Lenovo Legion 7i vs ASUS Zephyrus G16 - Best Premium 16” Gaming Laptop?

[@JarrodsTech]

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[@ahmetcemalyasar6975]

Can you review the ASUS TUF Gaming a16?

[@wongwaras356]

Please make a list of laptops with best thermals on your website

[@ahmetcemalyasar6975]

@@wongwaras356 Thermals don't matter much, you cant hit thermal limits everyday and your laptop would be fine until its considered retro. Noise, comfort(temps where you touch the computer), and CPU + GPU cooling limit is what matters.

[@wongwaras356]

@@ahmetcemalyasar6975 Actually it matters because some people reported that their laptops would shut off on its own when gaming because of heat.

[@mohmmedboss5903]

I really love you’re videos but I want to know something I’m actually leaning towards legion 7i but I want something in the same price 1850$ but has rtx 4080 can you pls give me some good laptops with intel 14900hx and 32 gigabyte ram because after this year I will go to university

[@swiftshinobi8337]

The most demanded laptop comparison rn in the gaming laptop community, thank you Jarrod for this.

[@georgigeorgiev6407]

I had an unbelievable opportunity to purchase the new G16 with an AMD Ryzen AI HX 370, 4070, and 32GB of RAM only for $1,232. The retailer in Bulgaria mistakenly changed the price, and all units sold out in a day. I still can't believe it happened, but I saved more than 50% on this laptop. It's definitely the deal of the year for me! 🎉

[@thaihungphan7255]

Bro what i bought my g14 16gb 4060 for 1450 😕

[@nishant5655]

​@@thaihungphan7255expensive as f

[@Korixon.]

I wish I could find deals like that lol

[@oluwatimileyinadeyemi6757]

g16 with an amd chip?

[@thaihungphan7255]

@@oluwatimileyinadeyemi6757 those sell for 3000$ with 4080 in my country

[@1992arri]

Im owning the G16 with 32GB RAM and the 4070 for a couple of months now! Working and gaming on it. Using it on battery for browsing and watching video is just aweome. 7 hours with a 75% max charge enabled. I love this machine :) Thnx for the video

[@permanno4104]

Bro why do you use a 4070 for watching videos 😭

[@1992arri]

@@permanno4104 because im also working and gaming on it? Like I said ;-)

[@petrm2234]

@@permanno4104 he uses his laptop

[@faghihimohammad]

Ordered mine some days again, will be delivered tomorrow 😊

[@davidkennethnoronha1622]

@@permanno4104 He literally said he games and works.

[@darsh2209]

I'd still pick the G16 for the oled screen and incredible speakers and battery life. These things are very rare in a gaming laptop

[@MA-jz4yc]

I'd pick the G16 for the screen alone. I'm confused why Lenovo offer the oled on their 14 inch legion but not their 16 inch. The difference between OLED and IPS is night and day.

[@fidelisitor8953]

The OLED is enough of a reason to pick the g16 over the legion. The fact that it's thinner, lighter, has better battery life, better speakers, etc just makes it even more appealing than the legion.

[@evansafrifa6396]

@@MA-jz4yc am okay with IPS cuz OLED longevity is questionable

[@justsam100]

​@@evansafrifa6396better middleground would be the mini-LEDs on other asus models. They look way better than regular ips, are more durable than OLED, and the brightness for HDR is gaming is actually almost best in class (for the 2024 models with more dimming zones).

[@davitdavid7165]

@@darsh2209 the legion's screen is brighter and honestly has no flaws. There is even a higher res version. Cool tech is nice, but useless

[@Vaxovillion]

Owned a couple legion laptops over the last few years and I've been very happy with how they hold up over time, I think the surprising thing is how good the support is if you need it, they got people over to fix an issue in just a couple days.

[@itsleviathan0142]

give me an old laptop you don't use😭🙏

[@Vaxovillion]

@@itsleviathan0142 heh I actually just gave my nephew my old legion when I got the Intel 13th Gen and 4090 one on sale at microcenter a couple weeks ago.

[@Matterahfact]

@@itsleviathan0142 leech

[@XDGoose41]

As someone about to go to uni, all I really want is the most sleek portable gaming experience possible, until I save for a dedicated pc. The g16 just ticks all the boxes for me, but the 7i def looks appealing too. Great vid as always!

[@JesseProwisor]

I wanted one laptop that could handle the work side and be decent enough for AAA gaming. I got the G16 (turned off the lid animation). I would have leaned to the Lenovo if the battery life was closer... Thanks for another great review!!

