The Fall of Chris Stuckmann

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[@MrDmerch17]

I don't expect a critic to be positive or negative. I expect them to be honest.

[@MellowMutant]

true

[@AbrasiousProductions]

that's exactly what I am :)

[@JayVaters]

I agree

[@bobbyfischer9927]

How was he not honest? He said he didn’t like the film. He just didn’t trash on it. You think your comment is smart but it’s LAUGHABLE

[@sashaking1115]

Yeah!!!

[@kyleVanZan]

Just some constructive criticism, work on your editing. This video could’ve been about five minutes, but you reiterated the same points about 1000 times.

[@FromMagic]

You just don’t understand how yt algorithm works, he makes drawn out videos cus longer watch time makes it more likely to pop up in recommended, I agree tho bro waffles a lot

[@DrSpaceman42]

@@FromMagicyeah but if watch time and retention drops after a couple of minutes, the algo takes that into account too.

[@virginnocence]

​@FromMagic he's gotta make those minutes engaging though. The parts where he trails off and rambles without substance really hurt an otherwise good video

[@brycehammerton4542]

@@FromMagicyeah but then people won’t subscribe or watch future videos if his videos are bad

[@cakeandicecream1582]

Haha! Boom! Roasted!

[@Bornz0r1337]

I don't believe this video needed to be 22 minutes and 39 seconds.

[@Buttington_Headerson]

how long should it have been? 14 minutes and 24 seconds? 9 minutes and 41 seconds?

[@Bornz0r1337]

@@Buttington_Headerson Something like 5 minutes should have been fine. He keeps repeating the same words again and again. No idea if he's trying to stretch the video or he's having issues concentrating to make a point and advance what he's trying to say. Maybe it would help if he prepared a script before recording.

[@Bornz0r1337]

@@honesthughie Upset?

[@ccxxtream]

@@Bornz0r1337I don’t think he’s upset, you put an opinion out there and I think someone’s just trying to have a conversation about it. I agree though, definitely drawn out, especially the first 5 minutes. Most of the ppl who click the video probably already know Chris stuckman so idk. Definitely could have been like a 10 or 15 min video

[@Bornz0r1337]

@@ccxxtream No I genuinely think they are upset. I offered constructive critism and the response I got out of them was "you do a better job then haha".

[@adam3647]

00:00 The Rise of Chris Stuckmann 16:39 The Fall of Chris Stuckmann

[@armtv]

nice. thank you

[@itsdabees]

Yeah over half this video is fucking nonsense no one came for

[@bimbettocavallo]

Thanks so much

[@comment_deleted]

Thank you!

[@safehaven717]

you know it’s bad when the meat of the video that’s a little over 20 minutes long starts nearly 17 minutes into the video

[@flagrantlyvivid7195]

He realized that he wouldn't make it in the industry that he's currently trying to break into, if he burned the bridges he was hoping to cross.

[@InstitutoYeBrasil]

This is is the most obvious reason and one he would t obviously make clear, but this dumb ass in the vid can’t consider that he has bigger ambitions than making yt videos

[@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0]

EXACTLY!

[@millyoneyedeaz1350]

plus, he realized that its alot harder to make a film than criticize one. Experience has a habit of giving you more respect for the field

[@IllusionSector]

And if his decision to stop criticizing and instead start _"celebrating"_ cinema was a sneaky attempt to soften would-be critics towards his own movie, boy is that going to have the exact opposite effect. 🤣

[@Cheesefist]

Rodger ebert and Gene siskle I would say proves that you don’t have to sell out to make it in the industry.

[@QuothTheRavenclaw11]

Chris Stuckmann is a good guy, and I hope he is successful in fulfilling his dream as a film maker, but his channel isn't fun to watch anymore. There was so much passion and love in every video. I even loved the Halloween specials he did with his wife. Now he's just mundane, because his fear of being rejected by producers is so great. I think he feels bad bashing people because he now understands the movie-making process, but that shouldn't stop him from critiquing.

[@NeeNee_B.]

Perfectly said

[@Jacques.Smith_]

That's exactly what happened. What's even worse, is that he doesn't get anything from the Hollywood machine and he's still afraid to speak his mind.

[@nickm8874]

People constantly confuse somebody who is “soft” with being “good.” What makes him a good guy, exactly? Turning round and slapping the faces of his loyal followers because being a talentless hack who got lucky isn’t enough for him and he has this weird fantasy of being a Hollywood player?

[@adamshows1142]

I honestly can’t blame him if that were the case. I mean, of course, there’s nothing wrong with critiquing as it can make you learn from films and inspires you with your own work.

[@fillah4910]

I think it's more because he's not young anymore, i don't think it has to do with him become film maker, i watched his videos and he changed the way he talk way before he become film maker, he used to talked energetic but now his grown up he more calm, but he's still honest.

[@fonziegoebel6114]

I watched Chris Stuckmann from 2014 to about 2022, I thought it sucked when he decided to stop doing negative reviews, I stopped in 2022 because now when he talks about movies he has less energy and just sounds so boring

[@JayVaters]

He’s become super boring and dull. He just wants to be a filmmaker but he’s stuck doing KZbin still and you can tell his heart isn’t in it anymore.

[@MiikaKontio]

Yes I agree. I kind of lost interested in him in that point too

[@dnasty312]

Opinion of Mr. Harper?

[@licey71]

Poor you. Must be terrible.😢

[@thevagabond1314]

Yeah well that’s probably what’s gonna happen when you enter parenthood dude… you’re gonna have less energy

[@conormurphy4328]

So glad Walmart Christ Stuckmann could be here to review Chris Stuckmann

[@jobantwisp6060]

😂

[@SHWMEURLITENINGBOLT]

💀

[@BlueRagtop]

When Chris's Madame Web video appeared on my Home page a couple weeks ago, I clicked on it, thinking that maybe he was actually going to do a critical review. After watching a minute or two, I saw that wasn't the case and turned it off. I then realized that, though I still subscribed to his channel, I hadn't watched a video from him in quite a while. Seeing a Chris Stuckmann thumbnail was all I needed to know about his thoughts on the movie (i.e. he liked it); I'd rather spend my time seeing what other people thought. And so, I unsubscribed from Chris that day. It wasn't in protest or to "punish" him. I just realized that I had no use for a movie review channel that didn't actually review movies.

