As an atheist who used to be a Jehovah's Witness for nearly my entire life, I must say, you explain the JW beliefs very well. You also contrast the JW beliefs from what I have learned to be actual Christianity beliefs (for the most part). I do not believe that Christianity is true or that religion is the best way to live. However, folks like you who are trying to help people need to be commended, and I commend you. Please keep up the good work.
@aaronwood80123 ай бұрын
“…..noooooo! NO!” My favorite bit every time
@Arthur-g3s1m3 ай бұрын
My wife’s JW mother died three days ago. My wife was disfellowshipped more than 40 years ago and as a result has been shunned by her entire JW family since then. Her JW father is devastated and finally opened the door and called my wife yesterday. This is good, but she has not been allowed to see her mom for years. Her mother’s illness was kept a secret from us, so it was an unexpected death. My wife was not able to say goodbye to her mother and they only live three miles from us. Their unscriptural shunning practice is the very definition of evil.
@elly75193 ай бұрын
That is heartbreaking. I am so sorry for what your wife has been through. Wt is unloving, and cruel. So sorry. I hope she and her Dad can heal together. 🙏
@amc34633 ай бұрын
Sad bro all they do is brake up families I hope you and your wife find peace 🙏🏽
@tongakhan2302 ай бұрын
That doesn't sound right. Disfellowshipped children can always see their parents. It is probably a feeling of shame that keeps the children away. Matthew 10:37 Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. Catch Jesus and ask him why he said this.
@elly75192 ай бұрын
@@tongakhan230 Your disgusting distortion of verse proves who you really represent. And that is wt. That verse is about following Jesus. In doing that Christians who disavow wt will be shunned by jws. In that refusal to obey the fake slave many people have lost their families and are labeled apostate to the org. We are NOT apostate to Jesus. You are so confused. We have caught up to Jesus. Please do the same
@elly75192 ай бұрын
@@tongakhan230 And your lack of compassion in your statement, trying to victim blame is what is shameful.
@rhondahart24162 ай бұрын
Awesome vid! Bless you my brother in Christ!
@lynb_113 ай бұрын
How can I explain this… I was raised by a JW mom. She was also raised with jw teachings since the age of 9. Growing up I didn’t know any other belief, sometimes I would sneak to watch Billy Graham on Tv. My mom stoped going to meetings when I was 11 but she still kept their beliefs. So I grew up with the same but I never wanted to be one . I just couldn’t something never seemed right. As the years went by I noticed my mom slowly pulled away from the JW beliefs. I didn’t attend meetings I only visited a few times. My mom was diagnosed with a terminal illness and decided to not do any treatments. A week before she passed she said the JW was a cult. They were not the truth. I’ve been trying to find the real truth. I have found many videos that have helped me see Jesus is the way. It feels like I was in a dark room and slowly a light turns on, as I learn more another light . I thought my room was well lit but now this video… this video just made it so much brighter, I didn’t even realize I was still kind of thinking that way. Thank you so much for your videos!
@CherylArsenault1233 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that about your mom. The only truth is God's word. The only covenant that we are in, if we are in Christ Jesus the Lord is the new covenant aka NT. I prefer the KJV, I was able to interpret scripture from scripture better but only after praying to God for the truth. Whatever we need to know is written in his word, the Bible. It takes time and is well worth it. His word is the sword of the Spirit, it protects us from false teachings. God bless you.
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@ucanliv4ever3 ай бұрын
There's a lady who's sure All that glitters is gold And she's buying a stairway to heaven
@evanwindom3 ай бұрын
@@ucanliv4ever Says the guy selling the iron pyrite.
@lynb_113 ай бұрын
@@ucanliv4ever are you saying I’m telling fibs? Wow. Sir I am not. But you have demonstrated another form of JW abuse, if you tell your story they automatically say you are lying.
@joJo569762 ай бұрын
Une des meilleurs vidéos!!! Les images à la fin! Puissant. Merci mon frère!
@georgebrown83123 ай бұрын
Amen to that. Thank you for exposing the hypocrisy and false teachings of the Watchtower Society.
@Mr.DC3.19142 ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@elly75193 ай бұрын
You are so right. As an exjw I have been repeatedly told I am of Satan. Why? Because I made my stand in, with, and for our Savior. The only one. Christ. They sell Satan way more than they do the power of Christ. In my 30 year seat at the kh he was a bigger deal than Jesus. I was terrified of him until I gained Christ and dumped the gb.
