The FAILURE of Sin Cara in WWE

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@FergusAdderley
@FergusAdderley 11 ай бұрын
Tom, I genuinely admire your top-notch wrestling analyses, but I couldn't help but notice a factual inaccuracy in 'The failure of Sin Cara in WWE.' Contrary to what was mentioned, there was never a trampoline involved in Sin Cara's storyline. It's crucial to ensure accurate information, and though this detail may seem minor, it's essential for maintaining the integrity of your otherwise excellent work. Keep up the great content, but let's set the record straight - no trampoline in Sin Cara's tale
@adam_a923
@adam_a923 11 ай бұрын
He did use a trampoline though...
@mrdoctorprofessorpatrick803
@mrdoctorprofessorpatrick803 11 ай бұрын
This dude must be trolling hard...
@adam_a923
@adam_a923 11 ай бұрын
@@mrdoctorprofessorpatrick803 That's what I was thinking but i wasn't 100% sure
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
@@adam_a923 ive seen this dork in Top10s comments before, hes definitely trolling. He must think he is being so funny when us wrestling fans just look down on him with pity...
@HaveARottenDay
@HaveARottenDay 11 ай бұрын
@@adam_a923Maybe he means that- The trampoline wasn’t in the STORY, in that WWE wanted the TV audience to not know it was there. That or he’s dumb lol
@MovieEggman
@MovieEggman 11 ай бұрын
WWE '12 had Sin Cara as the cover star in copies released Mexico, that's how far WWE wanted to push this guy.
@BlackPuma124
@BlackPuma124 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the other two covers were Orton and Rock. Sin Cara was also on the cover of the best of raw and SmackDown 2011 DVD
@ozguryilmarx
@ozguryilmarx 10 ай бұрын
@nonsensicaltopics 12-13 were so good fr.
@LARODEO15
@LARODEO15 10 ай бұрын
BRUH, all these years I thought that was fan made lmaooo
@giovanni5819
@giovanni5819 10 ай бұрын
Smack down vs raw 2008 was a blast
@french6013
@french6013 8 ай бұрын
@@ozguryilmarxnah go back a couple years SvR is goated too. I liked the multistories they had before the singular Sheamus, HHH, Cass story. All of them goated too. But 12 was my first WWE game. And it was Amaaaazing. Sucks that time travel ain’t been invented yet😂wouldn’t mind busting up the Wii one more time, kick my younger self’s ass😂
@kovulion7777
@kovulion7777 11 ай бұрын
There were reports of Sin Cara refusing to learn english and everyone he wrestles basically had to wrestle on the fly and just react and was really hard
@jesusleyva4386
@jesusleyva4386 11 ай бұрын
yea I heard that too
@abreviews2559
@abreviews2559 11 ай бұрын
I spoke to heath slater when I met him earlier this year at a concert (swell guy by the way) and he said he actually had no problem working with Sin Cara (the original) that he had better in ring chemistry with him than he did with Hunico (second sin cara).
@theghostreckon316
@theghostreckon316 11 ай бұрын
As a sloppy worker as Sin Cara* is I do admire how he basically freestyles his matches which is pretty cool but he’s also holding his opponents hostage 😅
@CenterCommunity
@CenterCommunity 10 ай бұрын
I’ve met Sin Cara, he knows English.
@anthonyalvarez2037
@anthonyalvarez2037 10 ай бұрын
This is true, I was Cara
@kenterminateddq5311
@kenterminateddq5311 11 ай бұрын
I remember WWE building Sin Cara as another Rey Mysterio. The beginning of the end (besides the botches) is Mistico didn't want to learn the American-style like Alberto did.
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
He was never going to achieve that
@InFiNiTeO7
@InFiNiTeO7 10 ай бұрын
Between Sin Cara and Del Rio. At least Del Rio got far in WWE, can't say the same for Cara.
@vileink4733
@vileink4733 9 ай бұрын
@@InFiNiTeO7 Compare them now tho.
@ernestogastelum9123
@ernestogastelum9123 8 ай бұрын
Alberto didnt have to change tbh. he was always more like a brawler in Mexico due to his physique
@kenterminateddq5311
@kenterminateddq5311 8 ай бұрын
@@ernestogastelum9123 According to Alberto El Moron in shoot interviews, he said that he had to go to OVW to learn the American-style. WWE wanted MIstico (the original Sin Cara) to go to OVW too but Mistico refused.
@jakeilano6821
@jakeilano6821 11 ай бұрын
Sin Cara was one of my favorite wrestlers at the time. I never knew that there were two of them and that Mistico (Sin Cara's original name) was released and Hunico took over the charcter Sin Cara.
