The Famous Legal Battle that Challenged the Boston Celtics & Changed the NBA

Brian Shaw details his legal dispute with the Boston Celtics.
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[@desean3402]

I’d never heard this story. Man shout out to B Shaw! Stories like this show people the business side

[@JY-wv2zm]

Probably one of the best nba storytellers. No adlibs, umms, know what I’m sayings etc.

[@dlgmdx]

He stood on business back then

[@bengrace5379]

he rly paved the way for future players to know its ok to bet on urself or take that leap overseas

[@TL2354]

Rly?

[@BootyWarrior555]

@@TL2354really*

[@user-en5ht3yr5z]

Bring in David Robinson and HAkeem. I’d love to hear their stories about those iconic 90s battles between them, and their respective teams.

[@geegee8234]

This is a GREAT IDEA!

[@MikeJones-rk1un]

Brian suffered terrible family tragedy after leaving the Celtic. Peace to him.

[@The_Rain_Maker]

Because they were responsible for the tragedy.

[@wiezewee]

Brian Shaw was Gold on This entire episode

[@tommikdrum]

I am 44 yo now grew up in Boston, I may have been on to boo. I was a ignorant punk kid, apologies to this man Brian Shaw. He did right by himself and his family and I am glad players have more power and control today in part because of him. I hope you can walk back into Boston and the garden any time and get the cheers you deserve. 💯

[@exclamationpointman3852]

Respect. Everybody get second chances

[@MmGocrazy-rs1cc]

Respect

[@AboriginalIndengenous]

Great comment!!! Salute 2 u brother!!!

[@sugarz005]

Nah, he earned that boo and should wear it with a badge of honour

[@kingbryant1292]

Respect brother

[@sebeku2]

I love this podcast with Brian Shaw! Podcasts should have OGs like him on the regular to give sage advice and opinions

[@youngobes]

Don't sign anything without legal representation!!!

[@keishaphillips3659]

Brian Shaw👏👏👏 respect for standing up for yourself

[@streetcamguy]

Great to finally know what happened with B Shaw back in the 90s. #20 was my guy!

[@user-qu4vs1em5m]

I just stumbled upon this podcast. SOLID GOLD! Love it.

[@vulgartech9192]

They gave Danny Ferry a paid for pad with live in maid and driver. Also the seasons for the Italy league back then were 10 months and you only played one game a week.

[@tobyncummins]

Podcast P is a certified success, if it hasn’t already I think we can say that now.

[@shannongreer3022]

I remember this happening. But the behind the scenes stuff is interesting. B Shaw you did the right thing 🏀💪🏾✊🏾✌🏾

[@EuroGuy85]

if you take anything from this it's read the paper and understand it.

[@depannist]

Get a lawyer

[@solidbasellc]

B Shaw is a solid dude in real life💯

[@MmGocrazy-rs1cc]

Brian Shaw a beast

[@coachhbosoccer]

Listened to this on the podcast. Good episode I only ever saw B Shaw with Orlando onwards, not check he had played in Boston. What a career though. And great foresight to make a decision like that.

[@faithfmrunning-ts3lq]

Paul George makes in two games what Danny Manning made for an entire season 🤣🤣🤣

[@Atlas365247]

Including inflation?

[@Primenumber19]

Danny Manning was a bust

[@roymartin3002]

@@Primenumber19 I wouldn't say he was a bust the multiple knee injuries cut short what he could have been, and couple that with playing for the lowly at the time San Diego Clippers that's a heavy burden to bear.🤣🤣

[@Primenumber19]

@@roymartin3002 ok, that’s fair, I disagree, but context matters.

[@big_steve_o5129]

He played for the L.A. Clippers, they had long left SD. He was also an all-star there 2x, and led them​ to their first 2 playoff appearances. @@roymartin3002

[@vision176]

B Shaw been on some legendary teams

[@zshark365]

Nice NBA history lesson right here, thanks.

[@grege54]

Always Get Your Money!!

[@Palayon]

One of my favorite players! He always made plays that mattered

[@stampscapes]

Shaw was such a good player in college. His UCSB team came into Long Beach (State) and beat my team. That's back when the that league (PCAA at the time which became the Big West) would put a few players in the NBA with Shaw being one of them. Long Beach had this guy, Morlon Wiley, that got drafted by Dallas. I was hoping the Lakers would draft him as Jerry West was there scouting the game. Lakers got him eventually and I've often thought he saved those Shaq/Kobe years by bringing them back against the Blazers. You always see that Kobe to Shaq lob highlight but it was Shaw that made that comeback possible. Portland never seemed to recover after that series but that team used to give the Lakers fits.

