The False God of Jehovah's Witnesses

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@aaliyahyoung1542 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for all that you do! You are doing amazing work! May God bless you!

@cicelyryan4402 Жыл бұрын

This is so good! Thank you.

@aaronwood8012 Жыл бұрын

What they worship is the watchtower

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

just your false opinion. Jesus is NOT God himself. Hosea 11:9 states "For I am God and not man,The Holy One in your midst;" GOD is NOT MAN/HUMAN. And GOD does not change, so are you thinking GOD is a liar and changed?

@d_e_a_n Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 No, you seem to worship the watchtower or your organization. That’s true. It’s like all you talk about, your organization. Do a search of “jesus” and “organization” in your library. Now look in the bible and see what the early Christian’s talked about: Jesus or an organization?

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@d_e_a_n just ur own false opinion

@d_e_a_n Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 Lol. No, I did the search. Did the math. Bible uses “organization” zero times. And you use it in print virtually as much as “Jesus” or “kingdom.”

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@d_e_a_n search the word Bible in the Bible, and how many do you see? so is the Bible wrong?

@mmltpb14 Жыл бұрын

I actually brought the 2nd point up to someone in one of your comment sections not too long ago😂 Jesus himself says he rules over the heavens and the earth yet they do everything in their power to deny that

@tongakhan230 Жыл бұрын

Might be good to show some scripture to back up a claim. Maybe this is what one had in mind. (Matthew 28:18) Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. From not having any authority, Jesus now has all authority because he was given it by God.

@Moe_Posting_Chad Жыл бұрын

@@tongakhan230 Ah yes rote memorization of translated quotes from the bible. You are very smart! That sure is a compelling argument. Why do Christians do this? Way overthinking it and massively weakening your own argument by appealing to weak positions like that one. You have to reason for yourself. Not just repeat your faith and expect others to accept it. The words say what they say for a reason, but you have to explain it to neophytes, you have to explain it in real words what the meaning and quality is. Not just insist Christ is the king because da book says so.

@richardlahan7068 7 ай бұрын

JWs and Mormons both deny the Holy Trinity.

@roeltingzon758 7 ай бұрын

If Jesus had been given all authority then how come there is still so much violence and hatred happening in our earth? And why are there still wars, heinous crimes etc??

@JJcool11Gaming 5 ай бұрын

@@roeltingzon758it’s because of freewill. It’s not God’s choices to decide for a person to let that happen but rather the people behind it. It’s the people with free will during those times that led to bad things happening. It’s not God’s fault but rather it’s Satan. Also Remember in Isaiah 55:8 it says “My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways” God’s ways are better then ours and it can be crushing sometimes but at the end he has a very good reason for it and loves those that are going through that hard times=Psalm 34:18 “The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit.”

@dianeexley1709 Жыл бұрын

Satan wins when it comes to jws. They're worshipping him, and they don't even know it. They ask pretty much the same question as the serpent in the garden, "Is God really 6:51 who he says he is?" Awesome content 👏

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

Jesus is NOT God himself. Hosea 11:9 states "For I am God and not man,The Holy One in your midst;" GOD is NOT MAN/HUMAN. And GOD does not change, so are you thinking GOD is a liar and changed?

@mattmurdock2868 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 Christ is the "Holy One." You're confused between Father and Son.

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@mattmurdock2868 Jesus is "Holy one of GOD", in this context, the Holy One IS DIFFERENT FROM GOD. Just Like JehovaH IS THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL, Jehovah is different and NOT Israel himself

@mattmurdock2868 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 Christ is the "Holy One" of God. Christ is the "Holy One" of Israel. Christ is the "Holy One" in your midst. Christ is the "Holy One." When using TITLES, always use upper case lettering, these are names of God. Christ is not the "Holy one" but the "Holy One."

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@mattmurdock2868 STOP LYING, the Bible never called Jesus as "HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL". Jesus is called the Holy One of GOD, and that Holy ONE is NOT GOD himself, just like the Holy One of Israel, the Holy One is NOT Israel

@Natalia143able Жыл бұрын

I ❤ this video!!!! Thanks brother.

@kellyshea92 Жыл бұрын

I born and raised as a JW. I figured out it was BS when I was 12. I got out at 18 and somehow managed to talk my family out a few years later. Im in my early 30s now and a recent convert to Greek Orthodoxy.

@Mr.DC3.1914 Жыл бұрын

WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?

@Moe_Posting_Chad Жыл бұрын

Orthodoxy is the one true church of Christ. It is the only one that can maintain a church community regardless of region and across time. Because it doesn't cement every single tradition and prescription to a time and place long since removed from its current flock. Stay strong brother. Nobody is hated more in this world than people that have faith in Christ.

@davidscott2809 10 ай бұрын

Sad to hear, does the orthodox church not teach the trinity, hellfire, the immortal soul? These are false teachings.

@cindyjacob9684 9 ай бұрын

Continue to search for God in spirit and in truth

@davidscott2809 9 ай бұрын

Must have been a very clever 12yr old, I've been one 40yrs and I'm still learning, might be a good idea to compare the basic doctrines of the goc with the bible. You just need an open mind.

@timd3895 Жыл бұрын

7:00 that's a shocker 😮 definitely saving that for later. No idea how they get away with this one. 😳 Ephesians 1:3-5 ESV Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, [4] *even as **_he chose us in him BEFORE the foundation of the world,_* 🌎 that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love [5] *_he predestined us FOR ADOPTION to himself as sons THROUGH JESUS CHRIST,_* according to the purpose of his will,

@timd3895 9 ай бұрын

@JWAEXPOSE Just like there are many false Jesus' there are also false Jehovah's.

@anniehardy6474 Жыл бұрын

JWs believe Jehovah is all powerful (to a point) Jehovah can do anything except be everywhere at the same time. Jehovah according to JWs is similar to the Mormon God. Very sad, very unbiblical and very illogical.

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

God in heaven not God everywhere

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

GOD can put limits to himself. why, does GOD LIE OR BE WICKED? He can be everything he wanted but it does not mean he MUST be always there. as mentioned in the Bible "1 Kings 19:12 After the earthquake, there was a fire, but Jehovah was NOT IN THE FIRE", so is GOD present IN THat FIRE? NOPE.

@CherylArsenault123 Жыл бұрын

Yes. And it's no surprise that all those cults came out around the same time. SDA, J.W., Mormons and Church of God and Messianics. They all came with a Zionist wolf Jewish flavour.

@suntzu7691 6 ай бұрын

Thts not true. You made that up. . They believe why the Bible says and that is nothing is hidden from Jah

@lshed28 6 ай бұрын

@@suntzu7691they don’t believe Jesus is God which the Bible teaches.

@thegardenranger 3 ай бұрын

The Watchtower spreads so many lies about Jehovah and about Jesus Christ. We should stick to the Holy Spirit who teaches us to stay within the Holy Bible.

@mavrosyvannah Ай бұрын

No we should run from anyone who thinks the bible is literal or true. The bible is a Roman test for the active gullible gene. If you believe any of it, you're ripe for enslavement. In fact, happily enslaved for a total lie.

@RowanTasmanian Жыл бұрын

JWs have stated categorically Jehovah is NOT Omnipresent. The ALMOST All Powerful Jehovah “It is not scriptural to speak of Jehovah as being omnipresent. WT 10/1/1951, p. 607” AND “The Scriptures that seem to attribute omnipresence to God must be taken symbolically or figuratively.A 8/22/1963, p. 28”

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

God is in heaven not everywhere

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 God cannot lie but he does send lying spirits

@christiancrusader9374 9 ай бұрын

The Bible says he is, so he is.

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

Do you have a pagan concept of God that he is in everything. How about in places where the demons dwell? God has a throne. He can see all things and his spirit is all searching and can go where God directs.

@cliffwade8151 7 ай бұрын

Russell has ALOT to answer for. He has deceived many into damnation

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

Actually he helped many come out of Babylon the Great. The emperor Constantine and his henchmen have a lot to answer for. And those who brought in false doctrine and unscripted teachings.

@needsgreeters4871 2 ай бұрын

@@NickHawaii how about the 1914 where Jesus came down on earth invisibly? Are you sure with your faith?

@needsgreeters4871 2 ай бұрын

@@NickHawaii how about the 1914 where Jesus came down on earth invisibly? Are you sure with your faith?

@godvsevolutionmythgodvsevo1038 Ай бұрын

@@NickHawaii Only Jesus Christ remove the veil 14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. : Ephesians 4:20-23 The truth is in Jesus Christ : In the New World translation they put Jehovah instead of Lord Jesus Christ is Lord the God Head Deity Colossians 2:9-10 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily". And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: There's only one God: : Jehovah Witnesses New Testament change the word of God John 1:1 Rightfully reads In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was GOD.THE WORD Jesus Christ is God John1:14 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.John14:8 Jesus Christ the Father John 14:8 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Jesus Christ the light of the world John 8:12 "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life

@omarseneriz5577 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic information, accurate and well detailed. The only thing that is not correct is the name Jehovah. That is assumption based by a Catholic Pries not his real name and should never be used. We should used Lord, Father as originally indicated.

@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын

Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL

@TylerClifton-ks4yx 3 ай бұрын

Only thing I would say is not to place that on Catholicism. The name Jehovah didn’t come from Catholic it actually came from a grave Protestant mistake from Bible scholars. It’s a Latin error.

@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын

Jehovah is OUR FATHER - Isa 63:16. JEHOVAH is not an invention of Catholics or Protestants. Where do you think the term JEHO came from in the names of JEHOshuah, JEHOshaphat? FROM JEHOVAH, THE GOD OF THE BIBLE

@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын

@@TylerClifton-ks4yx Jehovah is OUR FATHER - Isa 63:16. JEHOVAH is not an invention of Catholics or Protestants. Where do you think the term JEHO came from in the names of JEHOshuah, JEHOshaphat? FROM JEHOVAH, THE GOD OF THE BIBLE

@TylerClifton-ks4yx 3 ай бұрын

@@Mr.DC3.1914 There is no J in the Greek or Hebrew alphabet. Period. Anywhere. Jehovah is a false name. It is an error created because of the Latin transliteration. Do your research.

