Late to the party here, but thanks to you, I cracked the hour today (59:10) with the Trek Emonda and Lightweight wheels. Thanks for the intel!
@chrisblanchard49384 жыл бұрын
What about the Cannondale Evo.? 4 Stars weight 2 stars aero cheap plus you can unlock it early on.
@chrisroe66034 жыл бұрын
You earn the Trek Emonda by completing the Everest Challenge. The Tron bike comes from doing 50000 meters of climbing
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Chris! Been a while since unlocking them!
@AKH31564 жыл бұрын
And tarmac comes after California
@robertfhortune4 жыл бұрын
Hi ! Am have 55.000 and dont have the tron bike , what im doing wrong? Tks
@chrisroe66034 жыл бұрын
@@robertfhortune You have to have the Everest Challenge selected. The elevation only counts if you have it chosen as your challenge
@robertfhortune4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisroe6603 tomorrow I'm go in search this option tks
@briandoingthings39324 жыл бұрын
Good video. The two bikes mentioned as not in the drop shop are rewards for completing challenges. You get the Tarmac after completing California, and the Emonda on the first stage of the Everest challenge.
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Ye my bad... Totally forgot, kinda unlocked them a loooooooooooooooong time ago!!
@tomsolovic22534 жыл бұрын
You can unlock specialized tarmac by completing the ride California challenge, maybe that’s why it is not available in the drop shop now
@HenryAshman4 жыл бұрын
So I went for the Canyon Ultimate as my climbing bike, mostly because I have a Canyon Endurace IRL and they sort of look similar at a glance. That's also why my go-to aero bike is the Aeroad 😂
@bantcliff4 жыл бұрын
Used my Trek Emondo and Zipp 202 for the Haute route, the only thing that would make me quicker would be some decent lungs and Legs, :)
@gradyferguson77924 жыл бұрын
I always fall back to the Tron for hard rides or races. I was always told that if your not any good at least look good doing it.
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂 Hell yes!!
@floydie92554 жыл бұрын
I've been using the Tarmac Pro/enve wheel combo for climbing for a while now. Didn't know the Tron bike was now so slow.
@LarsRR4 жыл бұрын
Floydie it was never fast up hills. It is still the fastest bike for flat courses, if you don’t have the 808/858/ Super9 wheels.
@MarioXcore14 жыл бұрын
Chris has no problem switching bikes out cuz he can't help but look super good always
@lokkagutt4 жыл бұрын
Tron bike all the way. After spending so much time getting it, im gonna use it;)
@brianrhoden4304 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. For me the Fastest Bike up the Alpe is still the Tron, I bought the Zwift Safety Bike when it was the fastest but I still had a better time with the Tron. The Tarmac Pro with the Lightweight Wheels has come a close second to the Tron, having completed 266 Alpe Climbs I will keep trying most of these newer bikes/wheels set ups . With all those 16+ Million Drops I've earned I want the best ! Keep posting the videos Chris really enjoy.
@scottbakernc4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing these tests. I'd like to see one for the best frameset/wheel combo for flat/hilly rides and if they help in the pack. I just use the Specialized Tarmac Pro and ENVE 3.4 lightest climbing bike for everything, but I'd like recommendations for the flatter roads and group. Not a TT bike and maybe level 20-ish or less attainable stuff with enough drops? Thanks Chris! Also congrats on winning Paris-Roubaix! Still wanted the cocoa smudged face for the look!! Cheers!
@esabaliauskas4 жыл бұрын
Hey Pritch, very good job on presentation and research. I started Zwifting recently and this information is very useful! Looking forward for my first lightweight Zwift bike and pair of wheels :)
@SILVERSNOWMAN724 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris, very informative.......interesting stuff cheers!!
@leonoregan42094 жыл бұрын
Can you test the Ridley helium as well to add in the comparison
@engrmariano4 жыл бұрын
how do you do constant 360w?
@peteandjune4 жыл бұрын
G’Day, yeah all I ride is the tarmac pro with the 3.4’s. I only weigh 68 kgs and makes climbing easier.
