The Final 2 and The Tell All - The Bachelor Season 24 Week 10 Preview Breakdown

[@BachelorFantake]

I wonder if they'll bring back the security guards for the Women Tell All...

[@faithlee4572]

They have to

[@brandonbreuer6589]

I can't say anything because I read the spoilers. At least we all know that the actual end ending has not been spoiled, even if there are some strong theories based on the spoilers that we do have.

[@faithlee4572]

@@brandonbreuer6589 where did u see/read the true spoilers

[@brandonbreuer6589]

@@faithlee4572 Google Reality Steve, he's the one true source of Bachelor spoilers.

[@faithlee4572]

@@brandonbreuer6589 thank you, I'm just sick of this season

[@bLLUi15]

Honestly at this point I don't see any possible engagement ending in marriage. Hannah Ann is too young and has never even been in love before. Madison and Peter's values are not the same and that's not going to change radically enough to result in marriage. Victoria. Do I need to say it?

[@paigec5017]

Has Madison ever had a relationship before? We actually don't know. She's the same age as Hannah Ann, who has had a serious relationship before

[@bLLUi15]

Paige C also true, yet another reason I find it unlikely they'd get married

[@clalyrics441]

@@paigec5017 Yeah, Peter asked Hannah Ann about her past relationships but never Maddison (of course not).

[@jwho4273]

@@paigec5017 according to Reddit she once dated a Christian boy from Auburn. I'll try to find his name!

[@pwnerzach2pwnu]

This Hannah Anne is too young stuff has to stop. She’s the same age as Madison and doesn’t seem to be immature.

[@ninalou4629]

Peter's scar is a metaphor for how this season is going.. It just keeps getting worse every episode. Who the hell stitched him up looks like its getting infected too. 😂

[@sarahkelly3234]

The producers that screwed up his show.

[@nenamichelle]

Nina Lou you’re right! That scar is pretty bad. You would think they’d have taken him to a plastic surgeon.

[@clothingandfreedom]

Could’ve went across the lot to Dr. Avery.

[@ninalou4629]

@@sarahkelly3234 he screwed up plenty by himself too.

[@dani09eveline]

He seems like his hygiene sucks that’s why. His face is always greasy and he doesn’t know how to shave

[@lilsaam]

With how this season's gone I'm even more salty Mike wasn't the bachelor, oh what could've been...

[@MorganCPaige]

lil sam WE COULDA HAD A BAD BITCH

[@dancedance80]

Mike couldn't even accept an apology during Men Tell All last year. That really says something about his character, so his season may not have been good either.

[@melyssamizal4282]

@@dancedance80 let's get real, it was an insincere apology from LUKE P of all people. i'm sure if it was from someone else, he would accept it. don't attack his character when he was one of the few MVP'S.

[@dancedance80]

​@@melyssamizal4282 I still think how a person deals with conflict shows their character. If he accepted an apology from someone who seemed delusional, it speaks louder than acting immature and not accepting it and feeding into the drama. A mature person would have accepted an apology and moved on. I would have liked to see him be the bigger person.

[@melyssamizal4282]

@@dancedance80 ok i can see your point, i think mike is still mature. maybe if luke changed his actions to match with his apology, then it would be different. but he was still the same on the men tell all. i can't speak for mike, but it would be a different situation if luke p was more honest about everything. he was still heavily lying and was hypocritical. that's the vibe that i got from the men's tell all.

[@carrierobinson8803]

I think he gives Madison a rose before the ceremony (like he did with Kelsey) to reassure her and make a concrete move that makes her stay. It would then make sense why Victoria says 'this isn't fair...' or whatever, why there is only one rose, and why Madi doesn't show up to the ceremony. This would also add extra stress on HannahAnn (hence the crying). Plus it would explain why he says 'I dont know if I handled this week properly' etc.. Just my guess!

[@skylarkneller2616]

this actually makes so much sense

[@abcbabyyyyy]

Madi shows up, he gives her the rose (Hannah Ann gets the first rose), she pauses for a few seconds, then accepts it

[@laleluilu]

Anisha Weimer why does Hannah Ann always gets the first rose? Always? What is up with that? Shouldn’t that be a clear indicator of whom he fancies the most? It’s not random - it is always her first 🙈

[@abcbabyyyyy]

@@laleluilu here is how it works: he knows a head of time who he is going to pick (in this case Madi and Hannah Ann), he lets the producers know and they tell him the order of who to give the roses to for dramatic effect... think about it, if Madi got the first rose, then it would be obvious Hannah Ann gets the last one... but because Hannah Ann gets the first one, it leaves the audience hanging for a few seconds going "oh shit, who is getting the last rose since he may pick crazy Victoria again or he could pick virgin Madi?!" Make sense?

[@laleluilu]

Anisha Weimer ja, thank you 🙏🏻 it’s still a bit weird though that it always was her from day one impression rose. But I guess this is how the game works and those are somewhat playbook rules

[@SiennaLaine]

I heard on Reddit that Kelley wanted to leave early on but producers didn’t let her. I bet Madison WANTED to tell Peter about her saving herself early on but production didn’t let her until after the FS dates with the other girls.

[@ForeverFashionGirl21]

you can still just say it lol idk

[@jameskrys5286]

Same thing with the tie in the football game.

[@mariac.7959]

Madison communication skills are not the best, that's why she didn't tell Peter. How many times does she use "like" and "ummm" in a sentence? Lol...

