The Fallout From the PK Subban / Max Pacioretty Captaincy Vote | Habs Tonight Ep1

Georges Laraque seeks clarity from Dale Weise about the circumstances leading to Max Pacioretty's captaincy and the associated fallout between PK Subban and the Canadiens management. (***speculation warning***)
The relationship between PK Subban and the Montreal Canadiens management.
What happened with PK Subban and the Montreal Canadiens management?
What happened between PK Subban and Max Pacioretty?
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[@amsro9094]

Patches should not have been Captain, broke his mind, too much pressure. Subban was never going to be captain, way too excitable. Markov should have been Captain, he was already our general!

[@amsro9094]

@Steven Pleky would have been fine too. But I disagree with your language reason for Markov, his English is actually decent. Here's two interesting quotes from therrien. "I'd prefer a player whose actions speak for themselves on the ice. In Pittsburgh, I gave the title to Evegeny Malkin in Sidney Crosby's absence. Not only does he speak very little, he doesn't even speak english." "I'd have no objection to seeing Andrei Markov become the next captain of the team. What you are looking for first and foremost is a player that leads by example on the ice and shows up every game." I still think with markov as Captain would have been the ideal future.

[@HabsTonight]

After Lou wearing the C it was going to be a tough sell

[@amsro9094]

@@HabsTonight do you think Gallagher could be the next C ?

[@amsro9094]

@G-i No great habs leader!

[@sunrisevideo7687]

@Steven lol. Well he is somewhat bilingual « un vert ver vers le verre » Gallagher is such a hard worker, he is always the go to guy to lift them out of a rut with his heart, perseverance and tenacity getting the ugly goal to turn the tide.

[@GF-wi6qi]

This channel is already awesome!

[@HabsTonight]

We agree !!

[@mackmercier9814]

Man I am loving Weiss, and all of the guests they've been bringing on #TechSavvy

[@jimarcher7665]

I am not a PK fan, but I was when He hit Marchand with his ass LOL

[@alliedseawindvoilier2394]

I was there and the roof of bell center liftup !

[@DrewDekes]

Hahaha underrated comment 😆 One of the top 5 PK moments 100% NO-ONE hit him harder to this day that I know!

[@TheFoolintherainn]

Well there's no teams who want to play with or keep PK Subban. But there's plenty of teams and players that would be happy to have Brad Marchand.

[@ginomafio9601]

It's so crazy...has a young black man when I was at school they use to call me a negative leader just because i was questioning things when it didn't make sense for me. PK Subban in the comments is being called selfish and flamboyant because he has personality. Whenever a black man is not a yes man he's a problem.

[@HabsTonight]

Based on what we have heard from players he was a great teammate and extremely hard worker.

[@brodemanhessianovski6922]

@@HabsTonight these two comments made my week lol . Good stuff

[@davidfraser3170]

I’m

[@TheFoolintherainn]

Yep . I was waiting for the racist stuff to come in here - you must be a racist if that's the way you're looking at it - no team keeps him, he doesn't get along in locker rooms - has nothing to do with his skin color. It's the same thing I told my kids: A jerk is a jerk - it's an equal opportunity label But I hope you felt better pointing out someone's skin color - revealing the fact that's what you notice & your prejudiced! It's amazing how you people don't even see how you tip your hands - it's very offensive to black people that you're whipping out skin color when you're supposed to be judging people by the content of their character PK Subban has a well-known reputation for not getting along - but now he can count on snowflakes like you to give him excuses for his behavior.

[@bijness2000]

Great show!

[@chrisxavier3147]

It was such a shame that Subban was traded, perhaps he would have had a hall of fame career if he stayed

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

You're a comedian! It was crystal clear that PK had already reached his peak and left it behind him by that point. He played two more solid seasons with the Preds after the trade, after which he was very much a has been, still in his 20s. Trading this dressing room cancer was genius and got Montreal a Captain with a capital C, to lead them to within three games of a Stanley Cup.

[@Edwardo485]

To bad things turned out like they did for PK Subban. He played with passion for his team in montreal I used to think what if they named him Captain of the Montreal Canadiens! the Buzz in this city 🐝👏 and also his wonderful contribution💲with his name if they had named him Captain mrs. Beliveau would have been 😊😊 ❤

[@HabsTonight]

A lot of love for PK in the Habs Tonight community.