@chrisl.61584 жыл бұрын
I got the Tarmac Pro and Meilenstein wheels. Using this combo for every uphill race (like the Haute Route events). Also I'm a proud virtual owner of the Emonda. For flat tracks and everything in between I have the concept bike. Oh and you should mention: When you're going for the concept bike don't forget to log your elevation gain for the everest challenge!!! I did my first 12000m elevation gain on Zwift with the California challenge selected.
@RobFinch19714 жыл бұрын
Thanks, useful info. Please could you do the same test for TT bikes and aero wheels available at say level 10+?
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@danieldeininger29114 жыл бұрын
Within 30 seconds he had two digs at Cam. The love is not dead 🤣🤣
@rein25234 жыл бұрын
Should compare the tarmac pro vs Tron bike on “flatter” Watopia route. Wonder how much slower it is
@thedecliningcyclist33214 жыл бұрын
After taking over an hour and a half to grind to the top today, I suspect giving up beer and bacon sarnies might help more than a new bike ...........
@leejefferson70114 жыл бұрын
Did you test the tarmac pro against the tarmac?
@jslute2 жыл бұрын
I like the steel look.
@D.J.Hunter4 жыл бұрын
These videos are how I discovered your channel 7 or so months ago.
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Well let's hope another dj has just come across my vids!!!
@linconrodrigues48284 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris, great info there on the Zwift videos, you re killing it, please, keep them coming!!!! :-) I got a bit confused, the Cannondale Evo did not got better results on previous tests? and one more question: is the Zipp 202 the best option for climbing the Alpe du Zwift? (before you get lucky on the Lightweight wheels on top of the Alpe), (so much info to me to cope with, lol!!! thank you in forehand... you deserve 10X of subscribers, always great contend!!!
@sawomirpuko21424 жыл бұрын
I've used Tarmac Pro + Enve 3.4 wheels for Haute Route and it is my combo for hilly rides (until I unlock those Lightweight Meilenstein wheels :-)). But for looking good on Zwift, I go for Trek Madone and Zipp 808s. Oh yeah!
@movalles284 жыл бұрын
I’d like to ride the two bikes I own in real life, the specialized tarmac and the Cervelo S5. I had them since before I joined zwift without knowing they are two of the fastest bikes on their categories. Now I can’t wait to own them on Zwift too!!
@dkw4par4 жыл бұрын
Which of these top climbing bikes are the Fastest on flat thou? Also is it worth to get the Allez Sprint Aero or go with the Evo6 as you’ve suggested?
@vincentbonninga73514 жыл бұрын
Could it be that the Zwift algorithm is designed to have (slightly) different outcomes of racing/climbing each time you ride. Perhaps to prevent people only choosing the quickest setup. Did you ever did dayly/weekly tests with the same setup on the same course with equal power output? Just wondering :-)
@AndrewMooreAUS4 жыл бұрын
What about the new Parlee and Pinarello?
@TIstompsUout4 жыл бұрын
I know some people are training at home, but the weather where I live is finally getting nicer so my training has headed outdoors. The best part is, there's less cars on the road so it feels safer out there. I ride alone so I'm social distancing.
@antoinerouyer-brown71804 жыл бұрын
What about he cannondale evo?
@Evaso_CC4 жыл бұрын
Just when I needed my daily Pritch hit 😍💪🏻💪🏻
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
😉
@holinografias4 жыл бұрын
I have recently (like 3 days ago) won the Trek Emonda, but i can't remenber what I was doing, maybe during one of the Haute Route stages.
@SprintTri584 жыл бұрын
What power difference is there between elevating your front wheel 8% versus leaving your bike on the flat? That would be an interesting test since climbing involves climbing muscles.
@jonmeals4 жыл бұрын
That intro was brutal 😆
@woodythemuss4 жыл бұрын
Wait...I have the Tarmac Pro, with Enve 3.4s. Why aren't I fast!!! 😭😂😂
@josephgyde2794 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of why the speeds in zwift are so high?