@CherylArsenault1233 ай бұрын
Praise God and the Lord that you got out of there and into God our Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. I had an elderly neighbour lady of the JW's tell me that I was listening to Satan after I mentioned that the Lord was going to burn this earth including a third of the trees and all the green grass. Why? Because she would rather believe the lies of men (paradise on earth no burning or destruction of it) and not the Lord Jesus and his words. I told her it was written in the NT but that didn't phase her. 2 Peter 3:10-13 King James Version 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. ....... Revelation 8:7 King James Version 7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
@elly75193 ай бұрын
@@CherylArsenault123 Thank you Cheryl. I have been out of wt for many years . Grateful for every single one. Jws are trained and baptized to wt and they must accept the gb interpretation of verse. No matter if they made dozens of false predictions and push false teachings as absolute truths all while claiming that they alone had God's backing. Its so..ridiculous huh? Keep up the effort to talk with them. Have a blessed day.
@CherylArsenault1233 ай бұрын
@@elly7519 It's absolutely crazy to most Christians when we hear what really goes on in there, from those who got out like yourself who came to the only Saviour, our Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you....I wish you a blessed day as well.
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
when YOU REJECT THE FATHER, JEHOVAH AS SALVATION, then you are REJECTING THE FATHER AND thus teaching the ANTICHRIST'S TEACHINGS. SALVATION WE OWE FROM GOD AND THE LAMB, rev 7:9-10, that's TWO PERSONS
@mattgardiner6143 ай бұрын
@@Mr.DC3.1914 They always seemingly ignore the multitude of verses than talk of God and Christ that call the Father God and Jesus something else. (Not God) Examples Acts 11:17; Romans 5:11; 1 Timothy 2:5; 2 Timothy 4:1.
@NewCreationInChrist8963 ай бұрын
Revelation 20:10 “The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
@tongakhan2302 ай бұрын
Matthew 8:29 And look! they (the demons) screamed, saying: “What have we to do with you, Son of God? Did you come here to torment us before the appointed time?” Torment means to destroy. The Greek has that meaning.
@bethanymargason83833 ай бұрын
Good morning DH! Thank you for another new video! Can you please do a video on the two witness rule? Many former members claim that this rule has been used to cover up the sins of child molestation. The victims need justice.
@LightoverDarkMinistry3 ай бұрын
Yes! I plan to do a video on their treatment of children and the 2 witness rule will be apart of that. That’s scheduled for October after the next content I do which is on the JW’s and their political neutrality.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry You're straight up disgusting bro.
@NewCreationInChrist8963 ай бұрын
Revelation 21:8 “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
@markshark16133 ай бұрын
The handful of watchtower "apologists" that one finds on these channels will surely arrive very soon! On that note, I was told that they aren't allowed to engage with apostates or the "evil system of Christendom"?
@RowanTasmanian3 ай бұрын
Great point Mark. As my mate on this channel (Rich Baker) says "The trolls will come"
@anonymousprofessor88663 ай бұрын
These apologist are not active JWs in good standing. They are disfellowship'd jw trolls in limbo.
@RowanTasmanian3 ай бұрын
@@anonymousprofessor8866 G'day mate, always nice to hear from you and see your comments. Are you saying these "apologist" for the J-Dubs have been kicked out and are brown nosing their way back ???? I would be interested in your views. Thanks again.
@mattgardiner6143 ай бұрын
@@anonymousprofessor8866 Utter garbage. I am not disfellowshipped. At least three elders in my congregation know what I have been doing. And the only advice I was given was to "Be careful". Please stop presenting your unfound claims as facts.
@anonymousprofessor88663 ай бұрын
@@mattgardiner614 So you are a JWs in good standing with your congregation? My apologies but I have encountered many JWs apologists on YT and not one has ever answered my most sincere question. I have even had several Bible studies with 2 JWs elders in my last yr in college before graduating. They always evaded my questions. Huge red flag. Does the doctrine that JWs teach come 100% from the Bible "only" and not from a man's heart? Yes or No? And if Yes then can a JWs prove their doctrinal teachings through the providing scriptures? Yes or No? This is a very important question.