@terridovey7648 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! This is a great way to show the truth of what the wt is! God bless you. 🍃✝️🍃🪻

@laymanphil8513 Жыл бұрын

Real life and all its opportunities are a thousand times more rewarding and fulfilling than the Watchtower "slave" life. Today the three JW pioneers of my former congregation have not worked enough during their life to have a descent retirement. Today they live like paupers because they believed they would not grow old in this world as the Watchtower told them. The retirement pension of thousands of followers will reflect their life of sacrifice. After having "chosen" to sacrifice their youth by working for free for the Watchtower Society, the consequences of their "informed choice" will force them to also sacrifice their old age with a reduced pension. This apocalyptic cult only reduces man. The passage of time is a powerful and cruel revealer.

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

Jesus is NOT God himself. Hosea 11:9 states "For I am God and not man,The Holy One in your midst;" GOD is NOT MAN/HUMAN. And GOD does not change, so are you thinking GOD is a liar and changed?

@laymanphil8513 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 YES, indeed the Watchtower is surely one of the most toxic apocalyptic cults that exists. To constantly say that the "END" is imminent is not a mistake but a lie continually updated for decades and decades. It is only the fundamentalist movements that say that the "END" is imminent. The Watchtower promised my grandfather that he would not grow old in this system and that he would see heaven in his lifetime. Despite this false promise, the Watchtower persists and reiterates its promise by telling my father that he will not grow old in this system and that he will see paradise in his lifetime. After more than 140 years of false promises, this same company promises me today that I will not grow old in this system and that I will see paradise in my lifetime. Fortunately unlike in the past, today more and more JW parents are waking up and no longer want to infect their offspring with the Watchtower's false promises. Breaking the vicious circle of this transmission will allow all our beloved children to no longer be indoctrinated by this toxic propaganda which only obscures all natural aspirations of children to project themselves into the future. "The world in the year 2000, I see it transformed into a pretty paradise, I think that the current world and its leaders will not succeed in reaching this period..." Awake 11/08/86 p 8. In 1960 many JW gave up going to higher education in order to work more for the Watchtower society because the “END” was imminent. Many JWs never put money aside for retirement because they weren't supposed to age in this system. Many parents did not want to have children because the great persecution was imminent. Everything is false. This cult is a poison that transforms JWs into docile zombies in the service of a real estate company that has been in for more than 140 years.

@adamhartley8862 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 the bible says otherwise

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@adamhartley8862 ALL FROM THE BIBLE if you care what it teaches. THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5

@lwmaynard5180 Жыл бұрын

The international banks are going through a Major Financial Crisis ! DO NOT PUT YOUR FAITH IN UNCERTAIN RICHES ? ? Check that on U TUBE ?

@RowanTasmanian Жыл бұрын

G'day D H, you gave another fascinating look at this group. Did you know the WT know where Jehovah lives. It's in the Pleiades and you are correct when you state JWs don't believe he is Omnipresent. Here are some quotes. “Alcyone, the central one of the renowned Pleiadic stars . . . from which the Almighty governs his universe.” STUDIES, Vol. 3, p. 327” “Suppose you should be here in 1925, what would you do? I said I believe I will be home in the Pleiades before then.” WT 11/1/1920, p. 334 “The constellation of the seven stars forming the Pleiades . . . that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling-place of Jehovah. . . . because the Pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of God.” RECONCILIATION, p. 14” ******Then the WT state the complete opposite here******* “. . . it would be unwise for us to try to fix God’s throne as being at a particular spot in the universe.” WT 11/15/1953, p. 703 *******Jehovah not Omnipresent according to JWs****** “GOD BEING AN INDIVIDUAL, A PERSON WITH A SPIRIT BODY, HAS A PLACE WHERE HE RESIDES, AND SO HE COULD NOT BE AT ANY OTHER PLACE AT THE SAME TIME.” WT 2/15/1981, p. 6”

@ritastevenson5639 Жыл бұрын

I got out of JWs 2.5 years ago and I didn't know they taught that! Granted, that's "old light" 😂 and they dropped that teaching, I believe, in the 30s or 40s. Crazy though!

@mattgardiner614 Жыл бұрын

@@RowanTasmanian Rowan, I strongly suspect that if you looked back at Baptist writings and teachings from way back (They go back to the 1600's if I'm not very much mistaken), you might find a few things to take issue with. Yet while you will bash Witnesses about the head with stuff from a century ago and use it as ammo to try to prove us false teachers, you don't appear quite so willing to apply the same standards to your own denomination. What would you need to see to disassociate yourself from that group? Or is it only Witnesses you think should be held to such close scrutiny?

@anonymousprofessor8866 Жыл бұрын

@@ritastevenson5639 I have never been a JWs but when JWs say "Well that is old light" I am thinking it could not have come from God so it had to come from the ideas and thoughts of Men. Which means all of it JWs teaching is coming from the ideas of Men.

@anonymousprofessor8866 Жыл бұрын

@@mattgardiner614 I have never been a JWs but when JWs say "Well that is old light" I am thinking it could not have come from God so it had to come from the ideas and thoughts of Men. Which means all of it, JWs teaching is coming from the ideas of Men. Also using "I suspect, if I'm not mistaken or you MIGHT find a FEW things to take issue with the Baptists back in the 1600" is absurd. Are you a Baptist? Do you currently agree with their teachings and writings? Do you have any idea how ridiculous it is to defend your JWs false teachings with a group you yourself don't even believe in! Absolutely ridiculous!

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

@@anonymousprofessor8866 if interpretation is outside the historical church it is from men not God

@Born_From_Above Жыл бұрын

Can you do one on JW’s stance on military service? Most common argument I get for why they are the true religion is because they argue they don’t go to war and kill each other…

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

I can! Great idea. I have the next 2 already lined up, but I will put that 3rd so keep an eye out :) be about a month or so.

@Born_From_Above Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry, I have some notes on the topic that may be helpful. Do you have an email I can send to you? Nothing ground breaking but may be helpful non the less.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

@@Born_From_Above Ofcourse! Check my “about” section, should be in there :)

@Born_From_Above Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry great I just shot you over an email. Thanks again for your work!

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

as PROPHECIED in Isa 4, and in the FINAL PART OF THE DAYS - He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight* respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears.g Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.h

@Michael-kd1ud 3 ай бұрын

Their God is a printing press. I’ve always said their god was not the same as mine, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. My family are Al jw’s I was raised as one but could never understand the limitations they put on him. He didn’t know the future, he couldn’t this, he couldn’t that. This articulated the difference very well, nice job,

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

Your God is the Abraham, Issac and Jacob. Really it’s Jehovah. Okay the who is Jesus in relation to that One as seen in Acts 3:13?

@misterauctor7353 Ай бұрын

@@NickHawaiiJesus is God Titus 2:13.

@NickHawaii Ай бұрын

@ That verse can be read as honest informed trinitarians admit so 2 persons at in view. Not one. What do you see in Titus 1:4?

@misterauctor7353 Ай бұрын

@NickHawaii 2 persons of the trinity.

@NickHawaii Ай бұрын

@@misterauctor7353 Parts? Are you a modalist? No where does the Bible describe God that way. Or three persons in one God.

@joemonoco1977 9 ай бұрын

Here's another logical fallacy in their "If God knew beforehand he would be complicit" logic. They say God "limits his own knowledge" so that way he's not complicit. Here's the logic they are missing. If God "COULD" know but choses NOT to know...he would STILL be complicit!

@wpiofm Жыл бұрын

It matters most that JW's don't accept that God (the Father) made Jesus an offering for their sin. Isaiah 53-10

@adamhartley8862 Жыл бұрын

Where do they teach this?

@Radrook353 7 ай бұрын

@@adamhartley8862 They don't. He either didn't understand or else is making things up.

@joJo56976 Жыл бұрын

wow i never realized they teach such nonsense... Going to read the older writings (origins are so important to jehovah's witnesses after all ;) ) i came across this appalling statement from Rutherford: after the (invisible) return of Jesus, the holy spirit ceased to be sent. now it was through angels that Rutherford received interpretations and guidance… disgusting. (Preservation p. 193-194)

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

Jesus is NOT God himself. Hosea 11:9 states "For I am God and not man,The Holy One in your midst;" GOD is NOT MAN/HUMAN. And GOD does not change, so are you thinking GOD is a liar and changed?

@joJo56976 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 Jesus is the I AM. I know who the liars are and I hope with all my heart that the Lord will open the hearts and eyes of more possible victims. Matthew 24:23, would Jesus punish with death people who listen to his own advice?

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@joJo56976 the SEPTUAGINT text calls GOD, I AM THE BEING , totally different from "I am", so Jesus is not Jehovah God

@joJo56976 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 I will never understand why the divinity of Christ annoys people so much (John 1:1). Surely because a detestable angel wants to bring him down to his own state.

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@joJo56976 JOHN 1:1 - SAHIDIC COPTIC TEXT says A god. And also SEPTUAGINT - I AM THE BEING, and the Bible called Jesus as MADE, BORN, COME INTO BEING, installed/setup, GIVEN LIFE, etc. so all of those are FROM THE BIBLE AND THE EARLIEST BIBLE MANUSCRIPTS. so the question now is WHY DO YOU REJECT THE BIBLE AND THE early BIBLE manuscripts?

@scottpeterson7500 Жыл бұрын

Is the Plan of Salvation really part of God's Plan of Creation?

@toddhayes3506 Жыл бұрын

Sadly Watchtower LIES have destroyed so many lives

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

Actually the truth they point to has helped millions including mine.

@Mr.DC3.1914 13 күн бұрын

Tyndale Bible of 1526 and I appeared vnto Abraham, Isaac and Iacob an allmightie God: but in my name Iehouah was I not knowne vnto them. In Tyndale's time, "I" and "J" were often used interchangeably, and the pronunciation would have been very similar to how we say "Jehovah" today.

@Terrylb285 3 күн бұрын

Isn’t this the same organization where its founder,an ex 7th day Adventist measured pagan pyramids to predict Armageddon, same organization that built a house in San Diego, because Abraham,Isaac,and Jacob were going to be resurrected and live there? 250,000 members left the organization when the October 1975, end time prediction failed again. Hard pass on the Kingdom Hall false witnesses, I’ll put my Trust in Jesus Christ who is the Founder of The Christian Faith.

@toddhayes3506 Жыл бұрын

Great Job keep Exposing Watchtower LIES!

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

If you believe in the trinity doctrine you have been duped.

@Jesus-The-Everlasting-Father Жыл бұрын

So who is Jesus Christ to JW's??? And who is their saviour that they consider?? Jehovah??