@gamingcyborg88
@gamingcyborg88 11 ай бұрын
Not a lot of people knew it's one of the many things that comes with following everywhere with a ring if you only follow the biggs you're only going to know what happens there
@XplicitTruth444
@XplicitTruth444 11 ай бұрын
same i never had internet as a kid so i never knew about anything behind the scenes and thats what made wrestling so great for me but now i feel like its plagued and fans are always so angry and weird.. i feel it has something to do with having all this bts bs
@HelloAayush
@HelloAayush 6 ай бұрын
​@@XplicitTruth444 same
@TheMC1102
@TheMC1102 11 ай бұрын
I think the biggest issue was that Mistico insisted to be put on the main roster right off the bat. Had he spent some time in the developmental territory, perhaps he would've adapted to WWE's style of wrestling and wouldn't be known as a botch machine to this day.
@bernardosantosribeiro6665
@bernardosantosribeiro6665 11 ай бұрын
I think that himself mistico He didn't want to adapt, which is a shame because to this day he is excellent in CMLL, we are lucky that Dragon Lee and Santos Escobar adapted well
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
Thats not good
@bernardosantosribeiro6665
@bernardosantosribeiro6665 11 ай бұрын
@@MohdAli-sh3df In fact, this was Hunico , mistico went to AAA and adopted the character mystezys, which was also something that started out much more disappointing in the end because of the booking
@RobertJW
@RobertJW 11 ай бұрын
​@@bernardosantosribeiro6665They learned from Mistico's mistakes!
@bernardosantosribeiro6665
@bernardosantosribeiro6665 11 ай бұрын
@@RobertJW What mistakes?
@zeospark9715
@zeospark9715 11 ай бұрын
I still remember the match where he injured his finger and called off the match and a pissed off Del Rio kept attacking him because of that. Mistio I heard was quite unpleasant backstage rude towards others and refused to do any training
@charlottestreet3301
@charlottestreet3301 11 ай бұрын
If you injured your finger when in a wrestling match you should still continue the match
@riverds4925
@riverds4925 11 ай бұрын
Gee i wonder why he got signed to a racist company, got signed to a company that hired him for his talent then proceeded to not use his wrestling style which has most of his talent
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
Didnt happen of the year award
@RAD1111able
@RAD1111able 11 ай бұрын
​@@riverds4925You think performers are gonna learn a completely new style because of one guy?
@DaileyShorts
@DaileyShorts 11 ай бұрын
​@@georgewashingmachine6240except it did
@bernardosantosribeiro6665
@bernardosantosribeiro6665 11 ай бұрын
What most tarnished the mystic's career in WWE was his ego, he didn't want to adapt, but he forgot that only mil mascaras you win things by having a big ego in this business
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
Bad take, his ego was what made him special
@bernardosantosribeiro6665
@bernardosantosribeiro6665 11 ай бұрын
@@georgewashingmachine6240 No, I did mil mascaras special, with mistico he just got screwed
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
@@bernardosantosribeiro6665 yawn
@Promislandzion
@Promislandzion 11 ай бұрын
I always liked Sincara.
@RodDeWitt
@RodDeWitt 11 ай бұрын
Los nombres personales no se traducen papito, Místico no es "mystic", se escribe igual en cualquier idioma, "mistico"
@fawfulmark2
@fawfulmark2 11 ай бұрын
Sin Cara's final match being one where he tried to have the ref call it quits when he broke his finger.....right in front of Alberto "I one did a house show after getting into a knife fight" Del Rio is one that has gone down in infamy.
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
His final match was LEGENDARY. Honestly one of my all time favourites
@douglasdoyle8944
@douglasdoyle8944 11 ай бұрын
Kane originally wrestled with a red light on but it wasn’t for very long but technically had his own themed lighting before sin cara
@noob4head
@noob4head 11 ай бұрын
Still sad how he failed so bad because back in the day Sin Care and Rey Mysterio were my absolute favorite tag team.
@bryantvanamstelbiertje6048
@bryantvanamstelbiertje6048 8 ай бұрын
Rey? Don’y u mean Kalisto?
@vandangerousinc7001
@vandangerousinc7001 8 ай бұрын
@@bryantvanamstelbiertje6048He did team with Rey a few times.
@SwapDark
@SwapDark 7 ай бұрын
@@bryantvanamstelbiertje6048 the guy even shows them in the video ....
@trillbrandon
@trillbrandon 7 ай бұрын
Facts lol
@TheUrobolos
@TheUrobolos 11 ай бұрын
Sin Cara may had been a memetic failure, but that disaster of a sign was one of the key elements that eventually convinced Vince to greenlight Triple H's new vision for NXT: a developement brand dedicated to help indie and foreign stars to adapt themselves to the WWE style and with even English if necessary, before joining the big brands. Basically a "We dont want another Sin Cara case".
