... that man knows nothing about the brain and less still about biology and quantum physics, he talks pure 100% jibber-jabber. How could you take him seriously and lift him to any degree of importance just because he wrote multiple books desperate people take for granted and turned them into bestsellers??! He's an impostor!!! Stop citing him, Tolle and the like - please! I'm sorry but I had to say it. Maybe you read the comments, maybe not but... it's really a shame I hear those names on a Skeptic page. I find it great to interview them (once!) but to cite them and their mumble-jumble all over again while talking to real scientists?! I mean... whatever, I just couldn't take it anymore. Maybe I should stop listening to your interviews or something. That said, thanks for your work, it's indeed really good, I love your talks, I've learned a lot from you and your guests, except for all that unfortunate and repeated returning to guys like Chopra. I understand one has to listen to guys like Chopra, I've read some of his gibberish... I confess I couldn't go for too long because he writes pure stupid stuff, worse still than Osho, but from there to repeatedly go back to him... to me, it's a bridge too far. So... my apologies for all this.

[@moumitaadhikary8847]

India.