[@davitdavid7165]

As a student I will say that you don't need a big screen on the go. Getting any 14 inch option and docking it when home is probably best. Touchscreens are also a must in collage, if you have the money for it the ideal setup is some sort of 2 in 1 paired with an egpu or a mini PC for home use. You may even get good milage out of the igpu if you turn down the settings. Unless you really like the idea of going to other people's dorms and common areas to game or the major requires GPU performance on the go don't waste money on the g16

[@xXlURMOMlXx]

​@@davitdavid7165yeah if you like digital notes touchscreen is a must

[@XDGoose41]

@@davitdavid7165 at the moment I'm looking to have an ipad for all touchscreen related stuff, for note taking etc, as the course i'm gonna do doesn't really need a touchscreen outside of note taking. My plan is to use my laptop as a desktop until I save for an actual gaming pc, and the bigger screen size is due to the 14inch laptops costing more for less performance in australia which is crazy lol, and also a little bigger screen would be better for reading text etc. Thanks for the tips though!

[@Felpin04]

I got the m16 2023 rtx4070 for around 1000$ for med school and to play some games. I use it almost all day and easily carry it from home to uni. It's almost perfect and still performs better than the 7i and the g16 at the games tested on the video

[@Siddhugoge]

I got Legion 5 pro , like 4 years ago ...still going real strong . Lenovo is the beast in the market right now .

[@firefly9838]

I would get one but I hate the number pad...

[@noobmeister6652]

@@firefly9838 bro just use an external kb

[@lbenegas]

Same here. Legion 7 2021 with amd. 5800h, and there is nothing this beast cant handle. Legions are workhorses!

[@ChrisShin-jb9xq]

That's reassuring! I'm considering buying a Legion pro 5i!

[@SirMbenchodewala]

​@firefly9838 lol i got it because of the number pad

[@LaptopDealsEU]

Prices of these laptops exceed €2,000 in Europe 😭

[@automata157]

It's about to be worse

[@yianovich]

3000*

[@thenextguy]

Why are they so expensive?

[@automata157]

@@thenextguy because Europe 😂

[@EDMINGREVIEWS]

I hate seeing all these American prices and then looking at the prices here in Europe and being 💀

[@boltez6507]

15:40 Damn the zephyrus mic is too good,it almost matched the mic quality of your primary.

[@JymLacs]

I was also surprised by this. Awesome mic from the Asus🎉

[@ALmaN11223344]

Yeah...looks like Lenovo is still selling tunnel mics from 2004 on premium priced laptops of dubious build quality that still weigh as much as a stack of bricks despite it all.

[@55rz55]

I'd choose lenovo so I can avoid the hassle of ASUS's ridiculous warranty process and so I don't pay double what I bought it for when claiming a warranty.

[@lbanana2003]

Tell me about it..

[@kyleezmirly9086]

Coming from a macbook air m1, I'm definitely leaning toward the G16 for the design and battery life, though the Legion looks great too. My only problem is that I really want a laptop with a 4080 or 4090, but it's harder to find reviews and results with these upper-tier graphics. I'm particularly interested in how they affect the excellent battery life of the G16...

[@rfitzpatrick723]

From what I’ve heard battery is about the same on the G16 4080 and 4090. Also the 4090 on sale at best buy if you state side. I’m strongly considering getting it myself.

[@RCChan-rx4wn]

G16 4080.. very happy with the design, build quality and overall performance

[@Bingusbinguini]

hey there. How are the temps?

[@Dragonson575]

G16 with AMD Jarrod. That's the one we care about.

[@fooboomoo]

agreed, but the non-upgradable ram turned me off

[@rolasleyva8602]

@@fooboomoo also it's more expensive than the Intel version

[@firefly9838]

That one doesn't have a vapor chamber sadly

[@J.Wick.]

For the past 5yrs or so, it's always been down to these 2 for me. I've always went with the Legion (2x). But that's not taking anything away from the Asus. You will rarely make a wrong choice between these 2.

[@cosek]

Got the legion with 4060 i7 for 1500$.... It was the best decision of my life

[@ms9001]

ryzen 9 7945HX and 4070 for $1356 USD legion pro 5

[@roronoazero814]

Wait for 3years

[@SMGJohn]

1500 dollars for a laptop with a CPU thats gonna rust itself into oblivion in 1 year, LOL

[@aryanchauhan4262]

@@ms9001where is this deal?

[@francisugorji757]

@@SMGJohnrust? Could you elaborate please

[@SethTaylor9]

I got the Legion 7 with 32gb ram , i9, and 4070, and its amazing. Lenovo was running a sale and I got it for about 1550

[@duncan359]

You don't think the kb is too hot on the right when gaming? I have the same one and I hate using it for longer than 45 mins if I'm in a game where I type in chat.

[@carlosleon6069]

Have the legion go, that thing overheats like crazy even with max fan speed

[@Raintiger88]

You always put a lot of time in your testing an it's much appreciated.