@bobby_the_ps2
@bobby_the_ps2 11 ай бұрын
Personally I love Hunico's run of the character as Sin Cara 2. Lucha Dragons are one of the most fun tags.
@ChrisTahji
@ChrisTahji 11 ай бұрын
Gotta correct you when you said WWE had never given anyone special lighting. When Kane debuted, he had red lighting in his matches for a while
@VolatileGuy103
@VolatileGuy103 10 ай бұрын
he was Kane.
@RyanKaufman
@RyanKaufman 10 ай бұрын
I'd argue that doesn't count because Glenn had been a few different characters. So when he debuted as Kane, he wasn't stepping foot in the WWE ring for the first time if that makes sense.
@ChrisTahji
@ChrisTahji 9 ай бұрын
@@RyanKaufman I'd counter argue The Fiend/Bray Wyatt who is in the same boat but got special lighting years after debuting
@MrManueldx
@MrManueldx 7 ай бұрын
​@@VolatileGuy103 I mean, he's gotta be
@tterminatormc4705
@tterminatormc4705 10 ай бұрын
To be honest I loved sin cara as a kid so much so I was so sad he wasn’t the next big thing because he was just cool
@markula_4040
@markula_4040 11 ай бұрын
Even if he never botched or got hurt one time, Sin Cara's WWE run was doomed to fail because he never bothered to learn English (at least that's what I heard, correct me if I'm wrong). How are going to connect with the audience if you can't speak their language? It's no coincidence that the 2 most successful Hispanic stars in Rey and Eddie spoke perfect English. Look how many other Hispanic wrestlers who are good in the ring but fail to reach their level of success in the states because they can't simply talk to the audience.
@rickyrodriguez5226
@rickyrodriguez5226 11 ай бұрын
The same way UFc fans get behind people that don't speak English, letting the work speak for him and with a charismatic translator would do wonders.
@Promislandzion
@Promislandzion 11 ай бұрын
I liked him.
@ioriyagami347
@ioriyagami347 11 ай бұрын
He couldve had a manager that couldve spoke for him...
@Rico401Prov
@Rico401Prov 10 ай бұрын
Even Alberto Del Rio had a way with connecting with the audience
@whovegas
@whovegas 10 ай бұрын
​@rickyrodriguez5226 Idk man, I don't really watch much wrestling, but when I do, it's usually involving more trash talk and personality work than actual wrestling. Ufc tends to be the exact opposite, at least to a casual
@tsurumichan
@tsurumichan 11 ай бұрын
The changing of lights for Sin Cara was to assist him to see the elements/help him pull off his extravagance. ie...he claimed he hit his botches due to the extra lighting. Considerable, the production for everything in the USA is different from the rest of the world, music, theatre, etc.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
Actually Kane had red lighting in his debut matches
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
Ok and?
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
@@georgewashingmachine6240 And what.
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD thats what im asking you, doofus
@Bsmith806
@Bsmith806 11 ай бұрын
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GODthat was actually really cool for Kane, suited his character so well in ‘97
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
He's one of my favorite wrestlers from the attire alone and awesome ring style when not butch
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
Hes so lame and so are you for liking him
@Alan-oj3ps
@Alan-oj3ps 11 ай бұрын
2011 was a complete mind f*** for me and the WWE. I really felt like guys like Christian, Mark, Truth were finally going to be main eventers for the next few years. Plus we had Karma in the women's division. And I really thought Sin Cara was going to be next major cruiser weight since Rey. All of that went down the toilet. And unfortunately 2011 was the last year I watched WWE full time since 1998. Not to mention my Bucs were coming off a 10-6 record the previous year. Then in 2011 they start 4-2 but end up losing the final 10 games leading to the head coach getting fired. Plus on my 25th birthday that year I spent the day with the girl of my dreams. However she ended up marrying someone else after she was done with me. Thank you 2011. You were my ultimate fake out.
@DaileyShorts
@DaileyShorts 11 ай бұрын
Just wait, there's more!
@DaileyShorts
@DaileyShorts 11 ай бұрын
It's funny how some year, in hindsight, have a running plot you just keep falling for. It's almost like it's the catalyst for growth lol
@CulEdz
@CulEdz 11 ай бұрын
2011 also had CM Punk’s hottest run. Christian was in the world title scene with that incredible feud with Randy Orton. It wasn’t all too bad.
@joshuaottley7902
@joshuaottley7902 11 ай бұрын
The amount of swerves in those stories, I thought your life was booked by Vince Russo.