@uganda_mn397 Жыл бұрын

Probably their deeds or maybe Jesus somehow, although God says, there is no saviour but Me

@roeltingzon758 7 ай бұрын

Actually both Father and son are spoken of in the bible as saviors...but scripture in book of Jude shows that God saves by means of Jesus Christ. (Jude 1:25).

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

Read Revelation 7:10. What do you see. We owe our salvation to God (Jehovah) and to his Lamb (Jesus).

@stanleymays2710 7 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ is the Son of God Almighty !

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. Exactly. Luke 1:32

@archieliburd3794 4 ай бұрын

BUT WAIT,WAIT,WAIT, NOT SO FAST, 1 CORINTHIANS 11 v 3 says, "THE HEAD OF EVERY MAN IS CHRIST, THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD, SO IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A PERSON, WHO IS HE THE HEAD OF?

@Ken-h9r 3 ай бұрын

Your anwser won't be found in the edited jw bible

@consumermoneyGLR 2 ай бұрын

I just learnt about Acts 20:28 a year ago

@gaetanodetorrice5555 Жыл бұрын

Don't you think it's misleading when they say the Church of certain places cuz people automatically think it's a building and people all congregated in the buildings. Would it be more logical to say that they're all gathered because they were believers in Christ. Because Church doesn't mean building. It means people believers in Christ. So when the apostle spoke to the people in different parts of the land they went to visit is there were believers in Christ not today went to like a church building. I believe that God didn't give us religion he gave us a personal relationship with Jesus Christ ❤️. Amen. Judge Rutherford I agree on one thing that he said religion is a snare and a racket😮

@scottpeterson7500 Жыл бұрын

The Bible teaches us that our Creator and Sustainer was born on earth as Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Is the Plan of Salvation really a part of God’s Plan of Creation?

@timmothycopeland4866 Ай бұрын

Not sure where you get your information. I was raised JW and they do wholeheartedly believe Jehovah is all knowing, all powerful, and omnipresent.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Ай бұрын

I get all my information from the Watchtower and JW.org

@a.ihistory5879 27 күн бұрын

They do not believe God is omnipotent. I'm a former JW and I remember clearly this teaching always bothering me

@Mr.DC3.1914 13 күн бұрын

@@a.ihistory5879 GOD is all powerful but it does not mean he needs to prove his power to you all the time every second of the minute. so you lied

@a.ihistory5879 13 күн бұрын

@@Mr.DC3.1914 You just lied to me assuming you know God's full capabilities. jWs are heretics who lie about restoring first century Christianity.

@Terrylb285 3 күн бұрын

Didn’t Jesus say the gates of hell would not prevail against his church? Matthew 16:18. Wasn’t the faith once for all delivered unto the saints? Jude 1:3

@wylolister3218 Жыл бұрын

Most JWs will falsely claim they follow the Bible, a few will weakly attempt to say that they *try* to follow the Bible. But really, there has never been a time in this New York cult's history that they haven't promoted a false date that they claim comes from God. Their first "faithful discreet slave" and prophet actually went to Egypt to measure the Great Pyramid in American inches he called "God's inches". Did Armageddon end in 1914? come in 1915, 1917, 1918, 1920? Remember he claimed this came from God and that he was God's "mouthpiece". Same here today. JWs cling to 1914, 1919, 1935 as coming from God. Their leaders claim to be God's voice on earth, his provision and JWs as a whole claim to be God's sole channel of communication. Oh yeah, Armageddon didn't come before 2000 like they said in recent years. "It is the Day of Vengeance, which began in the world war of 1914 and which *will break like a furious morning storm in 1918.”* (The Finished Mystery, 1917, p. 404) *"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin* against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom." (The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p. 216 1971) [can be found in the book and on their website] "He was laying a foundation for a work *that would be completed in our 20th century".* (Watchtower 1989 Jan 1 p.12) (The 1989 Watchtower used the term "in our 20th century" in the magazine, but this was changed to "in our day" for the bound volume and subsequent CD library and website. Compare the magazine version to the bound volume and website version.) "This was the test - the coming down of fire; and the fulfillment exactly on time has proved that *Pastor Russell was one of God's great reformers and prophets."* Watchtower 1919 Oct 1 p.297 "… the truths I present, as God's mouthpiece…" Zion's Watch Tower 1906 Jul 15 page230 "But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99 *"This chronology is not of man, but of God. Being of divine origin* and divinely corroborated, present-truth chronology stands in a class by itself, absolutely and unqualifiedly correct...." (Watchtower, July 15, 1922) *"The Watchtower is the channel which Jehovah, our God, is using* at this time to in the faithful remnant who are keeping the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Watchtower, August 1, 1930 p. 239) *"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people,* and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 page327 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The "end" did not come. *They were guilty of false prophesying."* (Awake! 1968 October 8 page 23) "Jehovah God has made known to his anointed ones in advance what these Scriptures mean." Watchtower 1931 Jun 1 p.160

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

Jehovahs Witnesses today don’t care about anything to do with Pyramids. Some international students who were coming out of Babylon the great at the time may have had to readjust their thinking and did. I hear this talk all the time. What about early Christian disciples of Jesus who had wrong expectations? Many Four Square pastors who have misunderstood bible prophecy as well. Chuck Smith from Calvary Chapel in 1978 predicted the rapture by 1981. How come you don’t mention your fellow believers like him? In 1950, one of the most respected Christian evangelists, Billy Graham told a group in Los Angeles: “Two years and it’s all going to be over.” I can go on and on… So if you want to start slinging mud start first with your camp.

@Michael-kd1ud 3 ай бұрын

This question is for all the JW’s watching this channel, and I know you are from the comments. Read Revelation chapter 2 verse 8 and tell me who that is and why you believe so. This is a question I’ve asked my JW family members and have never got a straight answer. I was told by my uncle… it’s Jesus, because he’s the first of creation, but he didn’t know what it meant by “the last” I’ll help you out. Read also Isaiah 41: 4, 44:6, 44:8, Rev 1:11 and 17, Rev 22:13 Would appreciate an answer since no one I know has one. Thank you

@davidscott2809 2 ай бұрын

@@Michael-kd1ud I'm surprised your family wasn't able to answer this question. It comes up a lot. Yes it is referring to Jesus. He is the first and last in 2 ways, being the firstborn of all creation, he was the first and last to be created by Jehovah himself, all other things being created through Christ. He is also likewise the first and last to be resurrected by Jehovah himself. All others are resurrected by Christ.

@Michael-kd1ud 2 ай бұрын

That was a great answer, fantastic, and honestly it makes sense. I’m surprised no one has ever gave me that response before and to be honest I’m a little embarrassed I didn’t think of it myself. I truly appreciate you answering that. So I have a couple more and I hope you take the time to respond again, you seem very intelligent. What about all the other places in the Bible where Jehovah God calls himself the first and the last? Why is the same phrase used for both Jesus and Jehovah. Also, if Jesus is the first last and only creation of Jehovah God, who created the heavens and the earth in genesis chapter 1:1? It says in the beginning God, capital God created the heavens and the earth. If Jehovah only created Jesus, then the Bible is calling Jesus God. How do the witnesses reconcile this? Thank you for your help. Look forward to hearing from you again

@davidscott2809 2 ай бұрын

@@Michael-kd1ud thanks, bro. the a&o is used in relation to the the context as rev.21:6 suggests, here John use the Greek differently to fit the context. Although a&O normaly translates first and last, John here doesn't use protosand esxatos. He refers to Jehovah as the beginning (arke) and the end (telos) this is in line with the context. Rev.21 describes the new heavens and earth, a new beginning, with Satan locked away, and the end of imperfection and death, and end of Satan. Verse 7 seems to indicate a new and special relationship with Jehovah. In gen. Moses said let us make man, which agrees with col. that everything is through Christ.

@jamesb.armstrong5433 2 ай бұрын

How can so many people be fooled and mislead?

@Terrylb285 2 ай бұрын

They have been deceived into believing the Watchtower is the voice of God.

@mavrosyvannah Ай бұрын

@Terrylb285 they were conditioned because the mythical book of the Bible exists. 22,000 sects branch out from that crooked book.

@jamesb.armstrong5433 Ай бұрын

@@mavrosyvannah They may not be as mislead as you.....

@mavrosyvannah Ай бұрын

@jamesb.armstrong5433 highly unlikely.

@mavrosyvannah Ай бұрын

@@jamesb.armstrong5433 are you getting this? The more honest your mind is, the easier it is to see.

@thesinfultictac5704 Жыл бұрын

Three thoughts: 1. JW's depiction of both Yahweh and Satan, throughout much of the doctrine I've seen from this side of KZbin, paints almost some gnostic Christianity ideas, especially almost Duelism (world bad, heaven good) that was a big enough heterodox theology in early Christianity that they had a whole council on it. I mean they give Satan so much credit, it's akin to how many gnostic texts considered the Demiurge the ruler of Mundus 2. The way you speak about idols, would by your own definition exclude most if not all the Pagan or Ethnic gods, many of them stretch so far back into Prehistory that we don't know exactly where or when they came about. In fact in Hesiod and Homer the Hellenic (Greek) god specifically revel themselves and their natures. Nothing really manufactured about them. 3. The way you speak about the elect, makes me think you might hold on to some Calvinist points. Anyway, glad you're happy where you are now.

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

God wasn't sure Deuteronomy 8:2 KJV

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 That will be in the new age

@ThePreacherman9 5 ай бұрын

Calvinism is also heresy and a false gospel There are 2 Gospels one is true one is false 1)Gospel(Good news) says:God so loved the world he gave his only son that WHOEVER BELIEVES in him shall not perish but have everlasting life 2)Gospel(terrible news) says: God so loved the predestined elect that he sent his only son to die for those whom he chose before the foundations of the world to be at his side while he damned the rest to Hell Which ones the true gospel(Good news)?both can't be correct,one sides wrong the other is right Are these the same gospels? BE HONEST BEFORE GOD LIEINGS AN ABOMINATION If not then ones under a curse according to Galatians 1:6-9,which ever sides right must not fellowship with those who preach a false Gospel,and are we going to fail like the Corinthian church failed in 2 Corinthians 11:1-4 an easily put up with those who preach a false gospel and another Jesus that has not be preached? Stop following popular Christianity and let's follow scripture The truth is IF YOUR a CALVINIST/REFORMED THEOLOGIAN and are HONEST YOU would have to come to the same conclusion I have and forsake fellowship with non Calvinist because they preach a different good news then the one you preach, if anyone is preaching opposite of what you may believe the true gospel is (Calvinism) then you can't consider non Calvinist saved according to galatians. Its very saddening that anyone holds this demonic view of God and I pray they repent, because it seems that in the same way the pharisees rejected Gods will for their lives and his knowledge so as to be saved is the same way many calvinist have been given over because they refuse to heed to true gospel for the sake of being apart of a bearded club of false Greek gnostic philosophy

@JLGeorge101 8 ай бұрын

Maybe your should read Psalms 83:18 KJV.