[@ericsolnitzky795]

nice! I still can't decide, lol

[@itsyinie]

Same thing 😂

[@agentlesoul1975]

I've had two Legions. Both were great machines.

[@shorps]

Bought the G16 w 4080 because of the better battery life and it looks sleeker imo, NICE REVIEW BTW!

[@mrgibbles09]

Sleeker = hotter

[@shorps]

@@mrgibbles09 agreed lol

[@skimpist]

Do you run into any problems with cpu not been powerful enough? I'm looking at getting the g16 but I want the 4080. Not sure if the cpu is powerful enough though?

[@VladRadu-tq1pg]

@@shorps no, he literaly means hoter as in it s gonna burn

[@davitdavid7165]

@@VladRadu-tq1pg it is power throttled instead. Still not good

[@vjkruger]

Nice review, BUT the AMD G16 with the 9 HX 370 AI ryzen is a different discussion

[@LexNsfw]

I got the legion 7i i9 14900hx with 4060 for just over 1200 usd. Insane deal that only lasted a day. Cant wait for it to arrive

[@krystenvalencia2467]

Hi, did it arrive? Do you recommend it?

[@darkflash9902]

Hello did it arrive? What do you think about that laptop?

[@phynx2006]

Because I want to use the Lap[top when I travel for Photography the smaller and lighter the better. When traveling by plane camera bags that are sized for carry-on have laptop sleeves that are not that generous and will just barely fit a 16" Laptop, Therefore I would choose the Asus Zephyrus G16.❤ Great video 👍👍😎

[@le-donkeywrong]

This solidifies my decision for the Lenovo Legion. The upgradability is the deal breaker

[@AlwaysGrowing0]

I love how the Zephyrus has an OLED screen however no Numpad is a deal-breaker for me.

[@dashixll]

why the hell would you need a numpad in big 2024 🤣 they're literally useless

[@AlwaysGrowing0]

​@@dashixll As a network engineer, I spend a few hours each day typing IP addresses. For anyone who frequently works with numbers, a number pad is extremely helpful.

[@AlwaysGrowing0]

@@dashixll As a Network Engineer, I spend hours each day adjusting IP addresses to configure networks. For anyone who works frequently with numbers, having a number pad is extremely helpful.

[@MH-fs3lf]

you can just shift + any number you want, numpads are a total waste of space

[@derekl215]

Interesting. The presence of a numpad is a dealbreaker for me. It forces the rest of the keyboard off center and often, as a result, the trackpad

[@aLPHA-ef2pc]

Finally the video i was waiting for 💖

[@springtan62]

I was going to buy the g16 but it’s only available with the 16gb ram (like the one in the video) in my country so I decided to buy the Legion Pro 7i gen 8 instead. Man I really love the G16 design

[@greeneyelightskin746]

Which one legion did you get? 4070 or 4060? I don’t know which since 4070 is almost 2k dollars and 4060 is only 1.6k where I live…

[@m4x_payn3_enjoyer]

@@greeneyelightskin746 4080

[@HyBlock]

Video starts at 21:58

[@isuruthiwanka2595]

I had both Lenovo and Asus gaming laps. Most of the time I gofor Lenovo Legion🔥🔥 one.. Leveono Legion is killing it.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bigmaschineee]

i would choose g16 just because of the screen and build quality even if the performance is better in legion (asus is hotter but it’s built that way that it’s not important at all how hot it is)

[@Heavenamk]

Asus tends to have more thermal throttling than legion :)

[@DipSet85]

Just ordered the G16 laptop. I needed portability and efficiency. I mainly use Geforce Now for gaming so that OLED panel is going to be amazing with an RTX 4080 desktop.

[@Rodrifuuu]

Can't wait to see the review for the G16 with AMD. If there will ever be one.

[@Kitsune_Dev]

AI edition yes but they probably suck anyway

[@marcopn1174]

It's absolutely the same machine. Just with a slightly better CPU. Not really worth a review imho

[@Rodrifuuu]

@@marcopn1174 So the same machine except something that completely changes the way the computer behaves. Ok.

[@m4x_payn3_enjoyer]

​@@Rodrifuuu "I am working on a CPU comparison video with the Intel and AMD G16s at the moment, but it's a lot of work and probably 2-3 weeks out." - Jarrod'sTech

[@m4x_payn3_enjoyer]

@@marcopn1174 Battery life is noticeably better on the AMD variant.

[@TrungNguyen-uk7rj]

i'm currently using a legion 7i gen 7, still a solid choice for those who like legion 7i clean look and high build quality

[@mr.potatohead3870]

Thank you, man. I'm thinking about getting the 3080ti pre-owned but it costs 1700$ is that a good deal?