@DaileyShorts
@DaileyShorts 11 ай бұрын
Let's see, my 2011 year, age 28.. Had my oldest son, still struggled w/ addiction issues but was close to pushing them demons down for good just didn't know it yet, and me n the lady (w lil man) moved from Toledo Ohio to Indianapolis for a year before moving again to st louis
@mercmenace9545
@mercmenace9545 11 ай бұрын
They were hoping and wanting him to be the next Rey Mysterio
@Milty2001
@Milty2001 11 ай бұрын
I remember me and my little brother watched wwe around 2011 to 2012 we were hyped everytime sin cara had a match because well, his entrance/ theme were great and his moveset was very high fly'ish I think the highest points of his time in wwe was when he had a feud against the sin cara imposter and when he teamed up with kalisto to form the lucha dragons, but after they were separated, he became a jobber.
@muhammadrouhan6121
@muhammadrouhan6121 9 ай бұрын
Man, sin cara had such great potential. He could have been portrayed as an high flying arch nemesis to mysterio and maybe even be a great heel.
@rickyeligio1674
@rickyeligio1674 11 ай бұрын
Mystico can be a dick, back in September me and a co worker went to a mexican wrestling show here in Tijuana, there was a line for people to take pictures with mystico and when my co worker went up to take a picture with him mystico slightly backed off and even asked him politely if he could sign one of his masks mystico said “I don’t sign anything unless if you buy one of the masks they are selling upfront” my friend looked sad afterwards
@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227
@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227 11 ай бұрын
Dang. I've never been to a wrestling signing before however I've seen some fans get their merch signed.I wonder if it was a contract thing.
@bogar1330
@bogar1330 10 ай бұрын
Probably, I watched him a couple days ago, he stayed for like another 30 minutes on the ring taking pics with everybody. ​@@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227
@elizabeth-lmhxmx
@elizabeth-lmhxmx 8 ай бұрын
Wow really? I went to see him in those Tijuana shows too a good 7 years ago in middle school and he was pretty nice, I think he signed my poster(?) but he was kinda picky, that really sucks for your friend!
@anthonylopez4386
@anthonylopez4386 8 ай бұрын
ssounds like a you problem
@ernestogastelum9123
@ernestogastelum9123 8 ай бұрын
it may be in his contract or his trying to avoid people selling the signed merchandise
@UNSAMU3L
@UNSAMU3L 11 ай бұрын
I miss Sin Cara tbh he was one of my favs at the time😭
@Goji73
@Goji73 11 ай бұрын
2:26 Kane was given this treatment early into his debut run. Most notably during his match with Mankind at Survivor Series 1997 had the entire match in red and black lighting
@mikeblue83ify
@mikeblue83ify 11 ай бұрын
He broke his finger and Refused to wrestle. Didn’t want to learn English and would ignore talent Would no sell and change spots And got kicked out of the locker room
@neverangel24officialytchan87
@neverangel24officialytchan87 11 ай бұрын
What’s so “talented” about WWE? 😂
@Moonlight52671
@Moonlight52671 7 ай бұрын
​@@neverangel24officialytchan87true. Try enrolling then an extra talented chap like you might be on the main roaster in a month(unless you think wwe might be too lowly for your divine heights)
@neverangel24officialytchan87
@neverangel24officialytchan87 7 ай бұрын
@@Moonlight52671 In English?
@poultry-lover6665
@poultry-lover6665 6 ай бұрын
@@neverangel24officialytchan87tf u mean bro? U realize all the badass back flips and carrying the athletes are super cool
@neverangel24officialytchan87
@neverangel24officialytchan87 6 ай бұрын
@@poultry-lover6665 Oh, I’m sorry! I thought you WWE fans hated masked wrestlers, especially luchadors and luchadoras. 🙄
@WalkBesideMe
@WalkBesideMe 6 ай бұрын
Mistico is still one of the best even now, still a massive star in CMLL and does the occasional AEW and NJPW appearance. Could've at least pointed that out
@AgentExtreme007
@AgentExtreme007 11 ай бұрын
Actually Kane had red light for his first few matches like vs mankind
@OfficialRukahs
@OfficialRukahs 11 ай бұрын
Please, the story of the 2nd Sin Cara is so interesting. Something about back in Mexico, Mistico (OG Sin Cara) took the name from Hunico, and then poetry wrote itself when Hunico took the Sin Cara name from Luis (OG Sin Cara)
@PoPMichalpl9
@PoPMichalpl9 3 ай бұрын
He was my favorite character back in primary school days
@warriorjgamer
@warriorjgamer 11 ай бұрын
Sin Cara today would have been a good fit in NXT and imagine him in a tag team with dragon lee or even axiom?
