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@estifanosbireda18922 ай бұрын
@JarrodsTech do you recommend buying laptops with the 13th and 14th gen intel cpus? There is a problem with the desktop version of these cpus and there has also been some reports on the "HX" version of these cpus. Have you noticed any instabilities with these laptops? I know the instabilities arise later in time but just curious.
@73greycat432 ай бұрын
Hi just checking, did you review the model with the mini-led?
@Prakash70452 ай бұрын
Please suggest do I go for dell g15 from the deals website?
@a3per8182 ай бұрын
I wonder how much of a difference a cooling pad would make *while* in water cooling mode
@joederp75122 ай бұрын
Off the video topic above the Weeping world is Insomnium's best album
@Kumoiwa2 ай бұрын
Not offering an OLED or MiniLED screen in a 3000+ bucks laptop is criminal imo
@ShuriShoto2 ай бұрын
True
@PomuLeafEveryday2 ай бұрын
I only want OLED if it's a touchscreen. Otherwise the matte LCD is much easier on the eyes, less glare too. OLED always gets paired with glossy screens and I hate it.
@elderman642 ай бұрын
@@PomuLeafEveryday How is that an OLED issue lol, just manufacturers being not the smartest people
@escapetherace19432 ай бұрын
OLED is a meme anyways, totally still not worth it
@elderman642 ай бұрын
@@escapetherace1943 I assume this is what Apple users think like when they still use a 60hz crappy display
@michaelwesten46242 ай бұрын
fun fact, if the cooler fan didn't have RBG on it, it wouldn't be able to cool as much as it does now. the flashy colours are integral to it's performance
@EpicBunty2 ай бұрын
The opposite actually lol
@arkadiuszkawak63792 ай бұрын
woosh? @@EpicBunty
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat2 ай бұрын
RGB = more FPS 😎😎🗿🗿
@ShuriShoto2 ай бұрын
RGB= Reasonable Gaming Boost
@Spurdospaerde6922 ай бұрын
The liquid is not distilled water, but actual clown puke.
@salzstange63412 ай бұрын
me with the Neo 16 from last year: "god damn it"
@TipsyTaterTot2 ай бұрын
This is why I don't watch this channel often lol
@jlb46852 ай бұрын
Laptop life unfortunately. The best possible time to upgrade is at the start of a new GPU cycle.
@salzstange63412 ай бұрын
@@jlb4685 I am still very happy with my neo 16e23 but seeing the upgrades in materials, application of watercooling to the CPU and the less wobbly screen… could have been last year already. Game performance seems almost the same tho. Btw. I have the 4080 not 4090
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Hey bro you can order new cooling system and diy to your e23. But will require knowledge and some work. Plus change the cable from water cooler to new one. You can grab the better screen from asus scar g16 and you are in the right side of the moon again
@AirGunWeb2 ай бұрын
This looks like a nice upgrade for them. The styling has a lot of Lenovo vibes. I have the 12700H 3070TI Prometheus XVII Version, and it's still holding its own for anything I need to do. I like the move to all aluminum, as the plastic on mine is a little soft. I had to replace the bottom cover because some of it just crumbled after one or two entries to do some upgrades. At least Eluktronics had spare parts available, so that's good. Anyway, looks really nice. I'm glad to see them continue to push the water-cooled laptop options. Cheers Rick
@shrey5222 ай бұрын
We are expecting you to make a video on Intel HX series issues. Entire laptop community is worried right now.
@shrey5222 ай бұрын
1.5v Core VIDs are too high for desktops and this can degrade the CPU in the long run, can you imagine the power going into laptops. Your insights are much appreciated.
@TarnishedEldenKing2 ай бұрын
so far, laptops issues are almost non existent as they pump way less power than desktop, almost no reported issues compared to desktops, only from that 1 reddit post about a company having issues...but yeah not that big of a deal.
@rrrajlive2 ай бұрын
I have one too 😢
@deepbludreams2 ай бұрын
@entropicking6007 the issue is present in the HX CPUs on laptops as far as I'm aware, while not severe as desktop applications, CPU degradation is occurring on these units, it's just that few laptops can wack their CPUs to 200+ watts like the Neo16 and Scar can, thus the delay in said issue occurs at a further out point. Server farms had 13th and 14th gen stuff fail all the way down at 30 watts, nothing in this generation is safe from the issue, at best it can be delayed.
@shrey5222 ай бұрын
@@rrrajlive undervolt and wait for the micro code. Actually no one knows what's wrong with Intel CPU's, even Intel 😅
@TechGuyBeau2 ай бұрын
“More chonk, means more performance” Agreed…. (He says eyeing a full chocolate cake).
@Jasper-yz7vy2 ай бұрын
Still waiting for Intel Core Ultra vs Ryzen AI 9 HX
@mightymallet54742 ай бұрын
ryzen ai 9 hx is faster on single core, has a better integrated gpu, and is better at battery timing as well thanks to performance per watt being noticably higher
@whitehavencpu68132 ай бұрын
X3D versions should win in gaming, atleast as long as the GPU isn't the bottleneck.
@Kumoiwa2 ай бұрын
@@whitehavencpu6813 Most gaming laptops are offered with top of the line CPUs and games only use a couple of cores anyways but laptop GPUs are very power constraint, so most of the time the bottleneck is the GPU
@whitehavencpu68132 ай бұрын
@@Kumoiwa exactly.
@Aditya-sj4ev2 ай бұрын
@@mightymallet5474 ryzen is not beating lunar lake.
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
Thank you Jarrod for this extremely detailed and comprehensive review. It's nice to see how many performance records can be broken just by providing even better cooling to the CPU. Also, the additional airflow with active keyboard cooling helps a lot. The same concept is also available in this year's XMG EVO 15, XMG CORE 15 and XMG FUSION 15, as they all use the same new keyboard with separate cursor keys, 4-row numpad and subtle yet effective air intake. One small clarification (18:25): G-SYNC is also available when NVIDIA Advanced Optimus is enabled. NVIDIA is maintaining a whitelist of games that are allowed to automatically switch the laptop display to the dGPU upon launching the game. Also, regarding Linux support (21:30): TUXEDO is planning to launch this chassis under the name "TUXEDO Stellaris 16 Intel Gen6" in a few weeks, including liquid cooling and full Linux support - the profile switching button will work as well. Meanwhile, if anyone in the audience has *any questions about XMG NEO 16* or any other XMG product, *please reply directly to this comment!* Thank you for your feedback! // Tom
@lexzander45182 ай бұрын
Any chance you know if you're planning on an 18" model soon? Almost perfect (to my admittedly amateur eyes) except for the 16" size. I'm hoping for an immersive power house and the external liquid cooler strikes me as genius.
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
@@lexzander4518 We can for sure say that there will not be any 18" in XMG NEO series, or any 18" with liquid cooling support any time soon. Not this year and not next year either. // Tom
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
@@xmg_gg hi Tom, is the card reader exclisive to xmg? Mechrevo with same chassis doesn't have it
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
@@Asimowild It seems that Mechrevo has some exclusive chassis variants with various ports and features missing. // Tom
@ЕгорКазанков-б6р2 ай бұрын
When typing, the display lid wobbled. This doesn't happen on my Legion 7 from 2021, which I would like to replace with a modern model. I have two questions: 1) Is a 500-nit display planned for the XMG Neo 17? Does the display wobble on this model when typing? 2) Is the screen wobbling on the XMG Neo 16 a feature of this particular unit or of all released models?
@michaelwesten46242 ай бұрын
if it's so fast, how long does it take it to do a 100 m sprint?
@kispista_2 ай бұрын
About 60 decibels
@michaelwesten46242 ай бұрын
@@kispista_ in how many rgbs per watt?
@kispista_2 ай бұрын
@@michaelwesten4624 It can be as fast as 374 RGBs/Watt
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat2 ай бұрын
@@michaelwesten4624 256 lumen per gigabyte
@Jim-kk4ys2 ай бұрын
about 2 km each fps sir @@michaelwesten4624
@ShuriShoto2 ай бұрын
How does Jarrod's heart afford this hinge test on a 3000 dollar plus laptop
@TheIRSWillNeverCatchMe2 ай бұрын
Prob the last thing he does
@kiyoponnn2 ай бұрын
come on man, not this low tier joke which is easily countered
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
Good joke, but let me reply in earnest: XMG laptops at Jarrod's Tech are always loan units that will be returned to us at some point. If Jarrod would break the hinges with such a simple test, we would *thank him* for finding an issue early in the production cycle. It's actually quite common for reviewers to spot last-minute firmware or driver issues. Hardware issues usually get sorted out way earlier, before any samples are shipped to press. So, no concerns, hinge away! // Tom
@Enter-the-Meta2 ай бұрын
@@xmg_ggI had pretty much no opinion on you guys over at XMG, however after seeing your/the company’s write up on the Intel stability issues, then seeing your positive and candid interactions in the comments, I’m thoroughly impressed. Keep up the good work!
@Buntybill12 ай бұрын
I used the link to look at this laptop. It comes with 16gb ram and 4089 for $3,999. If you want 32gb ram and 4090 rtx it's over $5000
@castcuts-12 ай бұрын
The chassis design looks very legion inspired, maybe a bit too much. But the legion's are great, I love my 5 pro!
@jrwagh3332 ай бұрын
Did XMG get hold of some Legion chassis? 😂
@bdtwothree2 ай бұрын
That's what I'm thinking too but that's a plus for me since I'm a legion fan 😅. It looks good because of how minimalistic the design is. And also the back ports, damn I wish legion keep those back ports on their latest laptops. And the keyboard layout too, I'm so confused at first 😂.
@ezrapierce12332 ай бұрын
Now I can't unsee it 😅
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Looks alike but totally different. I took apart both of them. I have 4090 version
@mikeallensonntag2 ай бұрын
Looks like they do have access to the fan manufacturer.
@TerreosАй бұрын
I remember posting about the first gen watercooler for these laptops on notebook forums before it died and there were so many people that thought this would never catch on. Wish I can show them this now because this has come a long way and it very impressive. Maybe next year we can see some OLED or Mini LED screens. Maybe some upward firing speakers too. Not a deal breaker, but I’d love to see those changes. Otherwise this is pretty awesome.
@Peizxcv2 ай бұрын
Guess the company saved itself. Some Chinese industry watchers expected the ODM to go down because their products have been falling behind Lenovo, ASUS, Red Magic but this design really caught up with the leaders
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
They had 0 problems with market, they are growing fast.
@gdsl771382 ай бұрын
Im confused between buying yoga pro 9i and legion 7i What do you think is better for me I'm an engineering student I have graphic designing and simulation tasks I also want to play games and watch movies and tv series The system should be able to play next gen titles like gta 6 (future proof gaming) Which one should I get. And with what gpu and cpu
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
The on one the video definitely, legion is being smoked by any means by this new chassis
@KinofinityАй бұрын
All these RGB trend on most modern “gaming” pc components takes me back to the 2000’s and the Neon used in vehicles in Fast and the furious to need for speed unground 😂😅
@FoxxFire2 ай бұрын
I commented on last year's video how it didn't make sense to liquid cool the gpu only and not the cpu when the 4090 is much more efficient and easier to cool than that Intel chip. I'm so glad to see the improvements made this year. It feels like we're getting closer. I couldn't buy this for the display alone. It really should have a better screen. When you're paying so much for a laptop and need to pay, say, an extra $300 for a significantly better display, it is so worth it since that will be less than 10 percent of the price of the machine but be the thing you look at all the time (unless you're connected external of course). I also am not thrilled about the keyboard and trackpad shifted to the left, but so many other laptops do this that I suppose it can be forgiven. But honestly, is anyone asking for a number pad in exchange for having to use the keyboard and trackpad off center and awkwardly for the device's lifespan? Are accountants or gamers/creators buying this thing?
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Get a scar 16 miniled and install, bolt on upgrade.
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment this year and last year. 🙂According to our last survey, about 50% of users expect a number pad on 16" laptops and up. Some of them even use number pad keys for gaming in certain games, especially in the MMORPG, RTS and Simulation genres. About the screen: we understand that there is certainly a certain appeal to OLED screens, they also come with some downsides. While glossy screens certainly enjoy a newfound popularity, the amount of customers that tolerate glossy reflections on a laptop still seem to be in the minority, at least in our core market of Germany. OLED screens also commonly have a PWM dimming frequency of only 60Hz which may cause eyestrain, although some more recent screens have increased this frequency to e.g. 960 Hz. To compare, our IPS screens have no PWM flickering at all, they use DC dimming. Anyway, we are keeping an eye on this issue and see if we can source OLED screens or Mini-LED screens with good specs for reasonable prices in the future. Until then, we are aiming to have the best balance in our IPS-type screens in terms of price, weight, brightness, response time and resolution. // Tom
@FoxxFire2 ай бұрын
@@xmg_gg Wow, what an awesome response! I do understand the importance of margins with electronics. Something that is costing you $10 more results in you having to price the computer an extra $40, for example, in order to remain profitable. And sourcing different displays to give customers an option, especially when you are not buying them in a huge quantity, is quite expensive. Also, gamers may not care much about color accuracy. However, if you were able to pull off a display with a higher color gamut, particularly close to 100 percent coverage of P3, it would be so much more appealing. (The last thing I'll mention is the ports - having a usb c port running at usb 3.2 gen 1 is not acceptable in a laptop of this price. If the usb a port runs at that speed, it would be unfortunate, but okay. But that usb c port really needs to be 10gb/s, at least.) Have a great night, Tom, and thanks again for your thoughtful response.
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
@@FoxxFire Good morning and thank you for your feedback! // Tom
@TobiasHamАй бұрын
I am a video editor, coder and gamer who hates glossy displays. IPS and numpad was a must for me. Also I really don't need more brightness as I feel most are already straining my eyes. Wanted a numpad so the razor dropped out. So I ordered this one 2 weeks ago.
@ronmc16772 ай бұрын
dude I love your presentations about my favorite gadgets but just maybe don't try to make it too structured... maybe then you'd sound a whole lot more awesome and be super interesting to listen to and watch as well. just imagine that it's your best friend sitting behind the camera and imagine yourself being super excited to tell them about the latest and greatest in technology! Cheers man! I really love your take on the latest gadgets! Love from India
@Z0208522 ай бұрын
I guess your eyes and brain might not notice the performance, but your ears will.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Especially of you get fast hynix ram and overclock it to at least 6000 (7000 is possible too)
@misterringer2 ай бұрын
Man, even on air it's still wrecking the Scar 18. You'd really think they'd do a better job with cooling in such a big platform.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
They decided to make whistling coolers all over laptop in order to show "we have moar coolars, we are beter!! Buy asas you are true playar!" P.s. 13980hx 4090 scar 18 user in the past Now having this mechrevo 14900hx 4090 with #1 world record on all laptop intels in xtu2😂
@RipeStories2 ай бұрын
Sorry, did I get this right? Without any tweaking in bios etc. this thing gets almost the same performance in the balanced (with liquid cooling) 36-38decibel mode as in the 55decibel maxed out sh1t mode? This is the most impressive, quietest performance, I have ever seen in a laptop.
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
You got this right. // Tom
@chayze30092 ай бұрын
I just noticed 3:38: 1.23cm touchpad length seems a bit... tiny 🙃
@JarrodsTech2 ай бұрын
oops
@MichaelK-lz7jk2 ай бұрын
Have the 17“ with watercooling and never want back to only fan cooling notebook. Compared with Titan or Scar it’s complete quiet.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
17" is good but this yaoshi generation is just a brain explode
@MichaelK-lz7jk2 ай бұрын
@@Asimowild what is yaoshi generation? Sry, I’m not native speaker, never heard this an google translate don’t know that
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelK-lz7jk yaoshi is this laptop on video. It has metal body.
@MichaelK-lz7jk2 ай бұрын
@@Asimowild My Neo 17 has full Aluminium body, Plastic is in this days a No-Go for Premium Notebooks.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelK-lz7jk neo 17 is still not yaoshi. Now yaoshi only has 16". Soon 17 probably too
@Hisma012 ай бұрын
I will NEVER own another tong fang laptop again. The screen had horrible backlight bleed, the keyboard buttons would randomly start sticking and I had to replace the keyboard TWICE over a 2 year period. But the worst problem of all, the power connector came loose and was unable to charge! I literally had to just dump the laptop, it's sitting in my closet collecting dust rn (a eluktronics max 17 laptop w/ a 3070) because I simply got tired of constantly servicing it, and to fix the charging problem would require an entire motherboard replacement. I'm not anti-Chinese tech because I own a lenovo legion laptop and absolutely love it. But these tong fang generic chassis laptops have terrible build quality, despite the great specsheets.
@Pomacanthidae2 ай бұрын
honestly these kinds of laptops are more desktop replacements. you're supposed to use an external display, keyboard, and mouse with them and treat them as a mini pc with in built ups more than anything.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Lol replacing charging socket is a job for any good solderer for 50 bucks.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
By the way this one is just totally new level. Older 17" are quite not durable and require being very caring to them, yes. But they were cheeap as hell
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
Can't comment here except that we never carried the chassis of your "MAX 17" (ID-P). We had samples but didn't go forward with them. The keyboard in this series was a unique SKU that wasn't used on any other models except "MAX 15" (ID-Y) which we didn't carry either. Keyboard damage may come with overheating - those chassis were very slim. Very slim models are especially prone to potential airflow issues when heatsinks clog up with dust. Loose power socket might be an after-effect of mechanical damage at some point. The power sockets are pretty much identical across all Uniwill/TongFang models, and we usually don't have many cases of them coming loose - neither within nor after warranty. On overage, they are more robust than USB-C charging ports. At any rate, please check with your system vendor if there are still any avenues of repair. For what its worth, the build quality of one particular product series (here: ID-Y and ID-P) may not apply identically to other series of the same ODM. // Tom
@Russiangamerpro20212 ай бұрын
I feel like they had to keep everything safe and protected and strong because if you put something and make it more look like it’s cheap build it can damage stuff inside that’s what I think. Maybe that’s why they had to keep it secure for the liquid cooler.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Wut
@Russiangamerpro20212 ай бұрын
@@Asimowild because if they did make something cheaper build and there’s still liquid cooler in there you can probably damage the liquid cooler and cause a leak that’s what I think so maybe that’s why you had to keep your laptop look like it’s being proper quality because if you don’t do that, it’s gonna cause a lot of problems
@TheNaitsyrk2 ай бұрын
Well, its not surprising that when its got liquid boost and liquid metal. If added to other laptops (just LM) those results would be much closer together.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
The cooling system is astonishing even without water circuit
@TheNaitsyrk2 ай бұрын
@@Asimowild Check Titan GT77HX V13 it's bigger. The only difference is LM
@knightlko2 ай бұрын
Only complaint for Eluktronics version is it software. Problem setting fan curve for laptop/water cooler, its limited imo.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Not any more.
@knightlkoАй бұрын
@@Asimowild ? i checked their site they dont have an updated version.......is it for the 14gen intel only? ive got the 13gen you cant manually adjust the fan curve while using water cooling.....weird way to set up the software...
@unionofslavstanrepublics23172 ай бұрын
The screen not being MiniLED or OLED is a shame, hopefully this isn't the case next year.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Buy one from scar g16 and install, it is 100% compatible
@miapocalypse3364Ай бұрын
i had a liquid metal cooled laptop before, chill temps, but a lot of stress when it comes to changing the LM, as the technicians at the repairs shops here have no idea what they are doing, it was extremely stressful changing it myself on a $2000+ laptop, switched to a newer laptop that uses PTM, much more comfortable changing the paste/pads and temps are just as good
@XieRH19882 ай бұрын
One thing about the light customisation that really annoyed me about tongfang models (and has not been fixed from what I see in this video) is that you don't have true full RGB customisability, because you're locked to only choosing the 100% saturation values of every hue from red to purple on the spectrum I found out about this when I got an tongfang laptop from aftershock and to my surprise couldnt even set my keyboard colour to white.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
You can change the leds per key on this model
@kimstraatАй бұрын
Ended up buying this from Aftershock in Melbourne over the weekend. Fantastic computer, no regrets! Just wish they had the watercooler in stock so the laptop wasnt so loud! Any ideas on where I can buy the watercooler overseas?
@shuvamskyАй бұрын
Although the difference might appear small at first, the liquid cooler one will remain consistent after a year or two.
@Kadoom11312 ай бұрын
Never gonna buy an Eluktronics laptop again . In 1,5 years i think i encountered every problem possible with this laptop. Also , i think it s impressive that Strix 17 with 7945HX and 4090 still leads the performance tests in almost every category while being much cheaper and much lighter and portable. You are one of the few channels that include that Strix 17 in the tests , a lot of sponsored videos don t put it in the benchmarks because of how well it performs and makes the 2024 flagships look silly .
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
This chassis is just another universe man. 7945hx leads only in cyberpunk and only while 720p :D
@Kadoom11312 ай бұрын
@@Asimowild I have a good friend who s a technician and believe me , those Eluktronics laptops are made to break . Yeah , it leads only in cyberpunk and in the rest of the tests it s pretty close. There s actually a guy if you look it up who modded it and got a 27k timespy score . I would definitely go with the Strix 17 considering much lower price , huge potential and the fact that it s AMD based . As we all know , Intel got some serious problems right now . If i m buying a laptop i plan to use 100 % of the processor , i will not pay the laptop then disable turbo boost to avoid processor failure and use only 60% of laptop's power. If you disable turbo boost on this specific laptop you are gonna get under 60% of the scores Jarrod got in those benchmarks and tests.
@trucker2b2 ай бұрын
About time that electrics mech16 gets a review
@BigNatureTrucking7 сағат бұрын
I just replaced my asus strix g16 with a 4080 and 13gen i9 With the hydroc with a 4090 and 14thgen i9 also included the water cooler. This is a no bs review. This is the fastest most powerful laptop i have ever used. And with the water cooler it is super quiet. The asus sounds like a helicopter is taking off and the thermals kinda suck after a while. The hydroc is very plain looking but well built. The screen to me looks really good. The asus i have has a mini led so its very punchy. But i can deal with the hydroc just fine. My recommendation if you can afford it. Then get it!! Its a freaking beast
@MSR932 ай бұрын
XMG Neo 16 is a beast. but considering the brand is from Germany, i don't think the brand has been established in other countries. always consider the customer support when buying your machine.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Xmg are just enthusiasts selling tongfang chassis. Actual brand is mechrevo (owned by tongfang)
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Xmg is using tongfang chassis here.
@Antifurrygovernment-vv8lb2 ай бұрын
yo get this guy to 3M subs bro he gotta be the best tech reviews on youtube
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
The time is the limit
@ROCCATEER922 ай бұрын
The 17 inch version (Neo 17) has the option for a mechanical keybord. The lack of really good screen options is the biggest reason why (as a German) still don't buy any laptops from XMG. In 2025 I will be in the market for a new gaming laptop and so far, I'm most curious about the next generation of Lenovos Legion 7 Pro.
@MichaelK-lz7jk2 ай бұрын
Hatte die Mechanische getestet, musste ich zurückschicken. Nichts gegen ein bisschen klicken, aber das Teil war so laut, das ich nun die normale habe. Würde die keinesfalls weiterempfehlen, nichtmal wenn ich NC Kopfhörer nutzen würde.
@ROCCATEER922 ай бұрын
@@MichaelK-lz7jk Danke für den Erfahrungsbericht. Ich sitze aktuell an einem Aorus-Laptop mit mech. Tastatur. Einen Vergleich mit anderen habe ich leider nicht.
@MichaelK-lz7jk2 ай бұрын
@@ROCCATEER92 Es gibt einen Tester vom Neo 17 (13900hx) der nimmt die extra auf damit man das besser einschätzen kann, er hatte die auch für recht laut empfunden. Da ich nun mit Wasserkühlung und den richtigen Settings ein praktisch lautloses System habe, fällt das klicken schon sehr auf. Wenn man ein Notebook hat, bei dem die Lüfter schon gut hörbar sind, nimmt man es vermutlich anders wahr.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Get a miniled from asus g16, bolt on mod.
@ROCCATEER922 ай бұрын
@@MichaelK-lz7jk Ich hab das Video gefunden (von mpoxDE). Die mech. Tastatur des Neo 17 ist ja wirklich übel laut. Da kann ich mit der mech. Tastatur meines 17G (2020) wirklich weiterhin zufrieden sein.
@davitdavid71652 ай бұрын
By the time you are relying on external water coolers i think you should make an egpu (or make it removable kinda like framework). I feel like a lot of people would like having a thin, normal laptop for everyday use and a relatively compact gpu ay home, which they can also put in the bag when needed.
@nicolaspaglione2 ай бұрын
Nvidia says no
@ucle99552 ай бұрын
the problem with eGPU is we don't have enough bandwidth to feed the graphics card (especially the high-end ones). Best thing we got now is Thunderbolt 4/USB 4.0 with 40Gbps, which is much lower than PCIe gen 4 x16 on desktop mainboards (which has maximum bandwidth of 256Gbps). Even Thunderbolt 5 (which is technically available now, but will still be rare for next 1-2 years) only has 80Gbps (and a boost mode of 120Gbps)
@davitdavid71652 ай бұрын
@@ucle9955 I know, but i still like the idea too much to give it up. Also you could do a framework and have free pcie slots dedicated, sidestepping the issue. Use a riser cable and bam!
@davitdavid71652 ай бұрын
@@nicolaspaglione but intel has a stake in making it work.
@nicolaspaglione2 ай бұрын
@@davitdavid7165 amd has allowed it and that’s a weak ass gpu
@7lllll2 ай бұрын
this is very impressive, i do think this is the best laptop for the rtx40/rx7000 generation. it's a late release and one is better off waiting for the next generation, and the raptor lake cpu has stability concerns, but this design can definitely transfer to the next generation too
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
It actually is, i can confirm. I own one and did #1 record on cpu power of all intel laptops (hwbot xtu2 rating)
@shrey5222 ай бұрын
Is it safe to buy 14900HX? I have seen core VIDs going above 1.4v and 1.5v on i7 and i9's.
@federicocatelli87852 ай бұрын
Looking for troubles.....get a Ryzen or Mac (if you are not into gaming)
@Noname-iq1gz2 ай бұрын
Why would you get an intel cpu? Go for amd
@Kadoom11312 ай бұрын
Definitely no . That s why all flagships with 7945hx''s are out of stock .
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
100% Safe if you disable turbo boost 3.0 (keep the 2.0) and undervolt. You will even get slight multicore boost :)
@lharsay2 ай бұрын
The 13900H should be a safe pick due to being based on the 6+8 core Raptor Lake H chip instead of the 8+16. Yes, the 8+16 core Raptor Lake HX chips are concerning, on the other hand they still operate at lower voltages compared to desktop which might prevent damage.
@teddym2808Ай бұрын
No Gen 2 ports is beyond a deal killer and outrageous.
@gogogogogogogogogogog92 ай бұрын
oh my kidney
@Kingdanieltj2 ай бұрын
Alright jarrod videos over its time to hand over the laptop to me now, you know im your faviroute viewer😅
@Peizxcv2 ай бұрын
Are they using an old Lenovo Legion 5 Pro mold? It looks so much like the superior Lenovo
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Yeah they were inspired by legion good points
@sp639022 ай бұрын
This laptop reminds me a lot of the Lenovo’s Legion Pro 7 models. The keyboard and light bar on the front and the materials look similar.
@jlb46852 ай бұрын
yeah only this laptop doesn't use cheap plastic like the Legions. Source: I own a Legion 7 Pro.
@goldmastersimulations2 ай бұрын
This is basically Legion 7i Gen 7 on steroids.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
All true as guys above say.
@mojtaba_behnam2 ай бұрын
Hello Why don't you mention whether the display is HDR or not in any of the reviews?! Is it doesn't matter?
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Forget hdr in displays less than 500 nit. You need miniled. Good news are that you can buy one from scar g16 and put here, 100% bolt on mod
@mojtaba_behnam2 ай бұрын
@Asimowild But, it is better to have HDR than not to have it even on 500 nits
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
@@mojtaba_behnam true yet almost unnoticable
@vik1ng3132 ай бұрын
HDR with
@mojtaba_behnam2 ай бұрын
@vik1ng313 In some games like God of war 2018 By 500 nits its not bad honestly
@noshut2 ай бұрын
I always leave a few drops behind when disconnecting and have to wipe up if you know what I mean
@catzillafirefox2 ай бұрын
2:38 So that explains why this laptop has a striking similarity to the Aftershock Rift 16
@g.j.28572 ай бұрын
Why is not Jarrod talking about Intel instability issues? Which laptops are affected? I saw 13700HX and below are safe due to low Wattage and Voltage
@JarrodsTech2 ай бұрын
I don't have anything to say about it until Intel acknowledges it with some real info. Anything else is kind of guess work or speculation and I don't want to be a contributor to fearmongering without solutions. That said, XMG have probably provided the best details so far: www.xmg.gg/en/news-update-intel-core-cpus-laptops-stability/
@g.j.28572 ай бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Sounds fair. I guess Reddit has gotten me with the panic. I believe you would be among the first to experience instability issues with all these tests after a year and a half. Thank you for the reply.
@Alex_Martz17 күн бұрын
Is this the same as the Acer Helios 16?
@FlawlessEntropy28 күн бұрын
The 330w is not enough for the full speck 4090 and i9, the legion 7 discharged the battery while under heavy load.
@swasho29392 ай бұрын
im still rocking my legion 5 pro 2021 with a 3070 ... looks like the laptop game has changed with intel taking over the laptop department (opposite of desktop now). do these 14900HX chips have issues like the 14900k desktop cpus are having right now?
@Xpiti2 ай бұрын
No
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Basically not, but bertter disavle turbo boost 3.0 (keep 2.0) and undervolt cpu a little. I bet will be safe for 10 years
@IkurFPVАй бұрын
when you recording microphone and camera, do you use nvidia broadcast app with it? gg, nice machine and good video, thx
@bdtwothree2 ай бұрын
Jarrod does that mean the 4050, 4060 and 4070 does not have a Water Cooling? Only Air Cooling? Great vid again btw
@Peshyy2 ай бұрын
Yes, as mentioned at 8:44
@MichaelK-lz7jk2 ай бұрын
Yes, but you can buy the 2023 version with Watercooling from XMG.
@bdtwothree2 ай бұрын
@@MichaelK-lz7jk wait, so you can still have water cooling but with the previous water cooler?
@MichaelK-lz7jk2 ай бұрын
@@bdtwothree The cooler is the same, but new waterhose, it’s magnetic only without this metal piece.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Ine doesnt need to water cool 406 or 4070 they consume 115w undervolted at max load
@miklaus28732 күн бұрын
Jarrod, I've seen your database with 23.000 timyspy xmg neo 16 e24 14900hx 4090 with liquid cooling, was it at stock? Could it reach 24.000 with Overclock GPU, Undervolt CPU, new RAM at 6400mhz cl30 and xmg oasis mk2 at max speed, fans at max speed, laptop stand with fans, repaste liquid metal conductonaut and optimized nvcp settings? Was that 23.000 result all at stock just with liquid cooling? It's way higher than all notebooks with 4090 and more than a desktop with a 4070 super and 14900k. And can it reach 25.000 adding a shunt mod?
@BreeHorsfall2 ай бұрын
Ro me, this looks like the perfect machine for those companies that need to outfit on-site engineers/designers. Cuz the cpu is so powerful.
@wheeler9161Ай бұрын
Just want to note, you dont want to play rdr2 at 120hz, Weird things happen, like when you get off your horse you immediately fall down. I stick to 60 frames and it plays very well.
@ph4nt0k3n2 ай бұрын
Could you maybe also review the other laptops from xmgs lineup? I think they are massively under-represented in the yt techspace...
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
They are not anywhere close as cool as this one
@pixelpusher1393Ай бұрын
Very interesting! Will the Oasis MkII water cooling system also be made available for the RTX4060 and 4070 variants of this laptop?
@xmg_ggАй бұрын
No, but it is still available for XMG NEO 17 (E23) with RTX 4060/4070. // Tom
@pixelpusher1393Ай бұрын
@@xmg_gg Thanks, just checked availability and pricing in Europe. The 13900HX is only slightly less performant than the 14900HX. Need it for content creation, and it should be plenty. With an RTX4070, 64GB RAM and Oasis II it´s around 2800€. This looks like a very interesting alternative to "normal" gaming laptops. Only downside is the display not reaching quite the brightness of the 2024 Neo 16. Then again, I´d be working with an external graphics tablet as my main display anyway.
@TheJefffanhardy8 күн бұрын
Yoo Jarred. Will you cover the Acer Helios Neo 14?
@destroyer4134Ай бұрын
How would this compare to the Lenovo Legion 9i Gen 9? I am torn between the two and I don't know which to buy.
@JarrodsTechАй бұрын
I think it should be in some of the benchmark graphs, if I didn't include it you can check our Legion 9i video and compare results.
@MohammedS292 ай бұрын
Hi there can you please suggest me some good cooling pads for my Acer predator helios neo 16 2023 model Also can you please suggest both budget and expensive ones Do you think it is necessary for the laptop?
@parshangiahi47372 ай бұрын
Can we get a xmg core 15 (M24) review too?!
@igorbukovy4313Ай бұрын
When U pressed your finger on the touchpad, small gap appeared in the lower right corner.
@cristopherlimas20742 ай бұрын
Jarrod what’s the best laptop I can get for gaming in terms of performance for $1300 budget
@kimstraatАй бұрын
Question - does it matter if you use water or coolant in the water cooler?
@TechGamesAU2 ай бұрын
Do we know if the water cooler will be supported on future models? I wouldn’t want to buy it if it’s only ever used for this one laptop
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
I think they will stick with this one. Diy is easy on water cooling here, tho
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
Since introduction in 2022, XMG OASIS has been kept compatible over a number of generations, thanks to the modular pair of tubes. A current-gen XMG OASIS Mk2 is still compatible and supported with the first XMG NEO 15 (E22) with water cooling from early 2022. // Tom
@TechGamesAU2 ай бұрын
@@xmg_gg thank you
@klakkalakka67042 ай бұрын
Sounds like they listened to your previous critique
@glitchy84292 ай бұрын
Can you please look into intel failure in laptops. Intel is trying to act like laptops aren’t degrading, but they are. TVB is pushing these 13th and 14th gen intel machines to 1.55v at 5.6ghz in even the most minor loads. Those numbers are okay for a desktop, but are absolutely insane for a laptop. I’ve returned the asus g814jz three times with issues of blue screen out of video memory errors and stuttering in games. I’ve had the one I have now for about 9 months and haven’t had any blue screens, but with these numbers I fear it’s only a matter of time. Even on this laptop I can’t load D4 with settings turned all the way down and frames capped at 60fps without hwinfo lighting up like a Christmas tree with all the thermal throttling… dude it’s so bad and IDK why no one’s talking about it.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Lock 2 "lucky" cores to 5.5 and you're ok. Undervolt will help too
@GreyVWilk2 ай бұрын
I love your content! I've been watching a lot of your videos and I'd love to have your opinion on what laptop I should get for a budget of around 1500 euro. I need it for university, gaming, programming. I was really considering the Legion 5 pro especially since its on sale right now. Any recommendations?
@killuazoldyck54682 ай бұрын
Hi Mr. Jarrod, do you happen to find any laptop with coil whine? Is it normal?
@hamza440442 ай бұрын
i wonder if there is a way to get the gpu to boost over 175 watts, or give more power to the cpu while under load, since there is so much thermal headroom with the liquid cooler for me, the liquid cooler seems pointless since the laptop has the same total power budget as other air cooled laptop
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
175w+ is possible with shunt mod but you lose warranty. 4090 will go up to 30% increase with shunt mod. Water cooler gives the headroom for oc
@hamza440442 ай бұрын
@@Asimowild i dont know if the 330W power adapter would be enough for 30% increase, and can the laptop power circuit handle that ? would've been nice if increased power limit with the liquid cooler was supported out of the box.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
@@hamza44044 it can handle that. Max i seen 450w peak from wall socket.
@MichaelK-lz7jk2 ай бұрын
30%, really? Way over 30.000 Points in Timespy?
@JustLikeVita14 күн бұрын
Please help me, cant decide. This XMG or Legion pro 7i? Thanks
@dcyt_2 ай бұрын
Thanks for testing Linux!
@llobell862 ай бұрын
Are you going to try the Asus Zenbook with the latest AMD APU?
@shikikanaz46242 ай бұрын
Hey jarrod. Would the strix advantage edition still be good in 2024?
@teamkengi12142 ай бұрын
Hi. What cheaper 4090 laptops you would recommend. Thanks
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
4090 is even not put to its max due to 175w limit.. and you want to get a cheaper 4090 laptop where situation is much worse?) you like tha fancy 4090 label, do you? Get decent 4080
@dankprogrammingmemes78072 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who noticed that sick Insomnium T-Shirt?
@OperatorPuskiАй бұрын
Are any gaming laptops benchmark tested for VR use? A quest 3 could plug into USB-c with the link cable
@xmg_ggАй бұрын
We have many customers who use VR headsets with our laptops, including XMG NEO. There are good, passive adapters from USB-C/DP1.4 (aka Thunderbolt on the NVIDIA dGPU) to Full-Size DP1.4. Find the FAQ article "Which XMG laptops are compatible with VR headsets?" on our website. // Tom
@faridahyasmin76602 ай бұрын
This or asus rog strix or asus zephyrus? Mostly for gaming but also to be able to use it for everything else a laptop can offer. And what GPU and TGP should I look for?
@arighnogupta53952 ай бұрын
heyy When do u think laptop companies like razer, XMG and euktronics plan on entering the indian laptop market
@zenpy_2 ай бұрын
How will he know?💀💀
@Trinket_Master20 күн бұрын
I bought a fusion 15 in 2019 for over 2.5k euro and regret it. The performance is still solid even now. But the screen has just become more and more of an issue as time went on, i cant ignore anymore how bad an lcd looks towards literally any other screen tech
@vladimirackermann61822 ай бұрын
Can you please do direct comparsion of the speaker with simliar sized mac books in the future?
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
У меня такой, мак чуть получше, колонки у этого отличные, басят тоже недурно.
@RobloxianX2 ай бұрын
All performance but no show. Honestly if this was just a slab for $2000 that’d be great so I can just give it an external monitor and keyboard
@aymanelzain12712 ай бұрын
Now we need the real RTX 4090 desktop on laptops, the liquid cooler is nice for desktop replacement laptops.
@-_--le3zk2 ай бұрын
While this laptop is absolutely awesome in thermals, there is absolutely no way it is gonna run a desktop 4090 at full power, as the tdp is around 400 or 450 watts, plus you will need a ridiculously big charger, which i think counterfeits the point of laptop being portable.
@aymanelzain12712 ай бұрын
@@-_--le3zk The full power it will be impossible to cold , but it can use the same die and reduce the power to like 225 watte , and it will be more efficient than the desktop one
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: first 50% of gpu power attributes of 80% performance. Desktop 4090 eats 500w, laptop 175w. Desktop is only 50% ahead on performance. No point in desktop gpu in laptop at all.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
@@aymanelzain1271it will not
@lharsay2 ай бұрын
A 600mm^2 die is simply too large for laptops.
@vncube12 ай бұрын
It's what the Legion 9i should've been.
@chhenghunrfs90562 ай бұрын
Can you compare the RTX 3050 desktop to the RTX 4050 laptop gpu?
@Amber574992 ай бұрын
How would you compare the air cooling to the Legion Pro 7i (13900HX 4090)? Geez, I'm thinking of replacing it already...
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
This one is better than legion for sure.
@kraosdadafusfus80342 ай бұрын
+All that you said - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - It has a Raptor Lake CPU and is therefore a ticking time bomb.
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Disable intel turbo boost 3.0 and undervolt, boom, you are safe for 10 years
@Roswell01Area51Ай бұрын
MSI Titan 18 HX A14V has similar specs and Wi-Fi 7.
@lolol50735Ай бұрын
why stay at 175w with the water cooler? its excesive
@Gabriel2.02 ай бұрын
no oled?
@Asimowild2 ай бұрын
Grab miniled from g16 and install. Bolt on mod
@blakvein29 күн бұрын
What about unlocking gpu power limit here?
@g.42792 ай бұрын
Why does every single XMG laptop with premium pricing have trash screens?
@MichaelK-lz7jk2 ай бұрын
because the screens are being bought up by the big players and there are none left for the small companies.
@fompt12 ай бұрын
what makes it special - I know because I had neo 17 e23: QA is non existant, mine broke 6 times in 12 months, once it was replaced by a new one, it was delivered with both antennas disconnected from the wifi/bt card - I had to open it and assemble myself to avoid 2 weeks of traveling to the manufacturer, case quality is poor , the last malfunction was broken screen just like that. I know people who had more luck, but this is luck, gamble, nothing else. I have to say that xmg took the responibility and acknowledged all that and I did get a refund.
@xmg_gg2 ай бұрын
Sorry for your experience. I don't know your specific case details (what exactly broke 6 times?), but at least the Wi-Fi antennas not being connected sounds like a clear-cut case of human error on our side. Again, sorry for the negative experience - I hope you can try once more again with a future model. // Tom
@fractalelf7760Ай бұрын
But…. What is support like?
@rayraylsx1788Ай бұрын
Dumb question but is a 4080/4090 laptop much better as opposed to a ps5 with a oled c2 at a constant 120 fps? Kind of want a oled laptop but not sure what to lean towards too. That Asus scar is really tempting!
@miklaus28732 күн бұрын
For records and maximum performance in liquid and Overclock and rams and Undervolt is better neo 16 e24 or hydroc 16 eluktronics?