[@sauerkraut3042]

I think Madison's ultimatum/whatever you want to call it is why they had all 3 in the same hotel room rather than separate like normal. Because then Madison would know they were both out all night

[@goosebump801]

Sauer Kraut Agreed - it definitely ups the pressure. On the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast this week, guest Chris Harrison explained that producers put all three together mostly to push Peter into making some actual decisions vs. (as CH put it) “just kicking the can down the road” [I think about Victoria F, though he didn’t say that, so it could be just my wishful thinking.) They didn’t want Madison’s dilemma/angst to come up only in Proposal Week, because the turmoil would lessen Peter’s chances for a happy engagement.

[@clalyrics441]

Seeing Victoria make it this far just grinds my gears

[@abc-mw3ln]

I think he just kept her around long enough to where he could sleep with her in the fantasy suits

[@briannasmith7746]

Jackie 123 I think Peter is genuinely taken by her. You’d be surprised how blind someone can be when in a relationship with a narcissist.

[@gdesiree29]

@@briannasmith7746 facts

[@clalyrics441]

@@briannasmith7746 Well said, she's extremely manipulative so I wouldn't be shocked to find out he genuinely wanted her there.

[@goosebump801]

brianna smith That’s pretty much what Chris Harrison said in his interview on this week’s Bachelor Happy Hour podcast

[@autumnlaudato]

Madison isn't in the wrong for expecting more from Peter. Peter isn't wrong for being a physically affectionate person and "testing the waters" with the other women before picking the one. It's just a matter of if they're right for each other, and it doesn't seem that they are.

[@bLLUi15]

Totally agree, no one's right or wrong but despite their connection they don't line up in a practical way

[@autumnlaudato]

@@bLLUi15 YES GIRL!

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

Its wrong to spring it on him so last minute. We all know he's a poon hound in nice guy clothing. He didn't suffer through Victoria F to NOT bang her.

[@MorganCPaige]

Autumn Laudato PREACH MAMA

[@Talierau3]

Cali Girl ^^^ this this this. It seems madison was nervous to tell peter, which doesn’t make it anymore right, but my heart goes out for her. They both clearly value intimacy, just express it differently and in totally opposite ways. meanwhile, peter kept victoria around just to fuck and dump. that’s so incredibly immature and rude to do to someone.

[@Beach-bh3cv]

I personal thinks barb crying is a big fake out and she’s saying like being your wife home to us and just pick one

[@stephaniegentryart]

lol that would be hilarious and highly possible

[@elle410]

Oh 100% that’s what it is

[@cozettem8226]

It's about Madison she's the only one they've known since date one.

[@TheCarlinCoop]

Oh that’s a good thought 💭

[@sakura360ify]

that’s what i’ve been thinking. we know his family is an emotional one, so i don’t think his mom is outright crying about madison

[@eastonmartin6073]

Peter just needs to go home at this point

[@jnorway7295]

.....to mom.

[@chalseoko]

You're not wrong

[@LovedByYou]

Yall are always soo critical of the bachelors. I like him better than Colton!!

[@eastonmartin6073]

LovedBy You Colton was a much better bachelor. He didn’t reward the drama

[@RG-hf4et]

@@jnorway7295 Yes, Peter needs to man up already!

[@powergirl0220]

The fact that Kelley wasn’t invited to The Women Tell All just eliminates every chance of a voice of reason during the Tell All

[@clalyrics441]

So true

[@WoutJanWesterhof]

Kelley wasn't invited? Man, I was really looking forward to seeing her during the Tell All

[@maikale5]

What ? Where did you hear this?

[@Valerie-dt6ho]

I read a theory in the comments that he ends up with Kelley that’s why she wasn’t invited

[@powergirl0220]

Maika Le Nick Viall said it on his episode 9 recap. Can’t quite remember the minute tho, his podcasts are an hour long

[@katy4523]

I still think that Peter is dumped by his final pick and that's why she's crying. Then maybe he sticks with the remaining girl and then dumps her when Barb encourages him to go after the girl that left him? Idk. I can't quite figure out the timing of everything, but I think Madi self eliminates still

[@imth3batman]

Katy C I hope Barb is encouraging him to go after Hannah Ann. They are so cute together! I can’t believe they had matching fuzzy socks for the fantasy suite! Cute!

[@iiFallenWish]

This theory makes the most sense

[@whitney883]

Katy C yes I think it’s Victoria she’s going to run away

[@marcelasanchezpmu]

Omg yes, He goes back and dumps HA thats who he's talking and apologizing to, because that's when he's back in America for sure.

[@katy4523]

@@marcelasanchezpmu he's also wearing the shirt from the People photoshoot so he's definitely back in America on this part

[@tylernichols3012]

Instead of saying that they got eliminated, you should say they got “chopped”. “Pack your knives, you’re going home”

[@loveyoutube1045]

At this point, I think we’re all emotionally drained..

[@MsDesiree39]

yep

[@dianemccloud5990]

Agreed.....

[@RG-hf4et]

Yes, I want this over with already!

