The F1 Cheating Controversy...

[@AlexFrush]

Massive thanks for the 200 subs, content creation is my dream job, and its starting to seem somewhat possible with this growth.

[@KingOfMalawi]

Congratulations!

[@stub4488]

Tyre management....nobody talks about it. Even when tyre wear is off, it still has wear.

[@GaresMusicOfficial]

Dylan Warren is literally the goat to make sure Ronhaar didn't win the France race 💀💀💀

[@jonnmostovoy2406]

That was something.

[@vxVexom]

Dylan warren is a noob who is just trying to be relevant

[@IPH-1212]

defended like a lion 😂 was so funny to see haha

[@kalerk_tm5690]

Id never have the balls to so such a thing haha

[@megacup3977]

why so aggressive do

[@RBSR5]

not weird how he somehow has better traction than everyone else and deletes lap times from VODs, cant be legit

[@TheSoundzUK]

this is pretty pathetic in all honesty, i love Racing, i love motorsports, i respect when a team finds a way around the rules and regs by designing things differently or being really inventive, but this is just sad and i dont understand how anybody can take satisfaction from doing things like this. Id feel ashamed to beat somebody by cheating

[@brianjones6465]

If PSGL doesn't ban him for life, people might as well publicly post the hacks for everyone to use since that's what PSGL is condoning by staying silent and taking no action. Furthermore, this violates the TOS of the game and the dev could ban him too.

[@Manderson0228]

I mean. I'll tell you at a minimum I'm never buying anything else from codemasters again. If they can't protect the highest level players from cheaters, how the hell could you expect them to protect guys like us. Thomas is not only ruining F1 esports he's also helping chip away at what little, if any, consumer confidence that still exists in codemasters.

[@NeverNotHoopin]

PSGL and WOR are a joke. There are PSGL chat moderators who are running WOR and vice versa.

[@reykoranteng9089]

@@Manderson0228 Consumer confidence in codemasters? After they put out this buggy EA ridden mess that is F1 22?

[@elonmusk9697]

Just say "developers".

[@yubakadi217]

Ban him with no proofs? your only proof is that he is faster than your virtual idol Jarno? haha

[@KingOfMalawi]

In my opinion, I think he's cheating as he is just way too fast for it to be skill

[@AlexFrush]

maybe, its tough to say but its looking like he is especially with all of this evidence and the drivers going against him too.

[@sandordomonkos8351]

With grip hack Yeah, and he have a highest top speed to..

[@chiomanwagwu2183]

Or he's built different idk

[@themightyhawks]

The worst part is, it seems as though it's being covered up. In Jarno's clip, he mentions that he's been staying quiet for the whole season and most importantly, he notes that the whole grid has. So it's known what is probably going on but nobody is saying anything.

[@matthewvaughan8192]

It doesn't indicate a 'cover-up' in any way. It's just sound career advice from his engineer because if it turns out that he's wrong and Ronhaar is legit, it's officially libel. And if it furthermore turns out that Ronhaar lost sponsorship or opportunities from Jarno's comments, it's officially a lawsuit that will costs thousands just to defend.

[@spamthisnuts]

Because they dont have real proof that he is cheating, thats why they are quiet lmao. Otherwise, im sure these youtubers will milk every ounce.

[@Chaotic_Fragment]

If Ronhaar wasn’t cheating in the Spain clip he probably had better track conditions from other drivers. However, if Opmeer did his lap after a similar amount of drivers to Ronhaar then he’s cheating.

[@AlexFrush]

yep, this is all very true, we'll have to wait for the next lan

[@AlexFrush]

Just rereading this, the two did their laps 30 seconds apart in the same league race, so the conditions would be the same.

[@akmrp7423]

​@@AlexFrush 😊lfefewwddedqqddddddddd

[@spamthisnuts]

@a what evidence? Opmeer is biting his lips when he is racing. look at how calm Ronhaar is. that speaks volume.

[@atkiinnacat]

​@@spamthisnutsbecause he is cheating

[@Pedro-jy6ev]

That spin on spa looks so fake, his recovery was out of this world, the car just perfectly stopped at the right time, felt like he never lost the control over the car

[@judge81]

Never been into F1 eSports only irl F1, but does this game not have time trail ghost replays? If he does a lap and his setup + inputs are recorded and then played on a clean PC, it should play without desync if it is legit.

[@QwoaX]

I'm only 99% convinced. Knowing Codemaster's games, there can be a weird way to gain an advantage, similar to the 60 FPS thing with the kerbs still going on. It could be any graphics setting, the resolution, input setting, which GPU brand or driver version he is using etc. or just an extremely weird setup. If you found an unfair but legal advantage you want to make sure you'll hide it for as long as possible, despite cheating allegations. Edit, add to the list: being CPU or GPU limited. One game I play behaves a lot different in either case, so you'll not want to be GPU limited unless you run well above 100 FPS.

[@Toremainunknown]

He's a good driver but the extra grip helps him

[@AlexFrush]

for sure, but cheating is cheating.

[@de4ds1ghtcsgo94]

​@@AlexFrushhe belongs in psgl without the cheats. He is that good without the cheats. Buthalf a percent of grip makes all the difference 😅

[@pat_rick2419]

@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 thats whats really frustrating to me. he's good enough to be in these leagues, but for some reason he allegedly cheats to get to the top instead of getting better

[@Bearical]

@@pat_rick2419 The sin of greed.

[@shadowclaw878]

0:05 ruins the fuin

[@hornetguy9063]

Sorry for the plebe question, but why can’t major events like F1 eSports be held on a LAN? Or couldn’t they diff your build of the game for discrepancies to a base version? Just looked up that the difference between first/second and third in F1 eSports prize $ is over $17k. What if ronhaar was cheating and beat out Rasmussen? That’s essentially stealing $17k from him. How can they just allow that?

[@jigabigalu]

I've thought the same, everyone on a fanatec and gaming rig for all drivers set my FIA officials so no tampering

[@hornetguy9063]

@@jigabigalu yup. It’s all equal machinery. I see no reason why everyone can’t have a clean install of the game on a non-personal device

[@LEGOpachinko]

I wonder since the game can record a replay, why can't it record all telemetry/inputs car set-up etc. so the rounds can be rerun on a clean computer for comparison ?

[@jigabigalu]

@@LEGOpachinko I'm sure in can when you go on settings in game you can see that input

[@LEGOpachinko]

@@jigabigalu yeah so it seems like an easy solution to save a file after the race and send it in for testing, bit like doping check. but probably there is something i am not seeing

[@MuseVoid]

so, i'ma play devil's advocate here but i'm just think that the grip guy is just taking big adventage compared to the other drivers of the neutral steering. if you compare the two clips, you see the mercedes guy tends to understeer or oversteer depending on the turn, and the hass guy tends to go as much as straigh line on the corner exits, and also tends to not turn excesively in each corner, so that's why you see a little bit of grip difference at the end of each turn, so, if you do that in every corner at the end of the lap you could get a decent laptime difference compared to other. I'm not trying to say that the other Esport drivers doesn't do that, but i think that guy just has a refined wheel control and just do that in a very solid efficient way compared to others so, if you see a video when he get his line disturbed by a dive bomb or a contact, he has less grip, but when he starts to get in rhytm again and regain his line, he starts to gain milisecs that at the end result in a few tents of adventage. That said, i'm not a Ronhaar's fan, i'm just trying to be impartial in my opinion about that considering he hasn't been caught actually cheating so far

[@irlantiisti2810]

How he picked up speed on HAAS so quickly. It looked like the word Chit noos. It's not possible, the resist is heated to 110°, he picked up speed from 5 km to 180 km faster than the riders. Who didn't stand still.

[@AlexFrush]

xD

[@BlissifiedHH]

I mean dont get me wrong, Thomas is a good driver and imo good enough to be in F1 esports. But he isnt this good. Just speed traps and apex speeds etc tells enough. Although minimal the guy is cheating. Its pretty much a fact at this point. He can be fast and a good driver in the scene, but not like this

[@AlexFrush]

Yeah youre not wrong, but there's still a very very low chance that he isnt cheating, we'll all have to wait for the next lan

[@0Synergy]

@@AlexFrush The thing about the LAN though is 1. You can still cheat 2. If he does REALLY good then is that just it for all of the other sus behavior? Even if he doesn't cheat just for the LAN does that exonerate him completely even online? 3. If he just has a bad day does that make him automatically guilty? Thats the problems I see the biggest thing is the game failing to stop cheating, or having some sort of kernel level anti cheat for pros so they can see all the behavior of the top drivers.