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
I'm not that intelligent enough to answer that... 😂
@victorlwd4 жыл бұрын
im not sure if any1 mentioned it already but you can unlock the trek emonda by feeding penutbutter honey sandwiches to the jarvis bear in game
@terrytheas3 жыл бұрын
Which wheels help with the bike... i am level 7 and saving de dropps for level 10/11 for the climming bike specially for alpe du Zwift
@peloz80654 жыл бұрын
For the Crit City Race, Wich the best combo ?
@darrenvandit Жыл бұрын
La Reine: Hold my Beerrrrrrrrrr :))))
@damienrstpierre4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, great video as always. Just a heads up for the bike testing on the flat, Wheels have a much greater impact on the flat than the frames do. Using Zwift insiders data (while old his climbing order matches yours apart from the update to the safety bike) on his flat test my analysis showed the best frame (non-tron) only got a 0.54% improvement vs the Zwift Carbon bike while the best wheel set got a gain of 1.71% (Zipp 858/Super 9 vs the zwift 32mm carbon). Even more interesting, just using the Enve 3.4's still got a better relative improvement than the best flat bike frame (non-tron). Again though, this is using the older data so things might have changed now? Cant wait to see your test results. Also, if you want some fancy charts made up that you can stick in the video hit me up :)
@Papa-Bogey4 жыл бұрын
Wait! I did Alpe du Zwift two nights ago for the first time (137:36.53). And the Edmonda unlocked! I’m level 17. I was just happy to have finally done the climb, and I grabbed the Trek as soon as I finished. So, somehow, someway, the Emonda is still available.
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Yes! My bad it is available via the zwift challenges!!!
@Papa-Bogey4 жыл бұрын
No worries. Thanks for the great channel. My triathlon club is using your top 10 climbs list as a basis for our weekly Zwift Tuesday night meetup to pass the time away while quarantining here in the States. The Alpe du Zwift was our first. Best regards. Stay well
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
@@Papa-Bogey that's amazing!!! Thanks man and enjoy those climbs!!!
@JakobThusgaard4 жыл бұрын
I'll pick my Trek Emonda for the Alpe...
@lorddilego68054 жыл бұрын
Ta-Da?! Who are you and what did you do to Chris?! Ooosh! Also, the new CH-shirt seems to be purposefully designed to show off your guns. Just noticed. ;D
@jsclimber914 жыл бұрын
how do you simulate 360W at 90rpm? side program?
@SimonGergolet4 жыл бұрын
really curious to know...
@danielsaba6454 жыл бұрын
Ant plus simulator
@solefreak23 жыл бұрын
How on earth do you average those sort of watts up such a long climb???
@jamesdean46434 жыл бұрын
How do you make your avatar climbing Ale du Zwift without pedaling yourself ?
@chrisblanchard49384 жыл бұрын
I unlocked the Trek Emonda Monday during my ride up Alp de Zwift. Not sure how or why though.
@chrisblanchard49384 жыл бұрын
I should off read down the comments. Chris Roe answered my question.
@dazza73674 жыл бұрын
On the spinning wheel at the top got the lightweight wheels on a spin 😊
@chrisblanchard49384 жыл бұрын
Dazza I got the gloves. Hopefully I will get the wheels next time.
@esabaliauskas4 жыл бұрын
Just did 'Alpe du Zwift' for the first time, got the gloves... Better luck next time 😅👍
@thanh-dungnguyen80784 жыл бұрын
What about Zwift resistance. It should be set to max to reproduce real climbing with small gears and not only power outage with big gears ....
@gregmoxham21204 жыл бұрын
So how do you do the testing at a consistent power and cadence with no fluctuations...?
@damienrstpierre4 жыл бұрын
He is using and Ant+ simulator so it just thinks a power meter is connected.
@deanpeddle904 жыл бұрын
What about that Dogma you just purchased ?