[@allclassallthetime4739]

Even before adding Pip, 'Sheed and Rider stood out as the players us Laker fans came to hate with a passion but they also backed it up with very good play, looking clear alpha over Campbell and Eddie Jones who to me looked scared of one on one guarding Rider. Getting Smitty made it better not to hate them as much. But those Blazers were ridiculously evenly matched too, even against that stacked '98 squad. Sabonis was a legit long range threat at the 5, still a very new concept in that NBA era and it was always painful to watch him killing us that way. Brian Grant was very effective guarding Shaq and getting Shawn Kemp in return ended up a bonehead trade but I presume he wanted out to get his payday. But on B Shaw, I always wonder if meeting Kobe as a youngster while in Italy was destiny as B Shaw became a very key piece to that first dynasty and who knows who'd he'd have played for if that never happened.

[@stampscapes]

@@allclassallthetime4739 Yeah, Rider was a nightmare matchup for Eddie for some reason. Big Blazers team back then. I remember Shrempf coming over from Indiana and really finding his groove/role with that team. Sabonis really seemed to be the glue with that team picking everyone apart with his vision/passing. I always remember him standing at the top of the 3pt line. Yeah, Grant was a monster. Played great for the Kings right out of college. That one year when the Lakers signed Rodman, I remember when they played the Blazers and got spanked, Rodman said something like "I just couldn't bang with all those big guys tonight".

[@samswoosh1363]

Really smart business move out of B-Shaw

[@scimbrelo]

I’m a Celtics fan 100% but they did BShaw dirty and so did the fans. Sht like this makes me less of an nba fan ngl.

[@zakeaton5632]

Damn what will the league do without a dumb fan like you

[@RobberStormfire]

I never knew the details of the contract. I was in junior high back then but I really don't remember people booing him on TV when he touched the ball but it was ages ago. Like it's rare for that to happen, I think today the only player that gets that treatment there is Kyrie. I remember really liking him and I was disappointed when he got traded away

[@goodymob9638]

It was business bruh, I don't know why you're taking it personal and I'm a Life Long Celtic. He signed a legal contract, it was his fault for firing his agent.

[@goodymob9638]

​@@RobberStormfireKyrie deserved the booing he got, he lied about wanting to be a long time Celtic. We gave up 3 players and a 1st round pick to get him, then he pulled that BS.

[@scimbrelo]

@@goodymob9638 I'm not taking it personal. I made a judgement of their actions. Businesses aren't immune from being judged as scummy. Kind of like if I owned a plantation (a business) and kept slaves. It being a business doesn't make it immune from criticism nor from negative sentiment Funny AF to watch people simp for billionaires tho

[@superSIZEmee]

I was just a lil kid when when Boston lost Brian Shaw to the Lakers. I finally know why now…! I really liked Shaw’s game too.

[@Skibbitypappappa]

What are you talking about 😂 he played for 5 different NBA teams after Boston before he was a Laker like 8 years later

[@superSIZEmee]

@@Skibbitypappappa That’s all possible. I was a kid back then Bird was my favorite player. I only just got familiar with Shaw his rookie season. When he left I just noticed his absence and wondered where he went & what happened to him. The next time I remembered seeing him he was playing with the Lakers…! My teams rival so that’s what was significant for me as a kid…! Sorry if that wasn’t clear enough, yet I don’t understand why it would annoy you as if he never played for those teams. If I didn’t know any better I would think that I had made you mad about something else and you saught out my comment to quarrel. I don’t know that to be true but I suspect that it must be….! 🤷‍♂️😂

[@Skibbitypappappa]

@@superSIZEmee Not sure what part of my comment looks like I'm "mad" ..your comment didn't make sense so I commented, simple. Enjoy your weekend

[@superSIZEmee]

@@Skibbitypappappa It makes plenty of sense if you understood that I was pulling from my childhood memories… #Idiot 😂🤷‍♂️✌️

[@Cayetano-gw3pt]

Brian Shaw was a class act as a player. Thank you Shaw for what did as a Laker.

[@buzzerbeater3350]

6:45 "The math ain't mathin'." HAHAHA!!!😂HAHAHA!!!

[@mrdavidashley6892]

Amazing story. Never knew this.

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[@gabrielalele8603]

BShaw..UC-SANTA BARBARA legend..Oakland's Finest..NBA Champion 🏆 and Solid Coach. #Legendary

[@lawrencenelson5719]

He grew up in hilltop on Barkley st… Oakland???