@LightoverDarkMinistry 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, just read it. Are you a JW?

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry Now that you read it, Psalm 83:18, who is the highest? See Luke 1:32.

@darkopranjic7713 Жыл бұрын

Blessings good lyck...

@unclesalty7778 Жыл бұрын

THE MOST HIGH! THE FATHER OF ALL IS SPREAD OUT OVER THE FIRMAMENT AND LAND! Matthew 7:7-8 NIV JESUS SAID: 7“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

@unclesalty7778 9 ай бұрын

@JWAEXPOSE Neighbor! All we have is the Tetragrammaton of the divine name no vowels used! The 4 gospels of Jesus did he ever use any name to call upon his Father ! As you also wouldn’t call upon your father by his name showing respect and authority over you even in your old age!

@mo2874 Жыл бұрын

*Part 1* - You seem to be mixing up 2 things that look similar. God being spirit and God's Holy spirit. John 4:24 New Living Translation *For God is Spirit,* so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.” 1 Corinthians 15:44 New Living Translation They are buried as natural human bodies, *but they will be raised as spiritual bodies.* For just as there are natural bodies, *there are also spiritual bodies.* Jesus was human but then what did he change to upon his death and resurrection? 1 Peter 3:18 New Living Translation Christ suffered for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. *He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit.* So anything going to heaven or in heaven must be what? Spirit. Jesus explained this in relation to being born again (being changed from physical to spirit). John 3:3-7 New Living Translation 3Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, unless you are born again,a you cannot see the Kingdom of God.” 4“What do you mean?” exclaimed Nicodemus. “How can an old man go back into his mother’s womb and be born again?” 5Jesus replied, *“I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.* b 6Humans can reproduce only human life, *but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life.* c 7So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘Youd must be born again.’ 1 Corinthians 15:52,53 New Living Translation 52It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And *we who are living will also be transformed. 53For our dying bodies must be transformed into bodies that will never die; our mortal bodies must be transformed into immortal bodies.* I'm sure you would agree that anything from God is inherently good. But is everything spiritual good? Ephesians 6:12 New Living Translation For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, *and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.* So no, not everything in spirit form is good. Therefore not everything in spirit is from God...

@mo2874 Жыл бұрын

*Part 2* - This is where we move onto Holy spirit. What is it? It's understandable when you see it in operation. Psalms 104:30 New International Version *When you send your Spirit, they are created,* and you renew the face of the ground. New Living Translation *When you give them your breath, life is created,* and you renew the face of the earth. Genesis 1:1,2 New International Version The Beginning 1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and *the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.* Genesis 2:7 Amplified Bible 7then the LORD God [d]formed [that is, created the body of] man from the [e]dust of the ground, *and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being [an individual complete in body and spirit].* Jesus was transferred from heaven and was born as a human baby. How was that done? Luke 1:35 New Living Translation The angel replied, *“The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you.* So the baby to be born will be holy, and he will be called the Son of God. At Jesus baptism what happened? Obviously something changed in Jesus because at that point he started doing the assignment he had been sent to earth to do... Luke 3:21-23 New Living Translation The Baptism of Jesus 21One day when the crowds were being baptized, Jesus himself was baptized. As he was praying, the heavens opened, *22and the Holy Spirit, in bodily form, descended on him like a dove.* And a voice from heaven said, “You are my dearly loved Son, and you bring me great joy.g” *23Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his public ministry.* Jesus was known as the son of Joseph. Joseph was the son of Heli. How was Jesus bought back to life? Romans 8:11 New Living Translation *11The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead,* lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. After his resurrection Jesus told his followers to wait for holy spirit because it would support them in carrying out the commission he gave them to preach earth-wide. Holy spirit gave them the ability to speak in foreign languages instantly. Acts 1:8 New Living Translation *But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you. And you will be my witnesses,* telling people about me everywhere-in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, *and to the ends of the earth.”* Acts 2:1-4 New Living Translation *The Holy Spirit Comes* 1On the day of Pentecosta all the believers were meeting together in one place. 2Suddenly, there was a sound from heaven like the roaring of a mighty windstorm, and it filled the house where they were sitting. 3Then, what looked like flames or tongues of fire appeared and settled on each of them. *4And everyone present was filled with the Holy Spirit and began speaking in other languages,b as the Holy Spirit gave them this ability.* The disciples of Jesus came under persecution/opposite. Look what the spirit did when Jesus followers received it... Acts 4:18,23,31 New Living Translation 18So they called the apostles back in and *commanded them never again to speak or teach in the name of Jesus.* *The Believers Pray for Courage* 23As soon as they were freed, Peter and John returned to the other believers and told them what the leading priests and elders had said. 31After this prayer, the meeting place shook, *and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit. Then they preached the word of God with boldness.* So now you can probably see what Holy spirit is. Its a power from God that accomplishes whatever God wants. I used to explain it to my kids like hands. Humans use their hands to do things, God uses Holy spirit to do what he wants. Luke 11:20 New Living Translation But if I am casting out demons by the *power of God,* then the Kingdom of God has arrived among you. New International Version But if I drive out demons by the *finger of God,* then the kingdom of God has come upon you. Exodus 8:19 New Living Translation *“This is the finger of God!”* the magicians exclaimed to Pharaoh. But Pharaoh’s heart remained hard. He wouldn’t listen to them, just as the LORD had predicted. The ones who killed Jesus demonstrated that they were working directly against God. Which is what an unforgivable sin is...resisting/stopping God doing what he wishes. Acts 7:51 New International Version 51“You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. *You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit!* Mark 3:29 New Living Translation but *anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. This is a sin with eternal consequences.”* So God's reach is boundless. That is the point in Psalms 139. God's spirit can create, recreate/resurrect (if one dies), it can motivate, it can give one miraculous abilities etc. Psalm 139:7,8 New Living Translation *7I can never escape from your Spirit! I can never get away from your presence!* 8If I go up to heaven, you are there; if I go down to the grave,a you are there. Proverbs 15:3 New Living Translation *The LORD is watching everywhere,* keeping his eye on both the evil and the good. Hebrews 4:13 New Living Translation *Nothing in all creation is hidden from God.* Everything is naked and exposed before his eyes, and he is the one to whom we are accountable. God God has access/can see everywhere but that doesn't mean it is everywhere. As the bible says his location is in heaven... **If God was truly in all places simultaneously then why did he send messengers/representatives?** Acts 7:53 New International Version 53you who have received *the law that was given through angels* but have not obeyed it.” Hebrews 1:1,2 New Living Translation Jesus Christ Is God’s Son *1Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways* to our ancestors through the prophets. *2And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son.* God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.

@courtneyroberts6011 6 ай бұрын

WAIT A TICK... GOD CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND DIED FOR OUR SINS???!! THAT'S NOT RIGHT! THAT IS NOT AN EQUAL SACRIFICE. GOD DIEING FOR MEN??? ADAM WAS A PERFECT HUMAN WHEN HE SINNED SO A PERFECT HUMAN (JESUS) HAD TO BE SACRFICED FOR OUR SINS TO BE FORGIVEN. ADAM WAS NOT A GOD SO GOD DID NOT HAVE TO DIE FOR US. THAT'S WHY THE DEVIL AND DEMONS CANT BE FORGIVEN, BECAUSE AN ANGEL CANT DIE FOR AN ANGEL. THEY ARE IMMORTAL.

@raydavison4288 Жыл бұрын

They make an idol out of Jesus and an oracle oracle out of the Bible.

@bigzachful Жыл бұрын

How would God have known Adam and Eve would sin? He obviously just knew it could happen not that they for sure would. Just like with Job

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Zach. So if God didn’t know they would sin, then was he unaware of the whole future, everything that happened as the effect?

@Emperor_famous 6 ай бұрын

His all knowing. Maybe he just let it play out and didn't wish to intervene.

@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@MegaGenten 7 ай бұрын

I must inform you Mr.D.C.1914, that Jesus Christ, aka Yeshua ha messiach, was NOT created. Here is some Biblical proof of that: In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. [John 1;1] And the word became flesh and dwelt among us. [John 1:14] Then Jesus said to them, "most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM" [John 8:58] Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God." [John 20:28] For in him, {Jesus}, all things were created; things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is BEFORE all things, and in Him ALL THINGS HOLD TOGETHER. [colossians 1;16] Jesus himself states in Revelation 1:8, "I AM the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, who is, who was, and who is to come, "THE ALMIGHTY" ". The name of the Almighty God is YHWH, Yahweh. JW's wrongly call Him by the name Jehovah. John 10:30 Jesus said "I and the Father are one". YHWH is God YESHUA/Jesus is God THE RUACH ha KODESH/Holy Spirit is also God. These three are one God. I would advice you to stop reading The New World Translation Bible as it has been altered to suit the JWs beliefs.

@mattgardiner614 Жыл бұрын

On one particular point, omniscience. It is you who have shot yourself in the foot. God CHOOSES when he looks into the future. Obviously he can. But if we take it to the length that you have, following it to it's logical conclusion, you also have to accept the doctrine of Predestination. No ifs or buts; you have to. Not surprised you didn't want to get into that here. Also, by saying that God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would sin, you make him out to be no better than the Gods of Greek and Norse myth who saw humans as their playthings and as a source of amusement. How can you make these claims and simultaneously say you believe in an "All loving" God? All the misery that has transpired over human existence was part of God's original plan if you are correct. While you mock witnesses by having God say "New Plan", according to your view it must have been the plan all along. (Including the ransom sacrifice) I think you need to pause to consider the implications of your theology before you make videos like this. Like how is it that a "loving" God could set mankind up to fail? Even if you don't believe that the creation was originally perfect like Witnesses do, and just "Very good" like you said in your previous video, how is this even "Very good"? Good enough for the theatre that human existence was always meant to be? (According to you) Because you make it sound almost as if, pre-creation, Jehovah wrote a script that we are all just acting out. Trying to find logic in your position here - with it's implications for predestination, God's perfection, free will, etc. - is like trying to fully comprehend time and space. It can't be done.