[@bobbyfischer9927]

Your comment is probably the best and most thoughtful I’ve read.

[@huhulalammm]

"I clicked on it, thinking that maybe he was actually going to do a critical review" - so you dropped him because his opinions was not what you wanted it to be? you can just record yourself and listen to it again and again. why would you want to listen to someone else? Madame web was bad. that's it. the whole internet is talking about it in the same angle. Chris talked about it from a different angle. Hollywood has become commodified. art has become commodity. the art aspect has been reduced, it happens when artists need to please the shareholders. Chris talked about it. what's so wrong with it? I guess if Chris was speaking like every other critic next door, the things we want to hear, he wouldn't have lost so many subscribers. much like Hollywood and the audience itself today. we want to see different stories, different/ new IPs, different perspectives. but as soon as holywood throws it at us, it becomes a box office failures. Chris should have talked about us audience too. how we have become zombies. whenever we will see a Marvel/spiderman tag we will throw our money.

[@brett661]

you watched a minute of the video and because stuckman didnt have the same opinion as you and didnt pretend to be angry at the film you clicked off and unsubbed. That is so typical of childish terminally online wierdos living in their little bubbles

[@ScrimpBoat]

@@huhulalammmthe point is he didn’t really have an opinion…. On a movie review. Are you dense? Like do you not understand what people have issues with?

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

So you didn't want to bathe in a KZbinr repeating the same emotions that you had during the time? Isn't that a bit of a stupid thing to want?

[@johnnybutler4465]

I stopped watching Stucky when he all but praised The Last Jedi and Disney's Star Wars Trilogy. It seemed like he was just kissing Disney's... It felt dishonest.

[@toxicchatman8975]

I want Chris Stuckmann from 8 years ago to interact with the present version of himself

[@WilloftheFans]

Old Stuck would crucify new Stuck

[@KahlessTheUnforgettable]

@@WilloftheFansSure would! I can see it now “How dare you grow your subscriber count, make your own movie, get married, have a child…” 🥱

[@seanc9520]

He lived long enough to become the dragon he tried to slay years ago.

[@JazziG59]

New Stuckmann has an actual neckbeard and looks like he’s constantly squinting.

[@miri745]

I think the present version would ask the one from 8 years ago if he thinks he should ruin his chances of becoming a serious film maker by burning bridges left and right so he can continue doing reviews on youtube. Then the Chris from 8 years ago would probably say fuck no, do you.

[@HULKHOGAN1]

Chris Stuckman very intentionally chose to appose critique as a defence mechanism for when his movie comes out.

[@I_Shit_on_your_shit_point]

100%

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

I did watch that video he said he couldn't said bad stuff anymore because he was now filming a movie.

[@LucasR013]

Exactly right

[@TylerNorCal]

Absolutely the exact reason

[@TimofeyMarko]

Love the guy. Always thought this.

[@g-dog_eswshockwave]

He said that his channel is now a “film appreciation” channel, and won’t talk negatively about films. Funny, because I had a class in 10th grade conveniently called “Film Appreciation”, and even we talked negatively about film sometimes. Also, he thinks that studio interference is the reason why a movie is bad. So are we just going to ignore movies that had no studio interference & still sucked, or movies that were even good because studio “interfered”?

[@chasehedges6775]

You should be able to call a good film good and bad film bad, IMO

[@chasehedges6775]

Even we talked negatively about films sometimes. Exactly.

[@JayVaters]

You’re speaking pure facts man

[@liamrush96]

You are all missing the point he clearly hates the film and rather than turn on the directors etc which I don't agree with but craps over a studio which is the kind of people he wants to be employed by.

[@guerillawhite3083]

I mean, every film is gonna have some level of "studio interference." it's a lazy cop out nonetheless.

[@tristanhartup4936]

One thing I've just realised about Chris, it's evident back when he made his video about his Jehovah's Witness past, I think it explains perfectly this anti-negativity anti-criticism mentality over the last few years now, it was staring me right in the face and only now have I just noticed this, to put it in simple words.... Chris Stuckmann is very sensitive soul, I know it sounds weird but it makes sense when you think about it, it's very clear he's someone who cares about what people think about him and he wants people to like him, this probably comes from him growing around the type of people he was once associated with who told him what to do and what not to do and how other people reacted to him and this lifestyle, and he desperately wants to change this around and rectify it.

[@twinnnola2318]

Nah it's because he's a manipulative ass wipe who simply used his viewers to be able to get to a level of popularity where he can make his own movie which he now has and doesn't want anybody to shit on his film like he's been sitting on other people films for years

[@michael-4k4000]

That's why I'm a Scientologists

[@eduardof631]

​@@michael-4k4000 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@GLASSB182]

Dude I totally see that, well said

[@robyee3325]

I think because he’s the biggest review channel, KZbin or Disney asked him to go easy on the shit blockbusters

[@classicgal9619]

I miss his hilariocity reviews. 😂

[@JayVaters]

Me too

[@Sure_Sir]

That's when I lost respect for him. When he decided to cancel that segment, cuz now he's a filmmaker.

[@aligmal5031]

@@Sure_Sir "filmmaker"

[@The_Thought_Exchange]

@@Sure_Sir I can’t wait until those review hit KZbin it’s gonna be an entertaining week

[@The_Thought_Exchange]

That’s how I found home The happening one. Also he should private them and not make money off them if he thinks honest criticism is so bad now

[@devanworkman8745]

I don't use the term sellout often, but Chris Stuckmann now is a sellout.

[@dboygamer8184]

Ever since he started producing Shelby Oaks he got super soft.

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

​​@@dboygamer8184Are you sure he's just not acting like a KZbinr? When you make a film you get a whole new insight into just how tough it is to make films. I'm a filmmaker and the idea of a critic resorting to "this is a PEEPING PILE OF GARBAGE" is just outright fucking dumb. It's lower common denominator shit. Idiots being either SUPER HAPPY or SUPER ANGRY towards a film. No one talking about what the film is trying to say. The punchline to the joke is that there's no such thing as a good or bad film. It's not a thing that's possible. It's literally a subjective medium and good and bad are objective terms i.e. they cannot exist in the format.

