The Extension of Mind Through Space and the Sense of Being Stared At: Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogue 82

The Sense of Being Stared at and the Extension of Mind Through Space: Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogue 82
Do our minds reside solely inside our heads, or perhaps bodies? Or do they extend into the wider world, perhaps even reaching to the stars? In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon discuss the extended mind theory, taking a lead from recent work of Rupert’s on the sense of being stared at, and also the problems that contemporary science has with understanding vision. The discussion considers new research carried out by Rupert and others, as well as the theories of A.N. Whitehead. The way in which science since Maxwell has considered light as moving backwards as well as forwards in time is explored, alongside the way that William Blake described how we see, which itself fits the ancient understanding, that seeing is an active process of engagement, not a passive mode of reception.
Rupert references two published papers. One is on the nature of visual perception, co-written with Alex Gomez-Marin, online here:
www.sheldrake.org/files/pdfs/...
The other is on directional scopaesthesia, co-written with Pamela Smart, online here:
www.sheldrake.org/files/pdfs/....
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Dr Rupert Sheldrake, PhD, is a biologist and author best known for his hypothesis of morphic resonance. At Cambridge University, as a Fellow of Clare College, he was Director of Studies in biochemistry and cell biology. As the Rosenheim Research Fellow of the Royal Society, he carried out research on the development of plants and the ageing of cells, and together with Philip Rubery discovered the mechanism of polar auxin transport. In India, he was Principal Plant Physiologist at the International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics, where he helped develop new cropping systems now widely used by farmers. He is the author of more than 100 papers in peer-reviewed journals and his research contributions have been widely recognized by the academic community, earning him a notable h-index for numerous citations. On ResearchGate his Research Interest Score puts him among the top 4% of scientists.
www.sheldrake.org?svd=82
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Dr Mark Vernon is a psychotherapist and writer with a rich academic background in physics, theology, and philosophy. He contributes to programmes on the radio, writes and reviews for newspapers and magazines, gives talks and podcasts. His books have covered themes including friendship and God, ancient Greek philosophy and wellbeing. His new book, out August 2019, is "A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling and the Evolution of Consciousness". He has a PhD in ancient Greek philosophy, and other degrees in physics and in theology, and works as a psychotherapist in private practice. He used to be an Anglican priest.
Mark's latest book is...
A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling, and the Evolution of Consciousness
www.markvernon.com/books/a-sec...

[@eugenesokol3918]

I love Dr. Rupert Sheldrake. He should be deemed the "Saint of Science." Can't wait to learn more from this great man.

[@stacey_1111rh]

One of the most under rated minds in western modern society. Best wishes Rupert

[@TriggerIreland]

Fascinating. I love the humility of these two gentlemen. "I hope these talks are useful", says Mr Vernon. I would venture they're about as useful as true north to a compass. Thank you.

[@YTC9]

Very good thank you what comes to mind is - ‘To see a World in a grain of sand and a heaven in a wild flower, hold Infinity in the palm of your hand and eternity in an hour'. (W Blake)

[@davepuxley7387]

In Ennead 1.1, Plotinus argues that the soul (ψυχή) is interwoven (συμπλέκτη) with the body 'as/like light' - another wonderful point of agreement with both the Indian and Mediaeval sources. Thank you for this!

[@susanfay2213]

Amazing dialogue between these two luminaries. My mind is a bit gob-smacked after the first listen - these two minds romp through paradigm busting ideas like sun beams. I feel a little left in the dust and have to listen again! With Rupert, the ideas are always so surprising and yet so simple and natural and ultimately make so much sense. And they also often strike my heart and get it involved as well -- that's why his theories and ideas seem so JUICY to me. Thank you both for these precious dialogues.

[@Johnny_RB]

One of the most interesting conversations I've listened to in a while. Thank you both.

[@Yellowblam]

Great talk. Rupert is a prophet.

[@blackbird365]

How I love these conversations! 16.30 but God doesn't need to discover where things are & what is happening, since God is the very being & source of everything - not just an entity amid others, but Being Itself / Amself. So there is nothing unknown to or uncaused by God. The very concept of God is the ultimate reality at the core & everything ... nothing exists without (outside) God. So God doesn't need sense organs through which to find out things. Such a being would be 'a god' (demigod? demiurge?) within the created world, rather than the creator /God. An absolutely wonderful, gripping conversation, as always. I love Mark's note that what's looking out is as important as what's coming in ... (our cultural conditioning etc) The time-reversal ideas are utterly fascinating. Thank you both! 🙏

[@stevencook5501]

To whatever extent one can incorporate Buddhist cosmological philosophy into this topic, it may be of interest to note that the fundamentals of Buddhism assert that mind and space are two words for the same thing.