[@TrungNguyen-uk7rj]

@@mr.potatohead3870 you have to compare with newer model in your place, in mine tho, with 1700$ equivalent, i could get a newer 40 series legion 7i

[@davitdavid7165]

That looks like the price when it was brand new. Unless you really like that model and the previous owner never used it it is probably not a good deal.

[@Aleksandr-ke7gy]

I have G16 4060 32Gb Ultra9 version. G16 has perfect Oled screen with perfect anti-reflection coating. After gaming on this screen , you will never think about IPS again. It is another level of experience. And I can compare with Lenovo Slim 5 14" oled - G16 is in another league too. Slim 5 OLED has no coating and is highly reflective. Unusable - in my opinion. G16 has just the right level of anti-reflection so in is not noticeable in practice. I cannot praise it highl enough. And , in Silent mode, G16 is very quiet . Again, quiter than Lenovo (which has amd ryzen 7 7840has ), and has lower temps too.

[@HyBlock]

The video is not about the slim.

[@Aleksandr-ke7gy]

@@HyBlock I know. As I said, once you get GOOD oled, plain ips is no longer an option . So I compared with another OLED I had. BTW, another crucial advantage of oled over IPS - you don't have to worry about screen leaks. This is almost universal defect on all IPS which can totally break it. This IPS "feature" haunted me for many years.

[@HyBlock]

@@Aleksandr-ke7gy and OLED has burn-in. Never had any "screen leaks" btw

[@Aleksandr-ke7gy]

@@HyBlock Very few IPS panels are free from this defect. Very visible in the dark on dark screen. Patches of uneven brightness at the edges usually. Some of the asus laptops are especially bad. I had one Lenovo legion 5 17" which was nearly perfect thou. But it is hard to find one.

[@lionelmessithegoatLM10]

If you want a good screen but relatively weaker performance then g16 is good otherwise legion is much better ❤

[@panathaninf]

4070 and Intel HX is, surprisingly, the most sold combo for gaming laptop in Germany

[@Peaceull]

Absolutely peak design for both, they are so beautiful and minimalistic

[@ericwatson4624]

Jarrod, you are doing great comparisons and through reviews. Any chance that you can add a spectrogram to sound tests so we can see the sound profile? This would highlight 13:04 and help understand where it annoying frequencies are..

[@kaiichinose9590]

Great review, however at least in the US the third fan is replaced on the g16 with the 4080/4090 with Liquid Metal for better performance and runs cooler and quieter.

[@joshpeck9266]

Soldered ram is a big negative, and I’d prefer a bit more power but also like the portability. OLED is a must for me. I would go G16. On the other hand I’m curious what the M16/G16 may bring in 2025….

[@davitdavid7165]

It just seems to replace the chip. Sadly no lpcamm on it.

[@joshpeck9266]

@@davitdavid7165 I don’t understand anything u said bro?

[@davitdavid7165]

@@joshpeck9266 the 2025 g16 is just the 2024 model, but with the new CPU. Everything else is identical. It does not have the new, cool kind of ram (the lpcamm2 standard)

[@joshpeck9266]

@@davitdavid7165 2025 isn’t out I’m hoping for the NVIDIA 5000 series GPUs on G16 or M16 2025

[@joshpeck9266]

@@davitdavid7165 what type of ram is that tho?

[@alvirarahman574]

The G16 has a much better OLED Screen and way better speakers. Plus it is so much lighter.

[@JarrodsTech]

Yeah they are some nice advantages

[@DarenHasAGun]

I always couldn't decide over those two laptops, but now I know which one to choose. Cheers mate.🎉

[@DreamerTrain]

starting off, I havent seen people complain about Lenovo as a company (other than ThinkPad hate here and there), but plenty of complaints about Asus near non-existent support

[@ej1025]

The Legion 7i on sale at Best Buy was the clear choice for me. I wanted the AMD G16 32GB 4070, but not for $500-$600 more. And you can't even change the ram, also possible burn-in years later...

[@aaz1992]

Love my Aorus 17H with RTX 4080 and 360Hz screen. Bought it in March 2023 on sale for only $1400. Can't beat that deal, especially right on the month of release

[@abdallahmsaddi4242]

Never found 4080 laptop for les than 1700 Its a more than un beatable deal

[@lemonhead2205]

Well you just hit jackpot with that holy

[@dumdumgarcia2830]

You missed the point of the video, which is comparing two laptops at the same price point and similar in portability. No doubt Gigabyte makes good machines, but yours is a brick compared to the two in this video.

[@MrJarmenK]

Aorus what is screen type may i ask?

[@ShawnLangford]

Lenovo always has great sales. In fact, I just bought the Legion 7i with 4060 in Glacier White a few days ago at a good price and double Lenovo Rewards.