[@TheFoolintherainn]

PK Subban is a jerk. Seriously. There's a reason no team will keep him

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

It's no secret that PK's flamboyant antics weren't popular among the players in the dressing room. Unfortunately he was cancer and I was very happy to see him go. It was clear by that point that he wasn't going to get anywhere near Norris status. Interesting how that trade turned out, with Subban playing just one year more than Weber even with a four year age difference. Vegas is paying Weber until 2026. One of Bergevin's high points with the organization.

[@dub16100]

Subban is not captain material. Even if he was/is the best player on a team he was never captain material. And I like the guy.

[@HabsTonight]

Was beloved in the locker room.

[@sanschagrinm]

still better than max paciorretty lol

[@dub16100]

@@HabsTonight Bit of an over-statement. He, clearly, was disliked by some teammates through the years.

[@trevornott2488]

That’s a flat out lie. He’s been despised by teammates everywhere he’s been

[@jivan9649]

@@dub16100 ok so you know...

[@seancreswell89]

maybe he didn't inform Molson and MB what his intentions were. Dale, if you knew why weren't you there to support him?

[@kalemacpherson2270]

We all know Carey is the real captain

[@HabsTonight]

In many fans hearts, yes.

[@jivan9649]

Yak

[@144wychwood]

Pacioretty was not captain material and neither would Subban if he was named captain. Takes certain kind of temperament to be captain that I don't believe neither of them had. Being star player of team should not automatically make you captain. Bobby Orr as great as he was not captain of Bruins.

[@jjodoin05]

La Prairie golf course 🙌

[@daveyboy_]

Patch has the personality of a dead fly

[@nickgritz1188]

Let’s be honest , a management that chooses a coach based on the language he speaks over a coach that is better for the team says a lot. Subban was great in Montreal but he was too much for management too handle. There was no way in hell they would make him captain even though the fans loved him. Obviously in the dressing room , things were different.

[@HabsTonight]

There are clearly factors that play into readership selection that are specific to the Montreal Canadiens.

[@Gradd123]

Like there's no good french speaking coach...

[@4inchesofpleasure]

Sincerely hope you are not a fan of this team. If you are, shame on you for not understanding the fabric and the history of the Canadiens. This is OUR team. Always has been. You anglos can root for it but you need to understand what it represents to us francophones. Plain and simple. If you’re a fan, go read about the team’s history, its debut. See maybe if there were another hockey team in town at the time. Canadiens means Québécois, hope you know that. French canadians used to call themselves Canadiens long before “English Canada” had heard of the term.

[@nickgritz1188]

@@4inchesofpleasure “OUR TEAM” ..typical quebec racist comment. That way of thinking is why this city is crumbling and finishing last in economic growth. Do you know that English business men started the team? Do you know that English business men owned the team? Maybe you should re-read the history of the Montreal Canadiens and figure out what the hell you are talking about . The team is loved by both anglos and Francophones across Canada. You don’t have to be French to be true fan. Your statement is Ridiculous.. My point was not to put down any French coach but when a organization picks based on language as a first criteria , we as fans have a problem. French or English , pick the best person for the job, period! Since you are being a dick and say you know your history, let me enlighten you and all the douchebags who think like you. Of all 24 Stanley cups won by the montreal Canadiens, do you know 19 of them were won by English coaches? And ..almost all general managers from that era were English general managers. Look at the stats since serge Savard . How many cups ? Only 1 since 1993? How many were French coaches and general managers from then until now? ...Almost all except Bob Gainey.. It’s nice to love the Montreal Canadiens and have the blinders on. The real Quebecois Canadiens hockey fans know exactly what’s going on .we have been seeing it since 1993.. All others are too ignorant to admit it. Sometimes yo7 have to swallow your pride and pick the best man for the job. Even if he is English..