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Meh! Wasn't really worth testing amongst a bunch of climbing bikes!!
@latsots4 жыл бұрын
hi i unlocked tarmac pro when i was lev 11...then few weeks back...i dont know what happen suddenly out of nowhere that old tarmac sort of poped in in my collection never bought it suddenly was there dont know what happened...but i dont mind in the end :)
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
I think it must have been there after you completed one of the challenges!!?
@yotamt4 жыл бұрын
At +5w/kg for 40 minutes, I'd settle for a TT rig, tied to a bull running the other way.
@philipchurchill13284 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. Hope you and family are well. Ordered some wahoo stuff via your link . Stay safe.
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
😘
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
You bloody legend
@joanetmontserrat7024 жыл бұрын
What about the tarmac S-Works??
@WRXJIM4 жыл бұрын
Where do you see that? Can only see the Venge $-Works?
@joanetmontserrat7024 жыл бұрын
WRXJIM You don’t buy it, you unlock it by completing the tour of california challenge
@WRXJIM4 жыл бұрын
@@joanetmontserrat702 I didnt realise it was an S-Works. I have it already just noticed it says S-Works on it. ha ha. Its the older Tarmac though. the new Specialized Tarmac Pro should be faster. ? Hmm, C'Mon Pritch. Lets see a test aye :)
@tomchristian17104 жыл бұрын
Is the safety bike with the safety wheels still as fast as they used to be
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Nope!
@JakeKaminskisRacing4 жыл бұрын
@@chrispritch Maybe they've calculated the Safety Bike's weight and it drops down the Alpe du Zwift faster than faster than one of Niel's Tinder Dates drops to her knees! HAHA
@TheMerckxProject4 жыл бұрын
I think BC and Zwift could've avoided the proverbial stepping on the garden rake/Cam situation if they'd have just locked everyone in the competition into the same Safety-bike, tbh. Even when it was better rated.
@yogatriathlete4 жыл бұрын
Did you say Cervelo P5? I think you meant to say Cervelo R5 since the P5 is a time trial bike
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck a duck... Ye R5.. I'm sorry!! God I'm bloody useless!!! 😂
@TheTibikart4 жыл бұрын
do the fastest on the flats and time trial bike again please
@SimonCash2 жыл бұрын
This is a good video because it has demonstrated to me that there really is no difference between these bikes. Clearly the 1st bike, an outlier, has been discontinued probably because the new algo has significantly affected its performance. As for the others, apart from one, they are identical (within a sec) and that is ignoring margin for error. Honestly people are nuts if they take this seriously. Saying that, what would of been more useful would be to see if there is a significant difference between the stock frame/wheels and any of the bikes tested in this video. You need to have a baseline. The Zwift programmers must be pissing themselves laughing thinking that people take this seriously. I am going to keep my hard earned virtual currency and wait for Zwift to issue an NFT or some other worthless digital asset and buy that instead. Rant over!
@chrispritch2 жыл бұрын
i agree
@SergioCristancho4 жыл бұрын
looks over stats? .... Looks! is everything! is the only thing! where else your drops your real sweat drops make you earn a very very cool looking Bike! (zwift of course) currently on level 17 and my savings are on a 1.200.000 drops but my cool looking bike still not avaliable on my level yet!
@veloriderkm4 жыл бұрын
How is your haircut so fresh?!!
@nicksidell47974 жыл бұрын
I just ride the bike I’d like to own for real and that is a Trek modon Chris and if that makes me have to work harder so be it.
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Bloody good job nick!
@TheDomLouis4 жыл бұрын
I used the Specialized Tarmac Pro a couple of weeks ago and did AdZ in 62:xx. Shit bike.......... I jest 😜. I need to average .1w/kg more up that damn climb to get the sub 60 achievement. Nearly there!
@Goose_84 жыл бұрын
Mans got Jokes!!
@chrisoliver66904 жыл бұрын
Ribble?
@JohnKleman14 жыл бұрын
Emonda comes from first stage of the Everest challenge, and the original tarmac comes from the California challenge
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
I never bloody knew that.... Cheers John... Been a while since I did those events!!!