@MrPoohman19813 ай бұрын
Sheep are always fearful of the wolf only to be eaten by the shepherd…
@Cfalconeri3 ай бұрын
Thank you DH for another great video. I have come a long way since leaving the JW last year and am still learning new things. This really turned on more light for me as I never thought about Satan and the different view points between a Christian and a JW on the matter. I was still in some darkness regarding Satan and his power, this video really helped me out and it makes so much sense. I am having a hard time with knowing that I was in so much darkness as a JW and lied to for decades; more and more light keeps coming to me through ministries of people like you and at the Church I attend now. Thank you for what you do, it brings tears to my eyes as I see the true love of Christ now and I am finally saved. God bless you all out there that are reaching out! You don’t even realize how many it is helping to find Jesus our Lord and Savior.
@mattgardiner6143 ай бұрын
You were not in darkness. You WERE in the Truth. I hope you return. "...as though God were making an appeal through us. As substitutes for Christ, we beg: “Become reconciled to God.”" (2 Corinthians 5:20)
@misterauctor73533 ай бұрын
@@mattgardiner614He wasn't in the "truth", he was in darkness (WT).
@misterauctor73533 ай бұрын
@@mattgardiner614I hope you realize you are in a cult
@RowanTasmanian3 ай бұрын
@@mattgardiner614 Oh yes Matt, he was in the Truth, As long as he didn't ask any questions about all these mystery men who translated the NWT. OR Ask questions about why so many failed prophecies. OR why no police were called for the 1800 victims of CSA by the 1006 perpetrators in Australian Royal Commission. NOT ONE PHONE CALL TO POLICE. With TRUTH like that, is it any wonder he left.
@Cfalconeri3 ай бұрын
@@mattgardiner614 Sorry Matt, but you conflate being “reconciled to God” as reconciliation through the organization. Those men are not “substitutes for Christ” and that is another false translation, which is accurately translated as “ambassadors.” Changes the whole meaning and directs all hope through Christ to be reconciled to God and not these men, who have blasphemously declared themselves Gods mouthpieces. I pray that you can lay down your watchtower and all of their study aids and read the Bible with an open heart and mind.
@RowanTasmanian3 ай бұрын
Brilliant presentation again D H. The Watchtower have a very high view of Satan, this quote says it all from their founder C T Russell, he says "“A truth presented by Satan himself is just as true as a truth stated by God. . . . Accept truth wherever you find it, no matter what it contradicts.” WT 7/1879, pp. 8-9” This is why the WT accepts the testimony of 2 Spirit Mediums ie Johannes Greber and John S Thompson regarding John 1:1
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
YOU LIED AGAIN and as usual FOR YOU THE BIBLE IS DEMONIC when IT QUOTED THE DEMONS and called Jesus as THE SON OF GOD, Luke 4:41 Demons also came out of many, crying out and saying: “You are the Son of God.”
@ucanliv4ever3 ай бұрын
Wrong, you are twisting the truth
@RowanTasmanian3 ай бұрын
@@ucanliv4ever prove it
@ucanliv4ever3 ай бұрын
Questions From Readers ■ Why, in recent years, has The Watchtower not made use of the translation by the former Catholic priest, Johannes Greber? This translation was used occasionally in support of renderings of Matthew 27:52, 53 and John 1:1, as given in the New World Translation and other authoritative Bible versions. But as indicated in a foreword to the 1980 edition of The New Testament by Johannes Greber, this translator relied on “God’s Spirit World” to clarify for him how he should translate difficult passages. It is stated: “His wife, a medium of God’s Spiritworld was often instrumental in conveying the correct answers from God’s Messengers to Pastor Greber.” The Watchtower has deemed it improper to make use of a translation that has such a close rapport with spiritism. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) The scholarship that forms the basis for the rendering of the above-cited texts in the New World Translation is sound and for this reason does not depend at all on Greber’s translation for authority. Nothing is lost, therefore, by ceasing to use his New Testament. Watchtower 1983 4/1
@RowanTasmanian3 ай бұрын
@@ucanliv4ever this is going to be fun. When did the WT know Greber was a Spirit Medium?
@WakeingUp3 ай бұрын
Interesting and enlightening info. I will have to do some more research but it makes sense. Does the BORG have anything right? 😂
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@lonahulbin14933 ай бұрын
You have missed the biggest part and it is according to the watchtower. Jesus is the former brother of Satan. it’s in September 1, 1988 magazine page 13
@rhondahart24162 ай бұрын
What??!! I thought that was the LDS!