@Akane-Jinn
@Akane-Jinn 11 ай бұрын
I always remembered loving Sin Cara I was always so sad he never really went anywhere
@mindofball19
@mindofball19 11 ай бұрын
i think the biggest mystery is how he lasted in the WWE for like a whole decade
@IloveHotlineMiami
@IloveHotlineMiami 6 ай бұрын
This may be five months late, but I don't think the first Sin Cara was in the WWE as long as the second one. Also, he had some crazy merch sales.
@silverbane266
@silverbane266 11 ай бұрын
I didn't know about this. I loved Sin Cara at that time cause he was such a different face in terms of how he interact with people
@freddiejohnson6137
@freddiejohnson6137 11 ай бұрын
When the imposter Sin Cara ended up becoming the real one in the end it's kind of funny. It's like after Brian Lee played the imposter Undertaker he went on to become the character going forward. Ironically though his replacement had a much better run in the Lucha Dragon's.
@upthereds1892
@upthereds1892 8 ай бұрын
I liked sin cara but I was also a literally a child lol
@Spartan_9013
@Spartan_9013 6 ай бұрын
I never knew Sin Cara was Mistico till years later after his debut. I really loved watching him when he was Mistico. Very telented individual
@truenoong
@truenoong 9 ай бұрын
With Mysterio being my favorite wrestler, I loved Sin Cara when I was a kid. His whole character and the blue and yellow thing was such a cool concept. Unfortunate to know all of this now as an adult.
@DreFromMaine8472
@DreFromMaine8472 11 ай бұрын
I always preferred the Hunico version of Sin Cara. He was a lot better in the ring, plus he could speak English. I remember him talking backstage in an interview and Andrade coming in to challenge him and Hunico accepting. But he lost every match against Andrade, and then later on got released. Before that he was part of the Lucha Dragons with Kalisto and that was cool, I liked both of them. But Kalisto got released as well, I wonder what happened to him. The bottom line is that the original Mistico Sin Cara wouldn’t adapt to the WWE style, plus he wouldn’t learn English, and that’s why they replaced him. I still like Hunico as Sin Cara to this day, he had a good theme song as well!
@samdath3439
@samdath3439 11 ай бұрын
Wwe have a hard time finding another Rey mysterio.
@mrgonzale0978
@mrgonzale0978 11 ай бұрын
They still have a hard time. Even with Dominik being a fan favorite.
@canadianchaos1517
@canadianchaos1517 11 ай бұрын
The problem is there isnt going to be another Rey Mysterio. He’s one of a kind, and no one can truly do the same as Rey Mysterio did in his career.
@1KQ_
@1KQ_ 11 ай бұрын
​@@mrgonzale0978 no sorry, dragon Lee is well on his way to being the next Rey.
@mrgonzale0978
@mrgonzale0978 11 ай бұрын
@@1KQ_ I have to agree. Im still a fan of dragon hopefully WWE don’t screw this up. Rey misterio is one of a kind for Latinos everywhere. Is like the Mount Rushmore of Latin/hispanic wrestling first el santo then mil mascaras and blue demon and I will put misterio instead of any member of the Guerrero family or HOF Carlos colon.
@thegunslinger8806
@thegunslinger8806 11 ай бұрын
Mistico's WWE run was definetly what killed any hope of him ever having a career I'm the states, he just gained such a bad reputation from it that nobody wanted to hire the guy, not even AEW would touch Caristico these days but again it's not totally his fault, he wanted to be put in there with the main roster instead of going to FCW and learning the more fundamentals based style of wwe. Ironically the guy who picked up his gimmick should have probably been the real Sin Cara all along and should have gotten the push over him.
@Flame-lv4er
@Flame-lv4er 10 ай бұрын
Lol i agree
@ernestogastelum9123
@ernestogastelum9123 8 ай бұрын
your take didnt age well since he has wrestled in AEW 3 times and the fans love him. also he hasnt used the name Caristico for years now since hes back with the name Mistico
@claytonisgaming5170
@claytonisgaming5170 11 ай бұрын
I was kid when he was in the company I loved his design and moves. I don’t even remember his mess ups cause I loved the design.
@JacksonLane02
@JacksonLane02 11 ай бұрын
Feel like it went downhill when the moment the botches become more frequent which were so bad but so good. HBK vs Hulk Hogan Summerslam 2005 and Sin Cara in WWE are the godfathers of Botchamania.
@bernardosantosribeiro6665
@bernardosantosribeiro6665 11 ай бұрын
I think Shawn did that because he didn't agree with Hulk Hogan wanting to win the match or something like that
@tylerdurden788
@tylerdurden788 11 ай бұрын
​@bernardosantosribeiro6665 yup the kings of that doesn't work for me. Never been a michaels fan but i get this one.
@Dartingleopard
@Dartingleopard 11 ай бұрын
HBK v Hulk Hogan was on purpose, Shawn Michaels was ticked off about how Hulk Hogan politicked to change the planned feud to just a single match that he won instead of having them trade wins for a few shows.
@bernardosantosribeiro6665
@bernardosantosribeiro6665 11 ай бұрын
@@tylerdurden788 Post-Christianity Michaels is one of the best people in wrestling ironically
@IamLegendaryguy1998
@IamLegendaryguy1998 11 ай бұрын
you should make a video about the failure of del Rio
@therealhatchet
@therealhatchet 11 ай бұрын
Cultaholic just did that
@Champ1988
@Champ1988 11 ай бұрын
Also, he apparently didn't speak English and even the smallest miscommunications in the ring can be disastrous. Not to mention, it took promos out of his arsenal.
@kgaming9455
@kgaming9455 8 ай бұрын
I bought a Sin Cara mask as a kid I thought he was the coolest thing as a kid the look, the gymnastics, all of it I was sold man 😂
@poovanna4284
@poovanna4284 5 ай бұрын
Yes when I first saw him 10 year's old . First the hype they made i thought he is gonna be then next big thing
@camm2xx
@camm2xx 11 ай бұрын
Hunico's Sin Cara was far better. I hope one day he'll return hed fit in this LWO storyline perfectly. Mistico didnt want to adapt the to the US style of wrestling neither did he want to speak english. I feel the lightning and his mask played alot into why he botched alot tho.
@michaelcgreywolf2976
@michaelcgreywolf2976 10 ай бұрын
Man I can't believe it's almost been 10 years since he left wwe, man how time flys
@Stumpers24
@Stumpers24 11 ай бұрын
I thought Hunico or however you spell it, was a better Sin Cara than mistico.
@edmartinez925
@edmartinez925 8 ай бұрын
And he technically got even with Mistico. Hunico originally used that name "Mistico" and Mistico (or his real name Luis Urive) took that name from him.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
Hunico Counld of been a better Sin Cara or maybe he was, because he could actually talk
@typicallytalya
@typicallytalya 11 ай бұрын
They SHOUDLVE kept him to do so fr instead of dropping the character all together
@sx2ap
@sx2ap 11 ай бұрын
Kane had his own themed lighting for his matches when he first came to WWE. He wrestled in red lights for a little while before WWE got rid of it.
@fs_nokia7768
@fs_nokia7768 11 ай бұрын
Mistico career in WWE could not be the best, but in méxico, CMLL is one of the bests. I remember his fight style in the air was pretty cool
@realmr-hyde
@realmr-hyde 11 ай бұрын
I remember being like "how does he fucking jump like that into the ring?!?" And then I saw the trampoline and I was so disappointed.
@Jidds
@Jidds 8 ай бұрын
He came into WWE close to when I stopped watching but I never felt like he belonged he felt out of place for some reason. His entrance was cool and he had pretty entertaining moments but like you mentioned I do remember quite a few goofs
@leonshoyinka4540
@leonshoyinka4540 11 ай бұрын
They wouldn't allow him to keep his original style. Mistico is great but sin cara was a shell of his former self.
@jesusleyva4386
@jesusleyva4386 11 ай бұрын
He couldn't adapt. That's the difference between him and Rey. Rey was able to slow down his style to get great matches
@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227
@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227 11 ай бұрын
​@@jesusleyva4386 that explains why rey isn't as fast or agile like he was in wcw or in Japan wrestling. Makes sense buuuut I prefer my luchadors fast. They are alot more fun to watch when they go all out
@jesusleyva4386
@jesusleyva4386 11 ай бұрын
@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227 Rey has had so many knee surgeries, it's amazing he's still able to perform as well as he can
@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227
@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227 11 ай бұрын
@@jesusleyva4386 that is also true
@OctoberRust02
@OctoberRust02 6 ай бұрын
I can't help but feel that Sin Cara's failure in WWE was intentional. I feel that Mistico didn't even really like working for WWE, so he sabotaged himself so he could go back to working in Mexico.
@Raymund38TVM
@Raymund38TVM 5 ай бұрын
No bro, Sin Cara wants to work from the WWE bro even you're Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde. WWE is the biggest Wrestling Promotion you can earned Millions of Dollars to the WWE in just only a single matches performance. I think the only problem of Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde is he's injuries before he became a WWE wrestlers, like Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde said he is having a Major Back Bone Injury last 2007 during Mistico Ring Name and he can recovered 2008 due to a surgery. Then that injury cameback again and again when he performed a hard acrobatic stands in WWE. The last injury of Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde is he's broken fingers due to not right land properly. Usually it's happen to all Wrestler a broken bones that is normal to all Wrestlers.
