The Fastest Pace Thief Build for Open World PvE in Guild Wars 2 - Dual Pistols Deadeye

Double Pistols on a Deadeye creates a fast and mobile thief playstyle for Guild Wars 2 open world PvE. As opposed to the rifle which requires more ramp up time and to kneel, the unload ability allows you to move your character freely so you can kill quickly and be on your way.
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1:14 - Build
6:46 - Gameplay
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[@asilos9911]

Running this build since Wooden Potatoes explained it in one of his videos years ago. It is the most fun build for me in the game. And you explained the options really well. Nice work!

[@marcosfranco1815]

I'm always up for trying new builds, and although I can't finish the video now, I'll def watch it later, so far I've been liking it! thanks for sharing!

[@vishawashkumar5159]

TYSMMM I really love pistols on any character. I was really looking for something like this.

[@franciscoaltamira4151]

The best builds are those that are easy to understand and that provide great versatility in different scenarios and this one really fulfills the above

[@TaurineOcclusion]

Love this build. Super chill. Get to see big numbers when pressing a couple buttons. The same reason why I play melee inaros in warframe: press e and chill. Power fantasy dream. Some people just want to try hard all the time and spend hours getting the best parses on a stationary golem in some big pp measuring contest; others like to play frantic frogger with red circles on the ground. Me, I like run around, shoot stuff, red numbers, dopamine. Great for mindless relaxation after busting my ass at work. Haters gonna hate.

[@hurrricane]

i stopped reading at "i play melee inaros", because inaros mains opinion doesn't matter

[@BrianCheng24]

I feel the same. The simpler the better.

[@balditohashshashin2058]

Nobody asks you but ok😂

[@jon091201]

Literally was looking for a build like this

[@myselfme767]

I love the gameplay!

[@JJ-kp3xe]

Having fun running Labs with this. Thanks.

[@IceCommander1111]

And my favorite P/P is BACK!!! TY!

[@Theuubestofbuus]

Looks like it'll be a great build with a slight modification for the upcoming holiday event deadly aim might be really nice for the labyrinth

[@matthewshelton9573]

Man you make that look so easy theres no way I would have ever pulled that off

[@younggarrett93]

I've been using this build since deadeye came out in pve. I like using Deadly Aim so that the bullets pierce that with Sigil of fire allows me to kill big groups of enemies all at once while getting a bunch healing as well thanks to the healing signet.

[@gangrel1234]

Builds are back ❤🎉

[@FesterrotGaming]

is it wrong that my favorite part of your video is when the diablo 2 music starts to play, i instantly knew when it started to play. I love diablo 2 lol

[@Rap-gq1fy]

this was my build a few years back when i was dust farming to earn gold for my legendary weapon. Would hundred percent recommend.

[@Howluffu]

I love it!!! Now I can run my demon hunter idea in this game

[@TuitanBoger]

this one will be great for map completion

[@RicoZaid_]

This is so awesome! Any chance you can use a rifle instead of a bow? Or a staff? I would guess not optimal but I like themes 😊

[@213fenix]

at the start i was curious how it'd hold in fractals, turns out I didnt have to wonder for long thank you for showcasing that environment as well

[@blubbblubber4342]

Mind that this build is very self sufficient but falls off severely in comparison to other DPS builds alongside supports like you usually have in group content. Especially in Fractals, where cleave and burst are very valuable.

[@Vallun]

yes i hope he didnt assume soloing a fractal boss would be comparable to holding a dps role in a 5 man comp@@blubbblubber4342

[@selenang2006]

Thanks for the vid! Juz going thru some of the comments here really makes my eyes roll. All the zero contribution but know it all smartie pants, akin to going to a shooting range and telling the instructors there on what gun they should be using instead lmao.

[@lovejaypo]

Simple and I love it! Even better with 2 crossbows!

[@rabbit4400]

just got a reason to get the skin :P

[@HexCodeTeam]

@@rabbit4400 skin name ?

[@rabbit4400]

@@HexCodeTeam don't know, ebonhawke crossbow something i think. You can check the wiki

[@TheBlarg113]

Another pewpew enjoyer joins us.

[@Interlag0s]

dual pistols = dual poggies! hopefully harb gets offhand pistol someday

[@changshaaawang1707]

VALLUN I FKN LOVE U GENIUS BUILD THX BROSKI

[@diargoa7942]

New player here and already enjoying the pew-pew playstyle. Then i found this build video, i'm so lucky lol

[@feniu10]

Wooden Potatoes had a similar build. Payback is fun if you run signets and thieves guild. You basically have thieves tanking for you permanently

[@BlazingFaith1945]

I remember that!

[@Cassadia-bx7nd]

sadly it only work in place with alot of mini mob that die fast

[@RicoZaid_]

I love signet builds, much easier. Is it just full signets?

[@BlazingFaith1945]

@@RicoZaid_ no

[@feniu10]

@@RicoZaid_ you can run full signets and just spam thieves guild. Or keep a shadowstep for porting around

[@carnifex2005]

Thanks Vallun! Do you have a link of what your keybinds / mousebinds are? I currently don't use a dedicated strafing key (I have all my skills on my keyboard so I just wanted to see how you set it up.

[@Vallun]

i have a settings video but i use A and D to strafe

[@attinger117]

Honestly I think this solo demonstration has a lot more to do with your experience of the fight than the build itself.

[@Vallun]

ok name a situation that i should better test it on

[@attinger117]

@@Vallun It’s not about the situation so much as the build. Power thief is probably one of the worst in the game for soloing tough champs/legendary foes or large groups of tough veterans/elites. This build has almost no sustain at all, and no damage mitigation either, you are just very familiar with the fight as you have been soloing it for years so you are able to dodge everything that needs to be dodged and anticipate everything. I would not recommend this build to new players, lesser skilled players, players with lag, players who are going through content for the first time, etc.

[@Vallun]

I mean, no one is soloing fractals its just not a good idea. I'm only doing it because that's what I like to do. For more open world content it's great though and the need for sustain is just not there in that case anyway. So unless you're saying this build isn't good at soloing bosses, I can't see how it would be bad for new players. It's not the best boss killer for sure but are we playing for best or for fun? @@attinger117

[@Theuubestofbuus]

Nice

[@mugiwarafan5073]

HOLYcow i just found my new main

[@seupyrassic3144]

how hard would this be for factral and strikes ?

[@felixpohlmann866]

I love pistol/pistol on thief. Thief is my main class. Would be awesome if they would buff pistol/pistol in PvE. Still dreaming of a good dps build for fractals, raids and strikes

[@jonbert]

I just started playing and after picking/reading about thief, I'm worried about wasting my time due to the consensus thieves are not viable in endgame pve and are niche in pvp. Do you think that I should reroll or is it worth investing in thief?

[@felixpohlmann866]

@@jonbert continue with Thief. Specter (the specialization) is one of the biggest PvE-Endgame-Carry Builds.

[@armedpoop]

@@jonbert Deadeye's mechanics are counter intuitive to pve end game (well mainly just thief rifle) but like others have said, specter is godlike in pve. Daredevil isn't too bad either.

[@boschmitch]

this is the build that gave me a carpal tunnel :D I call it the "Lara croft" build

[@konstlivetmusik]

How do you get the Harbinger's Pistols ?

[@elaxel1469]

After the Eclipse buff, the roamer druid for wvw takes another dimension. It would be interesting if you touch this topic, since there's only a build in metabattel but no video or guide about how to use it.

[@Vallun]

why not check guildjen.com instead of metabattle then? since theres always a video guide and build there

[@rstollenwerk]

You can just set your auto attack to unload!

[@Cassadia-bx7nd]

.... thank for remind me you can set auto-attack to other slot T.T

[@vilacvuong5779]

Hay Vallum, nice job on the theif pp build. Is this build also viable on raids even though it's max it 10K dps? I really enjoy playing theif in pve but, raids I normally run my willbender.

[@handsomest_robot]

You would be better off running dagger/dagger or rifle variants. This is more explicitly an open world build. If you're a selfish dps as thief is, you really ought to bring more to the group than a paltry 10-15k dps. It also loses the point in running around as raid groups want you in close to get boons and healing.

[@vilacvuong5779]

@@handsomest_robot Ahhh okay, I will try the dagger/dagger variant and see how it goes in raids.

[@merckoff8066]

Can this build work with core thief? I’m new

[@Psoewish]

I’ve been running a very similar build for a few years, but mine uses permanent thieves guild instead lol.

[@Darkz.-]

that san andreas theme

[@bosunbones.8815]

I mean you're not wrong. I just found twin pistol thief kind of one dimentional and i move on pretty quickly. But if i just want pew pew memes, well it's a no brainer! 😊

[@duncanrobertson6472]

The best source for fun an' defective builds 1:07

[@Vallun]

you right, I forgot the apostrophe

[@trlavalley9909]

1. Thankyou, I really prefer P/P to D/D but my Thief right now is just core, not asking you to do a whole other video, but if you can maybe link to P/P core build for working up to this would be cool. TYVM. BB

[@Toki1908]

I dont think the relic of speed is working on your clip, or is it? I see no relic icon on top of the skill bar.

[@Vallun]

i dont think all relics show up on the ui

[@irsyadasyrafmohamad9784]

all you gotta do is follow the damn train,deadeye haha lol

[@craftycraff7938]

Is PvE Reaper still good? Seems to have fallen off.

[@Silent002]

I main power Reaper for open-world content, and I feel it's never been better in the past couple years I've been using it. I've found I can clear anything I come across, including most champ mobs (aside from T3 rift bosses, they're still a little too much).

[@smokeydabeecharlescoleman8365]

How would you adjust for wvw ?

[@Vallun]

there's a pistol pistol build for WvW on guildjen.com use that

[@samsoulee]

I wonder if you could use a similar build in pvp ?

[@feniu10]

PP thief is a bit of a meme. If your enemy can survive the initial burst, you're very easily killed

[@Survivalist5574]

yea its kinda fun until someone reflects and you kill yourself in 2 seconds heh one trait gives you piercing pistol shots and can really burst down zergs but you gotta get real lucky.

[@andersflem9628]

I like the pew pew. Butni feel like mesmer virtuoso have better burst with pistol 4 and unleashing daggers at the same time. Delets people from 1200 range.

[@Vallun]

you might be right, but some people don't like the color purple

[@cosminmocanu5254]

i had a similar build when i got into gw2 creating a thief as my main/first character. The problem is, once u try other classes you can tell how boring and brain dead this class is and u just cant go back, many other classes just feel better in terms of rotation, animations etc, at least that was the case for me

[@Vallun]

Saying thief is braindead because its only a couple buttons just means you didnt understand thief. That's fine if you like pressing tons of buttons back to back but it just means thief isnt for you.

[@cosminmocanu5254]

@@Vallun i didnt mean brain dead as in term of how hard/easy is to play. One example i have is for daredevil doing more damage if u have less dodges which in my opinion is just weird. The whole selling point of the specialisation was "You get an extra dodge" but surprise, u cant make use of it cuz if u wanna do decent dps u have to constantly burn it out which defeats the purpose of a dodge. And for deadeye, this might be just a ME thing but I've had a P/P open world build and while it was fast to go through content it became also boring super quick cuz ur main damage is based on the mark and unload which can work if u wanna breeze through content just to get it done but in terms of enjoyment i think its on the other end

[@3renegade3]

I love that the skill is in positioning and timing over learning a 3 page rotation.

[@jamiewalker6296]

@@Vallun I kinda get what he is saying. I dont think the class is brain dead, but as far as skills and rotations its is much simplify compared to others. The double edge sword of the thief is that it lacks a rotation and is more of a priority system as to what skills to use, unfortunately that means spamming the most damaging skills you have. In pve that just makes the thief simple. I think alot of the complexity of thieve also comes from the interplay of the skills and reactionary game play, which is really not needed in most pve cases at all. For example scorpion wire, shadow portal and seal area will almost never have a place in pve. For thief it just feels like your using less of the class compared to other classes, mark, unload, unload, mark, unload, unload. Other classes force you to use more skills because your best skill is on CD. Look at lord hizens latest builds for any class and compare that to thief deadeye. Mark, deathblossom x3, cloak and dagger> back stab, repeat. Dont get me wrong, i love the thief, been shifting into my main for the better part of 400 hours lol, but the class is simple to know, harder to time correctly.

[@Theuubestofbuus]

​​​@@Vallunwell said. Thief mains know that it's all about positioning and combinations. Vallun has years of content talking about this in every game mode. Timing is everything, not everyone considers that quality content and for those rotation and standing in one spot is good enough for them, That's okay. Thief isn't for everyone, but calling it brain dead in any entirety just shows a lack of understanding of the concept of thief, which is okay. Again, not everyone understands the full capability of thief and the diverse specializations or knows how to utilize them appropriately.

[@NekkoNubcakes]

this is what i tell everyone everytime they say its not fun to be thief on pve

[@Buran01]

The build is fun and fast vs some kind of foes but weak against others. For example: if you are cleansing Drizzlewood where most of foes are charr veterans with large amounts of HP and plenty of cc skills it will take you plenty of time to kill a squad and crowds will block your main target while running around and you'lll be cced sometimes. You definitely will kill single targets faster than a Firebrand, but a Firebrand will cc and burn to ashes a squad in matter of seconds. The problem is that some professions and specs have builds that work well in any circumstance, whereas others do require a respec/regear to perform decently in specific task.

[@NekkoNubcakes]

@@Buran01 u can tweak it a bit...if its multiple foes then spec to crit strikes where pistol pierces..also u can use the de trait that gives u more malice to give u all the boons at mst times. CC wise u already have a lot of break stuns, mobility like he said is key.

[@xralchemist]

Wow lol you still play this game? Cool

[@bushy9780]

Alucard from Hellsing

[@TGregers]

What's the DPS in this build? (on golem)

[@MoistYoghurt]

This looks fun but I can't dodge or position correctly for my life

[@frosttoxic938]

I need WvW builds

[@Vallun]

then go to guildjen.com

[@SuperNekoTin]

hmm strange with rifle, i kill with just a [Mark] +"Dubble tap" every regular mob in open world, i don't know why you need so much defancive stats and traits when you mob farm. and youre combos are bad try this combo with rifle -> F1, 2, 2, 3, F2 (stealth), 1. < put on full barserk when PVEing and take "deadly Art" "Mug". no need to sit when farming mobs in open world lol☺

[@Vallun]

i'm sure there are just as many people saying the opposite on my rifle deadeye video :D

[@tubetrollin]

@@Vallun awesome video as always vallun! serious question... why does it seem like you and jen get so much grief on youtube? did you piss off the gw2 illuminati or something? you two contribute so much to the community and seem to get a disproportionate amount of bullshit from people. i'm genuinely curious what the deal is. ❤

[@Vallun]

@@tubetrollin it isnt a disproportionate amount, thats just the internet for you. Unfortunately we just have to handle it. Also youtube commenters are notoriously lacking in consequence for what they type

[@embreis2257]

@@Vallun for years now, I love what you do in GW and I enjoyed your BG3 videos. 👍cranky people tend to vent publicly while all happy viewers might do is pressing the 'like' button

[@RicoZaid_]

So then double pistol and rifle build will work?

[@grimonce]

Simple, build but 8k solo dps isn't all that appealing.Then again as long as you get it done it shouldn't matter that much... :)

[@Vallun]

what build would do more damage in that scenario

[@lautaropiatti]

I see pewpew I hit like

[@bolt6572]

old metabattle build really

[@Vallun]

does metabattle have video demonstrations? XD

[@Sergeydk]

pro game :) i'm noooob :)

[@YouTubeChillZone]

If there is any condi DMG you get screwed on this build plus every new player who takes this build to fractals after this video will have a collision with reality when he gets kicked for 10 k DPS 😂🤟

[@Vallun]

whatchu mean? this build has plenty of cleanse and its labeled as open world, if they take an open world build into fractals that isn't my fault, they may as well have done the same with a pvp build i cover lmao

[@YouTubeChillZone]

Of course it's not your fault, but you showed fractals as an example and there will be a few people who cry later when you tell them in the game that DPS is low. Just writing the obvious 😂

[@aeroblizz1987]

Sounds boring ez mode

[@Vallun]

ele builds can be found on aisle 3

[@aeroblizz1987]

@@Vallun haha

[@omgabaddon]

LMAO when you finally have all the legendary armor pieces and you can finally start playing the game, making your own builds and stuff. I swear that's the part I hate most in GW2, but it's still better than what other MMOs do.

[@didoma73]

Unique but boring single button build

[@Vallun]

isnt that all thief builds in pve in a nutshell

[@didoma73]

@@Vallun even Daredevils?

[@kh0di]

you just dodge and press 2 lol@@didoma73

[@tediloveu4582]

No lo sé Rick... 🤔 creo que la hiedra acolmillada(vinetooth) o el saetasaurio de auric basin se la parten facilmente en 1v1

[@reidspencer]

bru.... who hurt you in WVW? you switched to PVE LMAO

[@Vallun]

you've been watching me long enough to know that I do both. Are you suffering from memory loss or should i rehash your old posts? The ones where you say i look malnourished...

[@reidspencer]

you do look like a malnourished geek IRL lol@@Vallun