@tongakhan2302 ай бұрын
Not brother but fellow angel. Satan knew this, that he why he told Jesus "If you are a son of God then do this and that" - Matthew 4. (Job 1:6) Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them. The angel who became Jesus would definitely have been present at this heavenly conference.
@rhondahart24162 ай бұрын
@@tongakhan230 Tonga, I honestly just don't know what to say about the fact you are believing the same thing the Seventh day Adventists believe about Yeshua. You do realize that Charles T. Russell ripped off that belief of Yeshua being Michael the archangel from Ellen G. White and the SDA. When Russell left the SDA he took with him that belief and what you believe about the lake of fire because that was also the SDA's belief. If you would just use the internet to search ,you would find out that all of this WT stuff is a man made construct made up by Russell. The whole thing is a complete fake. You know how you guys insist that everyone of you all over the world believe the same thing? That's not true. When the Soviet Union fell the countries only had Rutherford's teachings and so the WT sent in people with new information and the people thought it was Apostate stuff and they rejected it. They have their own printing material and website. The reason for this is because you don't believe anything that Rutherford taught nor Russell. Why is that? Isn't the bible always the same? Malachi 3:6 I am YHWH and I do not change. Why does your stuff always change? Manmade construct!
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
@lonahulbin1493 Extremely ignorant statement. The term brother in the spiritual realm, isn't literal.
@rhondahart24162 ай бұрын
@@tongakhan230 Tonga, Son of God doesn't mean angel
@lilMidz2 ай бұрын
What about 1 Johannes 5-19?
@soundthealarm833 ай бұрын
The moment I found that Michael the Archangel was in fact not Jesus it really started to change my perspective on who Satan was. It really changes things in Revelation 12 when you realize that the creator of the universe rather than needing to go himself to battle Satan in Heaven to cast him out because he was too powerful sent Michael and his army to deal with him and his horde really nerfed Satan in my mind compared to what I grew up believing.
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
in Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@soundthealarm833 ай бұрын
@Mr.DC3.1914 a few notes: Firstly you pop into nearly every one of DHs videos. Many have debated and even debunked you. So I recognize the futility in it. However a few quick notes: Daniel 12:1 does not necessarily imply equivalence. For example you can have two kings, both called "The great" but that does not mean that they are the same. In Daniel 10:13 Michael is refered to as "One of the chief princes". Indicating 2 things. 1] there are multiple chief Princes 2]He is at the very least equal to the other chief Princes but serves a different function. In this case to protect Israel.
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
@@soundthealarm83 debunked? lol. Nope, they were debunked as guess what a lot of them blocked me as they were DEBUNKED, imagine how you guys have to prove 1=3? o my
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
Dan 10:13, the Hebrew word if you look at the Hebrew Interlinear or Hebrew, you can use bible hub, says LITERALLY, MICHAEL/one/[of] the Princes/Chief/came ... So, it literally means Michael One The Princes' Chief or in other words Michael is ONE CHIEF [also means BEGINNING] of the Princes, the word OF is for the Princes and NOT for the word chief, so Michael there is literally the ONE CHIEF/ONE BEGINNING of the Princes. Jesus is the BEGINNING of the Creation of GOD - Rev 3. So SAME BEGINNING, same SAR, same SAR that can RAISE UP THE DEAD - Dan 12:1-2 and same SAR that STAND UP for GOD's people - Dan 12:1 and Micah 5:4
@billjones2613 ай бұрын
Let it be understood that the JWS preach a tainted commercialized version of the Gospel as its core operations were involved with literature sales and proliferation. The men who created the organization's theological doctrines were also the top executive directors of the Watchtower Corporation publishing house. Its important to accept and realize that 1914 was first dated as the most likely year Armageddon would occur and this dating was done by Pyramidology by C T Russell when he ran and was the head writer for the Watchtower. All throughout the last 20th century the JWS preached that this living generation was "This Generation" written in scripture and they still teach that to this day.