[@nathanjoseph5449]

Yup

[@antoniacurtis8907]

I heard an conspiracy that he picks Kelley at the end, which is the reason she didn’t get invited to the “women tell all” also to point out that Kelley is the only woman from this season that the Weber’s ( Peter , his mom , dad , brother & sister in law ) all follow on IG. And that she was in L.A for her birthday and seems to always be in the same place as peter on Instagram. Also peter has said in interviews that he hasn’t heard the correct ending to his season yet , I mean we have guessed EVERYTHING .... Madison , Hannah Ann , Hannah B. , the producer or that he is single and you mean to tell me none of those guesses are right ?! So maybe it might be Kelley . Another thing to think about is the fact that when everybody was screaming Kelley for bachelorette the producers started going heavy on the bad edits to get that idea out of our heads. Why would they do that ? what’s so bad about having Kelley as a bachelorette? unless they know something we don’t 🤔 ...

[@magyar5615]

Now that I would really like to see happen!

[@samantharovai7323]

i like this, it's far out but i like it

[@laleluilu]

In some Interview in the past few days (Access? On Monday/Tuesday?) Peter apparently said that Kelley would be his best choice for bachelorette because of her honesty and no BS attitude. If he’d were to be dating her that statement wouldn’t carry itself well

[@letsdohairandmakeup]

Kelley probably went to LA for her birthday bc that weekend the women tell all was filmed and all of her bachelor friends were there so it would be easier to have everyone in the same place

[@elm457]

Wow this could be it!

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

Me talking about Tyler or Mike as the bachelor: "dont let them goooooo, bring them baaaaaack, bring them back to us"

[@dianemccloud5990]

@ Baaaaahhhhaaaaaa, it most likely would of been a different season and I would hope a lot of the drama would be cut out....

[@Beatbod]

Diane McCloud Tyler and Mike are more chill than Peter.

[@44daggers44]

Has anyone ever answered “No” to “Will you accept this rose?”, if it were to happen at the final three rose ceremony, wouldn’t that in effect, end the season?

[@laurenheath2521]

it's happened once on paradise

[@lucbordage7291]

yep. last season, no one wanted a rose from LukeS. Them' s the breaks.

[@gloriasullivan949]

Good point!! I haven't seen any clips on girls meeting his parents. Unless his mother crying is after she has met them. That would eliminate a lot that would have to happen before we get to Afr show. I'm liking this theory.

[@imth3batman]

Luc Bordage Everyone was sick of hearing about his Tequila company. Lol

[@bbhaspots8975]

@@gloriasullivan949 Maddie meet his mom night one

[@TheJazzy1980]

The Bachelor is my favorite comedy show

[@paigec5017]

Do we think the chris Harrison clip "there's something we just found out" is a fake out? Like the Colton ring box clip?

[@bLLUi15]

Maybe, but it was coupled with the clip of him laying down surrounded by producers

[@karterbanger386]

I saw an interview with Chris Harrison saying how hot it was there and how they should have been hydrating but weren't. Maybe one of the girls faints or needs to be taken to the hospital because of it.

[@dianemccloud5990]

@@bLLUi15 , maybe he found out Madison was returning, and had only been prepared to choose between Hannah and Victoria...because, if he does choose Madison, and even though all are consenting grown adults, that would be still be very foul for Hannah and Victoria.....

[@Buggirl1998]

@@dianemccloud5990 Not really. Hes suppose to choose his wife. Not settle

[@SiennaLaine]

Conspiracy: Chris Harrison tells peter they just found out they need to evacuate from the fires

[@katnisspeeta100]

if we have another season with no engagement i’m done i’m actually done ...

[@Blueeyesinthesky]

Ida Nariman it’s their fault for choosing shitty people for the show

[@pauladatz4450]

Ida Nariman Colton and Cassie changed the must propose rule and it was very mature of them to continue without making that commitment. They’ve been together since filming ended in November 2018 so I guess it’s working out for them!

[@ano898]

Paula Datz Juan Pablo also didn’t propose, not that he was a good bachelor.

[@frecklesandwine]

@@pauladatz4450 Wait wait, Nov 2018?? Are you sure? Is that how long ago his season was...? It feels more recent... Wasn't he the last Bachelor?

[@pauladatz4450]

Frecklesandwine believe it or not, yes!! He and Cassie posted anniversary photos back in November 2019. Hannah B.’s season was last spring.

[@chelsea.1234]

CONSPIRACY THEORY: Hannah Ann saying “I want to feel chosen” is from the F2 rose ceremony (notice it’s a voice over and we don’t see her say it in that shot from the F3 rose ceremony, meaning it could be from a different scene). Maybe Madi leaves on her own, leaving Hannah Ann as only one left and she doesn’t want to just be his last resort but to actually be *chosen*. Oh and I loved the shoutout to Roses and Rosé! That and your videos are the only things that have been getting me through this season 💖 (and every season tbh)

[@brightnight1372]

Chelsea N. Im soo impressed with Hanna A if she is the one who says she needs to feel like the chosen one. She is absolutely right, & very mature of her to stand up for her needs.. ♡

[@xojeaninexo]

The dress she's wearing totally disproves that theory though

[@chelsea.1234]

JeanineElizabeth omg i was right though

[@chelsea.1234]

Bright Night OMG WE GOT IT RIGHT ✨🌟

[@shumbles]

I don’t know if you’ve heard Nick Vialls theory from his most recent Bach podcast but I think he may be right that Hannah ann wins and they’re trying to make us think the previews are all about Madison

[@Talierau3]

Shelbs agreed. i’m mad about it 😂

[@shumbles]

talie same 😞

[@jessicas_realm]

I agree! Also jimmy Fallon guesses Hannah Ann and he’s been right the last like 8 seasons 😳

[@lfc1265]

Jessica Stivers isnt it Kimmel that guesses?