@anniehardy6474 Жыл бұрын

Dear Matt, I am absolutely astonished. Your views on this are as if you have never ever read a page of philosophy or theology. Your understanding of predestination and its implications are childlike. I would appreciate with the”views” you have expressed here to back it up with 2 scholars that come to the same conclusions as yourself based on those premises of your loosely defined “argument” You may have met the minimum standard as an English instructor in foreign countries, however you have not received any training whatsoever in theology or philosophy. It seriously shows an extreme deficit of training. I am not being rude, but you failed to list all the possible scenarios. Calvinism has been misrepresented and Arminianism and other schools of thoughts have not even been hinted at. It would be interesting if you could give a coherent response. Numerous semesters of philosophy would be prudent before you make another “statement”. I beg you. Molinism didn’t get a mention either. Please out of respect to the amazing works on this subject by scholars,please consult an expert in the area and not quote some 2 bit hack from the Brooklyn. Brooklyn have no scholars, just clerks working under the direction of 8 or 9 Illiterate men regarding theology or philosophy. As my professor jokingly said on numerous occasions regarding Wannabe religions“Oxford, it ain’t “.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

Matt, just want to touch on the first part of your response. How is God choosing not to know? How does that work logically? Was God surprised when Adam and Eve sinned. Did he have plans before hand that needed to be changed. Also, what verse in the Bible says that God chooses not to know things?

@Mr.DC3..1941 Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry I also wish to know what verse Matt will quote to prove this very dubious doctrine. It seems the term omniscience and omnipresence are kryptonite to Jehovah according to the Witnesses. Jehovah is all powerful until He has to be everywhere and know everything. The wording to the hymn “how great thou art” will be changed if sung in the Kingdom Hall to “How great You might be,as long as You don’t have to be everywhere and think everything at the same time” That’s not a song I will sing.

@terridovey7648 Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.DC3..1941 ⚘️AMEN!!👍⚘️

@mattgardiner614 Жыл бұрын

@@anniehardy6474 Dear Annie, "You may have met the minimum standard as an English instructor in foreign countries, however you have not received any training whatsoever in theology or philosophy. " Yes I have. (Well, theology) I both studied with and attend the meetings of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses. Particularly the midweek meeting. Part of which was formerly known as the 'Theocratic Ministry School', now called 'Life and Ministry'. It's the best. You really should check it out. Not particularly interested in Philosophy. Surprised that you are. I'd have thought you had read Colossians 2:8: "Look out that no one takes you captive by means of the philosophy and empty deception according to human tradition, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;" "Your understanding of predestination and its implications are childlike." I'm quite aware what predestination is thank you. My parents were (Nominal) Presbyterians. "I'm not being rude" Yes you are. Regarding your comments on philosophy and theological study in general, it brings to mind the following Bible verses which you would do well to read: Matthew 11:25; Acts 4:13; 1 Corinthians 1:26,27

@archieliburd3794 Жыл бұрын

So then you are saying it is useless to pray if God already knew what you are going to do, why pray to him, since he already knew what you are going to do. So if God made you with FREE WILL, yet he knows what you are going to do,IS THAT FREE WIIL?

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

Yes. There is a massive difference between God planning you’ll do an action, and God foreknowing you’ll do that action. With enough information, I know how a child will react in a certain situation, and be 90% sure. I didn’t choose the action, they did. Now have infinite knowledge that isn’t just about the present and past, but future also. You’ll understand 100% what’s happening, and what will happen. Doesn’t mean you planned it. God’s infinite knowledge doesn’t remove our free will or make God less than God. Also even if he didn’t want to give us free will, or issue his will over our own, he’s allowed to, since we’re the creation, and he’s the creator. God answers to no one, he can do as he pleases.

@Joe-bx4wn 9 ай бұрын

It's SAME GOD AS THE JEWS, ABRAHAM,ISAAC AND JACOB.You think Job believed in the " Trinity" when word Trinity wasnt written til 2nd cent AD by Theophilus of Antioch?

@LightoverDarkMinistry 9 ай бұрын

Christ upon his arrival fully exegetes the nature and Character of God. The Trinity is just a word to define what is revealed in Scripture. Job believed in one God, just as Christians do today.

@Joe-bx4wn 9 ай бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry Yes Jesus had " accurate knowledge" about God,angels,heaven,spirit realm,Devil and demons. But Jesus didn't oppose Jewish Unitarian views. Mark 12:28-----34.

@LightoverDarkMinistry 9 ай бұрын

@@Joe-bx4wn Who’s says the Jews were Unitarian? Many Jewish writings pre Christ have the concept of God being multi personal. Something you need to look into.

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry The creed of Israel is “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.”-Deuteronomy 6:4

@googlespynetwork 4 ай бұрын

You seriously think that Disney garbage, is a "better movie"?

@LightoverDarkMinistry 4 ай бұрын

I said arguably, people argue about it. But not me, because Charlton Heston was the Man. Also Prince of Egypt wasn't Disney is was DreamWorks/Universal, which I only found out a few years ago.

@caspertx27 Жыл бұрын

Good job exposing JW's falsehoods - But, If Jesus was God (in the Flesh) then his dying was a Sham!! There would not be a sacrifice! Why? God Can't DIE! Can he? So maybe there's another answer. Still wanting to understand.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

Jesus was fully God and fully man. His human nature died, not his Devine nature.

@mattgardiner614 Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry Then he didn't die. Plain and simple. Just like if humans have an immortal soul and it contains our memories and personality, then we don't really die either. Stupid doctrine/s (Trinity and Immortal Soul)

@anonymousprofessor8866 Жыл бұрын

I will give you the best advice for understanding. Trust in God and Lean not on your own understanding. Prov. 3:5-6 and know that there is only one way to God and that is exclusively through Jesus, not a religion or Cult. John 14:6. See we humans kinda think we're highly intelligent and somehow can figure out the ways of God. It's an asinine concept to even try to understand God. But Men will try to do this regardless. So what ends up happening is... drum roll please... we end up with crazy Cults!! Like JWs. So my thinking is It's better to be a humble Idiot in Heaven than a self righteous Genius in Hell. Hope that helps. Be Humble

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

@@anonymousprofessor8866 Calvinism is from John Calvin a red flag

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

@@mattgardiner614 depends how you define death

@mo2874 Жыл бұрын

The Lords prayer also proves Jesus is not God. Notice his first words about how to prayer to God .... *"Our* Father..." Jesus included himself in how to address God. God is his Father too... John 20:17 New Living Translation 17“Don’t cling to me,” Jesus said, “for I haven’t yet ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them, *‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”* Jesus said those words *after* his resurrection back to life. Therefore he was no longer human at that point.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

“Jesus was no longer human at that point” “There is one mediator, between God and mankind, the MAN, Christ Jesus” still a man.

@mo2874 Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry The ransom was paid as a man...with blood... Ephesians 1:7 New Living Translation He is so rich in kindness and grace that he *purchased our freedom with the blood of his Son and forgave our sins.* Hebrews 9:12 New Living Translation *With his own blood* -not the blood of goats and calves- *he entered the Most Holy Place once for all time and secured our redemption forever.* After given up earthly life Jesus returned to heaven as a spirit being... 1 Corinthians 15:45 New Living Translation The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” *But the last Adam-that is, Christ-is a life-giving Spirit.*

@Radrook353 7 ай бұрын

1 Corinthians 8:6 ► yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

@vusimngomezulu2500 Жыл бұрын

Jesus sent you to preach about the JW's?????????

@kardiognostesministries8150 Жыл бұрын

2 Corinthians 10:5

@Mr.DC3.1914 13 күн бұрын

JWs worship the TRUE GOD acc to Jesus and that is OUR FATHER JEHOVAH - ISA 64. Search for Septuagint Manuscript of Book of Leviticus IAO. so JEHO came from JEHOVAH, THE GOD OF THE BIBLE

@carlarmarie7139 Жыл бұрын

Jehovah's Witnesses are commanded by Jehovah God to preach the good news of the Kingdom in all the world so that people of all nations will have an opportunity to know of God’s new world. (Matthew 24:14; 28: 19, 20) Jehovah God is now offering you an opportunity for life in his new world, where he will bless faithful people with the desires of their hearts. (Psalm 10:17; 27:4) What is the desire of your heart? 💖

@kardiognostesministries8150 Жыл бұрын

They used to pray to Jesus, then in 1954 they said not to. However, even after 1954 they still affirmed that it is proper to do so. They are confused.

@CherylArsenault123 Жыл бұрын

It was JESUS who commanded that. We are to be witnesses of Jesus, not Jehovah. We are to worship God the Father AND the Lord Jesus Christ. Please read an actual Bible that the J.W.'s did not change. God the Father said to listen to his beloved Son. We are to obey the Lord Jesus Christ. J.W.'s and other so called religions are NOT doing the Father's will. (Matthew 17:5, Matthew 7:21) Matthew 28:17-20 King James Version 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@CherylArsenault123 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?

@CherylArsenault123 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 True, the Father is greater than the Son. The Word of God which is EQUAL to God left his heavenly home to become a SON. In the beginning, before he came to earth he was the Word of God, who, with God the Father and the Holy Spirit.....CREATED it all. These three are one and they are God. Only God is the CREATOR! The Lord Jesus, as the Son is the FIRSTBORN from the DEAD. He is the FIRSTFRUITS. Colossians 1:15-18 King James Version 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN of every creature: 16 For BY HIM were all things CREATED, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were CREATED BY HIM, and FOR HIM: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the FIRSTBORN from the DEAD; that in all things he might have the PREEMINENCE. ............ Genesis 1:1 King James Version 1 In the beginning God CREATED the heaven and the earth. ........... Isaiah 45:18 King James Version 18 For thus saith the LORD that CREATED the heavens; GOD himself that FORMED the earth and made it; he hath established it, he CREATED it not in vain, he FORMED it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is NONE else. ........... John 1:1-3 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with GOD, and the WORD WAS GOD. 2 The same was in the beginning WITH GOD. 3 ALL THINGS were MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made. ............... ALL THINGS and that includes ANGELS.

@CherylArsenault123 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 The denomination/sect of the J.W.'s is no different than any other denomination/sect. You all have been told over and over again that only you have the TRUTH which causes pride which causes less to no grace. ONLY God's word is the TRUTH as it is written! God's word interprets itself! The Spirit of Truth guides us. Stop following men and follow the Lord. They all have added and subtracted from the word of God and put in a form of men's doctrines, just like the Pharisees of Judah of Jerusalem. Who ALL SAY that they alone have the TRUTH. They are all harlots of their mother! Charles Taze Russell was a Zionist as were the leaders of all the others who popped up in around the 1800's. He even named his material - ZION. Check out his tombstone and that of Ellen White. Pyramids and Obelisks, from Egypt. There was a lot of deception going on then. You are wrongly taught against scripture just as some Jews/Hebrews taught in the beginning of the church that is why the book of Hebrews needed to be written. Hebrews 1 clearly teaches that Jesus was NOT an angel but God calls him God. Another one of those false teachings is that the Lord Jesus rose as a spirit. That is a lie. He rose in the flesh, not human flesh but glorified flesh. He is come in the flesh and to say he did NOT come in the flesh is to be an ANTICHRIST. (2 John 1:7) The J.W.'s (zionists) repeat what the Jewish chief priests paid the soldiers to say about the Lord's body. (Matthew 28:11-15) But the TRUTH is in Luke 24:36-43. Luke 24:37-39 King James Version 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a SPIRIT. 38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not FLESH and BONES, as ye see ME HAVE.

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

STOP twisting, GOD can put limits to himself. why, does GOD LIE OR BE WICKED? He can be everything he wanted but it does not mean he MUST be always there. as mentioned in the Bible "1 Kings 19:12 After the earthquake, there was a fire, but Jehovah was NOT IN THE FIRE", so is GOD present IN THat FIRE? NOPE.

@toddhayes3506 Жыл бұрын

Experience Wisdom Truth Courage

@ericolmos7816 Жыл бұрын

Had me until you started preaching the trinity which is not biblical. Good video!

@adamhartley8862 Жыл бұрын

100% biblical! What bible are you reading?

@ericolmos7816 Жыл бұрын

@adamhartley8862 it's not about reading the Bible it's about comprehending it lol did Jesus know the day or hour of judgement? How did he receive all authority in heaven and earth? (Matt. 24:36) Does Jesus bow to God? ( 1 cor. 15:27,28) I could go on and on but Point is don't believe something just because other people say it's so......

@CherylArsenault123 Жыл бұрын

@@ericolmos7816 Jesus received all authority in heaven and in earth by dying on the cross and being resurrected then glorified in heaven! Matthew 28:17-20 King James Version 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

@@CherylArsenault123 Jesus still always has someone God to him so he can’t be that God. He worships that One.

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

@@adamhartley8862 100% incorrect. The Bible never says God is more than one person or 3 in 1 God.

@LorenzoLlamas 11 ай бұрын

Use extreme caution. Blasphemy is an unforgiveable sin. Say what you will about us, even our Lord Jesus Christ, it will be forgiven you. But using Jehovah's name unworthy, in contempt and hatred, will never be pardoned you. Matt. 12:31, 32. Ex.20:7. Most of you have already condemned yourselves to this sin that is unremovable. We're Gods fellow workers in the saving of souls, it's he who is trying with fatherly love and mercy toward you people that we're sent out to preach the good news, seeking lambs among wolves. Matt.10:16; 9:37; 1 Cor.3:9; Col.4:11. Jehovah is a loving just God, whether you like it or not, he's your God too, he gave his Son for a ransom for you and me. But he must be true to himself, and his earthly and heavenly family. It hurts him when people treat us so disrespectfully, we love like he loves, it's the wickedness in your hearts that he hates. Satan the Devil speaks disrespectfully and with contempt and hatred not only for Jehovah but for us, Gods worshipers, we have life giving sayings of truth to share with others. Jesus gave this command to his followers: '' Go! and make disciples of people of all the nations... teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.'' (His 12-apostles). Matt. 28:19,20; 24:14; John 8:32 The wrath of Jehovah God is coming against all those that have Blasphemed against him and his holy sacred name. Work toward your salvation, ''PROBABLY,'' you may be saved. Zeph.2:3. Amen.

@LightoverDarkMinistry 11 ай бұрын

Can you tell me where I was wrong?

@wylolister3218 Жыл бұрын

I can see why people are rejecting God. God loving? Not blaming a child for the sins of it's father? 2 Samuel 12:14-18. God killed an infant for the sins of it's parents. New International Version After Nathan had gone home, the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. New Living Translation After Nathan returned to his home, the LORD sent a deadly illness to the child of David and Uriah’s wife. English Standard Version Then Nathan went to his house. And the LORD afflicted the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and he became sick. Berean Standard Bible After Nathan had gone home, the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. King James Bible And Nathan departed unto his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick. New King James Version Then Nathan departed to his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and it became ill. New American Standard Bible Then Nathan went to his house. Later the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s widow bore to David, so that he was very sick. NASB 1995 So Nathan went to his house. Then the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s widow bore to David, so that he was very sick. NASB 1977 So Nathan went to his house. Legacy Standard Bible And Nathan went to his house. Then Yahweh smote the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, so that he was very sick. Amplified Bible Then Nathan went [back] to his home. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s widow bore to David, and he was very sick. Christian Standard Bible Then Nathan went home. The LORD struck the baby that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became deathly ill. Holman Christian Standard Bible Then Nathan went home. The LORD struck the baby that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. American Standard Version And Nathan departed unto his house. And Jehovah struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick. Aramaic Bible in Plain English And Nathan went to his house, and LORD JEHOVAH struck the boy whom the wife of Uriah the Khitite delivered to David, and he was sick Brenton Septuagint Translation And Nathan departed to his house. And the Lord smote the child, which the wife of Urias the Chettite bore to David, and it was ill. Contemporary English Version Then Nathan went back home. The LORD made David's young son very sick. Douay-Rheims Bible And Nathan returned to his house. The Lord also struck the child which the wife of Urias had borne to David, and his life was despaired of. English Revised Version And Nathan departed unto his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick. GOD'S WORD® Translation Then Nathan went home. The LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife had given birth to for David so that the child became sick. Good News Translation Then Nathan went home. The LORD caused the child that Uriah's wife had borne to David to become very sick. International Standard Version Then Nathan went home. After this, the LORD afflicted the child that Uriah's wife had born to David, and the child became very ill. JPS Tanakh 1917 And Nathan departed unto his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bore unto David, and it was very sick. Literal Standard Version And Nathan goes to his house, and YHWH strikes the boy, whom the wife of Uriah has borne to David, and it is incurable; Majority Standard Bible After Nathan had gone home, the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. New American Bible Then Nathan returned to his house. The LORD struck the child that the wife of Uriah had borne to David, and it became desperately ill. NET Bible Then Nathan went to his home. The LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife had borne to David, and the child became very ill. New Revised Standard Version Then Nathan went to his house. The LORD struck the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and it became very ill. New Heart English Bible Then Nathan went to his home. And God struck the child that Uriah's wife bore to David, and it was very sick. Webster's Bible Translation And Nathan departed to his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bore to David, and it was very sick. World English Bible Then Nathan departed to his house. Yahweh struck the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and he was very sick.

@connormusic9274 Жыл бұрын

Your ignorance of the Bible is profound; but you’re right about JW’s becoming idol worshippers. They now worship their self-proclaimed “faithful and discreet slave”, their “governing body” of Pharisees who set their own rules up above the Christ; who is true Head if the congregation. (Ephesians 5:23)

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

I’m curious, I’m which way is my Biblical ignorance profound

@connormusic9274 Жыл бұрын

As a Biblical school instructor and researcher for the JW's for over 40 years; you learn not to oversimplify conclusions, but allow the entire 66 inspired books of the Holy Scriptures to enlighten you. Jehovah is a distinct spiritual person with definitive qualities. He is not an "omnipresent" abstract impersonal force residing in all creation. His name means, "He causes to become"; and this signifies that he can choose to become what He needs to, to accomplish His purpose. He can also direct His holy spirit; or active force, to become operative upon any human activity or spiritual activity in heaven or on earth, that He wants it to be. As for omniscience; God selectively chooses to exercise His ability to foresee outcomes and the future when it suits His lofty purposes. The events in the Garden of Eden were later shown throughout the scriptures as time elapsed, that a rebellion had taken place in heaven, the one called Satan the Devil; meaning "resistor", had challenged God's right to rule, questioning His way of rulership, and the reasons humans should render Him worship. The scriptures throughout the Bible teach that rather than destroy the rebels; God chose to allow a great deal of time to settle this issue so that once and for all time, those that lived could see the wisdom of God's rulership or choose to live for their own selfish desires and witness the outcome of men governing men. As for omnipotence; just because God has infinite powers, that doesn't mean He always chooses to use them. His primary quality of wisdom dictates when and how he expresses His power. The same way a strong man chooses to display love toward those in his family or those of his circle of friends; rather than always trying to assert his strength over them. This is just a summary of the derived conclusions on what the Bible teaches on those matters; and could take hours of reading scriptures to you which have drawn me and millions of others to these conclusions Ask an experienced JW elder; say one who's been serving for at least 20 years, for more details. It would take too many references to list here to explain these conclusions. But sadly, the organization has confused their loyalty these days between the governing body and Jehovah. They have made these men their God, and that's why it's hard for me to go back to this organization. Good luck in your quest for accurate knowledge of God. John 17: 3.@@LightoverDarkMinistry

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

@@connormusic9274 Thanks for the response. I would love to talk with you. You seem to have an interesting perspective.

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

@@connormusic9274 You are mistaken. No one is making any GB their God. Remember we are to be obedient to those taking the lead among us as Hebrews says. Who would you allow to do that for you now? Please come back. 1 Corinthians 1:10 is the aim even though we are all imperfect and damaged goods.

