The Fastest Men On Earth (1964 - Tokyo) 15/20

This part features Bob Hayes (USA)

[@randysandberg5615]

Bob Hayes was a phenom. Many of his runs were on cinder tracks! RIP, Mr. Hayes.

[@mstrunn]

@Randy All on cinder or dirt, no all weather until 66-67!

[@miguelarouca4150]

All of his runs. There were no synthetic tracks in his era. He retired from athletics shortly after the Tokyo Olympics to pursue a brilliant career as a running back of the Dallas Cowboys.

[@benthekeeshond545]

@@miguelarouca4150 I believe Bullet Bob was a receiver. He also returned kickoffs and punts.

[@drobson8004]

@@benthekeeshond545 Correct

[@loydkline]

Running 🏃‍♀️ bullet Bob hayes

[@buk45w94]

Wind aided, unaided cedar track or modern track it doesn't matter if you are a TRUE competitor or fan of track and field he was the fastest sprinter. R.I.P Great one

[@dave18404]

i was there in the stands; age 12. Bullet Bob Hayes was amazing. maybe not the most pretty running style, but the power and sheer speed was fantastic. The fastest Man Alive! forever

[@henrybrowne7248]

Yeah. I just marvel at that form of his, yet he had great top end. And acceleration, of course.

[@andrewr62]

Not a Cowboy fan for sure but all football fans got to appreciate the great Bob Hayes. Zone defense was created to cover him deep.

[@dwaynegreen1786]

Very courageous to face his faults and the greatest sprinter of all time, in my opinion. R.I.P. 2002

[@wobblertv8083]

Awesome sprinter ...But Usain bolt is the greatest sprinter of all time.

[@benthekeeshond545]

@@wobblertv8083 Yes! But this man you mentioned belongs to a different era. Bullet Bob was the greatest of genuine sprinters. The dude you mentioned belongs to the super-supplement era.

[@loydkline]

@Wobbler tv non football players Usain bolt;; bob hayes was a football player

[@dwaynegreen1786]

@@loydkline true, he was both, but I was referring to the presented video. He was the also the 1964 Olympic 100 meter championIn and in my opinion the greatest natural sprinter of all time. (10.0 from a chewed-up and wet, dirt track)

[@amooolusina6978]

​@@benthekeeshond545 Dude is the one with 3 gold medals in 100m and another 3golad medals with 200 . You are a clown

[@AyayronBalakay]

my pops played with him in Dallas. I never heard a bad thing about this man. Only that he was amazing. In fact this is a shock to me.

[@websterscam]

Bob Hayes,is the fastest ever to live.undeafeated in 49 consecutive sprints,in college track,60 yds.100 yds.100 meters.world record in all 3 events,going into theTokyo Olympics.He had 5 9.1 second clockings at 100 yds.in 1963.He still today holds the record for 60yds.at 5.9 seconds.Also was hand timed at 5.38 seconds at 60yds.this is all most unbeleiveable but true.Bobs 4 by 100 meter anchor at Tokyo,8.5 to 8.6 seconds,was run on a moist,dirt track,can you imagine what that time would have been on todays mondo synthetic tracks,engineered for speed.Rest my case.SA.

[@MrTrack412]

Wow, he won 49 straight sprints! That has got to be very rare.

[@benthekeeshond545]

Bullet Bob stopped competing in T&F at 21. Imagine he stayed training for another 5 years. He would run right into another great sprinter, Jim Hines. Those 2 would have broken many stopwatches. Too bad, during his days, not much from T&F to compensate their earnings. Another huge disadvantage for Bullet Bob and Jim Hines was no PEDs but yet, Bob Hayes recorded the highest velocity achieved by a human in the 4X100 relay. Not even today's PED addicts can run any faster than that.

[@miguelarouca4150]

@@benthekeeshond545 But Hines wasn't a patch on Hayes. Hayes would have clocked under 9.80 in the altitude of Mexico, although those first tartan tracks were quite slow compared to the supersonic tracks of Beijing and, especially, Berlin, the fastest track of all time, where Bolt broke those records.

[@benthekeeshond545]

@@miguelarouca4150 I hear you! But most crucial for athletes after the 1970s, the sprinters got a completely distinct advantage with super-supplements. Look at what one can achieve with high-tech supplements. A pitcher won many Cy Young awards after being released by the Boston Red Sox. A baseball outfielder cracked a few hundred HRs after the age of 38. A cycling dude won 5 or 6 straight Tour De France. No wonder the sprinters since the 1980s became so fast. By the way, they resemble more like bodybuilders.