@ucanliv4ever3 ай бұрын
There are still people alive that experienced ww1
@billjones2613 ай бұрын
@@ucanliv4ever So then you think the false doctrine of 1914 is scripturally valid ???? The JWS religion and its top leaders promote themselves by saying their organization is Jehovah's solemnly chosen one as promotional propaganda, this was done so strategically to bring a sense of validity to the writings and doctrines these men made up. Of course now we can see they were sinful false prophet apostates that the bible warns about and says that true Christians should not listen too. The entire JWS religion was founded upon false propaganda from the false theological teachings of Pyramidology (1914) but it helped in selling and distributing a lot of literature over the years, thanks impart to the freedom of religion in the United States too.
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
@billjones261 what makes it commercialized?? You sound like you know next to nothing about the organization, but go ahead.
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
@billjones261 Nope 1914 was definitely NOT predicted, as the first date when armageddon was most likely to occur.
@straight-narrow-path3 ай бұрын
1 John 5:19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. So if you don’t believe on the finished work of Christ and you add to the gospel by trying to keep all of Gods laws then Satan will blind your mind to the truth. How do we know we are Born again ? 1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. What does that mean ? 1 John 3: 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God Our spirit is born again and is saved when we believe on the finished work of Christ . The wages sin pays is death to the flesh but our spirit will receive a new sinless body .
@pearlytiger5643 ай бұрын
I too cringe when I hear “system of things” or “spirit organization,” or how about “in the truth,” like truth is some tangible thing that only a few can possess. Makes me want to 🤮. I cannot stand hearing it and I have to fight soo hard to not roll my eyes into the back of my head so bad that I would see my own brains.
@tongakhan2302 ай бұрын
That is probably because aside from JWs, others have been blocked from understanding the Bible. Matthew 13:11 In reply 'Jesus' said: “To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted. Thus, terms used by God's people may sound strange to others.
@pearlytiger5642 ай бұрын
@@tongakhan230 what makes you think JWs are not the ones who have been blocked, so to speak? How do you know the GB isn’t the evil slave? (Finish reading the rest of that parable where it talks about the good slave turning wicked). I have studied many religions, and with the exception of Mormons, never in my life have I come across such a group that strays so far from what the Bible and Christ teach while simultaneously calling themselves Christian. I have spoken to them several times in the past, and a question I ask time and time again is, “Where is that in the Bible?” and they cannot answer. Any scripture they site, I don’t just read that cherry-picked little snip. I read the whole chapter and surrounding verses. Much of the time, what is discussed in that chapter has absolutely nothing to do with what they are teaching. When I read the gospels, I don’t just read a lil snippet here and there. Read the whole thing through, start to finish.
@tongakhan2302 ай бұрын
@@pearlytiger564 : These very videos prove that JWs have the TRUTH. Else, why bother with them? Jesus had the same problem. The Jews just couldn't ignore Jesus. John 8:40 But now you are seeking to kill me, A MAN who has told you THE TRUTH THAT I HEARD FROM GOD. John 15:18 If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. (Ignoring JWs is not an option). IF JWs haven't the Truth, why bother asking them questions? Can I ask a simple Bible based question from someone who seems to point fingers at other's beliefs. Surely, one must be able to explain one's own belief. Let me know. Please.
@pearlytiger5642 ай бұрын
@@tongakhan230 first is you are using a comparison fallacy. Second, to answer your comparison fallacy question, they bother with the videos to prevent others from falling into this falsehood trap. We are commanded to contend for the faith and question everything like the Boreans. JWs are not allowed to question the GB and are told to blindly follow and obey, “even if it doesn’t make sense from a human or strategic standpoint …” The Bible warns us not to put our faith and trust in men who cannot save us, yet the GB spout lies that say only JWs have any kind of hope to see the Kingdom and if they don’t follow and obey these 9 men in New York, you are disobeying God. Blasphemy! Let us also not forget that your GB have commanded you not to even look at these videos and in doing so, you are disobeying God. That should concern you. The truth doesn’t mind being questioned. A lie hates being challenged and boy oh boy do JWs run away or try and song and dance around my questions.
@tongakhan2302 ай бұрын
@@pearlytiger564 : Leave all those accusations aside. Let me know if one can answer a simple Bible based question or not. Or is all this: Matthew 23:13 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut up the Kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, NEITHER do you permit those on their way in to go in.
@areuaware68423 ай бұрын
Why does that matter?
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
It doesn't. If you're a christian, you ARE supposed to believe satan rules this world presently. At best, this guy could make the argument that they take the danger too seriously. But that's opinion based and meaningless to a conversation of false doctrine.