[@Mopark25]

​​​@@TheFlash-rh2elOf course there's good and bad films. There are objective rubrics with which we can measure quality, even in art. That's how I can say No Country For Old Men is objectively better than The Room. We can do mental gymnastics to say "But I think Tommy Wiseau is a better actor than Tommy Lee Jones, it's subjective!" And I can point to objective measurable qualities of Jones performance, such as pacing, line delivery, abiltiy to emote, etc What do you think they teach in acting classes? If everything is subjective then there's no framework with which to improve, right? How's a teacher going to instruct if they can't determine what's good and bad? I do agree with the rest of your post, films should be judged on what they're trying to achieve. But even that's measurable. We can disagree on the measurement, but you'll have to argue for that, and you do so by logical assessment. And no amount of argumentation is going to convinve anyone that The Room is a better film than No Country. Hence, objectively better.

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

@@Mopark25 As far as your comment goes, it is civil, which is rare for KZbin, so thank you. The issue with film being subjective is that I can use the subjective of the creator of the film - or one of the creators - whenever a person tries to use a film's reception as a reason for it to be known as good/bad. There can be a beautifully shot, edited, scored, acted, directed film that's morally bad. What then? Usually the technicals mean nothing in comparison to the moral decay that's on display during the film's screening. And, because film is subjective, I have to say "usually." As far as The Room Vs NCFOM goes: it's your word against Tommy Weisau's and it would only end in a draw. As far as the rest of the world goes, unless you can get me 7 billion opinions - and those opinions stay the same until all of those people are dead - it won't matter.

[@daredevil6145]

His *Hilariosity Reviews* and *Analyzing Movies* series are Great and still entertaining to watch anyday anytime. That was what made me watch him in the first place. Not that now

[@AbrasiousProductions]

be honest, Chris Stuckmann was never great, nothing about him has ever been great, he was probably born a nebulous mediocrity ridden human being.

[@JayVaters]

Yeah those were his best videos

[@TaxinGigs]

Hilariosty was his best

[@MrLopez2004-t9x]

My favorite Chris Stuckmann video is his Emoji Movie review because of that intro lol

[@JayVaters]

Yeah that was a fun video

[@ErikCB912]

I liked his Fant4stick review

[@MrLopez2004-t9x]

@@ErikCB912 Oh man 2015 was Stuckmann's best time in my opinion. His Mad Max: Fury Road review was my favorite review he did in that year

[@samgibb-randall5743]

Somehow this video proves Chris’ point. The internet only knows how to hate on other people while hiding behind its collective screens. He isn’t being dishonest in his reviews, he’s just reviewing movies he likes. And he still gets hundreds of thousands of views.

[@colleen4ever]

But parr of being an honest critic is you have to review the BAD movies too!

[@mrddcass6540]

Nah, being a critic isn't about hating.

[@lulukazhila6309]

How is this hating? It's just someone sharing their opinion that's obviously contrary to yours. He's not being disrespectful. He made some valid points. You can disagree with him without unnecessarily calling this 'hate'. So people should be afraid to disagree because they are going to be called a 'hater' or their opinions dismissed as 'hate'?

[@MidTierVillain]

@@lulukazhila6309exactly, it seems ppl just want positive, and if you have anything that is a negative critique? Keep it to yourself, unless it’s about something we all agree is terrible.. There is absolutely no hate in this video, at all..

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

Ever since his 2017 best of the year list he just has not been the same. Even before he quit doing negative reviews there was just something about him that just felt off, his personality nowadays feels incredibly dry and stale, he used to have this sort of childlike enthusiasm and he used to light up whenever he talked about movies what are those are movies he hated or loved.

[@JayVaters]

Yeah his passion has gone away

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

@@JayVaters also I think you made a great point in bringing up Roger Ebert. Because Stuckman looked up to him so much, I mean he literally did a tribute when he died over 10 years ago now. Ebert had a great relationship with Scorsese, and Spielberg, yet that didn’t stop him from criticizing their work and I need harshly. And Ebert himself was involved with the screenplay for beyond Valley of the dolls the Russ Mayer movie, yet that didn’t stop Gene Siskel from absolutely tearing that movie to shreds and giving it his absolute lowest rating. So it seems like Stuckman doesn’t understand the importance of criticism and especially negative criticism. And I can say from my own experience I think negative criticism really helped me, I would’ve never learned proper punctuation or how to read and write without my English teacher harshly critiquing me. I think what’s really going on is that Chris does not handle criticism very well but as we’ve seen, and so he feels that he would be hypocritical to criticize other filmmakers for their work when he himself he can’t take criticism. And there’s nothing wrong with wanting to have a more positive outlook when doing film criticism. I think Austin Burke and Sean Chandler are perfect examples of that.

[@MellowMutant]

well said

[@AbrasiousProductions]

Chris Stuckmann?... enthusiasm? that's a good one!🤣

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

@@AbrasiousProductions just watch some of his older reviews.

[@danjensenmovietalk]

How dare someone do whatever they want to do on their own channel despite what people expect of them. What an outrage!

[@eraserheadpossum]

I know. These comments are embarrassingly parasocial and making an issue out of nothing. If you don’t like someone’s content anymore, unsubscribe and move on.

[@danielabeckham7397]

I think that’s actually the point. Lots of people don’t watch him anymore because he doesn’t give us what we like. It’s his prerogative to do that but also ours to decline watching. He got famous for the Hilariocities. Can’t really be surprised when you cut those out and lose a majority of your views 🤷‍♀️

[@licey71]

Funny thing is these cry babies are booing because he won’t do hilarocity anymore. That’s the one thing I NEVER watched and did not care for but I did not mind him doing those. To each its own. Watch what you like and don’t watch what you won’t enjoy. Like any of this is meaningful anyways.

[@JW-dp4we]

Lol what majority? His subs and views are still excellent and he’s getting a movie made with Mike Flanagan. I don’t think the 10 people who are mad about hilariocities being gone will make much difference. Clown comment.

[@hgaleano96galeano52]

Yeah i never cared for the hilariocitys. I just like movies so I watched him to get content/info about movies. I don’t get people’s fuss about the negative reviews. I’m guessing alot of people are not really into movies like that but just like hearing people shit on movies

[@WalterJHuaman]

TLDW: Stuckmann is too nice and doesn’t go as hard as before This channel is clout chasing by creating controversy where there is none

[@trekgreenwood6743]

It sounds like Chris is scared to give negative criticism to movies so that when people see his movie and say it sucks, he can have that moral superiority. Like "Hey I don't say anything negative about movies cause they're hard to make. And you shouldn't either." It's just stupid.