[@peterabraham1168]

Hayes and Bolt are the two fastest in my lifetime

[@LisaLawver]

Even though I was and am a Packer fan, Hayes was one of my favorites. He and Gale Sayers. Just amazing athletes.

[@mothertree]

It is with all honesty that I say Bob Hayes is the fastest man ever!

[@WorldLeader12345]

mothertree After Usain Bolt

[@benthekeeshond545]

@@WorldLeader12345 Let all of the PED addicts run on a dirt track with shoes from the 1960s. I bet none of them can crack 10. Including Usain Bolt.

[@pbrown7357]

Ben TheKeeshond what you think Jamaicans run/practice on growing up,

[@benthekeeshond545]

@@pbrown7357 So! Are they now competing on dirt tracks? I have no respect for modern-day T&F athletes, not just Jamaican sprinters.

[@ashsol2657]

@@benthekeeshond545 the good dirt, cinder tracks were not slow, as people think. Look at sprinters who ran on both, late 60s, their times about the same. Probably training methods today , professional athletics, reason they run faster today.

[@websterscam]

Bob Hayes anchor,at the 64 Tokyo Olympics,wasnt runing,it was Star Trek,teleportation.

[@tunanorth]

Not as fast every time out as Usain Bolt, but on that day in Tokyo in 1964, when he got the baton in last place, and looked like he virtually had a rocket up his butt, THAT is the fastest any human being has ever run under their own power.

[@thomasdemay9805]

he may have been as fast as Bolt. Considering Track Surface (the Cinder Track itself is slower than Modern Tracks) and think about fact he was wearing borrowed 1960s shoes versus the modern technologies.

[@toddsands6000]

That's an awful analogy when comparing two sprinters more than 40 years apart. You have to put things in perspective on how special Bob Hayes was in 1964.

[@MrTrack412]

Stephen Forfor We must remember the pioneers and I certainly agree that under the same circumstances Bob Hayes could certainly have beaten Usain Bolt. Jesse Owens was also fast and had his situation/life situations to battle. Life in the 1930s was tougher than life in the 1960s for athletic excellence. Not only do we know what to do now, more importantly, we know what NOT to do!

[@WorldLeader12345]

Jed Clampett Nah Hayes would lose to Bolt tbh.

[@benthekeeshond545]

@@WorldLeader12345 It is simple to prove that. Put today's PED addicts into the shoes of Bullet Bob when he ran the 1964 Tokyo 100m. Dirt track too. I bet all of them will take 0.5sec or more off their best time. Also, we should not cheer or appreciate cheaters. 90% of the sprinters after 1980 are drug addicts.

[@saverioman]

Exactly right. And he won his Olympic medals at 21...not at his physical peak. He was at least Usain Bolt's equal as a sprinter.

[@WorldLeader12345]

saverioman Maybe just under Bolt.

[@hellswindstaff91]

@@WorldLeader12345 agreed.

[@clodge5196]

Bolt fanboy broads

[@miguelarouca4150]

@@WorldLeader12345 Not under Bolt at all. It would have been a fantastic rivalry, nip and tuck, but I think, over 100m, he would have beaten Bolt more often than lost.

[@benthekeeshond545]

@@miguelarouca4150 To begin with, we shouldn't compare cheaters to honest people such as the Great Bob Hayes. Bolt, like his contemporary sprinters, depended on the dosage he took before each race. The drugs company warned that too much will shorten his lifespan. In some races, he underperformed and lost because of too little extras. This is why Bolt, Gatlin, Powell, Gay, Blake, and etc. couldn't be consistent. They would be easily off 0.5 sec or more from race to race. On the contrary, Bullet Bob Hayes was consistent and never lost a race, official or unofficial. Because the Great Bob Hayes was running according to his natural ability. Bob Hayes could be off if he injured himself. Bob Hayes, the fastest human so far.

[@newtonburr3123]

I love you Bob Hayes. I watched you all during your Cowboy days. You were always one of my heroes. As a native American I know the struggle of alcohol and drugs. Your achievements will always be remembered! Just give all Glory to God and keep doing your important work of warning and mentoring the young people and players. God bless you my precious hero!