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
@@areuaware6842 it doesn't
@st._joseph_of_arc3 ай бұрын
2:07 The Bible teaches that Satan challenges Jehovah's sovereignty by trying to get his only-begotten son to worship him *Matthew 4:10:* Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service. 4:43 The Bible teaches Satan will rule the world until the Second Coming *Ephesians 2:2:* In which you at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that is *now at work* in the sons of disobedience. *Revelations 20:10:* And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
@misterauctor73533 ай бұрын
The Bible doesn't teach that.
@mattgardiner6143 ай бұрын
@@misterauctor7353 Yeah it does. "And he said to him: “All these things I will give you if you fall down AND DO AN ACT OF WORSHIP TO ME." (Matthew 4:9)
@misterauctor73533 ай бұрын
@@mattgardiner614 No, it doesn't.
@strappedfatman78583 ай бұрын
The Subcontinent! The myth of the 4 elephants of a giant turtle or tortoise supporting or containing the world occurs in Hindu mythology, in Chinese mythology and in Native American mythology. This is the World and kingdoms that the four kingdoms of Alexander the Great could not conquer. It was prophesied in the Book of Daniel. Alexander the Great died after attacking India and his Kingdom was divided into four. And Rome became the 6th Kingdom in the Book of Revelation. There was other Kingdoms in the world. Matthew 4:8 Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to him: “All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”
@mattgardiner6143 ай бұрын
@@strappedfatman7858 I hope misterauctor reads your comment. When I quoted Matthew 4:9 to him, he denied the words. May you have better luck.
@rehcoorijola45983 ай бұрын
Everyone of us benefitted for the basic education in elementary school and we learned how to read, write and arithmetic.Likewise in religious group where we raised,we learned basic teaching about God,how to know, love and put faith on him.Religious organizations plays important role for the sense of Matthew 24:14.,But Almighty God seen the manipulation and exploitation by the rulers of religious organization to their members that's why in 2020 up to first semester of 2022, chapter 18 of the book of Revelation fulfills and the global COVID-19 pandemic ceased all religious events, activities, traditions, customs and occasions and give way to the vaccination of the anti COVID-19 vaccines that mandatorily imposed(revelation 13:16,17)by the world health organization of the united nations to all sorts of people worldwide.Those who learned about God, love and put faith on him from various religious organization where they belong,refused the mandatory vaccination of anti COVID-19 vaccines to show that they're no part of this world (John 17:24-16)All religious organizations,not only JW's,that patronizing and promoting the anti COVID-19 vaccines fall into the influence of Almighty God's adversary .If there's a religious group that refused the mandatory vaccination of anti COVID-19 vaccines is the one that is free from the devil.
@gmandofgod3 ай бұрын
The Yankees??? Really??? 😂😂😂. I think you meant the Red Sox. 😂
@davidmathiesen76863 ай бұрын
FUNNY
@mattgardiner6143 ай бұрын
I thought he was referring to northerners.
@jackpetersen72313 ай бұрын
haha the must funny thing is God makes an angle/spirit to lie for him to deceive a person (1 Kings 22:19-23)
@tenshiman14903 ай бұрын
Okay?
@strappedfatman78583 ай бұрын
Satan Believed Jesus would not die! How Satan is fooled! Did Satan know Jehovah God was going to resurrect Jesus from the dead! Satan did not know! Even Satan believed " For it is Written" Satan quoted Psalms 91:11-12. Because he thought he knew the future. Lol Matthew 4:5 Then the Devil took him along into the holy city, and he stationed him on the battlement of the temple 6 and said to him: “If you are a son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written: ‘He will give his angels a command concerning you,’ and, ‘They will carry you on their hands, so that you may not strike your foot against a stone.’ 10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” Matthew 27:41 In the same way also, the chief priests with the scribes and the elders began mocking him, saying: 42 “Others he saved; himself he cannot save! He is King of Israel; let him now come down off the torture stake, and we will believe in him. 43 He has put his trust in God; let Him now rescue him if He wants him, for he said, ‘I am God’s Son.’” 46 About the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” 47 At hearing this, some of those standing there began to say: “This man is calling E·liʹjah.” 48 And immediately one of them ran and took a sponge and soaked it in sour wine and put it on a reed and gave it to him to drink. 49 But the rest of them said: “Let him be! Let us see whether E·liʹjah comes to save him.” 50 Again Jesus called out with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit. Jesus died and was resurrected as a life-giving spirit! Jesus Christ is the last Adam. 1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
@Truth-f2q3 ай бұрын
At least they don't teach the Popes heresy called the 3 gods trinity
@tenshiman14903 ай бұрын
Ignorance. It shows if you really think the pope created that concept. But that's what a jw is taught so I understand.