[@jaylenthomas8997]

100%. U hit it on the head nbs

[@He-Man00]

This is exactly why. Remember when he did that BvS script re-write? His response to the hate was patHETIC. He is obviously scared of that happening again, and I for one can't wait

[@alexmini123]

I stopped watching him because he started sounding more and more Petty and assholish the more subscribers he got, like, he was so unfairly critical about many movies but now that he's making one he realizes people might not like it. Making a movie is hard, making a good movie is way way harder. Hope it bombs

[@bryan-twistgilmore6473]

I still respect Chris stuckman. I don’t always agree in the way he judges the movies. But I still think he is a good reviewer and I am interested to see what he does with his new horror film.

[@Romans8-9]

💯

[@omariwalker1006]

He has become a father in recent years. He's likely trying to be more positive for his family's sake in my opinion. I think that's quite respectable,

[@zackwalker1721]

in the mid 2010s there were attempts to bring expensive television style productions to the world of online film analysis. Turned out that the people who attempted that much growth were overreaching a bit. No trouble. The online film community soldiers on. When those shows like Collider were a thing though, it was inevidably the case that the on camera talent had producers in their ear, restricting what they could and couldn't say. Not a good thing by any mreans, but it's the nature of a larger production. Did that detail about these productions really warrent Red Letter Media doing there whole Nerd Crew thing, where they repeatedly commited 20 plus minute acts of unadulterated mean spiritedness, punching down at people less popular than them? I only bring that up because I never knew or cared about the personal lives of the guys behind RLM but it was when I saw that that I started to take for granted that they must all be single and childless. (though that's just an assumption and I could be wrong) Sure it's fun to have countless strangers who don't know or really care about you validate that sort of thing, but do you want any child of yours to see you act that way?

[@tekkenchampion832]

Totally agree with both of you

[@I_Shit_on_your_shit_point]

Seems to be working. No negativity coming his way. Wheres that asteroid we were promised?

[@Memorial24]

Then he should just review movies he likes rather than making whiny videos about why he doesn’t want to give something a negative review

[@I_Shit_on_your_shit_point]

@@Memorial24 or shut his channel down and stop earning money via scumbaggery

[@jackoconnor5590]

This is really going all over the news even after the whole fiasco.

[@J-V89]

What fiasco?

[@jackoconnor5590]

@@J-V89 Madame Web!

[@TheDoctor10.0]

I used to love Chris, but if a review doesn't tell you anything about the movie then it's not a review. I don't want to hear how the studio tried hard, i want to hear if it was good or bad and why.

[@patrickkelmer6290]

I first found him in late 2015 when I found his review of "Pan", and I subscribed him shortly thereafter. I watched almost all reviews he came with afterwards, and would also stumble on older ones. His hilariocity reviews were among the best though. Then I noticed a shift that to me, actually began in late 2019, when The Rise of Skywalker came out - I think the thing that bugged me was that he seemed insincerer, like both his face and his voice did not match what he was actually saying. Anyway, I would then say that the biggest shift came in early 2021, during the corona winter, when he made that video on why he (understandably) left JW, also because his sudden coming out as pansexual came rather completely out of nowhere. Later that year, he then came with the video on his upcoming movie and the announcement that he never would do a negative review again. At first, I could kinda see where he was coming from, also because I myself helped make a short film in university - but the more I thought about it, the less sense it made to me. And I noticed from then on that his reviews became....boring. Like they didnt even say anything. And that not!review of Madame Web just seemed so ridicculous and pretentious at this point, and I think I lost the remaining respect I had for him then.

[@saulsilver5753]

Everything went downhill the moment he said he was making a "movie".

[@jassykat]

this is nonsense. He is a director, so he has empathy for other directors, he's saying that it's not their fault. It's that so controversial?

[@nathaniel311]

Then he can’t be a critic, a critic is supposed to be an unbiased journalist/reviewer of a movie.

[@jassykat]

@@nathaniel311 I guess so, but if I remember correctly, that video in particular wasn't a review.

[@trustme2001]

I didn't even know he fell.😂

[@Brownaut1993]

He didn't. His channel is doing pretty good

[@Leprutz]

He didn't This is just clout. Cause Social Media feeds off of clout.

[@danilecashin4126]

Once he stopped grading the movies his content has gotten worse

[@stopculture]

Stuckmann is a filmmaker now. Apparently, at least. It makes sense he doesn’t want to shit on a bunch of other peoples’ work if he’s in the industry.

[@isaaccrist8642]

I agree. He’s a film critic that doesn’t wanna be a film critic anymore- he wants to be a filmmaker. It’s like when celebs talk shit but won’t name names because it’d be inappropriate and unprofessional, Hollywood’s a small place, it’s a game and Stuckmann’s playing the game right or wrong

[@babyfacek]

A guy says he doesn’t want to talk negatively and people dislike him for it smh. Society is cooked man, there are 10000 places online to get negativity let him be himself.

[@ShadowMan64572]

The problem is he confuses criticism with negativity.

[@JohnDavidSullivan]

Yeah this just sounds like gaslighting to me.

[@lancekemal8989]

Na your just ignoring the real issues people had with him

[@Richie7788]

He took that “turn” because he is now making films himself and doesn’t want the criticism back. Really corny honestly cause if you go back to to the Batman v Superman script he wrote on twitter he got majorly clowned for it and then proceeded to make an entire video on how it wasn’t “serious “ or whatever about it. Basically, he wants to make films that only get praised like no dude people are going to give you criticism no matter what

[@Leprutz]

Exactly. My words.

[@philipsteeleofficial]

One thing I think people aren't seeing is Stuckmann is still giving honest opinions on the movies he chooses to talk about. If you watch any of his recent videos he does in fact raise negative issues with aspects of movies he discusses. The main thing that seperates him from most other reviewers is his choice to not talk about movies that he doesn't like or have any interest in, because that isn't what he enjoys doing. In the case of Madame Webb, he doesn't deny that the movie is bad but he focuses on issues he calls out with Sony and other Hollywood producers. There are plenty of videos from other KZbinrs criticing the movie and he chose to add to the conversation rather than repeat what so many others had already said

[@theshadowbeast13]

The thing with me is that it seems like now that he is close to releasing a movie himself he NOW is preaching about not giving movies a bad review. Just seems like he wants to make sure he doesn’t burn any bridges

[@miri745]

Well done captain obvious. Might not wanna burn bridges in the cut-throat industry he's trying to get in on.