[@stefano78]

Love my Legion Slim 7 (which is the previous year's version of the Legion 7). That Glacier White is cool as hell though, but can't justify getting it as my LS7 already has a RTX 4060.

[@kushwamayumbelo1075]

should be a crime for a gaming laptop to come with tiny arrow keys

[@Deyv.z]

Please make a video about Intel 13/14th gen cause I'm exhausted of explaining to others that laptops are not as vulnerable due to much lower voltages than desktops.

[@JarrodsTech]

Intel put something out saying laptops weren’t affected, doesn’t really seem worth a video

[@ass5kickin]

Why do you bother explaining? People will pick whatever they want to, at the end of the day. Just let them be man. Jeez!

[@Smart_boy2001]

​@@JarrodsTecha post at least

[@yamiraven_]

When everyone started taking about the issues I was very worried about being affected with my m16, but nobody really talked about the laptops. I did a lot of research, but found nothing definitive. Didn’t help that I am still relatively new to this field. I did research over multiple weeks and hoped that some trustable source could cover it, but I got nothing. I had to accept the “It seems to be less of an issue but laptops might still be affected” answer, which is all I found online. At some point I stopped looking. But upon reading this comment, of all things, I finally have a reply to give me peace of mind. So yea, I personally would have really appreciated the info and an explanation as to why it’s the case.

[@harshivpatel6238]

​@@JarrodsTechhow about actak voltages on Desktop CPUs vs laptop ones ? A comparison & performance differences could be interesting....😮

[@flavius6497]

I picked the G16 with RTX 4090. I absolutely love it!

[@SonicMrSumo]

Good vid. But I think the Aero 16 needs to be in this mix. I moved from a G16 to an Aero 16 and never looked back. Aero has a better keyboard, upgradeable RAM, better build quality / feel, better cooling and heaps better value. The only areas the G16 wins are the speakers (they're excellent, and only average in the Aero) and the screen refresh rate (Aero is 4K, but only 60hz).

[@nameless_stranger]

These two are literally my only options this year. Also, Jarrod just talking and leaning on his desk actually makes the G16 wobble, bruh.

[@kobbycrentsil2859]

Would you look at that!! Just in time for my next purchase 😊

[@danielgonzalez027]

watched this on my 2024 G16 =)

[@justsam100]

The 2024 Zephyrus models are great. I have a Zephyrus duo 16 (2023 model) and am very impressed with what asus managed to do in such a slim form factor. The G16 looks just as good, more portable and with an amazing OLED. The tradeoff is that the power envelope is a bit nerfed overall, although it doesn't matter on 4070 and 4060 models as the cards are hyperefficient and maintain the same performance even at lower wattages. The 4080 (and 4090) not so much, which is where you want a full size gaming laptop.

[@brrrburberry2554]

I can't understand in america is 1700 dollars and in europe 2700 euro like 3000+ dollars same models are 80% more expensive

[@ContraVsGigi]

Must be a combination of higher taxes and distribution greed.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Basically, it is not supposed to available in your region, someone imported it.

[@simonwatkins999]

Does not include sales tax in the US

[@Subuzgreatest]

Taxes are a b!tch.

[@secret_guy2842]

Thanks mate this helped alot im getting the g16 next week. Thanks alot

[@KINGABREVE]

did you bought the laptop and how it is

[@secret_guy2842]

​@@KINGABREVEye I bought it and it's really nice. It has good battery life, speakers and the OLED which the Lenovo doesn't have

[@EminGT]

Battery life for the win. No way I'm getting a laptop with less than 8 hours of battery life.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Sadly, that seems to be a massive compromise with Intel HX CPUs this generations. And most gaming laptops with upgradable RAM use the HX CPUs. I personally would take the battery life hit to get upgradable RAM.

[@davitdavid7165]

@@cameronbosch1213 amd has both.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@davitdavid7165 unfortunately, unlike 2021/2022, they seem to be MIA.

[@davitdavid7165]

@@cameronbosch1213 nah. You can get the legion slim 7 with a 4060 and amd cpu refurbished for 1k in the US. That is zen4 efficiency, big battery and a GPU that is mostly on par with the 4070 in a good chassis (basically the same as the legion 7 of 2024). It has 16 gigs soldered plus an slot you can fill with anything, so upgradable enough. That is honestly my number 1 consideration if I don't go with something like a 14 inch or a modern laptop with good igpu. And that is just one really good deal. You could maybe also find a 2023 g14 with similar options. Unless you are in a particularly secluded location there are deals everywhere.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@davitdavid7165 Legion Slim 7 doesn't exist because it was discontinued. And it has soldered RAM. I'd personally wait until 2025 if I wanted one.