[@king_invictus1289]

He was smart to look out for him.

[@PowerGearPerformance]

Brian Shaw!!❤😝

[@carlosjr8642]

He's dropping dimes in this interview. Why has no one ever interviewed him before? Also, I'm assuming his time playing in italy is when he played with Kobe's dad.

[@paulgayle3582]

I just started watching 🏀 when he came back, loved all those dudes! EVEN JOE KLEINE! Too young to know about the contract.. then i think they traded him for Sherm Douglas...THE GENERAL!!

[@jdzspace33]

I remember Shaw in Boston. I'm a die hard fan of the Celtics, but I'm not even a little mad at what he did. If they aren't going to look out for you, you have to look out for yourself

[@Ricky-sb7bf]

Looking back, that's why they fell in the 90's. They had Shaw, Reggie, and just drafted Dee brown who won the dunk contest. Those 3 had chemistry and good D, but Brown blew out his knee his second year, they lost Shaw and then Reggie died.

[@Tb-tl4ni]

Shout out to B. Shaw.You are awesome. But no disrespect, Paul George need to be at the gym getting ready for tonights game. He played like trash last night.😂

[@mynameisdub6232]

I been waiting to actually hear him tell this story himself.

[@trayvonwilliams1878]

That's crazy

[@PharaohLawLess1]

That would never fly bcuz now players are leaving teams like nothing and you can’t force them to stay

[@joseyeastwood]

You know Red put that clause in there then had Volk or whatever his name was go to Italy in have him sign the contract but he definitely should have had legal representation but he figured he could keep that money he would have had to pay a lawyer in his pocket but he definitely lost way more by not having one.

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

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[@henrykadisha6172]

Brain Shaw smart man

[@GoodFellah_22]

Taraji P. should "Trademark" her slang because it's trending!

[@tonytom5242]

Brian Shaw is one of my favorite Laker all time...

[@Monsterr713]

Bruh we dont care about prize picks

[@thescatman5029]

1) How is the Commonwealth of Massachusetts a plaintiff in this? 2) He got off good if "Benedict Arnold" is the only name he got called in Boston!

[@jonmccormick8683]

Take the Money -it is a business.

[@davidchandler6885]

shaw could of bought out his contract with celtics, which has been done many times by the nba so he would be playing for 2m a yr in italy(1 m would gone the celtics of 3m). it's quite common. I am sure he didnt want to play for them after their unethical games, but he prob wanted to be back in the usa as a young man

[@IndyQM]

💯

[@zeke3388]

Nasty work by Boston

[@gabrielstorm3536]

They have a history of it - look what they did to IT4

[@mione134]

​@@gabrielstorm3536let it go. IT is over it. Shit happens. It's business

[@juanfranciscosantana4793]

At the end business are business 💰💰💵💵

[@briankaren604]

He was an adult and choose to sign without consulting with a lawyer or agent. Not sure why he thought he would have a leg to stand on if he disputed the contract.

[@jamesmprogers]

He was a kid.

[@moreycleveland2472]

B SHAW YOU ARE MUCH SMARTER THEN SABIAN TELLFAIR NO NO CAPPING

[@moreycleveland2472]

B SHAW ONE THING YOU WOULD DO ALL OVER AGAIN YOU WOULD READ THAT CONTRACT MORE CAREFULLY OR HAVE SOMEBODY THAT YOU CAN TRUST & GIVE YOU THE TRUTH SHOULD YOU SIGN THAT BOSTON CELTIC CONTRACT OR NOT

[@travishancock2302]

That’s some bullshit that Boston treated you like that

[@mrc302]

Lakers wanted to draft him but Celtics had pick before them.

[@toxinqwerty]

3:32 the fuck was that?

[@exclamationpointman3852]

...AM I WRONG OR DOES HE NEED TO BE HYPER EXTENDING HIS KNEES LIKE THAT?!

[@faithfmrunning-ts3lq]

Trust me, that is the most comfortable way to sit for some body types

[@exclamationpointman3852]

@@faithfmrunning-ts3lq I'm nowhere near his height, but for a guy who helped coin the term "load management" I want him at least risk as possible, and when I extend my knees like that, over a period of time, I can feel that good, especially if I went to sleep like that. No hate when I say that at all.

[@easeman8732]

"How could you do that to the Celtics?!" Maaaaan, FUCK the Celtics lol

[@exclamationpointman3852]

Wow. Boston STILL got that rep??