[@siriusakari6729]

The internet is a very toxic place and I do not see why people are outraged that Chris Stuckmann is not giving negative reviews. Maybe it is because he is becoming a filmmaker himself and understands that their is a lot that goes into writing, producing and directing movies. It is his channel and his choice if you want dragging in the mud movie reviews then we all know the channel of that annoying Mr. know it all insufferable Scottish drinker who seems to be getting all the praise these days.

[@laurisaarinen1126]

But it's a very different thing being honest vs just shitting on movies. There are many channels who only focus on the negative, Chris was never one of them.

[@PohjanKarhu]

If he better understands how film making works that means he should be able to more correctly and more nuanced criticize movies. Criticism doesn't mean dragging something in the mud. I'm a former actor. Just because I know how hard acting is doesn't I now shouldn't criticize acting. No, instead, becauase I know how acting works I'm actually more critical. Not negative. But I can criticize with way more knowledge and nuance. Without criticism people won't be able to learn and grow and make better movies.

[@randomfractal4164]

He's still giving negative reviews, but now he does it positively.

[@Ausf.D.A.K.]

I can't stand this politically correct coward.

[@BRONZALiVE]

His Batman and Robin hilariocity he did with The flick pick is one of my favourite videos of his I remember watching that with my friends and we laughed our asses off, that’s what I loved about the old Stuckman and why I don’t watch him anymore, I do appreciate how he has matured and still makes some good informative videos, but I a lot of it now feels sanitised which sucks, KZbinrs like critical drinker are what Christ stuckmann used to be and even if he doesn’t want to be that openly honest with film, he can still balance criticism and the fun of that with positive and nuance, but he can do what he wants to do, it just sucks because most of us don’t really watch him anymore

[@JayVaters]

Yeah he’s just not the same Chris Stuckmann anymore which is fine but that’s why people left his channel though

[@stevenvegh7964]

Critical Drinker definitely replaced Chris as my favorite YT film critic.

[@NebLleb]

@@stevenvegh7964 Critical Drinker is an Anti-SJW Grifter. He's not good at all.

[@d3rrick10493]

I can't stand Critical Drinker anymore either though. He hates movies without even watching them because the second he sees anyone who isn't a straight white dude, he either won't review it if it's good, or he'll ish all over it because it's bad because of "the message", which he just whines about constantly. It sucks because like Stuckman I used to like him, until he got too into the smell of his own farts and started posting the same videos over and over because he thought that's what worked.

[@stevenvegh7964]

@@d3rrick10493 or Hollywood keeps making the same shit. Lol. I truly believe CD just cares about good film making and doesn’t care who inhabits the role as long as it’s good story telling. The point he and many others are making is that these filmmakers are intentionally sending a message with casting choices and story decisions, in service of influencing society instead of just telling a good story.

[@jimmynorton1001]

Not sitting through 23 mins, later

[@SlimNilez]

Your mom was dumb to sit through 9 months. What a waste.

[@JM-pm1yb]

Not trying to defend Chris or anything. But, I don’t think he dislikes negativity in general. He just doesn’t really want to be that person anymore. I don’t think he’d go back to his older content and hate who he was….is what I mean

[@Robertlee123]

I don't think that he is afraid to bash movies that suck, I think that after making shelby oaks he now understands how difficult the movie making process is. I think that it made him humble about critisum.

[@Da_Publick]

Right, and now he's afraid to critique movies that suck.

[@Robertlee123]

@@Da_Publick its about respect.

[@RedMoonSolitary]

There's a difference between being ' humble ' and just not having an actual solid opinion. He doesn't actually make the latter anymore.

[@Robertlee123]

@@RedMoonSolitary like I said I know that he could rip movies apart if they are garbage, I think that he is holding back because he realizes that it just not polite. However if you watch his latest movie reviews he's speaking his mind he's just not being very harsh about the things he don't like about movies. He us growing as a person. Life is about learing and growing. I think that Chris is very intelligent, he there are movies that I have seen that I didn't even like until I heard him do his review if the movie. He had me look at the movie through a different lens.

[@Da_Publick]

​@@Robertlee123He wouldn't want critics to savagely pick apart his films now, would he? And they may be more capable than him.

[@MrLopez2004-t9x]

Chris Stuckmann was the first video movie critic I ever watched in 2018 and I never watched any video reviews before that. Most of the time, I'd just look at ratings from movie sites like Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb, but Chris Stuckmann's videos helped me realized that the overall critical reception of a movie is more than just ratings.

[@AbrasiousProductions]

I am so sorry that your first experience with this community was watching his bland ass.. my reviews aren't perfect but I've always been an honest critic

[@klass_1221]

2018? Try 2012. 😂 I remember him starting out. He's has "evolved". Stuckmann and Jeremy Jahns have been mainstays the past decade. If Chris wants to concentrate on "film celebration". That's his choice. There are other "film reviewers". I don't see the big deal about Stuckmann not reviewing movies/series "negatively". He said his channel is not about "reviews" anymore.

[@BlazingOwnager]

RT outright rigs reviews and has been caught doing it. I wouldn't use them. I'll always laugh at them locking Rise of Skywalker's "verified reviews" at 86% like 4 hours after the movie came out and then never moving it. I like Stuckmann's contemporary, who only got better with age, Jeremy Jahns. I still watch him.

[@a.nobodys.nobody]

​@@AbrasiousProductions what are 5 movies you enjoy that give a taste of your tastes.

[@AbrasiousProductions]

@@a.nobodys.nobody Shaun of the Dead (2004) Labyrinth (1986) The Dark Crystal (1982) How To Train Your Dragon (2010) Rango (2011) those are my top 5 favorite films of all time, all masterpieces or nearly :)

[@domarealhumanbeing]

The downfall of a guy with a loving wife and 2 kids and an upcoming crowdfunded movie!!! Be serious guy.

[@Romans8-9]

And 2 million subs. lol

[@himynameischrisAVA]

Wife and 2 kids but still wants to eat some shaft on the side. He’s a nonce

[@levi6270]

Wow.. you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. He literally said two years ago that he will no longer be a formal film critic before because he's going to be a filmmaker himself

[@sophieknobloch2806]

Before I came across this video, I thought that I was the only one who felt this way! Everything was on the mark. I checked out on Chris Stuckmann because everything that made that channel fun was zapped out cold and it was constant rants on him making a movie. The quality of his review went down. He was mostly throwing expletives for awhile because he didn’t seem into it anymore. Okay if you take away what I subscribed for then I’m tuning out.

[@LoztkozL4M]

Now you get to be a hater that will review his movie that got picked up on NEON. You will still be here being a keyboard warrior

[@BoilingKoolaid]

He is also reviewing from the POV of a person who has been through making movies and has a new perspective. It’s easy to hate on stuff when you can ignore all the effort that goes into making it.

[@Colin-kh6kp]

Rooster Teeth shut down when their abuse and wage theft of employees surfaced, for which they acknowledged guilt and apologized, not because they went woke or whatever... "Following Jenzen's message, numerous other former employees spoke up about their experiences working at Rooster Teeth, adding more accounts of unpaid work and discriminatory abuse while at the company.Rooster Teeth then released a second statement apologizing for harmful behaviors, listing changes made since 2020 including the introduction of pay bands and the replacement of the entire Human Resources department" - Wikipedia

[@claudenoriega6898]

“The downfall” and it’s about a guy who rose to success and got to make his own movie. Lol.

[@buckb6976]

I searched Liminal Spaces and the results were this and handful of videos on Stuckman vs RLM. The algorithm is in a mood today.

[@paisan8766]

This video is basically: Why did Stuckmann have to mature!? Why did he have to focus on his dreams and actually begin to have success!?

[@abrahamgn3614]

Lol you're a meatrider

[@brandongers]

“Identity politics killed rooster teeth…” k. Tells me everything I need to know about you and not to give two f**ks about what you have to say.

[@biguy617]

My favorite critics are Jeremy Jahns, Double Toasted, and Dan Murrell. There are other critics I watch but those are the main ones I like.

[@Butwhythough881]

Huzzah! A man of quality! If you like Double Toasted, I recommend Chris J Herman. He’s done stuff with Korey and Martin but he’s got his own channel now and made a pretty solid response to Stuckmann’s Madame Web video

[@JayVaters]

I’ve always enjoyed Jeremy Jahns

[@veemon9280]

Double toasted videos are too long. There's too much rambling in their videos. If they learnt to make their points more concise 🤏 it would be better.

[@kacem1784]

chris stuckmann is the definition of wokeness

[@patrict527]

Chris Steckman is the guy who does house appraisals now of film. He doesn’t get on his knees and go inside to inspect the home (film).

[@NoFuqinIdea]

This is probably the most boring Drama I've ever heard about. Dude just grew out of it.

[@thegamingcook785]

I mean he made it clearly what his channel was all about now. If people failled to understand, they clearly are just believing what they are seeing on the internet, fake fans of Chris, just hating for views, or genuinely just idiots. The past 2 years he's been honest. Just grow tf up. All you people bashing him, are doing the exact thing he doesn't want to do anymore

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Don't bother with close minded people Let them vent. Cause that's all they have.

[@undisputedalan4774]

He’s rackingggggg in the views fall of Stuckman my ass

[@TheFamousLoser]

This isn’t a downfall. It just sounds like he chose a different direction for his life. What’s the big deal?

[@Moshuun]

That it comes off extremely bias, now that he’s getting into the industry as a producer. He’s made fun of countless movies in the past, and all of a sudden, he’s making a movie now, he doesn’t want to critique movies negatively, anymore.

[@Leprutz]

@@Moshuun Can you blame him? He want's to keep his possibilieties open. I wouldn´t dare shiting where I eat.

[@altair1514]

@@Moshuunlike being professional?

[@Moshuun]

@@altair1514 no, it’s not being professional. Just temper down the disrespectful stuff. But to act like no movie/director can be criticized is just ass kissing. AND, he’s ONLY doing so, because he’s in the space now. It’s dishonest.

[@Moshuun]

@@Leprutz so, you walk around calling someone terrible at their job, now you work with them and now, you no longer have an opinion on them? ALL OF A SUDDEN. Because they’re paying you. That’s fake.

[@gangstagnome]

Chris is beyond KZbin criticism now. He's an actual filmmaker now who has seen how hard it is for people to get movies made and how much work one has to put into making one. He's been put in the shoes of filmmakers bad or good and that gives him more merit than any of you losers in the comments

[@Rnerdy197]

Yep most people that criticize movies haven't spent anytime working on a movie have zero idea how hard it is

[@I_Shit_on_your_shit_point]

An actual filmmaker? Because he said so? Hasnt been released and it remains to be seen if it is simply a piece of kickstarter funded trash or not.

[@Memorial24]

Being a film maker doesn’t change the fact that his reviews are all dishonest now

[@Rnerdy197]

@@Memorial24 you really think he's dishonest thats the kind of immature crap that makes criticism not worth listening to this person liked this movie they must have gotten paid

[@Rnerdy197]

@@Memorial24 he doesn't flat out say madame web sucks so that now makes all his other recent reviews dishonest 🤦

[@waltergold3457]

Chris Stuck-Up Man - no room for the little people in his little world! I never wanted to get Stuckmannized. He was always egotistical. And perhaps his downfall isn't coincidental with that of Hollywood, whose franchise rot is clear to anyone with eyes. He's caught between perfuming the reeking corpse and keeping his own credibility, and he can't do both.

[@cheerfuljuan]

well this video aged poorly

[@mephistro]

When he was praising The Dial of Destiny I knew Stuckman had jumped the shark and the heyday was over.

[@singingchef23]

I own Dial of Destiny on 4k and so does a fee friends of mine. I can do without the girl but outside of her the film is solid. I wasn't in love with him going back in time but it's a fantasy film, it's not nearly as bad as the hate it gets.

[@mephistro]

@singingchef23 That's cool that you liked it. I did not enjoy it at all. And in fact, I really haven't liked anything Disney has done. The plot was very contrived. Not only that, but I've been following the filming of it up until it was released, and it was common knowledge that she was gonna take over as Indiana Jonah. Thank God it was leaked and partly why they did so many reshoots.