@darius3261
@darius3261 10 ай бұрын
I can’t believe i forgot about Sin Cara. He used to be my favorite. I even had some knockoff mask of him I got from the pulga.
@PabloEscobar-yd8yc
@PabloEscobar-yd8yc 11 ай бұрын
Yea,I remember before this guy even had a match as a kid,there were so many ads playing of this guy while wwe was on break,and he didn’t even set foot in the ring either
@calebmaybin6896
@calebmaybin6896 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see a video on how Sami Callihan's botched baseball bat to Eddie Edwards' face saved TNA/IMPACT as their luck turned around after that.
@BuffedJoker
@BuffedJoker 8 ай бұрын
Sometimes I don't understand why wwe hires a wrestlers and then they don't know what to do with them
@thedreamsoldiers
@thedreamsoldiers 7 ай бұрын
Its sad. I used to stay up till 2am to watch mistico on telemundo. One of the best luchadors ive ever seen, second only to rey mysterio. Wwe should know how to handle mexican wrestlers by now
@daviskaedrick4830
@daviskaedrick4830 11 ай бұрын
I was just about to say I could’ve sworn he was in a team with Kalisto 😅
@terrordarky
@terrordarky 11 ай бұрын
a shame. i love luchadores and i'd love to see more of them in wwe.
@sse12345
@sse12345 6 ай бұрын
Sin cara got that potential to become one of the big names if only he learn how to speak English. The fact that wwe tried to push him says it all. Remember how excited i am with ny brother whenever i hear his name mentioned and how I always pick him in WWE 2k game
@i.hopeinJesus
@i.hopeinJesus 9 ай бұрын
Do one for Evan Borne!
@wesleypatterson2284
@wesleypatterson2284 9 ай бұрын
Man, I cant believe I never noticed SIn Cara sometimes had a tattoo and sometimes didnt
@PrinceLobo-es8kl
@PrinceLobo-es8kl 7 ай бұрын
the biggest reason for his boches was that mask had bad visibility and dark lightning doesnt help too,
@RevengerPhoenix
@RevengerPhoenix 5 ай бұрын
Also, a lot of wrestlers didn’t know how to take his moves. His matches with Sheamus and Christian are painful to watch, because they don’t understand the lucha style. They worked well with Rey, because Rey Americanized his arsenal and they worked a million times with him. Mistico was more pure lucha. But some wrestlers either were super talented to grasp lucha quick or trained in lucha. His matches with Cesaro were top notch and perfect. Heck, he even hit a flawless La Mística on TED DIBIASE OF ALL PEOPLE! I do believe if he was positioned to only wrestle guys who understood his style from the beginning, he would’ve done better. But oh well.
@bryce5134
@bryce5134 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great visuals to go with the video!
@bengrauartwork
@bengrauartwork 11 ай бұрын
what an oddysey of botches and pain. I remember hearing a rumor on Mexican masked lucha where a guy calling himself mightymouse wen around tearing up every new toon luchador mask he came accross. My fave masked luchador is Blue Demon sr.
@ponglenis9273
@ponglenis9273 11 ай бұрын
„Bro do you even botch“ Funniest meme back in those days
@Zxlxya
@Zxlxya 11 ай бұрын
His first two botches doomed him
@Shyberpunk
@Shyberpunk 4 ай бұрын
As a WWE girl, he was one of my favorite wrestlers him, cena, rey, and kalisto all were. It really hurt me when he didn’t really continue with WWE (I was 6 when he started out) lol knowing what we know now. I’m glad he was one of my celebrity crushes 😅
@JDHD99
@JDHD99 9 ай бұрын
Cara could barely see through the mask, he could speak English, he’s back in the AEW as Mystico and has had an interview where I’m pretty sure he’s speaking fluent english.
@StockImagesVoid
@StockImagesVoid 9 ай бұрын
I guess we can all now put that the allegations WWE made agaisnt him are fake. Shocking, coming from a human trafficking company.
@dexterwilliams2520
@dexterwilliams2520 5 ай бұрын
You can have "Cara could barely see through the mask", but 10 years ago he not only didn’t speak English but outright refused to learn it. He was a prima donna who thought being Hulk Hogan popular in Mexico meant he was entitled to the Hulk Hogan treatment wherever he went. His disastrous WWE run that tarnished his reputation north of the Rio Grande humbled him, and it was being humbled that allowed him to grow into the pretty good Mistico you see in AEW a decade later.