[@fisioterapiaconivan]

I was feeling like watching a great movie during the video. Thanks for the excellent work Jarrod.

[@aras_aras_aras_aras]

A great video! I would appreciate a comparison between G16 and Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i, as it is a better match for G16 because it also has a Core Ultra processor, an RTX 4070 option, and better speakers.

[@davitdavid7165]

@@aras_aras_aras_aras I would avoid the yoga due to the power button. Salemntechsports has a video about it. It breaks and is impossible to replace.

[@theirregularadventurers]

i'm in zephyrus team here... sincerely besides the slightly better performance on the legion i don't see much of an issue. Better battery, slightly better screen, better sound system, better portability, slightly better I/O. The upgradability option is a nice to have on the legion, but not a big deal to me, since i and as probably most of the potential buyers won't buy it having that specific purpose in mind.

[@Dr.D00p]

They're both a waste of money with that POS 4070 in them...save yourself $500 and get a good 4060 laptop, it will only be about 10% slower.

[@reven06]

Yeah either 4060 or just jump to 4080

[@jam_thagoat3283]

@@reven06 4090

[@Namu4Life]

The Legion 7i also has configuration for a RTX 4060 if you didn’t know, definitely much cheaper compared to the zephyrus g16

[@zerenityzerene4410]

Pos?

[@oogwaythesussyturtle]

so basically- if u want more performance get the legion and if u want better battery life and portability, get the zephyrus. honestly both laptops compete really well. i personally would go for asus cuz battery life matters a lot to me.

[@blackclover601]

hi jarrod we love you man

[@formulaic78]

I'd get the G16 for increased portability. I have the slim 7i and it's great but losing half a kg would make carrying it around with me that little bit easier.

[@DipSet85]

for me personally its thr G16 because i need it as a work laptop too and use it mainly on the couch and I travel. I would have got a macbook pro m3 but the pixel response time is 25ms!!! Thats why I'm looking at the OLED on the G16 with good battery life too to last most of the day.

[@unionofslavstanrepublics2317]

22:23 *Happy Lenovo Legion owner noises*

[@JarrodsTech]

lol

[@DansYT-lv8iu]

Legion for the win!

[@laptoplivegaming]

finally the review that we needed

[@shivammajhi7979]

G16 is for me. Simply can't let the battery life go for toss. I was using the 2020 Acer Predator Helios 300 with i7 and rtx 2060 and it was probably one of the most value for money laptop but the battery could last only for like 2 hours in low brightness, 60hz, and system set to best efficiency. And apart from battery the weight was too much, it was 2.3 kgs, initially i thought i could manage but daily travel from college to my room with laptop and charger was not convenient. Battery is equally as important as performance and Value for money proposition in my honest opinion.

[@MA-jz4yc]

I prefer the Leigon in almost every aspect but would choose the G16 just because of the screen.

[@vncube1]

Makes me wonder what a Legion 7 in that beautiful chassis and excellent cooling would look like with Core Ultra or Ryzen.

[@vizdrom]

9:31 FYI It's also pretty irritating if you want immersion. In my LOQ I used a punching machine and black tape to put a circle on the center for, but it's probably going to be more tricky for the circle, as it would also interfere with fingerprint scanner

[@scheimong]

What a coincidence! I was just shopping earlier today for a 16'' laptop, and bam, here's a video by one of the best reviewers on two of the candidates. I must say I prefer the G16 in every other way, but the soldered memory is an immediate deal breaker. Can't have that. But I must also acknowledge, having just handled the G16 at an Asus booth, it is an incredibly compact device for the power it carries. So I understand why they chose to compromise on this front. Also gives me a bit more appreciation of why some manufacturers are pushing for the new flat-mount RAM formfactor (forgot its name).

[@davitdavid7165]

Yeah, lpcamm I huge. My hope is that it catches on and we can achieve g16 form factors with no compromises

[@eddyezzy1115]

Watching this video happily with my g14 with 32gb R9 & 4060 :D

[@nemesis7884]

Lenovo usually has good quality and you xan nearly always get a discount code

[@tarfeef_4268]

Personally I'd do the g16, if I'm buying a performance machine in 2024 it needs at least 32gb OOTB anyways. And I definitely like the bigger touchpad, better speakers, OLED panel, and battery life/efficiency over a couple frames, for a laptop.

[@iamthe1whowillbringpeace316]

I got a very good deal on 4080 msi vector. Yes fans can be annoying but the performance for the price is mind blowing. Plus when you got headset you cant hear the fan noise. Cheapest 4080 to buy

[@benoitpantaloni4872]

The numeric keypad is a showstopper for me, I prefer no numeric keypad and centered trackpad, so I’d choose the Zephyrus.