@gromitj4 жыл бұрын
Love the little dig at Cameron, "You might be trying to unlock the concept bike... Legitimately..."
@leogrubl68153 жыл бұрын
The Max Gradient isnt 12 but 14%
@ayo20364 жыл бұрын
Did anyone actually prove cameron jeffers got any benefit ingame from the tron bike? Surely they can't be going by this as definitive evidence.
@elijahkwon4224 жыл бұрын
Ayo It was shown he would’ve still won on a slower bike.
@ZnakeTech4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter, the whole thing was a joke - they should just have unlocked every bike for everybody in the competition, the difference maker shouldn't be if you have unlocked some special bike in game. That he got a ban for it just shows British Cycling and whoever else organised it has no clue how to do "eSports" yet, or at least they didn't at the time.
@eugenesteyn64544 жыл бұрын
I have the tarmac pro and trek edmonda.... it makes no difference, im just slow ....period lol
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 You and me both!!!
@vvandu4 жыл бұрын
You get the Specialized Tarmac for completing the California challenge. You have to BUY the Specialized Tarmac PRO
@ajjerseyqueen64594 жыл бұрын
Chris I have almost 10 million drops, I’m a zwiftllionare , hook me up with some nice rims and I ll pay you under the table 😂😂😂😂 I have so many frames and wheels I barely know what to do with them, I usually use Tron, long rime algo you could pair Tron with the Millstein wheels, now that shat was fast 😄😄😄😄😬😬😬🤩🤩
@sergiosousa4414 жыл бұрын
Isn't the ENVE 2.2 a faster climbing wheel than the 3.4??
@drew68064 жыл бұрын
The regular Cannondale evo that is available at level 8 is a faster climber than the supersix. Give it a test. Agree with you though that if the race or route you are doing is more that just a trip up the mountain, the fastest climber not always the best choice. Safety bike only suitable for the richest man in Watopia.
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Naaaaaah way!!! It's only a 3* weight!! Imma test this shit...
@drew68064 жыл бұрын
@@chrispritch May have changed, but used to be like #3 best climber
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
Shit man maybe I took the wrong bike up the hill!!! 😂
@danlancaster22394 жыл бұрын
Good video Chris. I get a kick out of your control numbers; 170 cm tall? Does that seem short? At least use average height of 176.5. That might make a difference? Average European weight is 156kg. Ok, I'm being a jerk, good job again Chris.
@chrispritch4 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂 I just use round numbers so I don't forget!!
@ivancajka7324 жыл бұрын
Regarding the safety bike. I think that people at Zwift are poking fun at those people who buy overpriced boat anchors of steel made in the Netherlands. The boutique unracer brand bikes and hipsters buying them by making it the most expensive and the most inept bike in the drop shop.
@cyclenutter27154 жыл бұрын
first bois
@MilanSmore4 жыл бұрын
7th time up the Alpe STILL NO WHEELS
@randylongo68874 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is the lucky number for everybody but I got the wheels on my 12th time up Alpe du Zwift.
@kyungi14 жыл бұрын
WTF if this were based on real world bike ratings the 2014/2016 Cannondale supersix evo HM would have to be number 1 or in top 3. Specialized tarmac pro is nice but its heavy as hell stock. I have a 2015 supersix evo hm 58cm with ksyrium slr's Exalith aluminum and 28mm tires and the bike is 14lbs.. 13.5 with 23mm tires. Its a climbing beast specialized has no equal to old Evo's HM without spending 19K to make it light smh...
@malachicashmore4 жыл бұрын
Cannondale evo is meant to be fast isn’t it???????
@joejoe89484 жыл бұрын
I'll take my TCR SL with Enve 3.4's over any Tarmac or Emonda any day of the week.
@BenBrawn4 жыл бұрын
70 kg?! Should put your weight in chris, your weight is probably closer to your average viewer’s. ... So what’s that like 72?