[@AlexFrush]

@@0Synergy All very fair and solid points, like I mentioned im by no means a pro, and might have a biased opinions. Thanks for sharing

[@0Synergy]

@@AlexFrush Thanks! and of course nothing wrong having opinions but I think what we can all agree on is this needs to be dealt with swift and firmly.

[@BlissifiedHH]

@@AlexFrush Very true, but i can understand his traction because thats a thing you can master. But what i just physically cant wrap my head around is that he has the highest speeds on the straights AND the corners. If it was irl and we had the dominant car like the RB19 then i can completely understand but these cars all have equal performamce, and everyone plays around alot with setups so he cant really have found like a loophole.

[@juliemittel3931]

no hate, but imo what kinda points towards it is how quickly he gets on the throttle out of corners, which points to levels of rear grip that the cars in F1 22 don't have, because his inputs look more like those of a real car, which isn't (or shouldn't) be the case here. though then again, i'm no expert on Esports setups, and jarno is almost as quickly (but not as quickly as thomas) on the power.

[@NIKKarmanov]

Not convinced. The only thing I found out is systematic misbehaviour by drivers against one certain person.

[@AlexFrush]

Just going through comments again to see if I’ve missed something interesting, despite being a long time ago. This is a very interesting way of looking at it, and a good point! thanks for commenting.

[@LadyFinger_]

Bro he's like full throttle while almost completely stopped at 0:52

[@struckbyrainbow_8780]

Sorry but in this situation "innocent until proven guilty" does just not apply anymore. He is now publically destroying his own sport so in order to not keep his destructive behavior going he needs to either be suspended until he is proven innocent or prove it himself by showing his files, which, isnt even that much work

[@jonmercado6962]

Many are requesting for him to show his screen but still refusing to do so..

[@spamthisnuts]

@@jonmercado6962 If he had a set up that has an edge over other drivers, why share it. Its not like you are gonna pay his bills.

[@RB-uw6ez]

The Bari incident was not even an incident, because Bari was ahead by the apex of the corner so in my opinion it was the fault of thomas.

[@thommes6471]

1:33 what did he see that I didn‘t? Watched it multiple times and I don‘t See anything out of place. Help.

[@AlexFrush]

Crazy grip through out the turn, caught jarno off guard

[@LEGOpachinko]

Forgive my noob question, but since the game can record a replay, why can't it record all telemetry/inputs car set-up etc. so the rounds can be rerun on a clean computer for comparison ?

[@GearHeadGaming007]

Because it isn't not present in the game i guess

[@LEGOpachinko]

@@GearHeadGaming007 yeah i meant to ask, why has it not been implemented yet ? Either in the game or as a mod. Since i see a lot of comments saying the only fair way/solution is a LAN with untampered computers but recording all inputs and settings/variables seems much simpler.

[@ManOfPillowDoom]

"Ruins the fuin for everyone" hate when they ruin the fuin...

[@AlexFrush]

lmao

[@RazerCicak]

Is like imagine your are Max and suddenly you see Mazepin goes to P1 in qualifying when the timer goes to 0:00

[@jigabigalu]

I watched a video of someone using cheats at 5% extra grip and they couldn't pass Thomas, it's clear he's cheating

[@raatelija9307]

i really hope LAN esport

[@AlexFrush]

Same, it will definitely make a more level field but most importantly a controlled environment

[@azzazz4549]

Ronhaar hasn't won a single race since the allegations 😂

[@AlexFrush]

true, but that doesnt deny anything, also worth mentioning that recently many drivers have started literally blocking and holding him up, so that could be a reason

[@Nox_Desiree]

​@@AlexFrush Yeah, a bunch of drivers see it's ronhaar and go out of their way to fight tooth and nail to keep him behind even if it loses them time or it's dangerous.

[@mahadevovnl]

A buddy of mine works at EA on the F1 team and they said that it's an internal debate, too. They're not allowed to say anything to the outside world but if I read between the lines, they are fully capable of implementing an anti-cheat system (but they won't do that retroactively, because money); they also have ways to look at race logs and see if the driving matches up with what should be possible (again, reading between the lines here; I was getting the impression that they know he's cheating for the full 100%)... and they also seem to know how the cheat works. It's a simple cheat where he's, probably, maybe, perhaps, tweaking some settings with minor differences. He could have .1% more traction, .1% more speed, .1% less fuel usage, and many other tiny tweaks that will add up to a massive advantage. But yes, innocent until proven guilty. We won't see that happening though, not for this iteration of F1 22. Even if he's caught, he'd just say "well it's not cheating unless you're caught, just like in real F1 where teams constantly try to be clever." And that is a point you cannot argue with. Ferrari cheated a few years ago, and teams are constantly trying to find loopholes. They say "oops haha", take a penalty, and carry on with life as if nothing happened.

[@Eat-MyGoal]

Driver has a folder on his PC full of cheat hacks... 'There's no evidence of cheating' 🤣🤣

[@brianjones6465]

Paying money for online events is just stupid. He's a cheater. Stop being nice to him. He should be banned for life, as should all cheaters. Cheaters are deceptive liars with no regard for others. Call it what it is.

[@oblied]

yeah but if hes not cheating this will bite them in the ass, thats why people are keeping silent

[@brianjones6465]

@@oblied You can tell alot by those who defend him or try to make excuses. They are SUS too.

[@hornetguy9063]

@@oblied yup. Launch an investigation.

[@oblied]

@@brianjones6465 they just want to see someone new win probably

[@F1Cockpit-view-Racing]

The biggest cheat they all use is the ‘Super Mario’ view mode instead of cockpit view mode. They are sitting on the pilots shoulders with an expensive wheel and rig…. Very realistic…. Not.

[@jinglemyberries866]

Agree, it should be required that they use the real POV from the driver eyes and not from the top of the helmet.

[@Dutch-McLarenJk82-]

Why are y’all being such elitists, you can’t see for shit in cockpit cam even real life is better. And dude this is not iRacing the physics are not sim worthy anyway so why saying it’s not realistic when the physics are so far off anyway. Despite Jarno did a vid in cockpit cam.

[@Thelion66]

So this is like verstapen of f1 game

[@AlexFrush]

No, it’s more if Latifi suddenly became max verstappen.

[@m.m.6615]

Jarno better be right or he's the biggest cry baby ever

[@Osca3007]

How can i know if he is cheating? It is hard to see it

[@AlexFrush]

You’ve got to compare the fasest in the world side by side. If the gap between 2nd to 5th in the world is 1.5 hundredths, and then 1st to 2nd is magically somehow 7 tenths, something is wrong

[@Zero41sv]

Cheats aside, is this really the best racecraft the series can produce? Forcing wide, lots of contact, exceeding track limits. I don't usually watch, and now Im extra glad about that.

[@kostakhc]

its not like that , everyone is just atacking that white car cuz he is porbably cheating

[@basti329]

Nah they are fair to each other. Only Thomas gets shoved wide etc because he is using cheats. Its just the way of the grid to show him how they feel about it.

[@Senny_V]

Most drivers are extremely clean. Occasionally there's an incident, but nothing you wouldn't see in IRL F1 either. Except when Ronhaar is around. You can tell everyone was tense last year, both in PSGL and F1 Esports. There was a lot of aggression from and towards Ronhaar

[@CampHBlood]

How can you cheat? Idk a lot so this is a honest question. Like how can you make the set up in your car better if all paremeters are the same in the game? Isn’t this just means that he is good? Or there something more?

[@AlexFrush]

You cheat by injecting a mod that increases your grip, ultimately giving you more speed all around, the amount of added grip can be as low as 0.015% but it still makes a difference

[@samay5902]

you can cheat because there is no anticheat in this god forsaken game, lmao😂😂

[@mathis8581]

but he would only use a speed cheat according to these clips or also maybe grip cheats ?

[@Noctis6926]

For me ronhaar does not cheat, I could run against him on F1 2020 and the 2021 in league race on xbox and he was well above everyone, same in time trial where he was first almost every time. In the 2021 and 2022 game there is the same thing with otis lawrence, xbox driver and he was first in time trial every time and nobody say "otis cheat".

[@NaplesFC]

Is he using grip hack or something ?

[@spiffytuber7515]

Yes

[@spamthisnuts]

@@spiffytuber7515 wdym yes. have you been to his house and looked at his PC. or u just a parrot for other salty drivers on the grid

[@dano100no]

People really getting so many views from these videos. It’s really something that so many people are aware of. Let’s hope the truth is on its way.

[@AlexFrush]

Totally agree

[@hassanmhassan4368]

Can someone explain. I really don’t understand what’s happened?

[@AlexFrush]

People are suggesting that thomas ronhaar is using a grip mod, to increase his speed ever so slightly by what could be less than 0.015%. these claims are backed up by many esports drivers, but nothing is proved, so we'll have to wait for a LAN even.

[@hassanmhassan4368]

Ohh makes sense now. Thank you.

[@AlexFrush]

@@hassanmhassan4368 yeah ofc :D

[@seanmckerr7335]

Opmeer has come out and said that he doesn’t think carreton is cheating. Carreton came out and said that he was testing for Codemasters to develop anti cheat. Opmeer said that he isn’t cheating when competing in events such as PSGL because he would be much quicker and more competitive if he was

[@AlexFrush]

yeah me neither, I think in fact he might be doing a good thing, but people have ever right to be suspicius

[@yaadmanstyle]

@@AlexFrush Why would a developer reach out to a mid-tier driver for anti hack feedback? It def wouldn't be on a personal system anyway. They don't need him to create the remedy. That's not how that software works.

[@Zero41sv]

​@@yaadmanstyle exactly.

[@pepperfan1]

@@yaadmanstyle Not to mention that it is the only “actual” evidence of cheating, all we got on Ronhaar is “He is either cheating, or he is amazing. Also, if he is cheating, then there is probably more than 1 person using grip hacks. I think its suspicious how everyone jumped on him cheating, like they all knew the software themselves!

[@Yayo509]

once a cheater, always a cheater

[@schnurrfpv4594]

When dude spun him at spa he had no reaction. I’d be furious.

[@spamthisnuts]

bro is calm during the entire race. On the other hand Opmeer is biting his lips every corner. that speaks volume.

[@Sniff_Jenkem]

Why is he laughing at 1:17? He's a cheater too and it has actually been proven with him.

[@samay5902]

no he isnt and even jarno said that he was testing the mods and all other f1 esports drivers knew about this, stop spreading false news

[@Sniff_Jenkem]

@@samay5902 brother. He was testing it for Codemasters? Then why hasn't Codemasters responded? Why did he act like that? He knows he is guilty of having it. I'm just making assumptions. I'm allowed to have my opinion. It doesn't look good for him.

[@samay5902]

@@Sniff_Jenkem i mean, if you dont believe jarno then idk what to say

[@Sniff_Jenkem]

@@samay5902 dude, Jarno isn't end all be all. Jarno isn't proof of everything. I will apologize when Codemasters say that they were working with him.

[@Sniff_Jenkem]

@@samay5902 Not looking good since CodeMasters came out and said they didn't ask anyone to 'test' the cheats... So he is a confirmed cheater.

[@ProdriveGT]

Sad world we live in......

[@Sw0nk0]

Cant it be that a lot more is cheating but also not as good as Thomas? Its not like he would be the first to get caught if he really is cheating. And to be honest, if F1 want to make this an esport then they need to tell Codemasters that they need things like anti-cheat. If Valve released CSGO without VAC and hosted all tournaments online, what do you think would happen? If there is money involved people will always try to get an advantage, just look at sports. F1/Codemasters, whoever is responsible for these competitions need to understand that too..

[@NeverNotHoopin]

They don't understand that with behavior like this they are going to ruin F1 e-sport in general. This racing hype could be over in a heartbeat if they don't do something.