@connormusic9274 3 ай бұрын

@@NickHawaii uh, no I'm not mistaken. I was an active member for over 55 years and served as a Bethelite and elder/MS for 26 years. Then I was expelled over the personal opinions of 2-3 misguided and untaught elders. Did nothing scripturally wrong, but was harassed by an authoritarian elder making his own definition of "sin". Misapplying counsel from the elder's manual written by men who impose their own opinions instead of sticking to inspired scriptural directions. And Yes, you make the GB a god when you place their directives over and above those of Jesus Christ. If you go on and read verses 11-13 of the very same chapter you just referenced at 1 Corinth. 1; you see how the apostle Paul counseled the Christians about following men over Christ! Some were saying, "well because Paul taught me the truth, I follow him." ....Or because Apollos taught me the truth, I follow him first;",...or because Cephas taught me, I will follow him first." "Were you baptized in the name of Paul? Were you baptized in the name of Peter?, ".....and the point could be applied to saying, "I belong to the "faithful slave", or "I belong to the organization over anything else".."Was Paul impaled for you?",...was Peter impaled for you?".......Or "was the governing body impaled for you?" Was the self proclaimed "Faithful and discreet slave" impaled for you? DO YOU GET THE POINT? Yet this is what is happening in the JW organization today. It wasn't until video came to JW Broadcasting and this current governing body proclaimed themselves to be THE ONLY FAITHFUL/DISCREET SLAVE in about 2013 that this inordinate adoration for these men or others began to creep into the psyche of JW members. And with regards to your quote from Hebrews 13: 7, 17; I don't have a problem obeying those overseeing a particular work. But once again; you, like so many of the JW leaders; DON'T READ THE CONTEXT OF THE SCRIPTURES YOU EMPLOY TO MAKE A POINT! Verse 7 admonishes,.."and as YOU CONTEMPLATE HOW THEIR CONDUCT TURNS OUT, imitate THEIR FAITH." We don't imitate their personality or opinions of conscience! IF THEIR CONDUCT TURNS OUT TO HARM OTHERS, OR CAUSE DIVISIONS AND BREAK UP FAMILIES AND SLANDER THE PERSON THEY DF'D; then why would I obey them? When you contemplate "how their conduct turns out" you find thru thousands of personal testimonials of judicial cases right here on YT, that THOUSANDS OF PRECIOUS JW LIVES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED over the personal actions and opinions of elders who follow men instead of Jesus Christ, the Head of the Congregation! Thousands have committed suicide from the forced shunning and isolation from their dear families and friends! Thousands of others have succumbed to alcohol, drug abuse, and other harmful addictions because they were not shown mercy, compassion, and Christlike judgements/treatment! Verse 17 of Hebrews 13 states that these same men "WILL RENDER AN ACCOUNTING BEFORE JESUS AND HIS FATHER!! GEE, I wonder how these clowns who somehow remain elders feel about coming face to face with the sword of Michael and his armies at Armageddon?? They have deliberately cast their own members out into the very world of bad association that they condemn! And they expect this act to cause them to come back and kiss the same feet of these tyrannical pharisees who expelled them in the FIRST PLACE??? NO WE DON'T OBEY THOSE WHOSE CONDUCT TURNS OUT TO BE ABUSIVE, DIVISIVE, AND SPIRITUALLY HARMFUL TO JEHOVAH'S SHEEP! Start listening to the words of scripture, brother/sister; the words of the inspired apostles, Jesus himself, and our God Jehovah; instead of the words of men! Jeremiah 17: 5;,....Psalm 146: 3, 4.

@bigzachful Жыл бұрын

In your Bible God literally declares his name Jehova! Look rn

@suntzu7691 4 ай бұрын

No not worshipping the watchtower! JW's don't worship Jesus like you do. . When Jesus himself said only worship God ! . . So who's worshipping a false God. You are !!!

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

Yep! Worship the God Jesus did. Jehovah is His Name.

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

rOM 1:25 IS TALKING OF GOD who is the CREATOR. Jesus is A CREATION, AND called MADE, GIVEN LIFE, COME INTO BEING, BORN in the BIBLE, and NEVER CALLED CREATOR NOR MAKER. and Even Jesus said I DO NOT ACCEPT GLORY FROM MEN- John 5:41, so you rejected Jesus and worshipped him as GOD Almighty instead of the REAL CREATOR, the FATHER, whom Jesus mentions that the true worshippers will worship

@Mr.DC3..1941 Жыл бұрын

Mr D C, no one cares about your strange behaviour anymore. Please find another outlet for your JW rage. 1914: a year nothing happened in the spiritual realm. Jesus did not come back invisibly. If He did, prove it with photographic evidence.

@TheVelvetteButterfly Жыл бұрын

Jesus is the creator but not called “the creator”?

@Mr.DC3..1941 Жыл бұрын

@@TheVelvetteButterfly roses are red, violets are blue, You are a troll, and I have blocked you too.

@TheVelvetteButterfly Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.DC3..1941 You’re kidding right?

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@TheVelvetteButterfly THE CREATOR or CREATOR or MAKER, those terms are NEVER used for Jesus in the BIble while for Jehovah he was called those.

@mavrosyvannah Ай бұрын

There are no false gods. Why? Because there has never been any kind of god for any reason or non reason. None. Ever.

@Steven-nd1pz Жыл бұрын

This video is highly flawed. God closely monitors His creation, but not to the nth degree. He doesn't read every email sent for example. I know this from personal experience. Plus God is not above basic reality. The metal copper has a certain hardness, melting point, electrical conductivity etc. He honors this since efficacy cannot be achieved otherwise. This also means that God cannot predict what anyone will do in the future since He honors their free moral agency. This authors ideas appears in many books, but they are a blend of truth and error, as is commonly the case with religion.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

You know the mind of God and the limits of his omniscients by personal experience?

@davidscott2809 10 ай бұрын

You obviously don't understand the person of Jehovah, his power and might, gods spirit is available to all who need it. We only continue to exist through the spirit. If god came here physically on earth there would be no earth! Your taking the teachings out of context.

@LightoverDarkMinistry 10 ай бұрын

Can you show me where I’m teaching out of context? Also wasn’t God walking in the Garden of Eden in Genesis 3?

@davidscott2809 9 ай бұрын

@JWAEXPOSE what's your point here?

@watchtowerdefence571 9 ай бұрын

seems you have the problem Jehovah is all powerful. He is not omniscient nor omnipresent. Jehovah IS a spirit not the spirit. You add our own ideas to the text Shame on you.

@LightoverDarkMinistry 9 ай бұрын

Instead of just saying I’m wrong, prove it with scripture. Not saying this in mean way, but your words mean nothing. I provided some texts in the content showing how the JW’s are wrong, if this was incorrect, show me how using the Word of God only, not the ideas of men.

@watchtowerdefence571 9 ай бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry no you did not prove anything. You read into materion your own ideas.

@LightoverDarkMinistry 9 ай бұрын

@@watchtowerdefence571 Respectfully, if you think I misrepresented the JW position and believe the evidence I presented is inaccurate you are more than welcome to counter this. I would love to talk about it with you if you would like. You can find me email in the “about” section. I look forward to hearing from you.

@skinnyandshort7108 9 ай бұрын

Anyone that believes in the trinity is just lost. The teaching is so easy to debunk, no where close does the bible teach a trinity.

@LightoverDarkMinistry 9 ай бұрын

Well, go on. Debunk it.

@skinnyandshort7108 9 ай бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry Before I do, first tell me what you believe the trinity is in detail as Christians seem to have different ideas of what the trinity is. Is it One god that takes on the role of 3 different persons? Is it 3 separate gods that all are in agreement with each other so they say they are one? Something else?

@LightoverDarkMinistry 9 ай бұрын

@@skinnyandshort7108 Christians are monotheists. The Trinity doctrine is defined as One being of God in 3 co-equal, co-eternal distinct persons. The 3 Gods is a Mormon belief and not a Christian doctrine, nor ever has been.

@skinnyandshort7108 9 ай бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry That's really confusing, on the one hand you said there is "One being of God in 3 co-equal persons" What is the difference with One being of god and 3 persons? Is it literally just one god taking on the role of 3 persons? Or is it literally 3 gods/persons that are equal with each other?

@LightoverDarkMinistry 9 ай бұрын

First, are you a JW? In response, a person is just something that has personhood, mainly communication, thoughts, will etc. One God who can be in heaven on his thrown outside of the universe, and at the same time, walk and speak on earth, and live within those he's called to be his children. @@skinnyandshort7108

@geraldsutton9981 Жыл бұрын

The senseless one has said in his heart "There is no Jehovah." They have acted ruinously, they have acted detestably in [their] dealing. There is no one doing good. (Psalms 14:1) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why Was Jehovah’s Name Removed From The Bible..???? First off, it was a MISTAKE to remove God's Name from the bible. WHY ? As Author of the Bible, Only God himself has the right to change or alter the Bible. God himself gave mankind a warning in his own Word The Bible to NOT add to NOR take away from his Words. This Is My Name Forever. Ex : 15 Those who study ancient Hebrew Bible manuscripts, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, are struck by the many occurrences of the Tetragrammatonthe four Hebrew letters that represent Gods name. The divine name appears not only in those ancient Hebrew manuscripts but also in some copies of the Greek from the second century B.C.E. through the first century C.E. Despite the clear evidence that the personal name of God belongs in the Bible, many translations completely omit the sacred name of God. In 1952, the Revised Standard Version was published. That version omitted the name, reversing the policy of the editors of the American Standard Version of 1901. Why? The preface says: The use of any proper name for the one and only God . . . is entirely inappropriate for the universal faith of the Christian Church. That set a pattern for many subsequent translations, English and non-English. w15 12/15 2:3-5 Excerpts from the Psalms in a Dead Sea Scroll dated to the first half of the first century C.E. The text is in the style of the Hebrew letters commonly used after the Babylonian exile, but the Tetragrammaton appears repeatedly in distinctive ancient Hebrew letters Why Do Some Bible Translations Not Use The Name Jehovah For God Jehovah is a pronunciation of the Hebrew consonants of YHWH and the vowels of Adonai . When the Hebrew Bible was first written down in the Hebrew language, they wrote only with consonants, not vowels. So the sacred Name of God was written YHWH and likely was pronounced Yahweh. For millennia, Jews have gone to great lengths to avoid misusing the Name of their God, as he commanded them at the mountain after he delivered them from Egypt. At some point, ancient Jews began saying Adonai when they saw YHWH. It wasn't until the 10th century that a group of scholars called the Masoretic sect, put vowels into the Hebrew text of the First Testament. They left the consonants YHWH in 7,000+ locations to show it was Gods Name. But they added the vowels of Adonai to the consonants to show later generations how to pronounce the word: Adonai. So Jehovah is a pronunciation of the vowels and consonants as they appear in the Masoretic Text, though it is not how the Jews would have known the Name of God. Out of respect for the Jewish tradition of not uttering the sacred Name of God, the Committee on Bible Translation for the NIV have chosen to display every instance of the Name YHWH in the Hebrew Bible as Lord. Based on this commandment, Second Temple Judaism by the Hellenistic period developed a taboo of pronouncing the name Yahweh at all, resulting in the replacement of the Tetragrammaton by “Adonai” in pronunciation. In the Hebrew Bible itself, the commandment is directed against abuse of the name of God, not against any use there are numerous examples in the Hebrew Bible and a few in the New Testament where God’s name is called upon in oaths to tell the truth or to support the truth of the statement being sworn to, and the books of Daniel and Revelation include instances where an angel sent by God invokes the name of God to support the truth of apocalyptic revelations. God himself is presented as swearing by his own name to guarantee the certainty of various events foretold through the prophets. The Pope told an audience during an event celebrating a new version of the Torah that his decision to upend over fifteen hundred years of secrecy was driven in part by a need for greater transparency within the Catholic Church. It is a scandal to say one thing and do another, declared Pope Francis before adding that the Church is leading a double life by continuing to keep Gods name secret. A source inside the Vatican Secret Archives told Sky News that the Church first became aware of the scrolls existence in the fifth century. The scrolls were uncovered by the Romans during siege of Jerusalem and the subsequent destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D. Nearly four centuries came to pass before Rome would hand over control of the scrolls to the Church in 463 A.D., the source explained. Upon inspection, Pope St. Hilarius issued a decree striking any mention of Gods name from official Church literature.