@craigwilliams38233 ай бұрын
Heretical to whom😂
@skinnyandshort71083 ай бұрын
You are right.
@anonymousprofessor88663 ай бұрын
JWs have so many false teachings it's disturbing.
@MasterfulPeon3 ай бұрын
It’s not three Gods, it’s one, in 3 persons. There is only one God.
@Mr.DC3.19142 ай бұрын
GOD uses ECHAD in Deut 6:4 and Ecclesiastes says two are better than ONE - ECHAD. How many is ONE? it is NOT THREE. ONE flesh is also ECHAD for one, as it is FIGURATIVE. So the plain question for you, is if ECHAD for GOD is FIGURATIVE? NOPE. GOD is ONE. GOD IS ONE-ECHAD FATHER, one-ECHAD GOD - Mal 2:10, so you tell if THE FATHER IS COMPOSED of three persons when it called the Father as ONE-ECHAD FATHER. NOPE. Mal 2:10 shows THAT ONE GOD , IS ONE - ECHAD FATHER and NO OTHER persons are part of that ONE GOD
@archibaldo48733 ай бұрын
you might want to correct the cover picture ("their", not "THIER")
@LightoverDarkMinistry3 ай бұрын
And yet again I have proven to myself that multitasking isn't my strength.
@marthamoran928210 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@peterockbx2 ай бұрын
This is a common misrepresentation and unsubstantiated claims. How can Satan offer something without owning it? Did Jesus deny the fact that Satan had no right to offer the kingdoms of the world?
@LightoverDarkMinistry2 ай бұрын
He did have the kingdoms, and he was dethroned as Colossians said.
@peterockbx2 ай бұрын
@@LightoverDarkMinistry On The question of Gods sovereignty. The rulers of the nations of earth exercise limited rulership by toleration or permission of the sovereign lord Jehovah. These governments do not receive their authority from God or are not acting by reason of any grant of authority or power from him as it’s shown at Revelation 14:1,2 where the seven headed, ten horn wild beast is said to get its power and throne and authority from “the dragon, Satan the devil. Rev 12:9. If the wild beast still exists today this means Satan is the god of this system presently
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
@LightoverDarkMinistry Nonsense. If he was already dethroned, why is the world just as bad as it's ever been? In fact it's getting worse. What's your exegesis for this belief you have? Name the scripture.
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
@@peterockbx At what point do "common misrepresentations" become lies?? This guy gets so many things wrong, I can't give him the benefit of the doubt.
@LightoverDarkMinistry2 ай бұрын
@@MultipleGrievance Colossians 2:15 "He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him." I never said Satan doesn't have influence, I said he's not in heaven anymore or ruler of all nations. That being can still cause problems without having control. Here's another verse. Hebrews 2:14 "Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil." Christ defeated spiritual death ( far worse than physical death ) which was the work of the devil. He wanted humanity to have separation from God, Christ destroyed that work. He did so when he rose, defeating death.
@4a8p9x3 ай бұрын
There is nothing in the Book of Genesis to suggest that the serpent in the garden is anything but a serpent. Your video boils down to "Don't believe JW's unbiblical nonsense! Believe MY unbiblical nonsense!"
@LightoverDarkMinistry3 ай бұрын
Couple books I’ve read have some interesting perspectives. IP did some good content on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWO3Y5WNbceenKMsi=tiw16NMeHV-WK0PP
@4a8p9x3 ай бұрын
@@LightoverDarkMinistry Maybe you should have read the Bible
@LightoverDarkMinistry3 ай бұрын
@@4a8p9x Read that too. Also I’m learning Hebrew to really pull out every tidbit of information.
@4a8p9x3 ай бұрын
@@LightoverDarkMinistry Satan is not mentioned in the Hebrew version of Genesis either.
@MR-gx3gc3 ай бұрын
@@4a8p9x Since you are obviously very familiar with the true meaning of the biblical messages, you will certainly be able to unravel the mystery of the serpent in the Garden of Eden. In your theological opinion, who is to be identified with the serpent that, according to the account in Genesis, tempted Adam and Eve? Or do you think the report itself is a fairy tale.