[@tomnakedi167]

no one (including PSGL) has any concrete evidence to prove these cheating allegations. you cant ban a competitor just because he seems to be too fast. Yes he might be cheating but there isnt enough evidence for anyone to do anything.

[@robbienl8176]

Sometimes someone is just better than others

[@AlexFrush]

true and all but its not just us you know, this mustve been going on for months now, the drivers are starting to get tired too

[@davyvandenberg59]

Uhuh. And I take it that when some athlete magically performs better you just say that they’re built different. I guess sometimes someone has more brain than others

[@cesco1990]

Haha they're probably all cheating. Ron might so it a bit more blatantly than the rest. That is what actually shocks them.

[@shinkunokishi117]

3:05 this clip made my jaw reach the ground

[@K543]

It's hard to prove because it's all about 1-2 tenths lap time. Also I think he is one of the best without cheats, imagine a lower tier driver uses this hack it would be even more hard to detect.

[@UncleNewy1]

Why do they use this cartoon of a game for the pinnacle of esports sim racing?

[@AlexFrush]

Because it’s the official F1 Game, either way I don’t think they’d use something like iracing if that’s what you’re suggesting

[@UncleNewy1]

@@AlexFrush I'm not suggesting JUST iRacing.......but at least something with better contact and crash physics.........I've never played any specific F1 game fully, but I'm guessing there must be a full realism setting, where cars don't just bounce off each other and carry on regardless. iRacing, Assetto Corsa and RF2 all have formula cars with the option to alter liveries to represent every team involved.

[@AlexFrush]

Totally understand but again, this is a licensed game, in fact I like iRacing more than F1. But it would make no sense to not use the F1 games.

[@jonmercado6962]

Jarno opmeer just exposed thomas ronhaar in WOR when jarno made a spectacular defense against thomas.. its just show that thomas lacks skills. He just rely on quali that is sometimes making impossibpl lap time like even he miss the apex or oversteer and correct it and still gets good lap time. That is why other racers are doubting thomas wether he is legit or not

[@hairyferrit]

So much for innocence until proven guilty, so many of this vids where people are upset that he can drive better than the rest.

[@megacup3977]

whhy is dylan so aggressive

[@AvocadoOverlord777]

Ronhaar has a very stable car, relative to the others. Is that cheating or God tier driving, I can't say.

[@huttonberries768]

There's a chance he's legit but he's being so shady about it

[@spamthisnuts]

why answer the haters. they dont pay his bills

[@huttonberries768]

@@spamthisnuts because it would reduce suspicions around him and stop people being as hostile towards him on and off the track

[@davyvandenberg59]

Like. Sometimes people are just really good at 1 specific track. It happens. But this is far beyond reasonable. Especially considering most of these guys are on the limit already. And ronhaar just leaves them in the dust. Ban his ass

[@synthwave3916]

When there is such noise but nobody claims there is a cheater, it is because they are all cheating to some extent. Think about it.

[@oliverbuskell5881]

This needs to be policed

[@maxiscooterridescapetown-g2217]

Why does everyone say he is cheatin?

[@AlexFrush]

Unrealistic lap times and incredible grip in tough moments, when the top 5 is spread by a tenth someone magically going to the top by 2 tenths is concerning

[@caskraker]

All couch drivers are cheating. Put them in a real car and see who survives a race. Most of them don’t even fit in an F1 car.

[@Mr_MachoGlobe]

Dylan Warren my Hero Also with Ronhaar it’s now painfully obvious Not only that, it’s been proven that esports drivers have kept it silent for so long until that Spain race in PSGL which was impossible to not comment on. Of course Freddy taking Ronhaar out in Mexico that was 2 months before PSGL Spain so for the esports drivers it’s probably been ridiculously painful and stupid with Codemasters and with everybody letting him still race because of the “innocent until proven guilty” guide for me it’s Guilty until proven innocent especially if you have so many people against you on this and with evidence (non conclusive) but good evidence nonetheless

[@AlexFrush]

Yeah, I can imagine how it feels to fight for 750K dollars!!! And knowing that one of the drivers youre competing against might be (most likely) using hacks to give them an unfair advantage

[@kyperactive]

Heres my thing: Its impossible for someone to defend themself under "guilty till proven innocent". Not saying he aint cheating, just saying it aint fair to him. If court cases were like that, no one wins.

[@Christoffski]

That's professional E-sports? Awful racecraft. Toxic.

[@AlexFrush]

Yeah well they’re tired of cheating I guess, there guys are usually so clean haha. They’re all so close to excellence that at times they’re just driving in what seems like a massive snake because they’re all doing almost the exact everything 😂 Yet I still think the skill ceiling will never be reached because of new games every year. Esports is astonishing and fascinating to see when it’s a good race, definitely recommended whenever you are bored of the real f1

[@Christoffski]

@@AlexFrush I hope it's not the norm for sure as it doesn't make for a spectacle.

[@FormulaProg]

Everyone is too aggressive... Not just him.

[@Mr_MachoGlobe]

Everyone is too aggressive “against Ronhaar” I’d do the exact same thing, nobody wants a cheater to win when they don’t deserve to win.

[@FormulaProg]

@@Mr_MachoGlobe innocent until proven guilt... Oh wait I forgot this is the internet. Forget it.

[@AlexFrush]

@@FormulaProg I think its worth mentioning that I said he's innocent until proven guilty, unfortunately the average watch through rate on this video is around 33%, so most people didnt come to that part lol

[@FormulaProg]

@@AlexFrush yeah you did and I saw that at the start of your video but the comments don't seem to take that into account, that's all 🙂

[@AlexFrush]

Honestly I hope it’s one of the first two, I love ronhaar but it has been hard too recently

[@PHYLOgg]

I'm sorry but the amount of cutting out of track limits is just absolutely laughable... Regardless if he's cheating, he has stupid race etiquette.

[@reuben.vfx6]

How is he cheating

[@AlexFrush]

grip cheats, allowing him to have more grip mid turn and when getting on the power, this is mostly visible as I mentioned on medium speed turns and especially in the wet

[@CrackWatchGP]

@@AlexFrush I think its obvious now you know going from 2 tenths ahead to qualifying P9 and finishing P9

[@reuben.vfx6]

@@AlexFrush thx

[@reuben.vfx6]

@@AlexFrushoh nice

[@eleveendays]

yes he is, doing full flat corners that no one ever did, the guy is a cheat or a fucking genious driver, should be on the mercedes car for sure

[@yubakadi217]

Deluisonal virtual Jarno fannerds accusing someone of cheating just because he is faster than their nerdo virtual idol! Can't wait for Ronhaar to destroy him on Esports again

[@AlexFrush]

Everyone can have their own opinion, trust me more than anything I'd want this to be false, such advancements are astronomical. Additionally nor am I really a fan of Jarno, but thanks for commenting.

[@tftstudios9259]

Warren what a guy 😂

[@bfr_rickiee6744]

Like, the compared laps from Jarno and Thomas... Thomas steers in more and is in a lower gear, 1. Being in a lower gear makes ur car turn better and 2. Steering in more... it speaks for itself

[@leonoutlaw2975]

F.... Ronhaar is that abusive I use to like the guy but doing my own research and watching his inputs and lines and after due diligent he is 100% cheating 😅

[@xjuliussx]

everyone know and proved he is cheating, and another cheater that ppl seems to escape attention is OTtis Lawrence. They come from same club ;)) btw

[@mclaren-senna638]

Can not believe that PSGL has not taken action and given him a lifetime ban. He is definitely cheating and to think this I going unpunished is joke. EA ,PSGL DO SOMETHING.

[@AlexFrush]

totally agree, but i wouldnt be suprised if its hard for leagues like psgl to take action, ea tho, should. Im pretty sure esports is owned by another company

[@mclaren-senna638]

PSGL can simply ban him it is not rocket science they have hand out life bans before and removed driver's from the League. Our is PSGL afraid of fall out. Yes eSports was owed by Gfinty but that contract has now ended and I understand that new owners now are in control of eSports. But something needs to be done before damage is to server to recover

[@marco_1909]

@@mclaren-senna638 Do they ban without actual proof? because it is suspicious but we are yet to find any concrete proof. George morgan said ronhaar's pc was checked by an independent organisaton 6 times and was declared clean. I honestly dont know what is what now

[@vectro4284]

Remember to always have fuin.