[@stevenvegh7964]

I used to love Chris so much. He was so enjoyable to watch because he was an honest lover of film, and I found myself in line with so many of his movie opinions. He was balanced, honest and passionate. Now he is stale and you watch him and get this feeling that you can’t trust him because you don’t know what kind of ideology he had to filter his thoughts through before releasing them.

[@KTF0]

I stopped watching Stuckman not because anything he did or didnt do, I just stopped watching critics altogether. I noticed that it doesn't sway my opinion either way especially now you can recreate the theatre experience in your house. Theres no longer an investment watching a movie. Put it on, if it stinks, turn it off.

[@delbroox]

I don't understand the hate for this guy. He makes video reviews...That's his channel, he knows that some people will stop watching him, but there's still plenty of peole following him, so I don't see where the "fall" is. I still enjoy and watch his videos, and honestly i see his point in not wanting to talk shit about other people doing the job he's trying (and close) to achieve.

[@IJohnSmith]

The fall is in his integrity as a so called “film critic”, when you attempt to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one

[@delbroox]

@@IJohnSmith I mean you might not like his choice, but I would not call that "lack of integrity"

[@Jackrabbit7]

His reputation has kinda gone down the toilet

[@Jackrabbit7]

@@delbrooxIt’s not just that his reasoning is questionable

[@IJohnSmith]

@@delbroox I’m not saying one’s personal dislike is a lack of integrity, its the simple fact that he no longer reviews films unless its a positive review as he doesn’t want to step on anyone’s toes in the industry he’s attempting to launch a career in. I’m not even someone who wants to see him unnecessarily bash films, but he absolutely self censors now that he’s trying to be a filmmaker.

[@Joshtodamav]

Yeah, I loved his older content & you could feel that he was still a "fan". His journey into the commercial side of movies has jaded the content's perspective and he just doesn't feel like "one of us" anymore. That's just the content; he still seems like a nice guy, and I'm very happy he is now doing what he's always wanted to do. He still has the occasional great video, like his Halloween specials; but his timidness to critique anything wrong with modern cinema just leaves a bad taste in my mouth when watching his movie opinions.

[@TurfShifter]

Wow. That was a pointless video. Jealous much? And why was the video so long?

[@Scrummy64]

Honestly I think a lot of people are just overthinking this whole situation; whatever profession you're in, it's always bad form to talk smack about your peers, and if Stuckmann makes it as a director, these filmmakers will be his peers. That's really all there is to it in my mind. Also, as far as I'm aware he's purposefully stopped calling himself a "critic" so there's literally no problem with the direction he's taken, it's just not the direction some people wanted from him

[@abstractjwl806]

The moment stuckmann started lying to his audience, he lost them.

[@gamestream2k983]

20:01 ChrisStuckmann-2.04M subscribers Jay Vaters-4.99K subscribers 🤔

[@franciscoantonio5306]

This dudes been irrelevant since he gave Disney Star Wars positive reviews.

[@Sean-132]

I don’t trust people who hate Disney Star Wars I always find them to be good 👍

[@kokomanation]

I think he is an amateur reviewer not a professional like Mark Kermode for example.He is not able to describe the reason he likes or dislikes a film in a way a film expert would do

[@MellowMutant]

I never watched a ton of his videos but whenever I did, I always enjoyed his perspective and insight about the good and the bad in films. You make great points about the importance of film criticism. Also, ever since he announced he was actually making his own movie, there's been this sense he's walking on eggshells. He's definitely changed, and I've lost some respect for him. I hope he finds his way, but until then, I won't be a viewer of his videos anymore.

[@Romans8-9]

I like his feature presentations because they are typically movies I also like.

[@mmpnguyen]

I don’t mind it tbh. I think people can grow and evolve their channel; some will make a separate spin-off channel while others will just mold what they got. I enjoy listening to him simply talk about movies and filmmaking. But I also see why people are leaving

[@CzarsSalad]

This is how to get views. Upload a video talking about a famous content creator

[@jeremy2394]

I feel like since he wants to be a filmmaker he doesn’t want to burn bridges with other makers for his future? Idk that’s my take away

[@sumbohdee2luv]

i kinda find chris pretentious but at the same time disagree with this hate against him. yeah you’re right its lame to be a review channel and not give negative criticism and his channel is falling, but at the same time if this is what he wants to do, he should do it. he doesnt owe you anything, if he’s lost the passion for his past style of videos, he shouldn’t have to do it. also you can’t both accuse him of sucking up to studios and also only criticizing the studio and not the filmmaker of madame web. also youre complaining that he only makes youtube videos now for income and not passion, but you’re literally using his name to drive views to this dragged out 20 min video? let’s be real you’re not passionate enough about this subject to want to make a video about it for any other reason than capitalizing on his clout. you’re acting like he’s robbed you of something you enjoy, there’s so many other channels out there bashing movies, you’re not being denied anything, you have no emotional investment in this other than wanting to milk the drama involving a channel bigger than yours. you’re really gonna pretend he was doing a public service by negatively reviewing movies and without that the people won’t know whether to spend money and time seeing a movie? gtfo to be clear i’m no lover of stuckmann, i think it’s so pretentious that he brings up the fact he made a movie at every single opportunity and i fully expect Shelby Oaks to be terrible. but at least he is doing what he cares about and has more integrity than people like you.

[@PaulLeach123]

Liked Stuckman. Saw his short film. It was absolute trash. I realized this guy knows nothing about film and never watched him again

[@josalc84]

Down fall? Chill.

[@seanpyne592]

How is the fall of......lol the guy just changed a little bit he still does he reviews just not as much, I watch 18 min of you to get to this point blahhh

[@selinakyle2368]

Jeremy and Chris are not real film critics. Mark Kermode is the best film critic since Ebert.

[@CBright7831]

Thank you. 👏 Jeremy’s personality has always hit me the wrong way.

[@markgilbertjr413]

They make a living critiquing movies. Just because you don’t like someone, someone’s opinions, or someone’s presentation style, doesn’t make them not a “real critic“.

[@Sainte305]

I'm not familiar with Kermode, will check him out I guess. Most critics nowadays exaggerate points in a film to exploit their opinion for more validity. Jeremy does this a lot, and I like his videos. He will take this one moment or story bit and criticize the hell out of it and then I'll watch the film and think, wtf is he talking about. A perfect example of this would be his review of Iron Claw.

[@kevculmstock1]

Who the fuck is Jay Vaters?

[@RickS2369]

You want to ruin him because he made one video not wanting to bash Madam Web? It wasn't a good movie, but there were a lot of anti-woke people trashing the movie. Maybe that's why Stuckman didn't want to criticize Madam Web because he didn't want to be a part of the hate. And that probably led him to not want to negatively critique movies anymore. I doubt it has much to do with kissing up to producers.

[@collinsmcrae]

I don’t have a problem with it. Once you actually start creating stuff yourself, in my experience, you inevitably become less critical of other artists. For starters, you gain a good deal more insight (usually realizing just how fucking hard it is to produce anything that is good) and now have to contend with the notion that your own work is going to be judged now. I use to be far more opinionated about and would shit on other musicians and comic books, as a form of recreation, before I attempted to make my own music and comics. It may prove tricky for Stuckman to try and have his cake and eat it to, but I hazard to guess that he’d greatly prefer to be a filmmaker than a KZbin critic, so he’s probably hoping to be less concerned about his channel dipping at some point in the future. Right now, he’s obviously trying to hedge his bets as his first film could be a complete bust, but there’s only so much he can do. And he may genuinely have come to have a change of hearts regarding being overtly negative about films he doesn’t like, and it’s perfectly fine for someone to change and mature over time. Sure, the timing is a bit convenient, but that doesn’t mean that his filmmaking endeavor is his only reason. He may legitimately just not want to put out as much negative content anymore. I’m fine with that.

[@Mottenfest]

You made a 22 minute video called "The Fall of Chris Stuckmann", and you're really gonna come in at 19:52 saying you think he's "probably a real nice guy", like it just excuses the other 21 minutes of you slagging on him for being successful doing what he's always wanted. Bless your heart.

[@ashrafabdillah5369]

People still treating him like a film critic is the problem. He stopped. He said so. He's a filmmaker now. Any "reviews" that pop up are just movies he likes and wants to talk about.

[@kevinstafford8347]

Does anyone here know what happened to the Campea Exposed channel? Haven't seen them in awhile and can't find any of their old videos...I know that has nothin to do with THIS video, but I didn't know where else to ask.

[@Deadpool784]

It's back

[@wilpuriarts5895]

I used to watch Stuckmann years ago because I wanted short and spoiler free reviews, but something about him always bothered me. I think he always felt kind of fake to me (the laughter was always fake and forced) and RLM situation really showed how prickly he is/was.

[@davidlangheier250]

What really pissed me off more about Chris Stuckmann was his review for Dial of Destiney. I have no F'in idea how he doesn't hammer down how awful that movie was unlike Jeremy Jahns. I got attacked by his fans for stating my concerns for that movie on IG and this was the same guy who took issues with Crystal Skull.

[@elpoodoo3099]

I call it toxic positivity.

[@Romans8-9]

He said he liked Crystal Skull at first and took him some years to realise it was mediocre, I suspect it will be the same for DOD.

[@davidlangheier250]

@@Romans8-9 I still have issues with Crystal Skull but wasn’t expecting much from it accept a decent ending to the character. But DoD was just a complete setup for some other unwanted character to just ruin the legacy who already had a happy ending and didn’t need anything after

[@Romans8-9]

@@davidlangheier250 I agree DOD was worse, I didn't even finish it.

[@lundbergdrums6642]

Nah. I still watch Chris and haven’t ever thought about him being bad since before you brought it up. Always excited for when Chris uploads. Chris Stuckmann in my ❤

[@Nionix123]

I don’t think Stuckman only making positive reviews is bad, it’s just that he makes positive reviews on bad movies for clickbait He also has a clear conflict of interest being a person who both make movies and critiques movies too (he needs studios to give him opportunities to make his movies)

[@Sung_Jam]

Why did you make this video so unnecessarily long though? it could have been done within 5 minutes or at least 10 at most

[@LaurenMiddleton28]

Stuckmann admitted he's actually Gay but then had 2 children with his "Wife"😂

[@honeybadgerjay1724]

He's like Maestro "IM RAINING IT IN!"

[@mikeadams7904]

Pansexual I think. He never revealed being gay

[@GoranKlintenheim]

I totally agree with you one every point in this video. I also un-subscribed. BUT, you say it yourself, he can do whatever he wants with his channel. And you’re right. One should never do KZbin based on what someone else wants. And people change through the years. So do we as subscribers. He changed. It’s up to us if we want to follow him with the change or not. I jumped off but I still respect him for what he did 👍

[@xlordlocustx]

No matter what you think of Chris and his channel, at least he didn't make a 22 minute video trashing someone else to piggyback on the persons popularity for clicks.

[@gimbur6921]

If anyone asked why the video had to be long, it’s because the KZbin algorithm if people watch the whole video for about 10 minutes or more then more likely to pop up in recommendation, feed, etc.

[@taydestiny38]

It’s crazy because his channel was one of the first I followed, when I first caught on to KZbin. And I have fond memories of his past videos. However, once he became “woke” and got on his soap box about criticizing bad movies, I quickly unsubscribed. It sucks because he used to provide great criticisms, that sparked intelligent debates in the comment section.

[@virginnocence]

I wouldn't even call it part of the "woke" trend. This is a whole new beast of submissive and fake

[@gunnonbass2052]

He hasn’t fallen ANYWHERE. Who the hell does this guy think he is??

[@Knockout5111]

A guy says he wants to move away from negative movie review content and stops making negative movie content. A dude whose whole channel is negative(your channel) makes a video criticizing a content creator who simply doesn't want to make negative content anymore. You don't see how stupid this is? Aren't people allowed to grow and change? They need to always be the same, always stick to the same views? Keep being a Drama/ negative film channel. You can do whatever you want and cleary there is a audience for it, but its what you want to do, stop going after people for doing something different. Be your own person, and stop getting mad at others for changing.

[@thewhitematstudio]

No

[@mrddcass6540]

Sounds like you're getting upset that this guy is criticizing a critic who isn't criticizing anymore. Strange.

[@Knockout5111]

@mrddcass6540 is it? Maybe it's to much for you