[@randy89555]

If not the oled, definitely would go with zephyrus. That big weight difference is a no brainer

[@D.u.d.e.r]

Well done faceoff comparison👍

[@pattymcfatty0]

my issue with ASUS is their keyboards. Their fonts and layout absolutely suck! They go for a slim sleek discrete design and yet as soon as you open up it just looks like a generic gaming laptop. Also, I've found that going through about 3-6 hours straight of class at university per day with the Lenovo Legion 7i i9-14900HX RTX 4070 lasts fine when in quiet mode for me at least. Also, nowadays it's not too hard to have a plug everywhere. I mean, even airplanes have ports nowadays so I don't think it's as big of concern for most customers. Overall though, I'm sure people will be happy with their choice since they're getting either laptop because it satisfies their specific issues. My only gripe with the Legion 7i is not having a RTX 4080 option. The RTX 4080 Laptop GPU is definitely the best bang for your buck when it comes to wattage in laptops. The cooling is so great already and the fan noise is very good so idk why they couldn't get it working.

[@CPGrafismos]

What do you expect for the next year's model? I hope it gets Thunderbolt 5 and a touchscreen.

[@SilverWolfPL]

A month ago I was considering 16' 4080/4090 laptop with bright screen. My picks were: Zephyrus G16, Legion 7 , Zenbook Pro 16X, Zehyrus M16, Blade 16. Eventually i found Zephyrus Duo 64/4090 on sale.

[@davitdavid7165]

As I understand the g16 with the 4080/90 is heavier and still can't give it the full power. Unless you do a bios flash (which is risky) it is a horrible idea. The unupgradable ram makes it worse.

[@SilverWolfPL]

@@davitdavid7165 Yeah G16 is only 115W with 4090, this is one of the reasons i was leaning to other options.

[@davitdavid7165]

Wouldn't the ultra chop also bottleneck it? Honestly I feel like the 4080/90 options exist just so they can set it does. It is a useless option​@@SilverWolfPL

[@SilverWolfPL]

@@davitdavid7165 That is a valid point. I guess that CPU demanding games would make most difference here. To be honest I haven't found side by side gaming comparison between 185H and 14900HX/7945HX so if You have any I would gladly see it.

[@davitdavid7165]

@@SilverWolfPL you could look for examples on this channel with example laptops.

[@Eragon_RH]

Really good in depth video Basically theyre both really good and you shouldn't stress between which one you bought/ are looking to buy too much

[@harshivpatel6238]

Lenovo definitely, if the RAM ever dies, you can just swap out, soldered memory is a dead board that could keep you out of the system of weeks....

[@davitdavid7165]

@@Eragon_RH they are both expensive and have problems. It matters to know which problems you are choosing to deal with as you purchase one

[@selimrozyev5637]

I personally would choose Lenovo Legion 7i. Love the series.

[@taiwogbenga9055]

I bought the g16 already and I love it

[@voidvoid5151]

Legion wins imo, best with an AMD processor, have a Legion 5 Pro and it's amazing by all standards. Zephyrus soldered memory is just horrible.

[@boblienhart]

I'm waiting to see what Lenovo does with the HX370 and an RTX 4080 or 4090.

[@Cooper3312000]

I was shocked when I saw the rtx4090 on the G16 was only connected by 8 lanes of pcie3.0 must be a CPU limitation not a huge deal for a thin and light laptop I guess. I ended up returning one because of the terrible stuttering and performance when unplugged from power.

[@ch0ketv_]

After watching your review, I bought the Legion 7i and for some reason, it had major overheating issues right away. I exchanged it several times and every model I had would overheat and shut down the minute I loaded up just about any game. I previously had the 2021 model Legion 7 and loved it but this years model has a clear design flaw with the cooler. I ended up returning the Legion 7i and buying the Strix G18 instead. I do miss the design and build quality of the Legion tho.

[@JarrodsTech]

That sucks. We've never had any issues like that with any Legion. Hope you enjoy the G18!

[@ch0ketv_]

@@JarrodsTech It has been great, performance wise. I do not care for the design and keyboard layout though. I've always loved the Legion design and aesthetics, Especially the white version.

[@xXlURMOMlXx]

As someone whos had both lenovo and asus product.... Im never buying an asus again. Form factor and specs for asus look great on paper but in practice it's terrible. These reviews never bring up the long term quirks the laptops come with

[@CrazyAboutVinylRecords]

You have a better chance of finding a Yeti wandering around in New York City than you do of finding a Legion 7i in white with anything better than a RTX4060

[@93SupaFly]

Guys get lenovo. Asus has so many issues with motherboard failure. It doesnt matter intel or amd, zenbook, rog's, tuf, cheap or expensive. All of them line up at service centre with same symptoms, cannot power on or can power but Black screen. Asus will say they replace motherboard an detach your ssd for you to backup your stuff yourself. How come people still wanted asus after their rma scam case on the rog ally and the desktop motherboard issues beyond beliefs.