@Mr.DC3.19142 ай бұрын
GOD IS ONE-ECHAD FATHER, one-ECHAD GOD - Mal 2:10, so you tell if THE FATHER IS COMPOSED of three persons when it called the Father as ONE-ECHAD FATHER. NOPE. Mal 2:10 shows THAT ONE GOD , IS ONE - ECHAD FATHER and NO OTHER persons are part of that ONE GOD
@Mr.DC3.1914Ай бұрын
IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE that pagans have a form of one being with MANY PERSONS for GOD and the difference in their ROLES. Remember LEGION in the Bible? -The SINGLE BEING appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he IS ONE.' Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
@jollygoodshow56083 ай бұрын
Excellant, but please don't exalt the devil with a capital D
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
Your reasoning is circular. A belief that Satan called God a liar and induced Adam and Eve to sin, can definitely be interpreted as him challenging God's right to rule mankind.
@misterauctor73532 ай бұрын
How?
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
@@misterauctor7353 Are you joking??
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
@@misterauctor7353 You think one of God's subordinate angels taking it upon himself to disobey divine law & interfere with God's purpose for mankind ISN'T a challenge to his right to rule??
@MultipleGrievance2 ай бұрын
@@misterauctor7353 Do yourself a favor and look up the definition of the word insubordination.
@misterauctor73532 ай бұрын
@@MultipleGrievance If Jesus wasn't God, then what was the point of him dying? The Bible says that only God can atone for sins.
@tongakhan2303 ай бұрын
All this poking at JWs beliefs proves what? It proves that JWs are the only Christians led by Jesus. If they hate you, remember that they hated me first, said Jesus.
@misterauctor73533 ай бұрын
No, it doesn't. Since no one cares about your cult.
@misterauctor73533 ай бұрын
Orthodox and catholics are the only Christinas led by Jesus.
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
@@misterauctor7353 so you think Catholics who worships IMAGES are led by Jesus to worship IMAGES. o my
@misterauctor73533 ай бұрын
@@Mr.DC3.1914 They don't worship images.
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
@@misterauctor7353 Catholics DON'T Worship images? They KISS those images. and when they pray, they kneel towards them, and CALL and pray to them whatever their saints name are, and the priests sometimes bring the images and the people will line up to touch and kiss the images. so yes, they WORSHIP the images
@Mr.DC3.19143 ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@Uthink_3 ай бұрын
nicely done, Jesus Christ is the king of kings according to the bible so must be ruling the world. If Jesus returned within the lifetime of his apostles as he said he would, then he cast satan into an abyss for a 1000 years and we are living in the period when satan was released and is trying to get back rulership as revelation says. so we are being lied to about time and seasons, satan and his organization is giving us new light because Jesus is the real light.
@tongakhan2302 ай бұрын
Jesus was never King of Kings. God has asked Jesus to sit and wait to be appointed King. Psalms 110:1. Now Jesus is King of Kings.
@Uthink_2 ай бұрын
@@tongakhan230. READ psalms 110:1 yourself you JW puppet. God told Jesus to sit on a throne until god placed his enemies because he is a king as a stool for his feet. how can Jesus sit on a throne and not be a king you fool! you are saying Jesus was a fake king. NO..WHERE does it say to wait to be appointed as king. You poor fool. Jesus said on his resurrection = that ALL authority has been granted to me in heaven and on earth. How could he have been made king in 1914? Satan's organization has misled you. Satan is the one trying to sanctify his position as god. Almighty God the Father is God, He does not need to prove anything! you are in a satanic trap.
@misterauctor73532 ай бұрын
@@tongakhan230Jesus was kings of kings.
@Uthink_2 ай бұрын
@@tongakhan230 so Jesus lied when he said he was King of Kings in Revelation, or has the Governing Body who are Satan's puppets been lying to you?
@tongakhan2302 ай бұрын
@@Uthink_ : How could the Revelation lie. The Revelation was about events 2,000 years into the future. Rev 1:10 By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day, The Lord's Day only began in 1914. The year Jesus was appointed King by God. After which Jesus appointed his chosen Steward group to look after all Jesus' disciples and affairs. Read Luke 12:42,43.
@Mr.DC3.19142 ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL