The FASTEST Train in the UK? southeastern Javelin Review

[@1Tenor1]

I love these it’s so easy to get to ashford from st pancras

[@1292liam]

good review mate

[@trainsp0tter_lucas]

They call it the ‘fastest train’ bc it’s the highest speed limit in britain. The class 390 can also go 140mph. One class 390 has even gone 155+mph

[@onatics]

Was going to say.

[@onatics]

I am also going to say that the eurostar e320 is probably the fastest.

[@trainsp0tter_lucas]

@@onatics ye, fair play

[@DonaldScott910131]

I wish the class 390s could do their maximum speed to 140mph. Also all of the Hitachi trains which are flooding the British railway infrastructure can all do 140mph on electric. Unfortunately railways heritage infrastructure can't utilise the modern trains top speeds, so the train operators use the benefit of acceleration from the Hitachi trains

[@trainsp0tter_lucas]

@@DonaldScott910131 they need to mod the Hitachi units as well as the signalling system to reach 140mph. The 390s can already do it if they push

[@tobeytransport2802]

You can spend longer than an hour on these. From Birchington to London for example it is an hour and a half… but still not bad considering the train to Victoria takes 1 hour 45 minutes… and the high speed is only that slow because it is speed restricted, operating on the old lines, until ebbsfleet.

[@suou7938]

nice sceneries

[@Del-x6d]

Glad you enjoyed the trip, for commuters it is an absolute godsend, saves a lot of time compared with conventional trains, the Javelin is the fastest domestic train in the UK with a top permitted speed of 140mph, however the Eurostar Intercontinental train can travel at 185mph in the UK. Worth noting though that the Javelin is faster than the Eurostar for acceleration, mainly because the Eurostar has more coaches & therefore greater weight.

[@Andrewjg_89]

The Southeastern Highspeed Class 395 Javelin are such excellent trains that were manufactured by Hitachi. And are fast, smooth and reliable.

[@Bungle2010]

Not much legroom? They have tons of legroom. Far more than any other commuter train I've been on.

[@Travelog]

You’re right about the commuter aspect. I meant to compare it with your more typical high speed trains.

[@itstimefor...9492]

The railroad industry in the United States is very terrible. I lived in China before, and I can go anywhere in 3-4 hours.

[@nemile_]

What about the both Eurostars?

[@Travelog]

That’s why I called it the fastest train “exclusively within the UK!”

[@nemile_]

@@Travelog thanks!

[@butikimbo9595]

Freight trains use HS1 too.

[@butikimbo9595]

Such a shame there are no plans to connect the ongoing construction of the future HS2 with the already existing HS1, making it impossible to connect Eurostar services at least to the second largest capital of Britain, Birmingham. Therefore HS1 not be classed as a British High Speed line, as the main use is for International connections, although Javelin is a very useless "wanna be " concept of an High Speed service that years ago was on the table to be put out of HS1 metals.

[@DonaldScott910131]

Exactly! They should ensure all HS routes have their out interlinking network to get to any part of the country and extend the international aspect of the railway routes. Also it could allow other international railway routes to come into Britain. The government dropped the ball on this missed opportunity.

[@butikimbo9595]

Actually the Javelin is as fast as many other high speed trains on the British Rail Network, with the difference thah the services through the HS1 are much faster and free of traffic restrictions that are very common on conventional Intercity stretches of the British Network bytaking advantage of an 300km/h limit speed line whose main purpose is to link the capital London to the Channel Tunnel Rail Link at Dover.

[@Lucas-pe6fg]

it's not a high speed train

[@Travelog]

While there is no formal definition of HSR, the general cutoff is 200kph/124mph. The javelin does 140mph. Or do you have a different definition?

[@Lucas-pe6fg]

@@Travelog no, it's minimum 250kmh now and there is a formal definition