[@RinpochesRose]

Yes. And well over 2,500 years ago that was said ✌️

[@johnbrowne2173]

@@RinpochesRose when I was apprised of "the Mother of great Space", I never understood whether "the Mother" WAS "great Space", or that "great Space" was the progeny of "the Mother". The idea that "great Space" is the Consciousness that grasps all Things seems spot-on. ^..^

[@Lelabear]

Fascinating! Reminded me of an open-eye meditation session I did once at an Ashram where the teacher showed us how to "reverse" our vision so instead of looking "out" we drew the energy "in." Then we had to look the teacher directly in the eyes while pulling in. That 15 minute exercise produced some of the most profound visual hallucinations I have ever experienced.

[@sbsman4998]

"Where visual and mental meet" could explain why Autistics often describe eye contact as painfully intense making most conversation very difficult/impossible. Me speaking to groups, two or more people, very much changes my personal perceptions being overwhelmed by gazes intensity of unfathomable incoming energy = concentration kaput! This makes Autists vulnerable to bullying when others detect perceived "weakness" of their interpersonal interactions or inability to effectively manage incoming energies from light magnifying strange eyes. Many decades of outdoor living/backpacking I very often noticed how animals when surprised instantly intensely make eye contact even at very far distances and also how animals, especially Road Runner, has strange ability to see my mind's eye thus able to better camouflage themselves accordingly, they know what I see! ~

[@Frogman1212]

Whoa

[@anonymoushuman8344]

What's being called 'high functioning autism' is perhaps not a disorder at all, in many cases. Calling it such might, in many cases, be pathologizing an awareness or a way of being that is more advanced or simply different. Intense social anxiety and comparison of one's own insides with other people's outsides, coupled with the need for a diagnosis covered by insurance, could also be factors.

[@sbsman4998]

Indeed, throw in a corrupt "psychiatry" industry hell bent on profit medicating a population that for the most part just needs understanding ~

[@alexandervideo3804]

Rupert, your kind of thinking is very close to my mind... Thanks!

[@johnbrowne2173]

An accident showed me a feature of my 'consciousness'. I fell into an irrigation "wasteway" that took excess water down to the Columbia River at a Very steep angle. As I slid down on the algae-covered concrete, my mind suddenly produced an image of newspapers being printed & stacking up.. & when I could read their front page it was about a "teenage boy dies in plunge into the river". In other words it was predicting my future as best it could, given the info at hand. The final 3m of this plume was a different medium, upon which my wet trousers slowly skidded to a halt.. & I didn't go over the edge, to land on the boulders 10m below. At the point where I stopped, my mind was.. blank. Very revealing to me! ^..^

[@suzannabirarelli9544]

The concept of time & space is hard to grasp for our 3D mind until we can accept that time is not linear...and vision and all other senses is an experience in consciousness. Thank you for this interesting conversation:)

[@michaeldavidson1909]

I think Rupert was impressed by some of the hosts Blake. So, well done, there. Think I will subscribe.

[@Arttruthseeker]

Amazing conversation!

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

I think it's the Mandaka Upanishad that poses the question, What is it by knowing which, I will know all things? The answer is consciousness, Brahman. It's astonishing to me that Indian philosophers were addressing these question hundreds of years ago. Swami Sarvapriyananda has some wonderful talks on the Upanishads, the Bhagavat Gita and other works. I loved this conversation. Thank you.

[@leonstenutz6003]

Yes -- except the Vedas, and teachings of Buddha & Patañjali, are 1000s, not 100s, of years old (Buddha -- over 2500 years, Vedas even older).

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

@leonstenutz6003 agree....but scholars disagree about longevity. If I say thousands, someone corrects my foolishness. I can't win. But when one considers that the oral tradition predates the written tradition.....we are talking thousands of years. The Indian texts are without doubt ancient beyond our understanding.....and so incredibly wise; far in advance of cutting edge philosophy of mind in the West today. We can't even get as far as distinguishing mind from consciousness! Namaste.

[@leonstenutz6003]

@@amanitamuscaria7500 I hear you. That said, any serious scholar who knows anything at all about the Vedas, and the first written commentaries on Buddha, knows they were written at least two thousand years BCE -- so i wouldn't worry about the speculations of uninformed people. ¡Namaste! from Bolivia.

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

@leonstenutz6003 Oh, I don't worry about them. I just try not to give online pedants an excuse to lecture me. It seldom works, though. There is always someone wanting an argument. Even Swami Sarvapriyananda keeps his estimates of antiquity very conservative. He talks in hundreds, with the caveat that it is probably much older. I'm happy to follow his wisdom.

[@spiritlevelstudios]

Thanks for the fat stack of uploads recently 🙏🏻💙☯️

[@baalbaalblacksheep191]

explains why I can unlock my car with the remote, if I am too far away for it to work normally, by simply holding the remote to my head and looking at the car !

[@TylerClibbon]

still very inspiring after all these years rupert. my wish is to see you debate all the skeptics on all their podcasts and win, i know its combative but i think its the right thing to do, we need you!

[@lansingday1453]

Thank you. High Curiosity sparked in me at 17:58, Rupert: "the Divine Mind might have the electromagnetic field as its sense organ, or one of its sense organs..." Ques: then what other "sense organs" may Divine Mind have? For me, and likely wholly unrelated...i see and sense the dynamic of spin, of Bucky Fuller's Vector Equilibrium; i feel the ecstatic dance ... of icosahedron (12 axes "explosives" radii, as rooted) and dodecahedron (3D Pentad--nature form-making). That natural dynamic, a divine intermarriage. 🌸may all beings be free 🌸

[@chris_loth]

I think we need to understand interactions of dimensions. When I think of light it might be a 2-dimensional medium that doesn't interact with time, but it crosses the pane of space, therefore it underlies causality, yet it's all there anytime, all at once. If mind has a electromagnetic quality and therefore underlies some kind of interaction with this field, distance is actually an illusion when in the right state of mind. That's also why there is some kind of back coupling when you're staring at someone in a slightly higher conscious/focused state. You actually feel yourself resonating with the bigger field of consciousness being stared at by yourself.

[@jennnava2769]

When I close my eyes at night I see clear images, it’s like quick little movies that go very fast. So we don’t need light to come into the retina in order to see.

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

there is the phenomenon of blind sight, which is fascinating. And there are light receptors in our pineal gland, which is said to be our third eye.

[@synergiesabound1007]

How about hyper light that has the ability to impart or remove entropy from biological systems. I see at least “quick movements” during the day.

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

@@synergiesabound1007 I didn't know about that. I'll look into it.

[@synergiesabound1007]

Love to know what you find!

[@Demosophist]

About the extension of sense to the stars, Wal Thornhill calls it "the long field" or "the long wave".

[@kerrymccarpet]

Love these conversations!

[@nicholassteel5529]

Love these conversations 🙏👍

[@honeyinglune8957]

22:34 interesting parallel with the set of real numbers. past, present, future, negative, 0, positive

[@billpence5444]

Wow. Humans can be incredible

[@Jonofthemadlife]

Thanks to you both. This conversation raises many questions. Interesting

[@stiiffyrabbit]

I've experienced this sense, 2ce, when in london. The first time was quite, very disturbing - creepy, if you like. The 2nd was quite amazing - walking along a saturday-morning market high street, i had a moment with somebody four floors up, and way over there! In the moment, there needn't have been anybody else on the high street - we connected and, i'd love it to happen again! I wonder what they experienced, up in their apartment, as they stared at me amongst a crowd of 1000s?, before i, starkly, singled them out, all the way over there, and up there!

[@lorettafriesen8094]

Maybe consider putting Dan Winter in this theory for the electrical mathematics synthesis.

[@zoeshuttleworth359]

Thank you. CS Lewis also wrote about different beings’ respective abilities to perceive different phenomena, in the space trilogy :)

[@woman4womenkids547]

When I did a Vipassana retreat I became aware that thoughts seem to drift into focus as if from slightly outside and up (I think always top left, but I can’t be sure).

[@susannaemmerich1166]

Thank you!!! Mind bending.🙃🎶🎶🎶🙏

[@Anders01]

Vision coming from the future and reaching into past as you said I found fascinating. I learned recently that causality is still an unsolved problem in philosophy and in physics! My guess is that causality is holistic, including all of reality, past, present and future, and with that idea vision reaching into the past is a valid hypothesis.

[@sandfang]

wow that's quite interesting - could you maybe say a little more about causality not being solved?

[@Anders01]

@@sandfang I learned it from the Closer To Truth KZbin channel. I think it was the What is Causation? | Episode 1511 video.

[@nonordinaryreality2686]

Photons moving in opposite direction that collide might explain why you cant find the needle....?

[@maxcecco7910]

love you guys tnx

[@cuddywifter8386]

Ask not what's inside your head, but what your head is inside of? -William Mace

[@hederahelix8332]

We are vasoelastic vessels of the archetypal eye. Impedance matching is is enlightening and i want to believe it must be love.

[@johnbrowne2173]

would that be 'a resonant state'? ^..^

[@greenstar3411]

I think this is The most interesting approach to understanding space/time/consciousness. Weaving the great minds Plato etc into today’s- like Rupert - also David Icke, Ben Davidson (on the galactic sheet), Bruce Lipton others like him, open the 3rd eye (pineal) …. Life is a trip enjoy it by questioning and searching…

[@valorierobinson5985]

Thanks so much you two🙏 your work Rupert has helped me a great deal! There is a man named R Scott lemriel who says that the actual person he calls an Atman which is the Eternal human God particle has an orb above the head that is actually the Eternal person. He says that orb is a real thing he says that when we are asleep we move into that and somewhat leave the body to run other lives other places? He believes we are Eternal God particles dressed an extremely high tech space suits there's a lot more that he says about how we got here how many of us didn't actually choose it so recently the vertically integrated off-planet corporate structure that owned us and controlled us with a high-tech mind control device making us do things that we would never choose and after we do them we don't remember! Basically puppets there's a lot of exopolitics about this going on now. I find I am having similar experiences. Thank you so much for your work!✌🎆😊

[@anyakukureka3595]

I believe that Light IS Mind / Consciousness.

[@chrisd6982]

Good stuff. How to we 'see' in dreams? How are the DMT elves 'seen'?

[@markboyton-salts.3155]

Presumably, the person who 'correctly' senses they are being stared at is in some sense extending their mind out, so to speak, to the person's (or animals') mind who is, at that moment, staring at them? Would this imply a form of sensory apparatus that when it is activated, would, or should have a concomitant activity in the brain - as with our 'normal' senses?

[@theubercaste]

@takebackspacetv mentioned this episode last night. 4:00-eh? Wot??!!

[@beckyconstantinides2546]

Eyes with love see differently

[@lellyflawless]

mind bending asf

[@jarijansma2207]

THANK YOU RUPERT SHELDRAKE. for the chromatic view

[@johnnada.]

at approx. 12:50 the topic of the direction of time - the phenomenon of retroactive continuity (aka Mandela Effect) is treated in a specific way by so-called scientific outlets - what would a conversation be like in this video series? there are residual anomalies both virtual (online) and physical that no longer match the memory of millions or billions of individuals from everywhere - there are changes to historical narratives and new events like Black Tom Island being the first foreign attack on US soil, the location of South America being much farther east than many recall, logos and changed to well known song lyrics and celebrity names, changes to Bible passages, among hundreds of others. One resource is on Odysee under Brian S Staveley where he has a “Mandela Effect shortlist” that presents evidence for a single effect in each video.

[@OrigenisAdamantios]

#MindfromWithout (θύραθεν νοῦς) cf. Tzamalikos

[@deepblack67]

No no no, @19:46 it is not transmission through time it is the material/etheric connection. One of the metaphysical problems of our thinking has to do with dimensions. We need to talk about phase space, orders, dimensions/degrees-of-freedom, octaves/planes. We are in an active phase space, where an implicate order has had an emergent explicate order, manifest a volume of activity, which resonated across octaves or planes of development, from matter, to life, to self conscious awareness. The universe is self creating, self organizing, not entropic, expanding, or depleting. It is evolving. We are evolving, we are the universe evolving.

[@rogerc7960]

Alan Turing paper on "can machines think" contains a section on telepathy.

[@javadhashtroudian5740]

In Persian Sufis talk about the hidden world rather than the inner world. And in Advaita Vedanta or other radical monist systems there is no inner/outer, before/after, here/there or any other polarity.

[@johnbrowne2173]

This has been a clue for me: when I 'see' a flower that's 'new' to me, that I've never noticed before, I can now be fairly certain that I'll see a number of them in the near future... in familiar places. ^..^

[@common12-music]

🌹... Great Talk 🌟- regarding the medium of directional communication it could be interesting to read " Record of Yoga " by Aurobindo ...

[@enidsnarb]

Memory fields, outward projection , gravity from the future and all these concepts are wonderfully intriguing! Where do emotions fit into all of this???

[@johnbrowne2173]

Probably as personal responses to these phenomena, since they won't be identical, in any case, to others' responses. (wild guess!) ^..^

[@enidsnarb]

I was always into transcending time by going faster than the speed of light and I would propose there was something in blood going faster than light giving us memory and foresight , years of this and I came to conclude that emotions were the very fastest and most time transcending of all … very different than Rupert’s fields explanation but both maybe???

[@_ARCATEC_]

Not a mirror but a sensor 💓

[@robertnaylor6119]

Light is a coaxial circuit

[@paulpurdue5963]

No light actually enters your brain, it's all frequency. All matter is frequency either absorbed or rejected which determines its mass. Mass is created by the preprogrammed formula determining the forming and collapsing wave of exchange. The wave function of the Fibronacci sequence and amount of predetermined energy at the moment of exchange creates a void filled by a vacuum of suspension of which Gravity is emergent. Gravity then light are supported by the substrate of Either, of which Either is instantaneous throughout the Universe. The entire celestial machine is created by Consciences. Consciences creates the Habitat for which life can exist, but it's all actually an illusion. Virtually all matter is empty space.

[@honeyinglune8957]

james joyce calls vision the 'eroscope' at one point in FW

[@ACivilBeast]

Wouldn't it be the case that you're mind is not reaching out to the star itself which is lightyears away, but rather your mind is reaching out to the light from the star that has already arrived at our point in space, which is immediately available in the current space we occupy? Essentially, the star's light has already travelled lightyears to your position, and your vision is travelling out and meeting that light where they intersect in space.

[@goldwhitedragon]

Rupert has been reading Chris Langan's CTMU?

[@earthstick]

The video on reproducible science has gone. I was about to comment on it as follows: How can anyone independently reproduce the findings of CERN? There is only one large hadron collider, even if an independent team attempt to reproduce the findings, they must do it on the same LHC, because there is only one. If the experiments could be reproduced on any lesser aparatus, then we would not need the LHC.

[@mytechpeople]

Could thoughts outside our hardwired bodies, possibly travel faster than light?

[@anonymoushuman8344]

I've had numerous experiences of staring at someone whose back was turned and having them turn around to look at me looking, just as if I had tapped them on the shoulder. It's always a little uncanny. But I'm not sure I've ever consciously had the sense of being stared at myself without visual cues to that effect. What is it like? Is there a consensus about how it feels?

[@scarborosasquatchstation1403]

Yes.. Very interesting talk there Rupert on the inter-dimensional way of observing images... Intuition knowing one is being stared at is a common experience for myself.. Can pick out the people in the crowd ! Alright I may be available for private conversation on this strange phenomenon of viewing outside the box... Thanks ! ❤🙏

[@scarborosasquatchstation1403]

Example... When I was hereby physically viewing with my own two eyes at a bipedal creature... Who was situated just across the creek while standing beside the right side of the tree, from just above halfway mark up the side of the ridge. Next I am now holding my camera up to my face viewing thru the camera's screen, surprisingly I now amazingly spy a second similar looking creature who is also standing next to the same tree, except it is on the left side while the other bi-pedal creature is still there on the right side of the tree... STRANGE ~ I next lower the camera screen away from my face to physically view the creatures, except there is no more creature on the left side only the right side of the tree still has the creature present... Dumbfounded or I was thinking possible hallucination of sorts lol That is until I have again raised the camera's screen back up to my face a second time, and once again spying the left side creature there in plain sight.. along with the presence of the right side creature... Third time's the charm when the same results are achieved, having now realized what is actually taking place by tapping into an inter-dimensional realm...! Thanks

[@judithmillershanner5583]

Would photons moving backwards in time be a possible explanation of quantum entanglement?

[@harryanderson7282]

Why was the repeatable results video made private? Also, why is it that most, if not all, Christians seem to be suffering from this same sort of metaphysical Stockholm Syndrome?

[@rodgersmith-iu1yb]

This may come across ignorant but the camera image and photo doesn't that in some way show exactly what Rupert speaks of . Would peoples interpretations of what they see in the photos be different?

[@seanmchugh840]

Also none of your recent Dialogues videos on your channel have appeared on my subscriptions listing.

[@Frogman1212]

A youtuber can control that. It's a feature for dumping a load of videos at once, as he clearly did. He could have made a community post about it (Or the younger person who probably helps him with this.

[@seanmchugh840]

@@Frogman1212 Okay...

[@mariakasstan]

What does 'seeing'' mean for the blind in this context?

[@dianablackman4528]

Always thought a photon is a "light particle."

[@blakereneehope]

[@garykezar5553]

The universe is made up of not only electromagnetic waves but also sonic or compression waves. In the manifested world/dimension there is no escaping polarity/duality.

[@anyakukureka3595]

but how could we ascertain what is 'really there'? (Descartes' questioning!) Everything we can 'know' empirically is still subject to our own subjectivity. We cannot jump outside our consciousness to check if something is 'real' or not. All our reality is only within & through our experience & interpretation - though of course we are open to new ideas, perceptions, concepts etc coming in / appearing / manifesting.

[@breadcrumbtv]

Meditation 🙏

[@seanmchugh840]

Rupert, your other Reproducibility video taken down/ made private ?! My comment on Apollo got it banned already? Join the club...☕

[@kensho123456]

Rupert -- I linked to your other video about reproducibility on my website but it has been marked "private" - I hope it is possible to bring it back.

[@Robert-is7du]

How about feelings How deeply we love all sacred temples as templates of software operating systems engineering circuits The First center point of Origin observing itself

[@Robert-is7du]

Holographic visual mathematical language codes of a mirror no different than an old 35 mm Camera eye

[@AdolfoRiosPitaGiurfa]

You say you do not know mathematics, though we develope equations while we speak….(Guess the "Holy Empire" taught us to believe we do not..menacing us to take us to the stake!)

[@Robert-is7du]

Perception is based on ur Core encryption coded language Biofield Holographic DNA software operating system Template codecs Not everyone runs the same software Wet ware dry ware Wet bulb transcription transpiration codes of writing Mathematical language codes into ur Read active memory driven program apps The application of consciousness directed energy The CD tectonic Hyperdrive EFFI force Field Unity3 waves torque speed differential displacement in water worlds Water Column tables of Matrices language Machine Coded 55 harmonic identities That's a Black Hole Template codecs chasing electrons

[@user-se3bw8ku8i]

i got nothing in my head, got a floor for a bed and my future lies in the bottom of a teacup. whats that you say. space didnt create it all to work for everyone ! oh well then life goes on with gods n religions as usual for us.

[@blackbird5634]

Perhaps it's too much to ask that Deepak Chopra's name be ''stricken from the record'' as a ''doctor'' of whatever, he's not a scientist he's a charlatan, a con man, a ''woo woo'' witch doctor at best who pretends to know what theoretical physics says when it describes ''non local'' matter. Chopra has been embarrassed in public at MIT calling an actual theoretic physicist ''someone pretending to be a scientist.'' And then goes on to string many terms used in metaphysics and microphysics into a spaghetti string of nonsense. I'm happy to hear Sheldrake's theories, he doesn't demand that he knows as much as a nuclear scientist, or someone with a PHD in physics, he merely suggests there are other ways of interpreting the information available. On another note, Chopra claims to have the secret to eternal life, and he makes money with this bologna.

[@clintnorton4322]

Entanglement, gentlemen. Holonicly scaling entanglement. As far as we know entanglement is directional and requires no medium. (Though photons may be the medium since they are pervasive throughout the universe. Or maybe neutrinos.....) The idea of time reversal that is related to the universal directionality of time in mathematics is a useful thought experiment but results in a dead end. Math only tells the truth it's given to tell and ultimately does a poor job of modeling reality.

[@digita1dope]

Maybe God just farted and the universe appeared.

[@emmettpeels7114]

How are those Covid jabs going Rupe?