[@brettwilkinson9529]

Bob Hayes I believe was the fastest sprinter in history. Died age 59

[@laylademeur163]

Too Young. Bless his family.

[@cliffhughes6010]

Hayes retired from track at 21. He hadn't peaked. I wish he'd had modern professional athletics, modern training, diet and synthetic tracks to keep him in sprinting. He would have lowered that world record for maybe another 8 or 9 years. Imagine what he'd have run at altitude in Mexico.

[@brettwilkinson9529]

@Jimmy Nance ????? What you mean ?

[@brettwilkinson9529]

@Jimmy Nance I get what you meant now . 50 metres

[@miguelarouca4150]

This was the first Olympics I watched, I was 13. I went on to do athletics myself and was one of the best long jumpers in my country. I fell in love with this man. He was a physical colossus who had a very short-lived track-and-field career which prevented him fulfilling his mind-blowing potential. His run in the 4x100m relay final as the anchorman was superhuman.

[@ftsjr]

RIP, Bob Hayes.

[@georgeanthony7282]

Can you imagine... once being considered "the fastest man in the world"! "Bullet" Bob Hayes was indeed happy to finally have won the Super Bowl with the Cowboys in 1971-and getting that wonderful ring in the process. But he admitted, nothing would ever replace the personal thrill and joy (he experienced) when he won the gold medal in the 100 yd dash!

[@mstrunn]

@George 100 meters, there is a difference.

[@mstrunn]

@@ashsol2657 Slightly slower? I've run on both tartan tracks faster!

[@walterpalmer2749]

Everyone has their demons, but you fight back. A champion lifts himself off the ground when knocked down and fights onward. It’s not necessary to be an Olympic medalist to be a champion, but it helps. A good man.

[@use2slam2]

easy way to compare Blt and Hayes,let's put Bolt on that same LOOSE DIRT track and see what he runs on it at age 21 like Hayes, hell Hayes ran a 9.91 in the semi-final(wind just over legal) but 9,91 on a shit dirt track,and he WAS a football player FIRST not just concentrating on sprinting,no question in my mind he is STILL the fastest man ever on the planet,and that anchor leg was just SICK !

[@websterscam]

Yes John right again,i saw an interview with Bob Hayes,on a show named Greatest Sports Lengends,with Tom Seaver famous NY.Mets pitcher,at the 1963 AAU COLLEGE TRACK AND FIEILD CHAMPIONSHIPS,HAYES SET A NEW WORLD RECORD AT 100 YDS.AT 9.1 SECONDS IN THE SEMI FINALS ,IN THE 100 TD.FINAL,SOMEONE HAD KIDED AROUND WITH HIS STARTING BLOCKS,HE SLIPED COMING OFF THE BLOCKS AS A RESULT OF THIS.He still won the race,at 9.1 seconds,and was clocked at over 27 mph.at the 75 yd.mark of this particular race.Rest my case,fastest ever.

[@WorldLeader12345]

john p Sorry but Bolt and a few others are faster tbh, but Hayes was great.

[@mtgne5351]

Bob Hayes, Tokyo 1964 - I remember!

[@johnf991]

I was an 11 year old mad-keen athletics fan in the UK when the USA v GB match at the White City Stadium in west London took place. The GB team of Peter Radford (bronze 100m in 1960), Ron Jones, David Jones and Berwyn Jones (who later had a successful career in rugby league) were ahead by a good 8 yards at the last changeover in the 4x110 yards relay due to their far superior baton changes.........I think Henry Carr (gold, Tokyo, 200m, ran the 3rd leg). Hayes' acceleration was astonishing and after about 80 yards he was maybe half a yard behind the diminutive Jones who, somehow, with the giant shadow of Hayes looming over his shoulder, crossed line first. Just! It was like watching David and Goliath. I've searched for this on KZbin, but without success.

[@rcbeamer]

The only man to win an Olympic gold medal and a Super Bowl.

[@gb6722]

My inspiration growing up and the only Hero i had ,some times life can throw a lot at you but he will always be THE GREATEST IN MY EYES 💯💯

[@r.crompton2286]

Wrong, ill-thought out choices proved to be his ruin. Most of us make our share of them along life's difficult road. Bob's gone but I will never forget watching him destroy the field at the '64 Tokyo Olympics. He was a phenom.