[@4inchesofpleasure]

@@nickgritz1188 “A suggestion from Gardner that the team be named Le Canadien and stocked entirely with french speaking locals was greeted enthusiastically by O'Brien”. This is OUR TEAM. This team was meant to reflect francophones. And you think that an unilingual head coach should be behind the bench? “Off the ice, using his promotional knowhow, Kennedy helped ignite French Canadian nationalist sentiments, stimulating competition between his club and the Wanderers, which greatly helped to increase the number of spectators in seats. In essense, Kennedy, a sly Irishman, helped forge the team's soon to be termed "Flying Frenchman" identity. “ This is the history of the team you root for that you seem to ignore. I don’t have a problem with an anglophone coach like Scotty Bowman who spoke french fluently. And I wouldn’t have a problem with the Habs hiring a new coach who didn’t speak a lick of French but promised to make an effort and learn the language as a way to respect the fans, which, like it or not, are mainly french speaking. Marc Crawford did it in Québec. It is about respect. Learn your history. we are Les Canadiens. There was a very clear divide early on between the Wanderers and Les Canadiens. There was a linguistic divide. And cool of you to shit on Québec with your Anglo-centric imperialism. We are a fucking minority and we have a right to hold on to our patrimoine. Anyone is welcomed to join us, but who the fuck are you to judge how we do business. Fuckin’ A we’re gonna protect our team and be respected. Like I said, if Gerard Gallant is willing to learn the language if we hire him, sure, go ahead. Why not. Why do you root for the Habs if you hate Québécois and our history and pain. Pick up a book mate. Seriously.

[@appletile2887]

Montreal mismanagement has sunk this club to where it is. 9 years into a 5 year plan....Firing a competent coach to cover up an incompetent GM.

[@rebeltvr6046]

This didn't age well.

[@rbh9216]

LMAO

[@iansteelmatheson]

@@rebeltvr6046 yes it did.

[@rebeltvr6046]

@@iansteelmatheson No it didn't. Habs went to the Stanley Cup Finals last year. That's what matters. Now time to rebuild.

[@Jessdes15]

​@@rebeltvr6046 they never belonged there Bergevin is still garbage any success he had was due to having an amazing goalie

[@qualityman1965]

This was a big mistake. Markov should have been named captain.

[@HabsTonight]

A lot of fan respect for Markov.

[@malmn]

Disagree with Laraque. What PK Subban does on his personal time had NOTHING to do with the Canadiens. The Canadiens need to get over themselves and not look to capitalize off of the good deeds of its employees.

[@BruceConnors2029]

Aaron Amadeus! It’s stinger from ITR bro

[@MB-wo8ie]

Dale was Pk bag holder

[@HabsTonight]

They are friendly, if that’s what you mean.

[@kakeych]

Any truth to the alleged Michel Therrien saying "Pacioretty's the worst captain"? Taking into account it was coming from the unethical pundit Michel Villeneuve.

[@HabsTonight]

No idea, sorry.

[@leslucas]

Hah management buried this franchise with their delusions of grandeur

[@malmn]

100%

[@silviocommisso2471]

The captain should have been either markov or plecky never max. snipers snipe, there not leaders

[@HabsTonight]

Too many examples of elite goal scorers who were good captains.

[@jivan9649]

@@HabsTonight paciorattey is not one of them and never was. He was a lost kid with serious mental disabilities. That Chara check really changed him

[@lanterisalvatore6692]

As long as therrien was behind that bench subban would never be captain . Was subban such a bad player ? I’d say No but he was quite eccentric for the whole organization I liked what he did for the children’s hospital loved what he did for those kids

[@andrewwills8516]

2 locker room bumbs

[@mrdave4714]

PK's decision to make that donation was his own choice, it had nothing to do with the Canadiens...this is why no management or coaches were there.

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

I agree. It wasn't a Montreal Canadiens event. It was a personal matter.

[@Hommoursporc]

''I dont think there was a wrong choice'' but let just bring back this 6 years old story and make drama with it.

[@Hommoursporc]

@Steven simp? lol if you say so. Sorry if my opinion hurt you. Hope you’ll get better soon.

[@Hommoursporc]

@Steven yeah sure

[@ricosuave8123]

If PK was such a revered guy, how ironic that he wore out his welcome in Nashville in a short period of time. Too much hype. Great skill once he made the team in Montreal, but he was not the same player (skill wise) in Nashville. I think it hurt his ego immensely when he was traded out of Nashville. To end up in New Jersey is kinda sad. I always thought he *might* come full circle and play one final season in Montreal. But not with Bergy still in as GM. No way.

[@sloburnjo]

Georges mini braids / dreads is a poor hair choice. 😉