[@melenad6383]

Damn any sources backing your claim's? Because if that's the case wouldn't Jarrod tell us about this problems and will never recommend Asus ever again.

[@93SupaFly]

@melenad6383 i work in an i.t store here in malaysia. I know whats going in and out and which has less issue and which has most issues. I work as technician and rma officer. In malaysia atleast (and i believe most south east asian country) we dont get the luxury of straight firing to the brand / manufacturer. We have to go through distributor instead. But ofcourse when my sales team sold whatever they want infront to customer, i cant really control that as we dont want to distrupt their sales.

[@Subuzgreatest]

​@@93SupaFlyLenovo is famous for its motherboards dying.

[@93SupaFly]

@Subuzgreatest I speak from my experience handling the tech and rma side in my workplace for almost 8 years. There no good or bad, best and worse. Cust ask me, which is the best? I replied to them " how about I you which BRAND has THE LEAST problem and return to shop or service centre instead?" Least problem Brand in terms of return rate 1. Lenovo 2. Dell ( nobody buys Dell here Lol) 3. Acer Most send in for warranty 1. HP ( most bought brand here in Malaysia so the volume is higher ) 2. Asus ( dead motherboard ) Most critical problem all the time in terms of hardware failure 1. Asus Oh and let's not forget their ROG phones and zenfones too Most expensive because of branding 1. Asus Oh and at least here in my Malaysia, asus centre and service is the worst crap ever.

[@marinokranjcec7210]

Legion & Zephyrus should make a 2kg baby

[@OCHERii]

What an awesome review, thank you. would appreciate if anyone can share their experience if the trackpad position to the left on the legion is annoying to work with or not 🙏🏻

[@JarrodsTech]

Trackpad to the left is pretty common on laptops. I haven't had any issues with it while testing many laptops.

[@OCHERii]

@@JarrodsTech thank you for that

[@JT11111]

My opinion is, if you want the g16, you have to buy the 4080 version or stick with Legion 7i if you want the 4070

[@davitdavid7165]

The 4080 is underpowered on it and bottlenecked by the ultra chip. You also lose most of the weight savings with it. It only kinda works as a successor to the 2023 g14

[@JT11111]

@@davitdavid7165 even with it being underpowered, it performs better than the Legion 7i, and the slight weight gain is better than the 3 fan system on the 4070 which eliminates the annoying fan noise complaint and makes the overall laptop cooler, which means the 4080 specifically (and 4090 obviously) is the best portable powerhouse money can buy right now

[@JT11111]

@@davitdavid7165 4080 G16 is like a full powered Legion 7i, in terms of game performance, which makes it the perfect portable laptop, also the fan noise and heat issue is fixed on the 4080 with its cooling technology that doesnt require 3 fans and high pitched noise

[@davitdavid7165]

@@JT11111 it is much pricier, still unupgradable and you can disable the middle fan if that is a big issue, plus most of the weight savings are gone. Plus the 4080 is underpowered, you won't reach the performance of the non slim even if you ignore the limitations of ultra. I am not saying you should like it, I am just saying that there are valid reasons to go to an alternative.

[@JT11111]

Again, it being heavier makes it still lighter and more portable than the Legion 7i, and again, it being underpowered is true compared to other 4080 laptops, but compared to Legion 7i its still slightly better, and turning the 3rd fan off will make it a heat chamber, now when it comes to price, thats valid, but for me I fixed that issue by importing one from the US, which made the conversion only around £200 more expensive than the Legion 7i, which made it a steal, also I had the Legion 7i but I returned it, so I have experience with both laptops, G16 4080 feels like a macbook that can play AAA games, which makes it the best portable powerhouse money can buy right now, its a shame how the next gen G16 will be more powerful with the 50 series GPU and Core Ultra series 2, that laptop will probably blow all the other laptops out of the park with ease

[@patrickfouhy9102]

Not a fan of the updated spec of the G16. I know he Ultra CPU is efficient, but the 14900hx is so much better IMO, and makes the Legion my choice.

[@MichaelStanton]

Ah man, I was hoping this was the AMD version of the Zephyrus.

[@ryoji4200]

Some things just don’t make it into reviews. I’ve grown increasingly dissatisfied with Asus build quality. I would encourage everyone to go with Lenovo, and if you are interested in the smaller 14 inch form factor that Asus is famous for, Lenovo does it too, without being an oven like the G14.

[@Joshualaw-s5y]

Hello Jarrod , in future reviews to show FPS in games maybe you could also show results with RTX or DLSS as these are feature I would pay for and would be interested to see how modern game devs add the features for. Thank you