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Kevin Ross

Kevin Ross

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@markforrest881
@markforrest881 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I consider a professional review. Giving the viewer enough solid information so that they can make a purchase that best suits their workflow. Thank you, for the significant amount of time you spent on preparing/editing this video to provide quality content. BTW...audio is on point! Subbed!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Well I appreciate that. These videos do typically take quite a bit of research, filming and editing, but happy to make them as I know they often answer those buying questions. Glad to have you around here.🤙
@ifishares
@ifishares 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought I was watching a million subscribers channel. You deserve not 1 but 2 million subscribers.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
I treat it like a million sub channel. Just putting in the work my friend. Appreciate you hanging out. Happy to help.
@glucciola
@glucciola 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, would've never guessed if it wasn't for your comment. Great quality!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! Hope it helped.
@natetheartist9
@natetheartist9 3 жыл бұрын
You're spot on with your comment! Totally agree.
@TARAJOSU
@TARAJOSU 3 жыл бұрын
He will definitely get there
@MarkWyche
@MarkWyche 3 жыл бұрын
Speechless. High quality video, real talk and honest. I'm a fan.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Really appreciate it, and happy to have you stop by.
@RogerZoul
@RogerZoul 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and going through all that data. It is really hard work. I think you may find that it will be easier to summarize your results if you just use tables to compare like things so that you and your viewers don’t have to remember anything. We don’t really need to see the benchmark tools running (once or twice in a video is fine just to establish what software you are using). This is important stuff to me so I will keep coming back for more. Merry Christmas!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it helped. I was going to put graphs in there, but after a solid two days of working on testing and filming...I admit I was exhausted and just needed to get this posted ASAP because I had so many people reaching out about it on another video I did about SSDs. Anyway, thanks so much for hanging. 👊
@bradstudio
@bradstudio 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Here's a great easy info graphic plugin for FCPX kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYquoKaKgbGEfNU
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I actually have some infographic plugins, and these look great as well. Appreciate you sending them over. I think I just needed to get the info out and really just get these videos posted. It was a grind with all this testing....Before the holidays, and just the other full time gig on top of this one. But I do like to add them in as I know it does help a few folks. 😉 I’ll give this platform a deeper look. 👍
@cazzaparrphysique
@cazzaparrphysique 3 жыл бұрын
Man your audio is BUTTER! Goals
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Appreciate it. Always striving to be better.
@curtisdinman
@curtisdinman 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you actually showed the render R/W values. All the KZbin “experts” always skip over this and only compare benchmarks and large volume x-fer. Yeah its nice when you have 500GB to move that it goes twice as fast. But in practical use in your editing timeline performance and render speeds the drive speed is a negligible difference, and often isnt worth the price tag.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. In this case it’s just a matter of paying extra for that upgradability, but otherwise the performance is pretty much aligned with pre-built solutions. In many use cases that is. Glad it was helpful.
@abirahmed1292
@abirahmed1292 2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN SP P34A60
@smartin684
@smartin684 3 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled upon your channel. Nice information. You have a great voice, and your delivery is so much smother and relaxing than most other KZbinrs. Good stuff. I’m subscribing.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Well I’m glad to have you hanging out here. Also happy to help where I can. Much appreciate the compliment.
@barrybebenek8691
@barrybebenek8691 3 жыл бұрын
Working in the Post business and now with working from home, your channel is rockin’. This topic is exactly what I need right now. So glad I came across it. Subscribed. 🇨🇦👍🏼
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Hey really awesome to have you here and look forward to seeing you around the channel. Thanks Barry!
@PaulKentSkates
@PaulKentSkates 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the 16gb with 1tb, and I'm adding that fledging enclosure with the newest sabrent gen4 ssd's for a working drive and a physical raid for backups and long term/ slow storage some guy posted a fairly comprehensive set of test stats in the review section of the fledging product webpage where he compares variosmus drives and compares the speed to his m1 mac ssd. He claims this setup fully saturates the 20Gb/s T3 write channels. I really appreciate these videos for getting me started on my choice.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats! And I’ll have to check out those tests. Appreciate you letting me know about it. Feel free to hop back over to let us know how it’s all going. 👊👍
@sundersquare
@sundersquare 3 жыл бұрын
this is so great on every level. so much more thorough than other bigger channels, congrats on making a great video :D
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Well I appreciate that. Just trying to do my part. 😉🤙
@yutani2225
@yutani2225 3 жыл бұрын
I use a WD Black P50 SSD on my M1 Air and use it to stream very large East West Composer Cloud orchestra samples into Logic Pro. Very good performance so far. Might be worth a mention as well.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Well I will definitely take a look at that one. Much appreciate the suggestion friend.
@bautistamedia1668
@bautistamedia1668 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy I was literally searching for external ssds on Amazon and this motivation popped up!! Perfect timing
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
I made this one for you 👊 Glad it helped.
@graymatters7584
@graymatters7584 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t think that’s a coincidence, do you?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
It was meant to be😉
@lorensims4846
@lorensims4846 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome information. I've been curious about the benefits of getting an NVMe to set up as an external Thunderbolt drive. You've answered my questions quite thoroughly. Thanks!!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Well alright, I’m definitely happy this helped friend. 👊
@curtisdinman
@curtisdinman 3 жыл бұрын
The Sandisk Extreme Pro (i think the drive he uses in this comparison) is also NVMe, just fyi.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
It is indeed 🤙
@natetheartist9
@natetheartist9 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin... Nate here. Man I can't express how you've addressed my storage decision. You've presented options in multiple areas with real-time workflow and data. I never knew there was such a thing as an enclosure for an ssd... I do like the scan disk option but this dyi for me is major. Appreciate your time, effort, and thought in what you've done in this one. I'm a new subscriber. I'll view your channel to see if you have links to other media outlets.. Continue..
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Well Nate, I appreciate you stopping over. I’m really glad I was able to help. It’s why I create the content, and do all of this testing. So I can help others make that buying decision. Not to mention that I’m curious myself, so I’m learning right there with you. 😉🤙
@RockyColaFizz
@RockyColaFizz 4 жыл бұрын
As usual, a great video. I have heard and personally found that there is no actual need to render prior to export if you can playback the timeline and effects pretty smoothly. If that is happening, when you export without doing a render first, the export time is essentially the same as if you would have rendered already. Give it a try on the M1.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I agree. I wanted to be able to address several workflows as I know everyone has their own process. I’ve worked with background render on and off. It’s a nice feature that can also get annoying if one little change is made and it wants to re-render the timeline 🙄 But yes, I do tend to go back to double check stabilization or any kind of optical flow just to make sure. On the M1, it just makes it so much easier to do these things. I’ve never had a machine this capable and I’ve had some fairly powerful PCs in the day. The future with this architecture (for both PC and Mac) is bright 😎 Appreciate you hanging out friend. Always thankful for the community here 👊
@TALKCalgary
@TALKCalgary 2 жыл бұрын
So refreshing to come access someone who understands the issues being faced by creative professionals in the real world. This channel is truly priceless.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you here and happy to be able to help.
@jmcc7886
@jmcc7886 4 жыл бұрын
Recently found your channel. I love it, informative and reliable advice, thank you from Cardiff, UK
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Well I’m so glad you found me. Happy to be of service where I can. Really appreciate you taking the time to let me know.
@timijosephariyo
@timijosephariyo 2 жыл бұрын
I am not even a techy guy, but this video was so beautifully shot and you speak to clearly (very relaxing voice) i ended up watching to the end and now subscribed! Also the video was on 4k like when i hit like :)
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 2 жыл бұрын
Well I appreciate you taking the time to be here. And of course for the like and sub. I look forward to seeing you around. Happy to help 🤘
@LordZero1
@LordZero1 4 жыл бұрын
I am going to have to do this asap. thank you so much for the Information!!! Much Love brother!!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
I’m thankful for your appreciation brother. 👊
@LordZero1
@LordZero1 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN oh yeah, all the time!!! Merry Christmas!!!!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
And Merry Christmas to you as well.
@tonyscalifornia
@tonyscalifornia 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to let you know that your video is super helpful and knowledgeable. I’m watching it on my tv and gotta grab a remote to navigate to a like button. Really appreciate your video, please keep making it. Stay well, sir.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you friend. Glad this is helpful, and I will continue making similar content. Sending my best.
@temitayoisme
@temitayoisme 4 жыл бұрын
Man, apple better get you on board soon, these tests are just so good
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Well I almost think that this is what Apple intended... for us to test these machines in ways that didn’t exist in a lab. It’s certainly kept me busy while we’re all inside these days. I’ll have to figure out how to film outside when we can get back out again 😁 Appreciate you brother. Still inspired by the mood on that last video of yours 🔥
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 4 жыл бұрын
That Blackmagic speed test doesn't look that fast. When I run the Blackmagic test on my DIY 16TB external SSD, I'm getting 3913 Write and 4369 Read on my Intel Mac Mini. I just ordered the 13" M1 MBP and I'll definitely check it out and see if it's optimized or not. Also, I am using NVMe 3.0 Intel SSDs. Very interesting. I'm glad I stumbled upon your video!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it has been interesting on these M1s as far as this throughput on these TB3 enclosures. The efficiency with many tasks is so good that I don’t really notice the real world performance difference with the read/write, but it will be interesting to see if there is a fix. I need to update to Big Sur 11.2, but I doubt there’s anything there that’ll improve this 🤷‍♂️
@cuuppaajoe
@cuuppaajoe 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Haven’t been to your channel yet. Very well done and informative. 👍👍
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel. Glad you made it. Appreciate you hanging out in the comments.
@ajaynagaraju4623
@ajaynagaraju4623 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Kevin! My M1 Mac Mini finally arrived a couple of days and I just wanted to take a moment and thank you for all of your valuable content! :) Now I am going through these videos to choose the best external SSD within my budget. Cheers!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! Love that you popped over for an update. Enjoy that mini. It’s so much fun. Sending my best.
@ajaynagaraju4623
@ajaynagaraju4623 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Thanks, Kevin!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
You got it 👍
@thehman2007
@thehman2007 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I really appreciate the work you put in and share with community.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Well these do take a lot of time, but I know it’s helpful. Appreciate you as well 👊
@seattlebeard
@seattlebeard 3 жыл бұрын
Your attention to detail and clarity of your communication is impressive. Had to subscribe. :o)
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Great that you’re here.
@shootcutdeliver
@shootcutdeliver 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I came across your channel- very clean points of details
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I’m glad to have you here 👊
@charbax
@charbax 4 жыл бұрын
Are you using the Extreme Pro v1 or v2 in this video? It seems you link to the V1 on Amazon (while you write upgraded model in the text), so I must guess that's the V1 (the one capped at 1050MB/s) that you are using? Too bad that M1 (with supposedly USB4) doesn't have USB 3.2 Gen2x2 support to support the 2000MB/s USB SSD drives out there..
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the G25 version, so 1050MB/s, but there’s also two versions of this and the 2000MB/a version as well, so it’s pretty confusing. And yeah, unfortunate about the throughput on these TB3 controllers.
@MikeInAlaska
@MikeInAlaska 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your hard work. Time Stamps, awesome. Finally, a creator that really thinks about the end user! Awesome job bro!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
You got it. And thank you 🤙👊
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Alright friends...First off, I hope you are doing well. Second, as I said in the video, use the time stamps to get the info you want/need. For those that are/were curious and reached out in the comments on my other videos about this type of setup, well I made this investment to help you get closer to your buying decision. I will continue to test it and continue to provide updates. Anything that you know or find out, especially as it pertains to the M1 and TB3, feel free to leave it here for the community. This wasn’t intended to be an overly technical video, but if you want to nerd out a little here, let it fly. Go do the things.
@mariusmocanrealestatephoto1378
@mariusmocanrealestatephoto1378 4 жыл бұрын
I dunno if I would put thermo tape over the sticker. Probably won’t hurt anything. Great video.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I know it’s a mixed feeling about the tape. I’ve already registered the serial number and have a photo saved. Honestly, with this enclosure it’s likely not a necessary since there’s a fan 🤷‍♂️
@ronsmaron6189
@ronsmaron6189 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve read that some of these stickers are metallic and transfer the heat. Is that true, and if so, which ones?
@Driven.ByVlad
@Driven.ByVlad 4 жыл бұрын
Bro! You audio is so clean!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Gotta keep it clean. It’s a family show 😉😁
@ASiqueira1973
@ASiqueira1973 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for your videos. really helping me here to decide which m1 setup i will get.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet! I love helping where I can.
@jadwehbe_
@jadwehbe_ 3 жыл бұрын
im surprised ur not at a 100k subs already bc ur content is good
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you friend. I'm on my way. 🚀
@jetmartin9501
@jetmartin9501 4 жыл бұрын
Great video...all of your "leg work" on this video...and why I subscribed. Others have also reported this same Thunderbolt performance issue on the M1s. Do you know if Apple has acknowledged the problem and indicated if they are working on a fix?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! As far as Apple acknowledging this, I believe they are aware. They have to be. I just spent a solid two days on just this video alone (and many more before I got this TB3 enclosure). I’m hoping we’ll get one of those Big Sur updates that’ll fix this, but it’ll also probably be buried in the info section as a “TB3 improvement” like it’s magic 😀 But seriously I’m really just hoping this has something to do with how Big Sur has to also function on these intel machines and it’s a kernel issue that can be patched. I’m sure there are a few folks out there testing harder than I am trying to figure this out. There’s definitely an Apple team that goes through these videos, the online forums and support communities looking for common issues. This would definitely be one of them 😉 If I get wind of a fix, I’ll definitely be posting it. Happy to have you around here. 👊
@jetmartin9501
@jetmartin9501 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Thanks...I just hope that the fix is a software fix and doesn't require a HW change. I just bought a new Macbook M1 system and I'm looking to do 4K60 video editing directly from the external drive (SanDisk Extreme 1TB)...From your video it looks like even with the existing performance limitations of M1's TB3 there should be enough throughput to accomplish my objective. Right?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. You’re going to have plenty of bus throughput. Not sure which codec you’re working with, but this A7siii footage and the R5 footage I worked with is tough, and it had no problems. But agree, I hope it’s a software fix.
@SimonShabo
@SimonShabo 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, your channel ROCKS! Your videos are really, really helpful. Since I struggle severely with internal SSD space (and until 2h ago also with my external WD HDD 2TB - your other vid set me back into the safe zone of 200GB free space) and editing on a next-to-full-HDD via a USB 3.0 isn't fun I guess, I would follow your suggestion and get a SSD + shell and change it as soon as it dates out. Guess this is the most sustainable solution (ecologically and economically). Using a screwdriver shouldn't be too hard. Agree?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Maybe I could work up a tutorial on using a screwdriver 😉 And yes, these setups really aren’t that hard to put together and it really does give you more longevity for sure. I’m appreciating this setup more and more for sure. Glad it’s been helpful. Appreciate you dropping over here to hang.
@LamarMK
@LamarMK 4 жыл бұрын
The Tech Doctor! Great video Brother. 👍 Apple needs to fix this external drive speed issue. It seems very sketchy, as if they software limit the speeds so they can get you to upgrade and use their highly priced SSD options.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother. And yes, a very unusual finding indeed. I have yet to see anywhere as to Apple acknowledging this issue, but as I was telling someone else, watch a Big Sur update come along that just mentions something in the details section like, “Thunderbolt 3 speed improvements” or something vague like that. 🤷‍♂️
@LamarMK
@LamarMK 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Ya. They probably won’t even mention it if they fix it.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
You got it 🙄😉
@LamarMK
@LamarMK 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN 😁 Merry Christmas to you and your family man. 🎄
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Right back you brother. Merry Christmas to you and yours 🎄 Sending my best 👊
@LiamLinley
@LiamLinley 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, awesome video and you've really helped me out.I've just restarted my KZbin channel and I'm currently editing on a 13' 2012 MacBook Pro. I've ordered the new 13' M1 which is arriving in 3 weeks (I CAN'T WAIT). I'm researching an external drive to edit from and this video has MASSIVELY helped. I'm going to go for the cheeper USB C SanDisk to cut my initial costs. And correct me if I'm wrong, I believe this will be sufficient to edit my KZbin videos from. Thanks again Kevin :)
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on starting back up! And the M1. Hopefully your shipping date gets bumped up a bit like some others experienced. Yes, the Sandisk is going to be fine. It’s still very capable and affordable 😉
@petrockmedia
@petrockmedia 4 жыл бұрын
Love the content my friend! Thank you for doing this. A DIY project is definitely in my future. I wanted to ask about your DAC on your desk that you have your headphones plugged into. Im looking at adding one to my set up and wanted to know which one you are using and your thoughts, unless that is in an upcoming video :) cheers!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I love the DIY as well, but I guess you know that. And yes, I do have that linked under the “what I use to film/edit” section. It’s a MOTU M2. A very rare find these days. Mine came with fairy dust in the box 😄 But seriously, it’s plug and play and works with the M1. The sound loops and software isn’t updated to M1 yet, but they’ve posted that they’re working on it. But as far as the hardware itself, it works great.
@cocompi
@cocompi 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN I noticed your M2 and got so happy! I bought one as my first interface and I love it’s basically perfect (I’m a composer) also getting a Mac Mini M1 on late January, was really waiting for this video since I want to get into editing too
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I do love the M2. I’ve been eyeing it for awhile and was finally able to pick it up. I’ve been using the Zoom H6 for years for podcasting and my video work, and I was hesitant to pick up an interface, but I do really love having now and sorry I waited so long. I’m also happy that it was fairly easy to setup...well, I actually didn’t have to do anything but plug it in and it was recognized immediately without any drivers. Glad you popped over here to hang out for a bit 😀
@cocompi
@cocompi 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN So relatable! My first “interface” actually was a Zoom H4 which I share with a friend (we split the bill lol), so having a personal dedicated interface now (soon with drivers for M1 and Big Sur) is just great! Now, this video just made me realize I’m still not sure what to buy, I also saw a review of a Sabrent SSD on enclosure, and now this options. Maybe will just have to wait until Apple says something about the performance issues. Well I was going to wait anyway since my order will take time and I’m out of cash for now, so this was just curiosity for future investments
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
No harm in doing a little research. I did look at the Sabrent enclosure first, but after heavy deliberation, I figured this one would serve the type of SSD I got and how I am using it, and having the small fan in it is nice. Funny thing that the fan kicks in on the enclosure more often than the mini. I’ve actually never heard the fan on the mini 😀 No shame in waiting as we’ll see more updates coming in the next couple of months. I was just glad to see MOTU was taking it upon themselves to keep updating their blog with news.
@dennisgoedbloed1287
@dennisgoedbloed1287 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this informative video. I like how you approach this in an honest way from many angles. Appreciated!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Just doing my best. Happy to help and appreciate you hanging out here. 👊
@dennisgoedbloed1287
@dennisgoedbloed1287 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Will return most definitely for more, keep up the honest reviews and appealing tone of voice (and choice of words)!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Well it is a pleasure to have you here. Appreciate you as well 👍
@paulgill3785
@paulgill3785 4 жыл бұрын
Ubiquitous; now you just left the competition behind in a jumble of literary dust. 😂 Merry Christmas Kevin.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Paul! Good to see you around here sir. That one was for you 😉 Merry Christmas to you as well 🎄
@InfinityFishing
@InfinityFishing 3 жыл бұрын
SUBBED AS WELL ! Im quite peaky on KZbin channels but your Mac perspective really took my attention , literally deserve much more subs ! good luck Kevin..
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Well glad that you found it helpful friend. Look forward to seeing you around the channel. More Mac related content will certainly be coming out.
@EarleMonroe
@EarleMonroe 3 жыл бұрын
Fledgling sells the enclosure with SSD's inside. The 2tb one adds $240 to the price, compared to the one you put in from Silicon Power, which is $320. I'm not super familiar with the tech specs and capabilities. Can you tell me if the one you can buy directly from them is as good as the SP one you installed?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
So the Silicon Power is a Gen 4 chip, which is way more than the enclosure can handle. I’ll have to double check the SSD in the enclosure...hang tight on that, but I do think you’ll be just fine on what they offer.
@EarleMonroe
@EarleMonroe 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Thank you! I won't be doing video, but I'm finally getting around to running my audio off an external drive. And since I'm going to be using it for a lot of live performing, this drive could help minimize latency. Thanks for the great overview and content!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
So double checking the SSD, it is a Gen 3 SSD, but plenty fast for your needs. Which system are you currently using?
@EarleMonroe
@EarleMonroe 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN I'm on a 2016 15" Macbook Pro, 2.9 GHz Quad core i7, 1tb internal SSD. Sounds like this external SSD might be faster than what's inside my MBP.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tested the read and write on the internal in that setup?
@ShervinShares
@ShervinShares 3 жыл бұрын
is it reliable long term though?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
I happened to be using it today.
@VanDan
@VanDan 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, thank you for your very informative video(s). You've made me decided to buy this kind of external SSD. I have some issues understanding which enclosure I should buy. I want a 2TB SSD but for the enclosure from the amazon link, I have multiple choice, should I take the 0GB or the 2TB version ? If I choose the 2TB, is there actually storage capacity inside or it is just the shell ? Thanks in advance !
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So yeah, the 2 TB version does have the SSD in it while the 0GB is just the enclosure. Mine is still going strong. I love it.
@VanDan
@VanDan 3 жыл бұрын
​@@KevinRossRN Thanks for your help ! Well the 0GB costs 200€ (+ shipping) in France, and the 2TB SP SSD 350€, which would make a total of 550€ (+ shipping)... That's a lot ! Do you have maybe a cheaper alternative for a Thunderbolt3 enclosure that doesn't have over heating issues or compatibility with the SSD you recommand ?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
It is quite an investment. These TB3 enclosures are definitely more expensive than the usb-c Gen 2 enclosure. Have you found any cheaper SSD (NVMe) chips other than the Silicon power? What about the Western Digital SN750? I have two of those. Also, would you be opposed to an all in one like the Samsung T5 or SanDisk extreme?
@VanDan
@VanDan 3 жыл бұрын
​@@KevinRossRN The Western Digital SN750 is almost the same price here unfortunately. I already have a Samsung T7 (500GB) but it's already full, I even can't open the Library on Final Cut anymore. I decided to go with a Sabrent Rocket XTRM-Q (Tunderbolt3) not fast as a chip but faster than a Samsung T7. A good compromise between the two alternatives for cheaper. (350€ - 2TB). Thanks again for your guidance, keep up the good work Kevin.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you circling back around with what you landed on and I do think this should be capable. Feel free to pop back over to let us know how it’s working and if you’re getting any random disconnects or have issues, although I believe the latest updates to Big Sur should eliminated those issues.
@geoffm9224
@geoffm9224 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up Kevin. Excellent review, better than anyone else doing the same.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that friend. 🤙
@aemateus
@aemateus 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Kevin! Got a new sub :D
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Well I look forward to seeing you around here. Many thanks.
@petera6191
@petera6191 3 жыл бұрын
Great Review... I really like, how you reviewed the Temperature on the devices.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad it helped you out.
@eddiereyes1909
@eddiereyes1909 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I needed to here that!! 😱😱
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped.
@CloodyTube
@CloodyTube 3 жыл бұрын
Could you identical render and export of an external ssd vs internal? How close those 2 are? I'm debating weather to get a 4tb external ssd with the base m1 max model of 1tb or a m1 max with 4tb
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
I have done a couple of videos on this. One of my recent ones from the last couple of months. The short answer…they’re almost the same.
@CloodyTube
@CloodyTube 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Thank you I will check it!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Sure thing, I think it was this one: M1 Pro and M1 Max | Choose The Fastest External SSD? kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4WtkJ9rZ8pjl7M
@antoineleguen5845
@antoineleguen5845 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, extremely useful video thank you ! Could you please do a follow up on the new M1 Max to see if its worth upgrading the internals this time or if TB3 is fixed with the new chip ?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah on my initial M1 Max video I did mention this and it seems the synthetic benchmarks are hinting to improved performance, but I am testing this next in that series of tests on this new machine.
@Cameraworksltd
@Cameraworksltd 2 жыл бұрын
Ssds are great for video editing. You can also speed up your read writes by putting your os on an external nvme and booting usb 3 ss.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I run an OS on an external for one of my machines. So far, it’s been great.
@ernieg
@ernieg 4 жыл бұрын
Hey that’s my backyard. Santa Monica California. Best Side the West Side. 👍🏽
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! That’s so rad that you popped over here to see that footage. I find it fun to see footage of Colorado that others have filmed. Pretty cool. Thanks so much for dropping over 🤙
@haneefa6754
@haneefa6754 2 жыл бұрын
Great... regarding the full potential of thunderbolt... need to take care of cable and the connectors brother
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 2 жыл бұрын
If only it were that easy on these M1s. Would be awesome.
@martialartsunlimited01
@martialartsunlimited01 3 жыл бұрын
I've been quite happy with my Samsung 4TB QVO drive in a USB 3 enclosure. Although I am using an older mackbook 2015 for my editing. I have used the Sandisk but the storage gets eaten up to fast.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
That 4TB is definitely nice to have. And a great reason to have these enclosures is being able to upgrade the SSD.
@martialartsunlimited01
@martialartsunlimited01 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Yeah, but I need to figure out a better way to manage my files. They get so big, this is my 2nd external drive. 1TB sandisk made it like 1 month. Even after trying to clear optimized files and such.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
I would highly recommend a NAS. I’ve been trying to put together something because I’m upgrading mine, but the external SSD is much better for working off of then storing, and specifically because of the cost per TB.
@ivanzadrabaj
@ivanzadrabaj 3 жыл бұрын
Please tell me that what file system do you use on thaa SSD setup... Thank you ...
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
The format is APFS.
@ivanzadrabaj
@ivanzadrabaj 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for quick answer. Merry XMAS.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
You bet. And same to you friend 🎄
@MankindFilm
@MankindFilm 4 жыл бұрын
Loving this channel right now, testing what I don't have the money to test, so I can decide on a better set up. Weird my SSDs max speeds on ANY port is 380~ so theres so sort of bottle neck happening.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So are you using something like the T5 with 500-550 Read/Write?
@MankindFilm
@MankindFilm 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Yep thats the one!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, with the testing that I’ve been doing I was a bit miffed a out these benchmarks, especially on the mid tier read and write. We’re still limited by what the program is writing at, but obviously a faster drive with higher throughput will help some, but the just hope we can get some kind of update that will open up that throughput on these TB3 controllers. There’s a slim chance that Apple is going to come right out and admit that this is an issue, so I think a low key “update” in the code may get buried in one of these Big Sur updates...I hope. The efficiency of the M1 though is still such a massive gain in productivity for many of us though.
@GrahamUhelski
@GrahamUhelski 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN oh man I hope so, but again I’ve been flying through 6k braw footage with LUTs and not missing a frame even with bottlenecked SSD speeds, if they fix it, the power I’ll be able to yield...just might be too much for me haha
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Hold on because it might knock you over 😆
@jerryvmorales6400
@jerryvmorales6400 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin , thank you for this Video . I`m now your newest subscriber . I`m eyeing to buy a Mac Mini M1 next year so this info is really helpful !
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great little machine, just sayin' Look forward to seeing you around the channel.
@RaphaelDeVarona
@RaphaelDeVarona 3 жыл бұрын
Just awesome all around. Thank you kind sir for your hard work. Glad I found your channel.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
And I’m glad to have you here. Thanks!
@GavinRoche
@GavinRoche 4 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about video editing but your tone is calm and inviting.. I think I could listen to you talking about cow shite. Got my sub sir
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Stay tuned to the next one then. Steaming cow pies coming up 😉
@freddierodriguez3036
@freddierodriguez3036 4 жыл бұрын
This is a good idea since I’m switching from a Mid-12 MacBook that has an upgraded (installed it a year ago) Samsung SSD. Should be able to save some money taking this route. Thanks!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Say what!? Saving money and getting speed? Now that’s what I love to hear. Just double check your compatibility on that SSD, but if it’s M.2 then you’re good to go.
@freddierodriguez3036
@freddierodriguez3036 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN ok, thanks, Merry Christmas!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
You bet. Merry Christmas to you as well 🎄
@TheGippy30
@TheGippy30 3 жыл бұрын
I have just set up a western digital SN750 with a sabrent thunderbolt 3 enclosure, its a cheap option, however it doesnt have a fan
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
My Acasis enclosures don’t have a fan. They’ve been just fine. Sabrent is quite a popular choice it seems.
@TheGippy30
@TheGippy30 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN only because theyre cheap, lets hope its fast and reliable
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Sending my best 🤞🍀
@TheGippy30
@TheGippy30 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin need your advice please, that sabrent only runs upto 1600 and im using an sn750, so im returning the sabrent, can you recommend something else that is not too expensive, but supports good speeds, thanks Matt
@TheGippy30
@TheGippy30 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin my Fledgling enclosure arrived, set it up with a WD SN750 SSD, black magic states write 1700-1900 and read around 2500-2700, much faster than the Sabrent at 1600, thanks for this great video
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Well alright. Good to hear you got some improvement there. This is always great to get these numbers because I wish I could test every enclosure, but just don’t have the resources to do so. I’m glad it’s better and I hope you continue to get better throughput.
@TheGippy30
@TheGippy30 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN it was tested on an intel macbook, im waiting for an M1X, and hope they improve TB3 with them
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
You and me both. I can imagine people hitting the roof if we can get a true Thunderbolt4 experience.
@PeterKaitlyn
@PeterKaitlyn 3 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI... you don't need to render before you output to any format with the more recent version of FCP... The output process now includes rendering as a default function... Your output time might be a little bit better if you have rendered, but it will end up being the same amount of time either way... FCPX is simply writing a file with the manipulations you have determined... rather than rendering and then writing the file from the rendered version as it used to do... I'm pretty sure that this has been the case for a while now... It's been a while since I had to render and then only so for smooth playback when I had a lot of filters on something.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I have some follow up videos to this one where background rendering is off and I just export. And yes, it’s roughly the same amount of time. I’ve been using FCPX for awhile so with this iterative updates some of these older habits are harder to get rid of. But again, I do agree. 😉
@PeterKaitlyn
@PeterKaitlyn 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN I've been using FCP since version 1.0... long time... Talk about unlearning... I'm mostly retired now and just doing my own videos... Lots of Motion work... you can seen them here if you want... kzbin.info --- I specialize in Self Help Videos... but have done a bit of everything over the years... Retired now, but If you want a second opinion, I'd be happy to lend an ear.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
You have been using FCP for awhile. I started with 7, but didn’t use it exclusively like I use FCPX now. I’ll definitely check out your channel, friend. Appreciate you hanging on this one.
@BrokenSilvia
@BrokenSilvia 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thank you
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate it, and thankful for the time you spent here.
@JavierMercedes
@JavierMercedes 4 жыл бұрын
Clicked because I saw the Still Company hat, wasn't disappointed, great video Kevin!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! I need to tell Adrian I’m leveraging her clothing company for clickbait thumbnails 😆 Much appreciate you Javier. Glad to be of service. Many thanks 🙏
@TheEmrickman
@TheEmrickman 3 жыл бұрын
Now I need to try these on my new m1 Imac I just ordered.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome you preordered a new iMac. Which one did you go with?
@TheEmrickman
@TheEmrickman 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN I ordered a blue 8 core GPU version with 16GB and 512 SSD. Big upgrade from my old 27" Imac from late 2013. With the 512 GB internal, I know I need to set up a 1-2TB external drive.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
The blue is a nice color. And yeah, I’d say for anything intensive that 16GB of ram will help. And even with a 1TB internal, I have several of these enclosures I work from.
@TheEmrickman
@TheEmrickman 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Like the other thread, I may go DIY enclosure, unsure about the OWC hubs, but if the speed is doubled ...maybe.
@TomNguyen
@TomNguyen 3 жыл бұрын
There are reviewers who have great information to share, but their personalities/presentation can be grating/annoying/unwatchable. You have a great personality for presenting...please don't change!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Well I appreciate that friend. Glad you’re here and I hope to continue to provide value. Many thanks. 🤙👊
@blackcoalboy
@blackcoalboy Жыл бұрын
Great video tell me will all this apply to the newer M2 CHIP.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN Жыл бұрын
It’ll be even better. Fledging went out of business, but the Acasis I have linked up is great. Use it all the time.
@SteveOfTheMountains
@SteveOfTheMountains 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work on this
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
You bet 👍 Thank you!
@vladpsychotrope3187
@vladpsychotrope3187 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth review, a little patience seems to be the wiser of the two options. Anyone who has time to fiddle around and experiment inside of drive enclosures, instead of rolling with the tried and true option (Sandisk) in this case, has other potentially disastrous variables to consider. Get to work!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 2 жыл бұрын
And thanks for your time here. Working now. 😉
@hanle4227
@hanle4227 3 жыл бұрын
Comes from another video about saving money with external drives. Bought one samsung T7 just now. Just curious whats the software you are using to monitor the system activity. At 11:53 it seems can monitor different external drives read/write which is fancy.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
That T7 is solid and the monitoring app I’m using is iStat Menus. I still use it.
@hanle4227
@hanle4227 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Great! thank you so much for your quick reply.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
You bet.
@jiwanrekha8432
@jiwanrekha8432 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man 👍 , noone literally noone tech review channels perform any such kind of test , you are gonna make it to 1 million very soon , mark my words but by that time you might not be reading and replying our comments 🤠
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I’m going to keep replying to as many as I can, for as long as I can. It’s not easy, but I know it means a lot to both me and the community here😉 Appreciate your time. 👊
@aporiac1960
@aporiac1960 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to have super high speed external storage, but I doubt it's a critical requirement for the vast majority of people, even they are processing a fair amount of video. I do about an hour's worth of video editing a week. I only ever keep the files associated with the current project on the local disk because it's only when I'm actively working on that project does disk performance impact production. As soon as the project is finished, and I'm ready to move onto something else, I transfer the files to external storage, freeing up the local disk space for the next project. Unless you follow a practice like this there is no amount of internal storage that will ever be enough - it's only a question of WHEN you are going to run out, so it's an essential habit to get into. The matter to be determined then, is how to optimise the use of the different types of storage available to maximise performance where you need it, and minimise cost where you don't. The time taken to archive files is generally not critical to any work output, certainly doesn't impact video processing work, and can happen while you're engaged in other activities and so within limits it doesn't really matter how long it takes. All you need to calculate, therefore, is what constitutes your true 'working space', and size your high-performance/high-cost storage (whether built-in or external) accordingly. For all other storage, performance is secondary, and you are better to save money/increase capacity. Obviously, if you need to revisit a project that's been archived there will be an overhead in retrieving it, but that should only be an occasional event and so a minute extra here or there makes no difference. People often believe they need something that they don't, when what they actually need is to work more efficiently.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Very well stated friend. I appreciate you dropping that detailed nugget of information here and your own experience.
@TheStringBreaker
@TheStringBreaker 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent content! Subbed!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
And that’s a mighty fine comment 😉 Thanks! It’ll be great to have you around.
@Matt.Gillard
@Matt.Gillard 3 жыл бұрын
Duuude, just found your channel! Super good, got a sub from me. Looking forward to watching more!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Definitely more testing once those next MBPs get in our hands. Awesome you’re here.
@circuitsandcigars1278
@circuitsandcigars1278 3 жыл бұрын
Jerry Schultze just did an SSD test and high temp slowed SSDs waaaayyy down
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll check out his video. What I will say is that I’ve followed up and tested this again, and used a hub to saturate the throughput as much as possible. Even tested it on the M1 iPad Pro. Unfortunately it seems the controller can adequately manage the communication protocol unless it’s close to or fully saturated, which takes several tasks running simultaneously to do 🤷‍♂️
@HershelPeppers
@HershelPeppers 4 жыл бұрын
You’re a good guy, Kevin.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Well I appreciate you taking the time to let me know, friend.
@eduardopena6397
@eduardopena6397 3 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on AGP Tek usb hub with ssd slot for mac mini m1. Woul you make a heat test for that gadget?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard of that one and it doesn’t appear that I can get access to that particular one. Wish I could help.
@LightWingStudios
@LightWingStudios 4 жыл бұрын
The AMOUNT OF RAM in the machine will also have an impact AFTER the file has been loaded. Less RAM and you'll be going back to the SSD to read the file. More RAM you have, the less frequently (if at all) it will go back to the SSD to read the file. Adjusting your System Cache will also have a SIGNIFICANT impact.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
I’m all for more RAM. Appreciate you weighing in here friend. 👊
@ForestHill_UMC
@ForestHill_UMC 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin, Great video! I just subscribed. I’ve heard that getting an OTC Thunderbolt Hub (mysteriously) improves the M1 Mac Mini’s read/write times for external SSDs. I would love to see/hear your perspective.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, great to have you here friend. Sounds like you haven’t gone down the rabbit hole on the channel yet 😁 You might find my thoughts here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ2QiGNobtlngrM 😉 There’s definitely a lot more to unpack on this issue.
@ForestHill_UMC
@ForestHill_UMC 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It seems that all I’ve been doing today is watch your videos. You do great work, and I have a lot of catching up to do. #1. I will check out your thoughts. #2. I had a typo (i.e. “OWC Thunderbolt”). Oops, and thank you!
@lukerabin5079
@lukerabin5079 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking at a TB3 external drive array to assist in moving my stored archives etc out of an old Mac Pro 5,1. Another thing I’m looking at is replacing the 3.5 drives with shuttles to take one or two NVME drives per shuttle and then raid them, to see if that helps with lowering heat to each, given that they’re in theory only relying on half the file being written or read from each of the drive pairs. It should be interesting, that’s for sure.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have your sights set on a particular SSD? Also, the more you pressure those Thunderbolt ports, the higher the throughput you’ll get.
@lukerabin5079
@lukerabin5079 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN I’ve had great success with Samsung, but getting them locally can be a bit tricky, now that I’m not in the US. I really wanted to use a OWC enclosure, but currently there’s a 148 day delay on getting it, so there’s an Amazon located brand that includes some extra TB ports, some USB3 and display ports as well, so I can use those ports to minimise the smaller bits of stuff hanging off the size of my M1 MBP. It’ll be interesting to see how few bays I can get down to, given there have been too many 24 and 30 bay drive arrays in my past ..l and that was when HD was was all we were up against! 4k, 8k….crazy!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Whenever you get your setup dialed in I’d love to hear how it all goes for you. I’m actually testing the Samsung 970 EVO plus and comparing that with the SN750. Interesting so far. I’m still in the middle of it, but it’s interesting to see the results on the M1 with that Thunderbolt communication protocol. Slightly slower in transfers, but other tasks the differences aren’t really noticeable.
@lukerabin5079
@lukerabin5079 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN I think it’s the 970’s I’ve got on order. I think I’ve got 2 Tb sticks, given the price to performance ratio is pretty outstanding. My guess is that it won’t be that long til every slot is at least 4Tb, as the higher end gets cheaper to access.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
I think with the RAID setup you may not notice the difference, however I’d still be curious. With TB3 on the Mac I’m seeing that cache limit on the 970 causing it to throttle on large transfers vs. the SN750 maintaining its throughput. However, with 3.1 Gen 2 protocol, the 970 will hold steady.
@ronsmaron6189
@ronsmaron6189 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s something I found from another site about enabling the read/write cache in a dell enclosure. Does that apply? JDS99 JDS99 2 Bronze ‎04-30-2020 07:23 PM Re: Drives in Thunderbolt enclosure very slow @sasman1964 @real_telemarker Yes, you have to really want it! Go to the Properties settings for the drive (right click on the File Explorer drive icon, for example). Then go to the Hardware tab. Click the Properties button. On the second Properties window on the General tab, click the Change Settings button. You will need Admin privileges/password. Go to the Policies tab, in the Removal Policy box. Click the Better Performance radio button. Then you can check the Enable write-cache box. Note that this could damage the volume if your enclosure is disconnected somehow while the system is writing to the drive. And the USB-C connectors (Thunderbolt 3) are famous for being a bit loose. This will help a spinning HD with a SATA interface. I believe it will help an SSD more, especially if it is on an NVM.e interface. Good luck! 0 Kudos Reply Fabiolander Fabiolander 2 Bronze ‎12-03-2020 10:56 AM Re: Drives in Thunderbolt enclosure very slow Hi, Thank you so much ! I have a ticket open since weeks but DELL support (as usual) just ask to reinstall the drivers.... On my old macbook pro (2017) the transfert of a folder with thunsand RAW files takes less than 2 minutes ( 1,4 Gb/sec ) on the XPS it takes more than 15 minutes ( Same folder, Same Drive ) Thanks to your trick now my XPS climbs to 900 Mb / sec and take around 2:30
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ron. I’ll look further into this. I did do an updated video which mentions that this is likely a hardware issue with M1 based on the controllers/retimers in the machine. Unfortunate to find this out, but so far the OS updates haven’t addressed it, nor do I think they’re able to 🤷‍♂️ But I’ll pour over this info you sent. 👍
@mykeekym
@mykeekym 4 жыл бұрын
Here in the Philippines, the ssd itself is affordable however the enclosure is almost the same price with the ssd.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah depending on where you’re buying these DIY setups may be quite the investment. It’s great from an upgradability stand point, but I will say that the already built enclosures are still a great value. With these latest Mac machines however, it’s really the only thing you can upgrade since there’s no way to add more once you’ve purchased it.
@mykeekym
@mykeekym 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN true. Though buying an external ssd is much cheaper than upgrading storage from them. I have been looking out for a good storage for edit out. E
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Oh for sure. This is definitely an investment worth making, I think. Not to mention the obvious use with other machines if you decide to switch to something else.
@DC-ti3ci
@DC-ti3ci 3 жыл бұрын
Great production and lovely audio! Liked and subbed. Have you compared this to the Sabrent Rocket XTRM-Q SSDs? Apparently the Sabrent is fastest with higher SLC cache? Thanks again and keep them videos coming!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tested this one, but I’m interested because I’ve heard it’s been randomly disconnecting on people, which I’d love to check this myself. However, I am literally (right now) in the middle of testing another NVMe SSD in this same enclosure, and I also have a USB4 enclosure coming in by tomorrow that I’m going to be putting it up against, because on paper, it should be faster than anything out there right now...but this is on paper. I’m going to work it over good and I’ll be posting this video soon.
@DC-ti3ci
@DC-ti3ci 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Thanks for the work you put in these! Looking forward to the vids!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
You bet. Will have an update out on the USB4 enclosure soon.
@bendixtrinity
@bendixtrinity Жыл бұрын
11:47 what is that app the shows read/write status?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN Жыл бұрын
iStat menu. Love it.
@seekyefirstknowledge9127
@seekyefirstknowledge9127 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna do this, looks like fun.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
It definitely is fun my friend. If you try it, let me know how it goes.
@Br0adCastYourS3lf
@Br0adCastYourS3lf 4 жыл бұрын
Does the thermal tape actually make contact with the lid of the enclosure?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
It does. There’s double sided adhesive so you could choose to leave that side as non adhering...if you want. The fact that this enclosure has a fan though, it’s hard to say what the thermal tape is actually doing. But, I just wanted to at least show that piece of the build.
@Br0adCastYourS3lf
@Br0adCastYourS3lf 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN That makes it really tempting to disconnect the fan though. I realise that I shouldn’t. P.S. Thanks for your honesty and clear explanations throughout your videos.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Well I suppose if it becomes annoying. Not to mention that there will be a little more room on the enclosure for heat dissipation...I suppose. Thanks so much for hanging. Happy to help where I can.
@Br0adCastYourS3lf
@Br0adCastYourS3lf 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN I will give it a shot when my Mini M1 arrives end of January week 2.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Hopefully your shipping date gets bumped up sooner. 😉
@phcalama
@phcalama 3 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the OWC Envoy Pro EX drives?
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve worked with the OWC SSDs, but not this particular enclosure. I believe within this thread there’s been a few that have said they got mixed results with this enclosure.
@ChrisGen
@ChrisGen 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this info. I'm goning to get the gen3 and put this together. Could I ask, which monitoring app are you using for your M1 on the menu bar? I'm trying to look for one that works with M1 well. Many thanks, and great video. Subbed!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Gen 3 will definitely be a cheaper way to go. 🤙
@artville9573
@artville9573 Жыл бұрын
Hey man your video was great, I learned a lot. I hope you can help me on my Imac 2017 27 inch. cuz its getting slow now when I do video editing and graphics what would you suggest for the external hard drive to be able to speed up at least? Do I need to use and work directly on the external hardrive with new mac OS? and use the old fusion drive as my back up files? Thank you!
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN Жыл бұрын
It depends on the program, but for video editing you should be able to work on the external without issue. I would recommend at least 1,000MBs read and write because you’re not going to reach speeds beyond that (typically), because the limitation will be with the CPU and GPU reading and writing.
@michaelbrown9315
@michaelbrown9315 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed info and comparison.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
You got it 👍 And thank you.
@laskovisuals9943
@laskovisuals9943 4 жыл бұрын
at 14:30 you talk about the "internal drive" render and export times. Super fast internal render and export times. Did you experience any dropped frames while testing this? I'm trying to figure out why mine is dropping frames.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Hey friend, Just going back through comments. Can't remember if we addressed this. Sometimes KZbin gets silly in the way it handles these comment threads through the creator studio. Anyway, the only time I've experienced dropped frames is when I was editing on the MacBook Air and I was pushing it so hard that I actually got it to throttle back, but it recovered fairly quickly once I backed off.
@laskovisuals9943
@laskovisuals9943 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN yah sorry we were chatting on your other videos comment section. Would mine be dropping frames while editing off the internal SSD because My final cut library is massive? I’m trying to pinpoint what’s going on cause all the reviews say it can edit this footage with no problem, yet mine is far from smooth. With that said I did order the Sandisk extreme pro off of your affiliate link and I’ll be using your work flow going forward. Just want to figure out if I can make it faster in the mean time for the edits I have to do before getting the Sandisk next week.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
So remind me again, you got 16 GBs of RAM, correct? And what about your settings in FCPX as far as quality vs optimized? I mean I continue to run on best quality, and some of my videos, I’ve got multicam (with three cameras), correction, LUTs on all footage, transitions, music, separate audio tracks. Hope we can figure this out because I certainly don’t want you to have bad info and more importantly a bad workflow. Heck, because of the M1 workflow I’m able to start a brand new channel because of the time I’ve gotten back, but you didn’t hear that from me 🤫 Anyway, hopefully we can get this figured out.
@laskovisuals9943
@laskovisuals9943 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN yes 16gbs of ram. Both best quality and better performance are dropping frames. So to recap - I’m editing off the internal SSD - final cut is on internal ssd - a7siii - 4K 60 and 120 8 bit. Grades, speed ramps, 3rd party titles. And I’m getting really laggy performance and dropping frames especially once speed ramps are added. Hitting play while editing there is a second delay lag. Tried with background render off - it lags. Once it’s render it doesn’t lag. But it’s still just painful to edit like this. Have you done any tests straight off of the internal ssd? Did you experience this? Wondering if I should start a fresh library ( this one is from my iMac - which I ever experienced any of this and I was editing of an older HDD )
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve done a lot of tests in the internal. One thing I will say is that I did manually port in all of my third party plugins. If there was an issue, I moved it out. There was one from Pixel Film (can’t remember off the top of my head) that I was testing and I got FCP to crash...purposely. Once I removed it out of the templates folder, it was all good. Basically, I didn’t do a transfer “my Mac” info from a time machine backup. I did a clean install of everything. You really should be cutting that footage like nothing. What happens if you disable those third party titles? And to your point, any projects I had on my old machine and earlier 10.4.6 version of FCP, I didn’t upgrade them. I just started with a brand new library and exported the timeline via the XML option in FCP and re-linked the media into the new timeline. That could be a way to test it. 🤷‍♂️
@Holtenstein
@Holtenstein 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the Fledging Shell Thunder after watching this video. I added the WD Black 1TB drive they recommend for best performance. I can't get a score over 1700 MB/s read and write on both my 2019 iMac and my M1 MacBook!!! Also tested the Samsung 970 plus 1TB that they said doesn't work. It performed the same way. Also, I can only get the drive to be seen by either computer with a Thunderbolt 4 cable. Not a single Thunderbolt 3 cable, including the supplied one, work at all. I may have got a bad unit based on your results...
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting and appreciate you sharing this experience. So as far as that’s cable, that is odd, and possibly a bad enclosure? However let’s dig a little deeper. When you formatted the drive, which file format did you go with? Also, is this the WD SN750?
@Holtenstein
@Holtenstein 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Yes, The WD SN750 and the Samsung 970 plus both 1TB. I formatted and tested both APFS, OS Extended, and ExFat. OS extended was slightly slower.
@Holtenstein
@Holtenstein 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN I contacted tech support as well. They offered to send a replacement Thunderbolt cable but that isn't the issue.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah extended will be slightly slower. Glad you were able to get in touch with support. So as far as the read and write, have you tested other synthetic benchmarking apps, and have you tried to run a task like editing (or similar) on both the internal and the external enclosure? Also, do you happen to have an external monitor connected to your MBP?
@Holtenstein
@Holtenstein 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN Well, after your feedback I did an Amazon return and received a replacement unit. I just tested it and it's much faster! 2300 MB/s read and 2500 MB/s write speeds. Turns out I did indeed get a bad unit. Thanks for your help! Also, the supplied cable now works too
@PaceyPimp
@PaceyPimp 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Sabrent Thunderbolt 3 M.2 NVMe SSD Solid Aluminum Enclosure is this equal to the enclosure on this video? Also test it with Gen 4 MVNE
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
So do keep in mind that the Gen 4 SSD will only perform as fast as the enclosure will allow. I haven’t tested the Sabrent, but others in the community here have and some reported good results while others had a mixed experience. The real difference between the Sabrent and the USB4 is the comparability with non thunderbolt devices.
@dustinwongphotos
@dustinwongphotos 4 жыл бұрын
Get the Sabrent XTRM-Q Tb3 Nvme, it’s affordable, extremely fast and compact. Downside is that it gets hot when doing large transfers.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the thermal management was my concern. I had reached out to Sabrent with a specific question, but never heard back 🤷‍♂️ But yes, it can definitely be an option for many. Is this what you have?
@dustinwongphotos
@dustinwongphotos 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that despite the temps it’s all within the design specs. So they are saying it won’t be an issue. I guess you will have to trust their internal testing validation. I have the 8tb. So far working smoothly, but haven’t done benchmarks or large exports. To me if you have a TB port and can afford it the Sabrent is way better than the SanDisk and some people don’t want to tinker and build something themselves. For those people I think the XTRM is the best one out there at the moment.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think the tinkering may put some people off, although it’s not difficult, however plug and play is what most are interested in. I’m sure I’ll be testing a Sabrent version at some point. It was actually my first pick, but then this Fledging enclosure crossed my path.
@dustinwongphotos
@dustinwongphotos 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN id be interested to see if the XTRM Q drive also suffers on write performance w the M1. TB controllers are not all equal.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I looked at that to review as well. I’d honestly like to have several of these enclosures to test against each other.
@karensixtos6587
@karensixtos6587 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and great information.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Much appreciated 🙏
@QuanNguyenHuynh
@QuanNguyenHuynh 3 жыл бұрын
I followed you after this video. Respectful effort
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks friend. Glad to help.
@ronsmaron6189
@ronsmaron6189 3 жыл бұрын
Could I use this Shell/Rocket combo along with an Apple Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter to boot up a mid-2014 MacBook Pro (Thunderbolt 1)? I’m nursing this old MBP until the new 14” M1x MBP comes out in July-August.
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 3 жыл бұрын
TB3 is backward compatible and with the right adapters it should work, however I haven’t tested this because I don’t have a TB2 or TB1 Mac to test it on. Unfortunately 🤷‍♂️
@shootcutdeliver
@shootcutdeliver 4 жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting for new M1x in i mac 27inch 32Gigs ram - hopefully no longer then April 2021 -
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll be there will you 😉😎 Let’s hope for a redesign.
@shootcutdeliver
@shootcutdeliver 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinRossRN I’m sure we are going that as well - my A7S3 / ninja V coming Monday - I’ll just have to transcode using my current late 2014 5K I Mac fully loaded - although I can definitely edit multi cam 4K from A7S2 Camera codec -
@KevinRossRN
@KevinRossRN 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice! I just love that footage. I’ve had a few folks send me their footage and it’s just jaw dropping what that camera produces. Here’s to hobbling along on your current setup and that you don’t have to wait too long. 😉
@VSPOT415
@VSPOT415 4 жыл бұрын
The 4k 120p is insane! I finally put it through it's paces yesterday and oh my God it's gorgeous straight out of the camera and the auto focus is amazing
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