[@carlosdelatorre9987]

Nba blocked his story from coming out

[@moreycleveland2472]

WHATS UP B SHAW HOW COME YOU ARE NOT COCACHING IN THE NBA LAKERS NEEDS TO HOOK YOU UP W/ SOME KIND OF JOB IN THE LAKER ORGANIZATION NO CAPPING

[@moreycleveland2472]

PRO NBA PLAYERS PLAYING OVERSEAS THE MONEY IS TAX FREE

[@nattydreadlocks1973]

I guess he didn't take any contract law classes in college.😂😂😂

[@coreysmorgan8488]

I would have stayed in Europ3 if i was him

[@rumrswright6674]

Boy the media sure can spin a story cant they? They shouldve been really embarrased but somehow got him booed. And then obviously didnt correct the error and get the fans off the mans back. Its a cold cold wicked nba media world. Im glad I didnt make it that far.......Sike!

[@tommyfu9271]

the media always turns the fans against the players and somehow has them on the side of the owners. same owners who screw the taxpayers for stadiums, charge high prices for tickets and concessions etc. amazing how many fans fall for it.

[@l.yannickd.1035]

These are gema that he is dropping. Create your own path & revise all contracts among the many lessons.

[@MrJacksonentzulo]

Didn't know this story as a lifelong Lakers fan he one day appeared--and we put up five more banners. Len Bias RIP changed tranjectory of Celts for a *minute...but that's what they get for messing with East Bay OAKLAND B-Shaw

[@mione134]

Ain't nobody mess with Shaw. You saying "that's what they get". So Len passing away was what? Retribution? That's foul. Shaw got booed for 1 month. Big deal.

[@MrRufusRToyota]

Red watching those pennies.

[@jman1562001]

Brian shaw got that kyrie treatment 👀 ......Celtics nation don't forget nothing lol 😆. You win you beloved like no other, if you ain't do well, I suggest you not come back around town, shit can get disrespectful.

[@Izzymeyokee1]

Get rid of the bull in the glasses. He's just sitting there

[@CachuchasOSFNYCHHSK]

"F--k the Celtics." - Brian Shaw

[@phenomenalelitebasketball2124]

So moral of the story is unless you’re Jayson Tatum Boston won’t pay their players the way they should be paid

[@rolandwashington1100]

They paid Brown

[@RobberStormfire]

They always pay. It wasn't because they didn't want to pay, it's that they had no money to pay because they were paying everyone else

[@protejes1]

The craziest part of this story is Paul George is wearing a Paul George shirt. Man gtfoh lol

[@dpruitt1458]

Who sounding like a little girl 3:30

[@albertdaley9093]

Nba wanna play games and not send the money he went to overseas

[@ChamelioSalamander84]

Why does everyone say Boston is DIFFERENT?

[@kellykell8439]

So basically, The Boston Celtics always have been a shitty NBA organization. At first, I thought they started doing shady things with former NBA player Isaiah Thomas, but I see that organization has a history of bad deals. I see why NBA players don't like playing for certain teams.

[@pupunoob]

Boston fans being shitty? Say it isn't so.

[@user-jj4dz6tr1t]

I get Brian Shaw had to look out for his best interest. He wanted to make money, cool. I am a Celtics fan and leaving Boston to play for the Lakers? No, you and Rick Fox are turncoats! Brian, if you hated the Celtics so much why did you accept their drafting of you? Try to walk on with the Lakers. Maybe it would have been harder, but you obviously didn’t like or want to play for Boston. Why waste your time and theirs’ by accepting your draft situation?

[@TravoneLogan]

Boston shady af never changed

[@codyallen9486]

The more he talks the more I don't like him. He signed a contract and played his team and calls Boston racist because they boo him.

[@MrBmick79]

boston ain't racist???

[@codyallen9486]

@@MrBmick79 it is. The Asian mayor elected by racists? has people of color /Non white parties.

[@codyallen9486]

@@MrBmick79 my comment got deleted. But they elected an Asian mayor. Now she is using her power to have a segregated party.

[@Ricky-sb7bf]

@@codyallen9486White people were banned cause nobody wanted their potato salad with raisins

[@mikebreezy0587]

Typical Mayo Boston fans.

[@timmytv7554]

Rats a reary racist romment rom roo

[@derrickmcelroy8320]

I heard he got traded because in practice he was sticking bird in practice made mistake pushed bird hurt his back the rest is history he got traded

[@GoodFellah_22]

Taraji P. should "Trademark" her slang because it's trending!

[@jbizz80]

What slang is that?

[@GoodFellah_22]

@@jbizz80 "Math ain't Math'N"

[@jbizz80]

@@GoodFellah_22 Thanks. I didn't know it came from her.