[@jessicas_realm]

lfc 126 yes I’m an idiot 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

[@kendrawheeler]

what if he’s apologizing to madi- ahead of time before the rose ceremony. and she accepts and he gives her a rose. and that’s why there is only one rose shown.

[@deboraht5079]

Kendra Wheeler -- oooh... I wondered why there was only one rose and two women when we need two women at the end. This makes sense!

[@kendrawheeler]

Deborah T me too. it popped in my head randomly!

[@RG-hf4et]

Or Chris announces Madison is not there and there wll only be one rose for the ceremony and Victoria goes home and Hannah A gets thd rose but he can say it is not the final rose yet.

[@anonymousanonymous-qx7mv]

@@deboraht5079 check the back pictures..there are 2 roses

[@zoommooz567]

I think Peter's hair in the tan shirt where is he walking away from the house looks way shorter than it has been all season. My guess is those two shots are from something that happens after the final rose.

[@OmahPetite]

Been waiting for this recap.. I’m already exhausted from this season.. can’t wait for it to be over

[@ezeclipz115]

I am kinda late but it makes sense that madison got the first date.Becasue in the group date they told them to write a story of their best or crazy sex day and Madison is a virgin.

[@tacobella99]

Damn I didn’t even think about that

[@ezeclipz115]

I thought about it like last episode

[@StacyMoscotti]

Gooooooid point

[@qutielove2208]

Wooooowwwww *Mind blown*🤯

[@queenhannahbrown]

It's not like anyone had to actually read anything though.

[@organicallyhannah]

Hannah ann wants to be bachelorette lol anytime she says anything about their relationship she’s shaking her head no while saying a positive. Her body language doesn’t align with what she’s saying. I feel like this could also be why she hasn’t went after Peter full force because it’s extremely risky that she could be picked

[@paigec5017]

I noticed that! If she's F2 and not F1 and they edited her like this, the producers are just cruel

[@victoriap.3394]

i could definitely see that happening though. if hannah ann doesn’t win, i think she would be the best fit for bachelorette because shes classy, well-spoken, unproblematic, gorgeous, and she’s not saving herself for marriage. i feel like it would be kind of hard to have a bachelorette who’s saving themselves for marriage because what would they do during fantasy suites, yk? but to go with that theory, maybe she’s putting on this “perfect” persona so that she can be bachelorette??

[@organicallyhannah]

victoria p. Honestly I think she’s too pretty for bachelorette. She ticks some boxes but notice how they always go for a more relatable looking lead. People are watching with their partners and husbands and I feel like Hannah Ann would make views plunge based on that [big] factor alone

[@julietteSoul]

organicallyhannah It is not her looks , other factors need to be there to be bachelorette.

[@ccrisc100]

@@victoriap.3394 Emily Maynard did not have sex in the fantasy suites and all was well.

[@jessicahernandez1782]

Not spoilers: When Peter is saying “sorry” and is in the beige shirt, you can assume he’s back in the states by the look and feel of the location! In addition his scare looks healed or at least more so from the fantasy suite episode.....so I’m thinking he doesn’t pick anyone at the final rose 🌹 and has to think about it further! Weeks later he picks..where the “I’m sorry” comes from ...thoughts?

[@OmfgHiii]

the look of a plain wall? lol

[@RG-hf4et]

@Adriane Clark The house is an Air B&B rental. There is a Cosmopolitan article online that shows the house as a rental in the Los Angeles area.

[@RG-hf4et]

We all know Victoria P. is going home. Peter is back in the USA and I think he is telling Hannah A "I'm Sorry" because he can't stop thinking about Madison so he lets Hannah A. go.

[@jameskrys5286]

Hannah B. Need I say more?

[@RG-hf4et]

@@jameskrys5286 I WANT HANNAH B. !!!!!!! 💕💕💕

[@isabelgf3229]

I think Peters mom is definitely talking about Madison because she hasn’t met any of the other two girls the whole season 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@strawberrysierra]

Isabel GF if it is after final two she would have met both of the final two girls though

[@sakura360ify]

if madison self-eliminates, i just don’t think she would do that the day she were to meet his parents (again). after meeting the parents, the parents usually discuss who they think is best for their child.. so i think that’s what this is. i think she leaves at their final date

[@alirode4958]

Hannah B

[@sakura360ify]

Ali Rode y’all need to let that go lmaoooo hannah b is single 😕

[@amandahunt142]

My hubby and I think Peter's best fit is Hannah Ann buuuuut that he goes after Madi. Honestly not even sure why Madi came on this show when Peter's known for being the windmill dude!

[@TheSuperNats]

Exactly

[@bLLUi15]

DUDE THATS WHAT IVE BEEN THINKING!

[@henryjw15]

Amanda H. H. But aren’t they signed on before they know who the bachelor is?

[@bLLUi15]

henryjw15 they can back out though, Kelley's whole thing to start was that she stayed signed on when she found out it was Peter and met him

[@amandahunt142]

​@@henryjw15 I'm really not sure! There's been some statements I've heard in the past that've made me think they sign and then find out and others that make me think they announce who the next bachelor/bachelorette is and THEN audition. Heck, Idk. Does anyone know??

[@allierizzo5564]

I think peter it’s saying he’s grateful for him and Hannah Ann’s relationship because she so good to him, but then picks madison instead of her at the end

[@paigec5017]

Good theory! I'm rooting for her but that does seem like something he'd say to her

[@Talierau3]

i really hope this is true. i’m really rooting for her

[@kellyself1872]

I hope this is true

[@blue-phoenix115]

Peter’s mom way too cringe and dramatic 😖😩

[@kimiously]

I think Hannah Ann makes the most sense for him practically. But tbh I'm afraid he's going to end up with Madi cause she's technically the more 'challenging/emotional' option. I like them both and Peter isn't bad, I just think he's very emotionally driven, especially with this kind of decision...which isn't necessarily wise

[@Desireestewartx]

Kimberly Downing well honestly I don’t think it’s just because she’s the most challenging I think it’s because he has felt most connected with her all season- from starting off strong with the first one on one and then when there was all that drama- Maddy stayed clear of that. While most of the girls were complaining to Peter about each other, Maddy and Peter were always consumed in each other whenever they were together.

[@d1u4got]

Mom is telling Peter to go get his ex who ratted out Victoria F 😂

[@mackenzieheadrick4782]

DeAnna Valdez 😂😂

[@Desireestewartx]

Hahah this is the best 😂😂

[@d1u4got]

I’m a mommy of 4 so to get me that dramatic over a girl we have had some history, this girl bought mama some gifts! Not some one time encounters

[@CandyOgbu]

I’ve been waiting all day for this video to drop

[@AdiaLee-kv7vu]

When he says he’s so sorry he’s talking to either Victoria or Madison because you can see her hair on her shoulder!!!!!!!!

[@LindsayMartinn]

You've done it again Fantake.

[@AkSonya1010]

I LOVE how this season is spoiler-free and we are all having a blast guessing. I wish more seasons were like this.

[@phantomtheorist3388]

I am honestly really curious why they didn’t include Hanna Ann’s morning after, especially when a small clip was previously teased in past previews. Also someone else mentioned this and I agree, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Barb crying might be a fake out, and she just wants her son to pick the right women and is getting emotional.

[@morgank7560]

I have to mute it every time peters mom says “BriNg HeR hoME” ugh so annoying

[@KatyDoesTravel]

Same. I internally cringe every time I hear it.

[@justanotherhalloqueen]

Same. I can't imagine my own mom getting that worked up over a boyfriend she met one time... Like cheese and rice Barbara, you're at a 10 & I'ma need you to take it down to like a 3.

[@justanotherhalloqueen]

@@velvthamr1033 if I were single I'd apply!! 😂

[@RG-hf4et]

Oscar worthy . 🏆

[@daisymichellevlogs]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who’s feels that way!!

[@comments3179]

Worst possible scenario: Peter ends up with Madison (he’s a player and doesn’t deserve her) Best possible scenario: Peter ends up alone. (He’s not ready for monogamy)

[@racheloicilef2795]

Madi deserves more...i don't like.peter for madi🙄

[@joanneleyva4942]

I love how you say the word "out" with a Canadian accent.

[@samantharovai7323]

why was i concentrating on the love for this also? lmfao

[@joanneleyva4942]

@@samantharovai7323 I wait for the very end just to hear him say "bachelor fantake out"!

[@joanneleyva4942]

@YallCrazy They absolutely talk like that as well. Minnesota is so close to the Canadian border.

[@erinkoster8654]

YallCrazy depends on the part of the state. Rural areas have stronger accents here too.

[@limburgercheese1234]

oat

[@dreamsingh6624]

The house in the background at 9:55 was sleuthed out to be an Airbnb in LA

[@tessaedwards7605]

I was thinking it looked like the US and I definitely think stuff happens after the final rose ceremony.

[@letsdohairandmakeup]

oooo interesting

[@paigec5017]

I definitely thinks he breaks up with his f1

[@dreamsingh6624]

Paige C Yeah I think my theory atm is that Madison leaves and he proposes to Hannah Ann and then breaks it off with her to try to get back with Madison

[@paigec5017]

@@dreamsingh6624 Hehe my theory is the exact inverse. I just don't think Madison knows how to be in a romantic relationship considering her sheltered background. I wouldn't be surprised if it went either way though.

[@brantphillips9133]

Your breakdowns and analysis is so impressive. Bachelor Fantake does it again

[@rissriss3608]

Also in the clip where Victoria says “where is Maddie?” you can see two roses on the pedestal suggesting that Maddie shows up and the one rose clip is just after he’s already given one out

[@schmidtrp2]

Maybe he’s telling Madison that he’s so sorry that he let her down and hurt her and is trying to get her to stay.

[@RG-hf4et]

It's either that or he is telling Hannah A goodbye. It's either one!

[@stellashepherd844]

I remember when I could sleuth out that Desiree picked Chris just by watching all the previews. It wasn’t easy but I could do it. They don’t give us that anymore.

[@lindamckay1920]

I feel sad for people who want to find their soul mate but he had his chance to have his with Hanna b on the first night show preview he knew then they still loved each other

[@yolondasmith6415]

That was Hanana to chose. Not for Peter to chose Hanana. And when she returned it was too late with 24 new girls ( no offense) just saying. The ball was in her court back then. But I agree with you. I feel sad.

[@katwend3153]

I think he might give Madison a rose before the rose ceremony to reassure her, but then she won't show up to the rose ceremony anyways unannouced and Peter has some Kind of meltdown ... So he doesn't give out the second rose at all because it's only Madison and he can't loose her... Which means he won't have any girl around at the end of that Episode and in the finale Moms "Bring her Home" leads to Peter chasing after Madison ... 🤷

[@HAHA-kk2xy]

Well he shouldn't of have banged anyone 😂

[@khazana24]

Theory on the ending: Madison shows up last minute at the rose ceremony. Peter sends Victoria home. Madison reluctantly accepts the rose but soon realizes she really can’t go through with it (feeling like her trust has been broken). She goes home right before the final rose ceremony. Hanna Anne finds out and is super upset. She feels she’s been so strong throughout the process and has unconditionally supported Peter - but now has been put in a terrible situation of not knowing whether she was going to be Peter’s first choice. Suspecting it was going to be Madison and realizing that Peter now has no choice but to pick her is too much to bear. Rather than put herself through this, she also decides to leave. This maybe the twist that no one has been expecting. In the end, Peter is alone. He flies back to see his family for support. He’s confused but his mom tells him to get it together and “bring her home to us!” This could be her just talking in general about his future wife OR she’s specifically talking about Madison. He realizes that he can’t give up and will have to fight to get her back. He goes to see her profusely apologizing for screwing up. He tells her how much he loves / cares for her and knew it all along but was just stupid. She loves him back but she just can’t do it given their different values or she says she needs time to think. I this is where AFTR may begin - with Madison having had time to think and reflect on their relationship / future together. She will tell him yay or nay - and in general, we’ll find out whether they’re together or not (very likely because he looks exhausted and not so happy)! What do ya’ll think!? Possible?

[@wren3753]

i sure hope that peter grows a damn brain for the next two weeks but i doubt it

[@HOPE.TheresNoPlaceLikeHomeClub]

He's influenced by the wrong head🤷‍♀️

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

He needs brains and a backbone. He's like the scarecrow and cowardly lion in one.

[@ashleyperez3888]

Better not be another season without enegaement ugh lol

[@traviscorriher5087]

This is my first attempt at sleuthing, but it seems like the scene from 9:13-9:34 in your video occurs after the Final Rose. If you look at the final 3 rose ceremony, conversation with Barbara, and the final rose ceremony, his hair looks essentially the same. His hair then looks shorter during the 9:13-9:34 (and 9:53-9:57) parts of your video. His sideburns are shorter, and the back of his hair is more crisply rounded off. Peter is also wearing the same shirt during those two scenes. Obviously doesn't prove anything, but it does support some After The Final Rose funny business, probably while back in the States

[@Meshi-dz6le]

I believe that Peter sends Hannah Ann home because he wants to marry Madison. But as soon as he sends her home, he finds out that Madison left on her own because she couldn't handle everything. That's basically how it will end. But maybe a few weeks/months after, he tries to get to Madison, after talking to his mom once again (bring her baaack!) who encouraged him to do it. He invites her and tells her that he is incredibly sorry for everything and now they're dating.

[@calvinjacobsen7957]

Really for me how I took Mondays episode was Peter thought he could get away with sleeping with the other girls and then convince Madi to stay. Cause he is the worst

[@jeffreyrifkin7420]

As a fellow man, I agree. He wanted his cake (sex with 1or both women) and eat it too (Propose to Madi). That makes him a total D-Bag.

[@rubyred3580]

@@jeffreyrifkin7420 Madison is a grown woman and she can make her own decisions and so can Peter. She knew what she was signing up for

[@sandrag8621]

EXACTLY!

[@dinville7094]

I'm a female but look at it like..she never told him she was falling for him, she didn't tell him she was a virgin, and she is a spoiled daddy's girl that thought she could make demands and had a tantrum when it didn't go her way.

[@sandrag8621]

@@dinville7094 wrong....she was letting him know, if you really love me like you say you do, you will not sleep with these other women. Personally, I would not want a man who tells me he is in love with me then sleeps with another woman only to ask me to marry him two days later. She had EVERY right to lay all the cards on the table. As for her being a daddies girl.... It's a great thing.... would you have preferred he be absent from her life? AND, why would she have to tell him she's a virgin? It's her choice when she wants to invite him into that part of her life. Time to get your head checked.

[@purplehazee90]

Hannah Ann and Victoria looked so beautiful in the final rose ceremony.

[@vgamador]

These season was a mess

[@sarahkelly3234]

Only thing you take away from this is stress. No love, just Drama

[@Jessica-yd3ld]

Madison could not get past the fact that Peter slept with two (other) women only 6 days before his proposal (to Madison), so the only way to actually end up with Madison is that Peter did not propose but continued his relationship with Madison for long enough for them to overcome the fantasy suite "finasco." Then, there might be a proposal some time lol.

[@Wawatici]

I took a screen shot of the back of the two girls with "Where's Maddie?" When you zoom in there is clearly two if not three roses on that pedestal. Definitely more than one.

[@albagonzalez8686]

Wawatici (Aurora) me too and you are right. There is 2 roses on that pedestal and 2 women waiting !!!

[@CoffeeCupsTarot]

If the average age of the contestants isn't at least a few years older, I'm not watching next season. "Like. I can't. So done!" LOL

[@anam1446]

Elizabeth B I know. 25 or older. I doubt a 22 year old is ready for marriage I think they just want their 15 minutes of fame.

[@anotidaaa]

It’s weird because the average age of the contestants hasn’t changed since the show began. It’s still between 23-26. So I wonder if the girls are truly getting younger or if they just seem more immature than they used to

[@jnorway7295]

Exactly!!! The girls on this season were SO immature. Why waste our time on playing grown-up? Producers: you need to interview the contestants better & NOT bring in most of them who are younger than 25--then they're likely to have more wisdom, confidence, look the men in eye (unlike Victoria), & be less shallow. You'll get better ratings!!

[@em94glover]

Elizabeth B all the more reason for the “we’re looking for seniors...” 😂

[@allymakaylee7077]

U know what’s funny is Victoria is 26 and she’s the most immature out of all of them. Age is not a factor in knowing what you want. Everyone wants madi because she’s older when her and Hannah Ann are legitimately the exact same age. One has a baby face.. she can’t help that!

[@emilybraendel2091]

my friend said that she had a feeling victoria didn't actually sleep with him and that was why she was SO pressed when madison brought up her difficulties

[@brianstevens7241]

I like coming here and reading comments more than I like the show.

[@millies5505]

Peter sees how hard it has been with Victoria, but he just thinks this means they have a "challenging" relationship. No Peter it's just toxic

[@rubyred3580]

True, he conflates fighting and drama with passion. That's why he hated when Kelley used the word "fun." Like yeah marriage will be challenging sometimes but that doesn't mean it has to be hard all the time. It should be easy sometimes

[@thegoldenhost]

Whoa I just had a thought. What if at 9:14 he is saying sorry to Hannah Ann because he picks her in the end, but then really thinks about it and realizes he can’t be with her because he’s in love with Madison and not her? That or he has gone back to Madison who left the show right before the final rose ceremony, and is begging for her forgiveness. That’s really more likely I suppose. Regardless, it really looks like it is a scene after everything is all said and done.

[@JoannaT2]

"bring her home to us' stopppp i wonder if they made her act all dramatic like that or if shes just that annoying in real life.

[@Dauerglotzer123]

Think producers had her husband captive till they got the right take 😂

[@aliciacleeland2257]

I have a feeling it's not as much of a big deal as the previews are making it out to be and she could be talking about either the final 2.

[@tasbar7743]

I'll be glad when this season is over because all these theories are driving me nuts🤯🤯

[@superpurplemoon]

I think Lauren Zima's tweet is just a way of making fun of how Peter talks about everything including his relationships. Statements like "best date I've had in my entire life", "the most amazing person I've ever met." "Absolute best feeling in the world" etc. He does tend to be overly dramatic with his superlatives.

[@Paunchypeach]

Hannah and Madison! Now the real question is... Which Hannah 🤪

[@faithlee4572]

Hannah Brown is going on tour of DWTS she wouldn't be able to be there

[@RG-hf4et]

@@faithlee4572 Hanna B's shows are in California and 1 in AZ. She can take 2 hours off to meet up with Pilot Pete. Maybe he will fly to her show! ✈

[@ashleyperez3888]

Hannah b is doing her life forget about them lol

[@jennifermarielucu9697]

I think that he chooses to run after Maddie (Colton style). On the podcast 'Bachelor Happy Hour', Chris Harrison does confirm that Peter regrets his decisions on FS. Then again, he could just be saying that to throw us off...

[@ashmauldin6595]

my guess? honestly the single rose might indicate a normal rose ceremony but I don’t think that’s the case. Victoria saying “it’s unfair” may mean that there’s only one rose on the podium to begin with, meaning madison got the rose on the one on one. it’s a long shot, but my mind is on the fact that hannah ann crying and Victoria saying it’s unfair- and that makes me think that there’s one rose and one rose only at the ceremony. whatever happens during the fantasy suite between madison and peter gets resolved, peter immediately wants to give her a rose, and that’s what I think would happen next week. let me know your thoughts or if it didn’t make sense, j worded it kind of weird 😂

[@danielahaydee3716]

So I rewatched the season preview! And I realized that at the end of the preview Peter says I believe that love conquers all. And on last nights episode Madi gave a toast to saying something in the words of seeing/discovering if love really conquers all. So this really can tell that that’s who leaves and who peter wants to choose

[@webdar55]

I saw some sleuthing on another site. The scene where he is telling someone he's sorry from the bottom of his heart, and him then walking into a very nice house, that house is actually in California. It showed it as Mulholland Hwy Estates. So, whatever went down there was after they were done filming in Australia.

[@paigec5017]

That means he picks someone and it gets rough during one of their set up post finale meetings (i.e. arie and becca)

[@webdar55]

@@paigec5017 I don't think so, because if he had really picked someone at the final rose ceremony, Reality Steve would most likely know who it was, but he doesn't know how this season ends. I'm wondering if it has to do with whomever his Mom wants him to go after.

[@meredith1404]

Interesting thought on the "grateful... But" statement. I think that could have come from the three to two rose ceremony and he says this to the woman he eliminates.

[@folklorelover13]

I do read spoilers but I always throughly enjoy your analyses ☺️☺️ (Reality Steve doesn’t even know the ending for sure this season)

[@AbiNomac]

Oh wow with all the beautiful coastlines and beaches in Australia they have scenes in the bush.

[@giuliab2700]

I’m worried that this season will end up as rachel season: they only shows us his good chemestry with maddi even if he end up choosing hanna ann in the end. Same with rachel that was edited having good chemestry only with peter and not her actual pick. This is based on the fact that they didn’t really show us anything with hanna ann, the morning after, etc... i really don’t want to believe this and i’m hoping it’s an unconventional ending, hopefully with maddi in some way

[@annachristine4497]

Giulia B I didn’t even think about the parallels with Rachel’s season! That’s a great point.

[@aliciacleeland2257]

That stage Hannah & Victoria are standing on at the rose ceremony looks like where the final rose/proposal should be!

[@makayla2573]

i could be wrong but in the clip with the girl in the car being sent home, the silhouette kind of looks like Victoria to me bc of the hair. Hannah Ann's hair is styled more wavy with more texture and Victoria's is silky straight (Madison also seems to have thicker hair). i could be wrong though, that just stood out to me

[@xanderloosvelt6951]

When Peter says he’s so sorry I kind of see hair that looks like brown and long. Could this mean Madison is the no show and Peter chases after her

[@punktexas]

Notice Hannah Ann says she wants to "feel chosen" not that she wants to marry Peter.

[@TheLlovaa]

hearing Barb's soundbite honestly activates my fight or flight response now

[@NostalgiaCatholic]

Have A couple small pieces of sleuthing to offer. At 3:33-3:36 you can see the profile of the head of the girl riding away in the "depression-mobile" and the head is decidedly tall, oval, or pointed at the top (like Victoria F.'s) and not more squarish, flattish, level like the heads of the other two ladies. So it has to be Victoria F. who is riding away in that "depression-mobile." The other piece of sleuthing is that, while the close up of the rose on the stand shows only one, the distant shot (such as at 2:32 in) shows two, so this is a normal three-down-to-two rose ceremony coming up.

[@kiley9396]

6:17 Am I the only one who can’t stand the way Chris Harrison says “finale” lmao

[@aschmum]

Kylie A i cringed a little too lol. Finolly

[@jenniferagrusa3155]

Thx for all the info!! I think all your theories are spot on.

[@anam1446]

This season went by so fast

[@gdesiree29]

Good

[@beccasm6088]

not fast enough

[@qutielove2208]

I love how you and Lauren gave each other shoutouts!

[@georgiamakris7676]

I miss Hannah Brown. The more I watch this season the more I realize how great she was!

[@Bieberlova4eva98]

Uh oh now I’m wondering if Hannah Anne will be be batchelorette since she’s getting the squeaky clean good girl edit

[@nicholasmorales24]

I forgot how badly Hannah Ann cries. 😂😂

[@susanmcinally7228]

Peter's family loved Maddie, you could see it in their eyes at the vow renewal ceremony for his parents....I think thats what mom wants is him to chase after Maddie.....She's been my pick all along....

[@ERIC20]

Ughhhh just air all episodes in 1 day ABC!!! You're killing us!!!!

[@sportsupdatedude]

Forgot this season: HELLO?, hello? Did we get an casting call for bachelor seniors? Um YES.

[@kristenfader2088]

9:25 anyone else notice Peter has really small ears? No just me? Okay

[@susanpoynter3784]

You know what they say about the size of a guy's ears? If his ears were bigger, Hannah B would have picked him

[@tammywedding3123]

Why half way thru the show he started wearing the scruffy look instead of the clean shaving look

[@mombie4403]

Literally since I noticed his ears k cannot unsee it. The openings to his ears are so tiny like a pinhole. 🤣🤣

[@nicolebansal8559]

Lauren Zima commented on her tweet on her roses and rosé segment!!

[@dziendobre111]

I just got an idea. What I Madison shows up late to the rose ceremony. Peter gives her the first rose but she quits and leaves (with the rose) so there is only one left and the other two women remain. Hence the “I want to be here. I want to feel chosen” from Hannah.......

[@gdesiree29]

"Only two more weeks of the bachelor " Thank God!!

[@chezariethames6907]

"...they gone bro, they both gone!" I love your commentary!!!!!!!

[@emiliegirl1168]

I've been rooting for Hannah Ann since the beginning! I hope it's her in the end.

[@susanb598]

Noooooo

[@gdesiree29]

Ew no

[@RG-hf4et]

No, she is too snooty, imho.

[@kelseymoore8824]

Hannah Ann 🙏🏽

[@cocochannel3694]

Sorry but nooooo

[@queenofsheba8420]

I'm not sure if I'm imagining this or if it's a spoiler, but I remember a clip of preview of Peter saying he was sorry, as seen in this video, and him walking away (I'm assuming after him saying he was sorry). The "clue" or thought about this is this: the house/garage he is walking in front of looks like a west coast house more than an east coast house. Since Hannah Ann is from Arizona, I'd say it was her house. I'm not so good that I can venture a guess as to how the season is going to end, but I'd venture to say for some reason Peter ends up apologizing to Hannah (for what, I have no idea, I only watch the previews and episode breakdowns). I also that since Peter has already slept with her, Victoria is the next one to go. Hannah and Maddison stick around for the next round and that Peters parents are brought to Australia to spend some time with each girl and Peter on a different kind of one on one date. If his mom is talking about Maddi, it would be too obvious if she is the only they have met. So I think they meet Hannah, and it's actually Hannah Peter's mom is crying about, not Maddison. No spoilers, just speculation.

[@alizeeveneret6689]

OMG 😱😱😱😱😱💔😭💔

[@marinaspalate]

Hannah Ann is from Tennessee.

[@Call_me_Kelllz]

Lauren did say that the tone of the tweet was taken wrong. When she wrote THEN she meant like immediately as in RIGHT THEN AND THERE But... 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@iiFallenWish]

I feel like Madison definitely self eliminates at some point. I feel like everything points towards her self eliminating and Peter going to get her