[@AlexFrush]

Life is always more fuin that way 😊

[@vectro4284]

@@AlexFrush Definitely 😌

[@sirafoxtron1701]

1:37 I like his reaction lol

[@Jimmie92]

Should be ‘F1 Game Conspiracy’ this is not the real thing, as much as we love esports and sins, the title is a little silly come on.

[@AlexFrush]

I understand, but the title isn’t clickbait, and the game is the game. Trying to grow my channel. Hate the game not the player

[@Jimmie92]

@@AlexFrush As you say, the game is a game. Don’t leave that bit out to get more views, just to grow, come on. If you’re good you’ll do well anyway.

[@AlexFrush]

@@Jimmie92 Wait now I understand what you’re talking about 😂, yeah true but I included ronhaar so it should be clear it ain’t real life. Video has flatlined anyways 🤷‍♂️

[@redline33335]

Real joke is psgl trying to throw it under the rug

[@adrianoantoniomaldonado3771]

Thomassus Clownhaar™

[@exfumao]

Carreton nows... xD insane cheaters

[@vacasmolten2340]

first of all, is setup alowed? or is it the same for every one? If it is the same for every one then you probably have a case....if not here's a video of a well know track pole lap in a proper sim racing game.... btw thats 4 tenths down from the second best time . kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5KnXntuodSBpsk If it was some else, I would say they were cheating.

[@AlexFrush]

Yes setups are allowed, but in F1 22, these guys spend 25% of the time finding the best setup, and usually end up with practically identical, perfect setups, also, in a competition where usually the filed is split by a 2 - 3 tenths, and top 3 within a hundred, someone then going 4 tenths faster is unreal.

[@jinglemyberries866]

@@AlexFrush there might be a chance that he found some counterintuitive exploit in the setup, but surely somebody else would have found it by now.

[@AlexFrush]

Yeah I've heard this argument before, but like you said unless its some wired stuff like using 0/50 wings and then max all settings and thats mysterically broken it would be found by now because there are people that literally all they do is spend their days finding optimised setups

[@Eat-MyGoal]

Is he being respectful though? By cheating?

[@AlexFrush]

Know your self-worth and dont go as low as them.

[@adr1uno638]

The biggest cheat to me is the halo view 😂

[@AlexFrush]

haha maybe lmao

[@ayram_exe8437]

Nice vid

[@AlexFrush]

Thank you :)

[@Chip_in]

Cheater ⛳

[@evilsocietyHD]

Imo for Ronhaar there is only 2 option 1 he is a god, and is a class ahead of all F1 eSport driver (im doubting it but it would be so cool for the competition to push the level ahead, or he is cheating, and i think that the more probable answer is most of the time the truth, but im still doubting, i think EA should really investigate this case for the credibility of the F1 eSports series

[@norbertschmidt5997]

Cheating ? 🤭😂 just better

[@8r3ad62]

"fuin"

[@AlexFrush]

“Minor spelling mistake” 💀

[@8r3ad62]

all good. Great vid btw

[@Coxy-b34]

Make them all play on console.This is a PC disease.

[@AlexFrush]

Haha very true, but its also fps, and recording / streaming, instead, put them all in a controlled LAN enviorment, now that corona has slowed down, I think it could be possible.

[@Coxy-b34]

@@AlexFrush I've even heard of 'e-sports' gamers secretly using USB flash drives a LAN event's to use their 'hacks'.☹

[@AlexFrush]

@@Coxy-b34 never heard that before, that sucks ig :(

[@Coxy-b34]

@@AlexFrush Yeah,it is pathetic isn't it. You also have to accept that the top times and lap records of many racing sims are cheats.It's stands to reasons that if cheats/hacks are out there that the best times are fake. I'm a big fan of ACC but cheating is a fact of life on there and thus the best times are inevitably cheaters. Perhaps iRacing's are mostly genuine because it has a robust anti cheat sorftware but even iRacing has had cheaters in the past.

[@TG-Maverick22]

Thats why I hate crossplaying with pc hack boys. They need to stop this crossplay BS