[@timciccarelliciccarelli8583]

Imagine Bob Hayes running on the track surfaces of today. It's unreal to imagine how fast he could have run. Bullet Bob was the fastest man in the world and I don't care about the modern day guys, he'd smoke them.

[@sydboski]

Yet Jim Hines ran 10.03 on dirt and cinders in 1968 to break Hayes' 10.06 world record.

[@truth8508]

@@sydboski yes but Bob did it in lane 1 full of divots in 1964 and it had just rained. And Hines never ran a 4x1 split of 8.6 seconds which is still the fastest split ever recorded.

[@sydboski]

@@truth8508 Look at pictures of the track it is not as bad as history has it. The rack was only 6 years old and they just resurfaced it for the Olympics. I saw nothing about rain in anything I have read about that final, and I have read a lot. Hines track was 40 years old. I'm sure it was in worse shape than the Olympic track. Hayes' anchor leg 8.6 time is a myth. It was broken down frame by frame and it turned out to be 8.9. Not 8.6 which would have been hand timed back in 1964. Plus relay leg splits are not official. If you look up Hines split some say it was 8.2 which is ridiculous also.

[@truth8508]

@@sydboski 23 second mark shows the finish line and relative foot traffic in lane 1. Also Hines record was at altitude where many records are set and he was only faster by the slightest of margins. Higher altitude records are now noted by IAAF because of lower atmospheric pressure. 10.06 on cinder track in spikes is just insane. Carbon fiber shoes are half the weight today of those in 1964.

[@truth8508]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/npPJgoWIprGkoas

[@dannapier2560]

A $700.00 cocaine deal and get’s 5 years in prison? My, my, my! 😡😡😡😡

[@davidholcomb9393]

God bless him,I understand.I lost everything that I ever cared about or wanted because of alcohol and drugs.

[@miguelarouca4150]

What would his networth have been had he been around in the modern era? Hundreds of millions of dollars. But American footballers didn't earn a lot of money back then.

[@illuminusmaximus7643]

😎Through the ups and downs i never looked at him different he the man then now and forever.Had the same thing happened today he would've been able to bounce back faster .

[@anthonybrown2100]

The glory days of HBCU's big up to FAMU (Bob Hayes)and in 1968 TSU (Jim Hines).

[@benthekeeshond545]

Anthony, Agree! Bullet Bob and Jim Hines are genuine sprinters, not drug-assisted cheaters.

[@miguelarouca4150]

Bob Hayes would have shown Jim Hines a clean pair of heels. There was no comparison. I can only imagine what Hayes would have done in Mexico in a prime 25 years of age.

[@jimmywilliams5607]

Met Bob at Love Field in 1973. Good guy.

[@markisaac3550]

Congrats pulling life back the brink u are awesome

[@D.Antony]

What an absolutely amazing human being. The fastest ever.

[@sydboski]

How is he the fastest ever?

[@roybean7166]

He might have been the fastest, we'll never know. But having seen all those old interviews with him, many after his jailing, he comes across as having been an amazing guy. Roy b, Cape Town, South 🇿🇦 africa.

[@dougmckinney2902]

my all time favorite

[@kenyongray2615]

With today's shoes, tracks and training, Bullet Boy would have been in front of Bolt in a race. Bob was the fastest man in the history of this planet.

[@danischeel4846]

I still think Bob Hayes is the best cowboys receiver ever!

[@R1MORRIS]

Certainly the most exciting. And, don't forget he also returned punts for touchdowns. I oftened wondered why teams actually kicked the ball where it could be returned when Bob Hayes & Mel Renfro were waiting for it.

[@johnbarnett6924]

Richard Stebbins ran the 3rd leg,on that team. Front John C Freemount High School in Los Angeles We graduated the same year.John

[@use2slam2]

anyone say what you want but THIS IS the fastest man EVER. come on 10.05 on a chewed up cinder(dirt YES DIRT) track and he let up on his last 2 strides,easily under 10.0 just running through the tape even on this shit dirt track,at age 31 in salt lake city Utah he ran a 4.3 electronic(not those b.s. 40 times) against Mel Gray in the short lived "pro track circuit" he ran a 60 against a rookie Isaac Curtis( a legit 9.3 100man)and beat him by 5yards saw that on CBS back in 73

[@Tyspeed0528]

john p wasn't faster than hines

[@websterscam]

yes,John i agree fastest ever to live,his 8.6 second clocking at the Tokyo 4 by 100 meter relay,on a moist dirt track,is incredible,on todays mondo-synthetic tracks,engineered for speed,that time would have been 2 to 3 tenths faster.Hayes had 5,9.1 second clockings at 100 yds.in 1963 college track,people dont relize how fast this is at 100 yds.it is flying.

[@mstrunn]

@John p It was a chewed up cinder track in Tokyo!

[@mstrunn]

@@Tyspeed0528 Hines ran at altitude which gives sprinters an advantage.

[@benthekeeshond545]

@@mstrunn Hines was not as good as Bullet Bob but Hines was really good, one of the best ever. Unlike 90% of modern-day sprinters, Hines was hard-working, discipline, and clean. Hines was the sprinter similar to Bullet Bob, deserved all respect as a true and honest athlete.

[@chha6439]

Great guy 👍🏽

[@benthekeeshond545]

Amazing! @3:00, the shoes Bullet Bob wore was not even a pair of track shoes. My God! I wonder how fast Bob Hayes could have run wearing his own shoes. Today, if we put the fastest drug addicts into that pair of shoes and a dirt track, I am sure all of them will have a hard time cracking 10 seconds.

[@mstrunn]

@Ben Cinder track!

[@johnwhitfield5376]

THE GOAT.... PERIOD...

[@alansamuel2454]

There's an error in the title. It's THE FASTEST MAN ON EARTH.

[@fares.b1301]

3:20 what an acceleration !!!!!!!!!

[@hyunle07]

The only man who won both an Olympic Gold Medal and a Super Bowl

[@benthekeeshond545]

The Great Bob Hayes actually won 2 Olympic Gold Medals.

[@Comeoffitman]

What did you think many I had a black eye when it was on the best lane on it?

[@lockbert99]

Wonder what his training regimen was? I think this was before weight training took off in sports

[@gerardasaro5535]

Hayes.was.greatist.sprinter.of.all.time.god.bless.him

[@brokefornow]

They said Bob Hayes ran a 9.1 in the 100m and his anchor leg in the relay was 8.6. How in the world is this not an Olympic record?

[@carlmorrow1600]

Eye Washere he ran 10 seconds in the 100m

[@badabing8884]

Eye Washere - 9.1 secs for 100 yards, not metres. That's 91.44 metres.

[@jimanderson7648]

in a relay he is taking baton from a running start not from a stand still thats why

[@hozman5700]

Are you stupid

[@BreuckelensFinest]

@@hozman5700 Don't be mean. The person is asking. It's not about being right or wrong it's about being kind & being kind, you're right everytime!

[@Bellinghamspence]

amazing how the camera focused on his waist up profile.

[@benthekeeshond545]

I am looking for the 1064 Olympic relay video.

[@MrTrack412]

His 10.0 100 would be 9.45 under modern conditions? How fast would the 8.6 relay leg convert to???

[@benthekeeshond545]

under 8 sec

[@mstrunn]

@Jed Remember his anchor leg was hand timed not electronic, there is a difference.

[@richardgallimore5976]

8.6 hand timed would be 8.84 on average electric time, so 9.84 from a stand still. Hard to compare that to 9.58 with current technology, it's just guesswork who would be faster. I don't think you can say 10.00 would be 9.45, I'd wager closer to 9.70, but neither of us will ever know. The old WR was 10.0 as well so he wasn't that that far ahead of the next best (or previous best guy). I wouldn't believe the old WR is also faster than Bolt so the 9.45 sounds wildly inaccurate to me.

[@ozzylogano6732]

Everyone Suffers so Suffer for what you Desire!

[@davidholt3641]

Why can't this play as embedded please allow it.

[@moniquegibson392]

Glad I found out about him! Incredible man was racing on the tracks amongst a bunch of racists whilst his brothers Malcolm X Muhammed Ali and Martin Luther King was fighting Racism! Black ppl will always overcome no matter what the circumstances

[@septimuspretorius250]

I would agree!!

[@kevinblanch]

bad lane draw and all still breaks world record, ONLY HUMAN to win GOLD MEDAL & SUPERBOWL RING ;;

[@alanmoskowitz5779]

Give him today's tracks&shoes who knows the record he might had set.

[@shyba2011]

Changed the game...!!!!! 🐕‍🦺🕶️🐕‍🦺

[@dexterbernard2701]

The fastest man ever created!

[@sydboski]

How?

[@trinihammer]

bob hayes is my second favorite 100m winner after hasely crawford

[@StanleyGreen-uh9lo]

Today he would run 9.4 or 9.3 100 meters

[@user-qy1ib1qb4r]

the Best

[@chrisgil3475]

Wondered if both Bob Hayes & Gale Sayers were on the same team ? That would be scary.

[@raytucker6568]

“Bullet Bob”

[@RonnieLeeTownsend]

How the hell does a guy who ran Hayes' times get stuck in lane one?

[@mikemichael6005]

Hayes didn't train year round like the tracksters of today. He played football.

[@paulfeder7741]

Song Worms

[@cy8685]

"he played football"..... meaning he trained year round. 🙄

[@MrTrack412]

@@cy8685 But his football coach was against him running track & field and did what he could to keep him away from it. He had to fight for his chances to compete and you must compete to get better.

[@cy8685]

@@MrTrack412 .... which has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said. He *WAS* competing year round - either in track or in football - sprinting, doing strength training, and racing guys on the football field or track.

[@benthekeeshond545]

@@cy8685 You are equating football with 100m sprint. Then the NFL must have produced some very fast runners and should be able to win the 100m gold easy. Why are there no professional football players competing for the 100m?

[@AHC63]

The Bullet.

[@raqueldizon9705]

Why did he get lane 1 when he won his semifinal? That's not fair.

[@henrybrowne7248]

They did it differently back then. Lane draws were assigned randomly.

[@joegarza9505]

And that's on cinder

[@kenyongray2615]

Bullet Boy s/b Bullet Bob.

[@franklinjmoultriesr5222]

He ran 8.86 to won the 4X100 relay

[@5va]

For real??

[@MrHuPow]

@@5va on dirt. The fastest today is 8.65 on mondo by Usain Bolt. Very comparable.

[@cy8685]

That's a tough fall, but still not as great a fall as OJ.

[@benthekeeshond545]

OJ is an animal and too stupid to be compared with the Great Bob Hayes. OJ is a murderer. Our wealth-based legal system served him well but he still landed himself into jail.

[@emjay2fly]

3:07 wats wrong with that man lips

[@andrewburke4725]

It seems he would be running against the wind on that day.

[@samsonmaximus2951]

come on, the guy did well for himself and the usa. leave it at that. why bring up what he did wrong. nobody's perfect.

[@cy8685]

🙄 What a moronic statement. 🙄

[@capriomrowkicz1751]

Faster Man every lived on this world?

[@brucedufelmeier8718]

Bob was just 21 and never ran again. Track historians convert his 10.0 under 1964 conditions to 9.45 under modern conditions. His 1964 4x100 meter anchor leg at 8.6 is STILL the fastest any human being has ever run. Most importantly he was drug free 100%. There is no doubt he was fastest human being ever. Armin Hary May be the second fastest. He was first to run 10.00, in 1960. He still is the fastest starter ever. He consistently started faster than even allowed today. He was 6ft 156lb. Lol. He looked like a1500 meter runner. These guys were unbelievable. Cinder track, no aerodynamic clothing, no PEDs, no money, short careers. Jesse Owens, Bobby Morrow, Dave Sime and others would all have been sub 9.9 sprinters when converted to modern conditions. Look at separation Bullet Bob had in 100 meters final and his freakish relay leg

[@veridicusmaximus6010]

Which historians? All the guys you mention were great but Hayes would never do a 9.45. His 10.0 was electronically 10.06. They used a .05 second delay in order to, badly approximate, a hand time. Then they rounded down to the nearest tenth. So, the original time read 10.01, with the delay, round that down to 10.00 and that is how they got his 10.0. The three hand watches read 10.0, 9.9, 9.9 but they were not official for WR purposes in this race. The 10.06 is by adding back in .05 for the 10.01. For modern track you add about 1.5% difference. Which in this case is about .16 - so that would bring you to 9.90. Even if you add another .10 for improvement and other things - that gives you 9.80 at best. You got to remember hand times are off by anywhere from .05 to.40 seconds depending on the timer's experience.

[@brucedufelmeier8718]

Veridicus Maximus Let Bob run in lane 4, on the fastest surface ever constructed, with the best shoes ever made, train with the latest methods in weight training, plyometrics, video breakdown etc for his career, which would have lasted until 28 instead of 21and throw in all the modern money for motivation. Hayes ran 9.91 in the qualifying with a disqualifying wind barely over the 2.0. He ran in borrowed shoes, in lane one (chewed up by the preceding steeplechase)on a cinder track. There is a difference of opinion on how much faster you run a 100m on today’s synthetic tracks versus cinder. The estimates vary from 0.2 to 0.5. Let’s assume 0.2. But take the chewed up track in lane one. You have to go to 0.3 at least. That lowers his time to 9.76 on track difference alone. If he had modern training, supplements, and 6-10 more years to train and mature motivated by legal professionalism (not to mention PED’s which are rampant in today’s sprinters), is it really hard to imagine him being 0.1 faster than Bolt? Obviously there is no guarantee but he was so dominant with track as a second sport. He never used weights, no modern training, a very short career ( a couple of college track seasons), no long range training plans. Basically just ran for fun during the spring.

[@veridicusmaximus6010]

@@brucedufelmeier8718 Personally, I don't much buy the chewed up track hypothesis. I don't think lane four would make much difference. The guy was a big muscular guy because he did train for football which incorporated sprints in their training. All these little things like shoes and stuff really add little more to the results. Like I said another .1 for these things bring him to a 9.80 in my opinion. I'm not sure where you got the idea that Mondo tracks add up to .5 over 100m?

[@brucedufelmeier8718]

Veridicus Maximus the fastest present tracks vs the slowest cinder tracks. The inside lane chewed up was serious enough for the US officials to protest the lane assignments which were drawn for instead of assigned by time from semifinals as they are today. They give the middle lanes via merit today for a reason. Bolt was running for the national team from the time he was 15. He received the best in training for 8 years before running his 9.58 at age 23. In my opinion he also had help, illegal help. He went from 10.03 at 21 to 9.69 one year later. Victor Conte and Carl Lewis, among others, say they have little doubt he didn’t make that progress naturally. He wasn’t a raw talent at 21. He had been receiving world class training for at least 6 years. You might be right about 9.8 although I think you aren’t giving any allowance for modern training and a very abbreviated career which was not even his primary athletic interest. In today’s world with full emphasis on track, modern training, monetary motivation, fast tracks and shoes I think he does close to 9.70 clean. I don’t think sprinters are clean today. I was just speculating that if Bolt did 9.56 Hayes could do a 0.1 better given the exact circumstances. Bob Hayes was undefeated in 49 sprints of varying distances of 60yds, 60meters, 100 yds and 100 meters. He was, unlike Bolt, a diamond in the rough. He won in Tokyo by 4 meters. His 4 by 1 anchor leg is considered to be the fastest a human being had ever run given the conditions. His time was caught at 8.6 (certainly not a reliable time as it was a relay leg and hand timed). At Hayes age of 21, Bolt’s best time was 10.03 with 6 years of world class training already in his past. Bob ran 10.06 on cinders, in borrowed shoes, from a torn up lane 1. No weight training. No supplements for recovery like Creatine, BCAA’s etc, no PEDs, no sophisticated analysis and training. I just believe he was and still is the worlds fastest human, all things being equal. Anyway thanks for your comments. You made a strong, well reasoned case. I’m certainly bias, as Bob was one of my idols. Willie Mays is better than Barry Bonds and Sandy Koufax is better than Clayton Kershaw. Lol

[@MrHuPow]

@@brucedufelmeier8718 wrt Bolt the flaw in your hypothesis though is that at 21 Bolt was not training for 100m distance. He was a 200m/400m athlete . He had set the World Jnr 200m record of 19.93 at age 17. He only seriously started training for the 100m the following year after winning a bet with his coach.

[@morrisparrish76]

Then WTF ain’t he #1 on the nfl fastest man list & WTF is OJ Simpson not on that list?

[@steviesly7908]

DRUGS AND ALCOHOL WILL BRING YOU DOWN BIG TIME) ONE MINUTE YOU OR ON TOP OF THE WORLD) THEN THE BOTTOM FALLS OUT) FAME MONEY IS A BAD COMBINATION WHEN YOU DO THE WRONG THING) JESSIE OWENS AND BOB HAYES TWO OF THE BADDEST BROTHERS TWO LACE UP SOME TRACK SHOES) 3)24)23).

[@anwaranfield1324]

No, he may have been faster. he ran 9.6 in 100 meters in high school...........9.1 seconds in 100? that's faster than anyone ever so add .34 to each yard to get meters.

[@richardgallimore5976]

10.6 in 100m in High School*. 9.1 in 100 yards which is around 10.1-10.2 100m.

[@jrnumex9286]

too bad for hayes after american football some lame drug crap as he could of had it made retro aoperanaces everywhere

[@scottroberts4478]

He was the greatest sprinter of all time and a good person.

[@jamraak]

A typical American argument. Bolt used to run on a dirt track, then a grass track. Bolt prominebce first came to highlight by winning a 40 metre race on a dirt track. Bolt first love was cricket (if you know what cricket is), while playing cricket his coach advise him to take up tracks. Bolt was a cricketer first and a 400 metre runner next, then came sprinting. Check you facts first and stop making crass comments. Why can you just accept that Jamaica has a good crop of sprinter at present.

[@michaelfederer6121]

The difference being that Hayes was competing in both sports at the same time while preparing for the Olympics. And it was only after winning the American trials and qualifying for Tokyo that he focused solely on track-and-field, and only when President Johnson intervened with the Amercian Football coach who wasn't very keen to allow Hayes time to train sprinting exclusively. Bolt never did two sports at the same time in the period leading up to an Olympics. You say Bolt used to run on cinder tracks, but we do not have any times to compare to those of Bolt, even at high school level.

[@otisjones6533]

jamraak

[@brucedufelmeier8718]

jamraak but Usain ran his races on the fastest tracks ever made, in lane 4 or 5, in the best shoes ever made, with the latest training and running well into his prime. Hayes ran in lane one (chewed up from the preceding steeple chase), in borrowed shoes, without the training or ever running again after the ‘64 Olympics when he was only 21. There is no guarantee Hayes could beat Bolt but let him run on today’s fast tracks, in today’s shoes, with modern weight and plyometrics training and running for a lot of money for motivation into his late 20’s and it certainly would have been great to see them race.

[@benthekeeshond545]

jamraak, Your comment was 6 years ago. I hope you will see my comment though. I guess about 16 years ago, the Jamaica T&F team found a special formula for their sprinters. I am not sure Usain, like Powell and all other Jamaica sprinters, benefits from that formula or not. Practically, almost all Jamaica sprinters were on that thing. I am not pro-USA sprinters because all U.S. sprinters, not the GREAT Bob Hayes, are on something too. But somehow, Jamaica got a better formula than the high-tech U.S.A. If that was what you were referring to Jamaica had a good crop of sprinters.

[@MrHuPow]

@@benthekeeshond545 Jamaica began winning medals in sprints from way back in 1948 with Arthur Wint & Herb McKenley going 1st & 2nd at 400m. They did it again in 1952 with George Rhoden & McKenley going 1st & 2nd . McKenley also added a 2nd place in the 100m . He is the only athlete to make all 3 sprint finals at the Olys. JAM history in track began way before 16 years ago. In that famous 64 Oly sprint relay race JAM anchor received the baton 2nd and ended up a creditable 4th behind Hayes.

[@wilsonblauheuer6544]

Martin Glickman- jew, says Bob hayes was 'all smooth muscle' when he ran. Apparently mr Glickman has never had a single lesson in anatomy, and is unaware that 'smooth muscle' is what scientists call the muscles of the GI tract. The skeletal muscles are not 'smooth muscle. But, he's the jew announcer, so what he says goes.

[@daveconleyportfolio5192]

He was also a sprinter on the 1936 U.S. Olympic team. So obviously he knew a little more about running than you know about him.

[@dave18404]

he ran faster than you ever might think about running. he was one of the 2 jews replaced by Jesse Owens and Ralph Metcalfe at Berlin in 1936 because Avery Brundage caved in to the Nazis. Know whom you demean before writing

[@ashsol2657]

Wilson blauheuer, idiot, do you check if there a jew under your bed before you go to sleep?

[@nkel6111]

amazing that he claims to be broke...as others do-------and still has money for DRUGS. great he went to prison, this weak fool.

[@mstrunn]

@ N Kel Read his book and you'll find out; when you're in the limelight all kinds of people use you or want something, he wasn't a user, as i said read the book before commenting.

[@AyayronBalakay]

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