@kardiognostesministries8150 Жыл бұрын

Proof?

@geraldsutton9981 Жыл бұрын

@@kardiognostesministries8150 You got a computer do a search on Who and Why was Jehovah's name taken out of the bible....!!!! That's how I found out.....

@kardiognostesministries8150 Жыл бұрын

@@geraldsutton9981 No, I am not doing your homework for you. Those who assert must prove.

@geraldsutton9981 Жыл бұрын

@@kardiognostesministries8150 Four seconds into video and up pops the idol of the catholic religion, the sign of Tammuz,(the cross), the re-incarnated Nimrod, so the story goes........(see Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop) I'll stick with the Father,...... David singing......"He himself calls out to me, 'You are my Father. My God and the Rock of my salvation. (Ps. 89:26); And now, O Jehovah, you are our Father. We are the clay, and you are our potter, and all of us are the work of your hand. (Isa. 64:8).......

@geraldsutton9981 Жыл бұрын

Oh yea, Jesus spoke highly of the Father also......

@gideonopyotuadebo2304 Ай бұрын

The trinitarians are lying idolaters Only those that acknowledge, call, fear, sacrifice to, bow down (worship) and serve only Yehovah as the God are Godly and not idolaters.

@misterauctor7353 Ай бұрын

Proof?

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

Jesus is NOT God himself. Hosea 11:9 states "For I am God and not man,The Holy One in your midst;" GOD is NOT MAN/HUMAN. And GOD does not change, so are you thinking GOD is a liar and changed?

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

blasphemer! JEHOVAH IS NOT A FALSE god. Ezekiel 22:16 And you will be dishonored before the nations, and you will have to know that I am Jehovah.’” Ezekiel 39:22 From that day on the house of Israel will have to know that I am Jehovah their God.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

Did you take your meds this morning?

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry you are the one who shd take pills for your lies and madness. and you cannot take the NAME JEHOVAH IN WHOSE NAME WE CAN BE SAVED, JOEL 2:32. What does the BIBLE CALL THOSE WHO DENY THE FATHER, JEHOVAH? ISA 63:16? tell us! it is called an ANTICHRIST, and you are doing the works of that ANTICHRIST

@bigcorky4687 Жыл бұрын

A guy with an imaginary friend criticising another person's belief in their imaginary friend 😂😂

@777Tralfaz777 Жыл бұрын

Omnipresence is not a scriptural teaching. (Matthew 6:9) “You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Notice Jesus did not say, "our Father who is everywhere". We cannot escape His notice, as he is all knowing, the Bible shows His presence is specific. (Hebrews 9:24) For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, so that he now appears before God on our behalf. JW do believe Jehovah is all knowing and all powerful. So, this video is outright lying. Because God allows a temporary condition for a time, like Satan being the god of this system of things, is not proof of a lack of being Almighty. But an aspect of being all knowing and wise.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

Did God know who would betray Jesus?

@777Tralfaz777 Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry I do not know. I do *not* believe all knowing means knowing every detail of everything that will happen in the future. While God can specifically know details of future events, I believe He can let things play out, and choose to not look into certain future events. Like with Adam. If God created Adam knowing he would sin, then God is complicate in bringing sin and death into the world. And placing the tree of life in the garden would be tantamount to teasing Adam of what he could never have. God is not evil. The choice was theirs, as it is ours. The defect was theirs, not His. What you propose is unalterable fate. I believe we have free will and can choose.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

@@777Tralfaz777 Well I believe in free will as well. God knowing everything past present and future, doesn't mean that he planned it all out that way.

@777Tralfaz777 Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry It kind of means it is on an unalterable path. While God can maneuver things, like bringing the kingdom to replace human governments, it is up to us to choose if we want to be there, by how we live our life now.

@davidscott2809 2 ай бұрын

Jehovah doesn't have to be omnipresent, that's what the holy spirit and angels are for.

@ijrao8093 3 ай бұрын

The author absolutely has no knowledge of Bible.

@LightoverDarkMinistry 3 ай бұрын

Hi. Author here. What do you mean?

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5

@Ronaldoluiznazario 3 ай бұрын

Frankly, it is a "false god" for all religions. There is no "god".....😅😅😅

@mavrosyvannah Ай бұрын

I call God a virus of the neocortex. Seems none of the other great Apes suffer the virus that controls its host with hormones and delusional connections to events and feelings they attribute to IT.

@suntzu7691 6 ай бұрын

This whole video is a big fat lie. . All of you in here need to just talk to a JW instead of listening to this liar. . .. He is twisting things just enough to make it seem he's right and they are crazy. . I betcha this fella got removed from the congregation because of his own willful actions and is now big mad

@LightoverDarkMinistry 6 ай бұрын

Nope. Was never a witness. Tell me something, which part was a lie. You can disagree with my interpretation of scripture but which part was I lying to people.

@Emperor_famous 6 ай бұрын

Where js he lieing exactly bro

@misterauctor7353 4 ай бұрын

@@suntzu7691 How is it a big fat lie?

@NickHawaii 4 ай бұрын

Jehovah is the God of gods. Dangerous business to say he is false. Not a good idea.

@ODesertotemVoz 4 ай бұрын

Jehovah is actually Jesus Christ. The King of Kings. The God of Gods. The God almighty.

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

@@ODesertotemVoz Really? But what about passages like these? Please take time to read them. Psalm 2:2; Psalm 110:1 Micah 5:4 tells us Jehovah is the God of the Messiah we know as Jesus. Who does Jehovah anoint in Isaiah 61:1? Doesn’t make me think Jesus is Jehovah but Jehovah is the God and Father of Jesus.

@ansandoval2003 3 ай бұрын

Is that supposed to scare us 😂

@NickHawaii 3 ай бұрын

@@ansandoval2003 Hebrews 10:31, “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”-KJV Who is the living God again? See Jeremiah 10:10. Leave God’s name in it. “..Jehovah is the true God; he is the living God..”-ASV

@ansandoval2003 3 ай бұрын

@@NickHawaii you do you boo boo.

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

Is Jesus ALL KNOWING? there were things before that he did not know. so stop your lies - Matthew 24:36: “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens NOR the SON , but only the Father.”

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

So Jesus didn’t know one thing about the future, and Jehovah you believe didn’t know anything about the future before man? Is that your position?

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry STOP TWISTING AND telling lies. Both Jesus and Jehovah KNOW and has the POWER TO KNOW what they want to know even the future and what they want, Does NOT mean they NEED TO BE STUCKED on KNOWING EVERYTHING. Mat 24:36 shows even Jesus DID NOT KNOW considering for you Jesus is GOD-MAN and all knowing, so for you Mat 24 is a LIE.

@LightoverDarkMinistry Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 You know I cut out caffeine recently and the changes have been very beneficial to my health and mental stability. Just a suggestion.

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@LightoverDarkMinistry VERY SIMPLE which DISPROVES YOUR LIES. Mat 24:36 shows even Jesus DID NOT KNOW considering for you Jesus is GOD-MAN and all knowing, so for you Mat 24 is a LIE.

@terridovey7648 Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 Hi MrD!🙋‍♀️ We've had this conversation before. The Father and Jesus are both omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. I'm assuming you haven't researched the definitions. My heart still breaks for you my friend. I'm also praying for you. You do not have the same God as Christians do. Your god is limited to the org. Your jesus is Michael the archangel. I'm not positive what your holy spirit does for the org. Can you tell me why your beliefs are opposite of Christian beliefs? I'm very interested in this. Can you explain it please? Thanks my friend. Love always to you.🍃✝️🍃🪻

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@RowanTasmanian Жыл бұрын

Another pagan idea that you are trying to promulgate. Saying Jehovah is not all knowing and all powerful is really the last straw Del. You push too many pagan ideas on this forum. It's quite disgraceful. Jehovah is omniscient and omnipresent. Your view of Jehovah is very similar to the Mormons. Very Pagan,

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@@RowanTasmanian Numbers 14:42 Do not go up, for Jehovah is not with you; and you will be defeated by your enemies.

@RowanTasmanian Жыл бұрын

@Mr. D. C. thank you for your comment. My belief is Jehovah is all powerful all knowing and all through the universe, but not a part of the universe. Thank you.

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

@@RowanTasmanian so does Jehovah have control over his own mind?

@Scott-t2p Жыл бұрын

@@mr.d.c.1914.1 God wasn't sure Deuteronomy 8:2 KJV

@mr.d.c.1914.1 Жыл бұрын

@wylolister3218 Жыл бұрын

Bible truth vs JWs "truth"? "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4 *Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower (Yes, expectations with false dates!) "Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added (any scriptures for this "admitting to mistakes" means they aren't false teachings, false prophecies?) Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are still Bible defined false prophecies (Deut 18:20-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond and added to scripture. "suggested dates, wrong expectations" in God's name? yes, these ARE false prophecies from the Jehovah Witness Organization. God's channel of communications, his voice on earth, God's mouthpiece, JWs? Nope, just a false religion!