@MitchellBay
@MitchellBay 11 ай бұрын
the trampoline was the craziest shit about him to me
@beastmangaming3424
@beastmangaming3424 9 ай бұрын
Love him or hate him I don't care sin cara aka mistico will always be my favorite luchadore
@dr.loomis4221
@dr.loomis4221 11 ай бұрын
I think the biggest problem was that Místico insisted to be put on the main roster right off the bat. If he spent some time in the developmental territory, perhaps he would've adapted to WWE's style of wrestling and wouldn't be known as a botch machine to this day.
@Miniduck9013
@Miniduck9013 10 ай бұрын
The one with the bird tattoo was quite good in nxt I wish he would’ve got a push just to see what he could do on the main roster
@ioriyagami347
@ioriyagami347 11 ай бұрын
Part of the prob in this is WWE is too strict on moves aswell
@BobbyAlejandro21
@BobbyAlejandro21 10 ай бұрын
Communication is key when you’re in the ring. His lack of it caused most of his botches throughout his career
@georgewashingmachine6240
@georgewashingmachine6240 11 ай бұрын
Dude! Sin Cara was SUCH a FAILURE in WWE! Nice video Greg and Tom!
@Comfortablyhighx
@Comfortablyhighx 8 ай бұрын
Sin cara was the wrestler that could’ve been 😞 will always be one of my favorites
@TheVampirePredator
@TheVampirePredator 11 ай бұрын
"They never had a wrestler who had came in and had their own themed lighting for every match" Kane says hi.
@xjvghxst535
@xjvghxst535 10 ай бұрын
Still remember as a kid before his debut when they were hyping him up
@DarthSidious.
@DarthSidious. 11 ай бұрын
When Kane had his own light he was a god sin cara was also a god when he had his own lights but as soon as they lost their power the lights fades away
@RiruKrypto_
@RiruKrypto_ 11 ай бұрын
It looks like they only build Sin Cara to be an attraction, I never had those expectations up him being a main event but at least a mid carder and in a tag team.
@ShadowThe771
@ShadowThe771 11 ай бұрын
It always seems like WWE has been trying to find the successor to Rey Mysterious for years. From Del Rio to Mistico to Kalisto to Andrade to now Santos Escobar.
@edmartinez925
@edmartinez925 8 ай бұрын
Seeing that the original Mistico version of Sin Cara is 1 inch taller than Rey Mysterio while the Hunico version is 3 inch taller than the original.
@thegoat2874
@thegoat2874 11 ай бұрын
I miss when wwe would sign people they would do those vignettes
@BGoa-ki5pr
@BGoa-ki5pr 11 ай бұрын
Thanks to the infamous storyline of WCW, we all knew how Rey mysterio looks like. We know who's behind the mask. Whereas Kalisto and sincara we don't know who's the real guy and we will never when rest of them will be replaced . Dont know who's real who's fake.
@Antwuantheone
@Antwuantheone 8 ай бұрын
Seeing how well he is now i definitely blame wwe for the mask but also from what ive seen there was indeed a communication error between sin cara and bookings not only that they didnt let him do his own style
@ultramanlo9991
@ultramanlo9991 7 ай бұрын
Pushing Sin Cara was phenomenal. Triple h pick the right guy to be the next Lucha Dor and Rey mysterio. However it failed. I love Sin Cara, he should become either United States champion or intercontinental champion and feud some people who were former US and intercontinental champs.
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 11 ай бұрын
The matches could be exciting and high-action........but it didn't work out for him.
@brydermckee2556
@brydermckee2556 11 ай бұрын
i was 11 when i watched Sin Caras debut on smackdown and in fairness i didnt notice any botches 😂 you see a cool mask highflying moves and youre good. think you have to be an adult fan to catch that kinda stuff
@Max-c2w
@Max-c2w 7 ай бұрын
Please do KALISTO!!!! Haven't seen him for a while....
@shaneoleary9919
@shaneoleary9919 11 ай бұрын
He was amazing wrestler
@hamdanali2036
@hamdanali2036 10 ай бұрын
2:30 kane did when he debuted. his first few matches were under red lights.
@Izen0
@Izen0 10 ай бұрын
wtf is boching imagine using this word knowing many viewers arent natives
@rileyanthony
@rileyanthony 11 ай бұрын
The second one was even worse he had so many back stage fights I’m sure I’ve even had backstage fight with him to also there is a rumor that sin cara number 2 through a soda can at Simon Gotch one half of the vod villains In black and gold nxt
@lysandersantos8222
@lysandersantos8222 6 ай бұрын
The moves the sin Cara did was hard I definitely understand the botches
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